1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up, 2 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: straight Fire fan, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Friday, 3 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: June seventeenth. One of the most anticipated podcasts of the month, 4 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: maybe the basketball season, perhaps the calendar year. The Golden 5 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: State Warriors are champs. I picked it on this podcast 6 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: Warriors in six. I got a little lucky there. Steph 7 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: Curry m v P of the Finals for the first 8 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: time in his career. Tears in Curry's eyes in the 9 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: final minute of basketball. They kept him on the court 10 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: the entire time. We're eating dinner like a late dinner 11 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: watching the final. Man, I said, Curry's crying and my 12 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: kids are like, what they're looking about? Why? What are 13 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: they losing? I was like, no, tears of joy, baby. 14 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: Steph Curry wins the championship after Kevin Durant left him 15 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: for Kyrie Irving. Steph Curry finally Finals MVP. Just for 16 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: the record, he should have been Finals MVP. And when 17 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: Andrea Goodalla wanted for his defensive lebron Curry was tremendous 18 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: in those finals. It's it's a massive oversight, but whatever 19 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,839 Speaker 1: it happened, it don't matter anymore. And then a funny 20 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: thing happened after the game. Guys, so last night, you 21 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: know you have on. I don't really watch postgame coverage 22 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: of any of this crap because I consider myself an original. 23 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear what they have to say 24 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: and let it influence me. I see basically a promotional 25 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: nineties second video on like Curry's career from ESPN. I 26 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: was like, this is some interesting prepackaged stuff here, and 27 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: it was just like a coronation of Curry, which is 28 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: awesome and I think he deserves it. It's totally understandable. 29 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: I was just surprised and caught off guard by it. 30 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: They had like him dating back to when he was young, 31 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: skinny hundred eighty five pounds, maybe maybe hundred eighty pounds, 32 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: Steph Curry and his like rise through the ranks, and like, 33 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: it's tough not to get swept up and be like, 34 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: this is one of the best sports stories of the century. 35 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: It really is Steph Curry, where he came from, what 36 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: he became. Let's not forget Steph Curry. His father went 37 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: to Virginia Tech. Steph Curry could not get a scholarship 38 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: offer for Virginia Tech. Out of high school, and of 39 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: course I've gone after I've gone back and forth with 40 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: a former Virginia Tech coach on social media about it. 41 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: He's extremely defensive about it. Every time a good thing 42 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: happens to Steph Curry, it comes back to, hey, why 43 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: did you guys offer from a scholarship? And he's super 44 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: defensive about it. He I don't know how he got 45 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: me number, my number. I don't mind saying this, We're 46 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: not like friends. But he ends up. I tweeted about 47 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: it and then he texted me, no, that's not true, 48 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: blah blah, and I'm like, first of all, how did 49 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 1: you I don't care how you got my number? But whatever, um, 50 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: it's just odd. Steph Curry could not get a scholars 51 00:02:59,919 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: to Virginia Tech, goes to Davidson, becomes a transcendent star, 52 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: still isn't worthy of a top five pick in the draft, 53 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: goes to Golden State and it took him a while, 54 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: and it's you know, I'm not gonna get into the 55 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: whole Steph Curry versus lebron is Steph Curry top ten 56 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: like we got all summer. But the big picture is 57 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: it took Curry a while to figure things out and 58 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: grow into his body and bulke up and not have 59 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: ankle injuries and really perfect the system. Mark Jackson put 60 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: a really strong system in place. Steve Kerr twink tweaked, 61 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: tweaked it, tinkered with it, and Steph Curry became this 62 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: transcendent star. Everybody, for whatever reason last night was bringing 63 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: up Lebron. Well, Curry now has four titles. So does Lebron. 64 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: Uh stop? Wherever Lebron goes, you're instantly a championship contender, 65 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: right Cleveland early takes them to the finals, goes to Miami, 66 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: adds a couple of guys, four trips to the finals, 67 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: goes back to Cleveland, four trips to the finals. I 68 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: know you had. Kevin Love goes to the Lakers, wins 69 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: the championship. Like wherever he goes, you're gonna be dominant. 70 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: That's just how it was throughout his career. He's that 71 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: good of a player makes everyone else around him better. 72 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: I know sometimes you may need to take a step 73 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: back in your game, Chris Bosh, take a step back, 74 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: Kevin Love, take a step back. But sometimes in life 75 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: a little less is more, And I think that works 76 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: and fits for what happened with love and bosh. A 77 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: little less got you more. We don't need to score 78 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: twenty four and fourteen and and playing defense against the 79 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: number one guy. We don't need all that. You don't 80 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: need to be a number one option. You want to win, 81 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: do less, do this on this team. It'll work fine, 82 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: and it did. Curry, I don't think you could take 83 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: him tomorrow, transplant him to the I don't know, Charlotte Hornets, 84 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: or you could pick even a better team. I don't 85 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: know that if you put Steph Curry on the Atlanta 86 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: Hawks instantly, I don't think their finals material, right. Are 87 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: they a good team? Yeah? They're probably team the same 88 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: way Trey Young caught fire in Atlanta two years ago 89 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: and a couple of breaks got go their way and 90 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: they get to the conference finals. That would probably be 91 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: what what a Curry ceiling is? Curry and Lebron totally 92 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: