WEBVTT - Rose Matafeo 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:03.880 You have no idea how many young people I have 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:06.600 now got credibility with because of your TV show? Are 0:00:06.600 --> 0:00:09.360 you kidding? It's true? Like the kids think I'm really 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:12.200 cool I do. What a ridiculous thing for you to 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:14.000 say to me. I can't believe you did it. To 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:15.600 be honest, I can't believe I did it. You know, 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:19.079 of course I can't. That'd be ridiculous. There's also me 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:21.120 just going, oh God, let me be in another scene. 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:22.880 Let me be in another scene, and I'm okay. I 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:25.680 suppose you can be in one with Alice on Rosa's 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:28.680 TV show if somebody doesn't show up for work. Alice Sneddon, 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:31.680 who co writes the show with Rose, she this is 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:34.120 basically like this sort of Zelig figure who they can 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:37.760 slot into any scene. And they slotted her into a 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:41.000 scene with me in the next season and it was complete. 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:46.080 Heaven socided, it's gonna be amazing. Can't wait. Hello, I'm 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:50.240 Mini driver and welcome to many questions. I've always loved 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:53.960 Bruce questionnaire. It was originally an eighteenth century parlor game 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:57.440 meant to reveal an individual's true nature, but with so 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:01.080 many questions, there wasn't really an opportunity to expand on anything. 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:04.640 So I took the format of Proof's questionnaire and adapted 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:07.319 What I think are seven of the most important questions 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:11.280 you could ever ask someone. They are when and where 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:15.119 were you happiest? What is the quality you like least 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:20.560 about yourself? What relationship, real or fictionalized, defines love for you? 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:26.279 What question would you most like answered, What person, place, 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:30.520 or experience has shaped you the most? What would be 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:34.360 your last meal? And can you tell me something in 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:37.360 your life that has grown out of a personal disaster. 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:41.120 The more people we ask, the more we begin to 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:44.160 see what makes us similar and what makes us individual. 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:48.200 I've gathered a group of really remarkable people who I 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:50.400 am honored and humbled to have had a chance to 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:55.280 engage with. My guest today are many questions. Is actor 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:59.880 and writer Rose matter Fair. Rose and I both love 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:05.560 George Siegel and both watch a lot of movies. Basically, 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:07.920 I'm just trying to have things in common with her 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:11.080 because I think she's clever and brilliant. She and the 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:14.680 equally genius Alice Nedden wrote the show star Struck, which 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:17.239 is on HBO in the US and BBC three in 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:21.080 the UK, and they had the very pleasing idea to 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:24.560 cast me in the show as well as a terrible person, 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:27.600 which I very much enjoy. It's a really funny show. 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:30.400 I feel like Rose and Alice have the kind of 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:33.920 voices that rise up and over the traffic jam of 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:36.840 comedy shows that abound on every platform. Rose is just 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:41.000 bloody funny and her answer to what question she'd most 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:50.040 like answered is unusual. All right, Angel, I'm gonna crack on. Okay, 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:54.799 first question, when and where were you happiest? I don't 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.480 know if many of your other gifts have difficulty like 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:00.120 identifying when they are happy. I feel like happiness is 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:03.280 like that thing for me that happens peripherally where it's like, 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:06.440 oh oh yeah, and you kind of watch it, kind 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:08.960 of passed you by, And I'm the worst living in 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:12.240 the moment. That concept doesn't exist for me. It's like 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:16.079 every moment is either near future or the just recent past. 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:18.400 There is nothing about living in the moment or I'm 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:21.440 trying to get away from it. So maybe be stuck 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.000 in the moment. I want to get away from that. 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.440 Let that be the past. This now has got to 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:28.200 be the past really fucking fast, really really fast. And 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:30.280 then I can dwell on it. I love dwelling. I 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:32.280 live on the past. I dwell in the past. It's 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.000 my house, my home. I'm going to mortgage in it. 