WEBVTT - Accelerating Acceptance

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, peeps, and welcome to OKP Daily with Meet

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<v Speaker 1>your Girl Danielle Moody recording pre recording from the Home Bunker. Folks,

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<v Speaker 1>we are off celebrating the Labor Day holiday, but as

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<v Speaker 1>always we leave you with fantastic interviews that we pre recorded,

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<v Speaker 1>and today I am very happy to bring you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a follow up to yesterday's interview with Nadia with

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<v Speaker 1>Shane Diamond. Shane is a consultant at GLAD and spoke

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<v Speaker 1>to us about the importance of their Here We Are campaign,

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<v Speaker 1>which highlights trans people's stories and the fullness of who

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<v Speaker 1>they are. Like I said yesterday, it is too often

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<v Speaker 1>that whenever we're talking about trans people, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>horrific policies that are being put out to dehumanize them.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about the deaths of black trans women. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about their lives in terms of tragedy as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to the fullness of who these people actually are. And

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<v Speaker 1>we have to understand that narratives matter, right, stories matter,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is why this campaign is so important and

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<v Speaker 1>why I was so thankful for Shane and Nadia to

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<v Speaker 1>stop bi WOKF to talk to us about the importance

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<v Speaker 1>of sharing story and the importance of you know, GLAD

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<v Speaker 1>as an organization and ensuring that people see full and

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<v Speaker 1>complete narratives about queer people and not just what the

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<v Speaker 1>right right wants people to see and rather wants people

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<v Speaker 1>to be afraid of. So coming up next my conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with GLAD consultant Shane Diamond, Folks, I am very happy

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<v Speaker 1>to welcome to wok AP Daily Shane Diamond, who is

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<v Speaker 1>a consultant at GLAD on transgender advocacy and have been

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<v Speaker 1>a part of the Here We Are campaign. Shane talk

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<v Speaker 1>to us about Glad's decision to move into this space

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<v Speaker 1>of telling trans stories from a trans perspective, like having

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<v Speaker 1>people talk about themselves as opposed to being talked at.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great question, and thank you for having me

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<v Speaker 2>on the podcast. Big fan and really grateful to be

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<v Speaker 2>part of this discussion with you. Todayson, thank you. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been consulting with GLAD in this transgender advocacy position for

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<v Speaker 2>about a year and this project, this campaign called here

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<v Speaker 2>We Are is part of a larger LGBTQ metaging project

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<v Speaker 2>that GLAD is undertaking in part because our CEO and

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<v Speaker 2>executive director, Sarah Kate ellis recognize that there's just a

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<v Speaker 2>lack of positive trans stories and storytelling that is coming

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<v Speaker 2>from trans people ourselves, and this campaign specifically has been

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<v Speaker 2>a a storytelling campaign. How does it look? What does

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<v Speaker 2>it feel like when we put trans people in the

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<v Speaker 2>driver's seat and let them let us tell our own

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<v Speaker 2>stories and be It's been a research project to see

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<v Speaker 2>if the way that we are telling these stories actually

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<v Speaker 2>changes how people think about trans people.

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<v Speaker 1>And want you to tell me there was a time,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm old so I can say this, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a time when I remember when folks would ask how

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<v Speaker 1>many of you know a person that is and it

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<v Speaker 1>was at the time lesbian, are gay or bisexual? And

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<v Speaker 1>it was in the teens the teens of percentage in

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<v Speaker 1>number of people. Now when you ask people how many

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<v Speaker 1>folks know somebody that is LGBTQ plus, I believe it

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<v Speaker 1>is in like the eighty or ninety percentile. What is

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<v Speaker 1>that number for trans people specifically? Do you know? And

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<v Speaker 1>how has it grown over the years.

