Speaker 1: Ka boom. If you thought more hours a day, minutes
Speaker 1: a week was enough, I think again. He's the last
Speaker 1: remnants of the old Republic, a sole fashion of fairness.
Speaker 1: He treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as
Speaker 1: the rich pill poppers in the penthouse, to clearing house
Speaker 1: of hot takes, break free for something special. The Fifth
Speaker 1: Hour with Ben Maller starts right now in the air everywhere.
Speaker 1: We kick off yet another weekend with the Fifth Hour
Speaker 1: with Ben Mallard, because four hours a night are not enough.
Speaker 1: Eight days a week, eight days a week from the
Speaker 1: Mallard Podcast studio deep in the north Woods. We're back
Speaker 1: at it and we thank you for finding the show,
Speaker 1: for supporting the podcast. The numbers have been great. We
Speaker 1: are here every weekend, even a holiday weekend, and we
Speaker 1: are here for you. And you know by now if
Speaker 1: you're listening, chances are you are aware that this is
Speaker 1: a spinoff of the Overnight Radio show and it is
Speaker 1: only available in the domain of the podcast and the
Speaker 1: vast i Heart podcast Network the power of that, but
Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcast. So we thank you for
Speaker 1: spending some time with me flying solo. Uh. We have
Speaker 1: a lot percolating in the Fifth Hour world and the
Speaker 1: radio show. It's like intertwined. These things are intertwined. We'll
Speaker 1: get to a the P principles. The P principles. We
Speaker 1: have the surprising request. The surprising request from a listener.
Speaker 1: It's really not a request, that's I'm not phrasing that properly.
Speaker 1: It's really a message from a listener of complaint. But
Speaker 1: I have to set the listeners straight. So I'll explain
Speaker 1: what that's all about. But we begin with final preparations. Now,
Speaker 1: if you have been listening to me over the years,
Speaker 1: you know that there is a ritual that we have
Speaker 1: on our show. It was on the radio show for
Speaker 1: many many years, and then we moved it to the podcast,
Speaker 1: and then we shifted it to a YouTube platform. I'm
Speaker 1: referring to announce your pronouns Benny Versus the Penny, and
Speaker 1: the season is going to kick off next weekend. So
Speaker 1: if you're listening to this podcast on Friday, assuming there
Speaker 1: are no last minute hiccuffs and things don't go wrong,
Speaker 1: we will have Benny Versus the Penny. It's not going
Speaker 1: to be on this podcast unless something has gone typically wrong.
Speaker 1: We are in conversations in conversations with others to put
Speaker 1: the podcast together, which is not it's not a party,
Speaker 1: it's the Benny Versus the Penny, which is a standalone show,
Speaker 1: will be a video a component to it, and we
Speaker 1: will yet again attempt to take down the sports books
Speaker 1: and we can remind you of some of the keys
Speaker 1: of that. Of course, as we point out every year
Speaker 1: on Benny Versus the Penny, that the sports book sets
Speaker 1: the opening line, but the gambling public is the one
Speaker 1: that establishes the final line. A lot of people are
Speaker 1: confused by that, uh, and there's this overconfidence based on
Speaker 1: the gambling line. But we'll get into all of the
Speaker 1: different truisms of gambling and uh, you know, think in
Speaker 1: terms of betting a little to win a lot and
Speaker 1: the types of gambler that are out there. And one
Speaker 1: of the things that we stress on Benny Versus the
Speaker 1: Penny is to avoid being the one wearing the dunce
Speaker 1: cap right in in gambling, it's very similar to Wall Street.
Speaker 1: They love the casual gambler, they love the Cambel casual gambler,
Speaker 1: and they call it get that dub dumb money right
Speaker 1: the book. He's love the school air, the square is
Speaker 1: the average unsophisticated gambler whose decision making is based on
Speaker 1: a hunch or some kind of manipulation. Uh. He might
Speaker 1: have a system, or you just watch some guy on
Speaker 1: ESPN or Fox or CBS or NBC say something said, Well,
Speaker 1: like I said it, it must be true. Uh, and
Speaker 1: then you you go down that garden path and you
Speaker 1: end up getting some trouble. So we'll give you Benny
Speaker 1: Versus the Penny. I wish I had a big announcement now.
