1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Ka boom. If you thought more hours a day, minutes 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: a week was enough, I think again. He's the last 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: remnants of the old Republic, a sole fashion of fairness. 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: He treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: the rich pill poppers in the penthouse, to clearing house 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: of hot takes, break free for something special. The Fifth 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: Hour with Ben Maller starts right now in the air everywhere. 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: We kick off yet another weekend with the Fifth Hour 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: with Ben Mallard, because four hours a night are not enough. 10 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: Eight days a week, eight days a week from the 11 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: Mallard Podcast studio deep in the north Woods. We're back 12 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: at it and we thank you for finding the show, 13 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: for supporting the podcast. The numbers have been great. We 14 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: are here every weekend, even a holiday weekend, and we 15 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: are here for you. And you know by now if 16 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: you're listening, chances are you are aware that this is 17 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: a spinoff of the Overnight Radio show and it is 18 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: only available in the domain of the podcast and the 19 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: vast i Heart podcast Network the power of that, but 20 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcast. So we thank you for 21 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: spending some time with me flying solo. Uh. We have 22 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: a lot percolating in the Fifth Hour world and the 23 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: radio show. It's like intertwined. These things are intertwined. We'll 24 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: get to a the P principles. The P principles. We 25 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: have the surprising request. The surprising request from a listener. 26 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: It's really not a request, that's I'm not phrasing that properly. 27 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: It's really a message from a listener of complaint. But 28 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: I have to set the listeners straight. So I'll explain 29 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: what that's all about. But we begin with final preparations. Now, 30 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: if you have been listening to me over the years, 31 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: you know that there is a ritual that we have 32 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: on our show. It was on the radio show for 33 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: many many years, and then we moved it to the podcast, 34 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: and then we shifted it to a YouTube platform. I'm 35 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: referring to announce your pronouns Benny Versus the Penny, and 36 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: the season is going to kick off next weekend. So 37 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: if you're listening to this podcast on Friday, assuming there 38 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: are no last minute hiccuffs and things don't go wrong, 39 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: we will have Benny Versus the Penny. It's not going 40 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: to be on this podcast unless something has gone typically wrong. 41 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: We are in conversations in conversations with others to put 42 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: the podcast together, which is not it's not a party, 43 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: it's the Benny Versus the Penny, which is a standalone show, 44 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: will be a video a component to it, and we 45 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: will yet again attempt to take down the sports books 46 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: and we can remind you of some of the keys 47 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: of that. Of course, as we point out every year 48 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: on Benny Versus the Penny, that the sports book sets 49 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: the opening line, but the gambling public is the one 50 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: that establishes the final line. A lot of people are 51 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: confused by that, uh, and there's this overconfidence based on 52 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: the gambling line. But we'll get into all of the 53 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: different truisms of gambling and uh, you know, think in 54 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: terms of betting a little to win a lot and 55 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: the types of gambler that are out there. And one 56 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: of the things that we stress on Benny Versus the 57 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: Penny is to avoid being the one wearing the dunce 58 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: cap right in in gambling, it's very similar to Wall Street. 59 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: They love the casual gambler, they love the Cambel casual gambler, 60 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: and they call it get that dub dumb money right 61 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: the book. He's love the school air, the square is 62 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: the average unsophisticated gambler whose decision making is based on 63 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: a hunch or some kind of manipulation. Uh. He might 64 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: have a system, or you just watch some guy on 65 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: ESPN or Fox or CBS or NBC say something said, Well, 66 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: like I said it, it must be true. Uh, and 67 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: then you you go down that garden path and you 68 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: end up getting some trouble. So we'll give you Benny 69 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: Versus the Penny. I wish I had a big announcement now. 70 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: A good talk show host would say, Hey, it's going 71 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: to be at this time on this platform, so you 72 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: better tune in. But that's not what we're doing. We're 73 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: still working out the final details even at this hour, 74 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: and it will be onwards and upwards for Benny versus 75 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: the Penny, and I am excited about it. I love 76 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: Benny versus the Penny because that means football is in 77 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: the air, all right, and we want to make you 78 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: a professional winning gamble. Now, not a square, right we 79 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: mentioned a square is the person that the casinos love. 80 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: They love the square gambler. You do not want to 81 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: be the square, right, You want to be a sharp. 