WEBVTT - A Conversation with Jets QB Coach Rob Calabrese (6/21) 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:06.360 We were presented by win Bett. Betty is a team 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:09.920 sport bet together at win Bet. Is my pleasure to 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:15.040 welcome Jets quarterbacks coach Rob Calabres to this studio. Thanks 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:17.320 for coming up, Thanks for having me appreciate it your 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:20.959 work basically just under our studio right now. What's it 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:24.200 been like here in your two the differences for you 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:28.479 in your position? Um, it's it's been great just to 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:30.720 go from your one of year two and the expectation 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:33.639 now with these guys knowing our scheme, especially a year 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:36.280 two with Zach not a rookie anymore. And for myself 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:38.199 as well, you know, getting with la Flour first year 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:40.360 working with him and the guys in our staff. So 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:42.400 it's been a great experience for me and I'm looking 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:44.760 forward to see what we put on the field from Sundays. 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:47.400 I want to get to your background, but first let's 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:52.600 go back to late January Mobile Alabama. Rob Calbarre's the 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:56.320 offensive coordinator of the national team. What was that week 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:00.240 like for you? What did it mean and all? So, 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:02.480 how cool of an opportunity was it. It was a 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:05.479 huge opportunity for not only myself but our staff as 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:08.039 far as in the evaluation with each one of those prospects. 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:10.360 You know, we took Jeremy Rucket from the senior browme. 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:12.320 We had him there and was able to coach him 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:13.880 and watch him going the field and take what we 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:17.319 taught in the classroom and go execute. But for myself, 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:19.440 just being able to coordinate that coordinate that game, I 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:21.840 was appreciative Coachala and with Florida let me do that. 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:24.840 And on game day it was amazing. You know, we 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:26.959 call plays and just watch it unfold and try to 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:29.440 execute the scheme. So I was happy with how it 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:31.840 turned out, and UM, great learning experience for myself. Well, 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:35.479 you guys got the w ron Middleton head coach during 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:37.600 that game. How did you grade yourself in terms of 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:41.039 self scout afterwards? Um? Not too much self scout. I 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:45.800 had about hundred races per day, so that's not good. 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:48.200 But other than that, it was we ever got there 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:50.000 and execute, and that's the most important thing. You have 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:53.280 three days to practice to install scheme, to to get 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:55.320 a fairy evaluation on these guys can to handle it, 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:57.680 but also can we execute and not and not have 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:00.160 negative plays and things that pop up like that. So 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:02.200 I was happy with with what we did on the 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:04.919 field and the players that were awesome, and the coaching 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:07.320 staff like we handled it well. How much did you 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:09.680 throw out those guys in three days before they go 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:13.600 out there, because obviously you want them to learn, but 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:16.080 at the same time, you don't want to throw too 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.400 much at them, right, and you threw We threw a 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:19.880 lot of them because you got to think of it, 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:23.080 with how college football is nowadays and the lack of 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:25.760 huddling and burbage that these guys signal a lot of things, 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:29.000 so that's all new to them. And then to give 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:31.440 them our offense and certain amount of plays and to 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:33.760 be able to go execute it, it's it's overwhelming for 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:36.359 them at first. And we had about a two hour 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:38.200 meeting the night before practice and then went right to 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:40.520 the practice field, so you had to crunch it all in. 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:42.200 They had to put some time and study on our own, 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:45.040 which they did, and it uh just snowballed into that 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:46.520 and it was it was a good week. I know. 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:49.119 You obviously going to become fans a lot of these 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:53.200 guys because you invest in them and then you get 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:55.520 to know their personalities a little bit. You guys end 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:59.040 up taking some of these players who participated in the 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:02.160 Senior Bowl down and Bill Alabama. But for you specifically, 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:05.120 what kind of relationships to just start with Kenny Pickett 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:09.320 from Pittsburgh, Desmond Ritter from Cincinnati, and then Carson Strong 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:13.639 from Nevada, all guys who are now on NFL teams. Yeah, 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:15.440 you know, I got the communicate with them a little 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:17.320 bit before, a week before because they were eager, they 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:19.840 wanted the playbook, and um just started that process of 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:22.320 building a relationship and just getting to meet those guys 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:24.639 in person and spend that time with them. And then 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:26.440 being quarterbacks, they spent a lot more time in the 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:29.240 meeting rooms when they could the extra and got there 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:31.200 early in the mornings and to go over things. But 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:34.120 it was a good group and they're they're dedicated, they're smart. 