1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: The volume. Hi everybody, and welcome in to the Wednesday 2 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: Morning podcast. We bring Nick right on once a month 3 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: and he always delivers lifestyle, culture, Basketball, my buddy, just 4 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 1: good takes. I want to start with some thoughts on 5 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark, the Iowa basketball star and Angel Reese, the 6 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: great player for the national champion LSU Club. Sometimes social 7 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: media is truth serum. People show you their lack of 8 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: discipline by what they post. People show you their politics, 9 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: their leanings, they show you their temper. I'm always amazed 10 00:00:55,080 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: at people who think they're invisible on Twitter. For the record, folks, 11 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: we have thirty employees now and growing at the volume. 12 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: I've literally not hired people because of how they act 13 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: on social media. Watching the media on this Caitlin Clark 14 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: Angel re situation was really striking. One of the reasons 15 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: I think women's basketball is so much better today than 16 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: twenty years ago is because it's feisty and there's a 17 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: little trash talk, and it's a little chippy, and there's 18 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: a little more physicality pushing and shoving from time to time. 19 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: That's the ultimate sign of growth because we've had that 20 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: men's basketball forever. Women's basketball more than any sport in 21 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: this country has improved over twenty five years. More young 22 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: women are being encouraged to be athletes. It's always been cool, 23 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: but a lot of people didn't get it and didn't 24 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: encourage women. When you watch LSU and you watch IOWA, 25 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: the people that rushed to Caitlin Clark's defense because of 26 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: some taunting by Angel Reese time out. That's called one 27 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: road trip for Patrick Beverley. We don't rush to NBA 28 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: men's defense. It's part of au it's part of college basketball, 29 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: it's part of now all basketball. Nobody took a swing, 30 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:32,119 Speaker 1: Nobody tried to physically intimidate Caitlin Clark, and let's stop there. 31 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: Do you understand to get to the highest levels of 32 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: any form of basketball, women's basketball, do you understand how 33 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: tough you have to be, how resilient you have to be. 34 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: Do you know how competitive Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese 35 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: are since they picked up a basketball, people try to 36 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: intimidate them, box them out, get chippy. That's called basketball. 37 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: I watched Larry Bird track talk and Gary Peyton trash talk. 38 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: If you really respect women, then allow them the same 39 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: freedoms that we allow men. Verbal sparring is part of 40 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: the sport. I watched Doctor j and Larry Bird throw 41 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: punches at each other. It didn't end their careers. They 42 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: were able to overcome it. Ten minutes later, Caitlin Clark 43 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: when asked about Angel Reese, I'll read you the quote. 44 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: We're competitive, we show emotions in different way. She's tremendous. 45 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: I have nothing but respect for I love her game. 46 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: The way she rebounds, scores the ball incredible. I'm a 47 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: big fan of her. Stop pandering. She's okay, She's tough, 48 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: she can handle it. Show the same respect you would 49 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: a guy playing basketball. He can handle some trash talk. 50 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: You know. Years ago, I work with somebody named Christine Leahy. 51 00:03:55,760 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: She did the herd Line news update and she was 52 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: in like her mid twenties, and LaVar Ball came on 53 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: the show and started took some verbal shots at her. 54 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: Didn't try to physically intimidate her, but took some verbal 55 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: shots at her. And I didn't rush to her defense 56 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: because she immediately landed two or three of her own 57 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: verbal shots, and I didn't want to make her look weak. 58 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: I thought the ultimate sign of respect to either Jason 59 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: McIntyre Christine leahy Joy Taylor is their equals. They can 60 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: handle some sparring and trash talk. I mean, I have 61 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: strong opinions about athletes. Can I not handle a strong 62 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: athlete having an opinion about me. The point is, if 63 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: you really respect women, then you have to respect them 64 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: enough to understand they can handle it. Right, they can 65 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: handle it. Caitlin Clark's fantastic. Angel Reese is fantastic. I 66 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: don't want to hear about Well, when the last time 67 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: that you saw a winning team taunt a losing player? Oh, 68 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. All throughout the college football season. I mean, 69 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: you kidding me? In these rivalries, I remember Baker Mayfield 70 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: grabbing his junk on the sideline. I got guys at 71 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: the coin toss talking trash in college football. One of 72 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: the most amazing parts of the women's Final Four. What 73 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: about chippiness, well, intimidation, people trying to get into each 74 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: other's heads. Women's basketball's officially arrived. They can defend themselves. 75 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark's going to come back. She's going to be 76 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: an All American. I will probably be one of the 77 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: favorites to win the national championship. But to get to 78 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: the top of even college sports, college baseball, college women's 79 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: men's basketball, college football, all a wrestling. It doesn't matter 80 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: what it is. Do you know how tough and resilient 81 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: you have to be as an athlete, a man or 82 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: a woman. Show the women respect. The NBA Playoffs are 83 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: upon us. Twenty teams get in all trying to get 84 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: that one crown. For last minute amazing deals to watch 85 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: your favorite NBA team. It can be the Warriors, it 86 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: could be the Kings, It could be the Sixers, it 87 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: could be the Bucks. 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Is the ultimate respect to 104 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: women as they can handle themselves, and that Caitlin Clark 105 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: is not a lamb to be able to get to 106 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: the highest level of any Division one sport baseball, football, hockey, wrestling, 107 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: women's basketball. You've been mocked, you've been taunted, you've been 108 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: boxed out, you've probably taken a punch. These women are 109 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: feisty and they talk trash. And the ultimate respect isn't 110 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: rushing to their defense, it's realizing they can handle her. 111 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,559 Speaker 1: She's nobody's underdog. Colin Listen, Angel Reese is awesome. Angel 112 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: Reese is Some of the people commenting like, oh who 113 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: is Angel Reese? To trash talk. She was the fourth 114 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: leading scorer in that game. She also set the all 115 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: time record for double doubles in a season, was the 116 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: first team All American, was the MVP of the Goddamn Tournament. 117 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: So Andrew Reese when they win the championships, allowed to 118 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 1: talk trash if she wants. Now, Caitlyn Clark was the 119 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: best player in the country, and I know for some people, 120 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 1: because of Angel Reese's race and size, they looked at 121 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: her talking trash different than cait Clark talking trash. It's nonsense, 122 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: and Caitlyn Clark didn't ask for anybody's protection. Caitlyn Clark 123 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: dished it out, knew she could take it the whole thing. 124 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: And what I find so there is the reaction to 125 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: the trash talk with I know you talked about We've 126 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,599 Speaker 1: talked about everywhere. To me, there was there were obviously 127 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: an obvious, massive racial component to who is and who 128 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: is not allowed to trash talk. But then there is 129 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: the what could have been action of the trash talk, 130 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: the bigger story, which is the success of this tournament 131 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: and can women's basketball at the collegiate level become women's 132 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: tennis which is on par if not at times exceeded 133 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: the interest in men's tennis, because we as a country 134 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: have shown we will watch women's sports if there is 135 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: it's not an inherent sexism, like we won't watch women's sports. 