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Speaker 1: listening to Fox Sports Radio. I've said before I like

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame. I think they're good for the sport. But

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Speaker 1: if you really dig, really really deep and do your

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Speaker 1: job in the media or on the committee, Miami is

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Speaker 1: the choice. So I want to bring on Mario Christobals,

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Speaker 1: the coach of the Miami Hurricanes and a.

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Speaker 2: Friend of the show and a great guy.

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Speaker 1: So here's one of the things that again, I can't

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Speaker 1: watch every Miami game. I think I've watched you starting

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Speaker 1: to back four games, Notre Dame four. I try to

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Speaker 1: watch everybody, but you know, some games aren't as easy

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Speaker 1: to get to, and there's games that are at the

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Speaker 1: same time. So I just to set it up. People

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Speaker 1: look at their run game, but they were really mostly

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Speaker 1: look at Jeremiah Love coach. He's great, yes, but Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame this year has faced the one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: ninth defense, the one twenty seventh, the one seventeenth, the

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Speaker 1: oh five. When Love and Notre Dame faced your defense,

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Speaker 1: how did he do.

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Speaker 3: Well? Again?

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Speaker 4: Like you said, he's a great player, but our defensive

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Speaker 4: line controlled the line of scrimmage, you know, rendering them

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Speaker 4: to a very tough game.

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Speaker 3: And I think he had thirty three yards against us.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so there you go so again. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: I would argue your defense is better now because generally speaking,

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Speaker 1: people are better in December than August when you're just

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Speaker 1: hitting class. I remember the game and my takeaway was

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Speaker 1: their old line struggled to block your d line. And

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Speaker 1: that was my interpretation of the game I watched. What

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Speaker 1: was your takeaway? You faced each other well.

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Speaker 4: Again, the two real good teams going at it with

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Speaker 4: a chance to settle it on the field, and we

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Speaker 3: We really felt that both sides had great playmakers, but.

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Speaker 4: Up front, I believe our guys had an opportunity to

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Speaker 4: render the best performance against their offensive line that's ever

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Speaker 4: been greated I believe on PFF and that's that's a

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Speaker 4: tremendous accomplishment, you know, because aside from us, they had

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Speaker 4: some really good statistical data. But both sides of the

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Speaker 4: that we never trailed, and really proud of our guys

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Speaker 4: being rewarded for doing so so.

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame also played a couple group of five teams.

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Speaker 1: They played three teams that were two and ten. Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame had some bad teams. They played a three and

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Speaker 2: You didn't you know you had you?

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, everybody in college football places faces the

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Speaker 2: Are how are you playing?

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Speaker 1: I've said before, my first takeaway was about two weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: I said, well, I don't know. I think maybe Notre

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Speaker 1: I can't do that. Miami's playing the best they played.

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Speaker 1: Carson Beck is playing really good. If this team right now,

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Speaker 1: your Miami team played your Miami team eight weeks ago,

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Speaker 3: Oh, this team would win right now.

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Speaker 4: You know, Notre Dame was faired in the first game

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Speaker 4: as well, you know, as it relates to that kind

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Speaker 3: Number one.

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Speaker 4: Of course, everyone seemed Malachi Tony and just he's exploded

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Speaker 3: We're healthy.

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Speaker 4: You know, in the middle of the season, we were

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Speaker 4: So I don't there's not a single metric where we

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Speaker 4: We feel like, so again, we're a better team now

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Speaker 1: So Mario, I've always said, I want to see your

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Speaker 1: wins everybody has a bad game. I mean Alabama last year,

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Speaker 1: didn't think the SMU game was a bad loss. They're

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Speaker 2: So I didn't look at that.

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Speaker 1: Go back to the SMU game because it was a

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Speaker 4: What happened, Yeah, we turned the ball over and we

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Speaker 4: lost an overtime, you know, a really controversial.

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Speaker 3: Situation at the end, over down a good amount of starters.