different players, obviously all too great players to transcendent historically 93 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: great players. If you wanted to put both on Mount rushmore, 94 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna fight you. Earlier this week though, I 95 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: said Curry, I just don't know how you get him 96 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: on there. He now has the finals MVP he's got 97 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: another chip. Here's the thing, though, and people are overlooking this. 98 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: He's only thirty four years old, Guys, He's he's got 99 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: plenty of good years left. I mean, we're talking about 100 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: a guy who probably will be able to play until 101 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: he's thirty nine or forty. At that age, will be 102 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: a role player. But I don't see why this version 103 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: of Curry, assuming he's days healthy, assuming he keeps his 104 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: workout offseason conditioning doesn't let up, I don't see why 105 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:12,799 Speaker 1: he can't keep being a finals contender. Remember cominga moody. 106 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: Wiseman and Pool are twenty two, are younger now. I 107 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: know we haven't seen much of Wiseman. We talked to 108 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: Anthony Slater about that on yesterday's pod. Comingo showed flashes 109 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: though he didn't really play at all in the finals 110 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: except for garbage time. Pool is the guy to watch, folks. 111 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: He is electric. I don't need to dive deep into 112 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: Game six. You know what happened at this point. But 113 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: Jordan's Pool orchestrated at twenty one nothing run bridging the 114 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: first and second quarters. He was instrumental. And Jordan Pool 115 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: is a dynamic player. If if Jordan Pool is able 116 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: to be what he was at the end of the 117 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: season and in the early rounds. This is a really 118 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: scary Golden State team because then you allow Steph to 119 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: take a step back. Hey, step are you cool sacrificing 120 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: some of your numbers for longevity and when it matters, 121 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,799 Speaker 1: like the playoffs, you're fresh because you got Jordan Pool. 122 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure he would say. Yes. Now, you look at 123 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: Boston and I'll come back to the Warriors obviously, and 124 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: you look at Jayson Tatum, and you guys know, I 125 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: am in the tank for Tatum. We had his trainer 126 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: on the pod. I'm a humongous Jason Tatum fan. He 127 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: had a rough series. Something was wrong. I'm sure it's 128 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: gonna come out here in short order. This is just 129 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he was six of eighteen shooting in Game six. 130 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: He just looks spent. When you have to guard Kevin 131 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: Durant in the first round, Janice in the second, Jimmy 132 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: Butler in the third, and then chase around the Warriors 133 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: like that is just too much to ask of a 134 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: year old the guy. He was absolutely gassed. And here 135 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: is what I thought was perhaps the stat of the game. 136 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: Jason Tatum forty minutes, zero free throw attempts. Do you 137 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: know any playoff games he attempted zero free to Rose? None, none. 138 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: Every game he's driving, getting to the line, eating felt 139 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: the shoulder, which again yesterday's guest anthonys Later was on point, 140 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: it's a problem. It's just an issue for Tatum. He's 141 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: clearly hurt, but he's such a man as stud. He's 142 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: not gonna announce like I'm injured, I can't go. So 143 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: he struggled. He had five turnovers, only scored thirteen points. 144 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: I thought it would be a Tatum game, but I 145 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: underestimated his injury. I know, Jalen Brown, the final numbers 146 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: will look good, but my guys five turnovers, Celtics twenty 147 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: two turnovers. They just can't handle the ball. They cannot. 148 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: And again I do want to focus on the Warriors 149 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: because they want the chip. But if you look at 150 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: Boston and say, well, you know, if you look at 151 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: the glass half empty, Rob, I'll tell you well, the 152 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: nets were a mess, and Ben Simmons didn't play and 153 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: Joe Harris didn't play, so they took out the third 154 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: and fourth best players zero minutes. You know, they got 155 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: a little lucky second round Chris Middleton goes down, what 156 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: do you go down? In Game two? Did it didn't 157 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: finish the series? Like, yeah, you're missing your second best 158 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: player and All Star kind of a big deal. And 159 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: then in round three they survived Miami in Game seven 160 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: and yeah, they didn't really get lucky in that one, 161 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: but they did win the series. And you're like, Okay, 162 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 1: it's fortunate. Do we just run it back and come 163 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: back or do we tweak? And then I think if 164 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: you're looking a tweak, you know, Robert Williams was really 165 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: really impressive. He's gonna be a big time next year 166 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: if he can stay healthy. I don't know if Horford 167 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: will be as good next year. I think the move 168 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: you can make is Marcus Smart at the height of 169 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: his value, defensive player of the year. I just don't 170 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: think he can be a point guard for you. He doesn't. 171 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: He's just not sure enough with the ball. And then 172 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: you got Brown turning it over. It's just I think 173 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 1: Marcus Smarts the guy you need to flip. I don't 174 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: know if you could package Smart. And I like Grant Williams, 175 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: I like Pritchard. I don't know if there's gonna be 176 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: a taker for Derek White, and he he's a pretty 177 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: good defender, he's just offensively my gosh, minus Derrek White 178 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: in sixteen minutes, Peyton Pritchard minus twenty in eight minutes. 