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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast Walking Back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We rolled

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Speaker 1: through the Thursday edition of the program. We've been talking

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Speaker 1: about Alex Murdoch, who is testifying in his own defense

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Speaker 1: as we speak in South Carolina in a case that

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Speaker 1: has captivated the attention of many. That is a small town,

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Speaker 1: relatively relatively in the global scheme of things, small story,

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Speaker 1: I would argue, the biggest story that is going on

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Speaker 1: right now from a geopolitical perspective is this question of

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Speaker 1: what is going to happen in China, In particular, is

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Speaker 1: there going to be an attempt to invade Taiwan? And

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Speaker 1: what do we make of China's newfound relationship with Russia

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Speaker 1: and how it might implicate things. There is a report

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Speaker 1: out there that we are going to quadruple our military

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Speaker 1: spending on behalf of Taiwan at the same time that

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Speaker 1: we are spending billions of dollars on behalf of Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: What does this all mean? We're joined now by Steve Yate,

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Speaker 1: Senior Fellow at the America First Policy Institute, host of

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Speaker 1: the China Desk podcast. You can find Steve at America

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Speaker 1: First Policy dot com and his podcast is at the

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Speaker 1: Federal Newswire dot com. Steve, I'm sure you saw the

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Speaker 1: story and we talked about it on this program about

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Speaker 1: the American general who said, I believe by twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 1: he believed that that China would invade Taiwan and we

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Speaker 1: would have to make a decision about what exactly we're

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Speaker 1: going to do in the event that occurs. Do you

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Speaker 1: believe that's going to happen? What do you make of

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Speaker 1: our increased expenditures on military material for Taiwan, And where

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Speaker 1: are we in that relationship in that context of Taiwan

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Speaker 1: and China in your mind right now? Well, thank you, Clay. Well,

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Speaker 1: this is a challenge that has vexed us for a

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Speaker 1: long time. We do now have an increased number of

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Speaker 1: military officials at a senior level speaking out publicly about it.

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Speaker 1: They used to fret about it internally, and our intelligence

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Speaker 1: services and our diplomats always seem to underestimate the timeline

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Speaker 1: on which China was prepared to act against US or

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Speaker 1: against Taiwan. Now it seems like the conventional wisdom has

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Speaker 1: crept up into being at potentially real time, and we

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Speaker 1: are behind the curve on making sure we've enhanced to

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Speaker 1: terrence in the Asia Pacific. We've allowed a lot of

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Speaker 1: material to be reallocated to the Middle East for a

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Speaker 1: long time for different kinds of missions. The Ukraine conflict

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Speaker 1: has drained a lot of material. One can argue whether

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Speaker 1: that's good or bad, but it can't argue away the

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Speaker 1: impact it has on what's available for other contingencies. And

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Speaker 1: of course President Biden I think, has been on a

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Speaker 1: trail of provocative weakness, and that I think is a

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Speaker 1: very unsettling message to an aggressive provocateur like hitting being

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Speaker 1: of China. The latest episode being the balloon transitting in

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Speaker 1: the weak response. So not a happy picture. But at

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Speaker 1: least when we're talking about armaments going to Taiwan, they

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Speaker 1: pay for them, unlike a lot of other countries where

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Speaker 1: we give them away. But we're behind the curve and

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Speaker 1: allowing them to acquire what they really need to deter

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Speaker 1: China and defend themselves with or without our intervention. Hey, Steve,

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Speaker 1: it's buck. Let's drill in on that point for a second.

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Speaker 1: What does Taiwan really need in order to raise the

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Speaker 1: costs of a Chinese invasion enough to deter it. And

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Speaker 1: what can we do or should we do to fill

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Speaker 1: that gap? Well, first, they need the ability to inflict

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Speaker 1: pain on China itself in a meaningful way. I mean buck,

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Speaker 1: you know as well as anyone. I mean deterrence to exist,

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Speaker 1: someone has to have a credible belief that they're going

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Speaker 1: to lose something that matters to them. So, whether that's

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Speaker 1: their power grid, potentially going down, a massive cyber attack,

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Speaker 1: having the most advanced fighter jets instead of selling decades

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Speaker 1: these things were under this rubric of strategic ambiguity and

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Speaker 1: avoiding offensive air quoted capabilities. So we have put Taiwan

