1 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Far Bureau Health Plans. 2 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: Plan on paying less for the coverage you need with 3 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: Far Bureau Health Plans, get a quote today at FBHP 4 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: dot com. I'm Mike Keith from Ascension Saint Thomas Sports 5 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: Park in the new Eddie George conference room. Coach Dave 6 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: McGinnis is here, Rhet Bryan is here, Ramon Foster is here, 7 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: and we are so thrilled to be joined by the 8 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: executive vice president and general manager of the Tennessee Titans, 9 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: Ran Carthon. Thank you for coming to the Eddie George room. 10 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: Only fitting that we would have you in a room 11 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: dedicated to a running back. 12 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: First, I was gonna say, you're really excited about me 13 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: beer here we are. Yes, that's always questionable, no, And 14 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 2: it was funny just getting the instructions that we're doing 15 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: in the Eddie George room and I was like, where 16 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: the hell is that? But you know, in all truthfulness, 17 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: it's really cool to, you know, be in a room 18 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: like this dedicated to, you know, such a dude that 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: I hold dear to me, who's always been a big 20 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: brother figure to me and someone that I rely on. 21 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 2: So it's pretty cool. To being here, all. 22 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: Right, So let's talk about the drinking out of the 23 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: fire hose part of it. This time last year, you're 24 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: getting the job, and it's all just sort of flying by, 25 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: your meeting everybody. You're figuring out what you're going to do, 26 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: You're getting your family situated, you're doing all those sorts 27 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: of things. This year, a new set of very specific responsibilities, 28 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: new coach in Brian Callahan, and you're drinking out of 29 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: the fire hose once again. What is going on with 30 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: Ran Carthon as we come off Senior Bowl Week last 31 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: week and now move into this the first full week 32 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: in February. 33 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: Well, just left out of a special Teams coordinator interview. 34 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: You know, it wrapped up about as perfect as it 35 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: could right on time. Allow me to get up here 36 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: on time to meet with you guys. But you know, 37 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: I guess, like you said, to use the drinking water 38 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: out of a fire hose first, first and foremost, I 39 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 2: probably would never try that to even to even know 40 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: what that's like, but you know, but it's honestly, it's 41 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 2: it's all I've known so far in these first couple 42 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: of years. So this is what you know. My last 43 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: January was this is what this one is. And you know, 44 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: hopefully this time next year we'll still be playing, you know, 45 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: but if not, there'll be some normalcy, you know, where 46 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: you can go into the off season. But you know, 47 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: like you said, Senior Bowls. Although I wasn't present, you know, 48 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: I'm still getting updates, making sure I'm watching guys that 49 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: flash while being in and out of you know, different 50 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: coaching interviews, speaking with different coaches, speaking with different agents. 51 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: It's been cool because this process has allowed Brian and 52 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: I to really just sit back and connect and you know, 53 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: build our relationship with you know, no one being here, 54 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: and you know, again having these moments to spend with 55 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: these potential coaches that we're bringing in and has been exciting. 56 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: I keep telling people it's like the It's like the 57 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 2: musician that's on tour. You know, you've been on a 58 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: hundred city tour. You're tired as hell, but when you 59 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 2: go on stage, you know, you find that energy. You perform, 60 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 2: and when you come off the stage, you faint, you know, 61 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: and then you do it all over again the next day. 62 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: But this is this is the time where you you know, 63 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: you cut your teeth. This is the time where you 64 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: make the sacrifices for it the payoff later. 65 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: Why was it more important for Ran Carthon and Brian 66 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: Callahan to be in Nashville last week rather than being 67 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: mobile at the Senior. 68 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: Bolt because we still building the staff, you know, which 69 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: is first and foremost. Was just really important. You know, 70 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: our job as scouts is to go out and find 71 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: the players and help set the table, but it's also 72 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: we need to have a direction, you know, and what 73 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: we want those players to look like, what's type of 74 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: schemes we want to run, And the only way we're 75 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: able to do that is if we have coaches. And 76 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: so I felt it was important for me to dedicate 77 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: myself to Brian and be here and help him in 78 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: any way possible. And the cool thing was he felt 79 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: it was important for every coach that you may want 80 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: to hire on the staff for me to get a 81 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: chance to meet them, ask my questions, for them to 82 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: see if they're a culture fit for what we're trying 83 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:06,839 Speaker 2: to build here. 84 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 3: Ran on this side of it as a former player, 85 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 3: when you got to the front office and the scouting 86 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 3: and just building teams and just setting guys out to 87 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: be their own, was there certain stuff that you saw 88 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: as a player, as a younger guy in this league, 89 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 3: that you said, if I ever get the opportunity, I'm 90 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 3: gonna do these things. And are is this why you're 91 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 3: forward thinking? And the stuff that you've done here in 92 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 3: Nashville so far. 93 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: Well, my plan experience played a huge part in how I, 94 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: you know, plan to do business moving forward. I think 95 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,679 Speaker 2: I've said, you know a lot in the past about 96 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: not wanting to discuss family business in the public. You know, 97 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: you saw that. I saw it throughout my career. You know, 98 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 2: guys contracts being talked about in the media, being talked 99 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: about in the locker room, and just you know, want 100 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 2: to keep our family business in house. It's gonna be 101 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 2: enough noise from the outside that can add you know, 102 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: gas to the fire, if you will, because those are 103 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: contentious moments, you know, when you're talking to a player, 104 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 2: and players, you know want you to see their value 105 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 2: and their words, so to speak. But then there's a 106 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: market for that, you know, and having to get them 107 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 2: to understand. So those can be contentious moments. You know, 108 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 2: from within the house. You don't need anything from the 109 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: outside playing a part. But then also, you know, a 110 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: player like myself who was on five teams in three years, 111 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: kind of bounced around. So I've been cutting every which 112 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 2: way possible. And I always said that we want to 113 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: take a human approach to that process and just show, 114 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 2: you know, just show everybody the proper respect, you know, 115 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: no matter if they're the number one player on the 116 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: roster or the fifty third player on the roster. 