1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: Welcome everybody, It's a Thursday edition of Clay and Buck. 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: We're starting right now. Appreciate you being with us. Look 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 2: the biggest breaking news the last twenty four hours. As 6 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 2: I'm sure many of you have seen, the horrific mass 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: shooting up in Lewiston, Maine. A manhunt, a massive man 8 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: hunt underway right now for the shooter. The death toll 9 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: has reached eighteen as of now. Thirteen have been injured. 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 2: They have a suspect, they are looking for him to 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: believe he may have crossed over into Maine. It is 12 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, cross over to Massachusetts from Maine, and it 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: is possible that they will have caught him over the 14 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: course of this show, so we will continue to bring 15 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: you any live updates from that. I watched this morning 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: as the Governor of Maine and other officials were addressing 17 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: this issue. So it is the highest casualty mass shooting 18 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 2: in the US this year. We will follow this with 19 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: any updates. So for right now, we are still hoping 20 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: that this will be brought swiftly to a conclusion by 21 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: law enforcement, and we'll tell you if we have anything. 22 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: Further as we go through the show. 23 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: We also have updates on the situation in Gaza right now. 24 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: Israeli air strikes are outpacing at this point day by day. 25 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: What we're used even at the height of the war 26 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,199 Speaker 2: against Isis. Remember Donald Trump, when he was president, brought 27 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 2: about the destruction of the Islamic state of Iraq and Syria, 28 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 2: and airpower was a major component of that. The israelis 29 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 2: using even more. 30 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: Air strikes right now. 31 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: Is reading an analysis of this last night, and there's 32 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: also an update on how this massive terrorist attack. How 33 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: was the Israeli intelligence apparatus caught entirely unaware of this? 34 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: And it has to do in part with going low 35 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: tech to defeat high tech. I'll give you details on that. Plus, 36 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: New York City has a new possible idea to deal 37 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: with migrants that I will bring to your attention. 38 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 3: That really. 39 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 2: Brings home I think the notion of New York City 40 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: as a refugee camp. I'll explain that later. And Congressman 41 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: Jamal Bowman has turned himself into police on that fire 42 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: alarm pulling incident. He looks like he's going to plead 43 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: to a misdemeanor. 44 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: Clay. 45 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 2: I know you have a big COVID story you want 46 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 2: to get to. We'll get to that in the second 47 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 2: hour of the program. But I think one of the 48 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 2: continuing one of the continuing stories that we're seeing play 49 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: play out here is the support that is showing up, 50 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: particularly on college campuses. I'd say more so even than 51 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: what you're seeing in most of the traditional or legacy media, 52 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: but the support on college campuses for Hamas. 53 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 3: You know, there was. 54 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: An incident at Cooper Union, which is in New York 55 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 2: City that I you know, it's a place that I've 56 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: walked past a million times in my life, and they 57 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: had Jewish students who effectively had to barricade themselves into 58 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 2: a part of a library because of the aggressive pro 59 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 2: Hamas protesters that were shouting and you know, they felt threatened. 60 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 3: Police were called the whole thing. 61 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: We're seeing this happening and continue to happen, and I 62 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: think we're likely to have a continuation of these these 63 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: protests and these you know, riots, mobs, whatever you want 64 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: to call them. Depends on which one we're talking about. 65 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: As the ground offensive begins, which looks like it's now, 66 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: it could be any day. It's been that way for 67 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: a while, but the Israelis have crossed over into Gaza 68 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 2: with some tanks, so there's more movement on the ground 69 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: that we've seen before. But the campus politics of this, 70 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: I do think is still a shock to a good 71 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: portion of the Democrat Party, never mind the rest of 72 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: the country. 73 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I legitimately think if you are Jewish and you 74 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: have been paying attention to what's going on, and let's 75 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: say you are sixty five years old, right, and you 76 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: just always vote Democrat because that is your team, right, 77 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: that is the tribe that you have aligned with, and 78 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: you never really give that much thought to it, and 79 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: you think Trump is awful, and you like Joe Biden, 80 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: or you liked Barack Obama, and you know this is 81 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: just your team. I think Jewish people all over the 82 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: country are increasingly looking around and saying, how did this happen? 