WEBVTT - Jade Helm Update 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:04.320 From UFOs two, ghosts and government cover ups. History is 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:08.000 riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:15.360 learn the stuff they don't want you to now. Now, 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:20.239 bellow everyone, and welcome to the show. My name is Noel, Yes, 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:23.680 and I am Ben. We are as always joined in 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:29.040 spirit by our producer and co host Matt. Let's see 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:31.280 what's foul we call them today? I mean, I like 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:35.320 the alliteration of the madman, what about Matt, the militants, Frederick. 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:41.080 That's good, that's good, that's approca. So before we start 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:45.159 today's episode, Noel, I was thinking that we could we 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:47.760 could have a little bit of a tangential conversation. Sure, 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:50.559 okay with that course, all right. I'm fond of the tangent, 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:54.600 fond of the tangent. Yes, all right. So have you 0:00:54.720 --> 0:01:00.560 ever observed in real life a a widespread like a panic. 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:04.840 It's funny that you say that. You know, there's that 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:08.000 jam band called widespread Panic. Yeah, I don't know. I was. 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:11.560 I was fighting not to make a joke about it. 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:14.480 But it's gonna come out. It's fine, let it come. No, 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:18.680 I don't think so, you know, I mean nothing, um, 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:22.480 definitely no form of like mass hysteria, or any kind 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:24.720 of situation where I felt threatened or I felt like, 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:27.360 you know, things are out of hand. I mean, well, 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:29.400 actually now now now that now that I think about it, 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:31.679 I did go to a Creed concert um when I 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.760 was a kid, and I did feel like there was 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:37.480 some you know, that were on the edge of pandemonium, 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:40.760 really playing my my own prison. I mean, Creed exudes 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:42.800 a certain kind of energy that just gets into you 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:46.360 and makes you do crazy stuff. So that's the closest 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:49.320 situation that I can think of. And we've all been 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:53.440 in a similar situation, folks. You know, you've you've been 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:58.440 in a school or a building where fire alarm goes 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:02.720 off and you usually people proceed in an orderly manner 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:06.680 until they actually see the flames or shale the smoke. Uh. 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:10.360 Some of our listeners have been in riot situations, have 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:15.639 been in combat situations, have been in you know, on 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:21.160 the scene of tremendous catastrophes, right, And what we notice 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:27.239 often is that in today's day and age, it's easier 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:32.200 now than ever before for an event or rumors about 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:35.240 an event to spread across the world. It's so much easier. 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.960 You're just to click away from talking to someone on 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:41.520 the other side of the planet. So what we're looking 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:45.919 at today is something sort of related to these things. 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:51.960 We are coming back to update you on jade Helm fifteen. 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:54.720 So first I guess we have to say what what 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:58.600 is jade Helm fifteen. Well, a little background. Jade Helm 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:03.680 fifteen was a multi state military exercise that took place 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:08.960 from July fift September UM. So this was basically an 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:12.120 exercise and unconventional warfare, and then it evolved the US 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:16.440 Army Special Operations Command and the Joint Special Operations Command, 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.799 with other U S Armed Forces units also involved. It 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:24.600 happened in the following states in Texas, Arizona, Florida, Louisiana, Mississippi, 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:29.040 New Mexico, and Utah. Yeah, and naps of the exercise, 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:31.600 which you should check out if you're at all interested 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:34.840 in that. Maps of the exercise included areas of the 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:40.560 US like Colorado or California where there weren't any operations planned. 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:44.600 So here's what happens. The troops involved in the exercise 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:49.640 are playing on two different teams. They're either occupying forces 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:54.240 or resistance forces, and they're fighting each other and testing 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:59.880 out these techniques in sparsely populated areas near small towns, 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.760 and some of the troops in this these scenarios wore 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:08.400 civilian clothes and drove civilian vehicles. The exercise originally was 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:11.880 supposed to have the Creme de la Creme from four 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:15.400 military branches, but it was reduced along the way to 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:19.960 only include two hundred Special Operation Forces and three hundred 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:25.080 support personnel, with about seven hundred members of the Second 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:28.919 Airborne traveling to Texas to train for like a week 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:32.599 in August. And no, you remember that earlier in May, 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:36.040 we did an episode on jade Helm before it happened, right, 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:39.240 and we there was a lot of concern people were, 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:42.200 people were, let's say a little worried, and we read 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:45.680 a lot of strange stuff about it too. So today 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:49.120 we're going to talk about what actually happened during jade Helm. 