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Speaker 1: somewhat in this strait jacket for a generation, and we

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Speaker 1: need to get out of that if we don't want

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Speaker 1: intervening on their behalf. What do you make of this

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Speaker 1: Is this just a function of they recognize that they're

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Speaker 1: around the world. What happens with that trio in their relationship. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's a similar dilemma we always have. If we have

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Speaker 1: reliable and good leadership in the United States, this is

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Speaker 1: much less of a challenge most of the world, even

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Speaker 1: the fence thatters will want to hedge their bets and

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Speaker 1: this condominium at best is a do no gooder condominium

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Speaker 1: to avoid sanctions and to proliferate dangerous technologies and impose

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Speaker 1: penalties and other kinds of pain on those who seek

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Speaker 1: freedom or to go about their business, etc. But at

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Speaker 1: the worst, it is a condominium in which United States

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Speaker 1: to shape other country's behavior, and so I think it's troubling.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say we're at a clear cold war of

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Speaker 1: the free world versus this Beijing, Moscow, Tehran silo, but

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Speaker 1: it's going in that direction, and we're not doing a

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Speaker 1: lot of good to show that we've got the will

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Speaker 1: and capability to lure the others on to say bet

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Speaker 1: on us, not on them. Speaking of Steve Yates, he

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Speaker 1: is the host of the China Desk podcast and a

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Speaker 1: senior fellow at America First Policy Institute. Steve, how would

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Speaker 1: But is she worried about internal threats? Is he concerned

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Speaker 1: decision making visa VI Taiwan. Absolutely, Buck, they do face

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Speaker 1: a lot of challenges internally, economic demographic, their radical COVID

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Speaker 1: policies had a massive impact. Plus, this wolf warrior mentality

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Speaker 1: a lot of reasons for a rational leader in China

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Speaker 1: complete control of the security state. And if we are

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Speaker 1: imagine that a thousand times more developed with no civil

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you've seen some of the war games that

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Speaker 1: likely to happen. We know we've spent one hundred billion

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Speaker 1: pit in Ukraine. What do you think Joe Biden would

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Speaker 1: the night China has begun the invasion of Taiwan. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's a terrifying scenario to me, to be honest, because,

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Speaker 1: which just makes it very murky for any American much

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Speaker 1: and make it clear that they pay a dear price,

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Speaker 1: end of the economic relationship. There would be significant comprehensive

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Speaker 1: than any president's been willing to talk or prepare since

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Speaker 1: the Nixon Kissinger bargain. What is the Biden administration doing

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Speaker 1: US China policy now that we're two years in. Well,

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Speaker 1: and certainly is buck laid out. The COVID zero collapse

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Speaker 1: has certainly undercut Chinese legitimacy as well. Does China's beginning

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Speaker 1: it pertains to Taiwan because a decade from now they

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Speaker 1: In other words, could they invade out of weakness as

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Speaker 1: opposed to strength. Well, the scenario you outline just now, Clay,

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Speaker 1: because I do think it's declining weakened China or a

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Speaker 1: another decade time for Taiwan, Japan, the United States and

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Speaker 1: say twenty twenty five, that is very, very troubling. We'll

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Speaker 1: go through the exercise of a presidential election. You think

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Speaker 1: no American would want to show any weakness through that,

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Speaker 1: but they might see that as just a moment of

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Speaker 1: the China Desk podcast. He's at the America First Policy Institute. Steven.

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Speaker 1: just a quick bit of breaking news. Karen Jean Pierre

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Speaker 1: Mayor Pete Buddha Judge, the Transportation Secretary, who so far

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Speaker 1: has contributed to this disaster by just letting everybody know, well,

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Speaker 1: big deal of the people of East Palestine. And President

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Speaker 1: were certainly very pleased to see him and appreciated the support,

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Speaker 1: the show of solidarity with all of them. Another new

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Speaker 1: story that is continuing to unfold, and I know we

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Speaker 1: have a lot of people listening in the Saint Louis area.

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Speaker 1: The Circuit Attorney Kimberly guard Gardner. She is gonna be

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Speaker 1: stepping down, it seems from her her role as the

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Speaker 1: top prosecutor in St. Saint Louis. You have the Missouri

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Speaker 1: Attorney General, Andrew Bailey has announced that. There's also some

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Speaker 1: reporting that the prosecutor has set her own press conference.