83 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: And I don't think it's just Jewish people. I think 84 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: there are tens of millions of Americans who are being 85 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: red pilled right now as we see what is taking 86 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: place all over this country. And I just keep coming 87 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: back buck to the Harvard Harris Pole and we talked 88 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: about this, But I think it's emblematic of what we're 89 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: seeing on college campuses for people under the age of 90 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: thirty four in America. According to that Harvard Harris Pole, 91 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: it's basically fifty to fifty on whether Hamas was justified 92 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: in the terror attack that they unleashed upon fourteen hundred 93 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: innocent Israelis, and for people over sixty five, it's ninety 94 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: one to nine that it was not justified. 95 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 3: So buck think about the. 96 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: World in which we have, and I know there's always 97 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: a difference of opinion. As people get older, they have 98 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: different opinions than they might have had when they were young. 99 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: But when we have created a world, and by the way, 100 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: thirty four, ain't that young, right By the time you're 101 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: thirty four, I mean I had three kids basically by 102 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: the time I was thirty. 103 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: You're an adult, you are who you are, you know 104 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: what the world is, and you're making decisions based on 105 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: your actual character and knowledge of correct things. 106 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: Because I can still give a pass to a lot 107 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: of eighteen and nine, eighteen year olds who are just 108 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: young and dumb and stupid and they're not particularly educated. 109 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: Is it amazing when when you are eighteen or nineteen, Yes, 110 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: you think you're so worldly an adult, and then you 111 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 2: actually get older and you realize even a worldly or 112 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: you know, a lies eighteen year old. 113 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 3: Is a fool. 114 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: Yes, I talk to my boys all the time about 115 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: this because and I'm sure you remember this, Buck, and 116 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: I bet your brothers do too. And every man who 117 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: is out there listening to me right now is going 118 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: to one hundred percent not along. The dumbest human beings 119 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: on the planet are teenage boys. And I don't know 120 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: that there is a dumber age of teenage boy than 121 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: like fourteen or fifteen or sixteen. And I say this 122 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: fondly as someone who has a thirteen year old boy 123 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: and soon to be a sixteen year old boy. You 124 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: just make you look back on the decisions that you 125 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: make in those years and it's a wonder that any 126 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: teenage boy ever survives into adulthood. And I always kind 127 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: of jokingly say, but I'm trying to get their attention 128 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: when I say it, No girls final two words, Buck, 129 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: in her entire life, have ever been watched this. And 130 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: when I say that, everybody out there, you just take 131 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: risks that are totally unnecessary. You do things that are 132 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: dumb oftentimes to try to impress girls. And so that's 133 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: why I think in general, young people do dumb things, 134 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: and they grow out of doing dumb things. 135 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: So I'm not as troubled by that. 136 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: But thirty four year olds, when you start talking about 137 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: twenty five to thirty four year olds, one thing to 138 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: say eighteen to twenty four year olds, twenty five to 139 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: thirty four year olds buck and that Harvard Harris Poller 140 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: fifty to fifty essentially on whether or not Hamas was 141 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: justified to murder brutally fourteen hundred innocent Jewish people. 142 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: Well, you know, Clay, there's I think there's a a 143 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: realization that people are having now as well. It's early 144 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: in the school year for freshmen to have been rather 145 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: it's early in the process for freshmen in college to 146 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 2: have been so thoroughly brainwashed. What I mean by this is, 147 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: I think a lot of the anti Semitism and pro 148 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: Hama stuff you're seeing it actually starts even earlier than that. 149 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: I think the kids, you know, the indoctrination that you 150 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: even are receiving in high school is clearly apparent in 151 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: this now. I know, I remember my first week at 152 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 2: Amherst a very very long time ago. They do start 153 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: the brainwashing right away, so you know, maybe, but I 154 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 2: mean we're the second month of the school year. Some 155 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: of these students you're seeing, you've got to assume they're freshmen, 156 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: they're sophomores. 