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:37.480 But there are very rare moments where I am very 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:40.320 calm and aware of my surroundings and we're of just 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:42.680 being happy and relaxed. I think the last time I 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:46.080 happened was it was lockdown. Last year. I came back 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:49.040 from London to New Zealand to like watch the world end. 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:53.000 I suppose, you know, figure out what I'm going to 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:54.920 do with my life. I don't have like a family 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:57.320 home in New Zealand or anything, but my Nan does, 0:03:57.400 --> 0:03:58.640 and so I live with my Nan when I go 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:00.440 back to New Zealand. So I live with her for 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:02.360 quite a few months, and it was just me and her, 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:05.400 and it was intense. But there was an afternoon where 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:08.360 I was like in her backyard and it was like sunny. 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:10.720 She's the best man ever. She was like, I put 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:12.560 the hammer cup for your rose, and she made me 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:14.520 sit in the hammock and she furnishes me with all 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:17.440 this stuff. And then she brought over a radio that 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:20.440 was like it was like a crank radio. A crank 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:22.800 radio that was a crank radio, which is also a torch. 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:28.279 It's an emergency it's an emergency torch. And if in radio, 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:33.000 that's the happiest I've been in. So in a hammock 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:37.600 with a crank radio, yeah, playing like Seals and Craft, 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:39.839 I've got the taste of like a six year old 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:41.960 man when it comes to music. It's that kind of 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:45.520 era or like yacht rock, you know, yeah, Kenny Loggin's 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:48.000 all that. Michael McDonald, Oh my god, give me some 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.360 Michael McDonald, Give me some little rubber band or something. 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:53.599 You know, I'm honestly the oldest person alive in my 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:58.560 body currently. I think it's that feeling very like safe, relaxed. 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:00.760 And I don't know if I'm very much an extrovert, 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:02.680 but I love, you know, the feeling of having someone 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:05.480 in the other room pottering. I love that feeling. I 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:08.240 love that too. I think that goes back to childhood. 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:12.440 I really do, the complete safety because it was before 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:15.160 we knew that, like there was absolutely nothing they could 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:17.279 do to stop the apocalypse if it were to happen. 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:19.760 But when you're a child, you think that they could 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.000 exactly the sound of a radio playing in a different 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.120 room as well, and like the sound of someone just 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:29.479 doing chores or like tinkering away. It's so lovely. No, 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.479 I agree, you know, it's so funny. My dad had 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:34.880 some depression later in his life, and when I asked 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.320 him what he did to combat it, he said, well, 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:39.520 you know, the first thing I do in the morning 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:42.800 is go downstairs and put the radio on and then 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:45.440 go back upstairs so I can hear it from upstairs. 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:49.200 And it sort of broke my heart, but I I 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:52.960 actually do it now, even when I'm not depressed. It's 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:56.240 the idea that there is proof of life somewhere in 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.440 the house. Totally. I listened to New Zealand Radio in 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:02.880 London and I feel immediately just calm because it reminds 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:05.560 me of my NaN's house. And when my granddad passed away, 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:08.840 her sister was like, keep the radio on. She was 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:11.000 just like, put the radio on all the time. It's 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:13.039 going to feel like someone's in the house. And she 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:15.920 just did. I think it's really interesting like that idea 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:19.479 of quite literally tuning into a frequency to go okay, 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:22.280 I can sort of be there and it becomes a companion, 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:27.000 it becomes a tether to reality. Totally. It's pure comfort. 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.800 It's really interesting. I rely on my kitchen radio. Yeah, 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:31.360 it's like the thing of like looking at the moon 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:33.080 and then someone else looking at the same moon. It's 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:35.520 like white people watch television, and why people go to 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:38.039 the cinema and why people listen to it's that she 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:40.800 had experience. It's not the same if you put a 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:45.040 playlist on. It's like, there's something so specific and weirdly 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:48.800 unifying about that, isn't it completely So maybe it's about 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:52.159 the creation of community because we're also bleed and isolated. 