82 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: The sharps are usually members of a big syndicate. They 83 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: have the the insider information and all that the weather, developments, injuries, 84 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: all of the important information. You want to be more 85 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: like that? Not that. Am I a sharp? No, I'm 86 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: not as sharp. Of course I'm not as sharp, but uh, 87 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: I got a pretty good amount of information. I have 88 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: access to a lot of information. So hey, that's Benny 89 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: versus the Penny. And just if you've been asking, I 90 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: know we've gotten some people that have been sending me 91 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: messages on social media. What's going on with Benny versus 92 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: the Penny? Uh? Is it gonna be back? Yes, it 93 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: will be back. Where is it gonna be? I can't 94 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: say that yet. As I said, I can't say it yet, 95 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: but you will be no worse for the wear you 96 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: will find out follow us on social media. I will 97 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: send it out on Twitter, I'll send it out on 98 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: Facebook and even Instagram. And let you know. Now, if 99 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: you listen to the radio show this past week, you 100 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: you heard Eddie Garcia. Was Eddie happy on the Friday 101 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: show or what? Eddie was so excited at one ft 102 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: out the door, one ft out the door as he 103 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: is preparing for a vacation. Eddie's going to Washington d 104 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: C infective and reminded if he didn't hear the Friday show, 105 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: and I know this is on Friday as well, but 106 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: Eddie did say, if you're a listener within driving distance 107 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: of Washington, d C, Eddie is willing to hang out 108 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: with you. He met Doc Mike in Chicago and Aida 109 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: pizza while Doc ad a salad, which was was very awkward. 110 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: But Eddie is going to be away. It's Eddie's wild vacation, 111 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: which means the most important week on our calendar, the 112 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: most important week for sports talk radio. I'm gonna go 113 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: out and say, for the rest of the year, is 114 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: this mean week? Now? Why is that? Why is this 115 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: the most important week? I'll tell you. The sports talk 116 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: radio industry is built on the foundation of the NFL. 117 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: We all rally around the National Football League, and it 118 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: takes a village of people to put this together. Like 119 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: the networks, they encourage you to take your vacation in 120 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: the summertime. Now a lot of people take vacation. I 121 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: will take time off in late December because a lot 122 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: of things shut down. So there's this weird dead period 123 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: in football season. Is this weird dead football period in 124 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: the middle of the season there, and Uh. The thing 125 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: about it, all right is that's that's okay for like 126 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: a week, but the beginning of the year, you want 127 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: to get off to a good start. You want to 128 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: get off you want to mean business, right, you want 129 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: to get out of the gates, out of you know, 130 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: and feel good about yourself. It's like the way college 131 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: football teams typically schedule money game is early on. Uh, 132 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: they line up the hostess, schedule the cupcake, the apple pie, 133 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: all of that because they want to get off to 134 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: you start feel good and get a couple of wins 135 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: under your belt before you start getting some difficult, more 136 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: difficult competition. Well, the same thing goes on in sports radio, right, 137 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: It's very important to get off to a good start. 138 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: You want to have everything clicking sounding good. Um, there's 139 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: more commercials that you'll hear during this time of the year. 140 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: So we've Draft Kings, which is a fine sponsor not 141 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: only of the radio show but also the Fifth Hour 142 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: podcast as an example. Um, so it's an important time here. 143 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: But anyway is gonna be gone, and that means we 144 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: will be stuck with Ned Flanders, the buckaroo, the man 145 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: that believes he's God's gift to comedy, will be in 146 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: the news room providing us with sporting news. So it's 147 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: one of those deals when he's in here, Brian Finley, 148 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: give us twenty two minutes and we'll give you seven scores. 149 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: That's essentially how that's gonna go. But again, it's the 150 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: most important week of the NFL season, and we will 151 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: have live, original audio content every single night during the weekend, 152 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: and we'll hand over the baton. Eddie's handing over the 153 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: baton to someone that will sabotage the show, So we 154 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: were guaranteeing that there will be sabotage. Also, I've got 155 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: a number of messages from people saying, is that blind 156 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: on Blind Octagon a real thing? Is that actually gonna happen? 157 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: And if you miss the overnight show this week, we 158 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: had a brew haa haa a Donny Brook a knock down, 159 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: drag out battle royal if you will, between Blind Scott 160 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: and Blind Sea Bass. Now, Blind Sea Bass is in Nashville. 