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Speaker 4: You have to overcome that, and we understand that and

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Speaker 4: we own it and we move forward. And that's why,

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Speaker 4: you know, when people speak of the totality of a resume,

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Speaker 4: it's important to show that, you know, that's a good

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Speaker 4: we had an opportunity to play four common opponents and

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Speaker 4: in all four games, right, and three of those games,

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Speaker 4: I should say our results were significantly more impressive and

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Speaker 4: more dominant than the Notre Dames. And of course the

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Speaker 4: most important part, like we played man, we won, you know,

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Speaker 3: So and never in.

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Speaker 4: History, never in history of the CFP has have two

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Speaker 4: teams that had a head to head and never once

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Speaker 4: been held back. So I just like my job is

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Speaker 4: to keep presenting information, you know, because I don't. I

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Speaker 4: But honestly, I'll be honest with you. I've known you

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Speaker 4: for a while. I wouldn't even come on your show

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Speaker 4: if we had lost that game. And I was now

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Speaker 4: trying to contest the fact that, hey, we're better if

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Like no, I mean one of the great arguments that

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Speaker 1: has not been discussed, and I think we did today.

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame played six awful defenses, they played one great defense, yours,

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Speaker 1: and they couldn't run the football at all with an

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Speaker 5: And I like Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: I think Marcus is terrific. I think they're great for

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about how do we fix it?

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Speaker 1: So when the NFL had the heads number one, I

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Speaker 1: think common Opponents does matter is too, is there? I mean,

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Speaker 1: the ACC goes a big picture how do we solve

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Speaker 1: the college football ranking? Urban Meyer says, get rid of

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Speaker 1: the committee, Just get get rid of it. Do you

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Speaker 2: How you fix it?

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Speaker 4: I know that every year it seems like college football

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Speaker 4: And like you mentioned, the head to head has always

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Speaker 4: over the past three years total, Well, you have coaches

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Speaker 4: that are playing in the postseason but are being introduced

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Speaker 4: value and the importance of winning, because at the end

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Speaker 4: after all the work, all the craziness they've gone through.

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Speaker 4: If they're not rewarded for winning, then the sport itself,

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Speaker 4: I think, is in a real bad place.

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Speaker 1: Well, you got the best freshman in Tony. You have

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Speaker 1: the best edge rusher. I would argue your defensive line

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Speaker 1: think Carson Beck, it's hard to be an nil player.

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Speaker 1: Like when Caleb Williams started making money in Carson Beck.

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Speaker 1: I want you to talk about that because I thought

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Speaker 1: it was hard for Caleb. Everybody in the locker room

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Speaker 1: to talk about Carson Beck goes to Miami. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of money. I think it's hard on players. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you become like an influencer and a star. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about Carson Beck and his maturity this year.

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Speaker 4: You know it is if you let it. You know,

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Speaker 4: at the end of the day, the guy's an unbelievable

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Speaker 4: and you know what he's invested in. He's invested in

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Speaker 4: want to win this award. He could give a rats

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Speaker 4: you know what about that stuff? Brother, He wants to win.

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Speaker 4: He wants to see his teammates do well. And he's

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Speaker 4: a likable guy because he works his butt off. I

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Speaker 4: mean relentlessly works his butt off. He's been through a lot.

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Speaker 4: After getting know him for the past year, I think

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Speaker 4: he's the most misunderstood guy I've ever been around. The

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Speaker 4: guy's an absolute stud. And I'm telling right now, and

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Speaker 4: I won't waste your time on the show. I'll send

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Speaker 4: you the metrics. There's no one playing at the level

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Speaker 4: he's playing at right now, and he's got our offense absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Y LEVYCC and completion percentage. I think it was seventy

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Speaker 1: four and a half percent, seventy five percent. Your team's

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Speaker 1: gotten better. You know, I've said this before. I brought

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Speaker 1: Sark on this week and I said, I think has

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Speaker 1: an argument. I think Miami's has the argument in college football,

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it just happens where you schedule a bunch of teams,

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Speaker 1: and Notre Dame did, and a lot of them were awful,

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Speaker 1: and they have crushed many of them. But they did

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Speaker 4: Well, it starts with my son. One day he tells me,

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Speaker 3: Their quarterback goes down.