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:55.200 I think, so there's things that make us feel even 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:57.839 in our isolation. You're still alone when the radio is on, 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:00.640 but you're also not. It's a feeling of going, oh 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:03.000 my god, I'm alive at the same time as you. 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:06.760 It always blows my mind sometimes, you know, and I'm like, 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:10.200 it's kind of incredible when you look around anyone everyone, 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:12.200 You're like, oh my god, we're alive at the same time. 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.320 What are the odds one of the chances? One are 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:16.320 the chances that we are alive at the same time. 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:18.560 I love somebody did celebrities and so I like, you know, 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:21.080 I always get gutted because there's been so many people 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:25.200 in human history and the universe. Is bizarre that you 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:27.800 and I are alive at the same time. It's a 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:31.040 very cool, astonishing thing that I don't think people realized. 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:35.000 I know you you have. I don't mean this is 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.760 an insult, but I think that you have quite a 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:43.160 lot of stone thoughts, completely sober, like you really like 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:47.080 you function at a really stoned level of thinking a 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.680 lot of the time. That's so true, And it's one 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:51.760 of the things I love most about you, because like 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:55.600 you're not smoking weed when we're working and having these conversations. No, no, no, no, 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.280 But with the backdrop, you know, watching the present moment 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:00.600 go by as if it were a bar john a river, 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:04.400 whilst listening to Michael McDonald well marveling that you're alive 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:06.320 at the same time as all the people on that barge. 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:11.720 Like I fucking love you. Oh my god. Don't do drugs, kids, 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:14.560 Just be stoned sober, you know, just do a lot 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:18.000 of overthinking. Just be a pisces either way, that's exactly it. 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:24.440 Just be a pisces al right, So as a place 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:27.360 and then what quality do you like least about yourself? 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:32.959 So many I mean, it's hard to narrow it down. 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:37.120 I'm a very self critical person and that's something that 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:39.040 I think maybe when I was younger, I thought it 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:41.640 was a basset and I'm kind of realizing it's not. 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:44.400 And it's a slight form of self obsession, even though 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:46.839 everyone is obsessed with themselves. But I've kind of built 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:49.640 almost like a career of being self deprecating and I'm 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:52.160 getting to the point now and like, God, there might 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.600 not be a great thing. But I think that's an 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.199 interesting question and that I really do think that everyone 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:01.400 has traits and there is always like equally positive and 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:04.400 negative aspects of them. So I think things that I go, oh, gosh, 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:06.319 I really don't like that about myself. There's always a 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:07.839 flip side of going, well, if I didn't have that, 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.800 I wouldn't have the other thing about me. And the 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.280 thing recently I've realized is that I've got a quick temper. 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:18.080 I can get really angry, and not necessarily other people. 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:20.160 They don't take it down on other people, but I 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:22.880 sound like I'm like in so Wars or something. I've 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:26.200 got a lot of angry inside me sometimes and I 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:28.679 can't control I can't control my emotions very well. I'm 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.440 very bad. I think it controlling my emotions. Me and 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.559 my friend ear where we describe it as living close 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:37.959 to God, Like we're just on the edge. We are 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:40.800 on the edge of our emotions. There is no daring it. 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:45.160 We are living life outward. Okay, wait, I'm also loving. 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:47.640 Hold on, I'm loving that it's taking something like I've 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.280 got a really bad temper. Yeah, but let's call it 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:55.720 being closer to God. I'm a bit of a clep Germania. Okay, 0:09:55.920 --> 0:10:01.800 let's call that stealing. For Jesus, You've got to put 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:04.480 a positive spin on things. You've gotta look on the 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:06.800 bright so I life, Come on, many. I couldn't agree 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:08.560 with you more. And I wonder if that is the 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:10.600 evolution of the awareness of the things that we don't 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:12.880 like about ourselves is by going, well, if I didn't 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:16.559 have this short temper or irritation or whatever it is, 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:19.640 I wouldn't necessarily have this other thing. I don't think 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:21.440 that the things we like, at least about ourselves are 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:25.280 necessarily bad. Genuinely think that they're part of the awful 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:34.959 quilt that we're shrouded in human existence. Oh my god, 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:37.120 the quote do not quote. You could not have made 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:39.360 a more perfect made of for my outlook on life. 