1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Oh Macrown, great timing. M hmm, I love oh man. 2 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: I'm Robert Evans. This is it could happen here a 3 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: podcast about Greek numbering schemas. Garrison, what do you? What 4 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: do you? How do you? How do you feel about? 5 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: Oh macron? This has nothing to do with the topic 6 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: we're talking about. So this is this is an update. 7 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: A few of right last week were earlier this week 8 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: we discussed the uh the truck or scheduled our episode 9 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: recorded before the truck convoy for after the truck convoy 10 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: had already done a bunch of things, which was really good. 11 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: So we we recorded to talk about the trucks that 12 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: were that we're going to show up at Ottawa and 13 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: thing things did happen? Maybe not that not because like 14 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: I've been listening some of their claims or like an 15 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: Alex Jones is parenting there now that it was like 16 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: eight hundred thousand to a million truckers and there's three 17 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: hundred thousand truckers in all of Canada, like but it 18 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: was like it was like it was a lot of 19 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: people like not to not to downplay what happened. So 20 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: we're to give an update on what happened there and 21 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: kind of discussed maybe any ramifications that stuff like this 22 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: could have going forward. But to help with that, um, 23 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: we have Dan who came on last time to help 24 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: discuss Hello, thank you for coming on again to talk 25 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: about the same thing. Thank you for having me. We 26 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: last less off with you saying that you hope I 27 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: don't come back on again, because that would be a 28 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: good thing and it would mean that the bad things 29 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: did not happen. So sorry to be here under such circumstances. Yeah, 30 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 1: you want to go over the bad Yeah, So let's 31 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: let's briefly do like a recap of like what this 32 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: thing was like, like why why was it happening, and 33 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: like what was the idea. When we last left Canada, 34 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: a bunch of truckers were angry that they had to 35 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: present evlations evidence of vaccination. This spiraled and, as I'm 36 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: understanding it, at some point them rejecting all public health measures. Yes, actually, 37 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: the the exact demands are for the federal and provincial 38 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: governments to quote terminate the vaccine passports and all other 39 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: obligatory obligatory vaccine contact tracing programs UH, to terminate COVID 40 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: vaccine mandates UH, and quote respect the rights of those 41 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: who wish to remain unvaccinated. Uh And here's where it 42 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: gets weird. Uh see a good devisive rhetoric attacking Canadians 43 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: who disagree with government mandates. Kind of hard to say 44 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: when that one's fulfilled and finally ceased to limit debate 45 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: through coercive measures with the goal of censoring those who 46 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: have varying or incorrect opinions. That's what the convoys for. 47 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: I mean, do you all know what a government is? 48 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: Evidently I was at some debates with the state that 49 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: went a lot uglier than it looks like this. One 50 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: went oh yeah, yeah, we we we can talk about that. 51 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: This this the standoff has been well, there's been just that, 52 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: it's been a standoff in that regard. So it seems 53 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: like they've kind of hooligan around a bunch of towns 54 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: and threatened a homeless shelter if they didn't give them 55 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: food and that left trash everywhere, and set up a 56 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: checkpoint on the border, or just a blockade on the border. 57 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,839 Speaker 1: I think it's probably more accurate. There's been blockades going 58 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: on and up the border. I think the most noteworthy 59 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: is an Alberta and coop right now, but I might 60 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: be pronouncing that wrong. And what was the police It 61 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: was something along the lines of we don't think there's 62 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: like a policing solution to this problem. Oh yeah, so 63 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: you're totally up to date that that happened today. Yeah, 64 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: so a little after two on lafter two pm today, 65 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: the Ottawa Police Chief Peter Slowly said in a press 66 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: conference that quote, there may not be a policing solution 67 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: to this demonstration. Is it really that easy? It's evidently 68 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: it's that easy if you wait till kind of like 69 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: the media has had a few days and most of 70 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: the coverage is just like breaking bad things still happening. 71 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: Uh so it's it's not great. So what what was 72 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: the lead up on set? Right? Because they were all 73 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: they were all all the trucks and caravans and stuff. 