Speaker 1: I'm Honey Germy. My parents are Dominican. I was born
Speaker 1: and raised in New York City. I love sneakers and
Speaker 1: I'm a body positive advocate.
Speaker 2: I'm Carolina Bermudez Soy Nikara WinCE but I was born
Speaker 2: and raised in Ohio. I'm a wife, a mama, and
Speaker 2: a worker bee.
Speaker 1: This is life in Spanglish Buenos dias, Carolina.
Speaker 2: Well, baby, it's always a great day whenever I'm with you.
Speaker 2: So thank you, thank you for joining me today. By
Speaker 2: the way, I will say this, I got a listener DM,
Speaker 2: one of our listeners said that she totally appreciates what
Speaker 2: we're doing. I'm actually gonna look for the DM right
Speaker 2: now because I said to her, I was like, are
Speaker 2: you kidding me? Like you are the reason why we
Speaker 2: do this, Alejandra. She said that she just wanted to
Speaker 2: stop by to say how amazing the podcasts have been
Speaker 2: that she had finally had a chance to catch up.
Speaker 2: And that's like, honestly, your feedback, just your little comments
Speaker 2: here and there, when you guys hit that subscribe button,
Speaker 2: that is everything to us. Because seriously, we want to
Speaker 2: connect and we feel like we're doing that with you.
Speaker 3: So thank you.
Speaker 2: Thank you for taking the time, Alexandra to send some
Speaker 2: love our way. I wanted to tell you, honey. So
Speaker 2: that was like my my contribution for today.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to contribute a whole lot more than that, Carolina,
Speaker 1: but I'll take it out.
Speaker 3: Okay, what are we doing today, Karlena?
Speaker 1: I was dying to connect with you because we've touched
Speaker 1: on so many different topics in the past few years.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you what it is yet, but okay,
Speaker 1: and right. This man has been around for decades. When
Speaker 1: I was a young girl, he took the reggaeton industry
Speaker 1: by storm.
Speaker 3: He went away.
Speaker 1: We haven't seen him in a long time. I hear
Speaker 1: he's had some difficulties in life. But just like a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, he's back. I'm like, Wow, Dago,
Speaker 1: he's back. He's back with new music. He's back with
Speaker 1: a new video. And then as I'm looking through the comments,
Speaker 1: people are like, oh he looks horrible. Oh he looks
Speaker 1: so old. Oh look at the gray hair. He says.
Speaker 1: Sign on. I'm like, what am I reading right now?
Speaker 1: Do you guys not understand who this man is? And
Speaker 1: right away I was like agism, Oh, boy. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a form of discrimination against not just older people, but
Speaker 1: even young people are experiencing now. But it just put
Speaker 1: me in a weird space because I'm like, do you
Speaker 1: not understand who this man is? He is an icon,
Speaker 1: he is a legend, he is making a comeback. But
Speaker 1: I kept seeing people talking about his looks, talking about
Speaker 1: his age. Mind you, Carolina, the man's voice is impeccable,
Speaker 1: livery crazy, and people are focusing on gray hairs, Like
Speaker 1: what has this world really come to when it comes
Speaker 1: to people age and just you know, just putting our
Speaker 1: talents to the side and focusing on if you had
Speaker 1: a couple of birthdays.
Speaker 3: Oh, why do you have to drop that load right now?
Speaker 2: Because I'm telling you this is something that we absolutely
Speaker 2: need to discuss and something that you mentioned which I
Speaker 2: want to touch on quickly. This isn't agism just for
Speaker 2: older people too, which is so interesting because we're finding
Speaker 2: agism and things that are affecting younger people even on TikTok,
Speaker 2: social media influencers, people in our industry, in the radio
Speaker 2: industry and the television industry.
Speaker 3: So okay, let's chop it up. First of all, I
Speaker 3: would say about de he is what some people would say.
Speaker 3: And this is just my opinion.
Speaker 2: I would say he's reached like godfather status, right or
Speaker 2: the right like the reggaeton community. You gotta acknowledge and
Speaker 2: give the legends their flowers. And that's what this guy is, Okay, So.
Speaker 3: Let's just put that out there. That's how I feel
Speaker 3: about him.
Speaker 2: So you want to minimize this person who is trying
Speaker 2: to do first of all, what they love, what their
Speaker 2: passion about, what they were made to do, and you
Speaker 2: want to stop them from going after it because they're
Speaker 2: a little bit older now they got like you said,
Speaker 2: you know what.
Speaker 3: I mean, like, what what is going on here?
Speaker 1: Just because Raw is here, just because Benito is here,
Speaker 1: just because Maluma is here, that does not mean that
Speaker 1: e La Vayalde doesn't have room to exist too.
Speaker 2: Well, I agree with that, but you know what, here's
Speaker 2: the thing. It's interesting that this is happening to a man.