136 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: What we need is to feel like we're watching the 137 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: best product possible. And I feel like in tennis, the 138 00:09:55,400 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: men's serves became so powerful that there wasn't serve and 139 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: volley plus then all of a sudden, Serena comes around 140 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: and you have a massive American starts like a perfect storm. 141 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: It's like, it's a better product, it's more entertaining, all 142 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: of it. Women's college basketball is a better product than 143 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: men's college basketball, Flatland, because the things you need, which 144 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: is consistency of roster, continuity stars, are there in the 145 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: women's college game in a way they're not in the 146 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: men's game. And I think women's college basketball can have 147 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: a huge moment here because that LSU team scored one 148 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: hundred and two points in a regulation college basketball game. 149 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: San Diego State one't going to score one hundred and 150 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: two last night if they got a third half by themselves. 151 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: And no disrespect, but I guess that's a little dispect 152 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: to them. It there is. Just it's a hell of 153 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: a product. The shop making awesome. And yes, we understand 154 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: you're not gonna get the same level of athleticism you 155 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: get from the men's game. We can go to the 156 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: NBA for that. And I like the attitudes. I like 157 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: the personalities. I like the stories. I really my daughter 158 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: and my youngest daughter, who's of my two daughters, a 159 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: bigger sports fan, has asked me, you know, why don't 160 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 1: I watch more women's sports? And I've never had like 161 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: the greatest answer for her. She's nine, and I was like, 162 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: we can go to some w NBA games, but the 163 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: w NBA versus the NBA one is just clearly from 164 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: basketball wise, a superior product. But the female college games 165 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: were awesome. They were. And here's the other part of it. 166 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: I wonder if with n I L. Colin, if there's 167 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: not way more money playing in college then going to 168 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: the w NBA. I wonder if for Caitlin Clark, can 169 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: she not make more money like whatever her sponsors will be, 170 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't they prefer she'd be staying in college as long 171 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 1: as possible because those ratings, more viewers, more everything then 172 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: at the w NBA level. So I think that sport 173 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: can really have a moment right now. I really do. Yeah, 174 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: And I think the men's final four, the women blew 175 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: out ratings. The men's was one of the least watch 176 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: because you had underdogs and between the transfer portal and 177 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: men's college basketball and the one and done culture. You 178 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: can't name any starters. The average college fan this morning 179 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: couldn't name two players for San Diego State and they 180 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: were in the title game. And I do think that 181 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: doesn't it doesn't completely puncture the NBA. But mobility. Adam 182 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: Silver's always been more concerned about it than I would. 183 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: But I think one of the reasons the Warriors continue 184 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: to get the best TV ratings and the Celtics are 185 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: right behind them is because it's the same group of 186 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: core group of guys for like six years, and that 187 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: really matters. That's why Brooklyn had all these stars and 188 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: terrible ratings. By the way, the Lakers last three years, 189 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: I've had terrible ratings because the rosters constant influx well, 190 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: and the NBA doesn't need to do a better job 191 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: in my opinion of marketing its next generation steps thirty five, 192 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: Lebron's thirty eight, you know what I mean. Durant's an 193 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: old thirty four because of the injuries, like you're gonna 194 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: You're really living ratings wise off a group of players 195 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: who should not still be excellent, you know, they're very 196 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: The fact that Lebron's going on twenty years of super 197 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: high level play and relevance that's borrowed time and now 198 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: maybe they're gonna try to transfer that to Brownie, But 199 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: that's a hell of a bet they're making. Well. The 200 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: other thing, what can we take Sometimes I will see 201 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: a business out there with the volume we have over 202 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: thirty employees now, but I'll see a smaller business and 203 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: I'll say, oh, I like what they're doing. So I 204 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: think you see this with big companies all the time. 205 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: They look and see what young ascending companies do. And 206 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: what can the NBA take from college sports? Well, the 207 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: quality isn't close, but the urgency is amazing. And if 208 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: I was Adam Silver, you cannot have seven game first 209 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: round series if you're looking for upsets, which clearly clearly 210 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: the urgency and the sudden death nature of college men's basketball. 211 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: Some of these ratings in the early part of this 212 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: tournament between no name teams get huge numbers. So I 213 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: think if you want to pass the baton from the 214 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: veterans to the kids, you gotta have some shorter series 215 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: where sometimes a young team comes in with hutspun energy 216 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: Memphis and upsets a really good team that now we 217 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: know over time that young team in the NBA won't 218 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: win for a series, but I do think the NBA 219 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: playoffs could use more upsets well, or let me give 220 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: because the counter to the that will always be how 221 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: much more? How much benefit are we getting from less 222 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: revet and less inventory of our most valuable time of 223 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: the year, which is postseason games? Right, Someone give me 224 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: an actual answer why of all sports the NBA has 225 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: not gone to drafting your playoff opponent. You want the 226 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: regular season and matter if you are the one seed, 227 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: if you are denber, if you have earned it. Once 228 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: the field is set, you pick who you play. That 229 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: would be a massive reward. And if you're the two seed, 230 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: you get you get to pick next. As opposed to 231 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: what we're gonna have happened, which is now, all of 232 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: a sudden, you're gonna have I can't it's gonna be 233 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: unbelievable to watch. In these final one hundred and twenty 234 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: hours of the season, the Lakers have been fighting like 235 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: hell to avoid play in and now, honest to God, 236 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: I believe they might on the final day of the 237 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: season be the sixth seed and risk falling back into 238 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: the play in to avoid moving up to the five, 239 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: where they have to play Phoenix. You know what I mean, 240 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: You're gonna have the Lakers, Warriors, Clippers in like this 241 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: staring contest of who wants to play, like who wants 242 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: to guarantee they're not in the play in. But if 243 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: you do that and the other two teams take the 244 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: night off, you now all of a sudden, congrat you 245 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: avoid the play And here's Kevin Ryan and Devin Booker 246 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: in round one. Let these teams draft their playoff opponent. 