WEBVTT - Canada Convoy Update 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:13.000 Oh Macrown, great timing. M hmm, I love oh man. 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:15.160 I'm Robert Evans. This is it could happen here a 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:24.480 podcast about Greek numbering schemas. Garrison, what do you? What 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:25.639 do you? How do you? How do you feel about? 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:28.680 Oh macron? This has nothing to do with the topic 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:32.680 we're talking about. So this is this is an update. 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:37.560 A few of right last week were earlier this week 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:42.839 we discussed the uh the truck or scheduled our episode 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:45.960 recorded before the truck convoy for after the truck convoy 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:48.640 had already done a bunch of things, which was really good. 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:53.920 So we we recorded to talk about the trucks that 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:56.400 were that we're going to show up at Ottawa and 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:01.360 thing things did happen? Maybe not that not because like 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.040 I've been listening some of their claims or like an 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:06.000 Alex Jones is parenting there now that it was like 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:08.840 eight hundred thousand to a million truckers and there's three 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:13.480 hundred thousand truckers in all of Canada, like but it 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:14.760 was like it was like it was a lot of 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:18.040 people like not to not to downplay what happened. So 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:20.440 we're to give an update on what happened there and 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:23.000 kind of discussed maybe any ramifications that stuff like this 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:26.000 could have going forward. But to help with that, um, 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:30.280 we have Dan who came on last time to help 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:33.200 discuss Hello, thank you for coming on again to talk 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:36.319 about the same thing. Thank you for having me. We 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:40.080 last less off with you saying that you hope I 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:42.600 don't come back on again, because that would be a 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:44.920 good thing and it would mean that the bad things 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:50.240 did not happen. So sorry to be here under such circumstances. Yeah, 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:54.559 you want to go over the bad Yeah, So let's 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:57.680 let's briefly do like a recap of like what this 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:00.520 thing was like, like why why was it happening, and 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:03.440 like what was the idea. When we last left Canada, 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:05.680 a bunch of truckers were angry that they had to 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:10.680 present evlations evidence of vaccination. This spiraled and, as I'm 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:16.840 understanding it, at some point them rejecting all public health measures. Yes, actually, 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:20.919 the the exact demands are for the federal and provincial 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:24.320 governments to quote terminate the vaccine passports and all other 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:30.000 obligatory obligatory vaccine contact tracing programs UH, to terminate COVID 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:34.079 vaccine mandates UH, and quote respect the rights of those 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:37.360 who wish to remain unvaccinated. Uh And here's where it 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:41.320 gets weird. Uh see a good devisive rhetoric attacking Canadians 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:43.919 who disagree with government mandates. Kind of hard to say 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:47.640 when that one's fulfilled and finally ceased to limit debate 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:50.919 through coercive measures with the goal of censoring those who 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:55.400 have varying or incorrect opinions. That's what the convoys for. 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.360 I mean, do you all know what a government is? 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:08.600 Evidently I was at some debates with the state that 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:10.480 went a lot uglier than it looks like this. One 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:14.720 went oh yeah, yeah, we we we can talk about that. 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:18.400 This this the standoff has been well, there's been just that, 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:22.919 it's been a standoff in that regard. So it seems 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:25.440 like they've kind of hooligan around a bunch of towns 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:29.359 and threatened a homeless shelter if they didn't give them 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:34.320 food and that left trash everywhere, and set up a 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:37.080 checkpoint on the border, or just a blockade on the border. 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:39.839 I think it's probably more accurate. There's been blockades going 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:42.680 on and up the border. I think the most noteworthy 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:45.240 is an Alberta and coop right now, but I might 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:47.640 be pronouncing that wrong. And what was the police It 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:49.440 was something along the lines of we don't think there's 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:52.240 like a policing solution to this problem. Oh yeah, so 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:57.840 you're totally up to date that that happened today. Yeah, 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:03.520 so a little after two on lafter two pm today, 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:06.560 the Ottawa Police Chief Peter Slowly said in a press 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:09.600 conference that quote, there may not be a policing solution 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:15.880 to this demonstration. Is it really that easy? It's evidently 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:19.680 it's that easy if you wait till kind of like 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.480 the media has had a few days and most of 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:27.640 the coverage is just like breaking bad things still happening. 