157 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: They haven't been around that long. 158 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 2: And so I do think that there's probably a good 159 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: portion of this that is again the propaganda and how 160 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: it's seeped in that you know, you've got sixteen and 161 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: seventeen and eighteen year olds seeing things on TikTok, yeah, 162 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 2: seeing things on social media, on YouTube, commentary from other 163 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 2: people who are you know, either their age or a 164 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 2: little bit older, who view this in these incredibly wrongheaded 165 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 2: and very you know, over sins implified terms of you know, 166 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 2: Israel is the occupier and all this, you know, apartheid state, 167 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 2: all of that rhetoric. So I think it's we often 168 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: talk about how they're trying to indoctrinate on whether it's 169 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 2: trans issues or other things at a younger age. I 170 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 2: think this identity politics stuff that we're seeing, and also 171 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 2: the anti semitism, it's starting earlier than just college. I mean, 172 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: I know some of these are post grad students and 173 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: they're like twenty eight and they're working on useless degree 174 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: number three. But you can look in these videos there's 175 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: you know, eighteen nineteen twenty year olds who are in 176 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: these marches, and you're like, how do they get so 177 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 2: brainwashed so fast? I think that it starts even younger 178 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: than a lot of people realize. And if you go 179 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 2: by the way to to switch gears to actually Hamas 180 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: and the brainwashing that occurs over there different than what 181 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 2: we see here, Clay. They start in children with children's books, Yeah, 182 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: about the Zionist entity. They start, you know, brainwashing and 183 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 2: the kids against Jews when they're basically like toddlers. 184 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: Every youth group wants to believe that they are the 185 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: smartest generation that is ever exist and that the people 186 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: that are older than them got everything wrong and they 187 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: have no idea what they're talking about. And there is 188 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: a form of rebellion and it used to be buck 189 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: and I think this is so fascinating psychologically. It used 190 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: to be that kids rebelled by a lot of them 191 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: drinking beer, smoking pot, engaging in risky behavior with their 192 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: teenage years. What's interesting is if you look at the data, 193 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: kids actually engage in far less risky behavior. Now I 194 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: think there are many different reasons for that. I'm going 195 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: through this right now. I've mentioned that I'm going to 196 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: be teaching my fifteen year old how to drive a car. 197 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: You grew up in New York City, so things might 198 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: have been a little bit different. Buck when I was 199 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: in school. You wanted to get your driver's license the 200 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: day that you turn sixteen. And I bet most of 201 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: the people that are out there listening to me right 202 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: now you remember your first friend to get the driver license. 203 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: The fact that you could get in a car and 204 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: suddenly ride with your friend and go all over the place. 205 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,359 Speaker 3: That was a huge. 206 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: Form of gaining esteeme of gaining self sufficiency freedom. I 207 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: think kids experience that now at a younger age. But 208 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: it's online, right, It's on social media. They all define 209 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: their lives through how many followers do you have on TikTok? 210 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: How many people are liking your picture on Instagram? And 211 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: their worldview is as a result, not actually the real world. 212 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: It's very much artificially constrained in social media, and I 213 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: think they're getting positive feedback with the algorithms. This is 214 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: my theory for embracing left wing dogma, because by and large, 215 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: all of these social media algorithms feed them left wing perspectives, 216 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: which is crazy, and I think that a lot of 217 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: them really buy into the good evil dynamic, not based 218 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: on what people are doing, but based on the concept 219 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 1: of colonizer colonized press or relationships. And I think a 220 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: lot of the people listening to us buck don't even 221 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: have any idea that their kids are being experienced exposed 222 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: to well. 223 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: A lot of these college kids, again, they think of 224 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 2: this as as a like their framework for thinking of 225 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: the Arab Israeli or Arab Palestinian I'm sorry, Palestinian Israeli 226 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 2: conflict is Ashkenazi Jews, who you know are Caucasian, you know, 227 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: white Oshkanazi Jews oppressing dark skinned or you know brown 228 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 2: Palestinian people. 229 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all color based. 230 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: And anyone, right, So they think of this as really 231 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 2: primarily I'm talking about the left in this country. It's 232 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 2: a different thing in the Middle East, where it's much 233 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 2: more actually religiously based than it is skin color based. 234 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: In this country, the left thinks of it as a 235 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: race primarily a race issue, and as I've said all along, 236 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 2: that is a it's not just a simplific case. It's 237 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: enormously wrong because a large percentage of that they call 238 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 2: them Mizrahi Jews. A large percentage of the Jews in 239 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: Israel come from North Africa, Iraq, Iran, the the you know, 240 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: the broader Middle East. 241 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: That is just color of the skin. Doesn't even work 242 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: if you actually look at this. But this is the 243 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: mindset that America has created. 