117 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 3: And I guess to follow that up to it all 118 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 3: this happened. How has this year been for you? Because 119 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,679 Speaker 3: nobody really acts, They just assume the job is getting done. 120 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 3: But you have kids, you have a family, You've had 121 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 3: to entertain do all these things. What has this here 122 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: been like for rand Cop especially with the coaching change 123 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 3: in the search right now too. 124 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 2: It's been a lot to be honest, like you said, 125 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 2: you know, transitioning a family from from California. We had 126 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 2: been in California six years, you know, get back here 127 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 2: to the South, you know, having a having kids go 128 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 2: to college which you know, never been away from home, 129 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,119 Speaker 2: and balancing that schedule, and then moving to a new place, 130 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 2: finding school, finding community, you know, and that's the family side, 131 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: and then coming into you know, a new job opportunity, 132 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 2: which I've never been a GM before, so it was 133 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: a full long learning experience. And so it was a lot, 134 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 2: a lot of moving parts. Super appreciative of the support 135 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: systems that I have, and you know, one the major 136 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 2: one being my wife. Being able to hold down the 137 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: fort and you know, every day wasn't easy for her. 138 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 2: She recently told me that I haven't been a good 139 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: husband and father doing this coaching search because just just time, 140 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: just time away and you know, us was, you know, 141 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 2: really looking forward to having some time to get away 142 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: as a family, which we haven't had yet. But her also, 143 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: you know, she was saying that tongue in cheek, but 144 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 2: her also understanding this business and what it takes. But 145 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: then the support system here in the building, you know, 146 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: all the great people from you know, people upstairs to 147 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: you know, the guys on the first floor, you know, 148 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 2: and you know whether that was you know, coaches coming 149 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: in or the coaches that are you know, unfortunately leaving, 150 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: like the bond was was there, you know, And you know, 151 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: I take pride in being someone to carry myself a 152 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: certain way and show everybody the proper respect, and I 153 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: think has been reciprocated. But it's been it's been a lot. 154 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: And but it's a learning experience. It's a learning experience, 155 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: and you know, it makes your battle tested. You know, 156 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: I've had a bunch of really good friends around the 157 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 2: league that are gms that have gave me advice from 158 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: the very beginning, and that you know, like you said, 159 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: I have a few who just called me sometimes just 160 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: hey man, how you doing, how you holding up? You know? 161 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 2: And and so I always try to do that for guys. 162 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: And you know, you look at a guy like Adam Peters, 163 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: who just got hired in Washington, who has spent so 164 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: much time with over these last six years, and now 165 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: that's me turning around calling him saying, hey man, how 166 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: you holding up? You know, and giving him some of 167 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: the some of the best advice I felt. 168 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 4: I got ran with the thought in mind of what 169 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 4: you talked about the day of Brian Callahan's introductory press or, 170 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 4: where you said in the interview process with him that 171 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 4: one of those interviews it turned from an interview into 172 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 4: this is how we're going to work to plan. You 173 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 4: just started riffing off of each other. You mentioned how 174 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 4: important it was for to put together this coaching staff. 175 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 4: While Chad Brinker and Anthony Robinson have been in Mobile 176 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 4: last week. What has that been likes since we last 177 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 4: talked to you about the relationship that's growing between you 178 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 4: and Brian Callahan. 179 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: It's been really cool for us to you know, spend 180 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: that time together, you know, here and out here in 181 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: the building and you know, as we get these coaching 182 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 2: coaches in and you know, talk to them. We've had 183 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: a you know, a ton of zoom interviews. We've had 184 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 2: you know a few in persons that are still going. 185 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 2: You know, it's been cool for us to kind of 186 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 2: play off of each other, you know, and learn how 187 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: to feed off of each other throughout the interview process. 188 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: You know, you know, we neither one of us have 189 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 2: ever interviewed coaches from that magnitude from you know, that's 190 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: going to play an important part for us before so 191 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: us being able to sit down, formulate a script, you know, 192 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: and then just see how we fit in off of 193 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 2: each other and just being being fluid and not being 194 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 2: robots and just reading questions off of a sheet of 195 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: paper and just you know being able to you know, 196 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 2: learn different segues and how to you know, get a 197 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: coach to go into a more detail or you know, 198 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 2: things like that, and and then just connecting on a 199 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: personal level. 200 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 5: Uh. 201 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 2: We just in this interview here, you know, we have 202 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: so many similarities that is kind of creepy that we 203 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 2: didn't know about. And then just even in this this 204 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: recent interview we just had with a coach, we both 205 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 2: learned that both of our dads are originally from Chicago 206 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: and from the same side of town, you know. And 207 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: it's like I said, we have a lot of similarities. 208 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: It's pretty creepy. Uh if I can say, but again 209 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 2: a like minded person, you know, and that and that 210 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: the communication is is really strong. 211 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 4: And with that process in mind, you talk about you 212 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 4: don't want to just work off of a script as 213 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 4: you're interviewing perspective coaches for this staff. I'm sure I 214 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 4: have in my mind as you're saying this, is it 215 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 4: a thing where it's like, Okay, that last interview, I 216 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 4: like to where you went this direction. I'd like to 217 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 4: do you just kind of work together that way you 218 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 4: have the presentation to get the guys that you want. 219 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and you know, I'd be remiss if I if 220 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: I didn't say, like the football part, and coach Matt 221 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: could have texted this the football part, the x's and 222 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 2: o's part pretty much takes care of itself, right. You 223 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 2: know who the good coaches are, you know where the 224 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 2: good schemes are. But like I've always said, we care 225 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 2: about the people. You know. Everybody talks culture, culture, culture, 226 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 2: but culture is the people, you know, and so we 227 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 2: want to make sure we're getting the right people. You know. 228 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: And then you go through and you're interviewing people and 229 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: you realize his connections, You realize my connections and our 230 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: ability to you know, get people on the phone that 231 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 2: can help us figure out the people. Right, you can 232 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: turn on the tape and see what the ex's and 233 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: o's are. There's only so many different football drills you 234 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: can do to get you ready. But that's been our 235 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: driving forces to make sure that we're getting the right people. 