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Speaker 1: She could be resigning, which is what is likely happening.

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Speaker 1: But oh, I think she's gonna fight it. Buck. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say she could say, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: bend to these demands. I'm not going to step down.

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Speaker 1: So but let's let's get into into into what happened here. Um, actually,

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Speaker 1: you know, Clay, you brought the story to my attention

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Speaker 1: for so lay out look. Saint Louis, as we have

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Speaker 1: talked about before, unfortunately has one of the highest violent

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Speaker 1: crime rates in the United States per capita, one of

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Speaker 1: the some of the most murders per capita of any

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Speaker 1: American city. It's usually, unfortunately in the top five, even

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Speaker 1: in the top three. There is a case though, of

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Speaker 1: a woman who welped Clay tell everybody why this is

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Speaker 1: getting so much attention right now? Yeah, look, this is

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Speaker 1: a basic disaster Saint Louis. First of all, this is

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Speaker 1: not only a Saint Louis story. I think we need

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Speaker 1: to hammer this home because I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: people are experiencing it all over the country. There are

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Speaker 1: even in red states, and Missouri is clearly now a

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Speaker 1: red state. Blue cities and Democrats are trying to muddy

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Speaker 1: the waters, and they say, oh, these red states have

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Speaker 1: really high rates of crime. Well that's not really true, right.

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Speaker 1: Much of the crime, for instance, in my red state

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Speaker 1: of Tennessee is in Shelby County where Memphis is, which

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Speaker 1: is overwhelmingly blue, and so there's a lot of political

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Speaker 1: tension over the desire to fight crime that is not

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Speaker 1: actually leading to any sort of success. So this is

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Speaker 1: what was the precipitating fact or in Saint Louis and

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Speaker 1: their stories like this everywhere. There was a sixteen year

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Speaker 1: old girl, her name is Janey Edmondson. She was in

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Speaker 1: Saint Louis to play in a volleyball tournament. She was

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Speaker 1: a really talented women's volleyball player, was going to be

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Speaker 1: able evidently to play in college. And she was hit

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Speaker 1: by a twenty one year old criminal who should have

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Speaker 1: never been on the streets at all, speeding through an

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Speaker 1: intersection and the hit was so violent buck that they

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Speaker 1: had to they had to take both of her legs.

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Speaker 1: They amputated legs, yes, both of her legs, so she

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Speaker 1: has She is a Tennessee high school girl. And this

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Speaker 1: story was the driver, Daniel Riley, violated the terms of

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Speaker 1: his bond at least seven times since February first, many

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Speaker 1: times before that. Should have never been on the street,

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Speaker 1: should have never ever been driving this vehicle. And this

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Speaker 1: was for many people out there, a last draw moment,

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Speaker 1: a precipitating factor. We can no longer allow this to happen.

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Speaker 1: And so the Missouri Attorney General came out and said,

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Speaker 1: you are not enforcing the law, you were not putting

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Speaker 1: criminals behind bars. We have got to end this reign

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Speaker 1: of terror in Saint Louis. And that is where the

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Speaker 1: tension has been set. And the prosecutor Gardner in St. Louis,

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Speaker 1: just so every who knows is a progressive prosecutor, yes,

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Speaker 1: I would bet that there is. There has been sorrows

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Speaker 1: money to help her get elected in the past. And

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Speaker 1: this is what you've had at all of these cities,

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Speaker 1: a shift in the mindset of the people who are

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Speaker 1: supposed to be enforcing the law that you don't really

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Speaker 1: have to enforce the law because the law is having

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Speaker 1: a disparate impact on minority communities. Therefore, the best way

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Speaker 1: to deal with this is to just stop really enforcing

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Speaker 1: the law wherever you can, to give the bare minimum

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Speaker 1: punishment to let people go. You know, there's so many

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Speaker 1: ways that the system can effectively be sabotaged. The criminal

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Speaker 1: justice system can be sabotaged. It can be at the

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Speaker 1: police officer level. By making sure that cops don't have

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Speaker 1: the resources, don't have the personnel, and don't have the

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Speaker 1: political backing to effectively do their jobs right, that will

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Speaker 1: increase crime. And that's a decision made at city hall.