244 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,719 Speaker 2: And there's you know, the very it's very well known, 245 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 2: but there are also Ethiopian Jews who are not white. 246 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 2: You know, you go down the list of all the 247 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: different and then you have about a million plus Palestinians 248 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 2: living in the State of Israel in security and with 249 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 2: laws and you know, running businesses and raising their families 250 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 2: and everything's fine. So this notion of this evil, racist, 251 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: apartheid state is an abject falsehood. And it's not even 252 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: in the state. It's a caricature event isn't even accurate. 253 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 2: It is a falsehood rooted in ignorance. But that ignorance 254 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: this is where we're getting to with the social media clay. 255 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: It's everywhere, and it's rewarded. You're a good person if 256 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: you believe the lie, and that's what you're seeing with 257 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 2: these young people. I don't think a lot of these 258 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: young people that you see protesting out there there, I 259 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: don't think they really understand even what it is that 260 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: they're supporting. I think they've convinced themselves that some of 261 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: the stuff they've seen on TV or heard about that 262 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 2: Hamastad they didn't really do. This is where you get 263 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 2: into the denialism of the cognitive dissonance. I think that 264 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 2: some of them are so ignorant of the conflict that 265 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 2: they just think of this as like David and Goliath, 266 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 2: which is interesting because you know, yes, right, biblical reality anyway, 267 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: but they think of in those terms. But in the 268 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 2: background of all this there are also vile anti anti Semites. 269 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 3: Who are using really the kind of useful. 270 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: Idiots of the pro Hamas cause, the pro Palestinian cause 271 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: here for their own purposes. 272 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: Is there anything dumber in American modern recent history? Just 273 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: to think about, maybe you have ideas eight hundred and 274 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: two A two two eight A two, then people who 275 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: are zealous LBTQ advocates marching in support of Palestine. I'm 276 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: not sure we can think of a dumber, more incongruous 277 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: pairing than people who would get murdered if they were 278 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: in Palestine, celebrating and supporting Palestinian terrorist Think about this 279 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: for a second. Our militaries one hundred percent volunteers, men 280 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: and women who raise their hands to sacrifice for this country. 281 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: And when they're done serving, they re enter a difficult 282 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: job market and economy with rampant inflation. That's a tough 283 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: hand to be dealt. That's why we're happy a private 284 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: company like pure Talk jumped into help. 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Clay 298 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 3: Travis and Buck Sexton voices of sanity an insane world. 299 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: I can't believe it, Buck, but I'm gonna give props 300 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: to John Fetterman of Pennsylvania again. I mean, when somebody's right, 301 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: they're right. Here's what Fetterman tweeted out. I was profoundly 302 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: moved to meet with the survivors of the October seventh 303 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: massacre and families of Hamas's hostages. Together, we begin to 304 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: post photos of the hostages outside my office to stress 305 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: the urgent need to bring them home. My office is 306 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: posting every last one. It has a photo of all 307 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: of these being posted. Buck, this is a big deal one. 308 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: He's one hundred percent right on this. You're seeing all 309 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: over the country leftists ripping down these hostage photos because 310 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: they don't I mean, this is crazy to me, because 311 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: they don't want that story of these guys to get out. 312 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 2: They're also putting up occupier over kidnapped or hostage. You know, 313 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 2: they're they're replacing the designation of these as hostages. I mean, 314 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 2: if you remember, Hamas has committed effectively all at once here, 315 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 2: like every war crime, you can think of yeah, everything, 316 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 2: you know, rape, murder, kidnapping, mutilation, everything. They're the bad guys, 317 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 2: and there's this whole you know, slow recognition on the 318 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 2: left of They're not just the bad guys, Clay, They're indefensible, 319 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 2: They're evil, They're evil. Their cause can justify none of this, 320 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 2: and that then causes real problems for the left in 321 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 2: and of itself. 322 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 3: No doubt. 323 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: And I'm still waiting on Joe Biden to come out 324 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: and point out, Hey, you were so fired up about Charlottesville. 325 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: How about some of the stuff that's going on. We'll 326 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,479 Speaker 1: talk about that Cooper Union issue. 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Do it today. 344 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 4: Let them go and volunteer gay students for Palestine in 345 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 4: transgender students from Palestine in Gaza. 346 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: You know how long they would last. 347 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 4: One day, they'd be hanged from the rafters. The best 348 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 4: proof that this is all anti Semitism, as Jonathan green 349 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 4: Blad said, the best proof is that these groups that 350 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 4: they support hate days they hang them, hate transgender people, 351 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 4: hate women, treat them as third class citizens. And yet 352 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 4: these protesters are willing to give them a pass on 353 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 4: these core issues as long. 354 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,959 Speaker 3: As they also hate Jews in the nation. Student State 355 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 3: of the Jewish People. 