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:43.880 It involves craft, and it involves like complete cynicism. I mean, 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:47.239 controlling emotions is hard, but I think it's it's particularly 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:50.920 hard when your your work is about that. It's like 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.319 it's about harnessing it. It's the currency. Yeah, I think 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:56.839 that's what learning the craft of whatever you do is 0:10:57.160 --> 0:11:00.720 doing able to not go absolutely mean to It's a 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:03.240 tight rope walk. I think it's also about figuring out 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:05.440 what the triggers are. I figured out that men with 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:08.720 a particular kind of handshake, we're really problematic. To the 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:10.640 minute I shook hands to them, I was like my 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:15.640 own coach, alright, steady, fill the total dick. You've only 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:17.439 just mear him, but I know you're going to hate him. 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:21.040 Don't let anything he says bother you just ignore him. 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:23.720 And it actually worked. I wish I could do that 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:26.559 with everybody, But I just got lucky realizing that men 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.480 with weird handshakes it's a particular kind of handshake. I 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:32.600 don't know, man instincts. I hate that instincts are often 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:37.959 so correct. It's an annoying thing you want to ignore sometimes. Yeah, 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:39.719 I think maybe that's something I had about myself is 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:43.120 that I do thinks against my bit of chuck. There 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:45.160 is a small rose in me. There is a rose 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.160 in me, and she is so smart and so wide, 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:50.760 so clever, has so many principles. She is strong, she's 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:53.960 a strong rose, but she is tiny one back somewhere 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:56.520 in my hair. Well, you lock her in the bathroom, 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.480 don't you. I mean we all do. With the sentient 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:03.080 person who lives inside us. We often just lock them 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:05.400 in the bathroom and don't let them come out with us. 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:09.720 Exactly right, everyone in the car, not you, not you, 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:13.080 not you smart Rose. All right, so you're gonna ruin tonight? 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:27.520 What question would you most like answered? Oh? My goodness, 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:31.400 does everyone always say, like, what happens after you die? Yeah? 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.920 Pretty much? But it is kind of I don't want 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:36.360 to know. I don't want to know. What question do 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:39.079 you most not want answered? I don't want to know 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:42.160 what happens when you die? Jesus, I don't. I mean, 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:44.800 I'm petrified of death. It's awful. I don't want it 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:48.720 to happen. Death is unacceptable. It is an unacceptable premise 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:52.040 because it's accepting the absence of something. You cannot accept 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.000 the absence of an experience. Do you know what I mean? 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:56.160 I can accept it's going to rain. Oh, I have 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:57.959 to accept the fact that I will not have the 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:01.520 capabilities to accept anything more like a freaking paradox, Like, 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:03.840 what are you talking about? I think it would be 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:07.079 worse to be told because I just don't think anything happens. 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:09.559 I think maybe something happens with the energy and your 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:13.040 body because I was raised by mappies. You know that 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:15.480 goes somewhere, but you're not like, you know, able to 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:17.160 do anything with it. It's just it's probably like the 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:19.160 end of two thousand and one space hodesty or something. 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.160 But if I knew what happened after death, I would 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:24.160 be such a ship human now and be like, oh, 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:27.200 fuck it, Oh I can kick it? And here? Oh 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:30.000 what am I trying to be a good person? Here? God? 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:32.160 Fun now whatever? I'm trying to think of things I 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:35.839 genuinely want to know. I would like to know where 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:39.880 eels come from. Do you know about eels? Tell me? 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:42.880 I mean, look, I didn't I read a headline. I 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:46.040 didn't read the whole article, but I've read something. The 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:50.120 rumor has it eels no one knows where they go. 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:53.360 They don't know where they come from. They don't know 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:59.319 who they read? What do you mean? What do you mean? Many? 