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Speaker 4: He goes in that quarterback and they win every game

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Speaker 4: And anyways, we sign him and from day one, from

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Speaker 3: He's an old school Miami Hurricane.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely by the way, I don't know what you're doing,

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Speaker 3: You gotta be moving. I mean, it's night in a

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Speaker 2: A good thing, all right, Good scenior coach.

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Speaker 3: Great senior man. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: You bet. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's an excellent business. So Mario Christobaul joining us Jamak

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Speaker 6: This is the herd line news.

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Speaker 9: All right, let's go to the World Cup six months away, Colin,

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Speaker 9: and we've got our group for the United States. In

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Speaker 9: Group D, the US will face Paraguay, Australia and the

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Speaker 9: The match has been announced USA Paraguay at so Fi yep,

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Speaker 5: I already alerted the family.

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Speaker 9: Hey, I don't want to hear we're going anywhere that

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Speaker 9: weekend where we're going to USA Paraguay, hopefully Colin. I

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Speaker 9: haven't seen odds yet. We should be the favorites in

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Speaker 9: this in this group, we should advance down here. I

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Speaker 9: don't want to get ahead of myself, but that's what

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Speaker 9: we do in sports. If they win this group, they

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Speaker 9: will play July one, I'm told in Santa Clara.

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Speaker 5: So we could go ahead and book an Airbnb.

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Speaker 7: If you'd like.

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Speaker 9: Because the US is winning this group, we will advance

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Speaker 9: and we will play. I believe the third place team advancing.

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Speaker 9: If the US does not advance somehow, let's not even

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Speaker 9: let's not even do, let's not be Let's say keep

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Speaker 9: a positive.

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Speaker 2: How good was that Trump? Shack, Wayne Gretskin, Aaron Judge.

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Speaker 9: Say, hedy Klum was there? Come on, that's the biggest star.

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Speaker 9: Oh my gosh, Kdylum turning back the clock. But Kevin

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Speaker 9: Hart as well, a big, great comedian. But in all seriousness, Usa.

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Speaker 9: We got six months of repara colin no excuses. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: I mean at least two outright wins.

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Speaker 1: We are in a real transition period for our world's

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Speaker 1: of course they do, and especially because this World Cup

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Speaker 1: I looked at it as a success. All those guys

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Speaker 1: more playover in Europe, so I think it's a realistic

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Speaker 1: that we will not only win the stage, but this

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Speaker 5: We just have more skill.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, obviously, the World Cup is the greatest sporting event

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Speaker 9: every year that it happens. It's tremendous. I cannot I

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Speaker 5: I mean, Colin. People forget like the World Cup is unbelievable,

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Speaker 5: like the last one was. I remember. Obviously Messi finally

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Speaker 1: This will break every record in the history of our country,

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Speaker 1: shatter them. You will see Super Bowl Plus ratings, This

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Speaker 1: will shatter every sports rating, not only soccer. But my

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Speaker 9: Oh no, without a doubt. I can't wait USA favorable

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Speaker 9: I'm sure next week. But very excited for the World Cup.

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Speaker 9: All right, let's move on to the forty nine ers

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Speaker 9: and your guy, Robert Sala. You're you're basically his agent

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Speaker 9: now saying he should get a job instantly. He's already

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Speaker 3: I'm not thinking about it, Joe. I know you probably

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Speaker 3: Love New York, love the fan base, love all of

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Speaker 9: I can't imagine that he's gonna go back to the Giants.