356 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 2: Very well said there by Harvard Professor of Law Alan Dershowitz. 357 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 3: He gets it. On this issue. There is a really 358 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 3: a stunning lack of. 359 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,479 Speaker 2: Gosh Clay, lack of context, lack of knowledge, lack of 360 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: sanity that is on display from so many of these 361 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 2: students who for them, as I've been saying, the racial 362 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 2: dynamic of is Israel and Palestine is they have no 363 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 2: idea what they're talking about. 364 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 3: I mean, very few of them actually even been to 365 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 3: the region. You've noticed. And then for a lot of them, 366 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 3: they make. 367 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: This a religious issue without really understanding, well, hold on 368 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 2: which religion is really the oppressed religion? The one with 369 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 2: two billion people are the one that had to survive 370 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 2: a holocaust in the twentieth century and has had thousands 371 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 2: of years. I mean, I can't even begin to get 372 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 2: into the history of anti Semitism. I have to spend 373 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,239 Speaker 2: days and days just talking about it. 374 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 3: So which is the religious group that's really oppressed? 375 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 2: They have this so backwards, and then on top of that, 376 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 2: their solidarity is with people who hate them. 377 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 3: Think about that for a moment. But I tend not 378 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 3: to love people who hate me. 379 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: This is so funny to think about it in a 380 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: sad way. They could go to Israel, they could live 381 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: a totally normal life, right like you could live in Israel, 382 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: the country that you claim to believe is a colonizing visa. 383 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 2: I'm sure as Tel Aviv has, like I believe, a 384 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: very big pride parade every. 385 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: Year, a huge, huge number of gay, transgender people. You 386 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: could live a totally normal life if you went to Palestine. 387 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: I would It would just be an amazing, uh South 388 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: Park like moment to try and have a gay pride 389 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: parade in Palestine. Right to take all these twenty thousand 390 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: people who were marching through the street saying, like, you know, 391 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: into Fada, into Fada, All these people, if you just 392 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: put them in a you know, got a bunch of 393 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: planes flew them over there, said Okay, let's tour Israel. 394 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: You'll be able to do whatever you want. Go you 395 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: know where you walk around with your gay pride clothing on, 396 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: Go into any store, any restaurant, sit outside, drink a coffee, 397 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: have a good time. See what you can do in Israel, 398 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: and then go to Palestine and see how about the 399 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: difference would be the stupididity and ignorance buck on these 400 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: people in particular, I think it's the single dumbest, Like 401 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: I think defund the police is the dumbest actual slogan 402 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: that's out there. But I can at least politically understand 403 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: where it came from, even though again it was insanely 404 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: stupid to be marching in favor of people that would 405 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: murder you if you marched in favor of what you're 406 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: marching in favor of in their country and in their region. 407 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: Is so profoundly stupid that I can't even believe people 408 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: could be that dumb. 409 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 3: It would it. 410 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: Would be, I think, quite in an illuminating exercise to 411 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: sit down with some of these students and you know, 412 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 2: the ones that are chanting, you know, Intefada and from 413 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 2: the river to the sea, and which we've seen at 414 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 2: school after school after school across the country, the Palestinian 415 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 2: issue on campus. You know, there are other left wing 416 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 2: causes like the trans issue. Yeah, speak on campus, but 417 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 2: there's a whole apparatus of these like different you know, 418 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 2: pressure groups and nonprofits and corporate America, right, I mean, 419 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: that's where you see some left wing issues really at 420 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 2: their most powerful. The Palestinian thing on on campus is 421 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 2: where it is more profoundly entrench than anywhere else. 422 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 3: But it would be it would be. 423 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 2: Interesting, I think Clay to sit down and ask some 424 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 2: of these students who are who are making these chances. 425 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 3: You know, they're young, they're young adults. You know, how 426 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 3: about just adults. 