236 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: And I thought it was really cool of him, even 237 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 2: the coaches that he has history with, you know, and 238 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 2: not just saying, hey, I'm going to flat out hire 239 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: this guy. It's no, I want to get this guy 240 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: in front of you so you can feel him and 241 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 2: also cover his blind spots if it's someone he's worked 242 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 2: with for so long, like, hey, you know, did I 243 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 2: miss anything? Am I missing anything? And for again, I'm 244 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: not in there asking questions, Hey, can you talk me 245 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: through the this protection and how would you adjust. I'm 246 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 2: more so listening, seeing, you know, and I'm looking at him, 247 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: understanding what he wants and how they're going to be 248 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: able to fit in with him, not only schematically, but 249 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 2: how they're going to be able to support him throughout 250 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: the building. 251 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 5: The thought process that both of you had have staying 252 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 5: here in the building and being able to gather the 253 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 5: people to talk to and have a plan on it 254 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 5: was really good. Because when I got my head coaching job, 255 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 5: I went to the Senior Bowl, which is a major 256 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 5: mistake because because all of a sudden you can't move. 257 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 5: You can't move, and you can't you can't really parse through. 258 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 2: The people that you want to talk to. 259 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 5: You've got you've got a group in place that that 260 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 5: and you guys we talked, we've talked before about you've 261 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 5: already put the backboard together. 262 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 2: I mean, there's a board up, and. 263 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 5: You'll you'll start talking through the prospects that that you'll see, 264 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 5: and you keep a hand on that. But the fact 265 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 5: that you're able to sit here and sift through people 266 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 5: and do it in an orderly fashion, that's really a 267 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 5: lot better than just being inundated down at the Singer Bowl. 268 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 5: And I just want to get that out because I've 269 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 5: been asked so many times, you know, well, why why 270 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 5: wouldn't they be down there? The other thing that I 271 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 5: was asked when I was down there because you weren't, 272 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 5: is who they're going to hire? Matt, could you could 273 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 5: you talk to Ran for me? And I said no, 274 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 5: I don't get to talk to Ran anymore. So that's 275 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 5: just about exactly where it is. But to me, it 276 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 5: was a really good plan that you had both of 277 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 5: you guys to stay here and do it in an 278 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 5: orderly fashion. 279 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: And you know, well, first off, I promise you I'll 280 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: triple the amount of calls that you have about who 281 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 2: we're hiring. I promise you I got more than you did. 282 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: But you know, again, in this day and age, you know, 283 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 2: there's there's film, everything's recorded, you know, so it's not like, no, 284 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: we were not there in mobile, but we're going to 285 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 2: be able to go back and watch every practice, be 286 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 2: able to watch every you know, every player. And then 287 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 2: with the technology now it's if you want to just 288 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 2: hone in on one single player, we'll have the ability 289 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: to just click that player and see every practice rep 290 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 2: this person has had on special teams and every drill 291 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 2: that they were in, so we'll be able to see it. 292 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: It's not like the Singer Bowl will not be watched 293 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: by the two of us. It's just at that moment 294 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: we were not down in Mobile because again we're here 295 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: trying to figure out this coaching staff, which is coming 296 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 2: to you know, coming together nicely, I feel. And that's 297 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 2: that's that's very very important. That's very very important because again, 298 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 2: you know, if we're just out there scouting with no 299 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: direction of the scout and then you know, again it 300 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: goes back to what I talked about, hunting at the 301 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 2: same time, isn't the same as hunting together. We're just 302 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: all out there hunting because this is this is this 303 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 2: is what we're supposed to do. 304 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 5: Well, that's another huge aspect of it, and it's extremely 305 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 5: extremely important. You know, last week we just we all 306 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 5: got back from we're sitting up in the stands and 307 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 5: we're watching and if people have never been, they don't 308 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 5: understand that the Singer Bowl is like a county fair. 309 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 5: I mean, you've got to focus on one thing at 310 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 5: a time because there's a lot of rides going on. 311 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 5: But the technology is there now. 312 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: I mean I experienced it when I. 313 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 5: Was coaching you as just what you said, you can 314 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 5: focus in now when you're in an environment where you 315 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 5: can focus. Sometimes it's hard to focus down there. It 316 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 5: really is because there's a lot lot going on. 317 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: And believe me, if. 318 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 5: You'd have been down there, you wouldn't have seen the field. 319 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: Well, what's interesting is, just before you answer, Ran, there 320 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: are so many more media people there now than NFL people. 321 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: For example, the Rams I think sent three total people 322 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: to Mobile. They don't send their coaches and they don't 323 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: send the majority of their scouting staff. And other teams 324 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: are doing the same thing. The media presence is massive 325 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: because the media gets how important the Senior Bowl is now. 326 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: But the teams are pairing back in order to I guess, 327 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: not tip their hand, be able to do things like 328 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: the Titans are doing getting your coaching staff in place. 329 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: It has changed in that way. 330 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I'm glad you said it because I didn't 331 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: want to say it and feel like I was throwing 332 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: other under other teams under the bus, because I know 333 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 2: for one thousand percent fact that we were not the 334 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: only team that who's head coaching GM weren't there, And 335 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 2: again this is this is different, This is a different time. 336 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: This is a head coaching change. This is a head 337 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: coach that's being a head coach for the first time, 338 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 2: you know, and will be there next year, you know. 339 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: And it's it's not like, it's not like this is 340 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 2: a thought process moving forward, and who knows, it may 341 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 2: become a thought process moving forward. But again, I myself personally, 342 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 2: I like to you know, get to get to know 343 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 2: these players as much as possible. To me, the interview 344 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: portion is what's really important because again you can go 345 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: back and watch the tape and see how guys progressed 346 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 2: over the week, but getting your hands on the person 347 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: a lot of these guys, this is your first exposure 348 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: to them. So being able to have those interview moments 349 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 2: to me is the most important part, you know. But 350 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 2: again this is this is a very important time, a 351 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: very critical time, you know in our organization is you know, 352 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 2: we're just hired a new head coach, a first time 353 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 2: head coach. But being here being supportive and helping him, 354 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 2: you know, put this staff together, to me is just 355 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: as important as you know, sitting out and watching practice. 356 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 5: Let me just told this in there to all of 357 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 5: these guys that were at the senior boat will be 358 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 5: at the combine. 359 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely the ones that count the most, they'll. 360 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: Be there as the kids say facts. 