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Speaker 9: Do you think there's any way that they bring him

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Speaker 2: Well, he'd be motivated.

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Speaker 1: I mean, remember he got fired as he was going

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Speaker 5: Pathetic Woody Johnson, a total joke of an owner.

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Speaker 9: Come in, all sirs, Robert Sala, Listen, the schedule's favorable

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Speaker 5: Don't rule out a top two seed for them in

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Speaker 1: Car Oh, I know it's listen, legitimately in play, and

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Speaker 5: You and what Sala has done missing like I don't

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Speaker 2: They gotta buy, and they gotta buy. This week perfect

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Speaker 9: A Bias clutch Niners and Patriots quote with the late bye,

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Speaker 9: all right, Finals stroy con for the first time in

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Speaker 9: the playoffs. This is for a sure fire number one

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Speaker 9: overall seed. Definite by Kurt Signetti. The Indiana coach is

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Speaker 9: taking this game as a measuring stick.

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Speaker 7: To alex Ohio State's and the league of their own

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Speaker 7: of it is their tradition. They're winning history when all

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Speaker 7: Are we closing that gap?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're closing that gap.

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Speaker 7: And what would a successful performance do on Saturday, Well,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think Kurt Signetti is being keeping

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Speaker 1: roster has far more NFL players. Both staffs are excellent,

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Speaker 1: Both quarterbacks are phenomenal. I think Mendoza is the best

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Speaker 9: I like saying to Colin. He's listed at six to' one.

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Speaker 9: Talk to any of the big Newon guys, there's no

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Speaker 9: I know he's a great college quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Let's pump the brakes on him as a pro prospect.

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Speaker 9: I do want to ask you, this should be a layup.

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Speaker 9: Who's under the most pressure in this game, Ohio State

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Speaker 5: It's one player. It should be pretty easy.

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Speaker 9: Well, it's got to be Mendoza. Right, he's facing the

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Speaker 9: the number one NFL quarterback prospect. This is the Oregon game.

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Speaker 9: I mean you watched it, right, Like Oregon kind of

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Speaker 9: and there's gonna be you know, twenty million viewers saying

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Speaker 5: Come oh, come on, it's scary.

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Speaker 1: They're off secondary and that they're back seven lights out.

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Speaker 9: So their offense, I think Klatt had the number. They

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Speaker 9: slowly choke you out, kind of like an anaconda, you know,

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Speaker 9: squeezes you out. And I don't know how Indiana wins this.

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Speaker 9: I'm on the Buckeyes minus four and a half.

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Speaker 2: Sam so am I I like Ohio State to win

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Speaker 2: by a touchdown or more. J Mack with the news.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's not waste any time. I took a

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Speaker 1: lot of dogs this week and a lot of corner

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Speaker 1: TV games. J Mack has been a living off that

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Speaker 1: for years. He loves ugly football. I look at his

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Speaker 1: picks right now. Let's not waste any time. We call

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Speaker 1: it tomorrow's headlines today and let's roll it. Okay, commanders

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Speaker 1: at Viking's gonna be as stink a'rony.

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Speaker 2: You're all over one side. Where are you leaning?

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Speaker 1: Listen?

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Speaker 5: You go four and one. You feel comfortable picking some

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Speaker 5: gross dogs.

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Speaker 9: The headline for Vikings commanders on Sunday will be stairway

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Speaker 9: to Kevin Vikings shred north for the winter. Give me

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Speaker 9: Minnesota here. I think there's a great spot for Jane J.

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Speaker 9: McCarthy to return.

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Speaker 2: Colin.

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Speaker 5: I puted this out. This week they played seven playoff

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Speaker 5: teams in a row.

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Speaker 9: Okay, good teams they're getting after McCarthy. Now you step

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Speaker 9: down in class to face Washington, near the bottom of

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Speaker 9: the league in pressure rate.

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Speaker 5: And I do believe this is an opportunity for McCarthy

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Speaker 5: to flourish actually.