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:51.000 If you want to hear some of the background, check 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:54.240 out our earlier podcast in May. Uh, and maybe we'll 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:59.520 talk a little bit about the social psychology behind widespread panic. Oh, 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:03.160 there's the joke. It's such a horrible joke. We mean 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:07.080 the phenomenon, not the band. The band's all right, though, 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:11.320 Do you ever listen to him. I'm gonna say, you know, 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:14.960 I U I had a couple of songs there, so 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:16.960 I would put on for writing music, just for like, 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:19.760 you know, the really instrumental stuff. I spent a lot 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:22.040 of time in Athens, and they came out of there 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:25.800 originally and they are pretty revered, but it was never 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.719 really my scene. Never really are seen a jam bandman, 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:33.400 A jam bandman. All right. I like that phrase, jam bandman, 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:36.600 fun desaver. Sure it is fun to say. All right, So, 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:42.240 speaking of amazing segues, Noel, let's talk about some of 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:44.960 those reports, some of those crazy things we heard, and 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:49.359 let's start with the alleged stuff. So the biggest, I 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:52.919 guess you can say shady thing that occurred was the 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:55.800 closure of Walmart stores. And this is actually, I mean, 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:59.440 before you know, doing the research for this UM, the 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.240 one detail that I really remember being playing up in 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:04.880 arms about. It's like, oh, what's happening. They're closing Walmart 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:08.800 and armagedon right right right? UM, So there was, you know, 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:12.080 these these closures of Walmart stores across the areas, and 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:16.960 believers in these this particular conspiracy, I suppose UM allowed 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:21.200 to the stores were closing to reopen as internment camps, 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:25.000 I suppose. So when when when did this happen? How 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:28.960 to go down? Walmart closed five stores in April, laying 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:33.520 off more than employees in California, Texas, Oklahoma, and Florida 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:38.360 due to ongoing plumbing issues. Yeah, that was the official explanation, 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:42.000 was that there were persistent plumbing issues, so they need 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.599 to close the stores for what six months to a 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.440 year or something. And some of the things that we 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:50.560 heard people saying, or that these stores were being closed 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:55.480 only to be reopened as warehouses or internment centers right 0:06:55.600 --> 0:07:00.040 to um to keep the local population. That was and 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:02.120 in step with the new world order. But we have 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:06.000 an update about six months later. Do we have an 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:11.080 official statement from Walmart? Uh? The official statement from Walmart 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:15.000 was that this was entirely unrelated and that it was 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:18.280 seriously just due to plumbing issues. A shame. But it 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:21.400 seems strange because we talked about this in a previous episode. 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:24.880 It seems strange that it will close so suddenly because 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:28.000 the employees had no idea. I mean, I I don't 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.160 think I've ever heard of a Walmart closing. I think 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:33.680 Walmarts are just infinite, you know. Yeah, it reminds me 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:38.440 of the There's this really interesting thing that leaf. It 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:41.239 might be FEMA that has it called the waffle House Index. 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:45.240 Have you heard of that? So it's a measure of disasters, 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:48.240 like the the degree of a disaster in an area 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:51.679 can be measured by how it affects the waffle houses 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:56.040 because they're the most likely things to remain open. So 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:59.600 there is a legit waffle house index for people who 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:03.000 are not from the South. I guess we shouldn't assume 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:06.840 that everyone knows about waffle house. How would we describe 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:11.320 waffle house? It's a dinner I guess, like a crappy 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:13.840 I mean, it's the name is pretty accurate. It's a 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:18.200 waffle house. This house certain waffles, certain a lot of waffles. Uh. 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:21.920 You have a jukebox with waffle house themed music on 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:25.280 it and in addition to your typical honky tonk kind 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:27.720 of you know, natsy kline things like that. And they're 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:31.280 all over they're all over the Southeast, and they're been 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:33.520 twenty four hours and they're open twenty four hours a day. 