WEBVTT - Ageism Ain't Right 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:07.400 I'm Honey Germy. My parents are Dominican. I was born 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:09.800 and raised in New York City. I love sneakers and 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:11.320 I'm a body positive advocate. 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:15.240 I'm Carolina Bermudez Soy Nikara WinCE but I was born 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:18.800 and raised in Ohio. I'm a wife, a mama, and 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:19.919 a worker bee. 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:25.360 This is life in Spanglish Buenos dias, Carolina. 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:27.600 Well, baby, it's always a great day whenever I'm with you. 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:30.040 So thank you, thank you for joining me today. By 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:34.440 the way, I will say this, I got a listener DM, 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:38.919 one of our listeners said that she totally appreciates what 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:41.320 we're doing. I'm actually gonna look for the DM right 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:42.599 now because I said to her, I was like, are 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:44.599 you kidding me? Like you are the reason why we 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:49.000 do this, Alejandra. She said that she just wanted to 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:52.360 stop by to say how amazing the podcasts have been 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:54.920 that she had finally had a chance to catch up. 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:58.520 And that's like, honestly, your feedback, just your little comments 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:01.440 here and there, when you guys hit that subscribe button, 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:05.360 that is everything to us. Because seriously, we want to 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:07.720 connect and we feel like we're doing that with you. 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:08.399 So thank you. 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:10.679 Thank you for taking the time, Alexandra to send some 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:12.640 love our way. I wanted to tell you, honey. So 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:14.959 that was like my my contribution for today. 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:18.000 You're gonna have to contribute a whole lot more than that, Carolina, 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:19.960 but I'll take it out. 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:23.039 Okay, what are we doing today, Karlena? 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:26.080 I was dying to connect with you because we've touched 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:28.640 on so many different topics in the past few years. 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:31.640 I'm not gonna tell you what it is yet, but okay, 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:35.280 and right. This man has been around for decades. When 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:38.440 I was a young girl, he took the reggaeton industry 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:39.240 by storm. 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:39.960 He went away. 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:43.040 We haven't seen him in a long time. I hear 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:45.840 he's had some difficulties in life. But just like a 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:49.640 couple of weeks ago, he's back. I'm like, Wow, Dago, 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:52.120 he's back. He's back with new music. He's back with 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:55.400 a new video. And then as I'm looking through the comments, 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:58.360 people are like, oh he looks horrible. Oh he looks 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:01.320 so old. Oh look at the gray hair. He says. 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:04.760 Sign on. I'm like, what am I reading right now? 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:09.519 Do you guys not understand who this man is? And 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:13.560 right away I was like agism, Oh, boy. Yeah, it's 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:17.200 a form of discrimination against not just older people, but 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:20.399 even young people are experiencing now. But it just put 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:23.280 me in a weird space because I'm like, do you 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:26.280 not understand who this man is? He is an icon, 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:30.080 he is a legend, he is making a comeback. But 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:34.240 I kept seeing people talking about his looks, talking about 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:38.799 his age. Mind you, Carolina, the man's voice is impeccable, 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:44.880 livery crazy, and people are focusing on gray hairs, Like 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:47.560 what has this world really come to when it comes 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:52.040 to people age and just you know, just putting our 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:55.160 talents to the side and focusing on if you had 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:56.320 a couple of birthdays. 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:59.799 Oh, why do you have to drop that load right now? 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:03.600 Because I'm telling you this is something that we absolutely 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:07.239 need to discuss and something that you mentioned which I 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:11.320 want to touch on quickly. This isn't agism just for 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:14.919 older people too, which is so interesting because we're finding 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:20.080 agism and things that are affecting younger people even on TikTok, 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:25.240 social media influencers, people in our industry, in the radio 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:26.720 industry and the television industry. 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:28.400 So okay, let's chop it up. First of all, I 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:32.679 would say about de he is what some people would say. 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:34.040 And this is just my opinion. 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:38.800 I would say he's reached like godfather status, right or 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:44.320 the right like the reggaeton community. You gotta acknowledge and 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:48.720 give the legends their flowers. And that's what this guy is, Okay, So. 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:50.720 Let's just put that out there. That's how I feel 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:51.280 about him. 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:57.080 So you want to minimize this person who is trying 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.560 to do first of all, what they love, what their 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:03.320 passion about, what they were made to do, and you 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:07.320 want to stop them from going after it because they're 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:09.800 a little bit older now they got like you said, 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:11.440 you know what. 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:14.560 I mean, like, what what is going on here? 