74 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: We're supposed to live on Saturday? What was the lead 75 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: up on Saturday? Like and like what what what happened 76 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: like the actual like first day? Yeah, so Saturday was 77 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: technically the first day, actually Friday. Throughout the day a 78 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: lot of people started arriving. So the occupation has been 79 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: we're recording now Wednesday. Um, it started on Friday and 80 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: and the main like the largest contingent of the convoy 81 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: was staying overnight Friday night in a nearby town called 82 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: Armfire west of Ottawa, and they moved in from our 83 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: empire to Ottawa on Saturday morning. At the same time, 84 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: people converged from other parts of Canada. Um to Ottawa's 85 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: east is Quebec and to Quebec's east of the Maritime provinces, 86 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: and three thousand people at least came from Quebec and 87 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: met with the convoy to on Saturday, kind of coming 88 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: in from different parts. The day between Friday night and 89 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon and Saturday was kind of the big day, 90 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: the big party. UH. The main point of contention and 91 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: the main thing that happened was some major streets are 92 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: gridlocked by vehicles moving into the city into the very 93 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: crowded core of Ottawa, my hometown and staying stationary on 94 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: busy roads. Both commercial and residential roads are part of this. 95 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: Driveways for both businesses and residences were blocked off. Fire 96 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: roads were blocked off, and Owen's routes are blocked off. 97 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: Local businesses that stayed open had to close throughout the 98 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: day Saturday, largely UH. Some managed to not and many 99 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: of you just stayed closed already because they knew what 100 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: was going to happen, and this happened. Closures that happened 101 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: on Saturday are mostly still going on today as I'm 102 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: speaking to you. Wednesday night, UH closures followed patterns of harassment, 103 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: some alleged assaults which Robert mentioned before, else happened at 104 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: a homeless shelter in downtown Ottawa, and pretty much everyone 105 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: I've spoken to, I've I've been in Ottawa, visiting it 106 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: to my hometown, and pretty much ever what I've spoken 107 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: to who lives in the downtown core is that a 108 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: slew of story since Saturday of either harassment at work 109 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: or just harassment walking through the streets. And the worst 110 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: part of it all is that right now there's not 111 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: a clear ending in sight. What is it like on 112 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: the ground there in terms of you know, there's like 113 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: kind of like a blockade around the border. They're like, 114 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: what else is like around Ottawa? What's like what like 115 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: what what is what's it like to walk around in 116 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: these places? And like how big is the area that 117 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: these people are staying at? Like where are they staying at? 118 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: Are they all sleeping in their trucks. Who staying at hotels, 119 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: what's like what's like the It's an excellent question. There's 120 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: a there's a mix of hotels were booked up the 121 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: week leading up to the weekend, as as the new 122 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: cycle kind of exploded, more and more people called into 123 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: hotels in Ottawa. A lot of people actually brought tractors. 124 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: People are also sleeping in their trucks. Uh. Of course, 125 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: people have like family and stuff staying in Ottawa. Sometimes 126 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: they're staying with them. Um, it's a mix of everything. Actually, 127 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: I know a guy who even his car was like 128 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: blocked off in the parking lot. He has to parking 129 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: because he's downtown. He doesn't have street parking or driveway parking, 130 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: like it's in a public lot. And he couldn't get 131 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: his car out for over a full day because an 132 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: RV camper set up near him and just blocked him off. 133 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: So it's a mix of everything. Uh. Starting on Saturday, 134 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: there's like a lot of partying, a lot of music, 135 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: a lot of kids. Uh. It's gotten a little bit 136 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: more chaotic and less condensed since then. And also the 137 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: area is hard to gauge because streets are actually constantly 138 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: as vehicles move out for one reason or another. Streets 139 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: are kind of being retaken back organically by the city, 140 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: but then sometimes throughout the day getting retaken again back 141 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: by the convoy. So the occupation has been a little 142 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: fluid on some of the outside streets. Wellington's Street, which 143 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: is the street outside of Parliament in Ottawa, has been 144 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: consistently occupied, to my knowledge, blocking off kind of not 145 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: actually blocking off, but you have to walk past them 146 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: as a pedestrian to get onto Parliament Hill. So that's 147 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: where the kind of the core is, the action of 148 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: the action is, and everything else spreads out from that 149 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: and near hotels, Uh, there's a little more action because 150 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: that's generally where people are staying. How has members of 151 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: Parliament and like local Poul Titian has been reacting since Saturday? 