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:38.839 They rarely closed. They've been opened during um lizards, steering floods, 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:43.720 steering hurricanes. Uh, that is why. That's why there's this 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:46.240 waffle House index, which makes me wonder why we don't 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:49.439 have a Walmart index. You know, that seems like it 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:54.160 would be even a larger scale. They did close multiple stores, right, Yeah, 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:56.360 they closed five, and but they were not in the 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:59.240 same area where they know. They weren't in the same area, 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:02.880 They were in different eights. So how how could there 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:07.280 be unrelated plumbing issues at at stores in different states 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.040 at the same time they would need to close the 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:12.240 stores for all the same time. Great question, because some 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:14.920 other people who did not buy the official explanation would 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:19.440 be the employees of these stores, those over people, and 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:22.319 many of them believed that the stores were being closed, 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:27.080 particularly one in California, because the employees were organizing unionizing 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:31.760 essentially for better pay, better hours, more equity in the workplace. 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:35.160 And it's true that Walmart had been found guilty of 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:39.600 doing the same kind of retaliation closing in Canada earlier. 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:43.120 That does ring true. That sounds a little more likely. 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:46.880 But six months later Walmart reopened the stores and they 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:50.079 invited former employees back to their jobs. I love that 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:54.959 you use the word invited. Come on back, open arms. 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:57.600 Uh yeah, you know you have to wonder. I'd love 0:09:57.640 --> 0:09:59.199 to hear from one of those employees. You have to 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:03.120 wonder what their perspective is. Absolutely, and please if anyone 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:06.559 listening you know, was in that situation, please please send 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:10.120 the letters interesting stuff. Well, let's let's move on from 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:13.480 Walmart to some other kind of red flags. UM. One 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:17.600 of them is widespread outages, reports of widespread outages in 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:22.600 these areas that we're hosting these uh, these war games Internet. Yeah, exactly. 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:26.240 So it's basically the idea that multiple communication channels, whether 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:30.120 cell signals, Internet service, et cetera, cut out or we're 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:34.120 somehow interfered with all the same time around these events. UM. 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:38.080 And we couldn't personally, um confirm a lot of these reports, 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:41.040 but they're definitely out there. They're being discussed, right. And 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:44.040 the question there is, uh, the questionnaire is one of 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:50.240 you know, coincidence or collusion to everybody's had crappy cell 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:53.559 phone surface or cable service before, you know, I mean, 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:57.560 we we live in a land notorious for that. So 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:01.240 what it let's speculate a all noll if this were 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.160 to occur, if there were a concerted effort to cut 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:07.480 communication channels, which we know is possible in the US 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.760 has done it before. Why would they do it to 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:14.640 what end? You know, I mean, if we're spitballing here, 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:19.200 I guess they maybe wouldn't want um reports of the 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:22.840 locations of these, you know, these exercises to go out. 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:25.679 They weren't want people to be blogging about it. They 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.640 wouldn't want, you know, people to be causing the fuss 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:32.000 that I mean, that sounds that sounds reasonable, I suppose, 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:34.960 But but again, I just I don't understand why these 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:39.679 exercises needed to be so secretive in the first place. Yeah, absolutely, 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:42.880 uh there Well, one one thing that we could say 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:46.160 about that is they would need to be secretive so 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:50.480 that other forces, other foreign powers don't know the nuts 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:55.000 and bolts of how they couldn't observe. But I, you know, 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:59.679 that's that's something that again is just spitballing. It seems reasonable, 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:02.960 but I haven't heard the official rationale for it. There's 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:07.360 another concern here, one of these alleged concerns which was 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:10.120 pretty interesting to me and kind of far out. It 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:12.120 was one of the most fringe concerns we heard, and 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:15.320 it was that the US was secretly preparing for an 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:20.120 asteroid impact some heavy you know, apocalyptic into the world 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:25.560 type stuff, you know, which I think