Speaker 1: A good talk show host would say, Hey, it's going
Speaker 1: to be at this time on this platform, so you
Speaker 1: better tune in. But that's not what we're doing. We're
Speaker 1: still working out the final details even at this hour,
Speaker 1: and it will be onwards and upwards for Benny versus
Speaker 1: the Penny, and I am excited about it. I love
Speaker 1: Benny versus the Penny because that means football is in
Speaker 1: the air, all right, and we want to make you
Speaker 1: a professional winning gamble. Now, not a square, right we
Speaker 1: mentioned a square is the person that the casinos love.
Speaker 1: They love the square gambler. You do not want to
Speaker 1: be the square, right, You want to be a sharp.
Speaker 1: The sharps are usually members of a big syndicate. They
Speaker 1: have the the insider information and all that the weather, developments, injuries,
Speaker 1: all of the important information. You want to be more
Speaker 1: like that? Not that. Am I a sharp? No, I'm
Speaker 1: not as sharp. Of course I'm not as sharp, but uh,
Speaker 1: I got a pretty good amount of information. I have
Speaker 1: access to a lot of information. So hey, that's Benny
Speaker 1: versus the Penny. And just if you've been asking, I
Speaker 1: know we've gotten some people that have been sending me
Speaker 1: messages on social media. What's going on with Benny versus
Speaker 1: the Penny? Uh? Is it gonna be back? Yes, it
Speaker 1: will be back. Where is it gonna be? I can't
Speaker 1: say that yet. As I said, I can't say it yet,
Speaker 1: but you will be no worse for the wear you
Speaker 1: will find out follow us on social media. I will
Speaker 1: send it out on Twitter, I'll send it out on
Speaker 1: Facebook and even Instagram. And let you know. Now, if
Speaker 1: you listen to the radio show this past week, you
Speaker 1: you heard Eddie Garcia. Was Eddie happy on the Friday
Speaker 1: show or what? Eddie was so excited at one ft
Speaker 1: out the door, one ft out the door as he
Speaker 1: is preparing for a vacation. Eddie's going to Washington d
Speaker 1: C infective and reminded if he didn't hear the Friday show,
Speaker 1: and I know this is on Friday as well, but
Speaker 1: Eddie did say, if you're a listener within driving distance
Speaker 1: of Washington, d C, Eddie is willing to hang out
Speaker 1: with you. He met Doc Mike in Chicago and Aida
Speaker 1: pizza while Doc ad a salad, which was was very awkward.
Speaker 1: But Eddie is going to be away. It's Eddie's wild vacation,
Speaker 1: which means the most important week on our calendar, the
Speaker 1: most important week for sports talk radio. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: out and say, for the rest of the year, is
Speaker 1: this mean week? Now? Why is that? Why is this
Speaker 1: the most important week? I'll tell you. The sports talk
Speaker 1: radio industry is built on the foundation of the NFL.
Speaker 1: We all rally around the National Football League, and it
Speaker 1: takes a village of people to put this together. Like
Speaker 1: the networks, they encourage you to take your vacation in
Speaker 1: the summertime. Now a lot of people take vacation. I
Speaker 1: will take time off in late December because a lot
Speaker 1: of things shut down. So there's this weird dead period
Speaker 1: in football season. Is this weird dead football period in
Speaker 1: the middle of the season there, and Uh. The thing
Speaker 1: about it, all right is that's that's okay for like
Speaker 1: a week, but the beginning of the year, you want
Speaker 1: to get off to a good start. You want to
Speaker 1: get off you want to mean business, right, you want
Speaker 1: to get out of the gates, out of you know,
Speaker 1: and feel good about yourself. It's like the way college
Speaker 1: football teams typically schedule money game is early on. Uh,
Speaker 1: they line up the hostess, schedule the cupcake, the apple pie,
Speaker 1: all of that because they want to get off to
Speaker 1: you start feel good and get a couple of wins
Speaker 1: under your belt before you start getting some difficult, more
Speaker 1: difficult competition. Well, the same thing goes on in sports radio, right,
Speaker 1: It's very important to get off to a good start.
Speaker 1: You want to have everything clicking sounding good. Um, there's
Speaker 1: more commercials that you'll hear during this time of the year.
Speaker 1: So we've Draft Kings, which is a fine sponsor not
Speaker 1: only of the radio show but also the Fifth Hour
Speaker 1: podcast as an example. Um, so it's an important time here.