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<v Speaker 2>I do know the answer to that, and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>very interesting one.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So GLAD every year conducts a survey called Accelerating Acceptance

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<v Speaker 2>to see where we are as a country in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of LGBTQ acceptance. So some of the questions on this

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<v Speaker 2>year's Accelerating Acceptance Survey, we're about, like what should we

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<v Speaker 2>talk about in schools? Like should kids have access to

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<v Speaker 2>safe schools? And in twenty twenty three, we asked non

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<v Speaker 2>LGBTQ people how many of them knew someone who is transgender,

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<v Speaker 2>and over seventy percent of participants said they did not

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<v Speaker 2>know someone who is transgender. And I just like to

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<v Speaker 2>sort of caveat that with they don't know someone that

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<v Speaker 2>transgender that they know of. So, because this is a podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a white guy with some scruffy facial hair and

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<v Speaker 2>a bad mustache, and I'm wearing like very hipster glasses

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<v Speaker 2>and a buzz cut and two little gold earrings and

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<v Speaker 2>like a button down shirt with pineapples on it. And

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<v Speaker 2>so if someone met me on the street, they might

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<v Speaker 2>not assume that I'm transgender, right right, So I have

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<v Speaker 2>the privilege of being assumed cisgender. And when when I

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<v Speaker 2>talk about sisgender, it is someone who's gender identity who

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<v Speaker 2>they know themselves to be on the inside, matches the

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<v Speaker 2>sex they were assigned at Earth. So if you see

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<v Speaker 2>me on the street or on the sidewalk or at

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<v Speaker 2>a coffee shop, you might not guess that I'm trans, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So when we say that seventy plus percent of Americans

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<v Speaker 2>don't know someone that's transgender, it's always that they know

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<v Speaker 2>of because the reality is that trans people are here.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in communities. We've been here, you know. We're holding

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<v Speaker 2>down jobs, we're back in groceries, we're trying at parallel park,

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<v Speaker 2>we're having families, having kids. And it is still kind

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<v Speaker 2>of surprising that so many people say they don't know

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<v Speaker 2>someone who's transgender, given that we are in communities all

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<v Speaker 2>of this country.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that to that point, it is because

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<v Speaker 1>of the fact that not everybody leads with their transness

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<v Speaker 1>right like, So if you are a person like to

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<v Speaker 1>your point, that is, and I'll use the term passing right,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning that I would look and be like, Okay, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a guy in a pineapple shirt, as I think that

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<v Speaker 1>most people would. If I'm not being told directly that

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<v Speaker 1>then you are trans, I could understand. I guess the

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<v Speaker 1>numbers and how that kind of works. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>there was a point in the accelerating acceptance of reporting

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the years where I think that one of the

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<v Speaker 1>questions was do you know I have an LGBTQ person

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<v Speaker 1>in your family, which I think then becomes like a

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<v Speaker 1>bit more specific, right, because then I have intimate knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>of said person, as opposed to do I know anyone

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<v Speaker 1>right exist in the world. Why do you think that

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<v Speaker 1>it is so important to have campaigns like this that

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<v Speaker 1>expressly offer narrative around the different stories and the different

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<v Speaker 1>ways in which people see themselves as trans.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to back us up just for a

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<v Speaker 2>hot second, because it's very common usage to say, like

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<v Speaker 2>someone is cispassing. And I said this in conversation with

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<v Speaker 2>a colleague at GLAD who called me in and corrected

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<v Speaker 2>me around the history of passing as a term, and

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<v Speaker 2>that we know the term passing is traditionally historically referred

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<v Speaker 2>to light skinned black black people who are passing for white.

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<v Speaker 2>And in this language where sort of it becomes the goal,

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<v Speaker 2>whiteness becomes the goal, it becomes that the position of power.

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<v Speaker 2>And so if we say someone is passing is white passing,

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<v Speaker 2>it is putting more power into white supremacy. And so

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<v Speaker 2>as we talk about being cis passing, it makes it

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<v Speaker 2>seem like the goal. The goal is to appearance, yeah

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<v Speaker 2>is being cis and that cis being cisgender inherently has

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<v Speaker 2>more power and privilege and is thus desired by trans people.

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<v Speaker 1>And I appreciate that. Please continue.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, just you know, it's like we live in

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<v Speaker 2>a country right now where medical access for trans care

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<v Speaker 2>is being banned, and so not every trans person is

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<v Speaker 2>interested in seeking to medically transition, and even for those

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<v Speaker 2>who are interested, they're unable to do so depending on

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<v Speaker 2>where they live. So thinking more about being assumed.