Speaker 2: We typically see this with women, especially in the artistic industries,
Speaker 2: you know, models, if you're in the modeling industry, which
Speaker 2: by the way, neither of us are. But I will
Speaker 2: tell you know, I know there are limits. Basically if
Speaker 2: you are twenty six, twenty eight, you can pretty much
Speaker 2: kiss your career goodbye.
Speaker 3: You know, I think, like previously, like that's what was thought.
Speaker 2: Now we're seeing you know, Elon Musk's mother, Oh a resurgence,
Speaker 2: it writes, and she, I believe, is in her seventies,
Speaker 2: which is just so crazy. And I applaud that, and
Speaker 2: I think that that's exactly what we should be doing.
Speaker 2: We should be allowing each other to have these different
Speaker 2: phases of our lives, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 2: there's a season for everything, there's a reason for everything.
Speaker 3: But this is infuriating to me.
Speaker 1: Age discrimination is real, Carolina. It's like we see it
Speaker 1: every day, don't know thea It's just it's a natural
Speaker 1: course of life. It's gonna happen. While I was so
Speaker 1: against it. I remember when it was a good fortune
Speaker 1: to live a long life. I suppose to now in
Speaker 1: some industries, Carlina, you know, I had someone come up
Speaker 1: to me that I work with and she was like,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm getting old and I feel like
Speaker 1: people are cracking jokes about me. I said, how old
Speaker 1: are you? She said, I turned thirty already.
Speaker 2: Okay, now this should not be. When I first started
Speaker 2: in radio, I was a baby. I think I was
Speaker 2: twenty five years old, right, Oh, yeah, because I'm turning
Speaker 2: forty five. I have always been so. Back when I
Speaker 2: started in radio, which was, you know, two thousand and three,
Speaker 2: I think was when I first started, I was told
Speaker 2: by someone in the industry, a fellow woman, that I
Speaker 2: should never tell anybody my age. And I said, why,
Speaker 2: because I truly believe like you do, honey, like every
Speaker 2: day is a blessing. Like what you should celebrate your birthdays,
Speaker 2: You should celebrate every day, right, that whole mentality. She
Speaker 2: said no, because as you get older, you want to
Speaker 2: remain that young, youthful voice, especially in top forty radio,
Speaker 2: which is where I worked, you know, with zero one
Speaker 2: hundred and why one hundred. And I said, but I
Speaker 2: mean people can like look it up. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: not a secret when I was born. And she said,
Speaker 2: I would just suggest to you that you don't give
Speaker 2: anybody your age. She's like, I'm I'm telling you it's
Speaker 2: gonna work out better for you in your future. And
Speaker 2: I do appreciate that she was actually trying to give
Speaker 2: me one small nugget of advice, because truly, no women
Speaker 2: looked out for me when I was coming up in
Speaker 2: this industry, like I really did.
Speaker 3: Not have a woman mentor.
Speaker 2: But I did the opposite, and I embraced my age
Speaker 2: and I told everybody from the time that I started,
Speaker 2: because I was just like, that's not me, that's not
Speaker 2: who I am.
Speaker 3: And then I stayed.
Speaker 1: Fighting your age at twenty five, like how crazy would
Speaker 1: that be?
Speaker 3: Right? And also like, what am I going to do?
Speaker 3: Tell people I'm eighteen nineteen, Like that's not even believable
Speaker 3: because I went to college, Like that's what I was saying.
Speaker 2: I was just like, I live my life in truth,
Speaker 2: or I try to. And I said, nah, that's not
Speaker 2: for me. I don't care, so what like then fine,
Speaker 2: if my time is up, then my time is going
Speaker 2: to be up. But at least I'm being honest and honey,
Speaker 2: when I tell you that, there are so many women
Speaker 2: who have reached out to me and they say, girl,
Speaker 2: like you are doing it, like you're so honest, you're
Speaker 2: forty five. I am forty five and a mother in
Speaker 2: this industry, I only want people to know the truth
Speaker 2: about me, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, no,
Speaker 2: I don't want to have to keep up with a lie.
Speaker 2: I'm bad at math, Okay.
Speaker 1: Like I would tell this person I was. But even
Speaker 1: even with Latina's, it's always been a thing this is
Speaker 1: with that, Like it's just always been like a secretive
Speaker 1: type of thing that people have been ashamed of. But
Speaker 1: now it's just taking a different turn, Carolina, maybe because
Speaker 1: it's on social media. Like I was reading an article
Speaker 1: Bbi Rexa she's talking about she was told that she's
Speaker 1: too old to be sexy. Meanwhile, she's what thirty years old?
Speaker 1: Thirty four years old? Okay, Like who dictates how old you?
Speaker 1: When do you stop being quote unquote sexy?
Speaker 3: Okay, First of all, have you seen Bbi rex lately?