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:18.200 Just because Raw is here, just because Benito is here, 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:21.640 just because Maluma is here, that does not mean that 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:24.680 e La Vayalde doesn't have room to exist too. 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:26.920 Well, I agree with that, but you know what, here's 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:29.719 the thing. It's interesting that this is happening to a man. 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:36.159 We typically see this with women, especially in the artistic industries, 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:39.279 you know, models, if you're in the modeling industry, which 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:41.240 by the way, neither of us are. But I will 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:46.000 tell you know, I know there are limits. Basically if 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:50.080 you are twenty six, twenty eight, you can pretty much 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:52.040 kiss your career goodbye. 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:54.960 You know, I think, like previously, like that's what was thought. 0:04:55.080 --> 0:05:00.920 Now we're seeing you know, Elon Musk's mother, Oh a resurgence, 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:04.160 it writes, and she, I believe, is in her seventies, 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:06.960 which is just so crazy. And I applaud that, and 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:09.640 I think that that's exactly what we should be doing. 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:12.880 We should be allowing each other to have these different 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.040 phases of our lives, you know what I mean, Like 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:19.279 there's a season for everything, there's a reason for everything. 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.320 But this is infuriating to me. 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:26.600 Age discrimination is real, Carolina. It's like we see it 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:33.560 every day, don't know thea It's just it's a natural 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:36.480 course of life. It's gonna happen. While I was so 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:38.880 against it. I remember when it was a good fortune 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:43.600 to live a long life. I suppose to now in 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:47.280 some industries, Carlina, you know, I had someone come up 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.080 to me that I work with and she was like, 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.080 I feel like I'm getting old and I feel like 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:54.440 people are cracking jokes about me. I said, how old 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:56.680 are you? She said, I turned thirty already. 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:02.000 Okay, now this should not be. When I first started 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.240 in radio, I was a baby. I think I was 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:07.119 twenty five years old, right, Oh, yeah, because I'm turning 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:10.719 forty five. I have always been so. Back when I 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:13.720 started in radio, which was, you know, two thousand and three, 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:18.000 I think was when I first started, I was told 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:21.800 by someone in the industry, a fellow woman, that I 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:25.400 should never tell anybody my age. And I said, why, 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:28.600 because I truly believe like you do, honey, like every 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:32.120 day is a blessing. Like what you should celebrate your birthdays, 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:35.200 You should celebrate every day, right, that whole mentality. She 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:39.200 said no, because as you get older, you want to 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:44.600 remain that young, youthful voice, especially in top forty radio, 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.440 which is where I worked, you know, with zero one 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:50.680 hundred and why one hundred. And I said, but I 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:52.960 mean people can like look it up. I mean, it's 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:55.800 not a secret when I was born. And she said, 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:58.680 I would just suggest to you that you don't give 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:00.720 anybody your age. She's like, I'm I'm telling you it's 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:02.960 gonna work out better for you in your future. And 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.720 I do appreciate that she was actually trying to give 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:09.440 me one small nugget of advice, because truly, no women 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:11.080 looked out for me when I was coming up in 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:13.080 this industry, like I really did. 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:14.320 Not have a woman mentor. 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:18.200 But I did the opposite, and I embraced my age 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:21.679 and I told everybody from the time that I started, 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:24.000 because I was just like, that's not me, that's not 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:24.600 who I am. 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:25.880 And then I stayed. 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:29.400 Fighting your age at twenty five, like how crazy would 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:29.760 that be? 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:32.120 Right? And also like, what am I going to do? 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:35.160 Tell people I'm eighteen nineteen, Like that's not even believable 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:37.520 because I went to college, Like that's what I was saying. 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:39.320 I was just like, I live my life in truth, 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:42.800 or I try to. And I said, nah, that's not 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:45.440 for me. I don't care, so what like then fine, 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:47.080 if my time is up, then my time is going 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.880 to be up. But at least I'm being honest and honey, 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.160 when I tell you that, there are so many women 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:55.480 who have reached out to me and they say, girl, 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:58.360 like you are doing it, like you're so honest, you're 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:01.600 forty five. I am forty five and a mother in 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:06.520 this industry, I only want people to know the truth 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:09.920 about me, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, no, 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:11.680 I don't want to have to keep up with a lie. 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:13.560 I'm bad at math, Okay. 