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:32.479 Uh so it's it's not great. So what what was 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:34.719 the lead up on set? Right? Because they were all 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:36.839 they were all all the trucks and caravans and stuff. 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:39.479 We're supposed to live on Saturday? What was the lead 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:41.800 up on Saturday? Like and like what what what happened 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:47.000 like the actual like first day? Yeah, so Saturday was 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:51.000 technically the first day, actually Friday. Throughout the day a 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:54.400 lot of people started arriving. So the occupation has been 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:59.760 we're recording now Wednesday. Um, it started on Friday and 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:03.880 and the main like the largest contingent of the convoy 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:06.800 was staying overnight Friday night in a nearby town called 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:10.200 Armfire west of Ottawa, and they moved in from our 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:14.760 empire to Ottawa on Saturday morning. At the same time, 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:18.760 people converged from other parts of Canada. Um to Ottawa's 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:22.800 east is Quebec and to Quebec's east of the Maritime provinces, 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:27.360 and three thousand people at least came from Quebec and 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:30.800 met with the convoy to on Saturday, kind of coming 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:33.039 in from different parts. The day between Friday night and 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:36.480 Saturday afternoon and Saturday was kind of the big day, 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:41.520 the big party. UH. The main point of contention and 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:44.800 the main thing that happened was some major streets are 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:48.200 gridlocked by vehicles moving into the city into the very 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:51.640 crowded core of Ottawa, my hometown and staying stationary on 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:55.200 busy roads. Both commercial and residential roads are part of this. 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:58.680 Driveways for both businesses and residences were blocked off. Fire 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.200 roads were blocked off, and Owen's routes are blocked off. 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:05.960 Local businesses that stayed open had to close throughout the 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:11.000 day Saturday, largely UH. Some managed to not and many 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:13.039 of you just stayed closed already because they knew what 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:17.360 was going to happen, and this happened. Closures that happened 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.600 on Saturday are mostly still going on today as I'm 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:24.040 speaking to you. Wednesday night, UH closures followed patterns of harassment, 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:27.520 some alleged assaults which Robert mentioned before, else happened at 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:31.839 a homeless shelter in downtown Ottawa, and pretty much everyone 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:35.200 I've spoken to, I've I've been in Ottawa, visiting it 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:38.279 to my hometown, and pretty much ever what I've spoken 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:39.839 to who lives in the downtown core is that a 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.480 slew of story since Saturday of either harassment at work 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.400 or just harassment walking through the streets. And the worst 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:47.120 part of it all is that right now there's not 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:58.640 a clear ending in sight. What is it like on 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:01.000 the ground there in terms of you know, there's like 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.520 kind of like a blockade around the border. They're like, 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:06.920 what else is like around Ottawa? What's like what like 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:09.279 what what is what's it like to walk around in 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:11.400 these places? And like how big is the area that 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:13.680 these people are staying at? Like where are they staying at? 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:16.240 Are they all sleeping in their trucks. Who staying at hotels, 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.280 what's like what's like the It's an excellent question. There's 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:21.480 a there's a mix of hotels were booked up the 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:24.480 week leading up to the weekend, as as the new 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:27.360 cycle kind of exploded, more and more people called into 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:29.960 hotels in Ottawa. A lot of people actually brought tractors. 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:33.640 People are also sleeping in their trucks. Uh. Of course, 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:36.160 people have like family and stuff staying in Ottawa. Sometimes 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:42.120 they're staying with them. Um, it's a mix of everything. Actually, 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:44.160 I know a guy who even his car was like 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.720 blocked off in the parking lot. He has to parking 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:50.280 because he's downtown. He doesn't have street parking or driveway parking, 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:52.880 like it's in a public lot. And he couldn't get 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:56.200 his car out for over a full day because an 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:58.760 RV camper set up near him and just blocked him off. 