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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.

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Speaker 1: Everyone Welcome The Mother Knows Death, Happy Saint Patrick's Day,

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Speaker 1: and Happy birthday to our little baby Lillian, who is

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Speaker 1: a teenager. It is so sad today she's thirteen years old.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. I was looking back at pictures of

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Speaker 2: the day she was born last night.

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Speaker 1: It was getting so emotional. Oh my god, it's so crazy.

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Speaker 1: I started the Instagram right before, like while I was

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Speaker 1: pregnant with her. That's it is insane. So a lot

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Speaker 1: of people that have been following me this whole time

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Speaker 1: have like really seen her grow up, which is nuts. Right.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, last night I was putting her to bed

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Speaker 1: and I was just like, oh my god, this is

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Speaker 1: like the last time I'm putting you to bed as

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Speaker 1: a teen, like before you're officially a teenager. It's just

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Speaker 2: It really is. And then I had sent this picture

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Speaker 2: to you and gave a couple of weeks ago, but

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Speaker 2: I showed Ricky last night. I was like, thirteen years ago. Today,

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Speaker 2: my mom sat on a trash bag waiting for her

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Speaker 2: water to break so she didn't ruin the chair in

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Speaker 2: the living room.

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Speaker 1: All right, So last night we had some breaking news

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Speaker 1: a case that we've been following for a couple years now,

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Speaker 1: Corey Richins. She is the children's author, you know, the

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Speaker 1: one that wrote a book about child grief when they

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Speaker 1: lose a parent. But she she killed her kid's dad

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Speaker 1: even though she killed the parent. Yeah, so shocker. She's

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Speaker 1: been found guilty on all charges, So we'll get into that,

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Speaker 1: and then we also have a couple of updates on

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Speaker 1: some stories we've been talking about a mother Knows Death

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Speaker 1: over the past couple of years, including an update with

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Speaker 1: Laken's Knelling. If you remember her, she was the cheerleader

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Speaker 1: accused of killing her newborn baby. And then we have

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Speaker 1: an update with the Tepe murders. They're the couple that

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Speaker 1: were found dead in their house and the husband was

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Speaker 1: a dentist and the wife was married to some psycho

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Speaker 1: who ended up being the one that killed them. So

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about that update, and then we have a

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Speaker 1: couple stories involving pregnancy, childbirth, and vaginas, including eating placenta,

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Speaker 1: a freak accident, a horrific true crime story, and a

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Speaker 1: TikTok trend that may wreck your vagina. All that and

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Speaker 1: more on today's episode, including your questions, comments, and emails.

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Speaker 1: So real quick, let's talk about Corey Richins, because I

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Speaker 1: actually think we could probably make a whole episode just

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Speaker 1: dedicated to this case.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. This is definitely bonus episode

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Speaker 2: worthy because just going through the details of this case

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Speaker 2: are too long but really interesting, so you don't want

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Speaker 2: to skip over them at all. But I was very

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Speaker 2: interested in watching this go down, and of course it

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Speaker 2: was aired on a court TV, so you get to

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Speaker 2: see all the juicy stuff like people's reactions and all

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Speaker 2: the witnesses reactions and all the experts they interviewed and everything,

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Speaker 2: so that was really interesting. It's been going on the

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Speaker 2: last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: I think it was.

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Speaker 2: Only in court for just a little over a month

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Speaker 2: between jury selection and the actual trial happening. But yesterday

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Speaker 2: afternoon I had checked. I feel like around three or

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Speaker 2: four I had checked, and I don't even think they

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Speaker 2: were done doing closing argument shit, And then you texted

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Speaker 2: me just a couple hours later until she was found guilty,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, wow, they really must have made a

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Speaker 2: compelling argument because the jury only deliberated for around three hours,

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Speaker 2: which is nothing compared to some of these cases.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I think any single person watching it was like,

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Speaker 1: this lady is like batshit crazy out of her mind,

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Speaker 1: and she's one hundred percent guilty.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, I'm really excited to do a deep

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Speaker 2: dive on this because her defense team was absolute clown show.

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Speaker 2: They were just making the most ridiculous accusations. The judge

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Speaker 2: clearly hated these two women representing her. They just like

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Speaker 2: they had never been in a courtroom before. It honestly

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't see how they were possibly gonna

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Speaker 1: And they didn't.

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Speaker 2: They didn't call any witnesses when the prosecution rested, So

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Speaker 1: They probably looked at her and were probably just like, listen,

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Speaker 1: like there's too much, there's too much evidence, Like there's

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And of course she tried to get a

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Speaker 2: You were so guilty. It was unbelievable the amount of

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll talk about that more in the

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Speaker 1: special bonus episode on that, and also if you guys

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Speaker 1: want to prep for that, we do have a high

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Speaker 1: profile depth this that we wrote years ago on her

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Speaker 1: in the Grosser Room that talks all about her husband's

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Speaker 1: cause and manner of death. And while there was some

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Speaker 1: discussion over that whether it was an accidental overdose or

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Speaker 1: intentional versus a homicide. So we go through all that

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Speaker 1: the bonus episode. So let's talk about another high profile

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Speaker 1: death that we've been covering in the gross Room and

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Speaker 1: on Mother Knows Death, Laken Snelling.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So when we were at Crime Come, this was

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Speaker 2: the trending story of this of that particular week back

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Speaker 2: in September. So that was about the Kentucky cheerleader Laken Snelling,

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Speaker 2: who her child that she gave birth to in her

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Speaker 2: So as of last week, a grand jury voted to

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Speaker 1: So the reason that these charges are just coming up

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Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure what took this long to figure

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Speaker 1: that her charges would be far less than what they

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Speaker 1: actually were. But we didn't know exactly what happened until recently,

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Speaker 1: Like she becuse, she did admit when she got arrested

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Speaker 1: Now the story could be total bullshit too, but she

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Speaker 1: would have died of asphyxia that way, right. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: which caused the baby to asphyxiate. And that's what they're

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Speaker 1: that's not possible. But since the medical examiner didn't, actually

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Speaker 1: I can't say, oh, this baby was strangled, this baby

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Speaker 1: was smothered. They can't say that they don't have scientific

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is an interesting point you made. And they

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Speaker 2: also revealed that they had a warrant for Snapchat, so

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Speaker 2: apparently her and the roommates communicated through a group chat

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Speaker 2: on Snapchat. I don't know why they just weren't texting

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Speaker 1: So I don't think kids these days. I just based

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Speaker 1: upon hearing my children and hearing older teenage kids, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't seem like anybody like my kids.

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Speaker 2: Will.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm anti social media, So they'll come up

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Speaker 1: to me and say, can I get this app so

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Speaker 1: I could text pictures to my friends And I'm like, well,

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Speaker 1: why don't you just text pictures to your friends? Oh

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Speaker 1: well this app's different.

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Speaker 2: No, oh my god, how stupid is that? And I

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Speaker 2: guess with the Snapchat warrant now they're trying they're able

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Speaker 2: that around four am the day she gave birth, the

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Speaker 2: roommates reported to each other that they heard really loud

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Speaker 2: like do you hear that noise? Like it's looks so

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Speaker 2: fucking stupid. But then anyway, they have this communication around

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Speaker 2: she passed out and she hadn't been feeling well. As

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Speaker 2: we know, she gave birth, clean up the whole scene,

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Speaker 2: on her campus. And then the roommates were suspicious because

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch this trial. I just want

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Speaker 1: to hear like all we're hearing in the article is

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Speaker 1: insane noises, and like when these people get interviewed on

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Speaker 1: the stand, I just really am curious as to I

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Speaker 1: mean think, like any I've never actually watched someone give birth.