Speaker 1: But anyway is gonna be gone, and that means we
Speaker 1: will be stuck with Ned Flanders, the buckaroo, the man
Speaker 1: that believes he's God's gift to comedy, will be in
Speaker 1: the news room providing us with sporting news. So it's
Speaker 1: one of those deals when he's in here, Brian Finley,
Speaker 1: give us twenty two minutes and we'll give you seven scores.
Speaker 1: That's essentially how that's gonna go. But again, it's the
Speaker 1: most important week of the NFL season, and we will
Speaker 1: have live, original audio content every single night during the weekend,
Speaker 1: and we'll hand over the baton. Eddie's handing over the
Speaker 1: baton to someone that will sabotage the show, So we
Speaker 1: were guaranteeing that there will be sabotage. Also, I've got
Speaker 1: a number of messages from people saying, is that blind
Speaker 1: on Blind Octagon a real thing? Is that actually gonna happen?
Speaker 1: And if you miss the overnight show this week, we
Speaker 1: had a brew haa haa a Donny Brook a knock down,
Speaker 1: drag out battle royal if you will, between Blind Scott
Speaker 1: and Blind Sea Bass. Now, Blind Sea Bass is in Nashville.
Speaker 1: He stopped calling the show for a while. All of
Speaker 1: a sudden, a Blind Sea Bass entered the Fray again
Speaker 1: and has returned to the show, and he's very upset
Speaker 1: with Blind Scott because blind Scott and Boston. According to
Speaker 1: blind Sea Bass was supposed to help him get a
Speaker 1: support dog, and then blind Scott like disappeared. I don't
Speaker 1: know all the facts, but I just know there's bad
Speaker 1: blood and blind Scott called up and he was like, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna partake in this. And
Speaker 1: then of course blind Scott then talked himself into doing it.
Speaker 1: He talked himself into doing it, and I'm all about it.
Speaker 1: I think it would be a great week to do it.
Speaker 1: Blind Sea Bass Blind Scott the first blind on blind
Speaker 1: Verbal Octagon. If you're unfamiliar with the Verbal Octagon, it
Speaker 1: is audio fisticuffs and it's all like don'keet kong uh.
Speaker 1: It's one of the more enjoyable things that we do,
Speaker 1: and it's essentially a way to settle a beef. Be honest. Here,
Speaker 1: we've had women in calling. We had Tammy and Montana,
Speaker 1: the late Genie in Medford in the octagon. That was
Speaker 1: one of the more famous ones. Pete and Pittsburgh versus
Speaker 1: the World was was great. We had real talk who
Speaker 1: was in an octagon back in the day. There's been
Speaker 1: been many different versions of the Octagon, but We've never
Speaker 1: had a blind on blind version, so I want to
Speaker 1: make that happen. I'm thinking Monday into Tuesday or Tuesday
Speaker 1: into Wednesday. That would be the perfect set up. Three rounds,
Speaker 1: a knockdown, drag out steel cage deathmatch in the octagon.
Speaker 1: So hopefully that will we'll take place down. Meanwhile, let's
Speaker 1: get to the secret sauce, if you will, the Secret Sauce.
Speaker 1: So this is another one of those things I've been
Speaker 1: meaning to get to and I have not gotten to it.
Speaker 1: A number of people have said, hey, the show that
Speaker 1: you do is a lot different than many of the
Speaker 1: other radio shows, which is which could be a compliment
Speaker 1: at its best, which means as good as all the
Speaker 1: rest or or could be a derogatory term at its worst, right,
Speaker 1: So I guess it just depends how you want to
Speaker 1: interpret it. So I am going to interpret it that
Speaker 1: that is a compliment that if you've you've bothered to
Speaker 1: send me a message via social media or email and said, hey,
Speaker 1: I like you know X, Y and Z about the show, uh,
Speaker 1: and it's different and why is it different? What makes
Speaker 1: it different and all that stuff. So I've gotten a
Speaker 1: few of those messages and I meant to get to it,
Speaker 1: and we've had other things and so I have not
Speaker 1: gotten to it. We certainly don't reinvent a wheel. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that what we do is any better
Speaker 1: than anyone else. Everyone has their own desires and own
Speaker 1: their their own taste and all that stuff. And people
Speaker 1: full of hot air, right, We're all full of hot air.
Speaker 1: We're all gas bags and blowhards with tremendous ounce of
Speaker 1: verbosity on the radio show. But to give you the answer,
Speaker 1: and I I used this in honor of Doc Mike.