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:04.360 So it's a mix of everything. Uh. Starting on Saturday, 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:06.800 there's like a lot of partying, a lot of music, 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:09.400 a lot of kids. Uh. It's gotten a little bit 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:12.880 more chaotic and less condensed since then. And also the 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:16.640 area is hard to gauge because streets are actually constantly 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:20.920 as vehicles move out for one reason or another. Streets 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:24.200 are kind of being retaken back organically by the city, 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:27.320 but then sometimes throughout the day getting retaken again back 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:29.640 by the convoy. So the occupation has been a little 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.120 fluid on some of the outside streets. Wellington's Street, which 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:34.680 is the street outside of Parliament in Ottawa, has been 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:40.440 consistently occupied, to my knowledge, blocking off kind of not 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.680 actually blocking off, but you have to walk past them 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:46.480 as a pedestrian to get onto Parliament Hill. So that's 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:48.360 where the kind of the core is, the action of 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:50.280 the action is, and everything else spreads out from that 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:53.760 and near hotels, Uh, there's a little more action because 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:58.160 that's generally where people are staying. How has members of 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:02.520 Parliament and like local Poul Titian has been reacting since Saturday? 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:04.440 I know there was there was some videos of like 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:08.080 I think one of the MP's from Alberta was giving 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:12.160 an interview that gained some traction online. Um, but yeah, 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.120 it's kind of curious, like how the like different government 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:18.240 officials are talking about this. I'm actually so glad you 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:23.640 asked that because as of today, the divide in members 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:28.120 of Parliament has actually led to some pretty incredible political ramifications. 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:31.079 So last time we spoke, I think Aaron O'Toole had 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:34.080 just earlier in the day endorsed compoints that he'd be 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:37.319 coming down. Erin o't tool, for those unaware, is the 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.600 leader of the Conservative Party of Canada. He's a real 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:49.640 real otool. Wow, whoa whoa mind blowan, no one, no 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:55.720 one could have seen that joke coming. Every every Canadian 0:09:55.720 --> 0:10:01.640 listener just like collectively mold. Yeah. So aeronauts tool and 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:05.600 just endorse the convoy. He'd been getting some tough questions 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:10.680 about it. Following everything we just talked about and more, 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:14.599 aeronots will walk that back and said, you know, he 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:16.839 didn't approve of the way that the convoy was acting 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:19.400 in Ottawa. This led to a swift referendum on his 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.760 leadership and earlier today Aeronot Tool was voted out as 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:27.840 the Conservative Party leader in Canada. And that does have 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:31.000 pretty big ramifications. I know. I talked about Erino Tool 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:34.840 a decent amount in my previous Canada episodes for cadapp 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:38.120 and here. Um, so yeah, that'll be really interesting to see. 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:41.640 Who uh what's do you have any idea of when 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.520 the new person is going to try to get voted it. Like, 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:48.160 when when do you think that process is going to 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:51.079 happen to fill that spot. I'm actually not sure. I 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:53.960 haven't looked up when it's gonna happen. It feels like 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:56.320 there's been months before where there's an anti leaders of 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:59.800 the Conservative Party. The main concern right now for the 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:03.439 outside of Conservative politics is because erin o Tool was 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:07.160 considered relatively moderate. He talked about in the Fascism Canada 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:10.000 episode how erin O't tool kicked out Darren Sloan from 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:14.480 the party for being pretty coy on donations from neo 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:19.040 Nazi Paul Front on his campaign. Uh. Overall, like, that's 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.080 a pretty great thing, that Erino Tool that kicked him 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.720 out of the caucus, Like regardless of other elements of 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:29.920 that leadership. Uh, there's worrying that that kind of there 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:33.040 will be continued forward, especially because Sloan was also in 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:35.720 the leadership race and Sloan has only gotten further right 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:41.120 since then. Yeah, it is this despite Aerono tools not 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:44.800 great aspects, which there are lots of. He did he did, 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:47.400 he did take it. He did kind of hold back 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:55.120 some of the more problematic, uh conservative like elements, whether 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:57.640 that be you know, people from you know, from his 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.440 own party, like like Derek, and then I'll so keeping 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:04.160 kind of the people's party stuff at bay um. Yeah, 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:06.760 and that will be an interesting kind of power struggle. Now, 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:12.120 that will be something to observe. I think the thing 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:15.040 that concerns me most about all of this is the 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:19.319 implication of the implications for this is a tactic. We 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:22.040 saw a version of this that was more limited in 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:26.520 scope and time in Portland when this huge Trump caravan 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:30.440 rolled through downtown, blocked off big chunks of downtown and 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:34.080 like just maced and shot people with paintball guns at random, 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:36.800 and it was kind of like, I think everyone there 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:40.080 was surprised at how many folks they got for it. Um. 