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:05.240 They don't don't know where the frick these eels are going. Okay, 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:10.360 I'm googling this ship right now. Where do eels? It's 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:17.160 literally no one knows. Okay, hold on, check it out. Honestly, um, listen, 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:20.640 the new scientists, you're absolutely right. How are baby eels made? 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:23.240 We still don't know. So let me ask you this. 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:26.640 You don't want to know what happens with death because 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:29.280 you don't want desk to happen. And you're annoyed by 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:32.080 that that you're not annoyed by eels. You would like 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:35.480 to know where they come from. So are you quite 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:41.120 conditional about the magic that you want an answer for? Yeah? Basically, 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:43.240 you know what? And even in saying that I want 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:46.840 to know where eels come from, I don't. Honestly, you 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:49.640 know what. If you've got a secret to keep, they're 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:51.320 keeping it for a reason, like we don't need to 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:54.160 know everything. Look, there must be some mystery left from 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:57.040 this world. Embrace the unknown for God's sake. I wish 0:14:57.080 --> 0:15:00.640 I knew what I should not want to know? Do 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:02.680 you know what I mean? Yeah? And just example, change, 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:04.480 just go on, I mean, which must have been basically 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:07.880 everybody in the dark ages. It's like, oh my god, yeah, 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:11.040 what is that white light in the sky. I'll never 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:14.560 know what that thing at night is, the big round 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:18.480 silver thing, bizarre, don't need to know. It's on a 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:20.920 need to know basis, And honey, you are not on 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:23.480 the list. You are not on the list. But now, yeah, 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:25.680 I think that knowing what happens after you die, it 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:28.200 just it sucks. It sucks. I don't know that it 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:31.360 would make now any better, that's see anything. I don't 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:33.480 think it wor was. I don't think it would change 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:37.280 because we can't stop. I'd rather know how to stop 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:41.640 the dying thing. Oh god, that'd be brilliant. I would 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.720 even take knowing how to stop worrying about the dying thing. 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:49.960 Oh that's good, because to worry about something that is 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:52.880 not in your control is irrational. And that's the worst 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:56.440 thing about being human and being capable of understanding your 0:15:56.440 --> 0:16:01.240 own death. We've been cursed with the ability to know 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.080 that we will one day die, and it's like it 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:07.520 can be a kind of galvanizing you know, energy of Well, 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:11.160 I was going to say I would be extremely unmotivated 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:15.520 if I didn't worry about death so much. That's true, 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.920 that's so frea control. Actually, you know what, that's a 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:24.600 really good point. Death the great motivating mentorm All right, 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:33.560 get off your as bed exactly. Okay, slightly more in 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:35.840 the here and now, but also to do with death, 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:38.280 what would be your last meal? Thank you so much 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.080 for asking. Yes, so welcome. I think about this often 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:44.400 because mainly I got really obsist with the last meals 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:46.680 of serial killers on death row for a while. You know, 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:49.480 my son was also very interested in that. It's usually 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:52.120 fried chicken. Like if I were on family feuds, that 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:55.280 would be number one that I would make everybody say, 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:58.320 always frey chicken, or like I think often the default meal, well, 0:16:58.360 --> 0:16:59.960 if you don't ask, or something is like a row 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:02.840 speak dinner or something I think Ted Bundy like didn't 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:05.439 eaters or something like that. I don't know, Like I 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:07.280 need to stop reading about this kind of stuff. One 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:11.200 guy just chose one single P. That's where I mean, 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:13.640 that's the most annoying. How can you be annoying all 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:18.160 the way up? I think you can one P to wait, 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:20.760 do you then compare what you would like to these 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:23.760 serial killers and what they like and try and find. Well, 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:26.600 I use it as a basis. Yeah, I'm like, well, 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:29.159 you know, if I was really because I think you 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:31.480 could go with something you know, sentimental or something you 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:36.480 know my nan made. But honestly, Bartomy is like I 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:39.560 want pizza heart, but the way they did it in 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:43.560 the nineties where they like essentially fried the crusts and oil, 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:49.080 which was basically boarderline illegal, And I want to meet 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:53.120 love those pizza at one point five bottle of pepsi 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:56.360 and some chocolate moss because I think by the end 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:59.080 of eating that I would want to die, but be ready. 