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<v Speaker 1>To be cis gender, got it? Okay, But that was.

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<v Speaker 2>Something that passed on to me because I would I

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<v Speaker 2>said all the time that I was cis passing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh okay, I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>If we look at some of the statistics and we

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<v Speaker 2>see that over seventy percent of people say they don't

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<v Speaker 2>know someone who's transgender, how do we make these introductions

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<v Speaker 2>in a way that can do it on a large scale,

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<v Speaker 2>can do it effectively, and can keep trans people safe

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<v Speaker 2>in the process. Like I know, if you drop me

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<v Speaker 2>in any room, give me ten fifteen minutes, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>can change people's minds on what they think about trans

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<v Speaker 2>people or what it means to be transgender also entire

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<v Speaker 2>and like there's only one of these, thank goodness, And

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<v Speaker 2>so how do we do this on a larger scale

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<v Speaker 2>but also keeps trans people safe? And so much of

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<v Speaker 2>what we've heard and seen about trans people historically is

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<v Speaker 2>trans people who are playing like a tertiary character in

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<v Speaker 2>a show. And it's a lot of dead sex workers

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, people who are addicted to drugs, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's not the narrative for all trans people. And so

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<v Speaker 2>how do we put trans people, as I said, in

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<v Speaker 2>the driver's seat, to tell their own stories and to

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<v Speaker 2>tell their own stories of love and joy and happiness.

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<v Speaker 2>And what affect does this have on people who are

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<v Speaker 2>learning about trans people for the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>I will share with you that my parents have asked me.

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<v Speaker 1>My mother owns a yoga studio and one of her

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<v Speaker 1>students was in the midst of transitioning and was talking

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<v Speaker 1>to her about it. They know that her daughter is

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<v Speaker 1>queer and so you know readily more you know, accepting

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<v Speaker 1>than other people. And my parents were just like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>help us understand, help us understand and be better in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of how we talk and have conversations around this

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<v Speaker 1>idea of trans, non binary and what have you. And

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<v Speaker 1>what I appreciated about that is that, like, my parents

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<v Speaker 1>are boomers, and for them they were socialized in a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of way, but because their daughter is queer, they're

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<v Speaker 1>much more expansive in their thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>And so.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you utilize these different stories to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>move people who are seemingly assumed to be rigid in

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<v Speaker 1>their thinking, but they literally just don't know right. They

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<v Speaker 1>just want they want more access to language, they want

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<v Speaker 1>more access to stories so that they can begin to

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<v Speaker 1>wrap their minds around how our society has shifted over

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<v Speaker 1>the last you know, several decades.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that question is really at the heart of

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<v Speaker 2>some of the research and some of the questions we

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to answer ourselves in putting together this campaign and

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<v Speaker 2>this narrative framework. We have been working with ground Media

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<v Speaker 2>on this project for years. Glad and ground Media work

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<v Speaker 2>together on a video campaign two years ago, and they've

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<v Speaker 2>been just a joy to work with and they have

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<v Speaker 2>been spearheading a lot of the research and also the production.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you see the videos and you're like, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>this is wonderfully made, that is all thanks to ground Media.

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<v Speaker 2>But your question about like, how do we with seemingly

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<v Speaker 2>well meeting audiences, how do we help close that gap,

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<v Speaker 2>that knowledge gap, that experience gap in a way that's

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<v Speaker 2>not like you're terrible, we hate you because you got

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<v Speaker 2>this thing wrong. And that's been a lot of what

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<v Speaker 2>this research has been targeted on is what are the

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<v Speaker 2>necessary components in a story being told by a trans

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<v Speaker 2>person in thirty or sixty seconds that can effectively communicate

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<v Speaker 2>their transness and why people should care. And so our

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<v Speaker 2>hypothesis with this really was on the theme of trans truth,

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<v Speaker 2>which is being trans is a real thing. It's not contagious,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not communicable, it's not a whim that being trans

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<v Speaker 2>is as inherent a part of my identity as so

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<v Speaker 2>many other things as being Jewish. As I id, I

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<v Speaker 2>played college hockey, so I will always identify as a

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<v Speaker 2>hockey player, and being trans is an inherent, immute part

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<v Speaker 2>of my identity. And so we came at this trying

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<v Speaker 2>to speak to audiences who were undecided about their opinion

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<v Speaker 2>of trans people. So we asked audiences, we did a

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<v Speaker 2>huge survey before we started, do you think society has

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<v Speaker 2>gone too far or not far enough in their support

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<v Speaker 2>of transgender people? And what we identified as the movable

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<v Speaker 2>or winnable middle were people who responded in the like

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<v Speaker 2>three to seven on a one to ten scale. So

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<v Speaker 2>the way I think about this is, have you ever

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<v Speaker 2>seen Olympic diving?