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Speaker 1: That's a political decision. It can also be made at

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Speaker 1: the district attorney level, at the prosecutor level, how long

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Speaker 1: do you hold people? Did you decide that you're going

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Speaker 1: to let a whole slew of crimes just go entirely

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Speaker 1: unpunished by making some declaration under an expansive view of

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Speaker 1: prosecutorial discretion that say, nothing under nine hundred dollars as

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Speaker 1: a theft will even be prosecuted, which is what they

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Speaker 1: did in San Francisco for example. So perty crime in

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Speaker 1: San Francisco skyrockets. There is a mentality on the left

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Speaker 1: and people need to be aware of this that even

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Speaker 1: with very high rising crime, this is the price we

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Speaker 1: pay for a more equitable society. There are people on

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Speaker 1: the left, they're Democrats who suggest if the alternative is

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Speaker 1: enforcing the law more and that is going to have

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Speaker 1: a disparate impact on the African American community in these cities,

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Speaker 1: then this continues because that is a preferable situation to

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Speaker 1: the disparate impact that it would have, and that's what

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Speaker 1: you see with these they're open. By the way, the

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Speaker 1: progressive prosecutors will say this. They will tell you that

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Speaker 1: the criminal justice system is racist and therefore this is

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Speaker 1: how we combat that racism. And unfortunately, stories like these

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Speaker 1: keep happening, and overwhelmingly the people who are victims when

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Speaker 1: this equity agenda is applied are black and Hispanic inner

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Speaker 1: city residents, which is why this is such an awful

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Speaker 1: decision in general and all facets, but in particular, in

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Speaker 1: the name of equity and treating criminals far more fairly

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Speaker 1: than they deserve, you are ending up creating all sorts

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Speaker 1: of new innocent victims. And this teenage how incredibly difficult

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Speaker 1: it is to recover emotionally and physically oftentimes from these

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Speaker 1: acts of violence. But what you are seeing almost every

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Speaker 1: time happen now is the people committing these crimes should

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Speaker 1: have never been on the streets. And that is I

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Speaker 1: think for many people out there. You got a sixteen

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Speaker 1: year old girl trying to cross the street in Saint

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Speaker 1: Louis who's a volleyball player, and this guy who should

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Speaker 1: never have been on the street in the first place,

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Speaker 1: mows her down and has to get her legs amputated

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Speaker 1: at sixteen years old. It's just it's a crystallizing moment

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Speaker 1: recognizing the excess. Now my fearbuck is that she's going

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Speaker 1: to follow a lawsuit and say you don't have the

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Speaker 1: power to remove me from office, and so that's what

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Speaker 1: I bet her press conference is about. It does seem

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Speaker 1: to me that she's likely if I had the place,

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Speaker 1: a bet she's calling a press conference to fight it,

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Speaker 1: not to say I'm stepping down, because there's not much

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Speaker 1: benefit for her to have a whole press conference where

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Speaker 1: she says, yeah, I'm bad at my job, I'm resigning

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Speaker 1: that That seems unlikely to me, unless she maybe tries

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Speaker 1: to spin it a little bit with well, I'll step down,

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Speaker 1: but here's my explanation as to why I actually did

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Speaker 1: a good job. You'll notice, though, if the prosecutor in

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Speaker 1: a city like Saint Louis that has had such a

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Speaker 1: not just a high violent crime rate, but a big

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Speaker 1: spike in the crime rate over the last three years,

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Speaker 1: if the prosecutor takes no responsibility, who is responsible? YEA,

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Speaker 1: Is it possible for anybody to be held accountable for

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Speaker 1: these kinds of things. You would think that somebody who

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Speaker 1: has presided over a deteriorating and increasingly violent city and

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Speaker 1: has situations like this where there is a dropping of

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Speaker 1: the ball, and I think that's the part of it.

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Speaker 1: I know this is true in New York and in

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Speaker 1: other major cities. What really enrages people, You know, when

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Speaker 1: somebody snaps, when somebody commits the first crime, and it's

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Speaker 1: a very violent crime, I hainous crime. It's awful, but

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Speaker 1: it's a lot harder for this system to do anything

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Speaker 1: about that. This is why they'll say, oh, this person,

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Speaker 1: I know, this person had no prior record at all. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you don't. Really, that's not the stories that we're seeing.

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Speaker 1: That happened, obviously, but that's not the stories that we're seeing.