247 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: It would so let me get in the East a 248 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: team that I know you've liked historically, Boston. Boston has 249 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: been better than Philly. Boston has not, over the course 250 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: of the year, been better than Milwaukee, but they did 251 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: beat them twice by forty points. You know what, Boston's 252 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: big reward for their season is gonna be Miami in 253 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: round one. Congratulateuculations Boston. You know what I mean? Yeah, Philly, 254 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: who's been worse than them. Philly's gonna get a shell 255 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: of a Brooklyn team. And it's like, Okay, Mikail Bridge 256 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: is a nice player, but that's fine, that's absurd, It's ridiculous. 257 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: Let and that would add Injurgue and it would add 258 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: import to the regular season, and every first round series 259 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: would feel like a grudge match because the team would 260 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: be like, you picked us, Why did you pick us right? 261 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: Why didn't you be it? So I wish they would 262 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: do that. I've encouraged that for all across all sports, 263 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: but nobody, the leaguees don't want to do it. Well. 264 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: I do think they're gonna do a mid season tournament 265 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: in the NBA. I think what's happening. Analytics, to be honest, 266 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: do not always help sports. In baseball, it slowed the 267 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: sport down right. It was home runs, it was strikeout. 268 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: It was like does anybody hit a single anymore? So 269 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: they finally got rid of the end by the way, 270 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: more singles, more stolen bases, more plays at the plate, 271 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: more action. The ratings are up, the games are better, 272 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: more of everything. But I do think the NBA, the 273 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: analytics are telling general managers rest your stars because this 274 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: sport is so taxing. So in baseball, you go into 275 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: a town and you hang out for four days and 276 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: a third of the team doesn't play. They're in the bullpen. 277 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: But in basketball and hockey, and especially basketball, because you're 278 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: not on the ice for forty five seconds, then off 279 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: a player who's abnormally large anyway, right, Like a seven 280 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: foot one guy who travels, going to be harder for him, 281 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,479 Speaker 1: regardless of the plane. So he's going to play forty 282 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: minutes both ends, burn through seven thousand calories, get on 283 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: a plane, land in a city at four in the morning, 284 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: go to bed, quickly, get up, shoot around. Frankly, have 285 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: you seen old basketball players. They're all ben over, they 286 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: all look like hell. So the analytics are telling you 287 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 1: play stars less. So even though this minimum number of 288 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: games for awards sounds like on its spaces, it will 289 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: solve it for a veteran player, He's not gonna a 290 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: veteran glass by the way, Yannis, he doesn't care about 291 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: awards anymore. He wants to be healthy for the Celtics play. Yeah. 292 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: I don't know that there's a solve. It is because 293 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: it's the constant conflict between the GM and this cross sports. 294 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: The GM slash head coach whose only incentive and obligation 295 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: is winning an ownership in the league, who theoretically should 296 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: only incentive should be we're an entertainment product. How do 297 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: we maximize our entertainment value? Like the only thing I 298 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: could compare it to is the schedule. I live in 299 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: New York City. The Broadway schedule is insane. You get 300 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: Monday's off, still do seven shows a week. Hey, they're 301 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: two and a half hour shows, right, and a lot 302 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: of these. There's a show I went to with my 303 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: you know, my daughter's a senior in high school. She's 304 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: a theater major. It's what she wants to go into. 305 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: Show called Funny Girl, the Fanny Bright Story. The main character, 306 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: the star of it now is this girl from Glee 307 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: who is legitimately fuhnomenal. And the moment she signed up 308 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: to do it, tickets through the roof. They you know, 309 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: they announced she's not doing Thursdays or whatever, but she's 310 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:35,239 Speaker 1: doing every other show they do. My guess is I 311 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: can't prove this, but she probably would be slightly better 312 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: if she was only doing three shows a week. But 313 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: Broadway understands our entire purpose is entertainment. We're not competing, 314 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: you know, we are here to entertain the audience therefore 315 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: make money. So you are out there every single night. 316 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: Can you imagine if if Broadway had the same type 317 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: of thing in the NBA, It's like, well, well, you know, 318 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: we've looked at it, and she's really only going to 319 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: be able to peak performers on three days a week, 320 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: and we're not going to tell the audience any idea 321 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: what three days those are going to be until they 322 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: show up and to kill him. And so I don't 323 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: know what it is. I don't know what the solve is. 324 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: The NBA keeps trying to do it, but I don't 325 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: think Adam Silver is quite a harsh enough hand to 326 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: force it because he's in a partnership with the players. 327 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: But this does go ahead because I have a different question, 328 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: But go ahead, well, because I don't think there is 329 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: a solve, and that's okay. NASCAR's audience is old. Every 330 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: sport has a hole and a problem. NASCAR's sport is old. 331 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: How solvable is it. NFL's got a concussion issue, it's 332 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: grown men tackling each other. It's not going away. Baseball's 333 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: got a pace issue and a lack of scarcity. There's 334 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: a billion games that's not going away. Hockey relevance. Gretzky 335 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: helped a little briefly college basketball one and done culture. 336 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: The truth is the NBA problem like every sport. Cricket 337 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: had a pace problem, Soccer, there's just so few elite 338 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: players that if you get one and you face teams 339 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: that don't have one, you just dominate for a decade. 340 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: So I don't feel bad for the NBA because it 341 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: I think you can mitigate some of the issues, but 342 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: every sport has an issue. This is really the primary 343 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: one for the NBA stars sitting you won't completely solve it, 344 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: but I think like concussions, less hitting in practice, better helmets, 345 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: it will take out about thirty percent of it. And 346 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: for the record, if you give me thirty percent more 347 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: stars playing, it won't be on talk shows because they've 348 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: got a ten years ago and it was never a 349 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: topic that you know that's correct, all right. One. I 350 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: don't know where else you want to go, but when 351 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: you're talking about college basketball and then resting guys brought 352 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 1: me to something that I mentioned on TV today that 353 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: I want your thoughts on. All right. So everyone saw 354 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: the Victor winban Yama highlight. The seven foot five alien 355 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: did a step back three missed it, went and got 356 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 1: his own dun got his own put back dune. I 357 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: also saw a video of the pregame workout he does 358 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: for his feet. He does like these foot stretched things 359 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: to whatever to try to keep his feed healthy. And 360 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: then I saw this quote from a Western Comers general 361 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: manager saying, we're all gonna feel like idiots for not 362 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: tanking for this guy. I am quietly very concerned, and 363 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: my entirety, the entire reason for my concern is literally, 364 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: never have I ever seen someone taller than seven three 365 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: not be ravaged by injuries ever, not once. And this 366 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: guy is going to be playing on the perimeter yea, 367 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: with on that type of wear and tear. Colin, I 368 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: don't care how far back we have to go. Ralph 369 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: Sampson his feet killed him, Rick Smith's or Vitas Sabonis 370 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: Yao Ming Sam Booth And I don't know if he 371 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: was seven that's quite as tall. But yeah, Greg Odin 372 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: who wasn't quite as tall. Durant even had the Jones 373 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: fracture and now seems to be breaking down a little 374 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: porzingis all of them? Forget the super tall guys you 375 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: met minute Ball and some of those guys that dealt 376 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: with some tragic stuff. I everyone is talking that people 377 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: are like, he would go number one in the draft 378 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: if Lebron were in it. Guys. The thing is, I 379 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: get it. If you tell me, Wimben Yama's gonna be 380 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: healthy for fifteen years. Yeah, he's one of the three 381 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: greatest prospects ever, maybe the best prospect ever. I don't know, 382 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: but I have seen I am so when chet was 383 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: coming out, I was like, Yeah, it's the skinniest player 384 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: I've ever seen, and we got wild and Brew killed 385 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: me for it on the show. I was like, skinniest 386 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: player I've ever seen. He played one summer league game 387 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: against Lebron and we've never do We've never seen him yet. 388 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: Since then, Wimby concerns me because when you're so tall, 389 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: your agent is lying about your height in the other direction. 390 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: Alarm bells go off for me because I don't know, man, 391 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: I just what makes him so special is what would 392 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: terrify me. And here is the reason I was thinking 393 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: about it. Team. Have the Pelicans helped or hurt Zion? 394 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I know they've been as cautious as possible. 395 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: He's played one hundred and twenty games in four years. 396 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: Maybe you can tell me if they were, you know, 397 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: more old school with him, he's he'd be out of 398 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: the league by now. Hard time believing it. I think 399 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: maybe that the being so cautious with everything with him 400 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: has not been the best for him. I can totally 401 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: see the same thing happening with this kid. He comes 402 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: into the league, has a little minor thing, they're like, oh, 403 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: give it six weeks. Like, I don't know. It makes 404 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: me nervous. It makes me nervous. Yeah. Yeah. We just 405 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: recently came to terms with size matters for quarterbacks. I 406 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: remember pushing back on Kyler Murray and like, guys, he's 407 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: significantly smaller than everybody else, Russell Wilson, anybody's ever been. 408 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: And I remember very early an All Pro defensive lineman 409 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: in the NFL who I know played him year one 410 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: and said, brother, he's not going to be in this 411 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 1: league seven years. He does not like to get hit. 412 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: He goes, I hit him, he wins. Does that worry 413 00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: about absolutely? But I have another theory on that. So 414 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: people were very uncomfortable. I didn't like Baker Mayfield. I said, 415 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: as a one, he's too small. He's not that. So 416 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: we're coming to terms with Drew Brees was the outlier 417 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: that size matters and quarterbacks. I said the same thing 418 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: about chat Holmgren. I said, if I had one pick, 419 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't take him. But Oklahoma City had so many picks, 420 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: so he's such a physical uniform unicorn. You owe it 421 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: to yourself to take take the take the fire. I'm 422 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: fine with it. I just I don't like most or least, 423 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: biggest or smallest anything basically, right, Yeah, I like that, 424 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: and I know I can get burnt on it. But 425 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: this is and I'm curious what your theory on Bryce is. 426 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: Because Bryce is clearly the best on film prospect, it's 427 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: not even arguable. But then I'm like, wait, they're saying 428 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: he's thinner than Guyler. I don't know if I think 429 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: he might be undraftable for me, Like he's so small, 430 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: so I that he's too small, like the biggest and 431 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: the smallest just concerns me. I want to see someone 432 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: else do it first. What's your theory on Bryce? Okay, okay, 433 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 1: So my theory is you can't treat every investment like 434 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: a four oh one K. So a four oh one 435 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: K you put money into and never take it out 436 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: until you retire. But you can also day trade stocks. 437 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: You can buy stuff and sell it. You can flip houses. 438 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: There's a lot of equities and there's a lot of 439 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: investments that aren't built for long term, and those are 440 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: also excellent investments. So not every quarterback you draft is 441 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: built for ten years. But if Carolina said to themselves, listen, 442 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: our doctors say you're going to get three really good 443 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: years out of him and buy year four Hill deteriorate 444 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: to stabilize the organization, wouldn't you still take him? Oh 445 00:28:54,160 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 1: that's interesting, it's ye. So what you don't want to 446 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: be in the NFL is Indianapolis a wreck. But in 447 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: that division in the NFC, Frank Reich's a good coach, 448 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: you bring him and by the second year you draft 449 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: a quarterback in the sixth round. The third year you 450 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: draft one in the fourth round, the fourth year you 451 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: draft one in the second. The Patriots every other year 452 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: drafted a quarterback with Brady. There's an argument to be 453 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: made you should draft a quarterback every year anyway. But 454 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: if you believe Bryce is the best quarterback, and if 455 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: you just got three years, which for any size is small, 456 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I think two is going into the year four. 457 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: Let's say let's say realistically, Kyler gives you two more 458 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: years and then retires and goes, I'm done. Well, you 459 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: had Josh Rosen and everybody was getting fired and Kyler 460 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: got into the playoffs. And so it's like, Chet Holmgren, 461 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: if you told me where you're gonna get four really 462 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: good years from him, forty percent of the first round 463 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: of the NBA is a bust. So that's interesting that 464 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: it's just you're looking at it as and three years. 465 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if it would just three years, I 466 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: think that would concern me. But if you're like, hey, 467 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: this guy's going to give you his full rookie contract, 468 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: his fifth year option and one franchise tag and you're 469 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: never gonna have to give him the massive deal and 470 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: you're going to instantly be relevant, have the quarterback on 471 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: the route on the cheap deal, That's something I've never 472 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: really considered that idea, but that I just and by 473 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: the way, and maybe he defies the odds. Maybe he 474 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: is Drew Brees, and you know, because he is so 475 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: accurate and seems like such a good kid, it just 476 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: seems like so small in a big man's game. You 477 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: mentioned the Colts and you asked me on the show 478 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:48,479 Speaker 1: today about Lamar, would you Peter King said that he 479 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: believes that the Ravens would just give you Lamar straight 480 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: up for the fourth pick. Would you do that if 481 00:30:55,280 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: you were Indie? Just a four pick for Lamar Jackson, 482 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: number four overall pick this year's draft. You give them that, 483 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: and you gotta give Lamar deal. Peter King says he 484 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: thinks the Ravens would say yes today, They wouldn't try 485 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: to match. They wouldn't fourth overall pick Lamar straight up 486 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: if I would hurt me, yes, because I think in 487 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: the NFC he would dominate. In the AFC, he'll make 488 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:30,479 Speaker 1: you very viable. And and I also think that Indies 489 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: in a situation now we're at best. They're going to 490 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: get the third best quarterback unless somebody leaps them in 491 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: a bad quarterback class or Lamar jack Lamar Jackson, and 492 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: you just and you can take a deep breath and 493 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: say we're off this damn treadmill. So I think the 494 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: Lamar conversation has been so I don't know that any 495 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: conversation has ever frustrated me more because it it seems 496 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: like to me obvious where he is as a player. 