361 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: You're let's stick to the otp Our guest is Titans 362 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: executive vice president and general manager Ran Carthon. We remind 363 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: you that it's always game on with Duncan, So grab 364 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: a coffee and kick off the action. Whether that's drinking 365 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: a cup of coffee on your way to the game 366 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: or grabbing one to go before watching the game at home, 367 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: Duncan is always there to help you get your game on. 368 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: Just like the pros. We need to be at our 369 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: best come game time, which is why Duncan is the 370 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: most important part of your game day ritual because it's 371 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: always the best call for football America runs on Duncan, 372 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: Rant Carthon. You are in charge of the coaching staff. 373 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: You are in charge of the fifty three man roster, 374 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: and so as you begin to procure players through the 375 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: free agency process next month towards the draft April twenty 376 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: five through twenty seventh. Throughout the course of that weekend, 377 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: the undrafted rookies building toward the ninety man roster for 378 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: the off season. We've heard in a twenty five year 379 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: period from general managers and head coaches here the things 380 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: that they want to do as far as the traits 381 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: they're looking for in football players. I want to take 382 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: it a step further because you're moving forward in this 383 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: and having more of a say so in the player 384 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:08,479 Speaker 1: the Titans grab more so than just tough, dependable, smart, 385 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: and all the things the football character, all those things 386 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: that matter. Do you come up with what a Titans 387 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: receiver looks like? Runs like plays like? Do you come 388 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: up with something that set in terms of the physical 389 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: part of it that you want for Brian Callahan on 390 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: offense and defense. 391 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: I think we come up with that. We because again 392 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 2: I'm not drawing any plays, I'm not doing any schematics, 393 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: I'm not making any halftime adjustments. I think if you 394 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 2: look at what Brian has had in Cincinnati, which is 395 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: you know what Zach brought over, you know with him 396 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 2: from his time at the Rams, and you know, I 397 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: was a part of that transition period when Sean McVay 398 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 2: came in with the Rams and Zach was on the staff, 399 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 2: and one of the first meetings we had under Sean 400 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 2: McVay was, Hey, this is what our current roster looks like. 401 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 2: Here's our evaluations on the current roster, and let's just 402 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 2: use a receiver position as the example. But here's what 403 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 2: we want in our ex receiver. Here's what we're looking 404 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 2: for our ex receiver to look like. Here are the 405 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 2: traits that we're looking for. And it was an education 406 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 2: system on what it takes to be successful in the 407 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 2: systems that they want to run. Right, So what we're 408 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: going to do here is we're going to do the 409 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: same thing. We refer to them as profile tapes, So 410 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: every position will have a profile tape as to what 411 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 2: that position specific is that we need to have for 412 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: us to build a successful side of the ball, if 413 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 2: you will. And so that's what we're going to do 414 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 2: moving forward. And again it shows you the importance of 415 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 2: being able to have the coaches here in the building 416 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 2: and be able to do those things. And we're going 417 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 2: to meet as a full staff. We're in a very 418 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 2: very unique situation and being here in the city of Nashville, 419 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 2: where it's pretty safe to say, probably with the exception 420 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 2: of Cincinnati, because they have a very small scouting staff, 421 00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 2: every single one of our scouts live here with the 422 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: option of two people, and so it makes it that 423 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 2: much easier for us to have these meetings with our 424 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 2: coaching staff, for us all to get on the same page, 425 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 2: for us all to speak the same language. So as 426 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,239 Speaker 2: we're out there looking at players, we know what it 427 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 2: takes to play X in our scheme. We know what 428 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: it takes to play Z, we know what it takes 429 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: to play F. We know what the left tackle should 430 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,959 Speaker 2: look like, and on and on and on, and so 431 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 2: that puts us in a unique situation where we can 432 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 2: quickly get on the same page, you know, as a 433 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 2: new staff. Because the the the part about you know, 434 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: where we're at right now. We just spent the entire 435 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 2: last spring and fall like scouting for a different scheme. 436 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 2: So now with this our board has to reset, and 437 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 2: our board has to reset based off of, you know, 438 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 2: the schemes that Brian Callahan and his staff on a run. 439 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 2: And so we'll be you know, put in a unique 440 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 2: situation where we could do that quickly because all of 441 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 2: our people live here. 442 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 5: At the Senior Bowl last week, we had the opportunity 443 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 5: Chad break or sat down with us, you know, for 444 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 5: for quite a while, and it was eye opening to 445 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 5: all of us about what he is bringing and we 446 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 5: got into the analytics part of it, and the profile 447 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 5: part of it starts coming into that analytics part of it. 448 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 5: Can you speak to that a little bit, because we 449 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 5: were extremely impressed just with the time and we spent 450 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,479 Speaker 5: quite a bit of time with him, and I know 451 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 5: that's going to be something that's going to evolve here. 452 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. And what that does is it gives us 453 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 2: another component of scouting, right because I mean, obviously, you know, 454 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: we're all you know, I would say, quote unquote old 455 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 2: school football guys if you will, and we trust our 456 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 2: eye and what we see on the tape. But then 457 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 2: it gives us moments where you're deep in the training 458 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 2: camp and every team is at ninety men and you 459 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 2: could do the math on how many people that is 460 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 2: playing professional football and let's be honest, God only made 461 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 2: so many, you know, good football players, right, But it'll 462 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 2: give us a unique situation to be able to use 463 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 2: the data to help you know, hey, here are our 464 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 2: key three things that we're looking for in a player 465 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 2: that has to fit for us, and then being able 466 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: to use the data to just quickly input that and 467 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: then it'll spit us out of a a list of 468 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 2: every position, and hey, if we get strapped at a place, 469 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 2: we know that these three guys are immediate profile fits 470 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 2: for us, and it doesn't have We don't have to 471 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: sit there and just pour through so much of the 472 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: film because a the film has already been watching. We 473 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 2: have a grade on them. But then we'll be able 474 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 2: to use the data to help drive the decision to 475 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: get them in here. 476 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 3: Raan, you mentioned the second go about first time head 477 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 3: coach Brian Callahan, and there's a bunch of first that's 478 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 3: happening around this building and the city and in an 479 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 3: NFL too. How's it been watching the evolve from where 480 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 3: guys can get their first break into the thirties or 481 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 3: later to where now you mentioned a head coach at 482 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 3: thirty six, thirty nine, forty to where the communication on 483 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 3: their side is big for the players. But also you 484 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 3: back that up, the player has also changed too. The 485 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 3: way you guys and I came up was you. 486 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: It was a lot rougher. 