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Speaker 1: What we keep seeing is this person was arrested fifteen times,

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Speaker 1: fifty times, a hundred times, and at various stages in

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Speaker 1: that criminal justice process, whether it was whether they bring

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Speaker 1: the charges, the Bureau of Prisons system and how they're

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Speaker 1: handling it, or it was let's go easy, let's give

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Speaker 1: another chance, let's give a fifteenth chance, let's drop the

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Speaker 1: charges down. All of these decisions have consequences, and we've

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Speaker 1: seen those consequences and they are awful, and they result

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Speaker 1: in things like this, this case that, as you pointed out,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this young girl has lost her legs. It's

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Speaker 1: a gut punch to the whole community to it, it's

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Speaker 1: shattering to her family and the whole country. When they

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Speaker 1: see this, they say, what else has to be done

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Speaker 1: for the authorities to realize that public safety means that

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Speaker 1: people that do stupid, illegal things need to actually be

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Speaker 1: punished in a serious way. No, and we'll come back.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about this situation down in Florida that also

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00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: ties in with what's happening. The point here is no

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Speaker 1: matter where you live, whatever city you are closest to,

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00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: has a story unfortunately like this, where a violent predator

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Speaker 1: of a criminal who should have been behind bars is

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Speaker 1: out on the streets in the name of equity and

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Speaker 1: fairness and Justice Act or whatever you want to say,

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Speaker 1: reigning rampant. Unfortunately. I think one of the things play

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Speaker 1: that's so it's so enraging to a lot of people

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Speaker 1: about this is that the American people overall are a

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Speaker 1: kind and merciful people, and we do want people to

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Speaker 1: have second chances. We do want, you know, we do

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Speaker 1: have a sense that there's an injustice if somebody, you know,

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Speaker 1: is a first time non violent drug offender and gets many,

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Speaker 1: many years in prison. But that's actually not what the

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Speaker 1: reality is nationwide of the prison system. And so the

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Speaker 1: desire of the American people to be fair minded, merciful

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Speaker 1: and to give people second chances has been completely abused

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Speaker 1: by these progressive left wing lunatics. So that the door

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Speaker 1: was open a little bit to be a you know,

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Speaker 1: to have slightly less you know whatever, severe punishment, long sentences,

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Speaker 1: Thursday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 1: begins right now. Everybody all across this great land, thank

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Speaker 1: you for tuning in. Got a lot on the plate today,

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Speaker 1: a lot to get through on our plate and Buck

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Speaker 1: docket right now. Many people are just riveted by this

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Speaker 1: unusual legal circumstance of a criminal murder defendant on the stand.

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Speaker 1: This is in the Murdo murder trial about this family,

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Speaker 1: wealthy lawyer, his son and wife, one of his sons

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Speaker 1: and wife killed. There had been previously a young girl

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Speaker 1: who was killed on the not related killed not related

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Speaker 1: to them, on the family boat. There's there's backstory here

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Speaker 1: of ruination of the family finances, of opioid addiction, and

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Speaker 1: now the allegation, the primary allegation. Oh, also eleven million

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Speaker 1: dollars of theft has been alleged. But Murdoch, the father

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Speaker 1: of this family, um is of the Murdoch family. He

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Speaker 1: is on the stand right now and he is being

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Speaker 1: asked about the States allegation that he murdered at the

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Speaker 1: family hunting Kennel's his wife and his younger son. So

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Speaker 1: will if there's any breaking news from this during the

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Speaker 1: course of the show, we will will bring it to you.

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Speaker 1: And also Clay may want to dive into some legal

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Speaker 1: analysis of that. In just a few moments. We've also

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Speaker 1: got a whole range of things. Who addressed the speaking

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Speaker 1: of in the legal realm that grand jury, four person

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Speaker 1: set of four men, as we know. Gotta say for

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Speaker 1: a person who was giving those interviews, Clay mentioned yesterday

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Speaker 1: that she is either a witch or a Wiccan. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if there's no offense to the Wiccan community.