179 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: I felt bad for Pritcher because I do like him. 180 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: But if you flip can can you flip smart at 181 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: a pick for something of a pure point guard that's 182 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: out there, rob, I think that's one way you kind 183 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: of make the Celtics a little incrementally better. They're not 184 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: gonna be massively better, but I think they just need 185 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: to get a little bit better. Well, they need a 186 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: point guard. I mean that that's been the running commentary 187 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: on them for years now. They mean they tried Dennis 188 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: Shrewder for a while and then they had to let 189 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: him go. Because as good as Jason Tatum and Jalen 190 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: Brown are and don't let this series you know sway 191 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: you they are very very good players. Jaylen Brown may 192 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: have this is gonna sound bad, may have the worst 193 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: hands of any ball handler this side of Russell Westbrook. 194 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: Like he just can dribble into traffic without losing the ball, 195 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: whether it's him outright turning it over or then slapping 196 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: out of his hands and then he recovers it. Jayson 197 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: Tatum is a phenomenal score. He's getting much better as 198 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: a playmaker, but that's just not the strength of his 199 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: game right now. WHOA, I just looked it up, Rob, 200 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: I looked at free agent point guards. You're right, Marcus 201 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: Smarts a guy. Would you would you try to get 202 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: Ricky Rubio for Marcus Smart? I mean you're gonna need 203 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: more than Rubio? But is that a kind of a 204 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: pure point that kind of yeah, because he can shoot 205 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: a little bit defended. He's coming off knee injury, so maybe, 206 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 1: all right, how about it? But let me give you 207 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: different in then Tius Jones. He was the backup and 208 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: I like him a lot, but he's been a career backup, 209 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: so we don't know what's gonna happen. If he's relying, 210 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: you have to play thirty five minutes. Can he defend? 211 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: He's small? I mean that's the reason why you have 212 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: Williams Tatum, you know, uh Brown and Smart. You know 213 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: you have those guys for the defense. You know, one 214 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: of the issues that Boston had in this series was 215 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: their defensive guys. When you know they're starting line up 216 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: is pretty much all defense, all of those guys can 217 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: switch everything. They're very active. However, they didn't have a 218 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: real point guard, and as soon as you got to 219 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: their bench outside of Game one, Derek White was a disaster. 220 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: Peyton Pritchard, you know, I felt like he was Nick 221 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: Young out there, like as soon as he got the ball, 222 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: he was putting it up. And I think that's why 223 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: his minutes for Solow and Grant Williams was unplayable in 224 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: this series. He just could not keep up with all 225 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: the motion that the Warrior's offense was doing. So if 226 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: it means sacrificing a little bit on defense to get 227 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: someone who can organize your team, then maybe that's something 228 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: you can do because I think it will only make 229 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: Brown and take them better, and ultimately it'll do your 230 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: two best players. Anyways, if you can put them in 231 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: better position to succeed, I would agree. I think we're 232 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: in agreement here. Um. I don't know if they could 233 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: do a sign in trade, but Jones for smart smart 234 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: defense would help because we know John Moranda doesn't play 235 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: a lique defense. Well, why can't they just sign them 236 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: out right? I think they're gonna have to lose somebody, 237 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: right salary cap the Golden State Warriors are living proof 238 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: that the salary cap is a myth. As long as 239 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: you're willing to spend it and play the luxury attack, 240 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: you can do as much as you want. Now and 241 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: all fairness. The Boston Celtics again dumped Dennis Shrewder at 242 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: the deadline for nothing because they wanted to give avoid 243 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: the luxury tax. So maybe their ownership group is not 244 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: the right one to have this conversation about. I think 245 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 1: that my guests, and again, I'm not a billionaire. I 246 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 1: don't run in those circles, although Rob seems to think 247 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: I have money. That being said, uh, I think people 248 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: look at their teams and say, you know, if we're 249 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: a contender, I'll spend. If we're not, I'm not spending. 250 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to have to pay money and not 251 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: win the championship. And I'd have to look at the deadline. 252 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: But I don't think the Celtics for top three at 253 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: the deadline right in February. Yeah, they surged late, so 254 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,599 Speaker 1: this was a surprise, right, This is gonna be a 255 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: lucrative year. That's a great point. Rob. Does the owners say, 256 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: you know what, let's go all in one more year? 257 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: Al Horford only has one more year left on his deal. 258 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: You know he can't play much past that, right given 259 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: his age to wear and tear. This is his first 260 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: trip to the finals. I mean there's a lot of 261 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: wear in tara on Horford. He had a lot of 262 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: playoff runs in Atlanta. I would say, you go all in, 263 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: just signed tires Jones outright now. Now you do have 264 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: Peyton Pritchard as the backup. Um. But yeah, Boston's clothes 265 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: rob especially in the East. They're very good. I mean 266 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: they are, like you know this series not They were 267 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: a Steph curry greatest performance of his career away from 268 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: being up three one in this series. And then it 269 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: seems like as soon as they lost that game, the 270 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: win was completely taken out of their sales because they 271 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if, like you said, Jayson Tatum might 272 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: be hurt or whatever. But the game's five and six. 273 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: We're just complete mismatches, like Golden State had their number 274 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: each of the last two games. Um, but you know, 275 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: the today's about the Warriors, there's today's about Steph Curry. 