487 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 3: I would think technology somewhat exposed guys to a lot 488 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 3: of stuff and knowledge too, so you got to communicate different. 489 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 3: How does that effect the way a first time head 490 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 3: coach and Brian in Callahan and their connection to his 491 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 3: younger generation will benefit this team. 492 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,239 Speaker 2: Well, I think for him, you know, if you look 493 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 2: at it, he's been he's been the OC you know, 494 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: for a head coach that called the plays right. So 495 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: he had to take him of a holistic approach and 496 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 2: being able to not only manage the staff, you know, 497 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 2: for Zach, but he had to touch every player right 498 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: and in doing so, he's he's spending more time with 499 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 2: the younger generation of players. But I think which I 500 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 2: think gives him a unique perspective on how to deal with, 501 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 2: handle and motivate you know what we call the new 502 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: age player. I feel like an old head now saying that, 503 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 2: but you know, again, it offers a unique perspective. I 504 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: think our staff, you know, the division of labors, you know, 505 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 2: it's we got experience, we got some youth. You know, 506 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 2: we got guys from different backgrounds, Guys who may have 507 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 2: been primarily in college, you know, who've only been in 508 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 2: the NFL a couple of years. And again it brings 509 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 2: a unique perspective, you know, to the staff. And one 510 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: thing that I did back during the fall was, you know, 511 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 2: spent time talking to a bunch of friends of mine 512 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 2: that are college coaches, right to have a better understanding 513 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 2: of when you're bringing these young guys in, like what's 514 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: the best way to connect, what's the best way to 515 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 2: reach them, How can we do that to help, you know, 516 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 2: arm the coaching staff with as much information as possible, 517 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 2: you know, on these guys. And I think you know 518 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 2: the same should be said for the coaches you know 519 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 2: and their ability to connect. Cause again, this will and 520 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 2: will always be what this is and will always be 521 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 2: a people business, right, and you have to have the 522 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 2: people right, and you have to have the right people 523 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 2: in the building, and then the rest will fall into place. 524 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 4: Ran with the modern player in mind at Ramone's point 525 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 4: about the player has changed because the landscape in college 526 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 4: has changed with transfer, portal, nil, those kinds of things. 527 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 4: How important is it on your list of traits that 528 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 4: football character is a thing? That they love football? 529 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: That's number one? Just because if you don't love football, 530 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 2: then I mean that kind of automatically eliminates you, because 531 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 2: this is professional football, this is what you You're not 532 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 2: going to class. We don't have the GA that's going 533 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 2: to come pick you up and drop you off at 534 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 2: sociology one on one. You know, your job is football, 535 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 2: and so you have to love it. You're here, you 536 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 2: spend a lot of time doing it. We don't have 537 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 2: the twenty hour rule, you know, and you have to 538 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 2: be able to not only take what's in the building 539 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 2: and do that, but to be a true pro, you 540 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 2: got to go home and study it. You know, you 541 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 2: got to sacrifice and give up your time, you know, 542 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 2: during the year to be great at what you do. 543 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 2: So that passion for football, it's it's paramount. You gotta 544 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 2: have that. And that's the number one thing that we're 545 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: that we go to and when we're looking at obviously, 546 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 2: again the player is the player, the playmakers, all that 547 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 2: stuff is going to stand out. But the number one 548 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 2: thing you go to as you look and you see 549 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 2: what that football character grade is and if it's low 550 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: and he's a good football player, we got to figure 551 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 2: out why is it low? And are we right? And 552 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 2: are our sources right? And again that goes back to 553 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 2: being in a place where you can spend time with 554 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 2: these guys and really figure it out, because sometimes these 555 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: is a misunderstood or sometimes you know, they just might 556 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: not have connected with the person that's you know, disseminating information. 557 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 2: And so again, the more you spend time with these guys, 558 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 2: the better you can make that decision. But the football 559 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 2: character is number one. 560 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 3: Is that also a testament if you review your last 561 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 3: year's draft when you look at a guy like Will 562 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 3: Levice from taj to Josh Waally to all the way 563 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,959 Speaker 3: down to Colton Dale, the last pick from a smaller school, 564 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 3: is that the expectation moving forward as far as the 565 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: contributions and how they will be a Titan and contribute 566 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 3: as a young pro. 567 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm glad you brought up our draft class 568 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 2: from last year because all those guys love football. I 569 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 2: think they've shown you, guys that from the moment that 570 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 2: they've stepped in. You watch those guys work, You saw 571 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 2: them progress, you know, throughout the season, and that will 572 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 2: be you know, a common theme for guys that we're 573 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 2: bringing in is their love of football and you know, 574 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: and their level of passion for it. So again that 575 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 2: has to stand out. That has to be paramount because 576 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 2: you know it stuff gets rough sometimes, you know, and 577 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 2: we want guys that love it enough to just figure 578 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: out how we're going to break through that wall. And 579 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 2: you know, if we got guys in here that don't 580 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 2: you know, what's the saying, One one bad apple spoils 581 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 2: a bunch. Yeah, we can't. We can't have that, you know, 582 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 2: we can't have that. So we'll continue to, you know, 583 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 2: bring in guys that love the that love the game, 584 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 2: that want to give everything. I just saw a clip of, 585 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 2: you know, earlier this morning, of Taj being at the 586 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 2: Senior Bowl. You know, this is his off time, you 587 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: know what I mean, He's he's at the Senior Bowl. 588 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 2: He's there, you know, supporting you know, his former teammates. 589 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 2: But again, that's a that's another level of being passionate 590 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,479 Speaker 2: about the game, you know, wanting to be around it. 591 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: That he's taking some of his much needed time away 592 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,719 Speaker 2: and he's still around it. Like so that's just an 593 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 2: example of having high football passion. 