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:35.520 That's the reason why they were there and the reason 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:37.640 why they have moved on in the NFL and have 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:40.280 spot and have homes now. But talk to them on 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:45.080 draft a congratulation. I communicate with them just throughout throughout 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:47.880 this process because you know, you built that relationship and 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:49.440 you want to see these guys do well because you 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:51.520 know I had a part in that of just showing 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:53.840 them what did the NFL is like and and watching 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:56.360 them grown. It was short three days, but M have 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:58.920 good relationship for all three of them. Solid gets hired 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:02.000 in January two. I was twenty one. How soon after 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:05.720 did you get a call? Oh? Shoot, maybe I don't 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:07.160 even know the time for him, maybe a week or 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:10.120 two after, but we were on break and you know, 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.240 kind of got word from my agent that this could 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:14.839 be happening. And it was lucky enough to just talked 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:16.880 to Solo on the phone and the floor and and 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:18.680 things worked out and I was able to come back home. 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:23.720 What was the difference the landscape right now that you're 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:27.320 dealing with as opposed to last year? Because I wanted 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:32.640 to ask you specifically, specifically about one person who um 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:36.440 made such a lasting impact in a short time. That 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:38.600 was Greg Nap because that was a guy you worked 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:40.760 with a lot less I was attached to hit and 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:44.960 um first getting here that that was that was probably 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.200 the most important person I've met in my coaching career 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:50.120 in that short amount of time. And uh, the amount 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.680 of information and love and just knowledge that he just 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:54.920 wanted to share because he was out at that at 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:56.440 that spot in his career where he was at peace 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:58.760 with what he was doing and just wanted to help 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:02.760 develop players co choose anybody possible, And uh, I learned 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:04.200 so much for him in that short amount of time, 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:06.160 and I was I was so appreciative to just to 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:08.920 just be able to be in his presence. And I 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:11.080 knew coming into this is that was the situation with 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:12.960 how we're going to be in a quarterback room. And 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:14.919 I was looking forward to it because of his experience 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.200 and and then getting to meet the type of guy 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.359 he was, and it was it was just it was 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:22.320 huge for me and just I was very lucky and 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:25.359 very blessed to just be around him. That's what everybody 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:27.520 says about Nap or what did he bring to the 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.200 table in terms of when he was on the field 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:33.320 and the classroom and why did guys gravitate towards him. 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:35.320 It's just his energy. You'll you'll feel his vibe as 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:37.600 soon as you just you got to meet him, you'll introduce. 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:39.320 He went around the whole building the first day we 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:41.320 got here, and that was the first thing I noticed, 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:44.360 is he's making an effort to go start that relationship 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:47.240 and create that bond with whoever that he came into 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.480 contact with, and those are things that I learned that 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:51.640 I had just I was just a football coach. There's 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.720 a ball and scheme and film, and he had everything 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:56.599 with all that, he had everything else outside of that, 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:59.560 and just he had like his vibe attracted people to him. 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:01.200 People want to go talk to him because that's the 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:03.560 type of person he was. Why was he so good 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:08.040 with quarterbacks? So um, his energy, his enthusiasm, his meetings, 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:10.120 you just knew. You never knew what was gonna happen, 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:12.000 so you're always on your toes in a good way. 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:15.000 And he just was. He was an amazing teacher from 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:18.600 his experiences, from his way to communicate what he wanted 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:21.200 to get done in the classroom to the field, and 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:23.040 it was really cool to be a part of. He 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:26.279 tutored and mentored some of the all time grades during 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:31.760 those meetings. Would he pull up some clips for your experience. 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:33.360 You watched some of the Payton Man and clips, and 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:37.360 you know he he Uh in his office he has 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:41.320 his old playbook from Sacramento State, I believe, and I 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:43.800 have it and uh, just his notes and just to 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:45.159 be able to go through and look at those things 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:47.000 from when he was a quarterback to when he was 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.280 a coach, and it's just this giant playbook of information. 