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<v Speaker 1>I love Olympic diving actually, but yes, good.

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<v Speaker 2>My gosh, I my body does not move like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand how they enter the warder with no splash,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's got the point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in Olympic diving, they throw out you get seven scores,

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<v Speaker 2>and the judges throughout the highest of those score, so

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<v Speaker 2>you're only evaluated on the middle five. And that is

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<v Speaker 2>who are target audiences for this campaign. It's also how

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<v Speaker 2>I try to live by life, like, some people are

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<v Speaker 2>going to think I'm greater than slice bread and they

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<v Speaker 2>are wrong. And some people are going to think I'm

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<v Speaker 2>worse than a paper cut, and they are also wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>And the more that I spin my wheels trying to

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<v Speaker 2>change the opinions of those on the margins, the more

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<v Speaker 2>time I'm getting disheartened and dissuaded by what I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 2>or what I'm not seeing. So you were talking about

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<v Speaker 2>parents were boomers, And the way that we identified this

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<v Speaker 2>winnable middle audience is based on this question of do

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<v Speaker 2>you think society has gone too far or not far

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<v Speaker 2>enough in their support of trans people? And when we

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<v Speaker 2>looked closer at who was in this segment, we see

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<v Speaker 2>people from across the political spectrum. We see people who

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<v Speaker 2>have varied ages, who live all over the country, with

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<v Speaker 2>different levels of income and education. And so by cutting

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<v Speaker 2>this according to issue and not according to political party

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<v Speaker 2>or political ideology, we're able to cast a much wider

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<v Speaker 2>net in who the people are that we're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>move And before we ask people to do something different,

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<v Speaker 2>to behave differently around trans people, to practice better ally,

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<v Speaker 2>ship tips, to do their own research, before we're asking

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<v Speaker 2>the trans people that we meet about their identity in

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<v Speaker 2>their lives, we need to change how people think about

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<v Speaker 2>trans people. And our guess was that if we can

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<v Speaker 2>show people show audiences that being trans is, as you said,

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<v Speaker 2>just another part of someone's identity, are they more or

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<v Speaker 2>less likely to support a friend or a family member

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<v Speaker 2>who's trans, a child who's trands and sort of tertiarily like,

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<v Speaker 2>are they more likely to support policies that benefit trans people?

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<v Speaker 2>And across the board. Our research is showing that yes

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<v Speaker 2>to all of these things, that if we can change

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<v Speaker 2>how audiences think and understand trans people. In thirty or

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<v Speaker 2>sixty seconds, we see a positive increase in how likely

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<v Speaker 2>people are to accept a friend, a family member, a child,

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<v Speaker 2>an acquaintance who's transgender, and increase in their support for

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<v Speaker 2>policies that affect trans people, all by just talking about

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<v Speaker 2>trans people as people who have hobbies and jobs and

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<v Speaker 2>families and lives, love and goals like everyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I think that, Look, the opposition knows this

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<v Speaker 1>that if I feed you enough stereotypes, if I feed

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<v Speaker 1>you enough fear, then I too can shift how you're

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about people as people. Right, I too can feed

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<v Speaker 1>you this steady diet of dehumanization, so that when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes time to vote on said policy or to vote

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<v Speaker 1>on said measure, that that's the narrative that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be stuck in your mind. And so what you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>with this campaign is a disruption because in the absence

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<v Speaker 1>of being able to provide people from their perspective and

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<v Speaker 1>give them voice and platform to tell their own stories,

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<v Speaker 1>then their stories are told for them. And we know