161 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: He stopped calling the show for a while. All of 162 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: a sudden, a Blind Sea Bass entered the Fray again 163 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: and has returned to the show, and he's very upset 164 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: with Blind Scott because blind Scott and Boston. According to 165 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: blind Sea Bass was supposed to help him get a 166 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: support dog, and then blind Scott like disappeared. I don't 167 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: know all the facts, but I just know there's bad 168 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: blood and blind Scott called up and he was like, Hey, 169 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna partake in this. And 170 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: then of course blind Scott then talked himself into doing it. 171 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: He talked himself into doing it, and I'm all about it. 172 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: I think it would be a great week to do it. 173 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: Blind Sea Bass Blind Scott the first blind on blind 174 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: Verbal Octagon. If you're unfamiliar with the Verbal Octagon, it 175 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: is audio fisticuffs and it's all like don'keet kong uh. 176 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: It's one of the more enjoyable things that we do, 177 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: and it's essentially a way to settle a beef. Be honest. Here, 178 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: we've had women in calling. We had Tammy and Montana, 179 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 1: the late Genie in Medford in the octagon. That was 180 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: one of the more famous ones. Pete and Pittsburgh versus 181 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: the World was was great. We had real talk who 182 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: was in an octagon back in the day. There's been 183 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: been many different versions of the Octagon, but We've never 184 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: had a blind on blind version, so I want to 185 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: make that happen. I'm thinking Monday into Tuesday or Tuesday 186 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: into Wednesday. That would be the perfect set up. Three rounds, 187 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: a knockdown, drag out steel cage deathmatch in the octagon. 188 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: So hopefully that will we'll take place down. Meanwhile, let's 189 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: get to the secret sauce, if you will, the Secret Sauce. 190 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: So this is another one of those things I've been 191 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: meaning to get to and I have not gotten to it. 192 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: A number of people have said, hey, the show that 193 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: you do is a lot different than many of the 194 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: other radio shows, which is which could be a compliment 195 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: at its best, which means as good as all the 196 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: rest or or could be a derogatory term at its worst, right, 197 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: So I guess it just depends how you want to 198 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: interpret it. So I am going to interpret it that 199 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: that is a compliment that if you've you've bothered to 200 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: send me a message via social media or email and said, hey, 201 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: I like you know X, Y and Z about the show, uh, 202 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: and it's different and why is it different? What makes 203 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: it different and all that stuff. So I've gotten a 204 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: few of those messages and I meant to get to it, 205 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: and we've had other things and so I have not 206 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: gotten to it. We certainly don't reinvent a wheel. And 207 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that what we do is any better 208 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: than anyone else. Everyone has their own desires and own 209 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: their their own taste and all that stuff. And people 210 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: full of hot air, right, We're all full of hot air. 211 00:12:55,960 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: We're all gas bags and blowhards with tremendous ounce of 212 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: verbosity on the radio show. But to give you the answer, 213 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: and I I used this in honor of Doc Mike. 214 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: We had actually considered putting Doc on this podcast Full Disclosure, 215 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: Doc Mike, uh, and he was unavailable because he was traveling. 216 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 1: And then I was like, well, maybe we'll put Blair 217 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: and Made on. In fact, we had booked Blair and 218 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 1: Maine for this podcast, and then Blair and Maine decided 219 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: to turn his phone off at the time we were 220 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: supposed to interview Blair made It's hard to interview a 221 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: guy when his phone is turned off, so that didn't happen. Um, 222 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: So anyway, we got to the point, so I said, 223 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: this is the time, said we have a little extra 224 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: time now on this Friday podcast. So let's get into it. 225 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: And in honor of Doc Mike, the keys to a 226 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: good sports talk radio show, or any radio show for 227 00:13:55,520 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: that matter, it's the P principles P E E. Now, 228 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: this is not to be confused with the kiss method. 229 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: Keep it simple stupid. That's the kiss method, which is 230 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: from the Navy, and I love that and I use 231 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: that quite a bit, and it's it's true, keep it 232 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: simple stupid. But this is the P principle in honor 233 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: of Doc Mike, a regular caller to the show, who 234 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: has pointed out many many times that he enjoys drinking 235 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: bodily fluids. And he is convinced, and and Doc has 236 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: has said this off the air as much as he 237 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: said it on the air, that he believes he will 238 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: live to be a very very old man. Doc's getting 239 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: up there in age now. When Doc called me, he 240 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: was in his mid mid mid age. Now he's getting 241 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: up there. But he swears, okay, Doc Mike swears that 242 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: he's gonna gonna live to be like a hundred ten 243 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: hundred fifteen or older than that because of because of urine. 