Speaker 2: I know, oh it's twenty twenty three and we are
Speaker 2: not judging and their bodies and their faces, but girl,
Speaker 2: she looks freaking amazing.
Speaker 3: She's got that body, YadA YadA. I love it. She's
Speaker 3: owning it. And it's like, you're going to.
Speaker 2: Tell Bbi Rexa that, in my opinion, this is just
Speaker 2: the beginning of your prime. Right, you know you're thirty
Speaker 2: years old. You're going to tell her that she needs
Speaker 2: to stop and not be sexy. And you know what,
Speaker 2: the same thing this actually brings up. Another point is
Speaker 2: said to a lot of mothers, Oh, when you.
Speaker 3: Have a kid, you can't be putting. You can't be
Speaker 3: doing this, you can't be How do you know how
Speaker 3: I feel?
Speaker 2: If I want to be sexy on a Wednesday and
Speaker 2: feel that way about myself and put up some pictures.
Speaker 2: Now I don't because I'm too self conscious and I'm
Speaker 2: not there mentally. But if other mothers want to do that,
Speaker 2: that's on them. You know what I'm saying, Like, who
Speaker 2: is anybody else to tell us when we should stop
Speaker 2: being Anything?
Speaker 1: That I never understood is like, Okay, I had a kid,
Speaker 1: so now can no longer have sex appeal? I can
Speaker 1: no longer you know how you think I got that
Speaker 1: kid exactly being a little hot ass? But Nah, the
Speaker 1: thing with they all got me thinking, and I was like,
Speaker 1: it's crazy how some people want others to cease to
Speaker 1: exist if they don't have a certain age that they
Speaker 1: want them Like even in even in radio, I've I've
Speaker 1: heard younger people. You know, I've mentored a lot of
Speaker 1: younger people I've had about.
Speaker 2: You have You're an incredible mentor you really that I'm
Speaker 2: sorry I do.
Speaker 3: I have to give you credit.
Speaker 2: You spend so much time bringing people up, and I
Speaker 2: mean this sincerely. I have watched, Honey, I see you
Speaker 2: in the hallways. I see what you do with the
Speaker 2: people who come to the digital team, and that show
Speaker 2: potential and problem.
Speaker 1: I likes my kids like I love them. And I've
Speaker 1: had about thirty probably different interns that I've mentored, Toad
Speaker 1: worked with and Krolina. I've heard some of them say, oh, well,
Speaker 1: it's time for a newer generation, Like, oh, well, you know,
Speaker 1: enough is enough. You know certain people need to go home,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, absolutely not. You think somebody who's been
Speaker 1: working twenty years is just going to go home because
Speaker 1: a seventeen and an eighteen year old says they need
Speaker 1: to go home and die. No, absolutely no, And that's
Speaker 1: agism right there. Oh well, that's enough for them, go home.
Speaker 1: Let other people have a turn.
Speaker 2: Why Okay, wait, you know what, I want to dive
Speaker 2: into this a little bit more, and we're going to
Speaker 2: discuss the radio industry. But also I want to bring
Speaker 2: up a point that really applies to everybody, and we'll
Speaker 2: do it right after this. So, Honey, you need to
Speaker 2: tell me that some of these young tenders that are
Speaker 2: coming in fresh out of school are saying that the
Speaker 2: legends in radio need to wrap it up.
Speaker 1: Yes, I've heard it. I have probably like ten different
Speaker 1: people in my that I've seen come in as a
Speaker 1: young intern or young employee and look around the room
Speaker 1: and look around different radio stations and be like, this
Speaker 1: person needs to go. That person, we've had enough of them.
Speaker 1: This person overstated there welcome. Oh no, and we need
Speaker 1: a new XYZ. Their time is up. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: absolutely not. You think I'm gonna work this hard to
Speaker 1: then leave when an intern.
Speaker 2: Comes Well, no, wait, do you think let me ask
Speaker 2: you this. Do you think it's immaturity on their part
Speaker 2: or because I that might be it. Because I feel
Speaker 2: like there's two things happening here. Number one, I think
Speaker 2: that there is an inflated sense of ego. If you
Speaker 2: really think that you can sit in a chair or
Speaker 2: somebody Yeah, no, I know. And I'm not saying that
Speaker 2: to be you know, like not in a derogatory way
Speaker 2: or me.
Speaker 1: No, but I'm saying, if it took this person ten, fifteen,
Speaker 1: twenty years to get to this chair or this position
Speaker 1: or this title, what makes you think that you in
Speaker 1: your last semester of college can fill their shoes.
Speaker 3: Right, I think that that's so.
Speaker 2: I feel like there might be a little bit of
Speaker 2: you know, immaturity, inflated sense of ego, and perhaps maybe
Speaker 2: they don't have the scope or their view of the
Speaker 2: world like that's been established yet.