594 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 5: All the stuff that you've been doing since you've been hired, 595 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 5: and as you said, it's it has been. It's been exhilarating, 596 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 5: but it's also been exhausting. But just from the outside 597 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 5: looking in, it looks like you've got a systemic approach 598 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 5: that's working pretty well. Is that a pretty good concept 599 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 5: that I'm that I'm seeing of. 600 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 2: Course, And I mean, Mack, you've you've known me longer 601 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 2: than everybody here, and you know you've been a part 602 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 2: of you know, showing me the way and how to 603 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 2: do things, and so you know, this has always been 604 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,479 Speaker 2: the way I've gone about my business. You know, I 605 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 2: know there are some that want to hear from me more, 606 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: and I probably should do that, not saying that the 607 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 2: way I did everything was right. But at the same time, 608 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 2: I have a job to do, you know, and that's 609 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 2: what I'm going to ultimately be judged on, is about 610 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 2: the players that we bring in here and the wins 611 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 2: and losses in the stadium. And if if we're not 612 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 2: winning games, I gladly take the criticism, you know. But 613 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 2: at the same time, I have a job to do, 614 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: and that's what I'm always focused on. You know, I'm 615 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: in here. You know, I've met with you guys a 616 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 2: lot throughout the year, and so you guys have been 617 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 2: in my office and you see you you see the 618 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 2: work that we're doing and what we're trying to do. 619 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 2: And again it's it's all new, and we have systems 620 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 2: to put in place, and you know, again it's now 621 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 2: it's going to be a little bit of a reset, 622 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 2: you know, because we were doing things a certain way 623 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 2: last year and now, you know, we got to reset 624 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 2: it and adjust to what we have now, and hopefully 625 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 2: this will be the way that we'll do things for 626 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 2: the next ten to fifteen years. 627 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: Seed Geek is now the official ticketing partner of the 628 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Whether you're buying or selling tickets to Titans 629 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: games or any other live event in Nashville, seat geek 630 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: is the place to do it. Seed Geek the new 631 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: official ticketing partner of the Tennessee Titans. So Titans fans 632 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: can fan Ran Carthon, I want you to take the 633 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: ot people behind the curtain for just a second. And 634 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: you've hired Dinnard Wilson as your defensive coordinator. And I 635 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: was told that in the interviews multiple head coaching candidates 636 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: had him as their defensive coordinator on a prospective staff. 637 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: Would you confirm that as true? 638 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, Okay, I don't have to say the number 639 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: just no. 640 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 5: No. 641 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: He's a hot name in other words, and well respected 642 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: among a lot of guys from all. 643 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 2: Over the league. Absolutely, And you know Mack was a 644 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 2: part of hiring Dinard and giving Dinard his first head 645 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: coaching job, and you talk about I thought you were 646 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 2: going somewhere else when you said behind the curtain. So 647 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 2: I let you, guys even further behind the curtain. I'm 648 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 2: not in the National Football League as a scout if 649 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 2: it wasn't for Dinard Wilson. And here's why we both 650 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 2: were finalists for the pro scouting job in Atlanta. Right 651 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 2: at this time, I'm married, I have children, and you know, 652 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: we're making nickels, right, and Dinard was single, you know, 653 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 2: fresh off the field, and so you could I could 654 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 2: feel that they were skewing in that way for the 655 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 2: work and the amount of hours that you that you 656 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: put in. And Dinard also had an offer from Chicago, 657 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 2: and he ultimately took the job in Chicago, which left 658 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 2: me as the the guy in Atlanta. So that's how 659 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 2: I got the job in Atlanta. That Dinnard was one 660 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 2: hour was two and he took the scouting job in Chicago, 661 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 2: which opened the door for me in Atlanta. And then 662 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: four years later we're in the RAMS building together, all right. 663 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: So I want you to tell the OT people how 664 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: you and Brian Callahan and the Titans locked up Dennard 665 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: Wilson to be the defensive coordinator of the Titans when 666 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: he clearly had plenty of other places that wanted him 667 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: for the DC job. 668 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 2: I'll tell you, you know, him understanding Coach Callahan having gone 669 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 2: against him, you know, twice this past season, and understanding 670 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 2: who he is and the type of offense he brings, 671 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 2: and you know, just working with the first time head 672 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 2: coach and allowing you know, two guys to grow together. 673 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,959 Speaker 2: You know, that was that was a key piece. And 674 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 2: then just you know the comfort of knowing me and 675 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 2: having a relationship we have and just knowing that I'm 676 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 2: always gonna be honest and upfront with him about everything, 677 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 2: and you know, I think that kind of kind of 678 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: helped it was it was a fifty to fifty thing, 679 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 2: and his respect for Coach Callahan and his respect for 680 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 2: me coming in and so it was a huge gift 681 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 2: for us. It's like you said, it was you know 682 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 2: multiple teams that wanted him. Well, I'll say multiple coaches 683 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 2: that had him on their perspective list. But then even 684 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 2: after this thing starts to come into shape, you know, 685 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 2: there were teams that were still you know, competing for him. 686 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 2: And you know, the one thing I've learned throughout this 687 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 2: whole process is you know, striking first. You know, if 688 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 2: you looked at our process for the head coaching search, 689 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 2: you know, Rapes gets let's let's go on a Tuesday. 690 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 2: We're pull a late night on Tuesday, you know, evening, 691 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 2: you know, pretty late early Wednesday, getting the list together, 692 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 2: putting our format and I playing together to do it, 693 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 2: you know, do a head coaching search and interview and 694 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 2: spending the rest of Wednesday and Thursday on that, and 695 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 2: then our first intered he was the Friday. So it 696 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 2: was quick, but it allowed us to strike, you know 697 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 2: when we did, and be able to you know, get 698 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: a guy like coach Callahan, because had we waited any later, 699 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 2: then now we got some serious competition. You know, we 700 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 2: got some serious competition. And luckily for us, this was 701 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 2: a place he wanted to be. You could feel that 702 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 2: early and he was a guy that we coveted, you know, 703 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 2: and so we were able to make it all happen. 704 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 2: And you know, he and I we had a moment 705 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 2: you know, yesterday as we're you know, getting some news 706 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 2: on some potential coaches and whatnot and just sitting back 707 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 2: and kind of exhale for a quick moment is like, damn, 708 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 2: this is really coming together, you know, and this is 709 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 2: really coming together for us, and we still got work 710 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 2: to do and you know, but it's just like I said, 711 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 2: it's just been awesome of you know, working with him 712 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 2: and you know, helping more than anything, because I'm I'm 713 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 2: a server. I'm a server. I like to serve, and 714 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 2: I think that you know, GM position is a servant position, 715 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 2: you know, because you're not only serving the coach, You're 716 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 2: serving your staff, You're serving the owner, you're serving the president, 717 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 2: you're serving the fan base, and so it's a serving position. 