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:51.960 I often looked through it just to kind of just 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.960 remind myself of his key coaching points and how he 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:58.359 believes in the quarterback position offensively and and and in 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.400 total as as a person. There's there's how much good 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:04.120 information He talked about how difficult it was for you 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:08.640 not to lose the man professionally who was going to 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:10.880 mean so much to you, but him as a person, 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:13.400 because you're just talking about it right now and I 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:15.200 see it in your eyes what he meant to you 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:18.800 was a guy. Yeah, it was. It was probably one 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.960 of the toughest phone calls that I had gotten out 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:23.960 of the blue, and you're kind of getting ready to 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:26.520 come back for training camp and just to hear that 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:28.640 happened to to the type of man he was and 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:32.320 what he meant to so many people, Um, you know, 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:37.320 just watching the his ceremony on on on the internet 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:39.520 when they had it and hearing those people talk about 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:42.920 them and the stories they shared, it was it was 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:46.480 kind of it was a surreal experience. It just, you know, 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:48.680 I felt that and just see everyone else and those 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:51.640 important people and how many people he impacted in his life, 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:54.640 and I was just so so blessed to just sit 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:56.920 there and say, I mean, how lucky am I just 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:59.760 spend no. Six months with him and being able to 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.160 just a sponge and soak everything up. But also just 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:04.960 you know, have a friend that that cared so much 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:08.120 about each each individually came into contact with. There's our 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:11.559 text messages and you know, throughout summer breaks, mandatory sending 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:13.440 pictures to your family. I want to see what's going on, 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:16.480 Send me a video, what you got going on? Keeping 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:19.200 in a loop, see sending pictures. So those are things 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:21.760 that you just you just you don't come into contact 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:24.320 with much very often, and I was very lucky to 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:28.480 just to experience out the unique individual. Everybody who came 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:31.920 in contact with Greg Nap would say that he was 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.600 your friend, and he would get to know your name, 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.000 walk around the building, get to know your name, and 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:40.760 come back to it and then you know your family members. UM. 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:45.120 From a football perspective, how do you make the transition 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:47.800 in terms of last year of what you guys are 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:52.560 doing with the quarterbacks? Because it's you and your first year. UM, 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:56.200 Greg Nap was going to be instrumental throughout the season 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:58.359 for you guys, but you have to make the transition. 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:03.120 And Robert Sale said that you guys wouldn't be doing 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.319 never any justice if he took that step back, because 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:09.200 he wants you guys to live and embrace every moment. 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:13.080 You hire Matt Kavanaugh, and then at a certain point 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:15.840 during the season, after Zack Wilson's hurt with the knee injury, 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:19.040 you bring in John Back. Yeah, and I look at 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:21.240 it as if we're doing anything possible to help Zach 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:25.360 be successful, to help this organization win games. So you know, 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:28.680 as football coaches, that's our job is to myself and 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:30.800 everyone in that rooms have prepared the quarterback to give 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:33.240 them the tools necessary to win on Sunday and then 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:35.800 ultimately helped his team win and start wearing some football 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:39.199 games here. So you know, with coach cav another veteran coach, 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:41.599 I had so much information and another great guy that 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:43.760 I was able to just soak things up from him, 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:46.400 the way he taught, the way he viewed the position, 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:48.840 just certain things that you know you can't get from 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:51.400 anywhere else, but just going through experience wise with somebody. 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:54.079 And then John Beck, who's a who's a guy that's 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:56.480 fundamentally going to look at each quarterback and know what's 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:59.080 wrong with their throwing motion and can fix things by 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:01.760 just seeing it on and spending time with him and 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:05.320 learning about the biomechanics and looking at a quarterback's feed 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:08.400 or how to quickly fix something but without wholesale changing something. 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:10.959 I mean I took, I took all those things. 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And gave 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:38.959 me part of the New York Jets office up to the 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:40.600 the change in terms of conditions at win bet dot 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:42.679 com twenty one the older at President of New Jersey. 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:44.320 If you're someone you know has a gambling problem, called 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.720 on seven zero seven one one seven. From your perspective, though, 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:54.120 what changed for Zach pre injury then coming back post injury, 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:56.480 Because it's easy for us to say, we write it 0:10:56.480 --> 0:11:00.800 down that hey listen, turnover streak. He started protecting the 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:03.400 football five straight games. He ends the year. He's just 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:08.080 making better decisions. But you know the game inside and out. 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.960 What was different about him? It's, um, it's a it's 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:14.000 a rookie quarterback in the NFL, and that's that's the 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:16.880 hardest position to play at this level. And and he was. 