152 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: I know there was there was some videos of like 153 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: I think one of the MP's from Alberta was giving 154 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: an interview that gained some traction online. Um, but yeah, 155 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: it's kind of curious, like how the like different government 156 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: officials are talking about this. I'm actually so glad you 157 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: asked that because as of today, the divide in members 158 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: of Parliament has actually led to some pretty incredible political ramifications. 159 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: So last time we spoke, I think Aaron O'Toole had 160 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: just earlier in the day endorsed compoints that he'd be 161 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: coming down. Erin o't tool, for those unaware, is the 162 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: leader of the Conservative Party of Canada. He's a real 163 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: real otool. Wow, whoa whoa mind blowan, no one, no 164 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: one could have seen that joke coming. Every every Canadian 165 00:09:55,720 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: listener just like collectively mold. Yeah. So aeronauts tool and 166 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: just endorse the convoy. He'd been getting some tough questions 167 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: about it. Following everything we just talked about and more, 168 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,599 Speaker 1: aeronots will walk that back and said, you know, he 169 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 1: didn't approve of the way that the convoy was acting 170 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: in Ottawa. This led to a swift referendum on his 171 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: leadership and earlier today Aeronot Tool was voted out as 172 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: the Conservative Party leader in Canada. And that does have 173 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: pretty big ramifications. I know. I talked about Erino Tool 174 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: a decent amount in my previous Canada episodes for cadapp 175 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: and here. Um, so yeah, that'll be really interesting to see. 176 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: Who uh what's do you have any idea of when 177 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: the new person is going to try to get voted it. Like, 178 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: when when do you think that process is going to 179 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: happen to fill that spot. I'm actually not sure. I 180 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: haven't looked up when it's gonna happen. It feels like 181 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: there's been months before where there's an anti leaders of 182 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: the Conservative Party. The main concern right now for the 183 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: outside of Conservative politics is because erin o Tool was 184 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: considered relatively moderate. He talked about in the Fascism Canada 185 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: episode how erin O't tool kicked out Darren Sloan from 186 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: the party for being pretty coy on donations from neo 187 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: Nazi Paul Front on his campaign. Uh. Overall, like, that's 188 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: a pretty great thing, that Erino Tool that kicked him 189 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: out of the caucus, Like regardless of other elements of 190 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: that leadership. Uh, there's worrying that that kind of there 191 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: will be continued forward, especially because Sloan was also in 192 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: the leadership race and Sloan has only gotten further right 193 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: since then. Yeah, it is this despite Aerono tools not 194 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: great aspects, which there are lots of. He did he did, 195 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: he did take it. He did kind of hold back 196 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: some of the more problematic, uh conservative like elements, whether 197 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: that be you know, people from you know, from his 198 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: own party, like like Derek, and then I'll so keeping 199 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: kind of the people's party stuff at bay um. Yeah, 200 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: and that will be an interesting kind of power struggle. Now, 201 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: that will be something to observe. I think the thing 202 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: that concerns me most about all of this is the 203 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: implication of the implications for this is a tactic. We 204 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: saw a version of this that was more limited in 205 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: scope and time in Portland when this huge Trump caravan 206 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: rolled through downtown, blocked off big chunks of downtown and 207 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: like just maced and shot people with paintball guns at random, 208 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: and it was kind of like, I think everyone there 209 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: was surprised at how many folks they got for it. Um. 210 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: This is a much more evolved version of the same tactic, 211 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: and it's kind of stuff we talked about in season 212 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: one of it could happen here. This idea of like 213 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: people coming from these conservative majority areas in a place 214 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: where the vast majority of people are liberal but centralized 215 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: in the cities um and blocking those cities off or 216 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: otherwise disrupting their ability to transit UM, potentially their ability 217 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: to get things shipped in like food, UM, like their 218 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: ability to use free movement UM. And we've seen pieces 219 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: of this again in a bunch of places in Oregon 220 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: during the wildfires. You had these rural communities setting up 221 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: checkpoints and stuff, looking for people from the cities that 222 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: they could bill as Antifa. And it's this it's this 223 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 1: world worrying trend for a couple of reasons. Number One, 224 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: when you get ten people to do something like this, 225 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: even if the city has hundreds of thousands of people, 226 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: that's effectively too large a group to police UM. And 227 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: the police don't want to police it anyway, so there's 228 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: not even really an attempt to stop them. UM. And 229 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: it's a way in which the vast majority of Canada, 230 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: at least based on the polling I'm aware of, UM, 231 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: is not in support of the causes these guys are backing. 