427 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 2: They are adults making these chances, and ask them, so, 428 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 2: what do you want Israel to do? You know what, 429 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 2: what do you really think should happen here? Because you'll 430 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 2: notice there's a lot of oh, we need to cease fire, 431 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 2: we need a pause, we need human okay, cease fire 432 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 2: for how long? Humanitarian corridor open for how long? No, 433 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 2: it is the demand no military response from Israel. I 434 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: think you would have a lot of them say yes, 435 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 2: Israel does not because what they'll say right now is 436 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 2: Israel has a right to defend itself. But and then 437 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,719 Speaker 2: in that but it's they need to be he meditarian corridor. 438 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 2: There needs to be you know, laws of war. Respective 439 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: they say all this other stuff. They say, okay, So 440 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 2: at what point is Israel actually allowed to go in 441 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 2: there and bring justice to the Hamas terrorist or killed 442 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 2: fourteen hundred of their people. None of them would say 443 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 2: that that's okay because they don't actually believe in Israel's 444 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: right to defend itself, because they don't actually think that 445 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 2: you should be in the land of Israel. That yes, 446 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 2: it really. 447 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: Boils down to That's the scary part is the part 448 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 1: you just said at the end, you know, saying hey, 449 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: they shouldn't respond. There shouldn't you don't answer violence with 450 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: more violence. I think that's wrong. And you can just 451 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: point to what would we do as we sat As 452 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: an example, if a if a cartel from Mexico came 453 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: into America and killed fourteen hundred people, no one would say, well, 454 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: they're back on their side of the wall. Now they're 455 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: back on their side of the river. We shouldn't do anything. No, 456 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: there would be a military response to that, right. I 457 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: think everybody rationally understands that. You can also make the 458 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: analogy post nine to eleven. You wouldn't say, hey, let's 459 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: have a ceasefire. 460 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 3: Buck. 461 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: What is scarier to me than that argument, which I 462 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: disagree with, but at least as an argument is I 463 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: think most of them would not even make that argument. 464 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 3: I think what you ended with is where they would say, well, Israel. 465 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: Needs to abandon Israel and give it back to the 466 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: Palestinians from the river to the sea, which means basically, well, okay, 467 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: where do you want the Jews to go? 468 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 3: By the way. 469 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: Jews have been in Israel for a really long time, right, 470 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of years, which comes back to the 471 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: question of the whole idea of this colonizing universe is 472 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: predicated on drawing an arbitrary line as to when someone 473 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: is allowed to actually be somewhere right, are are because 474 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I could say, are the immigrants who come 475 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: to the United States now? Are they trying to colonize 476 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: the United States? When they're walking around screaming, you know, 477 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 1: from the river to the sea originally from here. You 478 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: weren't just about everybody in the history of the United 479 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: States except for zero point five percent or one percent 480 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: of the population. Your ancestors came here at some point, 481 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: probably on a boat, most recently on an airplane. Like everybody, 482 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: the whole country has been colonized at some point, the 483 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,959 Speaker 1: whole world has been colonized. 484 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: But there's this, and I think it's almost intentional, this 485 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 2: historical ignorance that exists. And and there this is this 486 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 2: is very broad based. But the notion of the Islamic 487 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 2: conquest is always pushed aside. And it's like history is 488 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 2: supposed to start in the eighth century, the ninth century, 489 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: you know, and and and when I mean start it's like, well, 490 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 2: this land is now Muslim, and it's always in forever Muslim. 491 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 2: Jerusalem was, and that that whole part of the world 492 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 2: we're talking about now, Syria, Lebanon, uh, modern day Israel. 493 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 2: They're part of the Byzantine Christian Empire. Yeah, and there's 494 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 2: a lot of the Ottomans. Then the Ottomans took it 495 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,959 Speaker 2: over by the sword, and and that was you know, Ottoman. 496 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: There was the Ottoman Mandator, Ottoman Province of Palestine, and 497 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 2: you know before that the Christians, Christians had been there 498 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: for You go back in history and you find out 499 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 2: that this is land that has changed hands many times, 500 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 2: and people like to just sort of plant the flag 501 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 2: at one point and say, well, it's actually ours forever. 502 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 3: Now this is again it's going to work. 503 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: Leave aside the religion aspect of it. The Bible has 504 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of history in it, right, even if 505 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: you're not directly committed to the Christian faith, and you're 506 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: not committed to any religious faith at all, there is 507 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of historical accuracy in the Bible as 508 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: to who who was the rulers, what you know, what, 509 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: what cities existed all these different things. I mean, the 510 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: Bible is a historical artifact, is a fascinating read, leaving 511 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: aside the religious aspects. 