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Speaker 1: I'm about to do it with you, which I'm excited

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Speaker 1: that it's not going to be me, but but like

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Speaker 1: with no drugs or anything and no support system there. Quiet.

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Speaker 1: It's just like I just I can't even imagine, like

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Speaker 1: what that sounded like. And this is this is kind

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Speaker 1: of similar to the Idaho case, right like when you

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Speaker 1: hear these college students are all living in this house

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Speaker 1: and they're hearing something so unusual happen and they don't

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Speaker 2: It's just it's just like like she had to be

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Speaker 3: Even if she was just like like it's she had

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Speaker 3: that she'd be screaming, but like you would hear signs

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Speaker 3: of something not right. And just let's pretend she wasn't

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Speaker 3: giving birth. Was she getting raped up there? Like what

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, And they're saying it was so aggressive that

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Speaker 1: behind bars and you don't want to get off because

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00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 1: it's something stupid like that, Right, But at the same time,

437
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: you could understand that Ohio would want to get rid

438
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 1: of it because every single time people drive by it,

439
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 1: it's traumatic to look at it. I mean, I mean

440
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: so some other houses. So this is another interesting thing.

441
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 1: So we were talking about this probably on this show

442
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,360
Speaker 1: when the John Benet Ramsey house went fir sal remember that, Yeah,

443
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 1: and that was well that was back. So they had

444
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 1: bought it in nineteen ninety one for five hundred thousand

445
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 1: dollars and then now it's it's been on and off

446
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 1: the market, so I'm not sure if like people just

447
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 1: aren't interested, but at this point they're saying that it's

448
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,199
Speaker 1: worth four point two million dollars if not more. And

449
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 1: remember they had the pictures on realtor dot com at

450
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 1: some point and we looked at it and it was

451
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,360
Speaker 1: like the basement's like completely redone like everything looks different.

452
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 1: But just to think that a child was murdered and

453
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: sexually assaulted there, I just don't know how even if

454
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: it's the nice this looking house, it's just such bad,

455
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 1: Like you have to think, like if you're that house

456
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: was seventy two hundred square feet, right, that's a huge house. Yeah,

457
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: you have children if you're living there, probably like usually

458
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 1: a couple isn't buying a house that that size, Like

459
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 1: why would you want to raise a family in a

460
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: house where something like that happened?

461
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 2: Ever, That's how I kind of feel because I guess

462
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 2: we got in this conversation about Gene Hackman before in

463
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 2: his house being for sale, Like you're dumb to think

464
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 2: that a house you've you're living in that other people

465
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 2: have lived in before that you have to assume somebody

466
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 2: has died at some point in time, especially for us

467
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,959
Speaker 2: that have older houses. Right, But like when you know

468
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 2: that something so horrific happened in the house, like John

469
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 2: Benet Ramsey, like this case, I don't understand.

470
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 1: How you could do it.

471
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,959
Speaker 2: Think about John Wayne Gacy for example, Like they knocked

472
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: down his house because of how horrific those crimes were.

473
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 2: But then somebody just built a brand new one right

474
00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 2: on top of it. And I feel like that whole

475
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 2: property is cursed. Yeah, it is, it really is. And

476
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 2: like the Gene Hackman.

477
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: One's a little bit of a different scenario for me

478
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 1: because like that house, his house and his property and

479
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,479
Speaker 1: land was like so awesome. I just like it was.

480
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: It was really beautiful.

481
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 2: But I think he died from like not like getting

482
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 2: brutally murdered.

483
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 1: The hesitation I had with Gene Hackman's house is like

484
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: a woman died in that house from a viral infection

485
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: that she got living in that house. Yeah, like like

486
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 1: no thanks, I'm sorry. Like maybe you're young and healthy

487
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,479
Speaker 1: and that's not going to happen to you, but just

488
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: like I just that to me is just like I

489
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: would stay away from that. That's the only reason I

490
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: would stay away from that one. But another one was

491
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,919
Speaker 1: Chris Watts. The Chris Watts house, Yeah, where he killed

492
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 1: his two children and their mother. Well I think he

493
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: killed the mother at the house and then he killed

494
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: the kids maybe at the set, putting them in an

495
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 1: oil tank. Uh yes, But that house sold and and

496
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: two like that was back on the that was on

497
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: the market for seven hundred thousand dollars. The Mrdaal house

498
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: was on the market for three million dollars. Almost Menandez

499
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: brother's house. That one's insane. Just under twenty million. Wow,

500
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 1: that house is ridiculous too, but it's also very interesting.

501
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,719
Speaker 1: Same Nicole Brown Simpson one of the Charles Manson houses.

502
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 1: They're all houses that are almost a million or multiple

503
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: million dollars. It's just really interesting.

504
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 2: I just think, like, let's say, for example, the Minetta's

505
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 2: brother's house, Like, so obviously somebody buying this house is

506
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 2: incredibly wealthy to be able to afford a twenty million

507
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 2: dollar home. But you're telling me, even if the whole

508
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 2: house gets gutted and redone, you're just gonna walk in

509
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: the living room and then be like, oh, thirty years

510
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 2: ago two people had basically their heads blasted off by

511
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 2: their children in this very space. I just think it's

512
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,239
Speaker 2: really bad energy. But I guess some people either just

513
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 2: really don't care or they're into it.

514
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: Like the only reason I could see someone wanting to

515
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: do it is there's like this, there's like a bunch

516
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: of like death tours in la especially because there's so

517
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: many places to go to. If one of those tours

518
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: wanted to buy one of these houses and be like,

519
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: let's walk through this actual house where the Menanda's brothers

520
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: killed their parents, like that would totally make sense to me.

521
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: I just otherwise, No, I don't. I really don't get

522
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: at all.

523
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 2: When I found out about the autoerotic asphyxiation incident in

524
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: my attic, I didn't feel comfortable about it, but I

525
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 2: can't do anything about it now. But still, that wasn't

526
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 2: like somebody getting brutally murdered. That was technically an accidental death,

527
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 2: so is what it is.

528
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 1: It's also just better, like it's better if you don't know. Yeah,

529
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 1: I don't know for certain that no one was murdered here,

530
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 1: but I just don't. I don't want to know.

531
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 2: You don't have a neighbor that just loves telling you

532
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 2: all the weird things that happened in your house, That's

533
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 2: what happens over here. But yeah, I mean, I think

534
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 2: this house is priced high in general, but like I'm

535
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: curious if it's going to sell for that price, I

536
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 2: would think they'd.

537
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: Have to go a little lower. So so that's interesting too,

538
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: because Gene Hackman's house was priced I think it was

539
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: priced at four million or something like that, which they

540
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: actually mentioned in the article, was way below the market value.

541
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: But considering the circumstances, they because normally if you're selling

542
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: a celebrity home like that, not only would it be

543
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 1: market value, but it would be above because it'd be like, oh,

544
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: Gene Hackman lived here.

545
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 2: But considering the potential haunt of virus that's.

546
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: In the house will lower it for you. Yeah. And

547
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: also just like the whole decomp body thing, like I

548
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: know what that looks like. I mean, you would really

549
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: have to do some some work to clean out that

550
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: whole vibe. I just would want to walk through it

551
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: and be like, do I get a hint of a

552
00:27:59,000 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: smell anywhere?