276 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 277 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports 278 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: Radio dot Com and within the I Heart Radio app 279 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: search f s R to listen live. I don't know, Rob, 280 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: maybe we'll play a game where we just go shot 281 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: for shot with um crazy stats that will blow the 282 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: mind of the audience. This one I saw Rob this, 283 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: I had to do a triple take. I'm like, what, 284 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: So the Warriors Big Three Clay, Curry and Draymond has 285 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: more championships then Bird mcale in Parish, which are legendary 286 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: eighties Celtics right more, the Warriors Big Three has more 287 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: MP chips and magic Kareem and Worthy what and are 288 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: you ready for this? The Warriors Big Three Clay Korean, 289 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: Draymond has more championships than Pipping Rodman and Michael Jordan's 290 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: That is mind blowing. When you have to really think 291 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: about this, it's like a wait a minute, that's right. 292 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: Jordan's quit, oh sorry, retired, comes back. Knows they need 293 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: something because Houston was really strong and and I think 294 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: Barkley had gone to Houston or Tride Directs or whatever 295 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: it was. People were trying to super team it up. 296 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: And Michael Jorge says, oh, well, just we'll bring on 297 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: Dennis Rodman, who was already on the Hall of Fame track. 298 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: Before he got to the Bulls he was. He was 299 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: dominant in San Antonio, very good, excellent. In Detroit he was. 300 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: He was very good player. They also had Tony Coo Coach, 301 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: the the euro import who I mean, listen, I'm not 302 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: comparing him to Luca, but at the time the best 303 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: international players in the NBA off the top of my 304 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: head without even researching or draws, and Petrovich who ended 305 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: up dying in a car wreck, Vlada Divac and Tony 306 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: ko Coach, and I believe after Petrovick died, I think 307 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: ko Coach was considered the best internet European player in 308 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: the NBA, right, Yeah for sure? Okay, so Jordan's added 309 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 1: that and Jordan Pippen Romen only have three titles. The 310 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors Big three has four titles. That to 311 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: me is the mind blowing stat. Rob you laughed. You 312 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: know who has five titles? Wait? Wait a big three? 313 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: I just can I can name you a big two? 314 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: You know? How about a Kareem and Magic have five? 315 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: How about a Big three of Duncan Genobileian Parker have five? 316 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: How about five over eighteen years? Okay, how about Pippen 317 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: and Jordans have six. This is going the way you 318 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: thought it was gonna go. I mean, like, I know, 319 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: that's a coot. I was not trying to flex for 320 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: the world. I'm just saying, like, that's a stat to me. 321 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: This is a pro Warriors pot after they win the championship. 322 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: To me was like, holy cow. When you put it 323 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: that way, you know one of those deals I will say. 324 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: And you know, I love Steph Curry slander, like that's 325 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: one of my favorite things to do on this podcast. 326 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: I know you're a Curry guy. It was really awesome 327 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: to see him in those final moments of the game 328 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: and in the post game where he's basically crying his 329 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: eyes out because this was a coronation moment for him, 330 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: like this means so much more than any of the 331 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: other three that he wanted before. The only thing that 332 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: would have made this moment sweeter was if he would 333 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: have completed at seven, three, seventy three and nine win 334 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: season with the finals MVP in the Championship. Like Steph 335 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: Curry and maybe we'll get into it here, his career 336 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: is something that at even people like me who who 337 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: like the poke holes in it is something that is 338 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: just you have to appreciate, you know, what he's done, 339 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: what he can do going forward, because your to your point. 340 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: You know they have a young roster, you know, behind 341 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: the big three that could be really good. However, there 342 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: was a lot of commentary last night after they won 343 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: Steph Curry is the top ten player all time? Now, like, 344 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: what are you gonna say he's the top ten player 345 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: all the time. We've got the finals EPP in the 346 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: fourth Championship. I don't think unless you're just to completely 347 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: ignore anything before nine, Steph Curry can crack the top 348 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: ten without a fifth championship. Okay, fine, fine, I'll give 349 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: you that. Okay, who are you booting if he gets 350 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: a fifth championship? Uh? Either bird or a keem. He 351 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 1: made it to three finals, right, the one in the 352 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: eighties with Ralph Sampson they lost to the Celtics, and 353 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: then the two they went back to back when Jordan 354 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: was out right, Yes, he made three finals in a 355 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: super long career. I know his stats are ridiculous. Are 356 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: we sure Elijah want to top ten? I think he's 357 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: right in that like eight to twelve range. So to me, yeah, 358 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: I would say top ten. I think Curry is probably 359 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: in that eleven to fifteen, right, And that's nothing to 360 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 1: sneeze like. It's I know, it's gonna sound like I'm 361 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: dissing step Steph Curry is awesome, right, you know, as 362 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: as much as I enjoy the slander, there's only so 363 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: much slander you can throw at a guy who has 364 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: four championships and two m v p s, a unanimous 365 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: m v P, a unanimous finals MVP. But the problem is, 366 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: and this something that Athonys later brought up, which was 367 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: a really salient point, is that his you know, quote 368 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: unquote career where he was, you know, stacking up all 369 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: these accolades, started really really late, and for him to 370 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: catch up two guys like Bird, a laws you want. 371 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna bring up Kobe and Duncan. I 372 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: think they're just like in a different stratosphere. But Steph 373 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: Curry has four titles, two m v p s, and 374 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: eight all NBA teams, which is great. And then you're like, oh, wait, 375 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: team's got to two finals, MVPs, eleven all NBA teams. 