244 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: But anyway, the P principle get to the point. Please, 245 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: the pre principle is passion. That's the p right. You 246 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: can't fake it, and that's a big part of the 247 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: secret sauce. If you have disinterests. I believe this is 248 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: true in anything in life. It just happens that my 249 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: chosen profession is radio or broadcasting in general. But if 250 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: you have disinterest, it will show in your work. And 251 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: that's true whether you're an athlete, playing in a game, 252 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: whether you're a truck driver, whether you're cleaning toilets, waiting tables, 253 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: working in an office. If you're disinterested, that will show. 254 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: People will know that you're disinterested, and that uncaring attitude 255 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: is toxic. It is absolutely toxic. So passion is a 256 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: big part of this. And I had a program director 257 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: that drilled this into me early in my career and 258 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: it's something that I it's very important lesson and it 259 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: oozes out. It literally oozes out on a regular basis. 260 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: But this programming out there, he pulled me aside. He said, listen, Uh, 261 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: it's very difficult to keep an audience. But there's one 262 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: thing that you can do is be authentic. Have have 263 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: the passion right. And he said he's listen. If you 264 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: have apathy and disregard for the things that you're talking about. 265 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: Why would a person listening I want to keep listening. 266 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: That is the biggest way to turn the dial or 267 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: to turn off a podcast and go somewhere else. That 268 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: is the click. And that's not the click you want. 269 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: That's not the click of approval. That's the click of 270 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go find something else. And it is true 271 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: right there now, there's there are droughts. I'm not gonna 272 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: sit here and lie and say that every single day 273 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: is wonderful. There are droughts when the sporting news is 274 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: not as sexy, it doesn't have the razmatazz, it's not 275 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: as exciting, but it's never barren. Now, I lived in 276 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: an era of sports radio where it was barren, and 277 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 1: that was back in the stone age, before social media, 278 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: before the Internet and all that stuff. And we're all 279 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: looking for content. We're all going down the same avenues, 280 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: the same highways and byways trying to find content. But 281 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: there was a time when people just depended on newspapers 282 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: and there was the AP, sports Wire and Sports Ticker, 283 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: and I worked at the mighty six ninety. I started 284 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: as an intern in San Diego and worked my way around, 285 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: and that was the Sahara Desert. That was as barren 286 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: like the Sahara Desert, uh and it was very difficult. 287 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: At times you had to wait praying there would be 288 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: some kind of ap breaking news message that would carry 289 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: you through the day. It's not like that. Now. There's 290 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: a whole lot of places to look. There's more places 291 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: to look than ever before. But there's there's good stories 292 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: out there. But again, that ties into passion. It ties 293 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: into passion. You gotta have the passion. If you have apathy, 294 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: you're done. You're done and again, and not for just sports, 295 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: but for anything else. The second thing, as the p 296 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 1: principles provided to you exclusively on the fifth Hour with 297 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: Ben Mallory, Enthusiasm. Now that might not mean what you 298 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: think that. To me, what that means is you have 299 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 1: something to say. It ties into the passion, right, passionate 300 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: enthusiasm pretty similar, But enthusiasm. I put that in the 301 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: category where you don't want to be on the fence. Okay, 302 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: you don't want to be on the fence that you're 303 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: not in Switzerland and you have the good cop and 304 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: the bad cop. You have the good guys and the 305 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: bad guys, and you don't want to be walking down 306 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: the middle of the road and just go through the 307 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: motions and you not not have an opinion. Now you 308 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: shouldn't fake an opinion. But if you don't have a 309 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: strong opinion about something, and I believe this to be true, 310 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: what are you doing? Like? It drives me crazy. I've 311 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: worked with people over the years and I'll bring something 312 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: up and I'm excited about it and they'll be I 313 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: don't occur, And that ties back into the pay passion apathy, right, 314 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: you don't want to have you don't want to have. 315 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: The apathy that is the destroyer of fun is apathy. 