232 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: Was it like sevent of the country supports some level 233 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: of like vaccine mandates, UM, if I'm remembering correctly the 234 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: last one I read. So this is not a popular movement. 235 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: It's not even super popular among the truckers. Like the 236 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: actual it doesn't matter how many people in the cities 237 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: you can get. If you can get fifty people to 238 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: do something like this, the police won't will not take action, 239 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: and you can negatively impact the lives of a huge 240 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: number of millions before it gets radical, right, That's when 241 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: these guys are not coming in with guns with the 242 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: express plan to eliminate people or trying to specifically block 243 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: up food. They're just kind of sucking around now. But 244 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: it's this kind of is this thing we've talked about 245 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: where you have this is the thing in Canada and 246 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: the United States, you had liberals kind of outsourcing the 247 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: protection of society to this group of increasingly heavily armed 248 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: and radicalized people who are now in a lot of 249 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: cases fascists. Um. And that means that when there's a 250 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: problem with a large chunk of people who hate everything 251 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: you stand for, the people that you have completely outsourced 252 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: protection to are all unfavor of fucking with you because 253 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: they hate you. And it's it's a problem in Oregon, 254 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: It's going to be a problem in fucking New York 255 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: City or whatever at some point. It's a problem in Ottawa. Um, 256 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, am I am I off base? Here? 257 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: Am I am I? You're not on base at all? 258 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: And uh like there isn't there isn't anything to to 259 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: really elaborate on past what you said the last time 260 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: we spoke, I think, Robert, you said there's not a 261 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: whole lot. It was what you said that could really 262 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: really be done with the vehicle occupation tactic, and this 263 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: unless a lot of people are willing to meet them 264 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: with an equal force, which unfortunately Ottawa didn't have. Like 265 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,239 Speaker 1: it's an Ottawas. Ottawa's a relatively large city in Canada's 266 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: there's over a million people that live here. It's also 267 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: by land mass, I think, the largest city in Canada, 268 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: like east to west. It's it's very spread out, so 269 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: it's a low population density. So even the affected area 270 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: downtown is actually like pretty small in relation to the 271 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: city itself, which is pretty unfortunate. And like it's not 272 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: a particularly packed downtown for a large downtown. I am. 273 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: I am curious kind of on the violent aspect um 274 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: has Like I know there's been like um of increase 275 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: in death threats to members of parliament, like specifically liberal 276 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: members of parliaments, specifically liberal members of parliament who are 277 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: women who are maybe not white. Um, so I would 278 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: curiously if if you have any more kind of information 279 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: on that side of things, and then how how violence 280 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: has popped up in a few places throughout the past 281 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: like a week. Basically, yeah, there's been a lot. So 282 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: I mean, even if you're going by what's reported, like 283 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: right now, there is by most estimates, under a thousand 284 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: maybe at most a few thousand, very fars spread out 285 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: people as part of the convoy. As of yesterday, there's 286 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: thirteen active police investigations. The police of the city, the 287 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: City of Ottawa said in the An Oppressor. We obviously 288 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: know when there's like thirteen active investigations in anything this big, 289 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: there's way more that's not being reported, not being invest stigated. Um, 290 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: like they took you know, like these things are going 291 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: to thirteen is going to be resultful of something bad. 292 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: So some of the things that happened Robert mentioned before 293 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: the illegit assault on a houseless person inside of Shepherds 294 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: of Good Hope in which a security guard was also 295 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: called a racial slur. Uh. There was a house that 296 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: diplayed displayed a rainbow flag outside of it, that had 297 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: harassment and poop thrown at it. Um they have been 298 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: we need to get a hundred thousand people together to 299 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: throw their own poop back at these people. It's the 300 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 1: only way they'll learn. Yeah, fighting fire with fire is 301 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: that that expression? I'm sure just emerged from just tossing 302 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: poop at each other's strategy. It's meant for this. Yeah, 303 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: there's been suggestions all of our social media channels on 304 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: like here's how you can poop in snowbanks without getting caught. 