Speaker 1: We had actually considered putting Doc on this podcast Full Disclosure,
Speaker 1: Doc Mike, uh, and he was unavailable because he was traveling.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, well, maybe we'll put Blair
Speaker 1: and Made on. In fact, we had booked Blair and
Speaker 1: Maine for this podcast, and then Blair and Maine decided
Speaker 1: to turn his phone off at the time we were
Speaker 1: supposed to interview Blair made It's hard to interview a
Speaker 1: guy when his phone is turned off, so that didn't happen. Um,
Speaker 1: So anyway, we got to the point, so I said,
Speaker 1: this is the time, said we have a little extra
Speaker 1: time now on this Friday podcast. So let's get into it.
Speaker 1: And in honor of Doc Mike, the keys to a
Speaker 1: good sports talk radio show, or any radio show for
Speaker 1: that matter, it's the P principles P E E. Now,
Speaker 1: this is not to be confused with the kiss method.
Speaker 1: Keep it simple stupid. That's the kiss method, which is
Speaker 1: from the Navy, and I love that and I use
Speaker 1: that quite a bit, and it's it's true, keep it
Speaker 1: simple stupid. But this is the P principle in honor
Speaker 1: of Doc Mike, a regular caller to the show, who
Speaker 1: has pointed out many many times that he enjoys drinking
Speaker 1: bodily fluids. And he is convinced, and and Doc has
Speaker 1: has said this off the air as much as he
Speaker 1: said it on the air, that he believes he will
Speaker 1: live to be a very very old man. Doc's getting
Speaker 1: up there in age now. When Doc called me, he
Speaker 1: was in his mid mid mid age. Now he's getting
Speaker 1: up there. But he swears, okay, Doc Mike swears that
Speaker 1: he's gonna gonna live to be like a hundred ten
Speaker 1: hundred fifteen or older than that because of because of urine.
Speaker 1: But anyway, the P principle get to the point. Please,
Speaker 1: the pre principle is passion. That's the p right. You
Speaker 1: can't fake it, and that's a big part of the
Speaker 1: secret sauce. If you have disinterests. I believe this is
Speaker 1: true in anything in life. It just happens that my
Speaker 1: chosen profession is radio or broadcasting in general. But if
Speaker 1: you have disinterest, it will show in your work. And
Speaker 1: that's true whether you're an athlete, playing in a game,
Speaker 1: whether you're a truck driver, whether you're cleaning toilets, waiting tables,
Speaker 1: working in an office. If you're disinterested, that will show.
Speaker 1: People will know that you're disinterested, and that uncaring attitude
Speaker 1: is toxic. It is absolutely toxic. So passion is a
Speaker 1: big part of this. And I had a program director
Speaker 1: that drilled this into me early in my career and
Speaker 1: it's something that I it's very important lesson and it
Speaker 1: oozes out. It literally oozes out on a regular basis.
Speaker 1: But this programming out there, he pulled me aside. He said, listen, Uh,
Speaker 1: it's very difficult to keep an audience. But there's one
Speaker 1: thing that you can do is be authentic. Have have
Speaker 1: the passion right. And he said he's listen. If you
Speaker 1: have apathy and disregard for the things that you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Why would a person listening I want to keep listening.
Speaker 1: That is the biggest way to turn the dial or
Speaker 1: to turn off a podcast and go somewhere else. That
Speaker 1: is the click. And that's not the click you want.
Speaker 1: That's not the click of approval. That's the click of
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go find something else. And it is true
Speaker 1: right there now, there's there are droughts. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: sit here and lie and say that every single day
Speaker 1: is wonderful. There are droughts when the sporting news is
Speaker 1: not as sexy, it doesn't have the razmatazz, it's not
Speaker 1: as exciting, but it's never barren. Now, I lived in
Speaker 1: an era of sports radio where it was barren, and
Speaker 1: that was back in the stone age, before social media,
Speaker 1: before the Internet and all that stuff. And we're all
Speaker 1: looking for content. We're all going down the same avenues,
Speaker 1: the same highways and byways trying to find content. But
Speaker 1: there was a time when people just depended on newspapers
Speaker 1: and there was the AP, sports Wire and Sports Ticker,
Speaker 1: and I worked at the mighty six ninety. I started
Speaker 1: as an intern in San Diego and worked my way around,
Speaker 1: and that was the Sahara Desert. That was as barren
Speaker 1: like the Sahara Desert, uh and it was very difficult.