316 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: You don't wanna do that. So that always drives me nuts. 317 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: But it's enthusiasm, right, and genuinely have enthusiasm and don't 318 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: fake it. And also you gotta pay attention to detail 319 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Have a little bit of vim 320 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: and vigor uh with with your statements. I mean, that's 321 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: also all tied into enthusiasm. And the final part of 322 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: the pay principle of sports radio is in it tayment. 323 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: And this is the most important thing. And I don't 324 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: listen to a lot of sports talk radio because I 325 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: work in the business. I listen to a little bit. 326 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: And I hear a lot of people that are more 327 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: worried about getting stats in and being the smartest person 328 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: in the room, and they put entertainment as a secondary thing. 329 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: And that is a huge mistake, a huge mistake, and 330 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: it ties back to the the times we're in right now, 331 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: right And as as much as I said you can 332 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: get all kinds of status you want on the internet 333 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: and all that stuff, it is true. Uh, And if 334 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: you're going to tune in, whether it's this podcast or 335 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: the radio show or just any kind of audio program 336 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: or for that matter, of television, you are giving away 337 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: the most valuable thing you have. The most valuable thing 338 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: you have. We say it all the time is your time. 339 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: You don't know how much of it you have, you 340 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: don't know when it's gonna end, and there's a finite 341 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: amount of it. So for you to give some of 342 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: your listenership, some of your time for a program, you 343 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: gotta be entertained. Right, Well, what's the point of doing it? 344 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: You you got the daily grind, the nine to five, 345 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: the the rat race, and so you want to be 346 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: part of something and and spend a little bit of time, 347 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,479 Speaker 1: a little bit of time where you're just you're enjoying yourself. 348 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 1: And if you can combine those two things, which I'm 349 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: not saying that we do, but if while you're working 350 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: with a lot of truck drivers that listen to the show, 351 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: that are going all over right from sea to Shining 352 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: Sea and beyond, and I always love when they I'll 353 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: get a message from a truck driver and be like, hey, 354 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: you know, I listen to show and it helps me 355 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: get through four hours of my horrifically terrible drive going 356 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 1: from Kalamazoo to tim Buck two and it's you know, 357 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: terrible and all the stuff. So that that is pretty cool. 358 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: I do appreciate that. Uh. Now, the mail bag is 359 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: on Sunday, as we press on here on the fifth hour, 360 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: so the mail bag is on Sunday. But I did 361 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: have one message that cannot wait for the mail bag, 362 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: so let's get into it. Let's jump into this a 363 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 1: little bit early. Dan who lives in southern California. Now 364 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: he says he lives in Westwood, which is a very 365 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: bougie neighborhood. If you're not familiar with geography in California, 366 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: that is where you see l A is located. I 367 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: think you could probably know that if you're a sports person, 368 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: because or you should know that rather because the Wizard 369 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: of Westwood, John Wooden, and with that is the actrop. 370 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: Dan wrote in. This is actually um about ten days ago, 371 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: and I didn't get to it last week, so I'll 372 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: get to it here before I forget. So Dan wrote in, 373 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: and he was ripping my obsession with the Code of 374 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: the West. Now this is another one of those things, 375 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: another one of my michigas, as my late grandfather would say, 376 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: where I will reference the Code of the West on 377 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: a regular basis, and I think it's an important thing 378 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: and it's it's something I model my life after many 379 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: of the the laws, if you will, of the Code 380 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: of the West. And I look into that. And so anyway, 381 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: Dan in Westwood, he wrote in and he said that 382 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: I the Code of the West is nice, but John 383 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: Wooden's seven point Creed is better, and that I should 384 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: credit wouldn't because what Wooden did was better than the 385 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: Code of the West and all that stuff, and I 386 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: should talk talk more about John Wooden's seven point Creed. No, 387 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: I wouldn't passed away. A number years ago, I was 388 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: lucky enough to have Wooden as a guest on the 389 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: radio and very cool. And I love the stories about 390 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: John Wooden. The last couple of years of his life. 391 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: He lived right near the Fox Sports Radio studios and 392 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: the Sherman Sherman Oaks neighborhood of of l A. And 393 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: he lived up in the hill and he come down 394 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: and eat. And I heard from multiple people around Fox 395 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: Sports Radio that they'd run into John Wooden, greatest college 396 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: basketball coach of all time, and Wooden would be eating 397 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: like fried chicken or a cheeseburger and fries, and and 398 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: they're like, well, I can't believe he's doing that. He's 399 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: like nineties something years old and here he is eating 400 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 1: the most unhealthy diet. And I love that because when 401 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: you get you get to a certain age, you don't 402 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: have to worry about the long game anymore. When you 403 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: get closer to the pearly gates, you no longer have 404 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: to worry about, Hey, is this gonna hit me in 405 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: ten years or fifteen years or twenty years, Am I 406 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: gonna be Okay? No, you don't worry about that, So 407 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 1: I John wouldn't live that anyone. Get back to the story. 