is uh an 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:30.200 exciting idea. Yeah, it's almost like Bruce Willis and his 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:35.200 crew of rag tag blue collar workers weren't able to 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:37.520 blow up the asteroid in time. And so this was 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:40.800 the plan B, right, right, the plan B to contain 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:43.360 the area. And if you look at the map, then 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:46.920 because the states are primarily contiguous, you know, it looks 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:52.880 like there's a specific region marked out. So one of 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:55.880 the things that one of the things that really propelled 0:12:56.040 --> 0:13:00.160 this belief was the the actions of religious fundamental to 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:07.640 believe that an asteroid impact would usher in the the apocalypse, 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:11.880 biblical apocalypse and the end times, yes, and that there 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:17.480 would be seven I think it's horsemen for them. They 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:20.840 doubled up on the host, almost doubled up, uh. They 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:24.280 they believed that there would be a period of tribulation, rapture, 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:26.840 all this stuff. And so this group is a little 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:29.560 bit different in comparison to the other groups who believe 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:32.800 there was an asteroid impact because their predictions were based 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:38.640 on interpretations of ancient texts, right, rather than contemporary events. 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:42.480 But a lot of people began to believe this and 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:47.160 so many, in fact that eventually NASA had to had 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:50.320 to take to the internet. What did they have to 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:52.440 say about it? Yeah, they had to put out a 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:57.400 statement that said, guys, probably not the end of the world. 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:00.280 You have the text here too, right, could you do uh? Oh, 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:02.360 I'm sorry, yeah, I sure you okay, So could you 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:05.920 do uh? Like an interpretation? Here's my best my best 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:09.960 PR voice. NASA knows of no asteroid or comment currently 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:12.120 on collision course with Earth, so the probability of a 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:15.480 major collision is quite small. In fact, as best as 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:18.440 we can tell, no large object is likely to strike 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:21.480 the Earth anytime in the next several hundred years. No 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:26.160 further questions, No further questions. That was pretty good. That 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.680 was good. That was a good PR voice. So here's 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.520 one of the problems with this idea. Well, it would 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:36.360 be so so very difficult to keep an impact event 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:40.360 like this secret, or the threat of one, just because 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:45.280 even if everybody in NASA said, yeah, yeah, secrets are cool, 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.880 let's let's keep a secret, always one a secret. Why not? Yeah? 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:51.680 What just you know, for fun? Yeah, okay, it'll be 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:54.680 We're gonna shamalan these guys. I love it too. That's 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:57.760 how NaSTA people in Nassat's like, we'll pull We'll pull 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:03.480 a shamalama dingo, right Uh, ska doo skadoo. But that's 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.160 the problem. Even if NASA was on board with this 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:15.280 and the US government, there are so many other astronomers, institutions, states, organization, colleges, 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:20.000 I mean colleges yet actively watching the sky. Someone else 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:24.640 would find out about this. So we also have that's 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:27.400 that's our alleged stuff, but we also have some proven 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:31.680 things that happened, right. Uh. The basic one is that 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.920 it has proven that the the exercise was actually conducted 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:39.120 and all those operations did occur. The military cautiously describes 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:42.000 it as successful, though they point out they haven't conducted 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:46.960 a full post exercise analysis, as this something that they 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:49.640 do periodically, Like I mean, is it was this like 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:52.280 a new idea to do something like this, like in 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:56.840 civilian areas. This may be a no, it is not. 0:15:57.040 --> 0:16:00.320 This may be one of the largest but and it 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:08.720 may use different or newer techniques. But military exercises are necessary, arguably, 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:12.560 and they occur fairly often. They do occur periodically, not 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:15.560 just here in the US, but around the world. And 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:17.800 we talked about that I think a little bit in 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:20.640 our last episode. You know, you can read how when 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:26.840 tensions rise in some countries North Korea, South Korea, Japan, Russia, 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:33.480 the Middle East, than other states will begin doing military exercises, 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:37.280 you know, right off the coast or right around there. Uh. 