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:43.199 This is a much more evolved version of the same tactic, 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:45.120 and it's kind of stuff we talked about in season 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:47.160 one of it could happen here. This idea of like 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:52.000 people coming from these conservative majority areas in a place 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.640 where the vast majority of people are liberal but centralized 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:58.719 in the cities um and blocking those cities off or 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:04.439 otherwise disrupting their ability to transit UM, potentially their ability 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.240 to get things shipped in like food, UM, like their 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:10.480 ability to use free movement UM. And we've seen pieces 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:12.840 of this again in a bunch of places in Oregon 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:15.440 during the wildfires. You had these rural communities setting up 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:17.680 checkpoints and stuff, looking for people from the cities that 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:20.640 they could bill as Antifa. And it's this it's this 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:22.959 world worrying trend for a couple of reasons. Number One, 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:27.040 when you get ten people to do something like this, 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:29.280 even if the city has hundreds of thousands of people, 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:32.880 that's effectively too large a group to police UM. And 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.160 the police don't want to police it anyway, so there's 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:38.360 not even really an attempt to stop them. UM. And 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.320 it's a way in which the vast majority of Canada, 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:44.640 at least based on the polling I'm aware of, UM, 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:48.240 is not in support of the causes these guys are backing. 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:51.280 Was it like sevent of the country supports some level 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:55.160 of like vaccine mandates, UM, if I'm remembering correctly the 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:57.360 last one I read. So this is not a popular movement. 0:13:57.400 --> 0:13:59.760 It's not even super popular among the truckers. Like the 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:04.240 actual it doesn't matter how many people in the cities 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:06.760 you can get. If you can get fifty people to 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:10.040 do something like this, the police won't will not take action, 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:13.040 and you can negatively impact the lives of a huge 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:16.520 number of millions before it gets radical, right, That's when 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:19.280 these guys are not coming in with guns with the 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:22.680 express plan to eliminate people or trying to specifically block 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.840 up food. They're just kind of sucking around now. But 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.240 it's this kind of is this thing we've talked about 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:30.480 where you have this is the thing in Canada and 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.320 the United States, you had liberals kind of outsourcing the 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:36.760 protection of society to this group of increasingly heavily armed 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:39.880 and radicalized people who are now in a lot of 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:44.440 cases fascists. Um. And that means that when there's a 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:48.680 problem with a large chunk of people who hate everything 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:51.640 you stand for, the people that you have completely outsourced 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:55.040 protection to are all unfavor of fucking with you because 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:58.560 they hate you. And it's it's a problem in Oregon, 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:01.080 It's going to be a problem in fucking New York 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:05.160 City or whatever at some point. It's a problem in Ottawa. Um, 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:07.240 I don't know, am I am I off base? Here? 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:09.480 Am I am I? You're not on base at all? 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:13.000 And uh like there isn't there isn't anything to to 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:15.920 really elaborate on past what you said the last time 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:18.200 we spoke, I think, Robert, you said there's not a 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.960 whole lot. It was what you said that could really 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:24.360 really be done with the vehicle occupation tactic, and this 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:26.920 unless a lot of people are willing to meet them 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:31.160 with an equal force, which unfortunately Ottawa didn't have. Like 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:35.239 it's an Ottawas. Ottawa's a relatively large city in Canada's 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:37.320 there's over a million people that live here. It's also 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:40.000 by land mass, I think, the largest city in Canada, 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:42.280 like east to west. It's it's very spread out, so 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:45.240 it's a low population density. So even the affected area 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:50.600 downtown is actually like pretty small in relation to the 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.640 city itself, which is pretty unfortunate. And like it's not 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:57.680 a particularly packed downtown for a large downtown. I am. 