376 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: Larry Bird has twelve thirteen all NBA teams, three finals MVPs, 377 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: three consecutive MVP awards, and It's like I think we 378 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,479 Speaker 1: forget when you go in the annals of NBA history 379 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: that this top ten or top twelve, whatever group you 380 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: want to call it, like, it's not just that they 381 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: were awesome, it's that their longevity is incredible for a 382 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: lot of these guys. Let's not forget. I just saw 383 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: this laj one all defensive teams nine d p O. 384 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: Why twice lad the Legan rebounds twice, led the legand 385 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: blocks three times, like he was unsurpassed as a defender. 386 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: That being said, I think possibly an equalizer. And it's 387 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: extremely subjective, and I know people who listen to this 388 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: are gonna get angry when I say it. If you 389 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: play the game rob where you're plopping X into a 390 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: different era. We know Curry is gonna do fine in 391 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 1: the eighties. I know there's hand checking. That's fine, there's 392 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: hand checking. Now, guys are all over Curry. Just watch basketball. 393 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: He just stretches it so wide and the quickness, And 394 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: I think Curry still is a dominant force like this 395 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: in the eighties and nineties. Undeniably. I do wonder what 396 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: is a large one in the current NBA. And now 397 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: I have not thought about this a lot. I have 398 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: mentioned the Patrick Eing aspect twice. Alija on much better feed, 399 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: great defender, had awesome low post moves. But if you 400 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: I mean, is is he Joel embiid Oh better than 401 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: embiid what at which side? Offensive? Deep? Both? Like Mbiad's great? 402 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: But indeed, like like I'm just I don't think a 403 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: lajah one had the range that himbid did. No, but 404 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: you didn't. I mean, obviously he's a better he has 405 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: had a better he had a better career. That's I 406 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: know they were in a three point era. But the 407 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: idea that you have to shoot threes to be effective, 408 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: especially if you're a big man, is well, Yoki Yoki 409 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: shoot trees. He's a big man, but it's not like 410 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: you look doesn't and he's like on the trade block. 411 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: You know that? Does youan issue? Three? Is at a 412 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: at a good clip? Look he shoot three? He's not great. 413 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant I think is the most lethal scorer in 414 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: the NBA right now, and I think he only averages 415 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: like five threes a game because he does so much 416 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: of his damage in the mid range. Like him and 417 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: Kauai Leonard are probably the last remaining guy and maybe 418 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: maybe hate um as well. Where if you look at 419 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 1: their shot chart when they score forty fifty points, like 420 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: you'll see a Steph Curry shot chart and you'll see 421 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: seven threes around the the arc and a couple of layups. 422 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: You see Lebron with you know, twelve dunks and and 423 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 1: six threes, and then you see a Tatum or or 424 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: a KD Kauai and it looks like somebody spray painted 425 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: the floor because it's all over the court. They'll hit 426 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: you from the free throw line, their left wing, the 427 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: right wing, that the block, anywhere, and so with the 428 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: spacing today, yes, the three pointer is very important. But 429 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: to say that you can't be successful if you don't 430 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: shoot threes, I don't think it's true. Okay, maybe that's strong, 431 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: but obviously three being more than two maths all that 432 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: we're seeing every big man, I mean, Al Horford is 433 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: a perfect example. It's like, you shot like nine three 434 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: pointers in his first like eight years in the league total, 435 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: and then he decided, oh, if I want to play 436 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: till the thirty six thirty seven, I need to be 437 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: able to make threes. And that's what he's doing. Now. 438 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: I'm not saying Elijah One could not become that. I'm 439 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: just saying, if you and it's impossible, if you transplanted 440 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: that player into this current NBA. I mean, is he 441 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: an all NBA center. He's probably you know, he's a 442 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: better version of Rudy Gobert since Rudy has no offense, 443 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: but I don't. I mean, I'd have to have to 444 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: look it up. Listen, Obviously, I'm not slandering a Lajah one. 445 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: This is a great, an all time great college basketball 446 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: player and a really really good center. Definitely top ten 447 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: center all time, maybe top five. I don't know, but 448 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: I don't think he's as good of a passer as 449 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: yokich No. And listen, Yoki, and you guys know, I'm 450 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: not the biggest fan. He has really really impeccable footwork 451 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: in the low post, like it's mightbe not on a 452 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: large one's level, but he's still young. I think he 453 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: could match that. He just I don't think he's defensively 454 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: nearly as good as the Laga one. No, not even close. 455 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: And so I think I guess I guess the three 456 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: book bottom eizes I was, I think you're right. If 457 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna boot somebody it would probably be a large one. 458 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: And then and then I started looking on like Robert, 459 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: are we sure a large one top ten over Curry? 