Speaker 1: At times you had to wait praying there would be
Speaker 1: some kind of ap breaking news message that would carry
Speaker 1: you through the day. It's not like that. Now. There's
Speaker 1: a whole lot of places to look. There's more places
Speaker 1: to look than ever before. But there's there's good stories
Speaker 1: out there. But again, that ties into passion. It ties
Speaker 1: into passion. You gotta have the passion. If you have apathy,
Speaker 1: you're done. You're done and again, and not for just sports,
Speaker 1: but for anything else. The second thing, as the p
Speaker 1: principles provided to you exclusively on the fifth Hour with
Speaker 1: Ben Mallory, Enthusiasm. Now that might not mean what you
Speaker 1: think that. To me, what that means is you have
Speaker 1: something to say. It ties into the passion, right, passionate
Speaker 1: enthusiasm pretty similar, But enthusiasm. I put that in the
Speaker 1: category where you don't want to be on the fence. Okay,
Speaker 1: you don't want to be on the fence that you're
Speaker 1: not in Switzerland and you have the good cop and
Speaker 1: the bad cop. You have the good guys and the
Speaker 1: bad guys, and you don't want to be walking down
Speaker 1: the middle of the road and just go through the
Speaker 1: motions and you not not have an opinion. Now you
Speaker 1: shouldn't fake an opinion. But if you don't have a
Speaker 1: strong opinion about something, and I believe this to be true,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Like? It drives me crazy. I've
Speaker 1: worked with people over the years and I'll bring something
Speaker 1: up and I'm excited about it and they'll be I
Speaker 1: don't occur, And that ties back into the pay passion apathy, right,
Speaker 1: you don't want to have you don't want to have.
Speaker 1: The apathy that is the destroyer of fun is apathy.
Speaker 1: You don't wanna do that. So that always drives me nuts.
Speaker 1: But it's enthusiasm, right, and genuinely have enthusiasm and don't
Speaker 1: fake it. And also you gotta pay attention to detail
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Have a little bit of vim
Speaker 1: and vigor uh with with your statements. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: also all tied into enthusiasm. And the final part of
Speaker 1: the pay principle of sports radio is in it tayment.
Speaker 1: And this is the most important thing. And I don't
Speaker 1: listen to a lot of sports talk radio because I
Speaker 1: work in the business. I listen to a little bit.
Speaker 1: And I hear a lot of people that are more
Speaker 1: worried about getting stats in and being the smartest person
Speaker 1: in the room, and they put entertainment as a secondary thing.
Speaker 1: And that is a huge mistake, a huge mistake, and
Speaker 1: it ties back to the the times we're in right now,
Speaker 1: right And as as much as I said you can
Speaker 1: get all kinds of status you want on the internet
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, it is true. Uh, And if
Speaker 1: you're going to tune in, whether it's this podcast or
Speaker 1: the radio show or just any kind of audio program
Speaker 1: or for that matter, of television, you are giving away
Speaker 1: the most valuable thing you have. The most valuable thing
Speaker 1: you have. We say it all the time is your time.
Speaker 1: You don't know how much of it you have, you
Speaker 1: don't know when it's gonna end, and there's a finite
Speaker 1: amount of it. So for you to give some of
Speaker 1: your listenership, some of your time for a program, you
Speaker 1: gotta be entertained. Right, Well, what's the point of doing it?
Speaker 1: You you got the daily grind, the nine to five,
Speaker 1: the the rat race, and so you want to be
Speaker 1: part of something and and spend a little bit of time,
Speaker 1: a little bit of time where you're just you're enjoying yourself.
Speaker 1: And if you can combine those two things, which I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that we do, but if while you're working
Speaker 1: with a lot of truck drivers that listen to the show,
Speaker 1: that are going all over right from sea to Shining
Speaker 1: Sea and beyond, and I always love when they I'll
Speaker 1: get a message from a truck driver and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, I listen to show and it helps me
Speaker 1: get through four hours of my horrifically terrible drive going
Speaker 1: from Kalamazoo to tim Buck two and it's you know,
Speaker 1: terrible and all the stuff. So that that is pretty cool.