553
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: And obviously this house, we know that a crime just

554
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 2: occurred in this house on December thirtieth, But like, I

555
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 2: think they have to disclose if a homicide.

556
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: Or they don't don't not in Ohio. In that particular

557
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 1: article that I just read about this, it says that

558
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: they don't have to disclose it, and that's that might

559
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: be specific to Ohio. I don't agree with that.

560
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 2: I feel like because of the nature of that crime,

561
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 2: they should have to disclose that.

562
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 1: No, it's just like we were saying, like if we

563
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: don't know, you don't know.

564
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 2: You know they will know though, because it's like if

565
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 2: you just google the address, it comes up in all

566
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: these articles about the homicides.

567
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, for that particular murder, but what about like there

568
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: was probably five people killed in Philadelphia yesterday, Like what

569
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: about their houses? I know, you know what I mean.

570
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: Like I'm just saying, like I think it's weird.

571
00:28:54,840 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: Let's get on to this. This Winnie Cooper story. Danica

572
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: mckeller of the Wonder Years fame. She's revealing that after

573
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: giving birth to her son fifteen years ago, she was

574
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: offered to taste her placenta and she loved it. Oh

575
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: my god, I so listen, Like, I just want to

576
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: put this out there in general, if any celebrity says

577
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: to do something with your health, just like it's it's

578
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: a good idea to just not do it.

579
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 2: I'm assuming because she's saying she was in the hospital

580
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,479
Speaker 2: and the dula offered it to her.

581
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: She just ate it raw, like right then and there.

582
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. She said that it tasted like a

583
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: filet mignon, like the best.

584
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: She's ever had. This is a Luke Waltieri proclamation.

585
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,479
Speaker 1: There's a listen, when you cut it, it looks like steak,

586
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: except it's a little it's not as you said. It's

587
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: like ground beef, it's more like, yeah, it's just more

588
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: like you could pull it apart easier. It's just it's

589
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: like a like a meat loaf slice, you know, like

590
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: but softer. That's after it's fixed too. When it's but

591
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: when it's fresh, it's it looks like steak. It's very

592
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: it's just very fleshy and red and very very vascular

593
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: and bloody when you cut it fresh. I can't imagine

594
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: doing that. I could more imagine doing cutting it and

595
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: cooking it and eating it. I just don't really understand

596
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: why people keep trying to push this, like they've been

597
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: studying this forever to see if it actually does anything,

598
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: and it just doesn't. In humans, and you know, other

599
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: mammals eat their placenta like cats, you know, lions, mammals, right,

600
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: you'll see them do that after they give birth. But

601
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: they think that that's done because of like an evolutionary thing,

602
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: that they're cleaning up the scene of blood and tissue

603
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: because predators can smell that and will come and try

604
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: to kill their baby and eat their baby, so they

605
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,959
Speaker 1: want to kind of clean up the evidence of it,

606
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: so to speak. And that's like an evolutionary thing with animals.

607
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: A lot of people who do this placental encapsulation and

608
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: eating their placenta. They say that it makes their milk

609
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: come in better, and it reduces postpartum depression and this,

610
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: that and the other, which is fine, like if you

611
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: want to do it, it's not going to hurt you.

612
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: But like, there's no they've tried to study that, because

613
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: that would actually be the best case scenario that we

614
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: could take women's placentas and make pills for them to

615
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: make so they don't have to go on SSRIs after

616
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: giving birth or something. Right, it would be the best

617
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't work they want they or or what

618
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: Big Pharmaci.

619
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: Is saying, Farma, I guess money off of a yeah,

620
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: and that's I mean, I guess that's completely a possibility too.

621
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: I just don't even think though, like I've because when

622
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: you're taking a placenta and you're freeze drying it or

623
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: whatever you're doing and encapsulating it, I feel like if

624
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: there were any nutrients in it, you're just like denaturing it. Anyway.

625
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I know I'm gonna get a bunch

626
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: of shit for this because people think it's like the

627
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: best thing in the world. I'm just kind of anytime

628
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: like a celebrity's like, oh do this semen uh, sperm whale,

629
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: semen facial and all this shit, you're just like, you

630
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: guys are so bored, like just but they'll.

631
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: Be like, oh, like eat clean, and we'll have another

632
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 2: story later on that's like all about like how something

633
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 2: that we think is natural it could actually be harmful

634
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 2: to us, right, But like they'll be like preaching, oh,

635
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: do this because it's more natural and it's clean and whatever.

636
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 2: But then they'll go get botox, so it's like, what

637
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: do you what are you doing?

638
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: There was actually speaking of the oscars. There was a

639
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: we were we were talking about the oscars before that

640
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: before we started recording. We haven't said anything on it

641
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: yet right on the show, but regardless, there's the oscars

642
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: happened this weekend and there's this photo going viral of

643
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: the of the what's it called. The theater that they

644
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: were sitting in is like trashed. There's like trash all

645
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: over the ground, water bottles, all of their junk, editors,

646
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: and it's just like, oh, this is the crowd that's

647
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: always saying, you know, to treat the environment good. And

648
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: they do all this stuff at their house and drive

649
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: these cars and this and that because they care about

650
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: the environment. And meanwhile they just like left a bunch

651
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Speaker 1: of trash on the ground for for the workers to

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Speaker 1: clean up. You know, well that just likes the attitude.

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Speaker 1: It sums them up one hundred percent. It's kind of amazing,

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Speaker 1: of course it is.

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Speaker 2: It's just annoying. This episode is brought to you by

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Speaker 2: the Grosser Room.

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Speaker 1: Guys. So this week's high profile death dis section in

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Speaker 1: the Grossroom is on baby Leon. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you've ever heard about him, but it's a surrogacy scandal.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of a juicy story. Do you want to

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Speaker 1: talk about it a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this family high or like this couple i should say,

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Speaker 2: hired this surrogate and while it seemed to be going

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Speaker 2: well at first, the surrogate started having issues beyond her control.

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Speaker 2: At about twenty six weeks pregnant, things went south. The

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Speaker 2: baby did not survive, and then what happens afterwards is

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Speaker 2: really going to shock you. Just complete harassment, potential bankruptcy,

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Speaker 2: a murder accusation.

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Speaker 1: You just can't believe where the story goes.

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Speaker 2: It truly is so insane. It seems completely made up

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Speaker 2: but checking out.

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Speaker 1: And I'm wondering after writing that, like seeing like how

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Speaker 1: many women that this may be potentially because it brings

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Speaker 1: up questions about surrogacy and obviously, like I have a

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Speaker 1: friend that used a sarrogate because she has an underlying

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Speaker 1: cardiac problem, Like it's totally necessary, but then in this

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Speaker 1: particular case, it doesn't really seem like this woman needed

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Speaker 1: a surrogate per se, And and she used two different

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Speaker 1: sarrogates to have two different children and kind of both

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Speaker 1: of their lives ended up being kind of ruined because

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Speaker 1: of it. Oh yeahs So you have to wonder if

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Speaker 1: that is how happening more often. And it's talks a

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Speaker 1: little bit about these agencies that have the surrogates and

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Speaker 1: how they're treating people. One thing that I didn't even

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Speaker 1: consider after you wrote that up was about the health

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Speaker 1: insurance part of it, and like who's actually paying for

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Speaker 1: these bills and things like that. So it's a it's

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Speaker 1: a really good article.

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Speaker 2: And I thought that the price the saraga got paid

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Speaker 2: was pretty low considering she's growing somebody else, and.

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Speaker 1: It was it was fairly recent, so it's not like,

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Speaker 1: oh it was twenty years ago.