460 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: Pretty close? You made a good point, like, listen, his 461 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: all NBA teams eight for Curry, two for a large one. 462 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: But again, a large one. Played five more seasons can 463 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: Curry make I don't know, two or three more all 464 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: NBA teams. So if he's healthy, he should be in 465 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: the mix for at least two more years, right, you 466 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: would think so absolutely, because the way that he takes 467 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: care of I mean, as long as he can avoid injury, 468 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: I think Steph Curry can be playing at a high 469 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: level for at least three to four years at least 470 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: because he he's I think he's probably in the best 471 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: shape of any player in the NBA. You see how 472 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: much he moves around the court, you know, always moving, 473 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: always is active. Their style of play I don't think 474 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: really wears him down physically because it's not like he's 475 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: driving into traffic very often. I mean you saw, I 476 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: think last night they only shot eight free throws. Yeah, 477 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: and he lit up as he's done all series. Marcus Smart, 478 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: who was the best defensive player in the league the 479 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: other thing, Robin, There's this is unquantifiable. It's just a 480 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: statement that I believe is obvious. A La Jahan won 481 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: nothing until Michael Jordan left nothing. Steph Curry is winning 482 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: chips in Lebron's era, not just one, not just two. 483 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: He's got four now and I know he had Durant 484 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: for a couple of them, but he's now one before 485 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: Durant and after Durant. And by the way, we will 486 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: close up with some Kevin Durant thoughts in a bit. 487 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: But I mean, Rob when you just compared that aspect like, 488 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I hate, like it's silly. I hate to 489 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: say it, but if Jordan doesn't retire, I mean, the 490 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: Rockets were probably the best team in the leagu one 491 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,479 Speaker 1: of those two years, but the Nick sure as hell 492 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: should have won one of those championships. Of course you 493 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: say that as a Knicks fan. Now, I will say 494 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: I had this take that I thought was unique take 495 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: until I saw a few people had it on Twitter, 496 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 1: and I guess I'll just share it with you now 497 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: off of what you just said. The fact to me, 498 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: the fact that Steph Curry won that championship last night, 499 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: got his fourth to match Lebron to me, eliminates Lebron 500 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: from the Goat conference, like as the goat for exactly 501 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: what you said that, Steph Curry basically since like two 502 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: thousand and twelve, when Lebron won his first one, has 503 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: been eye to eye with Lebron the last decade. Now. 504 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: I know, it's not really fair to Lebron because he 505 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: did have what almost like a full decade before that 506 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: where he was also awesome, So it's you know, I 507 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: guess you can make that point. But since Lebron started 508 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: collecting his rings from two thousand and twelve two now, 509 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: Steph Curry's resume is almost identical to Lebron. During that span, 510 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: they both got the four rings. The All nbas are closed, 511 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: the All Star Games are close. Where Lebron I think 512 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: has him is probably on the All defensive teams. But 513 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: I don't even know if he's gotten any since two 514 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: thousand twelve, So um, I don't know. I just fundamentally, 515 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: I don't think it's fair to say, because of what 516 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: that guy is doing, you're now disqualified for being in 517 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: the goat conversation. I just on some level, like Lebron's 518 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: career and numbers and dominance and everything stands on itself. 519 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter when you're comparing Jordan to Lebron. 520 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: What Steph caris do you know? Like I mean, if 521 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: we want to do that game, rob like Magic Johnson 522 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: retired due to HIV, Isaiah Thomas retired I think at 523 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: thirty three, maybe thirty four. Larry Bird, you know, back 524 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: in He's ruined his career. I mean, Curry's already outlasted. 525 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: I believe Magic Bird and Isaiah Thomas in terms of longevity. 526 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: Um Lebron's facing players who are playing now into their 527 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: late thirties, whereas Jordan's as he finally ascended and got 528 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: to the top of the mountain, the Big three, Isaiah 529 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: Bird and Magic were toast after he beat Magic in 530 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: the finals. It like the sea's parted, Magic retires, Celtics 531 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: are broken, by the way. I don't think the Bulls 532 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: ever beat the Celtics in the playoffs when Jordan was there, 533 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: did they? I don't think they ever beat the Celtics, 534 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: and they only beat the Pistons once and lost to 535 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: him multiple times. So it's like, I don't know, But again, 536 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: what does that all mean? I just I hate the 537 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: idea of knocking Lebron because Curries it's amazing. Yeah, And 538 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to this Lebron because he is a Laker, 539 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: So I'm not trying to go out of just Curry, 540 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: just Lebron. It's just going after the secret cows well, 541 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: you know. And the way this works is the reason 542 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,479 Speaker 1: why Michael Jordan is considered the goat by a lot 543 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: of people is not just because of the statistics, because 544 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,239 Speaker 1: Lebron is gonna have better stystics by a mile. You know, 545 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: Kareem statistics are up there, Will Chamberlain's physics are up there. 546 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,719 Speaker 1: It's not just the championships because Bill Russell has eleven, 547 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: you know, Kareem has six as well. To go with it. 548 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: What what sets Jordan apart is this narrative that he dominated. 549 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: As soon as he started winning, he didn't stop winning. 