718 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 2: But me being able to play a small part in 719 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 2: allowing his stream to come to fruition, it's been cool. 720 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: But rand one more from me. You're a recruiter. You're 721 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: a recruiter by nature. If you were on a college staff, 722 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: you would be one of those guys they would be 723 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: talking about all over college football because you can close. 724 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: You're a relationship guy and you're a recruiter. Is that, 725 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: without ringing your own bell, is that one of the 726 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 1: number one strengths you think you bring to the job 727 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,760 Speaker 1: as executive vice president general manager. 728 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this because I feel like saying recruiter 729 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:47,439 Speaker 2: sounds kind of bad. 730 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: Wow. 731 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 2: It just makes me feel like I'm like, I'm I 732 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 2: don't I don't want to offend anybody, but just the 733 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 2: term of used car salesman, you know what I mean. 734 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 2: But no, I'll say this. My life has been built 735 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:07,439 Speaker 2: on relationships. Had to. I was forced to be this way. 736 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 2: My stepfather was in the military, you know. And again, 737 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 2: not to get off track with the question, I bring 738 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 2: it back home. You know, everyone knows my dad mo. 739 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 2: You know that he played in the league and and 740 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 2: all of that. But you know, my stepfather, Robert goodlowis 741 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 2: who raised me, you know, twenty six years in the 742 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 2: United States Navy. So I was a military brat, had 743 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 2: to move every three to four years. So I would 744 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 2: come into the neighborhood as the new guy, and by 745 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 2: the time you know, his his term was up, I 746 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 2: was the old guy in the neighborhood. So I was 747 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 2: always having to meet new people, you know, and I 748 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 2: was always you know, put in new in different environments. 749 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 2: So I had to learn how to navigate. And so 750 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 2: I grew up, you know, around a wide range of 751 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 2: people and being able to create those lasting relationships have 752 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 2: always been key to me. And you know, and I 753 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 2: see the benefit of it, and you know, and I 754 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 2: don't just build relationships. I don't have transactional relationship. I 755 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 2: have you know, lifetime, you know, meaningful relationships just because 756 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 2: just my love of people. But you know, the way 757 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 2: I was raised allowed me to, you know, be able 758 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 2: to connect with people from a wide different ranges of backgrounds. 759 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 2: And I do think that helps us, you know, in 760 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 2: the grand scheme of. 761 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 3: Things, when you look back at this year next year 762 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 3: sometimes that you've had as far as hiring guys, Man, 763 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 3: I'm somewhat excited now about it because looking up the 764 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 3: history of some of these coaches like coach Callahan, of 765 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 3: course you bring up the Nark Wilson and one thing 766 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 3: that seems to be a parent. You're getting guys that 767 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 3: understand coaching, understand this NFL, but more importantly the teaching 768 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 3: aspect of it, and teaching means retention of talent. That 769 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 3: means that you get an era of Titans players that 770 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 3: understand that this building moves and walk. One way you 771 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 3: said earlier week, everything you said has been collaborative. How 772 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 3: important was that for them to have those traits because stability, 773 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 3: understanding and just truthful. This from coaches the into our 774 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 3: building where if you walk in and this guy got cut, 775 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 3: almost everybody know why he got cut. And it seems 776 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 3: like those are the guys that you are choosing to 777 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 3: bring into Nashville right now that I think the players 778 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 3: will appreciate that. How important was that in this service. 779 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, as a former player, at the 780 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 2: end of the day, you just want the truth, whatever 781 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 2: that is, no matter how hard, no matter how difficult 782 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 2: that is. You want the truth. But then you also 783 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 2: want somebody that cares about you and that's going to 784 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 2: push you to be the best, right And so that's 785 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 2: what That's what coaching is, right, and that's what coaching is. 786 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 2: And you know, we had that on the previous staff. 787 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 2: You know, that's that's all truthfulness. We had that on 788 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 2: the previous staff. And so our players here have a 789 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 2: certain expectation of how to be coached, and so we 790 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 2: have to continue to do that and surround them with 791 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 2: people who cannot only teach the game, but people that 792 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 2: care about them, you know, the human and a person 793 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 2: that's gonna hold them accountable, you know. And and I 794 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,919 Speaker 2: think as we're building this staff, I think we're we're 795 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 2: doing that. This game has always been about getting the 796 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 2: best football coaches, getting the best football coaches a but 797 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,240 Speaker 2: then getting the ones that are gonna be able to 798 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 2: fit our culture but also fit the culture of the 799 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 2: coaching staff. Because we we're gonna build this in Unison, 800 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. We're gonna be in lockstep. 801 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 2: And my big thing is having having guys here that 802 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 2: are gonna be able to support Calli, you know, and 803 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 2: support him in a way that he needs to be supported. 804 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 2: You know. Again, as a first time head coach calling 805 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 2: the plays, it's gonna be a lot on his plate. 806 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 2: But being able to have you know, some veteran coaches 807 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 2: on his staff that he'll be able to, you know, 808 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 2: bounce ideas off of. But then also having some younger, 809 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 2: brighter minds, you know, guys that you know want to 810 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 2: try and you know, take some risk and seeing where 811 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 2: that fits. So it's gonna be it's gonna be a 812 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 2: good blend of that. 813 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 4: Ran. First of all, I was a youth car salesman 814 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 4: for fifteen years. 815 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 2: Figures. 816 00:38:53,000 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 4: See, That's why I put it out there. How much 817 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 4: of that though, I hear you speaking about your childhood 818 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 4: and sticking and moving as a military personnel's child and 819 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,439 Speaker 4: just all of it. How much did that help in 820 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 4: hitting the ground running with Brian Callahan hitting it off 821 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 4: so early in that process of hiring him and knowing 822 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 4: you had to hit the accelerator pedal to get the 823 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:21,800 Speaker 4: staff to get. 824 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 2: It when you're you know, eight nine years old, however 825 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 2: old you are in like fourth grade, Like I went 826 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 2: to three different elementary schools in fourth grade, you know, 827 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 2: And it wasn't because I was a bad kid or 828 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 2: anything like that. It was just, you know, you start 829 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,919 Speaker 2: school in one place and then we got to move. 830 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,280 Speaker 2: But you move to that city. Your house isn't ready, 831 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 2: so you're here in temporary housing and you start school 832 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 2: in that area. Okay, your house is ready now, and 833 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 2: then now you got to move to another area. You 834 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 2: don't know to stop take it all in. You just 835 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,399 Speaker 2: you are where your feet are, and so you're at 836 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 2: this school, you're building relationships, and then now you're snatched 837 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 2: out of this school and you put in this school 838 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 2: and now you to hit the ground running again. So 839 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 2: that's the