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Speaker 2: No, it was within the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean and that that really sucks because

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Speaker 1: I think most people would say that that's really not

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Speaker 1: that much money, Like it wouldn't even pay for a

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Speaker 1: new car.

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Speaker 2: I mean today's money, today's Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So it's just like like like I always say, like

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Speaker 1: if I was going to do something like that, it

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Speaker 1: needs to be like, oh, I'm paying off your student

702
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Speaker 1: loans or I'm paying off your mortgage like a big

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Speaker 1: chunk of something. Right, So check that out in the

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Speaker 1: Grosser Room. All that and more.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so now we have some stories talking about women's

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Speaker 1: health in all sorts of different ways. This one was

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Speaker 1: involving an accident with a pregnant person.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fun stories to hear as a pregnant person currently.

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Speaker 2: So first we have in England, a thirty four week

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Speaker 2: pregnant woman was using a pedestrian crosswalk when an e

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Speaker 2: bike came out of nowhere hit her and now she's

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Speaker 2: worried about her baby after she had to give birth

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Speaker 2: six weeks early.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of our great state of New Jersey, it's like

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Speaker 1: a major issue right now in New Jersey, the whole

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Speaker 1: e bike situation, because people can buy kits and modify

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Speaker 1: them to make them go really fast, like motorcycle speed

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Speaker 1: or like moped speed, just like something that needs to

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Speaker 1: be regulated.

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Speaker 2: I find in our immediate area, I'm not having an

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Speaker 2: issue with this. We are having that issue. You've recently

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Speaker 2: discussed about the jazzy chair situation though, in the middle

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Speaker 2: of a major road, people just going on motorized wheelchairs

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Speaker 2: just like going at full speed in the middle of

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Speaker 2: the street that the speed limit is like fifty miles

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Speaker 2: an hour.

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Speaker 1: Well, the e bikes are. They are. They're a situation

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Speaker 1: around here, and they're more popular in cities obviously. I

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Speaker 1: when I went to New York City recently and parked

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Speaker 1: on the street when I was with Gabe for that event.

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Speaker 1: I got out of the car and we were parked

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Speaker 1: right next to one of those bike lanes, and I

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Speaker 1: just looked over to just, you know, just across the

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Speaker 1: street and that bike though there was just like so

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Speaker 1: many of them. You really have to watch because they

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Speaker 1: come so fast. It's not like a bicycle that you

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Speaker 1: could kind of predict the speed of how long it's

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Speaker 1: going to take the person to get to you. I

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Speaker 1: mean they go they're supposed to go fifteen to twenty

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Speaker 1: miles an hour ish, but you could modify them to

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Speaker 1: go forty fifty miles an hour. And when they're modified

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Speaker 1: like that, they're they're illegal, first of all, and they

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Speaker 1: really the person because when you get a mopad you

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Speaker 1: need a special driver's license and registration and everything to

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Speaker 1: do that. So there's a difference.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna ask if there was an

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Speaker 2: age limit because in this particular case, this was a

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Speaker 2: thirteen year old boy riding on this Well, we hit

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Speaker 2: this woman.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we have kids riding on them all the time.

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Speaker 1: We've had a couple cases in New Jersey that have

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Speaker 1: been a higher profile because people have died because of it,

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Speaker 1: and the biggest, the biggest injuries they're seeing her head

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Speaker 1: injuries from the actual rider. But there has been because

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Speaker 1: there's been such a jump in e bikes over since

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Speaker 1: the pandemic. There's been such a huge, huge jump that

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Speaker 1: now they're starting to see pedestrian injuries, which is what

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Speaker 1: you would consider this to be. I actually know somebody

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Speaker 1: that died that was hit by a motorcycle crossing the street.

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Speaker 1: She was pregnant too, and she died because she got hit.

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Speaker 1: So that's exactly what happened in this case. I mean,

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Speaker 1: when you're walking on the street and you're a pedestrian,

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Speaker 1: even if a bicycle is going fast and hits you,

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Speaker 1: it could really do damage. And this one was going

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Speaker 1: very fast. It knocked her over. She fell on her belly,

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Speaker 1: and she immediately thought that something was wrong. She kept

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Speaker 1: shaking her belly and saying that she couldn't feel the

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Speaker 1: baby moving, and she was freaking out. And when she

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Speaker 1: got into the ambulance, they were like, we need to

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Speaker 1: bring you in and do an emergency C section right away,

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Speaker 1: and they did, and luckily everything worked out for her.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely. And I mean, I don't know how

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Speaker 2: to feel about this, but like the teenager hit her

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Speaker 2: right and then left the scene, and then the police

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Speaker 2: had to go later find him and arrest him. Like

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Speaker 2: I understand, you're young and you're probably scared and you

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Speaker 2: don't know what happened, but like you can't just leave

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Speaker 2: if something like that happened, because it doesn't seem like

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Speaker 2: you just like clipped her and thought it was innocent

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Speaker 2: and kept going the way it is described.

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Speaker 1: It was a full on collision. Yeah, I mean it

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Speaker 1: just I just am wondering, Like in New York, for example,

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Speaker 1: these bikes are actually going faster than cars could go

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Speaker 1: because they're able to weave in and out of places

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Speaker 1: cars can't go. When are they supposed to abide by

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Speaker 1: the traffic lights like the same exact way that cars do.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that bicycles are supposed to too, But people

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Speaker 1: really don't, you know, well.

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Speaker 2: Especially Phi people in Philly go the opposite way the

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Speaker 2: cars you're driving. They don't stop at stop sense, they

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Speaker 2: don't stop at lights.

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Speaker 1: It's well, Philly's like I feel like New York is

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Speaker 1: very good about bicycle friendly, whereas like Philly's not. I

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Speaker 1: actually remember a year or two ago we had a

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Speaker 1: doctor from Children's hospital. Remember she got killed by somebody? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: was she was Were they riding a bike or.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure she was riding a bike and she

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Speaker 2: was riding a car. But I will say, like Phillies

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Speaker 2: getting better. I don't know if you've been in Old

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Speaker 2: City recently, but I just was there a couple of

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Speaker 2: weeks ago, and like they have ripped up all of

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Speaker 2: Market Street and put in a bike lane on the side,

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Speaker 2: which is good because it sucks if you're riding a

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Speaker 2: bike around in the city that there's nowhere free to go,

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Speaker 2: and it sucks as a driver when there's nowhere for them.

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Speaker 1: I think all that happened though, because of that chop doctor,

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Speaker 1: because I think that her I don't know if it

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Speaker 1: was her friends or family or doing something to try

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Speaker 1: to make it safer for bike riders, because it really is.

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Speaker 1: It's just not. I feel like in New York it's

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Speaker 1: accessible for them on a lot of streets, and in

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Speaker 1: Philly it's just like, oh, you can go up thirteenth

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Speaker 1: Street and like, but what if you're not going to

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Speaker 1: be anywhere near there.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they care about people's safety. I think

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Speaker 2: because the World Cup's about to be here, they're about

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Speaker 2: to have the two hundred and fifty year anniversary of

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Speaker 2: Independence Day, and the baseball game is going to be here.