Speaker 1: I do appreciate that. Uh. Now, the mail bag is
Speaker 1: on Sunday, as we press on here on the fifth hour,
Speaker 1: so the mail bag is on Sunday. But I did
Speaker 1: have one message that cannot wait for the mail bag,
Speaker 1: so let's get into it. Let's jump into this a
Speaker 1: little bit early. Dan who lives in southern California. Now
Speaker 1: he says he lives in Westwood, which is a very
Speaker 1: bougie neighborhood. If you're not familiar with geography in California,
Speaker 1: that is where you see l A is located. I
Speaker 1: think you could probably know that if you're a sports person,
Speaker 1: because or you should know that rather because the Wizard
Speaker 1: of Westwood, John Wooden, and with that is the actrop.
Speaker 1: Dan wrote in. This is actually um about ten days ago,
Speaker 1: and I didn't get to it last week, so I'll
Speaker 1: get to it here before I forget. So Dan wrote in,
Speaker 1: and he was ripping my obsession with the Code of
Speaker 1: the West. Now this is another one of those things,
Speaker 1: another one of my michigas, as my late grandfather would say,
Speaker 1: where I will reference the Code of the West on
Speaker 1: a regular basis, and I think it's an important thing
Speaker 1: and it's it's something I model my life after many
Speaker 1: of the the laws, if you will, of the Code
Speaker 1: of the West. And I look into that. And so anyway,
Speaker 1: Dan in Westwood, he wrote in and he said that
Speaker 1: I the Code of the West is nice, but John
Speaker 1: Wooden's seven point Creed is better, and that I should
Speaker 1: credit wouldn't because what Wooden did was better than the
Speaker 1: Code of the West and all that stuff, and I
Speaker 1: should talk talk more about John Wooden's seven point Creed. No,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't passed away. A number years ago, I was
Speaker 1: lucky enough to have Wooden as a guest on the
Speaker 1: radio and very cool. And I love the stories about
Speaker 1: John Wooden. The last couple of years of his life.
Speaker 1: He lived right near the Fox Sports Radio studios and
Speaker 1: the Sherman Sherman Oaks neighborhood of of l A. And
Speaker 1: he lived up in the hill and he come down
Speaker 1: and eat. And I heard from multiple people around Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio that they'd run into John Wooden, greatest college
Speaker 1: basketball coach of all time, and Wooden would be eating
Speaker 1: like fried chicken or a cheeseburger and fries, and and
Speaker 1: they're like, well, I can't believe he's doing that. He's
Speaker 1: like nineties something years old and here he is eating
Speaker 1: the most unhealthy diet. And I love that because when
Speaker 1: you get you get to a certain age, you don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about the long game anymore. When you
Speaker 1: get closer to the pearly gates, you no longer have
Speaker 1: to worry about, Hey, is this gonna hit me in
Speaker 1: ten years or fifteen years or twenty years, Am I
Speaker 1: gonna be Okay? No, you don't worry about that, So
Speaker 1: I John wouldn't live that anyone. Get back to the story.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Dan, I gotta carry away there anyway, So
Speaker 1: Dan again points out that John Wooden seven point Creed
Speaker 1: throughout the lengthy Here, I'm gonna give you some of
Speaker 1: the the cliff notes Virgin here the seven point Creed
Speaker 1: is better than the Code of the West, and he
Speaker 1: wants me to use on the show. Blah blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: All right, So I will engage you, Dan, and you're
Speaker 1: listening to the fifth hour. So I have dug up
Speaker 1: the the John Wooden John Wooden's seven point Creed, and
Speaker 1: I also have, of course the Code of the West.
Speaker 1: And then we'll do a side and by side comparison.
Speaker 1: Now I admit going in, I'm biased. I am biased.
Speaker 1: I've heard of the John Wooden seven point Creed. But
Speaker 1: the Code of the West resonated with me. It resonated
Speaker 1: with me more I I attached myself to it as
Speaker 1: the pearls of wisdom UH in life. But I'll give
Speaker 1: you the John Wooden seven point Creed first, and then
Speaker 1: we'll give you the Code of the West. So the
Speaker 1: seven point Creed from John Wooden, UH number number seven
Speaker 1: is pray for guidance and count and give thanks for
Speaker 1: your blessings every day, would be grateful. That's essentially what
Speaker 1: he's saying with number seven. Number six was build a
Speaker 1: shelter against a rainy day. You also had to make
Speaker 1: friendship a fine art. Drink deeply from good books, especially
Speaker 1: the Bible. So a lot of religious undertones or overtones,
Speaker 1: depending how you look at it. Make each day your masterpiece. Now,
Speaker 1: that is the most famous of the seven point creed
Speaker 1: of John Wooden, that is the one that has had legs.