408 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Dan, I gotta carry away there anyway, So 409 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: Dan again points out that John Wooden seven point Creed 410 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: throughout the lengthy Here, I'm gonna give you some of 411 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: the the cliff notes Virgin here the seven point Creed 412 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: is better than the Code of the West, and he 413 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: wants me to use on the show. Blah blah blah 414 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. 415 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 1: All right, So I will engage you, Dan, and you're 416 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: listening to the fifth hour. So I have dug up 417 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:36,479 Speaker 1: the the John Wooden John Wooden's seven point Creed, and 418 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: I also have, of course the Code of the West. 419 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: And then we'll do a side and by side comparison. 420 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: Now I admit going in, I'm biased. I am biased. 421 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: I've heard of the John Wooden seven point Creed. But 422 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: the Code of the West resonated with me. It resonated 423 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: with me more I I attached myself to it as 424 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: the pearls of wisdom UH in life. But I'll give 425 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: you the John Wooden seven point Creed first, and then 426 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: we'll give you the Code of the West. So the 427 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: seven point Creed from John Wooden, UH number number seven 428 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: is pray for guidance and count and give thanks for 429 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: your blessings every day, would be grateful. That's essentially what 430 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: he's saying with number seven. Number six was build a 431 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: shelter against a rainy day. You also had to make 432 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: friendship a fine art. Drink deeply from good books, especially 433 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: the Bible. So a lot of religious undertones or overtones, 434 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 1: depending how you look at it. Make each day your masterpiece. Now, 435 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: that is the most famous of the seven point creed 436 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: of John Wooden, that is the one that has had legs. 437 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: Make each day your masterpiece. Uh. There's also help others 438 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 1: and the final part of John Wooden's seven point creeds 439 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: be true to yourself. Now, make each day your masterpieces 440 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: great hell paying others, Yeah, you should help others, be 441 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: true to yourself. Those are all good things. Good books, 442 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: you know. That's that's great. And he mentioned the Bible 443 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 1: here and all. I have nothing against all of that. 444 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: But the Code of the West, for Dan and Westwood, 445 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: the Code of the West blows the doors off the 446 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: seven point creed. Right. I'll give you some of the 447 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: the tenants of the Code of the West. It's no 448 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: when to draw the line, No when to draw the line? 449 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: Is that not an important thing in life to know 450 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: when to draw the line. I say yes, I say 451 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: yes on that, remember that some things aren't for sale. Yeah. Otherwise, 452 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: don't whore yourself out right that you don't. You don't 453 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: have to whore yourself out for everything in life, in business, 454 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: you gotta have pride. There's there's there has to be 455 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 1: some kind of limit, is what I'm trying to say. Now, 456 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: there's also this part of the Code of the talk 457 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: less and say more, which is a version of what 458 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: I learned at my Heart University. When in doubt, keep 459 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: it out. When in doubt, keep it out. But essentially, 460 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: less is more ride for the brand. Now, what does 461 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: that one mean? Does that mean the family? Does that 462 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 1: mean who you work for? Does that mean all of 463 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: the above? Also on the Code of the West, when 464 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: you make a promise, keep it And that's important. You 465 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: want to be a person that is reliable, dependable, and 466 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: all that stuff. Also, be tough but fair. Be tough 467 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: but fair. That's an important one. Also, you don't want 468 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: to be the carpet that people walk all over, right, 469 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: But you also don't want to be a hard oh 470 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: that everyone hates. And as soon as you leave the room, 471 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: they're like, what an asshole that particular person was. Holy crap, 472 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: So be tough but fair. What's not to like about that? Uh. 473 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: Here's one I use all the time. It's a very 474 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: important one on the code of the West. Do what 475 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: has to be done, do what happens, what has to 476 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: be done. And to me, that means it's not always 