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:41.840 These drills are necessary to make sure that the enormous 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:46.280 amounts of money government spend on hardware and weapon rein 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:51.080 soldiers actually is worth it. You know that you get 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:55.120 the literal bang for your butt. Right. I'm sorry, I'm 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:59.480 not proud of that one, but but yes, uh, there's 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:02.840 there's no the thing it was proven here. Tremendously controversial 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:06.160 figure during this debate was a fellow named Alex Jones, 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:10.840 good old Alex Jones, good old a j as as. Uh. 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:15.240 He has never asked us to call Actually we I 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:18.280 don't think. I don't think Matt's spoken with Alex Jones 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:21.160 in person either. I haven't, now, have you. I tried 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:23.840 to get him. I almost got him. Actually, um. I 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:27.760 made a little documentary several years ago. Um and uh. 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:31.840 He was an outspoken critic of the subject of the documentary, 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:35.199 which was the Georgia guidestones. And I got up one 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:38.520 of his people, and they remailing back pretty regularly and 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:40.560 then just kind of stopped him. So but it's not 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:42.520 like it was gonna happen, but then it didn't. I 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:44.119 didn't even really know that much about him at the time, 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:47.920 but since I realized though he's probably highly paranoid, doesn't 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:50.680 talk to very many people. Well, it's probably very very busy. 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:52.520 He's very busy. But I thought I get a sense 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:54.879 that he likes to control his channels, you know what 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:58.560 I mean, Like you know, because I mean my film, 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:00.600 there was potential that he could have been taken out 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:02.960 of context. I think he likes to control the medium 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:05.880 of the delivery of his messages. Oh that makes sense, 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:09.000 because you don't wanna Yeah, that that does make sense. 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:11.359 He would have to be very protective of that. And 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:14.800 it's easy in especially in documentaries, for people to be 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:17.520 taking out of content. For the record, I think that's 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:20.200 a great documentary. We've talked about on the show before. 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:23.040 If you haven't seen it, right to us, if you 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:26.639 were at all interested in the Georgia guidestones. So Alex 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:29.080 Jones in this case, he covers a lot of stuff. 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:31.399 He got a lot of flak and ridicule in the 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:35.840 mainstream for the way he talked about Jade Helm. Uh. 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:38.280 People said that he was being alarmist and he was 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:41.760 making wild claims about the takeover of the US, you know, 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:46.160 very red downish um for different reasons. He said that 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:50.760 he was instead pointing out that the exercise was kind 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:54.199 of a frog and a pot thing, you know, the 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:59.639 old metaphor for cooking frogs. No, I'm afraid I'm not 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:03.080 aware of Well I don't. It's not a metaphor. Sorry, 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:06.800 it's a comparison. Uh So, the idea, and this is 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:10.040 familiar to a lot of our listeners, is that you 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:14.120 can cook frogs by putting them in water and slowly 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:17.439 turning up the heat. Because if it slowly turns up 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:20.480 at a certain rate, then they will not panic and 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:23.720 jump out, but they will slowly boil to death because 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:25.600 once you work your way up to a boil, it's 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:28.960 too late. So this idea is somewhat similar when he 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:33.359 when Alex Jones says, well, these are conducted to familiarize 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:40.399 people with this concept of an over an overarching the 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:43.360 police stage. That's a perfect word. No, it's perfect term. 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:47.280 So he saw this as the boil being turned up 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:50.119 just a little bit more uh, And he also said 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:52.800 he also said that jade Helm the last part was 0:19:52.840 --> 0:20:00.359 an acronym for homeland eradication of local militants. And I 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:02.320 don't I don't know. I don't think the government would 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:04.639 be that on the nose. But it does show us 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:06.600 that his audience, or some part of his audience, was 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:09.639 concerned that this exercise was meant to root out local 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:13.320 militias and other groups or individuals able to defend each 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:16.399 other against the military. So is that who would have 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:21.040 been interred in the Walmarts militia? Right? And one thing 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:24.159 that's interesting about this is that that in the past 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:28.800 has been legitimate concern on both sides. You know, we 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:34.360 we hear about local armed groups numerous times, and I 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:38.600 can't you know, for a couple of reasons, I can't 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:42.239 provide a solid source on this, but I can assure you, 0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:45.320 or I can't compromise the source, I guess, but I 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:52.320 can assure you that secessionist groups are far more widespread 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:55.119 than the media would have you believe. We've talked about 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:57.119 it briefly here on the air as well. But you know, 0:20:57.359 --> 0:21:00.560 here in Georgia there's like a sovereign State of Georgia. 