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Speaker 1: I don't really know what the difference maybe, and she's

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Speaker 1: causing problems. They're starting to say, hold on a second,

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Speaker 1: meaning the Left is saying this woman may be causing

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Speaker 1: issues for the possible indictment of Trump that may be

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Speaker 1: coming down. So we'll certainly discuss that the US has

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Speaker 1: increased its quiet but not covert troop presence in Taiwan,

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Speaker 1: going from a few dozen to a couple of hundred

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Speaker 1: to help make the cost of a Chinese invasion of

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Speaker 1: that island. Hire. We've got our friends Stephen Yates, who

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Speaker 1: was in the Bush administration, a fluent Mandarin speaker, knows

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Speaker 1: the Chinese area of operations very well. He'll be with

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Speaker 1: us in the second hour of the program. And then

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Speaker 1: also a couple of other stories, national level crime stories

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Speaker 1: that I want to get to, but we'll put a

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Speaker 1: pin in that for a moment. Clay, when you see

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Speaker 1: this situation, You've got a father here on trial for

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Speaker 1: a double murder of his own wife and second son.

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Speaker 1: This is not something you generally see. We have not

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Speaker 1: obviously been able to watch the cross examination yet, but

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Speaker 1: I know enough just just from watching Law and Order.

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Speaker 1: You're always told, first of all, a well advised defendant

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Speaker 1: will not take the stand. Second of all, this is

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Speaker 1: highly risky. Yeah, look, this story has really gripped much

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Speaker 1: of the nation's attention. And if you haven't been paying

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Speaker 1: attention to it, the fact that Fox News is basically

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Speaker 1: going without commercial break during his testimony. And again, the

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Speaker 1: defense is questioning him right now, his own attorneys are

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Speaker 1: questioning him on the witness stand, and then I would

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Speaker 1: think we will have what may very well be an

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Speaker 1: explosive cross examination. And I've read a lot about this

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Speaker 1: case because it's South Carolina backcountry. The guy's name is

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Speaker 1: it looks like it should be pronounced Murdoch, it's actually

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Speaker 1: pronounced Murdoch, and his family for three generations has been

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Speaker 1: essentially the legal force, prosecuting attorneys and whatnot in this

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Speaker 1: entire region of South Carolina, which is very rural, very poor,

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Speaker 1: and is not very connected in a general sense to

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Speaker 1: the outside world. And this story has captivated many people,

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Speaker 1: not only in the United States, but but around the globe.

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Speaker 1: And to your point, you almost never see a defendant

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Speaker 1: in a murder trial take to witness stand. Now, this

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Speaker 1: guy is and has been in his career, a very

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Speaker 1: skilled attorney. He's probably spent a lot of time in

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Speaker 1: courtrooms in his life. He has been bawling, breaking down

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Speaker 1: in tears during much of this testimony that is focused

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Speaker 1: on the details surrounding when he found the bodies of

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Speaker 1: his wife and his son, and his own elder son

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Speaker 1: has testified on his behalf. But the evidence is obviously

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Speaker 1: very damning. One thing they haven't really been able to

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Speaker 1: point out Buck is why did he do it? I

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Speaker 1: was gonna ask you what the motive is here? You've

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Speaker 1: been following this trial more closely than I have. But

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Speaker 1: the part just from I've been reading about it, I

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Speaker 1: haven't been somebody who's been following watching the live, the

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Speaker 1: live shots from the courtroom the way that many's many

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Speaker 1: across the Countrymen, Fox is going with a live right now.

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Speaker 1: Uh so he is effectively bankrupt, that's what he This is.

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Speaker 1: This is all part of the claim that he's he's

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Speaker 1: run out of money. Um. He has an opioid addiction,

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Speaker 1: which he has admitted to. He says he lied to

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Speaker 1: police about where he was the night of the murder,

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Speaker 1: which I've always this, this comes from the god. The

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Speaker 1: detectives I work at the NYPD, they just say look

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Speaker 1: for the lie the moment someone's lying to you, there's

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Speaker 1: a reason. So that's obviously not favorable for Alex Murdoch's

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Speaker 1: um You know, for Alex Murdock in front of this

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Speaker 1: jury that he's admitted to lying to police about where

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Speaker 1: he was the knight of the murder, but killing his

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Speaker 1: wife and son is there unless there's a major insurance

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Speaker 1: policy or something, it's not. It doesn't seem like motive

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Speaker 1: is clear, which I think would be a problem. That

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Speaker 1: obviously that's what the defense is trying to present to

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Speaker 1: the jury, and that seems to be one of their