Speaker 1: Make each day your masterpiece. Uh. There's also help others
Speaker 1: and the final part of John Wooden's seven point creeds
Speaker 1: be true to yourself. Now, make each day your masterpieces
Speaker 1: great hell paying others, Yeah, you should help others, be
Speaker 1: true to yourself. Those are all good things. Good books,
Speaker 1: you know. That's that's great. And he mentioned the Bible
Speaker 1: here and all. I have nothing against all of that.
Speaker 1: But the Code of the West, for Dan and Westwood,
Speaker 1: the Code of the West blows the doors off the
Speaker 1: seven point creed. Right. I'll give you some of the
Speaker 1: the tenants of the Code of the West. It's no
Speaker 1: when to draw the line, No when to draw the line?
Speaker 1: Is that not an important thing in life to know
Speaker 1: when to draw the line. I say yes, I say
Speaker 1: yes on that, remember that some things aren't for sale. Yeah. Otherwise,
Speaker 1: don't whore yourself out right that you don't. You don't
Speaker 1: have to whore yourself out for everything in life, in business,
Speaker 1: you gotta have pride. There's there's there has to be
Speaker 1: some kind of limit, is what I'm trying to say. Now,
Speaker 1: there's also this part of the Code of the talk
Speaker 1: less and say more, which is a version of what
Speaker 1: I learned at my Heart University. When in doubt, keep
Speaker 1: it out. When in doubt, keep it out. But essentially,
Speaker 1: less is more ride for the brand. Now, what does
Speaker 1: that one mean? Does that mean the family? Does that
Speaker 1: mean who you work for? Does that mean all of
Speaker 1: the above? Also on the Code of the West, when
Speaker 1: you make a promise, keep it And that's important. You
Speaker 1: want to be a person that is reliable, dependable, and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Also, be tough but fair. Be tough
Speaker 1: but fair. That's an important one. Also, you don't want
Speaker 1: to be the carpet that people walk all over, right,
Speaker 1: But you also don't want to be a hard oh
Speaker 1: that everyone hates. And as soon as you leave the room,
Speaker 1: they're like, what an asshole that particular person was. Holy crap,
Speaker 1: So be tough but fair. What's not to like about that? Uh.
Speaker 1: Here's one I use all the time. It's a very
Speaker 1: important one on the code of the West. Do what
Speaker 1: has to be done, do what happens, what has to
Speaker 1: be done. And to me, that means it's not always
Speaker 1: gonna be beautiful. It's not always gonna be pretty, it's
Speaker 1: not gonna be great, but you gotta do it right,
Speaker 1: you gotta do it, do what has to be done.
Speaker 1: There's also always finish what you start. That's an important
Speaker 1: one and it ties back to don't cut corners. You
Speaker 1: should not cut corners. That's a bad job by you
Speaker 1: don't do it. Uh. And so that's important. And don't
Speaker 1: give up. Finish if you start something, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: whether it's a radio show or a project around the
Speaker 1: house at d I Y do it yourself project, finish
Speaker 1: what you start. Uh. There's also take pride in your work,
Speaker 1: which is another important one. If you're gonna put your
Speaker 1: name on it and put your blood, sweat, in tears
Speaker 1: into something, then you should take pride in it. You
Speaker 1: should absolutely take pride in it. And if you don't,
Speaker 1: that's a bad job by you. And then the the
Speaker 1: final tenant of the good Book, the Code of the
Speaker 1: West is to live each day with courage, and that's
Speaker 1: important too. Uh do what has to be done is
Speaker 1: to me the most important finish what you start, which
Speaker 1: is the same. It's kind of one in one of
Speaker 1: the same on that, but but many of those are
Speaker 1: again just to recap Dan, we did decide by side
Speaker 1: comparison as I expected. As I expected, the Code of
Speaker 1: the West wins the day. The Code of the West
Speaker 1: wins the day. Anyway, we're gonna put the baby to bed.
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Speaker 1: a wonderful, glorious rest of your Saturday. We hope you
Speaker 1: enjoyed the podcast. Here the p Principles in honor of
Speaker 1: Doc Mike and slaying John Wooden's seven point Create Compared
Speaker 1: to the Code of the West and all the other
Speaker 1: things that we got to We'll catch you on the
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