0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:02.560 And these are the people who have their own license 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:06.239 plates or own ideas, have signs posted up saying this 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:10.160 is not us property, you are not allowed here, claiming 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:14.040 diplomatic community, none of which, of course, is acknowledged by 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:19.520 the courts. So there is it is important to know 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:25.200 that there is a culture of secessionists, but they are 0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:28.960 different from a culture of what you would call, you know, 0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:32.200 local military groups or people who are exercising the right 0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:34.680 to be armed, which in this country is a right. 0:21:34.840 --> 0:21:36.320 I mean, I guess you can think of a militia 0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:39.560 sort of a an armed to the teeth neighborhood watch. 0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:44.000 Yeah yeah, yeah, or in constitutionally it was kind of 0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:48.440 an insurance policy, right. But anyhow, that's a that's a 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:50.720 pretty touchy subject for a lot of people. It's something 0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:54.960 we can come back to later. But how did jade 0:21:54.960 --> 0:21:58.639 Helm get in the mainstream to begin with? It's because 0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:03.479 politicians got involved, right So Texas Governor Greg Abbott was 0:22:03.600 --> 0:22:08.840 prominent among the politicians, asking for more information and listing 0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:14.080 the local Texas police forces to keep an eye on 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:18.439 the jade Helm activities. Senator Ted Cruz also asked for 0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:24.040 more information. So this really catapulted it into the mainstream. However, 0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:29.680 now that now that the exercise is over and there 0:22:29.800 --> 0:22:33.840 is not a one world government in charge of the region. Uh, 0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:37.440 now that we know that we know of that's fair. Yeah, 0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:40.600 now that that has occurred, Um, the a lot of 0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:45.360 the people who were talking about this are not as talkative. 0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:47.760 I noticed that, and we did a Paris copying the 0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:52.400 other day and this came up, and I admittedly kind 0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:55.359 of the lost track of the story. And as we've discussed, 0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:57.480 for good reason, because the story just sort of fizzled 0:22:57.480 --> 0:23:01.280 a little bit, you know, right, the and let's point 0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:04.920 out some other military exercises that also occurred. Yeah, there's 0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:08.760 Bold Alligator Love that name. Yeah, it's a naval exercise 0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:14.199 where thousands of marines and sailors uh do amphibious landings 0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:17.879 and they try to prevent insurgent groups in a fictional 0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:22.439 country called Garnet. And that's actually something around the border 0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:26.240 Georgia and Florida. And then that there's another one, right. 0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:30.880 Another example is this exercise called Robins Sage, in which 0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:35.600 US Special Forces support fictional guerilla forces in numerous counties 0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:39.680 across North Carolina. UM, Green Beret soldiers work to liberate 0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:43.320 another fictional country called them pine Land or pine Land, 0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:47.440 I like Pineland, that sounds better, and operate in very 0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:50.720 close proximity to civilians. You are, you know, for the 0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:55.040 record warned that they may hear blanks being fired. Right. 0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:59.720 And then there's the Marine Special Operations troop exercise that's 0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:03.760 called Derna Bridge. And this is also in this in 0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:07.480 South Carolina, Western South Carolina and as activities in the 0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:11.760 Sumter National Forest. Here's something that did happen though. There 0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:15.600 were altercations that are on record between the military and 0:24:15.720 --> 0:24:22.520 civilians wherein civilians were firing on or attacking or planning 0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:28.879 planning some activities. Just in case jade Helm went sideways 0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:32.359 went pair shaped. Three North Carolina men, a guy named 0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:37.359 Walter Litteral, Christopher Barker, and Christopher Campbell were arrested for 0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:42.360 amassing weapons and conspiring to combat the government's alleged plan 0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:46.680 to impose martial law. These guys had pipe bombs and 0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:51.560 they had some They had some legal weapons and some 0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:56.400 illegal weapons. As far as I know, they didn't attack anyone. 0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:59.640 They were just caught on record. They just they kind 0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:03.360 of opted to wait and see, right, And I think 0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:06.679 literal who was the leader of the group. The de 0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:10.639 fact a leader had also booby trapped his house, and 0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:14.399