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Speaker 2: They're cleaning up to make the city look nice. They

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Speaker 2: did this, and the DNC was here, they like all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden six months before a lot of areas

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00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 2: got really nice and went under construction, and then they

824
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: all went down hill again. And now that we're hosting

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Speaker 2: these three major events. They're doing it all over again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah they need to, because I was just downtown a

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Speaker 1: few weeks ago and was just like, yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: not looking good around here. So all right, let's talk

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Speaker 1: about God this start. This story is is really horrific.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So then in Alabama, a woman had just given

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Speaker 2: birth and her husband decided that while they were still

832
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: in the hospital, that was the best time to shoot

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Speaker 2: her and then himself, like in the hospital, yes, after

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Speaker 2: she just gave birth.

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Speaker 1: It's it sucks because from a hospital perspective, if the

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Speaker 1: if the father is showing up, and I don't know

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Speaker 1: how they could potentially prevent this. I mean, the major

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Speaker 1: city hospitals where we live have metal detectors and stuff,

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Speaker 1: but I don't the smaller ones don't. I know, I've

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Speaker 1: worked in them, so I don't know. If you're having

841
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: people that are visiting, how you could really I mean

842
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: technically they're maybe they could do like a list and

843
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Speaker 1: say these are people that are permitted to visit me.

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Speaker 2: I was just gonna ask that because a couple of

845
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Speaker 2: times I've had to visit people in the hospital. Sometimes

846
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: they don't even ask my name, They're just like here's

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00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: a visitor badge, this is the room so and So's.

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Speaker 1: In, right, Yeah, I mean they're definitely because I've been

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Speaker 1: working in the hospital during the transition of this, and

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Speaker 1: they've definitely. Like when I first started working at the hospital,

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00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: it was just like I used to bring my friends

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00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: in all the time, we like eat lunch together, nobody

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00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: batted an eye. And then now it's like, oh, you

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00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: got to go through this metal detector and they have

855
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: to get like a sticker with their you know, their

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Speaker 1: picture on it, show their idea at the desk and

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00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: all that stuff. But he could have done all that.

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Speaker 2: I mean when you used to work in the city,

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00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 2: I would literally go get us bubble tea and like

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00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: lunch and walk right through the emergency and go right

861
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Speaker 2: on the elevator and go right up to your lab.

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Speaker 2: Like not one person, yes, all the time, fifteen sixteen

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Speaker 2: years old. No, that one person stopped me and was like,

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Speaker 2: why are you going into an employee's only area of

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Speaker 2: the hospital.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean we had patients wandering up there all

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Speaker 1: the time. Like because when you when you go on

868
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: that elevator that you're talking about, it literally brought you

869
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: right outside of the gross room, and like we had

870
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: patients like wandering in the lab with like oregans on

871
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: cutting boards and stuff. It was outrageous. But things things

872
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: are definitely changing because that now the security has to

873
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: stop them and say where you're going and points them

874
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: to the right way and everything like that, I suppose,

875
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 1: but like, I don't know, I feel like the list,

876
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 1: the list would be a start to just especially for

877
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: because you have to imagine that with the mother baby units,

878
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: especially that there could be some domestic drama happening with people.

879
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and it's like, well, very important to note

880
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: that baby was left unharmed, but like how terrifying is

881
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 2: that for hospital staff and the other women delivering or

882
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: having just given birth in this wing of the hospital.

883
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 2: I'm sure everybody heard what happened. Obviously they said she

884
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: was shot multiple times and then the husband shot himself.

885
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean, I don't know, because I did

886
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: read in the article that they were having some kind

887
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: of domestic dispute about something, and there was something about

888
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: him coming to the hospital or his family coming to

889
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: the hospital.

890
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 2: Like well, some reports that they were having established marital issues,

891
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 2: like they're saying and some are saying that she didn't

892
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 2: even want him there at all. So I wonder if

893
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 2: you can be like, I'm open to visitors, but definitely

894
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 2: not this person.

895
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, And also like I feel like in general, aside

896
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: from that, like you're getting ready to give birth, right,

897
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: Like you should just be like I only want these

898
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: people here because you're like you just don't feel good

899
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: you just gave birth. You just like want to be

900
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 1: alone with your baby. Like you don't need Rando's comment

901
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: and showing up to visit you, like, just be like

902
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: I only want these four people to come see me.

903
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: That should be, Like that should be what is I think?

904
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 2: Like these and I'm with you because I'm about to

905
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 2: be there, Like I'm more than okay having certain people there,

906
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 2: but I don't just want like some random peripherals showing

907
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 2: up that I'm like, I'm okay if you meet the

908
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 2: baby in the first couple of days, but like give

909
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 2: me a second to get adjusted.

910
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, but you very it's like a very interesting thing.

911
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 2: You always have some Rando family members showing up that

912
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 2: you're like.

913
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 1: Why are you plus the stupid list you were reading

914
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: to me, like do you want the cord clamped or

915
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: do you want to cut immediately like all this stuff.

916
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: It's just like they ask you every other specific thing,

917
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: but they're not like, oh, what randos do you not

918
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: want showing up it? Well, I don't know if they do.

919
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 2: Actually, maybe I could ask my midwife team when I'm

920
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 2: there next week with their protocol.

921
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: Is whouse? I am curious?

922
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: I mean the birth plan I was reading to you

923
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 2: came with a pregnancy journal that I bought. That is

924
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 2: not something the office provided me. So, but I've been

925
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 2: seeing online how ridiculous people are getting, like putting string

926
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: lights up and all.

927
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: This crazy shit.

928
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 2: It's like, just your goal should be to have a

929
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 2: healthy baby, and for you to be healthy after you deliver.

930
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: Everything else. Try to be as relaxed as you can.

931
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 2: I think I might watch pond Stars or something that

932
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 2: she was very relaxing to me, But like, we got

933
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 2: a chill. We can't just show up to the hospital

934
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 2: with like fifty suitcases of shit.

935
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: All right, So this lady. So the saddest part of

936
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: this whole entire story and the article is that they

937
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: show a picture of the mom with her like newborn

938
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: baby laying on her face. And it's just so sad

939
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: because you're just like when you're in that moment. I mean,

940
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,720
Speaker 1: like I really want to know what the hell happened,

941
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: Like what happened that caused that? I don't know.

942
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 2: And his family was saying they were very surprised about

943
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 2: how violent he was and how it would go this way.

944
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 2: But obviously, like they can just say that even if

945
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: you can't beat very young.

946
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: He was nineteen and she was twenty four. Yeah, and

947
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: which makes you think, like was he a minor when

948
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: they got together. I mean, it's possible if he's only

949
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: nineteen years old and they're already married in having a

950
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: baby nine months later, like that's kind of unusual. But

951
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 1: he was enlisted in the National Reserve or something like that.

952
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: I don't I just don't know, and his family seems

953
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: shocked about it. It's just like what could cause a

954
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 1: person to do that? And like looking at your maybe

955
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: he thought it wasn't his baby or something like he.

956
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 2: Might have had a possibility, Like I mean, there's a

957
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: possibility he grew up in a violent household with between

958
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: his family members, he could have had a mental condition

959
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 2: going on.

960
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: We weren't privy too, We just don't really know.

961
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: I know.

962
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: It's just like it's just like, so think about that baby,

963
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: Like I'm sure someone in the family will take over

964
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: raising the baby, but just like you want that in

965
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: the shadow of your life that both of your parents

966
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: are dead and your your dad like literally killed your

967
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: mother as soon as you came out of her body.

968
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: It's just like so messed up.

969
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 2: No, it's horrible, all right. Our last story for today

970
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 2: involves a new TikTok trend, which we all know is.

971
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: Terrible no matter what it is.

972
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: And I don't think this is like new information per se,

973
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 2: but they're saying that using coconut oil in your vagina

974
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 2: may not only wreck it, but may make condoms less effective,

975
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 2: risking pregnancy and also ASTDS.