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:02.840 I am curious kind of on the violent aspect um 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:07.560 has Like I know there's been like um of increase 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:11.120 in death threats to members of parliament, like specifically liberal 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:14.960 members of parliaments, specifically liberal members of parliament who are 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:19.800 women who are maybe not white. Um, so I would 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.160 curiously if if you have any more kind of information 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:25.640 on that side of things, and then how how violence 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.520 has popped up in a few places throughout the past 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:34.040 like a week. Basically, yeah, there's been a lot. So 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:37.520 I mean, even if you're going by what's reported, like 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:40.800 right now, there is by most estimates, under a thousand 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:43.320 maybe at most a few thousand, very fars spread out 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:46.160 people as part of the convoy. As of yesterday, there's 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:50.120 thirteen active police investigations. The police of the city, the 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:54.280 City of Ottawa said in the An Oppressor. We obviously 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:57.360 know when there's like thirteen active investigations in anything this big, 0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:02.680 there's way more that's not being reported, not being invest stigated. Um, 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:07.840 like they took you know, like these things are going 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.160 to thirteen is going to be resultful of something bad. 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:12.240 So some of the things that happened Robert mentioned before 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:15.840 the illegit assault on a houseless person inside of Shepherds 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:19.440 of Good Hope in which a security guard was also 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:23.359 called a racial slur. Uh. There was a house that 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:26.400 diplayed displayed a rainbow flag outside of it, that had 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:31.560 harassment and poop thrown at it. Um they have been 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:33.800 we need to get a hundred thousand people together to 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:36.119 throw their own poop back at these people. It's the 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:40.439 only way they'll learn. Yeah, fighting fire with fire is 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:44.480 that that expression? I'm sure just emerged from just tossing 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:48.640 poop at each other's strategy. It's meant for this. Yeah, 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:51.040 there's been suggestions all of our social media channels on 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:53.840 like here's how you can poop in snowbanks without getting caught. 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:58.040 Businesses have been harassed, the violenced, So like what I 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:02.000 think maybe some context that isn't always known. In Ottawa 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:06.080 on Saturday and until recently, dining in in restaurants wasn't allowed. 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:08.560 We were actually in a relatively strict lockdown following around 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:12.520 a chrown wave, and a lot of people even coming 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:14.840 like didn't know that. Like I spoke to people on 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:18.240 Saturday who were like, hey, do you know like when 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.680 the restaurants around here open so we can like sit 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:21.919 down for a meal. And I was like, there's no 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:23.720 sitting down on autous. So what people were doing they 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:26.080 were going inside cafees like two horns and stuff, and 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:28.200 they were just refusing to leave in eating their food 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:29.800 there anyways, and if there was no seats, they were 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:32.720 just like eating in line. It was also minus twenty 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:35.600 eight degrees in Ottawa on Saturday and very very cold 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:38.440 On Sunday there was an extreme cold weather warning, so 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:40.280 especially when people brought their kids, there wasn't a lot 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:42.480 of other options other than like swarm the malls and 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:44.480 swarm restaurants. And even then the mall, the main mall 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:47.840 downtown Rito Center was closed probably throughout the day because 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:51.800 it was not a safe place. So I already talked 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:56.679 before about routes getting blocked. Also not physical violence, but 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:59.879 honking has been keeping people awake. There's been endless honking 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:03.200 if you watch video footage from it, and even in 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:05.560 the background right now, I'm coming from Ottawa, like I 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:09.760 can hear honking in my background. Um, some people allegedly 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:12.880 parked and then urinated on the tomb of the Unknown Soldier, 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:20.960 which is yeah, this isn't political. Is even the wrong 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:23.160 way to describe a lot of the what's fun about 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:25.960 this for these people, it's that they suck. Yes, fucking 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:30.560 it's just coolly. It's just fucking cooliganism. Uh. And that's yeah, 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:34.040 it's it's fucking cooliganism. There's gonna be a lot more 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:38.760 stories coming out, for sure. Uh as things progress. Um 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:40.919 of stories of harrassment, Like I've talked to people who 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:44.680 have gotten a cat call in the night. People getting 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:48.760 violent altercations, street fights. I'm sure you're going to break out. 