305 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: Businesses have been harassed, the violenced, So like what I 306 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: think maybe some context that isn't always known. In Ottawa 307 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: on Saturday and until recently, dining in in restaurants wasn't allowed. 308 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: We were actually in a relatively strict lockdown following around 309 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: a chrown wave, and a lot of people even coming 310 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: like didn't know that. Like I spoke to people on 311 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: Saturday who were like, hey, do you know like when 312 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: the restaurants around here open so we can like sit 313 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: down for a meal. And I was like, there's no 314 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: sitting down on autous. So what people were doing they 315 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: were going inside cafees like two horns and stuff, and 316 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: they were just refusing to leave in eating their food 317 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: there anyways, and if there was no seats, they were 318 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: just like eating in line. It was also minus twenty 319 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: eight degrees in Ottawa on Saturday and very very cold 320 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: On Sunday there was an extreme cold weather warning, so 321 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: especially when people brought their kids, there wasn't a lot 322 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: of other options other than like swarm the malls and 323 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: swarm restaurants. And even then the mall, the main mall 324 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: downtown Rito Center was closed probably throughout the day because 325 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: it was not a safe place. So I already talked 326 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: before about routes getting blocked. Also not physical violence, but 327 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: honking has been keeping people awake. There's been endless honking 328 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: if you watch video footage from it, and even in 329 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: the background right now, I'm coming from Ottawa, like I 330 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: can hear honking in my background. Um, some people allegedly 331 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: parked and then urinated on the tomb of the Unknown Soldier, 332 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: which is yeah, this isn't political. Is even the wrong 333 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: way to describe a lot of the what's fun about 334 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: this for these people, it's that they suck. Yes, fucking 335 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: it's just coolly. It's just fucking cooliganism. Uh. And that's yeah, 336 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: it's it's fucking cooliganism. There's gonna be a lot more 337 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: stories coming out, for sure. Uh as things progress. Um 338 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: of stories of harrassment, Like I've talked to people who 339 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: have gotten a cat call in the night. People getting 340 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: violent altercations, street fights. I'm sure you're going to break out. 341 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: It's kind of at a very tense point right now. 342 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: And Auto we're at that point we're like, okay, we're 343 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: seeing some signs like pops getting thrown at the houses. 344 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: What's gonna happen next? Because the police are saying they 345 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: don't have a plan, and the truckers are saying they're 346 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: not leaving. What's it like outside of Bottawa, across across 347 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: all the other places where there's like similar activity happening. 348 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: They're all looking to us and being concerned. From what 349 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: I'm talking to, UH, anti fascists and Alberta are particularly 350 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: concerned right now with the goop protests. There's ongoing to UH. 351 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: It keeps seeing popping up like US Canada border activities 352 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: in the same there's a few attempted convoys by Americans 353 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: and even before in Europe there was a few attempts. 354 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: Some got turned away, some Americans got turned away the 355 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: Canadian borders. They weren't vaccinated. M Yeah, which is you know, 356 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: like it's like you think, because that's the reason they're 357 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: saying they're protesting, they would have remembered that and thought 358 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: maybe that's gonna like come into play, but I don't. Yeah, 359 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, because mean, there is a certain point 360 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: where if you get enough people going, it would be 361 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: interesting to see people really do just try to like 362 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: drive through the border. Yeah. Yeah, And I mean there's 363 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: been people like you look at social media channels, a 364 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: lot of them saying like the borders are blocked right 365 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: now with thousands of truckers supporting our cause. So if 366 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: you saw that and you believed it, and then you 367 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: went to the board and your turn away fading in vaccine, 368 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: you meant thought, well, I thought I had you know, 369 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: nine people the same causes being we're ready to use 370 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: for