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:19.400 He was thrown in the fire game one as a starter, 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.920 playing playing that position up until he got hurt, and 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:25.600 and within it, within a game a season, those weeks 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:27.960 they just go. It doesn't stop unless you have a 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:30.280 bye week or you play a Thursday night game. You 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:32.440 have to two days off, so you just you just 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:34.840 keep going. And then you know, when he did get hurt, 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:37.280 he was able to just sit back and reflect and 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:40.520 go back through and watch those those games again and 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:42.560 really think about what he was seeing and what he 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:44.760 felt and and what it meant to him in those 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:48.000 certain situations in those moments. Also while getting to watch, 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:50.960 you know, Mike White Joe Flacco, Josh Johnson go out 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:53.960 there and execute our our system, our scheme and have 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:55.840 some success doing it. And the reason why they were 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:58.640 just just playing a position, playing each down not forced. 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:00.240 You don't you don't have to make every single player. 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.040 You just let the game come to you. So when 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.240 he came back, he just had this this whole vision 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.480 of the position on what he went through. He felt 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:08.760 the speed of the game, he felt what it was 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.640 like to play four quarters sixty minutes and the wearing 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:13.880 hair of an NFL game. But he also had the 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:16.760 tools to be successful and just play the position. So 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:19.679 it was kind of like a he called it his 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:22.000 sophomore year, you know, it came back from he played 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:24.800 his freshman year and ended up getting hurt, which was unfortunate, 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:27.160 but and Zach me and the guy he is, he 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:29.760 took that as I'm gonna get better from this. How 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:32.440 I go back and watch everything that I did and 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:34.040 I learned from the guys that are playing right now 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:37.040 and it just never stops, which was it was really 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:39.280 cool to see from him to come back and just 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.120 change the way he played the game. What did you 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.760 tell him in January? After that game in Buffalo Because 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:47.600 Michael Fleur says it, I know you're gonna echo those 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:51.440 sentiments that he's a guy who doesn't get away. That's 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.480 not natural from him. It's exactly what we told him 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:56.600 to get away. And it takes some time off and 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:58.559 just do almost what you did when you when you 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:02.360 ended up getting hurt. But first just go collect your 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:05.440 thoughts and just get get yourself back to just back 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:07.840 to reality. And then then he started going through the 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:09.760 film and started working on some things that you need 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:12.080 to work on with his footwork, some certain throws that 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:13.520 he missed, and he was able to spend some time 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:15.920 out wherever he was at and he went all around 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:18.000 and get what our receivers, which was awesome. That was 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:20.200 a huge stuff for him from a leadership standpoint and 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:23.280 just just building that chemistry with all those guys. So 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.600 he is a football junkie, but you know he uh, 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:28.319 he came back with a clear head and just ready 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:32.720 to go. How does he challenge you inside the media room? Uma, 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:35.240 he always wants his that he wants he wants to 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:37.200 know a lot and we've we've learned over the last 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:41.480 year's you know, there's there's useful information and there's there's information, 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:44.280 you know that doesn't really matter. Just go play each play, 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:46.640 play the position, and and do what we're acting to 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:49.560 within the time of the play, within our scheme, and 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:51.480 good things will happen. And I think he saw that 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:54.719 with with Mike White, and um, since not a game, 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:56.720 you know you're not. You're just playing a game. And 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.560 if if it's unfortunate the number one receiver is not open, 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:02.480 that's okay, get your completion and things start to happen 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:05.559 because of that in the fourth quarter. And um so 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:08.360 we kind of just our whole goal, this whole lostoy 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:13.360 simplifier thoughts and simplifier life. Yes, it's interesting what you 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:15.439 just talked about. It you in an example there the 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:21.200 Cincinnati game. But can you want too much information? Yes? 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:24.000 And that's that's something I learned as a coach year one. 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.200 You know you don't that's our job is to have 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.440 all that information and get the right play and play 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:32.120 design and when and how and when why. But we 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:34.080 don't need to give you all of that. It's just, hey, 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:36.280 this is probably the best case scenario, and this is 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:38.600 the worst case scenario. You need to have a plan 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:40.520 for it. But other than that, you're just playing football. 