976
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: So when I first heard this story, I was kind

977
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: of shocked about it because I specifically recall my doctor

978
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: telling me that I could use that. She was just like, oh,

979
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: maybe you want to try this, and I was like okay,

980
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: And I remember going home and saying, you know what, like,

981
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: I don't think that I would ever use that because

982
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: I have like when I eat walnuts, my throat gets itchy,

983
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: Like I have fruits and vegetables make my throat itchy,

984
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: and I'm like I don't need to put anything down

985
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: there that might give me like like an itch event,

986
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: Like I didn't want to use it, right, But so

987
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: that's why I it's stuck in my head, like I

988
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: remembered it. So one of our listeners named Danielle, who

989
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: we're going to be seeing at our event that is

990
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: in horsehom Pa in a couple of weeks, she was

991
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: just she said that her doctor had just told her

992
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: to use it, and she's she's shocked that this is

993
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: the thing. And she also said that she keeps having

994
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 1: like recurrent UTIs and stuff, and then she's like, oh

995
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: my god, is this actually making it worse for me?

996
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: So I looked into a little bit and apparently it's

997
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: not specific to coconut oil, but they say that silicon

998
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: based lubricants are and water based ones are the best

999
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 1: ones that have been tested medically, and these this one,

1000
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: like a coconut oil one can because it's oil based.

1001
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 1: Like they're saying, oil based loubes are the ones that

1002
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: cause more issues with women. So they're saying like it's

1003
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: not specific to coconut but just oil based lubes in general.

1004
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 1: But they're saying, like the coke because the coconut oil

1005
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: is an oil and it's thick, so it's able to

1006
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: you know, if you have bacteria, especially around your urethra

1007
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: after you have sex and stuff like, it's it's not

1008
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: going to clean off easily and it could be adherent

1009
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: there and it could actually clog it on there, which

1010
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: is why you know, when you get like tattooed, or

1011
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: you get your ears piers for example, they tell you

1012
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: not to use like A and D ointment or neosporind

1013
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: because the ointment, the thick ointment sometimes can trap bacteria.

1014
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: It's just not it's not good.

1015
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 2: But don't they advise you use aqua for because that's

1016
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 2: what I always use after.

1017
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: What after getting your ears pierced or something.

1018
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 2: No, like after I get tattooed. Well, I don't know

1019
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 2: exactly why. I don't think.

1020
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what the actual advice from a dermatologist

1021
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: is to do after you get a tattoo like that,

1022
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, But and maybe it has

1023
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure if it's petroleum based or something

1024
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: like that. Like I'm not sure what the composition is.

1025
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: But with the coconut oil, for example, I think that

1026
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: like maybe my doctor offered it to me and told

1027
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 1: me to do it because she was just like, you're

1028
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: married for X amount of years and like you're not

1029
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 1: using condoms and stuff like that, and you know, whereas

1030
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 1: with younger women it would be really a bad idea

1031
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: or just like not younger women, but single women that

1032
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 1: want to use it, that are using condoms and stuff,

1033
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: because it could break down the condom and also those

1034
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: dental damn things that I don't really know anybody that

1035
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: actually uses them but for oral sex, so we could

1036
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: just think anybody uses this. I don't either, I've never

1037
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: heard of a real life example of it, but it

1038
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: could break it down and then it and then it

1039
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: will increase your risk of getting like a serious like

1040
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: sexually transmitted infection.

1041
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 2: I feel also like I I feel like when I

1042
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 2: was just at pelvic floor therapy, I've noticed that was

1043
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: what they used there too, coconut oil really yeah, and

1044
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 2: like I don't, I don't know, Like I feel like

1045
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 2: I've been hearing this forever, so I am surprised that

1046
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 2: there's backlash about it.

1047
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I am too. I mean, if you just

1048
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: want to be very specific, like, okay, coconut oil oil

1049
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 1: based bad, Okay, I just think it's very specific to

1050
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 1: like what's going on in your life.

1051
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 2: So this is what I was referring to earlier, because

1052
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 2: in this article they say they really are trying to

1053
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 2: emphasize it. Just because something is natural, it doesn't necessarily

1054
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 2: mean it's the safest option.

1055
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: So when you get the pelvic floor therapy, like when

1056
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: you go home after, is it like greasy? Well, I

1057
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: don't always have internal work done.

1058
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,240
Speaker 2: That was. I had more of that done around after

1059
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 2: my surgery, but like not necessarily Like it's not like

1060
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 2: she's like using a ton of it. It's just a

1061
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: little bit. And then they have the wipes for you

1062
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 2: to use after.

1063
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's that big of a deal.

1064
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I mean, like you have to

1065
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: take into if you're using condoms and it's known that

1066
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 1: breaks down condoms, Like that's that's serious. Well that should

1067
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: be take I wouldn't use the words like wreck your badge.

1068
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: I think that's like a little I don't know.

1069
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 2: This isn't like when I hear TikTok trend. I'm thinking

1070
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 2: of like some dumb, brand new things somebody telling everybody

1071
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 2: to do, Like this has been being used for years

1072
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 2: and years and years.

1073
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's probably like a long, long history, like hundreds

1074
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: of years of things like this being used.

1075
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think the wording of this is kind

1076
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 2: of dumb. I agree, like, if you're a person using condoms,

1077
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 2: you should definitely take this into consideration.

1078
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

1079
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 2: I was surprised by it, honestly. Okay, onto your questions

1080
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 2: and emails. If you have a question or a story

1081
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,240
Speaker 2: for us, please submit it stories at mothernosdeath dot com.

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Speaker 2: The first one is from Courtney. I'm listening to this

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Speaker 2: week's show and you had a story about a teacher

1084
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 2: having sex with a teenager. Thought I would share my

1085
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 2: story with you. I met my ex boyfriend when he

1086
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 2: was a student teacher in my high school technical prep classes.

1087
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: He was going for an associate's degree in culinary and

1088
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 2: used his last semester to study under a teacher so

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Speaker 2: he could eventually take over his teaching position. I was eighteen,

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00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 2: he was twenty, so technically it was legal, but to

1091
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 2: this day I am so disgusted with myself and ashamed

1092
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 2: no one stepped in to stop what was happening. My

1093
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 2: classmates knew it was occurring, and I was actually his

1094
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 2: second victim, as he had hooked up with another student

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00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 2: before me. While we were dating, he had hooked up

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00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 2: with yet another student and then years later eventually married

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Speaker 2: a fourth person that was in that class. Once the

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00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 2: school found out, we had kept it quiet, but it

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00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 2: had come out by the end of the year. His

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00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 2: only consequence said he was dismissed from our class and

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00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 2: was not allowed to visit us on school ground. He

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00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 2: was still able to see me and other classmates in town.

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00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 2: I had lied to my parents about how I met

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00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 2: him so he didn't get in trouble, so they can't

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00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 2: be blamed for letting it happen. But I blame every

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00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 2: other adult that knew and didn't do a thing. It's seriously,

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00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 2: absolutely disgusting to me. This happened in twenty fourteen, and

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00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 2: I hope that in today's age he would have been

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00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,240
Speaker 2: charged or something, especially because the school knew and ignored

1110
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 2: it not to bring any scandal to the school. Please

1111
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 2: don't judge my immature teenage soul self too much. Thank

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00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 2: you for all you do bring awareness and sometimes laugh

1113
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 2: to everyone's day. I love listening every week. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't feel bad about this at all. Like you're

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00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: eighteen and there's like a guy that's I mean, I

1117
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like, when you're eighteen, it's just

1118
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,280
Speaker 1: kind of like that's legal, right, he's two years older

1119
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: than you. He's in a position of authority. I could

1120
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 1: see that you would find out attractive. Like, I don't know,

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00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: I just don't think that. Yeah, I mean we had

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00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 1: and you were like twelve, I'd be like, all right, dude, no,

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Speaker 1: But I don't know. I just I don't I'm not

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00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: like I feel like I feel like if we did

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Speaker 1: a poll of all of the women listening right now,

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00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: we've all been in similar situations like that.