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Speaker 1: primary um points in his favors, that there's it doesn't

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Speaker 1: seem to be clear motive. Every case, both the prosecution

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Speaker 1: and the defense have a theory of the case that

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Speaker 1: is something that you believe is the undergirding foundation upon

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Speaker 1: which you are basing the argument, which is really just

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Speaker 1: a story that you are presenting to the jury. And

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Speaker 1: it's not only by the way this Murdoch also was

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Speaker 1: caught staging a fake suicide attempt or a fake murder attempt,

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Speaker 1: I should say. He supposedly hired his cousin to try

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Speaker 1: to kill him and then claim that he had that

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Speaker 1: the attempt had failed and he called the police. And

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Speaker 1: I mean, this has been a total cluster. And the

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Speaker 1: one thing that has not necessarily tied together perfectly, Buck

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Speaker 1: and you hit on it is the motive his life

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Speaker 1: was falling apart. And it seems to be the prosecution's

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Speaker 1: theory of the case that when they realize that he

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Speaker 1: had embezzled eight and a half million dollars. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, let me just take a step back and

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Speaker 1: explain how all this started. His youngest son was on

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Speaker 1: a boat, was drunk and ran the boat into a

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Speaker 1: bridge support and his girlfriend died in that incident. There

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Speaker 1: then was a massive lawsuit wrongful death civil suit filed

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Speaker 1: against the Murdoch family his younger son, and as part

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Speaker 1: of that story, they became aware as this litigation ensued

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Speaker 1: that Murdoch had stolen millions of dollars from his law firm,

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Speaker 1: basically money that he was not entitled to, that he

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Speaker 1: And then as that became apparent, then there is the

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Speaker 1: was going on in his financial affairs. This is the

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Speaker 1: theory of the prosecution was that he was going to

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Speaker 1: kill his wife and his son. It doesn't really to

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Speaker 1: me add up. And also there's an allegation that a

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Speaker 1: previous maid that worked for them may have been murdered.

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Speaker 1: She fell down the stairs, and they got a multimillion

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Speaker 1: dollar insurance settlement there the children of the maid that died,

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Speaker 1: they didn't really seem to understand that there had been

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Speaker 1: any kind of settlement. So he got millions of dollars

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Speaker 1: in life insurance and he sued his own property insurance.

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Speaker 1: It's really a convoluted story, and there may be people

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Speaker 1: out there who have been following it way closer than us.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I'm sure there are, and many of them

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Speaker 1: may be listening to us while they're also watching in

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Speaker 1: or taping this testimony. Because Murdoch taking the stand is

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Speaker 1: a holy crap moment for people who have been following

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Speaker 1: this case. It was massively popular in the podcast universe.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it spawned an entire series of shows all

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Speaker 1: spiraled out of this. It feels like this is a

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Speaker 1: this is a desperation move for the defense, I mean,

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Speaker 1: just just based on everything that you have laid out

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Speaker 1: here and I mean, for example, the possibility that there

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Speaker 1: was a murder of an employee and they got the settlement.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just all of these things. The jury hates

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Speaker 1: this person, right, That's clear at this point. Alex Murdoch

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Speaker 1: is a He comes across as a detestable person. Maybe

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Speaker 1: some of them would have a particularly sympathy just because

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Speaker 1: of the he's an addict, which has come out to say,

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Speaker 1: and people are sympathetic toward addicts. But the other stuff,

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Speaker 1: you know, the stealing and the he's he's not going

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Speaker 1: to be viewed favorably by a jury at all. So

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Speaker 1: given the facts and given the react the other problem

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Speaker 1: the defense has here is well who else did this? Right?

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Speaker 1: I mean they say the weapons were stolen, the weapons

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Speaker 1: have not been recovered. Yeah, and I'm glad you brought

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Speaker 1: this up, Buck, because the big part here that he's

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Speaker 1: been trying to argue is that initially there was the

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Speaker 1: thought that the brought that the sun and the mom

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Speaker 1: were murdered by family that was angry over the daughter

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Speaker 1: that died in the boat accident. So it was months

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Speaker 1: between when this murder happened and when they ended up

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Speaker 1: calling a charging Murdoch. Because the argument had been. This

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Speaker 1: That was what most people thought, and they thought that

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Speaker 1: and you're going to see a lot more of this

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