only thing I know, trust and believe. When 840 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 2: I'm able to get a break, I'm going to take 841 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 2: a nice long break and turn my phone off and 842 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 2: disconnect from the world. But that time isn't right now, 843 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,240 Speaker 2: you know, And so you know, I'm gonna do everything 844 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 2: that we need to be done to make this right, 845 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 2: you know. And that's if that's over extended myself, then 846 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 2: whatever it is, because I promise you like like, we 847 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 2: want to get this right, you know what I mean. 848 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 2: And I know that we're not gonna make every decision 849 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 2: that appeases people. But trust me, every decision that we 850 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 2: make is you know, with this organization in mind, and 851 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 2: is what we think is the best. You know. Again, 852 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 2: this is player acquisition. It's always a gamble, you know, 853 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 2: if you will, whether it's free agency, whether it's draft, 854 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 2: you know, because it's so many different things that contribute 855 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 2: to a player being successful. You know. That's why football 856 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 2: is the ultimate team game. You can't win it by yourself. 857 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 2: It takes you, you and ten other people to be 858 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 2: on the same page, moving in the same direction to 859 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 2: make it happen. So every decision that we make is 860 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 2: you know, will be for the betterment of this football team, 861 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 2: this organization in this city. 862 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: So let me wrap up with this. The people that 863 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 1: work with you, even Brian Callahan who you had no 864 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: tie to before this process. Correct, Chad Brinker, who you 865 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: knew on the road but you had never worked together. 866 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 1: Anthony Robinson, who you did know well. People that you 867 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: came into the building here at Ascension same Thomas Sports 868 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: Park and didn't know a year ago, but you're now 869 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: tight with. You've been able to sort of create this 870 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: really comfortable work space where everybody's going to have to 871 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 1: work hard. I mean, the hours aren't going to change, 872 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: but you've got a plan and a bunch of people 873 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: that you really feel comfortable doing it with. 874 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,439 Speaker 2: I'm only me, I think you guys. We spent enough 875 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 2: time together that I am me, you know, and I'm 876 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 2: very comfortable in that space of being me. I don't 877 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 2: know how to be anybody else. But then I also 878 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 2: want to surround myself with like minded people. You know, 879 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,280 Speaker 2: we work too damn hard, and football in the business 880 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 2: of football is too damn hard as it is. So 881 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 2: I want people that are here. I want them to 882 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 2: enjoy being here. I want them when they pull up 883 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 2: here in the morning to look forward to coming in. 884 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,879 Speaker 2: I've been in places where I didn't enjoy always coming in. 885 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 2: You know where you got to give yourself a pep talk. 886 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,840 Speaker 2: You know, you got to put your game day music 887 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 2: on just to get up and go in the building. 888 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 2: And you know, again it goes back to living off 889 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 2: of experiences. You know. I feel like true leaders, true 890 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 2: leaders build off of the things that were taught to them, 891 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 2: but then they also fix the things that they didn't like, 892 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 2: you know, when they were being led. And so again, 893 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 2: I want this to be a place where everybody shows 894 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 2: up and everybody wants to come to work, because when 895 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 2: you have that, you're gonna get the best output in 896 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 2: their workflow. And again, we're going to take care of 897 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 2: our people. You know. I spoke to one of our 898 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,839 Speaker 2: scouts wives and she's like, hey, can you just get 899 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,840 Speaker 2: let us know ahead of time on the day offs 900 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 2: so we can plan for it. So I literally, as 901 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 2: we're putting these days together of when we're gonna have off, like, 902 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 2: I will call that scout in and say, hey, can 903 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 2: you please let your wife know I gave you these 904 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 2: days because this is what she asks for so she 905 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 2: can play on your trips and vacations and get these flights. 906 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 2: Because again, I've been in a place where you know, 907 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 2: one making a lot of money and you learn on 908 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,879 Speaker 2: Wednesday that you're off on Friday and Saturday, and I'm like, okay, 909 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 2: I'm not in position to pay eleven hundred bucks for 910 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 2: a flight. So guess what. Now I'm here, and now 911 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 2: you know that. So now if you need something while 912 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 2: you're on your boat, you know, then I got to 913 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 2: come in the office and get it done on my 914 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 2: day off. 915 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 1: But the reality of what you have helped to create 916 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: among now coaching and with the scouting and the different 917 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: Chad Brinker and Anthony Robinson is when you have that 918 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: sort of a spree to corps among everybody who's working, 919 00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: that facilitates collaboration. 920 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, and again, but it goes back to you 921 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 2: having the right people. And the one thing I could 922 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 2: say is, I mean it permeates throughout the entire building. 923 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 2: You know, it starts at the top with miss Amy 924 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,280 Speaker 2: and her approach, and then it spreads to the business side, 925 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 2: and then it just carries down to the first floor, 926 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So it's only right that 927 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 2: you know that it flows that way. And so again, 928 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 2: surrounding yourself with the right kind of people first and foremost, 929 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 2: but then people who are passionate about what we do 930 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 2: for a living, and then they're an extension of me, 931 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 2: you know, Chad and a Rob, they're an extension of me. 932 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,879 Speaker 2: They know me very well and they know what we're 933 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 2: trying to do. And so when I'm not around, I 934 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,919 Speaker 2: don't feel worried that things are going to stop. Brandon Bean, 935 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,879 Speaker 2: who is the GM of Buffalo, you know, who's become 936 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 2: a good friend of mine. I actually interviewed there for 937 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 2: assistant GM position, I think maybe two years ago, whatever 938 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 2: it was. The one thing he told me about the 939 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 2: assistant GM position, He's like, if I get hit by 940 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,840 Speaker 2: a bus, this shouldn't stop. You know. The how we 941 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 2: do things, the way we work, the flow of everything 942 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 2: shouldn't stop because our way is our way. And so 943 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 2: that always stood out to me. So if something happens 944 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 2: to me, nothing should stop, you know, nothing should stop. 945 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 2: Our work day should be the same, the flow should 946 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,800 Speaker 2: be the same, what we're doing should be the same. 947 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 2: And so and that'll be because of the me, A 948 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 2: Rob and Chad being on the same page. Good stuff. 949 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for taking time with us, and 950 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 1: congratulations and all the good things that have happened for 951 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,280 Speaker 1: you in the last year. And hopefully I will continue 952 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 1: to happen for you and everybody associated with the tape. 953 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 2: I'll just say we're working. 954 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 1: We're working for coach Dave McGinnis, for Red Brian, for 955 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 1: Ramone Foster and for executive vice president general Manager Ran Carthon. 956 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 1: I'm Mike Keith. Thank you for listening to the O 957 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 1: t P.