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Speaker 9: Against Washington, a secondary that you know bo Nick's had

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Speaker 9: his way with them last week. We've seen people attack

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Speaker 9: Washington through the air. Secondary is just.

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Speaker 5: Not very good.

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Speaker 9: Justin Jefferson, little chirpie. This week, what do you think happens?

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Speaker 9: Justin Jeffersons going to get force fed. And I also

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Speaker 9: want to add that when you look at this Vikings defense,

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Speaker 9: what does Brian Flora's do call Dow's up pressure and

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Speaker 9: blitzing at the highest rate in the league. Nobody blitzes

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Speaker 9: more than him. I still don't understand why Washington's trotting

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Speaker 9: out Jayden Daniels. There's a real injury risk here. We

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Speaker 9: saw flora As last week. Get after Sam Darnold, give

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Speaker 9: him a lot of trouble, so I would be if

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Speaker 9: I'm Washington fan. I'm holding my breath watching Jayden Daniels

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Speaker 9: running for his life.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today Corner TV game Paine to the Buccaneers.

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Speaker 5: Come on, this a divisional matchup.

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Speaker 9: So much drama here, not really the headline for Bucks

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Speaker 9: and the Saints will be aw shucks, Saints pray for

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Speaker 9: new offense. Give me Tampa here, big number. We're on

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Speaker 9: Tampa in the Survivor. I got Tampa every which way here, Colin,

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Speaker 9: I know the Saints covered last week in Miami. Do

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Speaker 9: you remember watching any of that? Every time you look

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Speaker 9: at the screen, the Saints can't do anything. It was

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Speaker 9: sixteen nothing for two of decides. Oh, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 9: start screwing around and throwing the ball to the other team. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 9: you got Rakhee Morris here, who listen. I just think

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Speaker 9: this Tampa defense should give Shucks a lot of problems.

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Speaker 9: I think Baker Mayfield who should have an opportunity through

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Speaker 9: the air.

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Speaker 5: And this is just a Tampa team that really hasn't

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Speaker 5: been clicking on all cylinders lately. They've kind of been sputtering.

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Speaker 9: Remember the early start, there was some MVP chatter right

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Speaker 9: for Baker Mayfield. I think they put it all together here.

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Speaker 9: They have dominated this series. We've won six to seven

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Speaker 9: against the Saints. Kellen Moore and company. Don't like the

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Speaker 9: Saints here, give me the Bucks.

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Speaker 1: Big Tomorrow's headlines today, I think we're on the same

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Speaker 1: side here. Dolphins at your suddenly Pasky New York Jets, Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, quietly the Jets, they've covered the spread or pushed.

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Speaker 5: In the last five games.

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Speaker 9: People don't notice that because they're losing a lot of them.

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Speaker 9: The headline for Jets Dolphins will be it's all or nothing.

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Speaker 9: Finns receive a brief and desist. I'm going against the

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Speaker 9: Dolphins here. Hey, it's cold weather, it's December.

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Speaker 5: Are you ready for this?

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Speaker 9: Tua in December three and eight in his career, the

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Speaker 9: weather gets cold, he's got to go outdoors.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we talked about this, like they just don't

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Speaker 5: perform well.

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Speaker 9: The team from South Beach now Tua, to his credit,

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Speaker 9: is six and zero against the Jets, never lost to

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Speaker 9: a but this shows the Jets dysfunction. In those six matchups,

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Speaker 9: he's faced five different quarterbacks. I mean, the Jets can't

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Speaker 9: get their act together. But now enter Ty God Taylor,

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Speaker 9: the covering machine seven oho to one against the spread

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Speaker 9: in his last eight starts. I think the Jets moved

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Speaker 9: the ball. I think Breese does it on the ground.

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Speaker 9: I think the Jets special teams could be the difference.