497 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: He is clearly not a top five quarterback in football, 498 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: just clearly not. And I understand anyone of unanimous MVP 499 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: get it. I understand that some of the folks will 500 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: be like, here are just his passing stats, not his 501 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: rushing stats. I'm like, honestly, I give a shit. I 502 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: watched the games. I know he's not a great passer. 503 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: I know he's not. I know there are you know, Mahomes, Burrow, 504 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: Trevor Herbert, Allen, those five guys are better than him. 505 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: I understand Justin Herbert doesn't. If Justin Herbert were, it's like, hey, 506 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: you can have him for two first round picks. There 507 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: is somebody would offer him a contract. By now. I 508 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: know this to be true. Right, there's those five guys, right. 509 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,719 Speaker 1: I also know that right now, if you're actually ranking 510 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: quarterbacks going down the list, Dak Prescott's like tenth and Dak. 511 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: I think Lamar is better than Dak. You might say 512 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: Dak Beret and Lamar whatever it is worse. Lamar's the 513 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: tenth best quarterback. So he's not one of the absolute 514 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: no brainers. He's still better than twenty starters. So, like, 515 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: let's all take a deep breath. Teams are so desperate 516 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: for quarterbacks to give Daniel Jones forty million a year 517 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: for four years. So again, so is he perfect? No? 518 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: Is he hurting? Himself by not having an agent. I 519 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: think unquestionably yes, is it frustrating that he hasn't the 520 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: passing wise, he's actually awesome as some of the really 521 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: hard stuff. It's the layups that he's not great at, 522 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: has never gotten great at. And it's frustrating. Sure, But 523 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: does it still seem baffling to me that a team 524 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: like Detroit isn't like hm, we damn near me the 525 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: playoffs with Jared Goff. We have extra first round picks. 526 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: We're in the soft conference, in a division that next 527 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: year the most established quarterback is going to be Kirk Cousins. Yeah, 528 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: we'll pay Lamar Jackson and maybe go to the super Bowl. 529 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: Even though he's not perfect. I do think there's something else. 530 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: So we both admit his unorthodox personal representation hurts and 531 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,479 Speaker 1: that the injuries really hurt. There is a third thing 532 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: that an executive in the league told me about a 533 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 1: year ago is that if you bring him in, you 534 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: better go find a backup that works for him if 535 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: he gets hurt. And it's a different offense than your 536 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: typical offense, so you've got to make some real staff changes. 537 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 1: And if he's a franchise guy, you got to sign, 538 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: you got to bring in a whole new group. And 539 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: it's almost like in our space, there's people that do 540 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 1: play by play, and there's people that are analysts, and 541 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 1: then there's guys like you and I that are opinionists 542 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: and generalists. What we don't work doing games or hosting 543 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 1: a show, right, you have to bring in people who 544 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:07,240 Speaker 1: create topics for you and I. So Lamar is unique 545 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 1: and that he's not your classic drop pack, but he's 546 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: a better thrower than you think. He does have an 547 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: injury issue one of them, kind of freaky in the pocket, 548 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: but he's got such a dynamic style of which you 549 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: should absolutely lean into that there is a okay if 550 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: we bring him in an indie Okay, Shane Steiken, what 551 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: do you have to do to your staff to do this? 552 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: And so now I'm not saying there aren't a lot 553 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: of things you can't do with Lamar you can do 554 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 1: with other quarterbacks, but he is such I listen. I 555 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: talked to Sean Payton about Russell Wilson when he was 556 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: not the Broncos coach, and I said, what would you do? 557 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 1: And he said, I'd get him back to playing basketball 558 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: on grass. He goes Russell's at his best playing basketball 559 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: on grass. Well, that's not Drew Brees. So you're literally 560 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: bringing in staff and people and personnel that work with 561 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 1: basketball on grass. So mars that to I would say, 562 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: an even hyper version of that. So he's a very 563 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: I guess what I'm saying is the downside to unique 564 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: is that you have to build people to support unique, correct, 565 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,240 Speaker 1: and it's not as easy, none of it's That's why Listen. 566 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: Do I think the league as a whole doesn't want 567 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: to do guaranteed deals? Obviously? Do I think the owners 568 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: might be, you know, at the owners meetings asking around, 569 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: you're not gonna You're not doing guaranteed We're not We're 570 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: not going down there. You know the Brown screwed us, 571 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: We're not going further. Sure, So do I think there 572 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:39,399 Speaker 1: is that level of collusion if you sure? But as 573 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: I said before, if Trevor Lawrence, we're done with his contract, 574 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: franchise tagged, and for the whole league, it was like 575 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: Trevor was like, Hey, I want a fully guaranteed deal 576 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: and it's gonna cost two first round picks. Five of 577 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: these teams would have said, I don't care who gets 578 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: mad at me? I'm doing. So part of the reason 579 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 1: there hasn't been a hot Lamar market is because of 580 00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: the things that you're talking about. There are some limitations 581 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 1: and it is not simple, but there is still a 582 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 1: massive instant upside, particularly for an NFC team where going 583 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: into next year the best quarterback in the conference. I 584 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,720 Speaker 1: think Jalen Hurts has earned that, but he's only shown 585 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: to us for one year, and then after that it's 586 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 1: Kirk and sorry, it's Stafford coming off an injury, or 587 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:30,479 Speaker 1: Dak or whomever. We have no idea, and so that 588 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: part of it is it is. And my theory on 589 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: that is I think most of these teams are waiting 590 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: until after the draft because if you're like, if we 591 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,919 Speaker 1: sign Lamar, we're going to be better, So our pick 592 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: in the future years will be worse than the pick 593 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: this year, so might as well spend our you know, 594 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,919 Speaker 1: use our pick this year, and then the two first 595 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 1: round picks we'd have to give up are going to 596 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,760 Speaker 1: be in the twenties or whatever it is. I also 597 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: think when I saw the report that the Patriots were 598 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: shop mac Jones, that I'd keep an eye on Belichick. 