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:44.320 How different is this spring? He's very different, and it's 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:47.280 just it's another year. It's year two in a system, 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:49.280 especially for a rookie, and he's done. He did a 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:51.960 great job because he was ready to play. From a 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:54.840 mentality standpoint, you know how hard it is when, especially 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:58.160 at quarterback, coming in and learning the verbiage, this system, 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:00.360 being able to call plays and then oh, that's the 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:03.120 NFL pass rush, and then four quarters of that the 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.040 mental wear and tear. He's just he's a different He's 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:07.600 a different guy. He's very confident in what we're asking 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:09.240 to do. He's very confident in our scheme because he 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:12.000 knows it, and that's a huge deal. As for a 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:15.480 quarterback for sure. What do you like most about working 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:19.560 with Michael fleur Um. There's there's a lot of things, 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:22.200 like I just appreciate his his his knowledge of a game, 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:25.200 but I really appreciate how he communicates and um just 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:27.560 sitting in those meetings, whether it's with the unit or 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:30.600 the quarterbacks and just hearing how he verbalizes his thoughts 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:33.880 and how clear concise messages are through cross the boards 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.640 and whoever. So each each meeting you're just hearing things 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:38.520 you're like, okay, and it's everyone's on their toes, but 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:41.440 they're locked in and it's it's meaningful messages. And that's 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:43.720 that's the one thing I appreciate from just being in 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:47.000 those meetings. He was a passing game coordinate or San 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:50.080 Francisco of course before coming over here with Sala from 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:54.760 San Francisco. Uh, what's the dynamics like with you two? Um, 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:57.640 we were closer together. We're in obviously in the quarterback meetings, 0:15:57.720 --> 0:15:59.760 so you know there's times that I have things that 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:01.720 to talk about with these guys, and then he has 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:04.440 his going through the scheme, going through our reads and 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:06.840 we kind of it's a really good mess and gel 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:10.200 with the with the meeting room. It's just we were 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:12.040 able to keep him on our toes because they're switching 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:15.520 and and who's presenting what and what tapeer we're looking 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:17.920 at and then um, just from a game planning at 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:19.120 same point this past year, and you know it is 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:21.040 responsible for certain areas and just being able to go 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:24.040 in his office with confidence on why I like certain 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.920 things because he's such a great communicator. It's not it's 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:28.920 not I'm nervous to bring up a play and he 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:30.920 doesn't like it. He has a way of just making 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:34.560 you feel like this is you're accepted, this is your job, 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:36.480 this is what we're trying to do. We're trying to 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:39.440 win games. And if it's not right, we'll talk about it. 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:41.160 That's the best thing about it. That's the best way 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:42.840 I can put it, Like we could just talk about it. 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:45.600 You know, how cool is it when you guys are 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:48.800 in a game and you feel your quarterback in a 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:51.680 flow and the fleur at the same time and a flow. 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:54.880 Because one thing that I think that he continued to 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:58.280 mention later on in the year was, yeah, you guys 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:02.120 are seeing more also offensively and you're saying I'm being 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:04.879 more creative, But we just needed more places any more plays, 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:07.240 and you need to be on schedule. That's that's that's 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.760 what Zach had learned too. It's now we do. We 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:11.960 do have some schemes and some place that we always 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:13.840 want to get to, but you can't get to it 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:16.680 if you're in not in second and long, or you're 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.560 you're already in passing row down to score. So that's 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:21.439 that's our offense. We need to stay on schedule. We 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:23.120 need be able run the football, and get to our 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:27.960 explosive opportunities, whether it's play pass or gadget plays and um, 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:31.240 there's there's nothing like just you know, on game day 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:32.919 when you see the quarterback in his flow and then 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:35.600 you know, and that's what you always try to visualize. 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:37.639 You know, when you're a position coaches, what is what 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:39.159 is the play call? Are going to call next? And 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:41.320 you guys, if we're in sync and we know what's 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:43.560 coming out of his mouth as far as the play 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:45.760 and the timing and when and when we're attacking, it's 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:48.200 it's it's really cool to watch on fold on Sundays. 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:51.040 So Robert Sale is very happy with you. He said, 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:56.720 this guy is got coordinator potential. He said that yesterday 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.959 your your phone blow up after that a little bit. 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:04.600 My my dad had text me, but because there's a 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:08.240 Newsday article and my brother and my cousins, but I 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:10.280 try not to pay too much attention to that stuff. 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:12.679 And it's it's awesome to hear coach Hollis say that 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:15.199 and and he has that belief, but I have to 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:17.959 go prove it and throughout my coaching career. And you know, 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:20.280