512 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you could all that, you know you should, Okay, 513 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 2: you can hand over Israel or you know, handover Jerusalem. 514 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 2: And at the same time, though, let's hand over Istanbul 515 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 2: to the Roman Catholic Church because it used to be 516 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 2: the eastern portion of the Roman Catholic Church and then 517 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 2: it got overrun that we could do this all day. 518 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 2: I'm getting to be a nerd on a bunch of 519 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 2: different historical for all of you who remember, Yeah, I'm 520 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 2: reading about Magellan right now. This is I'm now going 521 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 2: back since I went to Rome, like I'm fascinated by 522 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 2: uh obviously was one of the coolest eras. We could 523 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 2: have a whole thing about this. But I am an expert. 524 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, I can tell you anything about the Civil War, 525 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 2: for instance. 526 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: Right, I'm pretty I would say, an expert in general 527 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: on American history. But I'm learning I'm getting fascinated by 528 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: other aspects of of of of world history, and the 529 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: whole idea of where we draw lines and decide good 530 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: guys bad guys is from a historical perspective so fundamentally 531 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: broken that I look at some of these kids on 532 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: college campuses and I just want to walk up and 533 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: just smack them in. Well, we'll play this audio when 534 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: we come back, Like you ignorant little nincome poop right, 535 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: Like you don't even know what you don't even know 536 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: what you don't know. And so this idea of good 537 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: and evil and not being able to call direct evil 538 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: that happens in your life, Like you're worried about what 539 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: somebody did six hundred years ago, and you're not concerned 540 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: about what somebody did two weeks ago. How about you 541 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: focus on things that happened in your own life? 542 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 3: Just an idea. 543 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 2: I just would be curious how many of these protesters 544 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 2: know that the entirety of the Levant was Jewish and 545 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 2: then Christian controlled long before it was Muslim. I think 546 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 2: the answer is almost none of them know this. Of 547 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 2: course they have no idea. And don't even get me 548 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 2: started on ottomn and slavery, enslavement of Christians and they're like, 549 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 2: what that never happened, Oh yes it did, a whole 550 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 2: other conversation. Look, if you think the Biden administration is 551 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,239 Speaker 2: the worst we've seen, in the White House. Just wait 552 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 2: until you learn their plans for our currency system. According 553 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 2: to a former Wall Street insider and digital currency expert, 554 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 2: a smart man by the name Tikatawari, they're contemplating replacing 555 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 2: our paper currency with a digital dollar. 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That's Dollar Recall dot Com, paid for 564 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 2: by Palm Beach Research Group. 565 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 3: Heard it on the shelf here. 566 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 2: More on the podcast Clay and Buck podcast Deep Dives, more. 567 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 3: Contents, more common sense. Find the guys on the iHeart 568 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 3: app or wherever you get your podcasts. 569 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. I know 570 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: a lot of you are frustrated by what you seen 571 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: on college campuses. I know a lot of you out 572 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: there also. On top of that, probably have kids and 573 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: grandkids at many of these campuses, and I hope you're 574 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: educating them as best you can to some of the 575 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: stupidity that some of their classmates are engaging in. And Buck, 576 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: I think you and I are of the opinion we 577 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: agree that you shouldn't kick college kids off campus expel 578 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: them for stupid opinions, even if those opinions are, in 579 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: our opinion, indefensible, because once you set the precedent for 580 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: what opinions are allowed and not allowed on campus, next thing, 581 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: you know, if you think that men should not be 582 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: able to compete as women, or you refuse to use 583 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: someone's pronouns, or heck, if you think you can say 584 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: all lives matter instead of just black lives matter, like 585 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: all of that would be potentially given the fact that 586 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: colleges tend to lean left, I think people with right 587 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: of center political opinions would end up being the targets 588 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: more often than not. 589 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I think, as abhorrent as it is, you 590 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 2: have to have college students able to say, you know 591 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 2: that they think Israel is an occupying you know, occupying 592 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 2: nation and bad country whatever. You know, they're allowed to 593 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: criticize the state of Israel on campus. I mean, obviously 594 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 2: that's going on all over the place. But I'm saying 595 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 2: we can't advocate for a change to that. What you 596 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 2: can advocate for is counter speech, pointing out how stupid 597 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 2: it is, pointing out how wrong it is. I think 598 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 2: then we discussed this a little bit yesterday. The line 599 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 2: gets different when it's oh, yeah, no, we favor you know, 600 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 2: ethnic cleansing or genocide, or we support the violence that 601 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 2: that just occurred and want more of it. Because that 602 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 2: then this incitement right there, there is a there's a 603 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 2: violence line in the speech that I do think can 604 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 2: be maintained here. But saying really heinous stupid things it is. 605 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 2: You know, you either believe in free speech or you don't, 606 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 2: and hainous stupid things are covered under free speech. 