599 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: And I'm glad I've brought that up. So it's interesting 600 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: and I'm going to use our business again as a 601 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: comp So you were given a shot at FS one 602 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: and you have succeeded. But it does matter that you've 603 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: had success as your first big syndicated cable opportunity. If 604 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: you would have failed, there's a chance you would have 605 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 1: never gotten a second opportunity, right, same for me at 606 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: ESPN Radio. If I tank, i'm my careers, I go 607 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 1: back to doing local radio, and there's a big gap 608 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: between local and where I've ascended to. So Mac Jones, 609 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: I defend. I disagree with Eric Mangini on this. So 610 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: Belichick is still pissed off that Mac Jones sought help 611 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: outside of the building last year when they gave him 612 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 1: Joe Judge as a quarterback coach and Matt Patricia as 613 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: a coordinator. And I thought, had I gone to ESPN 614 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 1: because in the NFL, Drew Brees is an outlier. You 615 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 1: bomb in the first one star quarterback, you don't get 616 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: a second chance. Mostly so, and this isn't Deshaun Watson, 617 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: who did star in Houston, had personal issues, but what 618 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 1: we knew he could play, So had I gone to 619 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 1: ESPN replacing Tony Kornheiser, and they would have given me 620 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: a sales guy to help with content, not taking it seriously. 621 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: And I bitched to my boss and he wouldn't listen. 622 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: My only out would have been delete it to the press. 623 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: What a shit show management was. So I told Mangini, 624 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: I understand there's this sense that, well, mac Jones, he's 625 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: not allowed at this point in his career and might 626 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 1: take away his time out, time out, time out. His 627 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: career is three years, uf it up. He's going to 628 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: be viewed as insignificant and people will never give him 629 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 1: a franchise job again. So they literally Belichick takes this 630 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: big wild zany swing Max, like the hell you're doing that, 631 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm a quarterback. Nobody else has to deal with this, 632 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: and he starts leaking shit right, he's losing the locker room. 633 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 1: So the mac Jones situation's interesting is that I kind 634 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: of I thought of my ESPN days. I thought, the 635 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,720 Speaker 1: hell do you do if this iconic coach is effing you? Yeah, okay, 636 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 1: so I hear you. Let me give the counterpoint to that, 637 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,760 Speaker 1: because you're right that if you had failed to ESPN, 638 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 1: your career goes differently or whatever. But I also know 639 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 1: enough about the business and know enough of where you 640 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: were when you got that job. You were not quite 641 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: Mac Jones. You were closer at that point to Joe Burrow. 642 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: You were going to get a huge opportunity somewhere and 643 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: had massive success at a bunch of places. What listen 644 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: I said for I'm not trying to be humble here 645 00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: because I said for years before you knew me, that 646 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,720 Speaker 1: I was the second best radio guy in the country. 647 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: I was twenty seven years old saying it, saying second 648 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: only to you. So I always believed I was extraordinary, 649 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:13,320 Speaker 1: but I was just kind of doing okay ratings wise 650 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 1: in Houston. When I got the shot on at FS one, 651 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: I was not the first overall pick, just like Mac wasn't. 652 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: And so let you if you are Bill Belichick in 653 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: this example, and I am Mac Jones and you say 654 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 1: I Colin Coward, successful for twenty years, I want you 655 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 1: to come work with me. Trust me, Nick. I know 656 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: it might not make a lot of sense to you, 657 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 1: but I need you to follow this. And my first 658 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: year doing it, I overachieved, and my second year, Ye're like, 659 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: I want to try some new things, and I'm out 660 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: there trademark in my name doing the gritty after segments, 661 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, fuck this old man. Know anything, 662 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: I got my career to think about. You might be like, 663 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: your career exists because of me, asshole? What do you 664 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,839 Speaker 1: do it? And when I when I put you on 665 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,439 Speaker 1: the bench and I had someone else hosting Zappy, all 666 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: of our ratings went up. So maybe you need to 667 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: go work somewhere else and see see how that works 668 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:25,240 Speaker 1: for you. So I understand that the that Mac maybe 669 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 1: was frustrated. I also understand Belichick maybe thinking, Buddy, you 670 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: can't throw the ball thirty five yards in the air. 671 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 1: I can't trust you throw a hail Mary. So did 672 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,760 Speaker 1: I maybe make a mistake with the having the special 673 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: team's coach and the astrophysicists be your offensive coordinator? Sure 674 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:50,760 Speaker 1: do I need you constantly showing up my coaches, throwing things, 675 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 1: yelling at people when you have not been part of 676 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 1: the solution. And the thing that really hurts Mac. And 677 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: there's the point I keep making on the show. The 678 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: Patriots had two games last year where they scored twenty 679 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 1: eight points. They were the two Bailey's Appy starts. It 680 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: sound like those games, Josh McDaniels came back for a 681 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 1: cameo appearance. Who's the same stabs, the same everything. And 682 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: so I also think Belichick knows well he should know. 683 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 1: Even if Mac reaches his full potential, will it will 684 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,919 Speaker 1: be a day in his life. Mac Jones is better 685 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:35,800 Speaker 1: than Mahomes, Alan Burrow, Herbert Lamar, if he stays Trevor Lawrence. 686 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: Now we're at six in his conference, DeShawn. If DeShawn 687 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 1: ever comes back, who knows, you know, comes back to 688 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,839 Speaker 1: where he was? If you know, there's Russell Wilson, There's 689 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,320 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. There's two of guys who all they're upside 690 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 1: that they have shown in their careers. Are there is 691 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: a possibility his best case scenario is eighth the best 692 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 1: quarterback in his own conference. I'd be looking for an 693 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: up grade, you know what I mean? I would if 694 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: I were Bill, and maybe Mac wants it. I don't 695 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 1: think Mac is a special talent, and so I could 696 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: be wrong on that. I just I've never watched them 697 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,280 Speaker 1: be like, Wow, that guy's got it. I've never thought 698 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 1: that that was good pushback. You probably won that one. 699 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: Well that's just because I called Ju Belichick and I 700 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 1: was Mac Jones and that's that's easy to win the debates. 701 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 1: I just played the people's ego and never lose them. 702 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: So you have been, by the way, you're in New 703 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 1: York City. I don't know if you could hear the 704 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 1: pro trunk. Can I tell you something interesting real quick 705 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:42,359 Speaker 1: about that. New York is fascinating in this regard. So 706 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 1: I didn't live here. When was the Super Bowl here 707 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 1: a decade ago? I don't know. I was here for 708 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 1: the game, but I didn't live here. Obviously. I was 709 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 1: doing local radio in Houston, and we came and did 710 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,839 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and every all the New Yorkers. Now, 711 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 1: maybe that's because the actual games in Jersey. I don't know. 712 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 1: That's what I didn't know. But they were like, yeah, 713 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: you can't tell the games going on. It doesn't it's 714 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 1: not Super Bowl week. It's just a week in New 715 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 1: York City. Man, When I tell you that, every part 716 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 1: of today in New York City felt like every other 717 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 1: day I've been in New York City. Now I wasn't. 718 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure at the courthouse it felt like a big thing, 719 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,919 Speaker 1: but and in the surrounding few block area. But there 720 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 1: is a weird part and a kind of today to 721 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 1: me and I'm not a New Yorker. I mean, I've 722 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,359 Speaker 1: lived your six and a half years now, but it's 