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:50.800 It's kind of at a very tense point right now. 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:52.760 And Auto we're at that point we're like, okay, we're 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:56.400 seeing some signs like pops getting thrown at the houses. 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:01.760 What's gonna happen next? Because the police are saying they 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:04.080 don't have a plan, and the truckers are saying they're 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:09.000 not leaving. What's it like outside of Bottawa, across across 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:12.000 all the other places where there's like similar activity happening. 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:15.200 They're all looking to us and being concerned. From what 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:19.480 I'm talking to, UH, anti fascists and Alberta are particularly 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:26.240 concerned right now with the goop protests. There's ongoing to UH. 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:30.800 It keeps seeing popping up like US Canada border activities 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:34.520 in the same there's a few attempted convoys by Americans 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:37.080 and even before in Europe there was a few attempts. 0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:39.480 Some got turned away, some Americans got turned away the 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:45.960 Canadian borders. They weren't vaccinated. M Yeah, which is you know, 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:50.520 like it's like you think, because that's the reason they're 0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:53.760 saying they're protesting, they would have remembered that and thought 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:57.480 maybe that's gonna like come into play, but I don't. Yeah, 0:20:57.480 --> 0:20:59.200 I don't know, because mean, there is a certain point 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:01.760 where if you get enough people going, it would be 0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:03.679 interesting to see people really do just try to like 0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:08.680 drive through the border. Yeah. Yeah, And I mean there's 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:10.800 been people like you look at social media channels, a 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:12.760 lot of them saying like the borders are blocked right 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:15.520 now with thousands of truckers supporting our cause. So if 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:17.000 you saw that and you believed it, and then you 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:18.879 went to the board and your turn away fading in vaccine, 0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:20.359 you meant thought, well, I thought I had you know, 0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:23.439 nine people the same causes being we're ready to use 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:25.920 for us, which begs the question, but what happens when 0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:29.680 you do exactly? I don't want to find out. Yeah, 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:33.640 that's yeah. That's the thing is like if if if 0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:35.920 they do, if they did have what they say they had, 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:38.040 would they just start doing those things and not even 0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:39.679 think about it and not even think about like the 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:43.200 politics of it. They're just doing it to do it. Yeah. 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:45.879 I should also mention too, we talked last time about 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:52.160 a Plaid Army slash Diaglon members comments. Uh, they were 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:55.800 broadcast on the news about doing another quote January six, 0:21:56.520 --> 0:21:58.399 uh and it came out the news to do was 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:00.399 first reported by Frank magazine and I think by the 0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:03.600 Canadian antiad network that he was arrested on fire up 0:22:03.640 --> 0:22:07.040 Striges and no a scotiap before coming here. Worth noting 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:10.480 he was reporting live on Info Wars on the Alex 0:22:10.560 --> 0:22:16.080 Jonestones on Saturday before this came out and Derek still coverage. Yeah, 0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:19.159 Derek Sloan and Ezrael Event were also on the same program. 0:22:19.200 --> 0:22:22.399 So I mentioned Info Wars before. That's that's great, That's 0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:34.800 what's going on there. Can you see any like beyond 0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:39.000 the conservative leadership? What other kind of political implications are 0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:42.440 people thinking about in Canada. It's really tense seeing what's 0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:45.199 gonna come for other cities. Also, Otto was expecting a 0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:48.880 second wave some other people in other places that kind 0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:50.119 of didn't think the first one is going to be 0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:52.200 huge success. We're saying, well now that it's an occupation, 0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:55.240 we're coming and police are even saying there's a second wave. 0:22:55.720 --> 0:22:59.200 It's a very tense place right now. We don't really 0:22:59.240 --> 0:23:03.840 know what to do. Community places are taking direct community 0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:07.320 members are talking about taking direct action. Because it's been 0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:09.600 so long. This isn't something that the city of Otta 0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:13.800 is particularly used to, unfortunately in my lifetime, and so 0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:17.440