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Speaker 2: When I was eighteen, we had a really hot substitute teacher.

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Speaker 2: So I could totally understand where you're coming from because

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00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 2: like at the time I was legal, he was very young, right,

1130
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 2: But like still, I think when you pair your story

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00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 2: with the fact that he wasn't just dating you, but

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00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 2: multiple students, clearly he's having a problem, right, And I

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00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 2: agree that you are disgusted. I don't think you did

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00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 2: anything wrong, yeah, And I mean the thing is is

1135
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 2: that like I don't really I mean, maybe you could

1136
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 2: say when somebody's an authority over you.

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00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: You shouldn't you shouldn't try to date them, but like

1138
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty years old is like like I don't

1139
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: really think that he did anything wrong either necessarily, like

1140
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: he was in a position of authority and like his

1141
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: job said that he shouldn't do it, but like so

1142
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: does every other people work together? Like the boss isn't

1143
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: supposed to get with the employees, and they did.

1144
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like if a boss got with four employees,

1145
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 2: you're like, okay, you can't find anybody else anywhere. Like

1146
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 2: that starts getting into the territory of being an absolute creep.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean whatever he's he's just like I

1148
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: don't know. I just don't think it's I just don't

1149
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:21,919
Speaker 1: think it's really that big of a deal.

1150
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 2: I don't think you did anything wrong. And I understand

1151
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 2: why you're disgusted.

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00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, well because this is the thing because now

1153
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: you're older and you're thinking about it with like older

1154
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: people eyes, right, So it's just like like and I'm

1155
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: sitting there like, Okay, my daughter's going to be eighteen

1156
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: years old in five years, and like do I want

1157
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: like no, Like if you ask me, like no, that's

1158
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: not okay, you know, but when.

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Speaker 2: I was nineteen, I very briefly dated a man in

1160
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 2: his early thirties, and at the time I thought it

1161
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 2: was great. And now that I'm in my early thirties,

1162
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 2: upon reflection, I think it's disgusting.

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00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: But that's a different story. So like when you're oh,

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00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: I thought it was I thought it was disgusting because

1165
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: I was like, like, you're looking at this guy and

1166
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: thinking that he's hot that you're dating, but he's the

1167
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 1: same exact age as your stepfather. Well yeah, but at

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00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: the time and like that to me, I was just like,

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00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: that's just like And then I would say to you, like,

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00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: could you imagine Gabe dating a nineteen year old, Like

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00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: he would absolutely have nothing to do with that. Like

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Speaker 1: it's because because like usually when men are dating women

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00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: that are that much younger, it's because they're like emotionally

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Speaker 1: arrested development like they.

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Speaker 2: Just that's that became quite obvious the older I got,

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00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 2: and especially because now my husband is the age that

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Speaker 2: guy was when I was dating him at nineteen years old,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, this is absolutely disgusting. But at the time

1179
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm nineteen and no older guys in

1180
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 2: to me, this is great. He like owns a house

1181
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 2: and blah blah blah, and that's.

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Speaker 1: A real job.

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00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 2: And like everybody I go to college with sucks and

1184
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 2: is a loser. But like now I'm older, that was

1185
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Speaker 2: completely disgusting and inappropriate.

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Speaker 1: Like when you talk about I always hear these Hollywood

1187
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Speaker 1: actors get talked about, like Leonardo DiCaprio is a good example, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he always has a girlfriend. So he's Gabe's exact age,

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Speaker 1: So he's like fifty one or something, right, he's like

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Speaker 1: fifty to fifty one years old. He always has a

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01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: girlfriend that's like twenty something and hot and whatever. And

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Speaker 1: I like, I know that maybe some men think that

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01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: that's envious or something. I don't know. I just look

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01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: at it as a complete sign of weakness on his part. Like,

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Speaker 1: you know, he'll be with the twenty year old for

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Speaker 1: a couple of years and then show mature and get

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01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: and get you know, oh I want to you know,

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01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: get married and have babies and own a house and stuff,

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01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: and his like bullshit doesn't work on them anymore, so

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Speaker 1: he has to go back down to a twenty year

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01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: old that he could like manipulate again.

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Speaker 2: Well, then then they get smart down to. But then

1203
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 2: when the when the younger of the two gets older

1204
01:00:56,320 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 2: and then realize the dynamic is quite off, that's when

1205
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 2: you're like, wow, I I'll justify it as I was

1206
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 2: nineteen years old and being dumb, Like, but.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's every single situation, Like, I don't

1208
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: think that that's every single situation.

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01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 2: I realize there are special circumstances for sure, because I

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01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 2: do think that some people are mentally more mature than

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01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 2: other people, Like, because I definitely would say even though

1212
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 2: I feel like when I was nineteen or twenty, like

1213
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 2: I did the dumb shit that I probably wouldn't do today,

1214
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 2: I still was like I had a lot of life

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01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 2: experience for a person that age.

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Speaker 1: I didn't come from a sheltered life, So I feel

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Speaker 1: like I would always be ready to date somebody that

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01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 1: was older, you know what I mean. Or like, there's

1219
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: definitely exceptions, but I just think certain ones, especially the

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Speaker 1: guys that just always have like this hot young person

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01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: on their arm. You're like, what are they hiding?

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01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying like, if God forbid, me and

1223
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 2: Ricky broke up or something at this current state and

1224
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 2: then he started dating and I ten year old. At

1225
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 2: this point, I'd be like, you were a disgusting person,

1226
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 2: like grow up.

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Speaker 1: I won'n't even I wouldn't even get mad about it.

1228
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: I'd be like, at first I would be absolutely shocked

1229
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 1: by it, but I also would just be like, Okay,

1230
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: you win. Yeah, I don't know, like it just doesn't

1231
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 1: seem like an upgrade.

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Speaker 2: But no, totally all right. Next is from Jenna listening

1233
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Speaker 2: to you guys talk about physicians and their success rates.

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01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 2: I'm an our nurse and I used to work with

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01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 2: an obgyn who didn't want to do C sections to

1236
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 2: quote keep the stats down and the rate of successful

1237
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 2: vaginal rates up. This lady will wait as long as

1238
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 2: possible to call a section and they would be the

1239
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 2: most stressful sea sections we have ever done as our staff.

1240
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 2: One of my friends who's also a nurse, had this

1241
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 2: dock for her first baby, and she tried to talk

1242
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 2: my friend into delivering a breach baby vaginally after a

1243
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 2: failed version. Luckily, my friend knew the risk and advocated

1244
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 2: for herself and had a scheduled sea section. We have

1245
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 2: also had another mom who ended up labor for so

1246
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 2: long with a cord around the neck that the baby

1247
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 2: ended up stroking during vaginal delivery. This doctor has quote

1248
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 2: officially retired, but still comes around the hospital sometimes to

1249
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 2: do some predem work lucky us. This is unacceptable.