723 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,320 Speaker 1: not where I'm from, you know, I'm from Kansas City. 724 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 1: That it did feel kind of cool that you're in 725 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: a city that has so much going on with so 726 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 1: many people, that an unprecedented historic political criminal event thing 727 00:45:55,320 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 1: is happening thirty blocks a twelve minute bike right from 728 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 1: where I was, and there was no sign of it. 729 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 1: There was, you know what I mean, there was, there 730 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 1: was nothing. New York's a weird place like that like that. 731 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 1: Just the city just keeps moving no matter what's going 732 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,479 Speaker 1: on anywhere else in the city. When you're a city 733 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,320 Speaker 1: the size of New York. In LA, the only thing 734 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:23,839 Speaker 1: people generally suffer from simultaneously is horrific weather. Yeah, we were, 735 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 1: you were, we were all in LA going, Okay, it's 736 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 1: twenty eight straight days of rain. Where's the art? It 737 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 1: means insane, right like? And New York's had, you know, 738 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 1: like blizzards and that kind of stuff. No, the Trump 739 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 1: stuff is, um you know, I saw sixty minutes did 740 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,879 Speaker 1: an interview, which, by the way, they've interviewed terrorists, so 741 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:51,320 Speaker 1: I would not schedule. Um, you know Taylor Green. Taylor Green, Yeah, MTG. 742 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 1: I would not have. But they've interviewed terrorists, so it's 743 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: sometimes you have to shine the light on ignorance. So 744 00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: but my takeaway is the ratings were down like thirty 745 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 1: five sent so sixteen minutes took a controversial stand and 746 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 1: it backfired. And the truth is she's not interesting. I 747 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,400 Speaker 1: mean for sixty minutes to lose thirteen percent of their audience. 748 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,360 Speaker 1: Is that even though you could take a very popular, 749 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 1: polarizing figure like Tucker Carlson and he may win cable, 750 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 1: if you introduced him at Yankee Stadium, he would be 751 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 1: booed out of the stadium. Is that Twitter is not 752 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 1: real life, Social media is not, and either is cable television. 753 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 1: Is that what creates clicks? Most people don't want to 754 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 1: watch wildly, wildly polarizing figures and are not rooting for 755 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 1: him and Trump. If you're still clinging to Trump, Democrats 756 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 1: aren't statistically, independence aren't, moderates aren't, and a lot of 757 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,799 Speaker 1: Republicans aren't. But if you go to Twitter, you think, oh, 758 00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 1: he's been reborn. The Biden team is praying he's who 759 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: they face. See. So it's so this is a fascinating 760 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 1: political thing. And this is where I think, and this 761 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 1: is where maybe I'm glad I'm not in this business, 762 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,760 Speaker 1: because sometimes I feel like i'd be good in politics. 763 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 1: I want to run for office. My wife tells me 764 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,959 Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to run for office. I also feel 765 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 1: then sometimes I'm like, I'm so glad I'm not involved 766 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 1: in it. But it is a tough line to walk 767 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 1: from some of the folks. So the Lincoln Project, for example, 768 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,760 Speaker 1: has gotten a lot of I think deserved criticism lately 769 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 1: for trying to walk these two lines simultaneously. Trump is 770 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 1: a unique threat to American democracy, our way of life, 771 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 1: unique in a way no politician we've ever had has 772 00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 1: ever been walking that line and also pretty clearly walking 773 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,879 Speaker 1: that line. God, we hope he gets the nomination because 774 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 1: he'll be easier to beat, Like well, hold on, like 775 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 1: wait wait a minute, just wait a second here, because 776 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 1: I might also think he would be easier to beat 777 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 1: than DeSantis. Now the more stories are reading about how 778 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,360 Speaker 1: DeSantis eats chocolate pudding and treats people, maybe he's not 779 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 1: ready for the national stage either. Well, I'm not certain, 780 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 1: but you can't I don't think you can say you 781 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 1: can simultaneously say this one guy is going to wreck 782 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,759 Speaker 1: the country forever. Also, we want him to come as 783 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 1: close as he can to the presidency, so the guy 784 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 1: we want to win wins. That strikes me as a 785 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,799 Speaker 1: little contradictory in certain ways. Can I say some about 786 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,959 Speaker 1: the sixty minutes thing? So this was where I thought 787 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:57,240 Speaker 1: the preemptive criticism was insane, and then, despite being insane, 788 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 1: ended up being correct. I thought the same thing you 789 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,399 Speaker 1: thought when they were like, we're interviewing Marjorie Taylor Green 790 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 1: and everyone's like, how could you give her a platform? 791 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,280 Speaker 1: How dare you have the same thing? I'm like, didn't 792 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 1: Mike Wallace talk to the Ayatollah? What didn't I see 793 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,000 Speaker 1: that thing? Yes, I'm like, and this isn't that considered 794 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,360 Speaker 1: like the greatest, like one of the greatest television journalism 795 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 1: moments ever. So I'm thinking, I'm like, everybody calmed down 796 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 1: and before criticizing something before you see it. The idea 797 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 1: of great journalism is shining a light, you know what 798 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 1: I mean? Like I would there's a lot of horrible 799 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: figures that I would really like to see an interview with, 800 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 1: assuming where it is going to be done. In my eyes, properly. 801 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 1: And then this lady said, you know, she's asked, you know, 802 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:57,720 Speaker 1: why do you call Democrats pedophiles? And she's like, well, 803 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 1: essentially because they are. And the response is wow. And 804 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 1: then they move on and I'm like, oh, the critics 805 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,400 Speaker 1: were right, you totally. You're like, what are you doing, Like, 806 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,879 Speaker 1: if you're gonna do it, if you're gonna do one 807 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 1: of these interviews with someone, and again, this is not 808 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,319 Speaker 1: I know you have a ton of a ton of 809 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 1: viewers of this, of all political stripes, so I am 810 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,839 Speaker 1: this is not an attack on conservatives. It is an 811 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 1: attack on Marjorie Taylor Green. If you think Marjorie Taylor 812 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 1: Green should be the next vice president of the United States, 813 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 1: you're not gonna like me because I think you're crazy. 814 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,440 Speaker 1: So like that, I'm just the If you're gonna interview 815 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:37,840 Speaker 1: someone in that extreme, you have to be ready for 816 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 1: it to be confrontational enough that they leave that they're like, 817 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 1: you know, angry, pissed off and walk out. It can't 818 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,880 Speaker 1: be at the end of it, you're like, smile and 819 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,880 Speaker 1: shake hands in my you know what I mean, in 820 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,799 Speaker 1: my opinion, and if you want to go to the 821 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 1: other side of it, if if there was a democratic 822 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,959 Speaker 1: politician who had raised a significant prominence as she has, 823 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 1: who's their platform was if you have over two hundred 824 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 1: million dollars in the bank, we should come to your 825 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 1: house and burn you that. You know what that person 826 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:10,560 Speaker 1: we should you should treat like a lunatic, and you should, 827 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,520 Speaker 1: and you should excoriate, But it doesn't mean you shouldn't 828 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,399 Speaker 1: talk to them. So I was disappointed because I thought 829 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 1: everyone criticizing the fact that they were doing the interview 830 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,279 Speaker 1: was wrong. But then the interview ended up they didn't. 831 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:22,839 Speaker 1: I didn't think they did a great job with it, 832 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 1: but I don't know. Yah no, sixty minutes it had 833 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:32,200 Speaker 1: terrorists on. So my take is Leslie Stall probably wasn't 834 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 1: the person that should have been assigned to the story. Correct. 