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<v Speaker 1>that when those stories are told for them, they're told

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<v Speaker 1>in the negative. Shane with a couple of minutes that

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<v Speaker 1>we have left. As we're several weeks away from the

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<v Speaker 1>most consequential election in our lives. What do you want

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<v Speaker 1>people to think about when they are voting? What do

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<v Speaker 1>you want them to think about when they're voting with

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<v Speaker 1>regard to you know, there have been five hundred plus

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<v Speaker 1>anti trans bills that have popped up across this country.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been so much in terms of trying to dehumanize

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<v Speaker 1>and denigrate this population. What is it that you're hoping

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<v Speaker 1>that this campaign will bring to mind as people are

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<v Speaker 1>voting for, you know, the future?

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<v Speaker 2>Casual question to end us on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm good at that.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. I truly believe that we are all

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<v Speaker 2>capable of good and of love. I don't think people

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<v Speaker 2>are good people are bad people. I think we are

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<v Speaker 2>people who are full of a myriad of sometimes conflicting

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<v Speaker 2>beliefs or ideas. But I believe that we all think

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<v Speaker 2>that we're good people. And one of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>this campaign is really trying to disrupt is those among

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<v Speaker 2>us who believe they're good people, who believe they have

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<v Speaker 2>good intentions, who believe they're doing the right thing, and

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<v Speaker 2>still hold anti transgender or anti LGBTQ beliefs, and part

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<v Speaker 2>of this work is showing that those two things you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't necessarily have all the values that you think

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<v Speaker 2>you have and also believe in discrimination and trans people

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<v Speaker 2>are we are the lowest on the food chain in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of privilege and access and rights, and when we

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<v Speaker 2>all have equal rights and equal protections, it benefits everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>And that starts with those of us on the margins

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<v Speaker 2>or who hold intersectional identities. We need to focus on

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<v Speaker 2>those of us on the margins, lifting all of us up,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's how we achieve equitable just societies. So, as

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<v Speaker 2>people are coming into this election, there is so much

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<v Speaker 2>discord around this candidate or that candidate, and people who

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<v Speaker 2>are saying, I don't like either candidate and so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to vote this other way. And so what I

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<v Speaker 2>ask people to do when we go into the election

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<v Speaker 2>is not only to think about how the results of

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<v Speaker 2>this election are going to affect your life, but how

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<v Speaker 2>are the results of this election going to affect the

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<v Speaker 2>lives of those that you love? Yep, Because there are

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<v Speaker 2>two very very different possible outcomes, and a number of

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<v Speaker 2>people in this country will not be affected dramatically one

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<v Speaker 2>way or the other, but for the majority of us,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not the case. And so if you're coming into

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<v Speaker 2>the election and you're thinking about how how you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to vote, think about those in your community that you love,

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<v Speaker 2>and also just please vote. You know, I think we

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<v Speaker 2>had like forty percent of registered voters or people of

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<v Speaker 2>voting age in twenty twenty who didn't vote, and that

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<v Speaker 2>that could decide the election. So if you're if you're

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<v Speaker 2>not registered to vote, please register to vote. It varies

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<v Speaker 2>by state, and vote early and vote often if you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Because this is this is our bed and we got

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<v Speaker 2>to make it and then we got to sleep in it.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't do this by ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Shane, thank you so much for your work. It

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<v Speaker 1>is extremely important, and thank you very much for making

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<v Speaker 1>the time for WOKA. If really appreciate this and your

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<v Speaker 1>conversation Danielle.

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<v Speaker 2>This has been a true joy. Thank you and for

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<v Speaker 2>all the listeners. The campaign can be found at herewe

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<v Speaker 2>Are now dot com. You can see videos and stories

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<v Speaker 2>from Nadia at GEO and Ashton as they sit down

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<v Speaker 2>with their families and talk about what it means to

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<v Speaker 2>be trans and what it means to love trans people,

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<v Speaker 2>which is not all that different from guessing many of

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<v Speaker 2>our own lives.

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<v Speaker 1>That is it for me today. Dear friends on Woke

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<v Speaker 1>af AS always, power to the people and to all

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<v Speaker 1>the people. Power, get woke and stay woke as fuck.