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:16.560 Like I would tell this person I was. But even 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:20.040 even with Latina's, it's always been a thing this is 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:25.680 with that, Like it's just always been like a secretive 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:28.720 type of thing that people have been ashamed of. But 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:33.280 now it's just taking a different turn, Carolina, maybe because 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:36.920 it's on social media. Like I was reading an article 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:41.840 Bbi Rexa she's talking about she was told that she's 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:45.360 too old to be sexy. Meanwhile, she's what thirty years old? 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:49.800 Thirty four years old? Okay, Like who dictates how old you? 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:52.280 When do you stop being quote unquote sexy? 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:56.360 Okay, First of all, have you seen Bbi rex lately? 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.280 I know, oh it's twenty twenty three and we are 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:03.559 not judging and their bodies and their faces, but girl, 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:07.800 she looks freaking amazing. 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:11.839 She's got that body, YadA YadA. I love it. She's 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:15.760 owning it. And it's like, you're going to. 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:19.280 Tell Bbi Rexa that, in my opinion, this is just 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:21.440 the beginning of your prime. Right, you know you're thirty 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:23.560 years old. You're going to tell her that she needs 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:25.560 to stop and not be sexy. And you know what, 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:29.120 the same thing this actually brings up. Another point is 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:31.000 said to a lot of mothers, Oh, when you. 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:32.880 Have a kid, you can't be putting. You can't be 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.920 doing this, you can't be How do you know how 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:36.560 I feel? 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:39.920 If I want to be sexy on a Wednesday and 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:43.040 feel that way about myself and put up some pictures. 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.240 Now I don't because I'm too self conscious and I'm 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:50.000 not there mentally. But if other mothers want to do that, 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:53.000 that's on them. You know what I'm saying, Like, who 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.760 is anybody else to tell us when we should stop 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:56.800 being Anything? 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:59.480 That I never understood is like, Okay, I had a kid, 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.040 so now can no longer have sex appeal? I can 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:07.040 no longer you know how you think I got that 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:13.000 kid exactly being a little hot ass? But Nah, the 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:15.160 thing with they all got me thinking, and I was like, 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:19.880 it's crazy how some people want others to cease to 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:24.000 exist if they don't have a certain age that they 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:27.959 want them Like even in even in radio, I've I've 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:30.760 heard younger people. You know, I've mentored a lot of 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:32.400 younger people I've had about. 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:35.640 You have You're an incredible mentor you really that I'm 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:36.240 sorry I do. 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:37.480 I have to give you credit. 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:41.960 You spend so much time bringing people up, and I 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:45.120 mean this sincerely. I have watched, Honey, I see you 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:47.560 in the hallways. I see what you do with the 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:49.720 people who come to the digital team, and that show 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:50.800 potential and problem. 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:52.880 I likes my kids like I love them. And I've 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:57.800 had about thirty probably different interns that I've mentored, Toad 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:02.640 worked with and Krolina. I've heard some of them say, oh, well, 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:06.240 it's time for a newer generation, Like, oh, well, you know, 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:08.760 enough is enough. You know certain people need to go home, 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:12.720 And I'm like, absolutely not. You think somebody who's been 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:15.240 working twenty years is just going to go home because 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.880 a seventeen and an eighteen year old says they need 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:21.400 to go home and die. No, absolutely no, And that's 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:25.480 agism right there. Oh well, that's enough for them, go home. 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:27.160 Let other people have a turn. 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:29.959 Why Okay, wait, you know what, I want to dive 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:33.120 into this a little bit more, and we're going to 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:36.840 discuss the radio industry. But also I want to bring 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.360 up a point that really applies to everybody, and we'll 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:45.120 do it right after this. So, Honey, you need to 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:47.640 tell me that some of these young tenders that are 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:51.880 coming in fresh out of school are saying that the 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.920 legends in radio need to wrap it up. 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:59.280 Yes, I've heard it. I have probably like ten different 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:02.400 people in my that I've seen come in as a 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:06.720 young intern or young employee and look around the room 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:08.960 and look around different radio stations and be like, this 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:12.040 person needs to go. That person, we've had enough of them. 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:15.600 This person overstated there welcome. Oh no, and we need 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:19.200 a new XYZ. Their time is up. And I'm like, 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:22.680 absolutely not. You think I'm gonna work this hard to 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:24.680 then leave when an intern. 