Speaker 3: Do you understand what I mean?
Speaker 2: Because it's like I'm a realist, Okay, I can tell
Speaker 2: you right now that there is no way that I
Speaker 2: would ever be able to sit in a chair where
Speaker 2: I am now when I was twenty five. Even so
Speaker 2: I think that that might have something to do with it. Now,
Speaker 2: I will say in our industry, radio has been kind
Speaker 2: to older men. Radio is not kind to older females.
Speaker 2: So the older females who have made it to this
Speaker 2: stage of their career where they're celebrating twenty thirty, I
Speaker 2: don't know many people who have been celebrating forty years
Speaker 2: in radio that are women. So I think that you know,
Speaker 2: you look in Boston, there was a guy who just
Speaker 2: retired in his seventies. You know, you can look anywhere
Speaker 2: across the country. He was at a top forty station
Speaker 2: in his seventies. Now, for those of you guys who
Speaker 2: don't know, let me give you a little back. You know,
Speaker 2: history here Top forty radio is typically you know, skewed
Speaker 2: to females eighteen to thirty four years old. So you
Speaker 2: need to tell me that a seventy year old man, okay,
Speaker 2: that had has been doing this for years and years
Speaker 2: and years, has the capability to stay in that chair,
Speaker 2: But you won't afford that to a woman.
Speaker 3: I think the times do need to change, okay, but I.
Speaker 2: Also think that we need to allow people to have
Speaker 2: the freedom and the ability to use their skills until
Speaker 2: they say their time is up.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Carolina. Nobody wanted Frank Sinatra to stop singing this.
Speaker 1: I feel like this man used his voice, which was
Speaker 1: his talent. It was you know, it was his looks
Speaker 1: at one point, but overall, Frank Sinatra's voice was what
Speaker 1: carried him through life. Like, who are we to say, oh,
Speaker 1: Frank Sinatra's fifty go home. We don't want to hear
Speaker 1: you anymore.
Speaker 2: Absolutely not, babe, babe, I'm gonna give you one more.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna go one further than you.
Speaker 3: Okay, blow my mind. Go ahead, Tony freaking Bennett, Oh
Speaker 3: my god, Tony Bennett.
Speaker 2: Okay, So now you want to talk about Frank Sinatra.
Speaker 2: Tony Bennett is ninety six years old and is creating
Speaker 2: art with Lady Gaga and Ed Sharon or did you
Speaker 2: oh know Ed Shearon? I'm not sure if Ed Sharon
Speaker 2: did something with him, who was it? I'm thinking Ed
Speaker 2: Sharon did something with Andrea Bachelli. Sorry my bad, but no,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean Tony Bennett is still creating with
Speaker 2: artists that are contemporary artists. And you mean to tell
Speaker 2: me somebody's gonna go to Tony Bennett and be like, hey, bro,
Speaker 2: time to wrap it. No, he's a legend. He's gonna
Speaker 2: do what he does.
Speaker 1: I love this. Let's talk Dolly Parton, Carolina.
Speaker 3: Oh no, you can't do this to me.
Speaker 2: No, honey, we can't talk about Dolly Parton because you
Speaker 2: don't know the love, the deep, deep love that I
Speaker 2: have in my soul for Dolly Parton. Then you guys
Speaker 2: have no idea how much I care about this woman.
Speaker 2: I feel like she's a national treasure. I want to
Speaker 2: bubble wrap her. I don't want anybody to even look
Speaker 2: at her the wrong way. No, my Dolly is a jem.
Speaker 2: But go ahead, honey, go ahead.
Speaker 1: You know I was reading I was reading up on
Speaker 1: agism in all different areas, and I stumble the current
Speaker 1: across this quote that Dolly Parton said. You know, she said,
Speaker 1: after you reach a certain age, they think you're over. Well,
Speaker 1: I will never be over. I will be making records
Speaker 1: if I have to sell them out of the trunk
Speaker 1: of my car. I've done that in the past, and
Speaker 1: I'll do it again. She's like, hell no, I'm seventy
Speaker 1: something years old, and I ain't gonna stop singing because
Speaker 1: you say so.
Speaker 2: I love that so much. And here's another thing. Look
Speaker 2: at Dolly. She is creating new music with her god
Speaker 2: daughter Miley Cyrus. She's creating new music with other country
Speaker 2: artists in Nashville. She is, and by the way, how
Speaker 2: do we not learn or I'm sorry, no, let me
Speaker 2: rephrase that. How do we learn if we don't learn
Speaker 2: from the legends?
Speaker 3: Right? You know? If you think about it.
Speaker 2: And we have a friend she's from Japan, and she said,
Speaker 2: she's like, we got it twisted.
Speaker 3: Here in Japan. Your elders live with you.