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Speaker 9: Their special teams have been excellent. Nick Folk, give me

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Speaker 9: the Jets here winning outright?

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Speaker 1: Yep, you and I tomorrow's headlines today. I almost pull

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Speaker 1: the trigger on this, almost, but I didn't. Bears in

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Speaker 1: Green Bay to face the Packers.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been a charm season for the Bears. They've

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Speaker 5: been amazing.

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Speaker 9: Beat the Eagles number one in the NFL and turnover

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Speaker 9: margin colin plus seventeen.

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Speaker 5: Amazing. But the headline for Packers Bears this week will

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Speaker 5: be burnt ends.

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Speaker 9: Green Bay hosts Bear big cue kickoff Matt Lafleur. Colin

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Speaker 9: one of the best coaches in the league in December

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Speaker 9: twenty and four. Wow, straight up in the month of December.

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Speaker 9: He's great at the adjustments. He is from that Belichick

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Speaker 9: school of thought. Let's tinker early in the season. When

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Speaker 9: I saw the Jordan Love interviews this week about the

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Speaker 9: trash talk, jokingly from Bed Johnson, Jordan Love is so

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Speaker 9: locked in Colin, they're still waiting word today. We're gonna

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Speaker 9: find out if Golden and Jayden Reid will will play.

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Speaker 2: I though they are big, big get back, they think

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Speaker 2: they may play.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they're practicing. It looks good.

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Speaker 9: Packers have owned the Bears. They've won eleven of twelve.

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Speaker 9: The key number here is sacks for Caleb Williams. When

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Speaker 9: he's sacked in his career three or more times. They're

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Speaker 9: just three and ten. They're very susceptible. And remember Green

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Speaker 9: Bay's gonna pressure with four Micah on the stunts. They'll

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Speaker 9: just shit back in exotic defenses and kind of mess

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Speaker 9: with Caleb and his cadence.

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Speaker 5: I don't think the.

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Speaker 9: Bears run that well in this one. Give me the

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Speaker 9: Packers winning and covering. I'll go like twenty seven to thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Finally, tomorrow's headlines today, you haven't liked the Chiefs all year.

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Speaker 2: I doubt you'll love them now, what say you?

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Speaker 9: Well, you know there's all these every week at something

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Speaker 9: with the Chiefs. Can they beat the Colts?

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Speaker 5: Then I say no? And then they beat them? But

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Speaker 5: the Colts covered Texans. This is the season for k C. Colin.

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Speaker 5: The headline will be.

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Speaker 9: With ends not open. Case can't get their Creed to crank.

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Speaker 9: Now I'm not a fan of Creed, but the staff

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Speaker 9: loves Creed. I know you love with arms wide open.

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Speaker 9: I don't think it happens for Case.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 5: I'm going with the Houston Texans. But the Chiefs whole

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Speaker 5: line is a mess.

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Speaker 9: Three starters they haven't been officially out, but we know

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Speaker 9: simmons On and I are Tray Smith unlikely to go,

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Speaker 9: and then the other tackle unlikely to play. That's bad

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Speaker 9: news against Hunter and will Anderson. Now everybody knows that, right,

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Speaker 9: So what are the Chiefs gonna do? Gonna do the

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Speaker 9: short passes? Colin Stingley is performing at an unbelievable rate.

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Speaker 9: They don't have Lassiter this week, which is a big loss.

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Speaker 9: But I just think other than those short crossers. What

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Speaker 9: is Mahomes gonna do? He had time in the pocket

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Speaker 9: against Dallas, couldn't deliver. He was under pressure. Now the

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Speaker 9: weather in this one, it looks like it's gonna be

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Speaker 9: in the twenties Sunday night. Not great obviously, that's Kansas

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Speaker 9: any Chiefs weather. But if Woody Marx can play the

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Speaker 9: Chubb Marx combo, I think should get some track shit

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Speaker 9: on the ground. Chiefs run game has not been there

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Speaker 9: all season. It's been a bugaboo. I'm going Texans outright,

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Speaker 9: and this is like one of those after the game,

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Speaker 9: plant a flag in the middle of the field.