us, which begs the question, but what happens when 371 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: you do exactly? I don't want to find out. Yeah, 372 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: that's yeah. That's the thing is like if if if 373 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: they do, if they did have what they say they had, 374 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: would they just start doing those things and not even 375 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: think about it and not even think about like the 376 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: politics of it. They're just doing it to do it. Yeah. 377 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: I should also mention too, we talked last time about 378 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: a Plaid Army slash Diaglon members comments. Uh, they were 379 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: broadcast on the news about doing another quote January six, 380 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: uh and it came out the news to do was 381 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: first reported by Frank magazine and I think by the 382 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: Canadian antiad network that he was arrested on fire up 383 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: Striges and no a scotiap before coming here. Worth noting 384 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: he was reporting live on Info Wars on the Alex 385 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: Jonestones on Saturday before this came out and Derek still coverage. Yeah, 386 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: Derek Sloan and Ezrael Event were also on the same program. 387 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: So I mentioned Info Wars before. That's that's great, That's 388 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: what's going on there. Can you see any like beyond 389 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: the conservative leadership? What other kind of political implications are 390 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: people thinking about in Canada. It's really tense seeing what's 391 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 1: gonna come for other cities. Also, Otto was expecting a 392 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: second wave some other people in other places that kind 393 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: of didn't think the first one is going to be 394 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: huge success. We're saying, well now that it's an occupation, 395 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: we're coming and police are even saying there's a second wave. 396 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: It's a very tense place right now. We don't really 397 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: know what to do. Community places are taking direct community 398 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: members are talking about taking direct action. Because it's been 399 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: so long. This isn't something that the city of Otta 400 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: is particularly used to, unfortunately in my lifetime, and so 401 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: the ramifications of the future pretty jarring. But what's alarming 402 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: is how successful this occupation was with a relatively small number. 403 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: I think the highest estimate it was eighteen thousand people 404 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: into a city of over a million, which isn't really 405 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: that many when you think about it, but the strategy 406 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: was very, very effective. You think about how many fighters 407 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: it took for Josh to take control of mosl it 408 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: if people if there's not resistance, like, there's only really 409 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: a few areas of a city that you need to 410 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: occupy in order to have a great deal of control 411 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: over what can be done. Yeah, and that's the tough 412 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 1: part is they have a lot of control over that 413 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: small area in residents lives. They don't have a lot 414 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: of control over Parliament, which is what they're protesting for. Yeah. 415 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: I've also just to see has the Canadian mility, Harry 416 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: you said anything about these protests and the situation. So 417 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: the Attawa police chief in his pressure day was asked 418 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: a lot about that, and he's still shying away. He's 419 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: still saying he doesn't think military is the only option, 420 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: which if you're an activist on the other side of 421 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: things and worried about police escalation hurting you in the future, 422 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: that might be a good thing to hear. Ye, and 423 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: I see your shitty news. I'm not convinced that the 424 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: military would fix the problem. I'm not either. And also 425 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: Ottawa had other police forces coming to They said they're 426 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: spending eight hundred thousand dollars a day, uh, initially to 427 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: just cost of policing. Yeah. They also said they've only, 428 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: like bylaws, only had a hundred fifty tickets since this 429 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: whole thing started in the occupied zone. So it's it's 430 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: unclear what a lot of them did other than you know, 431 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 1: keep up appearances. Uh. Like I was walking around, I 432 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: saw York Region police officers walking around with their patches. 433 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: That's hundreds of kilometers away from Ottawa. So the police presence, 434 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: especially on the weekend, was not low. We we had 435 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: plenty mhm. They either didn't know what to do, I 436 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: thought it would die later, or a mixture of all 437 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 1: the above. And there's been talked to mixtures of Some 438 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: police officers have not been happy with it, but there 439 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: hasn't been really anything in the news yet, because no 440 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: one's come forward. A lot of like tweets of like 441 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: from reporter saying I have an anonymous source in the 442 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: auto police. It says they wish more actions were taken, 443 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 1: some saying otherwise, it's not really united right now. And yeah, 444 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: it's scary. Is there any counter protests being planned for Ottawa? 