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:28.240 Comes Well, no, wait, do you think let me ask 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:30.800 you this. Do you think it's immaturity on their part 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:34.840 or because I that might be it. Because I feel 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:38.000 like there's two things happening here. Number one, I think 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:40.920 that there is an inflated sense of ego. If you 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.800 really think that you can sit in a chair or 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:46.840 somebody Yeah, no, I know. And I'm not saying that 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:50.240 to be you know, like not in a derogatory way 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:50.560 or me. 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:54.600 No, but I'm saying, if it took this person ten, fifteen, 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:58.000 twenty years to get to this chair or this position 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:02.319 or this title, what makes you think that you in 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:05.640 your last semester of college can fill their shoes. 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:07.400 Right, I think that that's so. 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:09.280 I feel like there might be a little bit of 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:15.840 you know, immaturity, inflated sense of ego, and perhaps maybe 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:19.800 they don't have the scope or their view of the 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:21.520 world like that's been established yet. 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:22.640 Do you understand what I mean? 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:26.760 Because it's like I'm a realist, Okay, I can tell 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:30.400 you right now that there is no way that I 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:34.400 would ever be able to sit in a chair where 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:38.520 I am now when I was twenty five. Even so 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:41.600 I think that that might have something to do with it. Now, 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:46.960 I will say in our industry, radio has been kind 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:52.120 to older men. Radio is not kind to older females. 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:55.400 So the older females who have made it to this 0:13:55.520 --> 0:14:00.320 stage of their career where they're celebrating twenty thirty, I 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:03.640 don't know many people who have been celebrating forty years 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:06.679 in radio that are women. So I think that you know, 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:09.000 you look in Boston, there was a guy who just 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:12.760 retired in his seventies. You know, you can look anywhere 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:16.280 across the country. He was at a top forty station 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:19.160 in his seventies. Now, for those of you guys who 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.160 don't know, let me give you a little back. You know, 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:25.800 history here Top forty radio is typically you know, skewed 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:28.960 to females eighteen to thirty four years old. So you 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:32.280 need to tell me that a seventy year old man, okay, 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:35.440 that had has been doing this for years and years 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:38.000 and years, has the capability to stay in that chair, 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:39.880 But you won't afford that to a woman. 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.320 I think the times do need to change, okay, but I. 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:45.880 Also think that we need to allow people to have 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:49.840 the freedom and the ability to use their skills until 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.080 they say their time is up. 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:57.000 Thank you, Carolina. Nobody wanted Frank Sinatra to stop singing this. 0:14:57.080 --> 0:15:00.320 I feel like this man used his voice, which was 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:02.720 his talent. It was you know, it was his looks 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:06.000 at one point, but overall, Frank Sinatra's voice was what 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.640 carried him through life. Like, who are we to say, oh, 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:11.680 Frank Sinatra's fifty go home. We don't want to hear 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:12.320 you anymore. 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:16.120 Absolutely not, babe, babe, I'm gonna give you one more. 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:18.680 I'm gonna I'm gonna go one further than you. 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:24.280 Okay, blow my mind. Go ahead, Tony freaking Bennett, Oh 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:27.160 my god, Tony Bennett. 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:31.040 Okay, So now you want to talk about Frank Sinatra. 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:35.920 Tony Bennett is ninety six years old and is creating 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:40.640 art with Lady Gaga and Ed Sharon or did you 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:42.600 oh know Ed Shearon? I'm not sure if Ed Sharon 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:45.960 did something with him, who was it? I'm thinking Ed 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:48.640 Sharon did something with Andrea Bachelli. Sorry my bad, but no, 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:53.320 you know, I mean Tony Bennett is still creating with 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:56.880 artists that are contemporary artists. And you mean to tell 0:15:56.880 --> 0:15:59.040 me somebody's gonna go to Tony Bennett and be like, hey, bro, 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:02.520 time to wrap it. No, he's a legend. He's gonna 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:03.560 do what he does. 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:07.880 I love this. Let's talk Dolly Parton, Carolina. 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:10.240 Oh no, you can't do this to me. 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:12.920 No, honey, we can't talk about Dolly Parton because you 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:17.520 don't know the love, the deep, deep love that I 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:21.160 have in my soul for Dolly Parton. Then you guys 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:23.960 have no idea how much I care about this woman. 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:25.920 I feel like she's a national treasure. I want to 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.280 bubble wrap her. I don't want anybody to even look 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:33.440 at her the wrong way. No, my Dolly is a jem. 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:34.680 But go ahead, honey, go ahead. 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:36.960 You know I was reading I was reading up on 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:41.200 agism in all different areas, and I stumble the current 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:44.600 across this quote that Dolly Parton said. You know, she said, 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:48.680 after you reach a certain age, they think you're over. Well, 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:51.800 I will never be over. I will be making records 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:53.200 if I have to sell them out of the trunk 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.400 of my car. I've done that in the past, and 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:58.560 I'll do it again. She's like, hell no, I'm seventy 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:00.840 something years old, and I ain't gonna stop singing because 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:01.360 you say so. 