Speaker 2: Your elders not only are you taking care of them,
Speaker 2: but they're taking care of your kids. And you're all
Speaker 2: a part of this. And listen, it's not. I think
Speaker 2: culturally it's difficult for a lot of different people to
Speaker 2: have that happen in their home. And I know there's
Speaker 2: personalities and things like that. I get that, But what
Speaker 2: she was saying is who better to teach your children
Speaker 2: your parents? And I said her, I was like, you
Speaker 2: know what, You're absolutely right, and I get the village.
Speaker 2: It takes a village and everything. But what she was
Speaker 2: saying is there are life lessons that my parents lived
Speaker 2: through that I can't tell my kids. But you know what,
Speaker 2: just being around them will give them the exposure that
Speaker 2: they need in order to make them good people, in
Speaker 2: order to keep them learning. And it also keeps the
Speaker 2: elders young by being around the younger people, do you
Speaker 2: see what I mean? So, by Dolly and by Tony
Speaker 2: Bennett creating and collaborating with these new artists, it isn't
Speaker 2: about them trying to stay relevant either. It keeps them young,
Speaker 2: It gives them the fulfillment that they need.
Speaker 1: The problem is a lot of younger people they don't
Speaker 1: believe in ogs. You know how we got our ogs
Speaker 1: and we respect them. And you're like, I kissed the ring.
Speaker 1: I'll never speak ill about this person and this person right,
Speaker 1: your trailblazer open up the doors that wouldn't be here
Speaker 1: without them. I feel like as generations come up, that's disappearing.
Speaker 1: I have people Carolina that I would never in my
Speaker 1: life speak ill of, distrispect because of who they are
Speaker 1: and what they created. And there are trail blazers in
Speaker 1: the area that I existed now when I can only
Speaker 1: exist there because of them. But in an area in
Speaker 1: an era of well, I'm popping because as a TikTok,
Speaker 1: nobody did not inform me. It's disappearing. And you know what,
Speaker 1: we got to force it on them. You better respect
Speaker 1: who came before you.
Speaker 3: Well two things about that.
Speaker 2: Do you remember when we had International Women's Day and
Speaker 2: I was sitting on a panel with Daniel Manero, Maria Maliedo,
Speaker 2: Crystal Roasace, and Angie Martinez. The first thing I believe
Speaker 2: that I said was I always always admired Angie. I
Speaker 2: never met her before. You know, I never really knew
Speaker 2: her before she came over to work with us at iHeart,
Speaker 2: But when I tell you it, I'm humble enough to
Speaker 2: always give her her flowers because if it weren't for
Speaker 2: an Angie Martinez in afternoon Drive. Previously at Hot ninety
Speaker 2: seven I used to listen to her and study her
Speaker 2: because I wanted to do this.
Speaker 3: I wanted to be great, I wanted to be successful,
Speaker 3: and I looked at her as the model.
Speaker 2: You know what it is now people have too much
Speaker 2: ego and they're like, nah, she ain't popping, she ain't this,
Speaker 2: she ain't.
Speaker 3: That, And it's like no, no, no, no, no, sorry, sweeties,
Speaker 3: you better take that.
Speaker 2: Gave two seats because you don't know what she went
Speaker 2: through to get to the point where she is today.
Speaker 2: You know the ageism thing to me and I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I'm so fired up and I can't believe like that
Speaker 2: you didn't tell me that we were going to do
Speaker 2: this because I love this, this whole thing. It is
Speaker 2: so important to me, especially as a Latina. And you
Speaker 2: know what, we're going to get into this part because
Speaker 2: I want to tell you about a situation that recently
Speaker 2: just happened, and we'll do that right after this break. So, honey,
Speaker 2: we were talking about how this actually affects, you know,
Speaker 2: not only women, I mean women as a whole and
Speaker 2: are just entirely we face agism in our careers. You know,
Speaker 2: in relationships, you know, there's a lot of people who
Speaker 2: get divorced and trade out a wife for a younger one,
Speaker 2: you know, a tighter one, a different model. But what
Speaker 2: I will say is, as latinas in this industry, I'm
Speaker 2: very taken aback by some of the responses that I
Speaker 2: have heard. Now, I recently got to sit down with
Speaker 2: Jennifer Lopez, not once, but twice.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: She had that new movie coming out called The Mother.
Speaker 2: It's out you guys can see it now. And I
Speaker 2: had the opportunity to sit down with Jennifer and interview
Speaker 2: her for two different outlets.
Speaker 3: And when I.
Speaker 2: Tell you, the level of respect that I have for
Speaker 2: this woman is off the charts, immeasurable. And it's not
Speaker 2: because I'm a super fan or I'm fan girling. It
Speaker 2: is because of the obstacles that this woman has had
Speaker 2: to overcome in order to get to where she is
Speaker 2: and stay there. Okay, when I posted something about her,
Speaker 2: you know, people are like, oh, she's she's looking like
Speaker 2: she's getting up there, Jaylo.