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Speaker 5: The Texans just killed a dynasty.

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Speaker 2: All right, great stuff from Jamak.

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Speaker 1: We both like the Jets, and we tend generally if

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Speaker 1: you and I like a side, we do pretty well

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Speaker 1: on that. United States men's national team. It is official.

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Speaker 1: The odds to win the World Cup are plus twenty

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Speaker 1: sixty six hundred.

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Speaker 2: They're in Group D.

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Speaker 1: They will be favored over Paraguay, Australia and the winner

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Speaker 1: of playoffs seed. That's a several countries Kosovo, Slovakia, Romania,

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Speaker 1: and Turkey. Turkey maybe the best of that group. It's

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Speaker 1: a pretty favorable group. Would you say, oh, certainly US

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Speaker 1: should win this. I don't want to say handily, because

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Speaker 1: nothing's ever easy for this team. But you said they're

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Speaker 1: plus sixty six hundred to win it. Wow, I would

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Speaker 1: bet on that. I mean, I think they could.

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Speaker 9: A reasonable expectation would be quarterfinals and then I think

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Speaker 9: semifinals is an absolute home run.

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Speaker 5: Because you remember the last.

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Speaker 9: Time we hosted the World Cup, we ended up facing

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Speaker 9: Brazil on I believe July fourth, in a memorable game.

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Speaker 9: Lallas can talk to you for hours about that. But

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Speaker 9: we're gonna show up at home calling We're gonna have

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Speaker 9: the home field advantage.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 5: It's going to be a scene here, man. I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: And you know, if you look at the history of

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Speaker 1: United States men's national team soccer, when we face the

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Speaker 1: elite teams, we play more of a defensive brand, which

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Speaker 1: is Italy's always been known for that. We don't play

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Speaker 1: the attacking Argentina Brazil style. And the reason is we can't.

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Speaker 1: We can't go to to toe. We have to play

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Speaker 1: a defensive style, get great goaltending, and then you know,

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Speaker 1: try to get a goal late. That's not the case

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Speaker 1: with this team. I mean, this team's got players who

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Speaker 1: are flourishing overseas. Now, maybe we can't go Argentina to

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Speaker 1: to toe track meet, but I do think we will

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Speaker 1: be more aggressive than previous World Cups. I thought the

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Speaker 1: last World Cup we were talented, but we were the

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Speaker 1: second youngest team. So our guys now we have a

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Speaker 1: majority of our players. And this really is true for

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Speaker 1: the NBA. I mean, the reason OKAC is so good

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Speaker 1: is all their best players are either in their prime

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Speaker 1: or entering it.

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Speaker 2: That matters.

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Speaker 1: Golden State's got good players. You know, Steph and Draymond

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Speaker 1: are way out of their plant prime. So I think

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Speaker 1: our players, our top six or seven players are either

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Speaker 1: going into their prime here or they're in it. And

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Speaker 1: so I think athletically, I think we're I think we

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Speaker 1: are a fast, athletic attacking group. And I think very

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Speaker 1: rarely do we go into a group stage and think

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Speaker 1: we're we have the best roster.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's fair to think right now.

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Speaker 9: And the World Cup at large is going to be amazing.

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Speaker 9: It sounds like Messi and Ronaldo are both's going to

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Speaker 9: play like that's amazing.

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Speaker 5: Colleges they retire.

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Speaker 1: This is the first World Cup expansion from is it

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Speaker 1: thirty two to forty eighteen ys, So you're going to

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Speaker 1: have more countries and that may mean.

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Speaker 2: A little easier route perhaps for some.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've advanced to the round of sixteen and

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Speaker 1: three of the four last four World Cups.

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Speaker 2: We'll see a Monday. It's the herd