477 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: gonna be beautiful. It's not always gonna be pretty, it's 478 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: not gonna be great, but you gotta do it right, 479 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: you gotta do it, do what has to be done. 480 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: There's also always finish what you start. That's an important 481 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: one and it ties back to don't cut corners. You 482 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: should not cut corners. That's a bad job by you 483 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: don't do it. Uh. And so that's important. And don't 484 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: give up. Finish if you start something, whatever it is, 485 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: whether it's a radio show or a project around the 486 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: house at d I Y do it yourself project, finish 487 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: what you start. Uh. There's also take pride in your work, 488 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,479 Speaker 1: which is another important one. If you're gonna put your 489 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: name on it and put your blood, sweat, in tears 490 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: into something, then you should take pride in it. You 491 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: should absolutely take pride in it. And if you don't, 492 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: that's a bad job by you. And then the the 493 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: final tenant of the good Book, the Code of the 494 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: West is to live each day with courage, and that's 495 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: important too. Uh do what has to be done is 496 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: to me the most important finish what you start, which 497 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: is the same. It's kind of one in one of 498 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: the same on that, but but many of those are 499 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: again just to recap Dan, we did decide by side 500 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: comparison as I expected. As I expected, the Code of 501 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: the West wins the day. The Code of the West 502 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: wins the day. Anyway, we're gonna put the baby to bed. 503 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: It's a holiday weekend. We will have a more original 504 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: audio content if you have the podcast now before I forget. 505 00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: If you would like a personalized mini Mallard analogue, I 506 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: can do that for you. On Cameo, I haven't promoted 507 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: Cameo in a while. Every once in a while somebody 508 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: will said, hey, I'm I I'm a fan of the show. 509 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: I want a cameo. And if you got a birthday 510 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: coming up, if you're you know somebody who's a fan 511 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: of the show and you think they would appreciate it, uh, 512 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: we would love to do it for you. It's a 513 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: personalized video message. I typically try to do these things 514 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: in Mallard monologue style. Uh. So you you gotta give 515 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: me a little bit to work with, but we will 516 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: do it for It's not free, doesn't cost that much. 517 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: I haven't raised my rate uh in a long time, 518 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: so it's been pretty pretty consistent. I raised my rate 519 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: one time because Cameo took more money out of it. So, uh, 520 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: it's nothing I'm gonna get rich on anything like that. 521 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: But you can't send us a request on Cameo would 522 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: love to help you out. Also, don't forget Instagram, Ben 523 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: Maller on Fox. You can check out some photographs and 524 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: other random things on Instagram. The Facebook page, that's what 525 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: we use a lot for this podcast. The many of 526 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: the emails that we get, most of them come from 527 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: the Facebook page that are posted on the show Facebook page, 528 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: which again is Ben Mallard Show. And every Tuesday, typically 529 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: early in the day, I will send out a request 530 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,959 Speaker 1: and say, hey, wow, how don't you send me questions? 531 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: We need to fill up a mailbag, and inevitably we 532 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: will get a number of questions. And now people have 533 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: been emailing the fifth Hour email address. The Fifth Hour 534 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: email address if you have not written that down, it's 535 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: real Fifth Hour at gmail dot com. That is exclusive 536 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: for this podcast. So if you have a question, you 537 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: don't have to wait until Tuesday. Much like the lame 538 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: jokes that we do on the radio show, if something 539 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: pops into your head on today, like today's today's a Friday, 540 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: and if something pops just send it or Saturday or 541 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: Sunday and we'll use it possibly for the next next podcast. 542 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: Can't guarantee it. Get a lot of email. We try 543 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: to go through as many of them as we can. 544 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: We do have some time restraints. Typically the person I 545 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: do the podcast with is demanding two uh to wrap 546 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: it up, or has some other podcasts which he thinks 547 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: is more important that he needs to work on. So 548 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: but on this podcast, uh, you know, we we try 549 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: to get as many as we can, but there are 550 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: time shows. Anyway, we'll put the baby to bed. Have 551 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: a wonderful, glorious rest of your Saturday. We hope you 552 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: enjoyed the podcast. Here the p Principles in honor of 553 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: Doc Mike and slaying John Wooden's seven point Create Compared 554 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: to the Code of the West and all the other 555 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: things that we got to We'll catch you on the 556 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: Saturday edition of the Fifth Hour. Aloha