607 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: But what I think you can do is if you're 608 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: a donor, and I know we've got a lot of 609 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: people who donate money to colleges out there that are 610 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: listening to us right now, some of the high schools. 611 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 3: This was I. 612 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: Believe Leon Cooperman on Fox Business Channel earlier. 613 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 2: It's a well known hedge fund billionaire, and I think 614 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 2: he used to run research at Goldman Sachs. So he's 615 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 2: a very well known guy on the on Wall Street. 616 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: He's given over fifty million dollars to Colombia. Columbia has 617 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: been one of the central locations where they've had pro 618 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: Hamas protests on campus. 619 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 3: You know, there's there's a history here as well. 620 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 2: Edward said, who is someone that you will This is 621 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 2: someone that I studied back when I was doing effectively 622 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 2: Middle East studies, although it was kind of interdisciplinary at Amherst. 623 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 2: Edward said, Clay wrote Orientalism, which is a seminal work 624 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 2: for the left wing and anti colonial, you know, anti 625 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 2: Israeli academic viewpoint. So he was a professor at Columbia University. 626 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: So I think this is the way to go, I 627 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: said earlier. GW has been calling me asking for money. 628 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: I said, when they changed the name from Colonials, I 629 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: knew that there was something sick in the foundation of 630 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: the university that they would have allowed that to happen. 631 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: He said, No, I'm not giving money to him, and 632 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: I haven't been pleased with the way that they've responded 633 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: to student idiocy that's happened on campus, anti Jewish sentiment, 634 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: anti Jewish protests. 635 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 3: Leon Cooperman's fired up. 636 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 1: He's given fifty million, He's a billionaire, He's got a 637 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: lot of money he could give. Here's what he had 638 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: to say about the way Colombia has responded to this. 639 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 5: There was a student walk out at Colombia just a 640 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:32,720 Speaker 5: couple of hours ago, driven by Columbia professor Joseph Massad 641 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 5: who called the Hamas attack quote awesome. Where are we 642 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 5: in the world when thirteen hundred Israeli? 643 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 3: So I think he's kids. 644 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 6: The colleges have for brains. We have one reliable ally 645 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 6: in the Middle East, that's Israel, one democracy in the 646 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 6: Middle East, that's Israel. And we have one economy tolerant 647 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 6: of different people, you know, gays, lesbians, et cetera, and 648 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 6: that's Israel. I've given to Columbia probably about fifty million 649 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 6: dollars for many years, and I'm going to suspend my giving. 650 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 6: I'll give my giving to other organizations. And I've told 651 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 6: him that they should fire this professor that made the 652 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 6: comments he made. 653 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 1: When you call the Hamas attack awesome, I understand tenure, 654 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 1: and I understand the concepts of academic freedom. And again 655 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: we're talking about students. I think faculty when you have 656 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: someone who is teaching students and they are saying that 657 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: the murder of thirteen, fourteen hundred innocent Jews is awesome. 658 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: I find it hard to believe that that fulfills the 659 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: requirements for tenure. 660 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 2: It's honestly, we've seen a darkness in the soul of 661 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 2: the left that is not going to be forgotten by 662 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,439 Speaker 2: millions and millions. 663 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 3: Of Americans for a very long time. 664 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 2: I mean, there is something deeply twisted and really statistic, 665 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 2: and let's just be honest about it, deeply and virulently 666 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 2: anti Semitic. There is an underlying hatred of Jews from 667 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 2: a whole range of these different voices and opinions. That 668 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 2: then is the engine, if you will, the sort of 669 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 2: propulsion mechanism for these protests and for these rationalizations, and 670 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 2: for this pretense that this was like martyrs doing some glories. 671 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 2: These were vicious, sadistic murderers of innocent people who gained 672 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 2: nothing for anyone other than the eternal damnation of their souls. 673 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,439 Speaker 3: That's what I think. I think, That's what I said. 674 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: I also think it has been incredibly eye opening for 675 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: many people out there to see the depths of anti 676 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 1: Semitism that still exists, particularly in the left wing in 677 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: this country.