1250
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 1: It sucks that so many nurses have to witness stuff

1251
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: like this. And it's not just with OB's but just

1252
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 1: like surgeons in general just doing things that seem not ethical.

1253
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: But like, I mean, I feel like now it's a

1254
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: little bit easier because there's all these agencies you could

1255
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: call and complain to, but I'm sure you guys see

1256
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: so much shit that you're just like, this is not

1257
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: this is not like what I learned in school to

1258
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 1: be normal practice. We were talking about that a little

1259
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 1: couple years ago. Remember that surgeon that took the wrong

1260
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,479
Speaker 1: organ out of somebody. Yeah, And you're just like there's

1261
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 1: a whole our staff there that's like watching this, and

1262
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: it's it's just like being a person that's you know,

1263
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: you're an inferior at the hospital, meaning like you're position

1264
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: isn't as high as a doctor. You work under a doctor,

1265
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: and trust me, like I've been in arguments with doctors

1266
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 1: before because sometimes like I just couldn't keep my mouth

1267
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: shut about it. But it is a very unusual position

1268
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 1: to be in because they're typically the ones that are

1269
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 1: always listened to, and then you know, what you say

1270
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: might not hold as much water as would they say.

1271
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: So being in a situation like that and just watching it,

1272
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: it is tough because because you could see that like

1273
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: something like a stroke during labor is obviously it's it's

1274
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 1: not always preventable, but when it's preventable, you feel terrible

1275
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 1: knowing that that mom wasn't the right thing, wasn't done

1276
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: for her because this doctor was like trying to do

1277
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 1: some numbers or something. But in the case of like

1278
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 1: the breach baby, aren't all breach babies considered to be

1279
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: c sections or do they try to do vagina? Well,

1280
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: I don't know one hundred percent as far as I mean,

1281
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: when you have I know that they try to flip

1282
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 1: the baby and stuff, and I don't know, I don't

1283
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: know if that's just like an automatic because people like

1284
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 1: you know we were talking about, didn't know you were

1285
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 1: pregnant and stuff like that, like people that don't know

1286
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: they're pregnant. Like sometimes the baby's breach and it gets

1287
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 1: delivered and it's completely fine. So it's not an impossible

1288
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 1: thing to do. But I don't know, Like I've never

1289
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 1: worked in that situation, so I don't really know what

1290
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 1: the protocol is.

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01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 2: They gave me some exercise to do at the public

1292
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 2: floor therapist if I want to, like try to move

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Speaker 2: him around, because yesterday he kicked my cervix so hard

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Speaker 2: that it was seriously the most uncomfortable thing. But this

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Speaker 2: exercise is crazy, like you have to like lay on

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Speaker 2: the couch and bend your body frontwards down on the floor.

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Speaker 2: It's it's impossible to do when you have a pregnant billy.

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Speaker 1: But it worked. He moved, Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: But it was you know, like he stopped on my

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Speaker 2: cervice for like three hours, and I'm like, dude, you

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Speaker 2: got you have to go anywhere else. This massively uncomfortable

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Speaker 2: for your mother. Okay, all right, lasses from Michelle. I'm

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Speaker 2: responding to quote, why do people think blood is blue?

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Speaker 2: I can answer that as a lab tech and phlebotomy

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Speaker 2: teacher in California. Back in the seventeen eighteen hundreds, the

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Speaker 2: fashion trend was pale, pale skin. This do achieve this?

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Speaker 2: Royals and people of higher status who could afford this

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Speaker 2: would paint powder their faces white. What we know now

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Speaker 2: is that powder was lead, and we know how that

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Speaker 2: lead is highly poisonous and it would make everyone sick.

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Speaker 2: They would turn quote blue, and reports would say their

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Speaker 2: blood looked weird. They said it was looking like blue purple,

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Speaker 2: when really it was probably just dark blood. It's where

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Speaker 2: the term blue bloods for royals came from. Also, seeing

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Speaker 2: your veins, because light cannot penetrate your skin, veins only

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Speaker 2: seem to look blue. But I can assure you that

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Speaker 2: blood is always red, dark or bright. It's always red.

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Speaker 2: The combo of these two facts ran for generations longtime

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Speaker 2: grocery members and Day one listener.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, Oh welcome, Day one listener. Huh, I hope, I

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Speaker 1: hope we did you proud. I hope it's getting better.

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Speaker 1: What was the first episode you listened to? I'm curious.

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Speaker 2: The first episode we recorded took so much longer than

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Speaker 2: we thought. I don't even think we dropped until nine

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Speaker 2: o'clock at night. Yeah, it took so long.

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Speaker 1: Well, look how far we've come. All right, guys, we'll

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Speaker 1: see you tomorrow for some more breaking news.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow. But also don't forget we have

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Speaker 2: our live show coming up next month in April, and

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Speaker 2: we can now announce that Joe Jacqueline and Scott Duffy

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Speaker 2: have joined us for lectures. Yeah, so we love Scott

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Speaker 2: and we love Joe Jacqueline and it's going to be

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Speaker 2: so much fun. My lecture is going to be very

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Speaker 2: much like the stuff we talk about all the time,

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Speaker 2: but really what we do inside of the lab to

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Speaker 2: analyze these cases and to help solve some of these cases.

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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be really cool. And the whole point

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Speaker 1: is to raise some money for this forensic research. So

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Speaker 1: when you look at the lectures that you're going to

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Speaker 1: be seeing, it's gonna be like a little bit more

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Speaker 1: science based, but for you guys to all understand. So

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Speaker 1: everyone's welcome. It's especially an awesome opportunity if you have

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Speaker 1: people who are interested in going into the field of forensics,

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Speaker 1: because they have summer internships there and that center is

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Speaker 1: just really amazing, great friends of ours, and we're just

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Speaker 1: really excited to be a part of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So tickets for that are available in the description

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Speaker 2: of every episode, and if you are a grocerym member,

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Speaker 2: you get a really good discount. I believe it's half off.

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Speaker 2: So the link for those discount of tickets is in

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Speaker 2: the grossroom, so.

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Speaker 1: How do they get it in the grossroom?

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Speaker 2: So you can go in the grocery room and scroll

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Speaker 2: down to the post where we announce it, or it's

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Speaker 2: on our last YouTube live post where you could access

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Speaker 2: to tickets, or you could just search new event and

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Speaker 2: the post will come.

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Speaker 1: Up there as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, cool, All right, guys, we will see you tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Please head over to Apple or Spotify, leave us a

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Speaker 2: five star review, subscribe to our YouTube channel, and send

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Speaker 2: your stories to stories at Mothernosdeath dot com.

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Speaker 1: See you tomorrow. Thank you for listening to Mother Nos Death.

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Speaker 1: As a reminder, my training is as a pathologist's assistant.

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Speaker 1: I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy

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Speaker 1: and pathology education. I am not a doctor and I

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Speaker 1: have not diagnosed or treated anyone dead or alive without

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Speaker 1: the assistance of a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website,

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Speaker 1: and social media accounts are designed to educate and inform

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Speaker 1: people based on my experience working in pathology, so they

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Speaker 1: can make healthier decisions regarding their life and well being.

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Speaker 1: Always remember that science is changing every day and the

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Speaker 1: opinions expressed in this episode are based on my knowledge

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Speaker 1: of those subjects at the time of publication. If you

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Speaker 1: are having a medical problem, have a medical question, or

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Speaker 1: having a medical lif emergency, please contact your physician or

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Speaker 1: visit an urgent care center, emergency room, or hospital. Please rate, review,

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