Speaker 3: Yes, people need to stop.
Speaker 2: Yes, And when I tell you, I am so offended
Speaker 2: by that because, first of all, she takes impeccable care
Speaker 2: of her.
Speaker 3: She's The way that she takes care of herself is
Speaker 3: just remarkable. But also it's just like, she's fifty plus. Now,
Speaker 3: are you freaking kidding me? If you if you look
Speaker 3: at the women in this country at fifty plus, like
Speaker 3: you you need to tell me if you do.
Speaker 1: Like the women in this country at thirty something.
Speaker 3: But right, right, And that's but also it's infuriating to
Speaker 3: me because it's like, also, why are we comparing anyone?
Speaker 3: Let her be, let her create, let her.
Speaker 2: Continue to bust down those doors for the rest of us.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: She's fifty three and a couple of weeks ago, the
Speaker 1: Megala went down and I saw a video of her.
Speaker 1: You know those videos where people spin or whatever, like
Speaker 1: E News loves to do that. Oh yes, yeah they do, Yeah, okay, video.
Speaker 1: There's no photoshop, there's no filtering, there's no editing. She
Speaker 1: was divined, her skin, her smile, Like, why would you
Speaker 1: want j Loo to go anywhere when at fifty three
Speaker 1: she is in the prime of her career. Carolina. She
Speaker 1: when I went to Super Bowl before the pandemic, I
Speaker 1: saw this woman perform. Wow, I was blown away. She
Speaker 1: not going nowhere. I want her to be just like
Speaker 1: Dolly part in a seventy one still kicking doors down.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And that's the thing.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: The other thing that was infuriating to me when I
Speaker 2: was looking at the comments. People don't know that her
Speaker 2: production company actually was the company that went to Netflix.
Speaker 2: Netflix partnered with her production companies. So not only is
Speaker 2: she starring in not only is she pushing her own
Speaker 2: boundaries and getting into a different kind of role, a
Speaker 2: different kind of character that she has ever done.
Speaker 3: Before, but Homie is producing this on the back end. Okay,
Speaker 3: Like That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And it's just like, are we seriously going to sit
Speaker 2: here and minimize people for following their dreams and continuing
Speaker 2: to be passionate about things. So now, because she's fifty
Speaker 2: three and she's made millions of dollars, she's just supposed
Speaker 2: to go to her estate and just be sipping on
Speaker 2: champagne with Ben.
Speaker 3: She can't continue to create.
Speaker 1: Look at ninety one years old, hell.
Speaker 2: Still working on sitcoms. But you know what, though, I
Speaker 2: have to do. I have to say that's Soka. I'm
Speaker 2: telling you right now, we do not stop. I think
Speaker 2: there's something in our blood we go for it and
Speaker 2: we continue to go for it now.
Speaker 3: Switching gears because I do.
Speaker 2: And I'm sorry, I know I went off because like,
Speaker 2: do not touch Jennifer Lopez.
Speaker 1: First of all, the fact that you were just talking
Speaker 1: about I was sitting across from table, that alone deserves
Speaker 1: a damn episode in its entire time.
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, I'll tell you after we get off
Speaker 2: of this episode, I'll tell you everything. And I just like,
Speaker 2: I soaked up every ounce of energy. She was so kind,
Speaker 2: like give me a jujus. I'm like, I'm like, so, babe,
Speaker 2: how can we partner up with this production company?
Speaker 3: Why don't you get my why don't you give me
Speaker 3: my talk show?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Like, but I do want to switch gears here and
Speaker 2: talk about something that is very personal to me, and
Speaker 2: I think that it could be very helpful to people
Speaker 2: who may feel like they are burnt out or they're drained,
Speaker 2: or like maybe people think that like your time is up,
Speaker 2: that you need to move on. No, no, no, whatever. You know,
Speaker 2: my father is eighty years old this year.
Speaker 3: Eighty honey. He's gonna be happy, my papa, and he
Speaker 3: still works.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think I've told you guys, he's tried to
Speaker 2: retire three times.
Speaker 3: He drove my mother crazy.
Speaker 2: My mom was like, moiema, you know, like she just
Speaker 2: he is a worker.
Speaker 3: Bee.
Speaker 2: We have been talking about my father and the amount
Speaker 2: of work that he puts in and the reason why
Speaker 2: he does it.
Speaker 3: And he says, guys, it keeps me sharp.
Speaker 2: And the research is there, The science is there people
Speaker 2: who stop working and don't continue something. You know, your brain,
Speaker 2: it's a muscle. You got to exercise it. And by
Speaker 2: the way, I'm not a doctor. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's a muscle. Can somebody verify that?
Speaker 3: Pa it is okay. But what I'm saying is.