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:06.040 I love that so much. And here's another thing. Look 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.920 at Dolly. She is creating new music with her god 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:13.360 daughter Miley Cyrus. She's creating new music with other country 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:18.439 artists in Nashville. She is, and by the way, how 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:21.560 do we not learn or I'm sorry, no, let me 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:24.960 rephrase that. How do we learn if we don't learn 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:26.120 from the legends? 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:28.560 Right? You know? If you think about it. 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:32.280 And we have a friend she's from Japan, and she said, 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:34.760 she's like, we got it twisted. 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:38.840 Here in Japan. Your elders live with you. 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:41.640 Your elders not only are you taking care of them, 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:44.240 but they're taking care of your kids. And you're all 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:47.080 a part of this. And listen, it's not. I think 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:50.000 culturally it's difficult for a lot of different people to 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:52.320 have that happen in their home. And I know there's 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:55.360 personalities and things like that. I get that, But what 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:59.280 she was saying is who better to teach your children 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:03.159 your parents? And I said her, I was like, you 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:05.479 know what, You're absolutely right, and I get the village. 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:07.960 It takes a village and everything. But what she was 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:12.280 saying is there are life lessons that my parents lived 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:15.520 through that I can't tell my kids. But you know what, 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:19.640 just being around them will give them the exposure that 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:22.840 they need in order to make them good people, in 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:25.760 order to keep them learning. And it also keeps the 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:29.000 elders young by being around the younger people, do you 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:31.399 see what I mean? So, by Dolly and by Tony 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:36.360 Bennett creating and collaborating with these new artists, it isn't 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:39.400 about them trying to stay relevant either. It keeps them young, 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:41.720 It gives them the fulfillment that they need. 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:45.120 The problem is a lot of younger people they don't 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:47.560 believe in ogs. You know how we got our ogs 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:50.280 and we respect them. And you're like, I kissed the ring. 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:54.479 I'll never speak ill about this person and this person right, 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:58.120 your trailblazer open up the doors that wouldn't be here 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:03.520 without them. I feel like as generations come up, that's disappearing. 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:06.320 I have people Carolina that I would never in my 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:11.880 life speak ill of, distrispect because of who they are 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:15.840 and what they created. And there are trail blazers in 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:17.720 the area that I existed now when I can only 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:20.880 exist there because of them. But in an area in 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:23.720 an era of well, I'm popping because as a TikTok, 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:27.440 nobody did not inform me. It's disappearing. And you know what, 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:29.760 we got to force it on them. You better respect 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:30.639 who came before you. 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:32.280 Well two things about that. 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:34.919 Do you remember when we had International Women's Day and 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:39.880 I was sitting on a panel with Daniel Manero, Maria Maliedo, 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:46.240 Crystal Roasace, and Angie Martinez. The first thing I believe 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:51.119 that I said was I always always admired Angie. I 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:53.120 never met her before. You know, I never really knew 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:56.040 her before she came over to work with us at iHeart, 0:19:56.520 --> 0:20:02.280 But when I tell you it, I'm humble enough to 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:06.679 always give her her flowers because if it weren't for 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:11.919 an Angie Martinez in afternoon Drive. Previously at Hot ninety 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:15.520 seven I used to listen to her and study her 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:17.400 because I wanted to do this. 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.040 I wanted to be great, I wanted to be successful, 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:21.960 and I looked at her as the model. 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:23.960 You know what it is now people have too much 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:27.199 ego and they're like, nah, she ain't popping, she ain't this, 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:28.080 she ain't. 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:30.680 That, And it's like no, no, no, no, no, sorry, sweeties, 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:31.480 you better take that. 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:35.120 Gave two seats because you don't know what she went 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:38.040 through to get to the point where she is today. 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:40.840 You know the ageism thing to me and I'm sorry, 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:42.760 I'm so fired up and I can't believe like that 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:44.080 you didn't tell me that we were going to do 0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:46.879 this because I love this, this whole thing. It is 0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:51.439 so important to me, especially as a Latina. And you 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:53.880 know what, we're going to get into this part because 0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:56.640 I want to tell you about a situation that recently 0:20:56.720 --> 0:21:03.240 just happened, and we'll do that right after this break. So, honey, 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:07.119 we were talking about how this actually affects, you know, 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:09.720 not only women, I mean women as a whole and 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:15.800