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.119 I don't want to eat like a light meal. I 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:04.200 don't need sushimi. I don't need to light meal before 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:06.040 I die. Get me to the point where I'm like, 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:08.600 you know what it would you all forded sort of 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:11.199 pass on to the next stage after this, You'd be 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:13.480 quite surprised how many people are like, you know, if 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:16.159 I knew it was my last meal, I would barely 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:21.280 be able to eat. And it's like, well, well, also, 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:23.800 what if you didn't know that it was your last meal? 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:27.240 Exactly if heaven existed and when you die and you 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.080 look back on the you know, sort of highlights really 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:30.840 your last day, and you see that you had like 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:33.960 a pritty sandwich or something, You're like, but no, why 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:36.840 did I eat that? May be so gutted. In fact, 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:40.280 that's why I hate eating those yogurts that are like, 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:44.639 you know, a billion acidophilus whatever it is, because it 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:46.480 makes me, first of all, it makes me feel like 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:49.840 there's a billion creatures in my cart. But also I 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:52.639 would hate the irony of doing something for my health 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:55.560 right before I die, because then it would just be 0:18:55.760 --> 0:19:00.440 another lyric in Alanis Morissette song It's as a list 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:04.360 right before you die. I mean, it's the whole thing 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:06.480 of wearing a good pair of knickers because you might 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:09.600 get hit or something, and you tracking. I had a 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:11.960 stand up joke and years ago from a very genuine 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:13.960 fair and something that actually happened to me being on 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:17.360 a plane and really specifically deciding what film that you're 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:20.159 watching because somebody scared of flying. I don't want that 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:22.399 plane to go down and I die, and my mom's like, 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:25.280 what was the last thing she was watching? And then 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:28.639 it would just be like Despicable me too. It's like, 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:30.600 you don't want to you don't want that that to 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:33.760 be the final one, you know, you want to watch 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:35.840 something pointed and happened. I went. I was on a 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:38.480 flight to Japan ones and a plane like experienced engine 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:40.480 failure and I was like, holy sh it. I was alone. 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:42.680 I was like, well, this could be it. But I 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:45.760 didn't have any song saved my phone or anything. So 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:47.920 as we were landing and as I was like really 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:49.800 aware of the fact that this might be the last 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:52.280 thing that I might experience on this as well, the 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:57.280 song I picked to potentially die too was Pig by 0:19:57.359 --> 0:20:03.199 Steely Dan. Like what and like what? But you know 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:07.200 what I stick by it, Like to Bob, it's a Bob. 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:14.879 Oh my god, that is fantastic. Pig Yeah, Pig, just 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:18.040 those harmonies and just going down. But that's a sly 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:21.359 one because they arguably that is a great song, even 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:24.240 though there's just so much reference to kind of underage 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:27.240 women and drugs and Stevie Dan. I just have you 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:33.200 know the Queveld Gold funk God love. Do you know 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:35.360 how hard it is to be a twenty nine year 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:38.520 old woman living in one and all of my favorite 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:41.640 films being made like the sixties and seventies. I've got 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:45.680 the most problematic sort of list of texts that are 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:49.119 my favorite others. But also we've established that you're a 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:51.840 six year old man in a twenty nine year old 0:20:51.920 --> 0:21:05.760 body with a bunch of other personalities locked in the bathroom. Okay, 0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:12.320 so what relationship, real or fictionalized defined love fear? I mean, 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:15.000 I I love love. It's like an interest of mine. 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:17.000 You know, I'm not successful in it, but I love 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:19.199 the concept of it and others having it one that 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:21.680 I can really think of, which is so silly. When 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:23.520 I was younger, I used to have like a celebrity 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:25.560