Speaker 2: You know, having this conversation with my father because here
Speaker 2: as a family, we're concerned for him. We want him
Speaker 2: to slow down, and he's like, I'm not slowing down.
Speaker 2: When I slowed down, that's it. I gotta keep moving.
Speaker 2: My brain still works, I'm still aware. I'm cognizant. I'm
Speaker 2: physically healthy.
Speaker 3: He really is.
Speaker 2: I mean, I hope that I got my dad's jeans
Speaker 2: because he.
Speaker 1: Is like, on it, right, I would to get five.
Speaker 1: Don you got your dad's jeans. I would to get five.
Speaker 1: That's so whoever want to see Carolina disappear. She got
Speaker 1: another forty years left.
Speaker 3: I don't know what that's right, baby, and they're gonna
Speaker 3: have to wheel me out. But but you know what.
Speaker 2: Then I started talking to him and I said, Daddy,
Speaker 2: you know what, you're so right, you know? And he
Speaker 2: said he told me. He said, eh, then okay. You know,
Speaker 2: he's like, you've got to keep training your brain. Do things,
Speaker 2: challenge yourself. Don't be afraid to like take chances. You know,
Speaker 2: he's like, every day, you know what, be athletic. Do
Speaker 2: something athletic. And then we started discussing you know, obviously
Speaker 2: we know like Suitku, crossword puzzles, you know, things like that.
Speaker 2: You go to the New York Times. You can get
Speaker 2: those for free, by the way, But he said, you know,
Speaker 2: we were talking about it because I have a ping
Speaker 2: pong table at my house. And he's like, do you
Speaker 2: know research says that if you do you play table tennis,
Speaker 2: it's fast, you keep up your hand eye coordination. It
Speaker 2: works a part of your brain. I think he said,
Speaker 2: like the Sarahbellum or something. He said, it works a
Speaker 2: part of your brain. You got to keep working your
Speaker 2: brain out because that is what is going to keep
Speaker 2: you young. That is what is going to motivate you
Speaker 2: to keep on going. He's like, you want to be around,
Speaker 2: and he's like, I want to be around as long
Speaker 2: as you know, God lets me be.
Speaker 3: But that's where I feel like, it's like that puts
Speaker 3: things in perspective for me.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, here's an eighty year old
Speaker 2: man where most people talking about agism. Oh, he's an
Speaker 2: old doctor. He has old methods, he has this. My
Speaker 2: dad is doing telehealth, which when he first started out
Speaker 2: in medicine that didn't even exist.
Speaker 3: He is seeing.
Speaker 2: Patients still one on one. I mean he is doing
Speaker 2: the thing, honey. And that's what I'm saying. It's like
Speaker 2: we cannot discard people just because they're not within that
Speaker 2: sweet spot of an age range.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm talking entirely too much.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, you're good. It's crazy because when it comes
Speaker 1: to picking doctors, maybe I am being ages. I prefer
Speaker 1: an older doctor. I don't want a young doctor. I
Speaker 1: need for him to be knowledgeable a season. I would
Speaker 1: love your dad to be my doctor because I'm like,
Speaker 1: you don't see some things. Meanwhile, a thirty year old doctor,
Speaker 1: but like you know, what you're looking at right now.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, no, you know what, that's like the
Speaker 2: whole reason why we're talking about.
Speaker 1: It exactly right.
Speaker 3: But you know what, maybe it's something for us to
Speaker 3: be aware of.
Speaker 2: Maybe you were never aware of that before, and like
Speaker 2: you just had this you know, light bulb moment and.
Speaker 1: Now, and it happens to young people. Look at me,
Speaker 1: I say, I prefer an older doctor. I was reading
Speaker 1: an article and it was like a twenty two year
Speaker 1: old pilot and she says she experiences you know, agism
Speaker 1: all day long because people are like, oh, you're twenty
Speaker 1: two and you're a pilot. They question her, they question
Speaker 1: her abilities. They're not even looking at like, wow, you're
Speaker 1: a pilot at twenty two. People are just doubtful about
Speaker 1: her her abilities and whether or not she can even
Speaker 1: fly a plane. Agism just aimed at a different age bracket.
Speaker 2: Right, And you know, earlier in the show, I told
Speaker 2: you how this is even affecting people who are like, well,
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, we've got to all embrace this. Social
Speaker 2: influencer is considered a career like this is where were
Speaker 2: her in life?
Speaker 3: Like this is true?
Speaker 2: You know, and I was seeing things on about these
Speaker 2: TikTok creators and how when and almost like modeling, honey,
Speaker 2: that when they reach a certain age, you know, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty eight. I think it was like between twenty six
Speaker 2: and twenty eight. That's why that number is sticking out
Speaker 2: to me that now they're like, oh, I've aged out.
Speaker 2: I can't be doing this anymore. So now they have
Speaker 2: to come up with something else, And how sol.