835 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,319 Speaker 1: That's how I feel having seen it. I didn't say 836 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 1: that I think that warrant, but having seen it, I'd 837 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:48,440 Speaker 1: be like, something you need sometimes you need confrontational journalists, yes, 838 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,160 Speaker 1: and something like that. The you, but there should I 839 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 1: don't think it should just be we'll never talk to 840 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,960 Speaker 1: this person and pretend it's one thing to be like, 841 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,399 Speaker 1: we don't want to give a platform just someone who 842 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 1: doesn't have them. You know what I mean, like some 843 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 1: some right white supremacist Twitter troll. Yeah, why give them 844 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,360 Speaker 1: a platform? This person is a prominent member of the 845 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 1: United States Congress. Right, they have a platform. They're ignoring them. 846 00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,680 Speaker 1: Is not going to make them go away? Very good, Nick, Right, 847 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,160 Speaker 1: that was boy, that was fifty minutes of fun. I 848 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 1: have some questions here. There's no need. This was about 849 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,359 Speaker 1: you want to ask them? Okay, all right, by the way, 850 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,359 Speaker 1: just real quick, but so we don't have to end 851 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,759 Speaker 1: on politics. Just three minutes here before I right now 852 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,360 Speaker 1: this moment. Have you do you have a lean headed 853 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:48,720 Speaker 1: into the NBA playoffs. Um, I'm gonna say Boston matches 854 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:53,440 Speaker 1: up with Milwaukee. But somehow I think when given equal rest, 855 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,959 Speaker 1: I don't think the last game Celtics Bux is fair. 856 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,879 Speaker 1: They come off a wild shootout. Drew Holliday went from 857 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 1: fifty one points to set. I'll say Milwaukee in seven over, 858 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,160 Speaker 1: Boston gets to the East, gets to the NBA Finals. 859 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,320 Speaker 1: Wiggins is in shape, but he's not in game shape. 860 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 1: Sacramento is actually a really good first round matchup for 861 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:20,319 Speaker 1: them because they know Mike Brown's tendencies the coach. They're 862 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 1: deep at guard, can throw a lot at Daron Fox. 863 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:30,080 Speaker 1: No experience against the most experienced playoff team, so I 864 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 1: do think and the travel for an old team like 865 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,160 Speaker 1: the Warriors, the travels a bus ride, there's some there's 866 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 1: some unique. That's what Raymond said. Draymond said he likes 867 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,360 Speaker 1: that matchup. Yeah, because of the t Yeah, so it's unique. 868 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 1: If they get Sacramento and Wiggins gives you sixteen and 869 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 1: Comingo gives you another twenty, I think they escape that 870 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 1: Phoenix in the first round and Wiggins is just not 871 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 1: ready to play twenty eight minutes. I don't think they 872 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,320 Speaker 1: can do it because Steve Kerr said Wiggins is in shape, 873 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,239 Speaker 1: but he's not in game shape. And by the way, 874 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:06,280 Speaker 1: big difference between game shape and NBA playoff second round 875 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 1: game shape. So I think if they get Sacramento and 876 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,240 Speaker 1: Wiggins can kind of play his way into game shape 877 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,520 Speaker 1: for about a ten day stretch and then the second round, 878 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,439 Speaker 1: then I think they would be ready. They're so deep 879 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:25,160 Speaker 1: at guard yes, blood war Yeah. And also I don't 880 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,880 Speaker 1: I don't think Phoenix again, Chris Paul is on the 881 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 1: precipice of kind of going off that cliff. I mean, 882 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:34,360 Speaker 1: you've got Peyton Deef and Genzo, Clay Pool, Steph. It 883 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 1: is the deepest guard group I think, and I don't 884 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,279 Speaker 1: remember a guard group now. They have no front court 885 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:44,279 Speaker 1: scoring without Wiggins, but I think they're built to really 886 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:49,480 Speaker 1: beat Sacramento. I don't know if if Draymond's game works 887 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,319 Speaker 1: against Yo Kitch. It kind of doesn't, right, He's a 888 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 1: little flummox by him. So I guess my my my 889 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 1: thing is there's a way for the Warriors to get there, 890 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,160 Speaker 1: but it has to be specific teams. The Clippers, but 891 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,720 Speaker 1: maybe with Paul George not at one hundred percent Chris 892 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:10,439 Speaker 1: Paul struggles in a series Phoenix. But I think if 893 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:14,600 Speaker 1: Boston or Milwaukee gets to the final, they'll beat probably 894 00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:20,440 Speaker 1: they'll be the champion, and and it'll probably be Denver. Okay, 895 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,959 Speaker 1: I don't listen. I gotta see them at I would 896 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,799 Speaker 1: be very surprised if Denver gets passed round two, very surprised. 897 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:32,440 Speaker 1: And to listen, the Warriors, Lakers, or Clippers could be 898 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,319 Speaker 1: the eighth seed any one of them, and any one 899 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:40,360 Speaker 1: of them could bounce some Denver in round one. Something 900 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 1: my son on podcast today said to me, would the 901 00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 1: Warriors winning be the worst thing for your career, Nick's 902 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:52,200 Speaker 1: career because I've written them off again and I said, 903 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,480 Speaker 1: absolutely not, and this is what I want you to 904 00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 1: take on. Then we can go. I said, I think 905 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:05,840 Speaker 1: the worst for my career would actually be the Lakers winning. 906 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 1: And he couldn't understand why, and I said, I think 907 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:15,600 Speaker 1: if we're talking long like, what is long term the 908 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 1: best for me? I think Lebron becoming I think it 909 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:26,200 Speaker 1: becoming the popular opinion, the majority opinion, that Lebron's the 910 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,919 Speaker 1: greatest player ever is actually bad for me. I think 911 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,680 Speaker 1: that if that debate, if it's everyone's like, it's like, 912 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,200 Speaker 1: it'll be like two days of like, wow, Nick was right, 913 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,880 Speaker 1: good for him, and then on to the next thing, 914 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,800 Speaker 1: like it's in my interest for the Lebron Jordan debate 915 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,360 Speaker 1: to stretch on as long as possible, and a Lebron 916 00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:50,200 Speaker 1: winning the championship in the finals MVP this year at 917 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 1: least moves that to a coin flip in the eyes 918 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:57,480 Speaker 1: of most people, and it really changes the math on 919 00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,880 Speaker 1: that in a way that that's what's interesting. If the 920 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 1: Lakers were to win the title this year, then anyone 921 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,760 Speaker 1: that says I'm not just counting the rings and the 922 00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:11,880 Speaker 1: Lebron Jordan. Thing is not only just counting the rings, 923 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,280 Speaker 1: but the written ring count would now just be one 924 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 1: one ahead because every other thing it would be like, Okay, 925 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,680 Speaker 1: who played longer is more for all these other things. 926 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,840 Speaker 1: So while it would feel great in the moment, I 927 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,560 Speaker 1: actually think long term wise it would be it would 928 00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,320 Speaker 1: not be because that is the opinion people still to 929 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,919 Speaker 1: this day on the street, the number one thing people 930 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:34,919 Speaker 1: say to me is do you really believe Lebron's better 931 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 1: than Jordan? And if everyone believes Lebron is better than Jordan, 932 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:42,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how much that hurts me. I'm not sure. 933 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:46,320 Speaker 1: Just disappear that it's like, oh, Nick, Nick's the guy 934 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 1: who agrees with everyone on the homes and everyone on Lebron. 935 00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:54,439 Speaker 1: For him, those are that was my thing? All right? 936 00:58:54,480 --> 00:59:15,520 Speaker 1: I love you college the volume. Make sure to check 937 00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:19,320 Speaker 1: out The Draymond Green Show. I brought Draymond Green into 938 00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,280 Speaker 1: the volume because one of the more entertaining voices in sports. 939 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:26,680 Speaker 1: Unique perspective understands behind the rope also chops up with 940 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:30,520 Speaker 1: guests like Gary Peyton, Zach Levine, Tracy McGrady. 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