550 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: There was no one who was any close. There was 551 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: no peer to him during his time, like he reigned 552 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: supreme for a decade. Basically, there was no there was 553 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: never any challengers to the throne base for for whatever 554 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: and what all those other guys have working against them, 555 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: say for Bill Russell, because he played when there was 556 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: like seven teams in the NBA is, well, Magic's got five, 557 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: but birds got three. You know, Um, Kareem got his 558 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: five with Magic, but he wasn't. You know. The Pistons 559 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: want to during that stretch as well. Lebron has his four, 560 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: but now Steph's got four as well. So it's like, 561 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: can you really say that you're absolutely the greatest player 562 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: of all time when even during your era of basketball, 563 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: you could make an argument for somebody else. And I 564 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: think that's what separates Jordan's from everyone else is because 565 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: whether it's true, I mean, I think it's true that 566 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: during his era there was no peer to him during 567 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: that run. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk 568 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at 569 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the I Heart 570 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: Radio app search f s R to listen live. That's 571 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: a fair statement. I'm trying to think of Jabbar. Was 572 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: there anybody in the seventies? Probably not, he was old. 573 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: In the eighties, Jordan had no peer. Um, you know 574 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: the cynic and me would say, well, because the best 575 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: players all retired because they were burnt out from dominating 576 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: the eighties. Um, you know, Clyde Drexler, somebody came on 577 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: this podcast, it was hyping Clyde Drexler's super underrated Who 578 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: else did Jordan faced You faced the Sonics Jazz a 579 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: couple of times uh Sons with Richard Dumas and Charles Barkley, Like, 580 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: I don't know some of this has to do. And 581 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: it's funny. You know, my kids in fifth grade and 582 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: I have also have a third grader, And the funniest 583 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: part is both those grades are totally stacked with athletes, Rob, 584 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: And then you look at fourth grade and it's a dearth. 585 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: For whatever reason, fourth and second not loaded with athletes. 586 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: So every weekend, you know, the basketball coach sends the 587 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: line up and there's like four teen kids in the 588 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: fifth grade group who signed up and are like, we 589 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: can play this weekend. And then you look at the 590 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: fourth grade group and there's like four so they have 591 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: to like have kids play down, some play up just 592 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: to even amount. Like for whatever reason, certain years are stacked. 593 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: For whatever reason, this current era, ROB is off the charts. 594 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: It's so loaded with great players, just like the eighties. 595 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: But then you look at the nineties and it's like, 596 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: m hmm, Rob, I look at the greatest list, the 597 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: top ten players. If you exclude Russell and um Chamberlain. 598 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: You go Jordan's primarily nineties Magic and Bird eighties a 599 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 1: La Jahuan he got he got to the league in 600 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 1: eighty four, but one his chips in ninety five and 601 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 1: four and five. Correct. Tim Duncan was the zero zeros, 602 00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: Kobe was the zero zeros, Shack was zero zeros. Only 603 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: really one guy from Jordan's prime, and look at Curry 604 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: and Lebron and k d are probably all top fifteen. 605 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: I would have to really look closer at fourteen. I 606 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 1: think I just don't know if there's anyone else from Jordan. 607 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: What what does Shack fall under zero zero's or I 608 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: would say that he's nineties into the early two thousand, 609 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: but he didn't win anything. He didn't know. But I 610 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: know that everybody talks about the Lakers Shack. But Orlando 611 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: Shock was awesome. They were just so young, Yeah, but 612 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 1: they got swept in the finals. I think Shack was 613 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: what five, so he was Jayson Tatum's age, you know, 614 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,439 Speaker 1: during his Orlando Magic years, right, So they did knock 615 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,720 Speaker 1: off Jordan one year, so you could, in my opinion, 616 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,919 Speaker 1: three of the top ten players of all time played 617 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,919 Speaker 1: in the nineties so who would be the third shock 618 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: and Jordan's but Larja one was drafted in eight four 619 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, but he made the finals, I think 620 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: in like but he played during the nineties, Okay, he 621 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 1: would would give him a half? Okay, the other half 622 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: the two guys from the nineties. Curry would be the Tens, 623 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: Durant would be the Tens and Lebron. I mean, what 624 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: do you make the finals? And oh seven? Yeah, and 625 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: now the Lebron spanning three decades oh seven finals, made 626 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: the finals a million times in the tens and then 627 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,439 Speaker 1: in twenty made the finals again. That come on, Yeah, 628 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: it's incredible. Are we ready to talk Lakers not? Let's 629 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: wrap up with Kevin Durant. I looked, I didn't see 630 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,439 Speaker 1: anything on I G or Twitter from Kevin Durant after 631 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: the game, Rob, maybe I missed it. I did. I 632 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: do have a friend. I'm on a text chain with 633 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: a buddy who's a Laker fan, like the biggest Kobe 634 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: Kobe fan I know. And then the other guy is 635 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: a big Warriors fan from the Bay Area, and he 636 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: fired off a really strong text and you know his 637 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: name is Colbert. He goes Mac. You need to use 638 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:18,720 Speaker 1: this Steph didn't need k D. K D needed Steph, 639 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: and I let it marinate for a little while before 640 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: firing anything off. I decided not to push that on 641 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: social last night, and I thought about it, and I 642 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: wonder if Steph was so emotional after the game Rob 643 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: because a Durrett left him, because Durrett supposedly wanted to 644 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: play with him in the system. Durrette left him for Kyrie. 