Speaker 1: Might I know, I swear to that is insane. Wasn't
Speaker 1: this for the younger j Okay? So you gotta be young,
Speaker 1: but you can't be getting towards the thirties. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm just so confused right now, because I still thought
Speaker 1: twenty five was young. But like I said, this person
Speaker 1: that we work with told me they were feeling old
Speaker 1: because they were going to turn thirty and people are
Speaker 1: starting to make jokes about them being old, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: thirties old.
Speaker 3: Now, Oh I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I don't believe in that at all.
Speaker 2: You can be fifty years old and be young. You
Speaker 2: can be you know what I mean. You can be
Speaker 2: twenty years old and be young, but you could also
Speaker 2: be sixty and have a young youthful outlook on life.
Speaker 3: That to me is just so ridiculous.
Speaker 2: But you know, the TikTok thing, what I was what
Speaker 2: I thought was interesting is like now some of these
Speaker 2: influencers who people have been following, now they're trying to
Speaker 2: reinvent themselves in ways so that they can continue on
Speaker 2: the platform and to continue to be social media creators
Speaker 2: that they're like, now I'm going to be Now I'm
Speaker 2: going to be a mo influencer. And so they're having
Speaker 2: babies and then it's like, now I'm gonna have another baby,
Speaker 2: so now I have more content.
Speaker 3: To post and more things post.
Speaker 1: And it's just like they got a movement to different
Speaker 1: areas of life. I get, I guess new achievements and like,
Speaker 1: now you mentioned TikTok, and I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people that are like, I'm too old for TikTok. I
Speaker 1: don't go on TikTok. I don't use TikTok. It's for
Speaker 1: the kids.
Speaker 3: It's me, Hi, it's the problem, it's me.
Speaker 1: It's just becomes so prevalent, like everybody's so hyper aware
Speaker 1: now of age and what you can do at what age.
Speaker 1: Let's just live, folks, because be that I'm gonna TikTok.
Speaker 1: I don't know who they care.
Speaker 3: No, you're right, You're right.
Speaker 2: I think for me, it's hard for me to wrap
Speaker 2: my brain around it just because like I have so
Speaker 2: many other things going on. Oh well, I can't even
Speaker 2: I don't even have Instagram figured out, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: So for me, it's like to add something else.
Speaker 1: It's a whole job make It can take hours. Oh
Speaker 1: for sure, for sure you have that you don't have
Speaker 1: the bandwidth to add TikTok influencer onto your daily activity.
Speaker 2: I truly don't unless I have an assistant or something,
Speaker 2: which that doesn't.
Speaker 1: Happen unless you give up the kids, right.
Speaker 3: And that is not happening, not my babies.
Speaker 2: But I feel like we can definitely wrap this up
Speaker 2: by saying, there are so many things that we discuss openly. Racism, sexism,
Speaker 2: Agism is something.
Speaker 3: That people are afraid to talk about.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: But if you look at big corporations, if you look
Speaker 2: at the CEOs and the CFOs of these corporations, they
Speaker 2: have the ability to get into their seventies and their eighties,
Speaker 2: and they have the ability to run these multi billion
Speaker 2: dollar industries until they're ready to give it up. So
Speaker 2: don't ever think that you have to give up something
Speaker 2: because somebody says you're past your prime.
Speaker 3: Boom, I said it.
Speaker 1: Look at your president Biden. Yeah, here like eighty seven
Speaker 1: years old, talk about he's gonna run again.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, we don't talk about politics on this show,
Speaker 2: but yeah, you know, I'm.
Speaker 1: Living his best life being a president in his eighties.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but people, I mean, that's that's actually part of
Speaker 2: the discussion, you know. I mean where they've been talking
Speaker 2: about it in politics, you know about should we have
Speaker 2: like age limits.
Speaker 3: Should we have I mean, there we go. It's a
Speaker 3: part of the discussion.
Speaker 2: So you know what if there if there's ever anything
Speaker 2: that I feel like we do here, it's that we
Speaker 2: have the freedom to just speak to each other about
Speaker 2: these I am so grateful that you brought this to
Speaker 2: the podcast today.
Speaker 1: For real, I just want people to be a little
Speaker 1: bit more aware of this because I feel like it's
Speaker 1: so ingrained in a culture that we don't even notice
Speaker 1: we're doing it. But if you hear this conversation when
Speaker 1: you're gonna do it, you might be more aware and
Speaker 1: backpedal a little.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, Well, and you know what. Tell us your
Speaker 2: thoughts on this. Have you ever faced this type of discrimination, like,
Speaker 2: have you encountered this at your workplace? Because I'm positive
Speaker 2: it can't just be in one industry, you know, I
Speaker 2: feel like it's everywhere. So we would love to continue
Speaker 2: the discussion. Make sure you join me. Actually, you can
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