445 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: If I knew, i'd say so because by the time 446 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: this errors, it would have happened. So I think it'd 447 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: be safe to talk about. But fortunately, I'm not really insure. 448 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: I'm not actually sure that it might not be the 449 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: best person to ask. Yeah, we're keeping an eye out. Well, 450 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: the good news is that all men die, and so 451 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: long as men die, liberty will never perish. Right, that's good. 452 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: It's an upside. That is an upside. That's an up 453 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: positive shot. All right, Well, that's gonna do it for us. 454 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: We'll keep an eye on this and um what what 455 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,479 Speaker 1: results from it, because it's all pretty concerning, um and 456 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: worth having having an eye And I'm particularly curious is 457 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: to just like what kind of direct community responses to 458 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 1: this develop because I think that's going to wind up 459 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 1: being the only long term solution, you know, it's kind 460 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: of what people saw in Portland that there's a there's 461 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: a degree to which like the only thing that really 462 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: works as a response is is outnumbering them. Yeah. On 463 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 1: on that note, it might be maybe not the smoothest transition, 464 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: but there are actually some Autoo mutual aid funds and 465 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: then Avoca Secret Yes that are doing some some cool 466 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: stuff and there's stuff with that. There's too many of 467 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: a list for every but others have compiled list and 468 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna point to you there. So Rose Ottawa, which 469 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: stands for Rainbow Outawa Student Experience, serves two s l 470 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: G B t q I A plus post secondary students 471 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: on unseated algonquin On a Shnave territory. Though they have 472 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: closed opt nations for themselves following a wonderful spike recently. 473 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: They have a list of black lead and black empowering 474 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: organizations on their website with donation links, and you can 475 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: reach that at Rose Ottawa dot org slash donations. Uh. 476 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: There's a cool little Instagram account called transis Beautiful. O 477 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: T T O T T stands for Ottawa and that's 478 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: all one word. It's been plugging small fundraisers for queer 479 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: folks affected by the convoy, including housing support on their Instagram. Again, 480 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: that's trans is beautiful. O t t on Instagram. Uh, 481 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: something we didn't get to talk about, which is ram 482 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: Ranch Ram Ranch dot c A r A m Dash 483 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: Ranch dot c A. A website was set up in 484 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: the name of trolling the convoy Zelo chats and has 485 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: been doing a fantastic job about There's a whole army 486 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: of trolls in the trucker's elo chats and it's been 487 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: really entertaining to tune into. They've compiled a list of 488 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: charities on their website. You can check that out at 489 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: ram Dash Ranch dot c A and clicking on the 490 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: Rancher's donation song. And yeah, where can where can people 491 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: find you on the internet? People can find me on 492 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: the internet. I'm super active on Twitter at at spineless 493 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: lt where it spineless the letter l fantastic. Well, hopefully, 494 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: hopefully this gets all resolved and I don't need to 495 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: fly up to Canada to go to a protest, and 496 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: if if we do, that'll be fun. I've been wanting 497 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: to go to Canada for a minute. Yeah I can, 498 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: we can. We can take drugs at to Morton's. That 499 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: would be fun. Yeah, god, you know, I haven't vomited 500 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: into Tim Horton's bathroom in a long time. Our local 501 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: McDonald's that got famous on the internet for fistfight that 502 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: someone pulled a record in another backpack during had to 503 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: actually stop being twenty four hours after the mayor pleaded 504 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: with them because it was using up too many police resources. 505 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: That is the best kind of place in a year. 506 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: That's so dope. Oh god, yeah, I want to I 507 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: want to set up somewhere on the border in the 508 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: East coast to Tim Horton's, directly across the street from 509 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: a waffle house and just let him fight. Well, yeah, 510 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: we we do we we do this. That here. That's 511 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: that's what you'll have to bring that for. You have 512 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: to bring that over, bring a waffle house. Fives over. 513 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: All you need to do is watch a man get 514 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: stabbed and then spiritually you're at a waffle house. That 515 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: and that that ties back to the future of the convoy. 516 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: You're right, well that that does it for us today, everybody, 517 00:29:54,200 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: We will see you later. It could happen here as 518 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: a production of Cool Zone Media. 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