645 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: Everybody kind of wrote off the Worris Well, I lost Kadi, 646 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: he was there finals MVP, They're not getting back, and 647 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: on some level all that stuff hurt Coreel. I just wonder. 648 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: I mean, we'll never know the answer. He probably would 649 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: never admit it, but you have to wonder that. Can't 650 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: you can't feel great if you're Carrie, Like a little 651 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: Brown could say whatever he wants, the mere fact that 652 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving said get me the hell out of here, 653 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:05,879 Speaker 1: and they were like no, and He's like fine, I'll 654 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: say I'm gonna have surgery and I'm not gonna play 655 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: the full season like I Actually, if you're Lebron, do 656 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: you want to get away from me that badly? And 657 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: then you're Kevin Durant like Bro, I'm leaving you to 658 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: go play with Kyrie. That had to hurt Curry obviously. 659 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: And listen, I'm I like Kadi, I think he's incredible. 660 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 1: Is he gonna win another title? Rob? Without Steph Curry? 661 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 1: And if Steph gets to the finals again, like you 662 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: could say, Okay, this was flukey. John Maria got hurt. 663 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 1: There was no Jamal Murray. MAVs were long shots, like 664 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,720 Speaker 1: you can make up. You can play that game. Honestly, 665 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: every year, guys go looking the place, right Rob, you 666 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:54,760 Speaker 1: know we do this. I think going into next season, 667 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: there's more pressure on Kevin Durant than any player in 668 00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,919 Speaker 1: the NBA. I know some people are gonna say, Harden 669 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: and Be they gotta figure it out. Some people say 670 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard coming back from injury, the Clippers ever going 671 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: to figure this crap out? Someone say Lebron this has 672 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: got to be his final year, Its peak of his powers. 673 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: It's got to be Kevin Durant. It has to you. 674 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:19,280 Speaker 1: Guys saw him totally dominate with the Warriors. He leaves 675 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: a move I've called idiotic many times, they still win. 676 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: So they wont before Durant with Durant. After Durant Durant 677 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: didn't win before there, hasn't won after there. The pressure 678 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 1: is on k D. Now you could say the pressures 679 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: on every year. He's a superstar. If you're if you're 680 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: making the list of who the pressure is on, Kevin 681 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 1: Durant has to be number one, right Rob, Oh, Yeah, 682 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: He's definitely up there. And for all of the breaks 683 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 1: that the Warriors got this season, which they got some 684 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: both teams got something. Everybody has breaks, Kevin Durant has 685 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,479 Speaker 1: gotten the opposite of that. Ever since he left Golden 686 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: State harm a baby he has. He has gotten nothing 687 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: to break his way since he left Golden State. And 688 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: unfortunately that the truth is and and I'm sure he 689 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,919 Speaker 1: even he has knows no matter what he says on Twitter, 690 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 1: he has to know this. Him leaving Golden State is 691 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: going to follow him for the rest of his career, 692 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 1: the rest of his life, even unless he wins a 693 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: championship leading his own team. And even though I think 694 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: he was the best player by far on those Warriors teams, 695 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 1: even though I disagree with you by far, Yes, Kevin 696 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: Durant was fantastic. He was, no doubt, but by far 697 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 1: look at the stats. Just I know where we don't 698 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: get time with up against it a little bit, but 699 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: when you get a free moment, look at what Kevin 700 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 1: Durant did. Look doesn't even need to be looked at. Okay, 701 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: So Kevin Durant as soon as he got to Golden 702 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 1: State was finals. You're right, Yeah, as soon as he 703 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 1: got there thirty five points per game, That's what I'm 704 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: saying he was. Curry was good. Curry is are twenty six, 705 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 1: but Kadi shot fifty five forty seven. Yeah, he deserved 706 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: the finals MVP. Remember Curry after four games in this 707 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,240 Speaker 1: series was from three k D in five shot forty 708 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: seven average thirty five, eight and five. And oh, by 709 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: the way, he did defend Lebron late in every game. Yes, 710 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 1: he was amazing. And I disagree with your buddy, evenough 711 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: I think it's a it's an interesting take that k 712 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 1: D needed Steph more than Stepan D because I think 713 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 1: if that was the case, Steph would not have recruited 714 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant after they lost in what was Yes, but 715 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 1: to your point, and this is what happens when you 716 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: have great players, and k D is one of those 717 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: all time rate top fifteen, top ten, top twenty player 718 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: whatever you want to put him. He has judged on 719 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,240 Speaker 1: a different plane than everybody else. He's judged like Steph 720 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: Curry is going to be judged now, like Lebron is 721 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: judged now. So he's going to need to get that 722 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: ring away from the Warriors for it not to haunt 723 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: him the rest of his career that he left them 724 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: and k D also is thirty four years old with 725 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: a history of injuries. That's the difference in him and Stead. Also, yeah, 726 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: he he did lose Achilles. He had some injuries. Okay, 727 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: see Curry at the ankle injuries early. He's rebounded Um 728 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 1: a great finals, no doubt about it. Summer's officially here 729 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 1: for me and the family. I will be on Cowherd 730 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:48,720 Speaker 1: show later this morning and maybe playing basketball this weekend. 731 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: Our basketball league is off for Father's Day. Hope everybody 732 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,320 Speaker 1: has a phenomenal Father's Day weekend and we'll talk to 733 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:55,800 Speaker 1: you Monday.