1 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly, he 5 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson and Matt Mike Tomlin asked today 6 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: after practice if he's ready to name a starter yet. 7 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 2: He said, no, there's no competitive event. It serves no purpose. 8 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 3: For us, flat out. Kane Clean said, why would I bother? 9 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 2: You know, why why would he? But he did say 10 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: that both Russell Wilson and Justin Fields were full participants 11 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: at practice today. That's unsurprising, Yes, but there's there's plenty 12 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: of video out there that shows that Russell Wilson was 13 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 2: taking first team snaps. 14 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean even I think it was Tom Pellosorrow 15 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: or whatever said Wilson's going to start. 16 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: Well, I think for the last oh, I don't know, month, 17 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: and certainly the last few days we were talking about 18 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: that Russell Wilson going to start this game. No surprise 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: there and so, and I credit Jim Wexel with this. 20 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 2: People are going crazy over this. Can't believe he's benching 21 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: the four and two quarterback? What are we doing this 22 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: has never happened before. It's happened in Steelers history, folks. 23 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 2: Nineteen seventy four. Yeah, fifty year anniversary. In fact of 24 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 2: this happening every fifty years, it happened. Nineteen seventy four. 25 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: Joe Gillim starts the season for the Pittsburgh Steelers coming 26 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: out of training camp. There's a player strike that year, 27 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: Terry Bradshaw held out. Chuck Noll decides to go with 28 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 2: Joe Gillim as his quarterback. To Steelers are for to 29 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: one and one in their first six games, and Chuck 30 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: Doles says, you know what, Terry. 31 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 3: You're the quarterbacks. Huh win this go in it all? Yeah, 32 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: there you have it now. It doesn't happen often in history. 33 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 3: Of course, you know, teams with winning records switching quarterbacks. 34 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 3: But this isn't switching quarterbacks. If it would have been 35 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: Week one, nobody would have been an eye, right. 36 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: You know. 37 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 3: And if he would have been healthy, he would have 38 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 3: been the Week one starter, you know. 39 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was named the starter at the beginning of 40 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: the season. Then he got hurt, hasn't been available right. 41 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: Last week was the first time he practiced in full 42 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 2: for the week and now Tomlin's moving forward back with 43 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: his starting quarterback. 44 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think it's a right move. I mean, 45 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: it's not a knock on field. Fields did well. He'll 46 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: probably see the field again some capacity. I think you 47 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 3: learned a lot more about fields as well. But Wilson 48 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 3: is more experienced, and I bet we see that on 49 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 3: the field. 50 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: I would bet so as well. 51 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 52 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't tell you what I saw at practice today, 53 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: but I liked what I saw practice today. 54 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 3: Good, good good. 55 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 2: I'm just saying Sunday night, just saying, yeah, so we 56 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: moved forward with this thing. I do believe that Justin 57 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: Fields will have some type of participation against the New 58 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: York Jets. That was the plan going into the season. 59 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: We talked about it. Yeah, it's got the day Russell 60 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 2: or the day Justin Field signed with the Steelers or 61 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: was traded to by the Steelers, I said, I would 62 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: have a package for this guy. Yeah, and I'm therefore 63 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: that's something that they've you know, talked about in training camp. 64 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,399 Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, well now you have, you know exactly 65 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: what his strengths are. You got to see your. 66 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 3: Pasage who he's got the whole playbook to work with right, 67 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: you know. I mean you could build special things per 68 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: you know, per opponent or whatever. It doesn't mean it's 69 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: coming and run every time. 70 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: Every snap you can have him drop back and throw. 71 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 72 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, they want to overload and try to you know, 73 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: Oh he's gonna he's coming in the run. 74 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 3: No, not necessarily, not sure it can. 75 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's it's kind of the best of both worlds. 76 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: I think. So assuming Wilson plays as well as we expect, 77 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 3: you know, I mean, this isn't an easy opponent, and 78 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: I think he's going to be more than ready, and 79 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: he's probably chomping at the bit in order to get 80 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 3: in there. I mean, I'm sure sitting on being on 81 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 3: the sidelines was not easy for him, or his ego 82 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: or any of that kind of stuff. I'm sure he's 83 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: competitive and wants to play, but I expect everything to 84 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: be crisper, you know, and especially the passing game. 85 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, particularly the passing game. And I think this is 86 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 2: going to unlock some things within the passing game that 87 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: we haven't seen yet. 88 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 89 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think George Pickens is going to be very happy. 90 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: I would think. 91 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: I think the other receivers who have kind of been 92 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: ignored to this point to a large degree, are going 93 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: to be excited because I think what having a veteran 94 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 2: quarterback in there does. And again, no, this is no 95 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: knock on Justin fields. But he doesn't throw guys open 96 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: like Russell Wilson. 97 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 3: Will assume, right, Yeah, as well as distributing the ball, 98 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 3: getting everybody involved, taking what the defense gives you. I mean, 99 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 3: that's that's not a cliche phrase. I mean, there is 100 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 3: no perfect defense. There's a weakness to every Everyone stematically 101 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 3: or everybody run the same defense, you know, so you pick. 102 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: I mean like in this instance, it doesn't look good 103 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 3: for Sauce Gardner's gonna play, but doesn't look good for 104 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 3: their next two corners of the Jets. So maybe it's 105 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: more of an Austin Jefferson game than you would originally thought, 106 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. 107 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: And that's something that we haven't seen. We've seen Austin 108 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 2: have one good game, but we haven't seen those guys utilized, 109 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 2: I think, to their to their best potential. Yeah, yeah, 110 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 2: and I get it. Everybody wants another receiver. The Steelers 111 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 2: would like to get an upgrade at wide receiver, But 112 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: that doesn't mean that Van Jefferson and Calvin Austin can't 113 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 2: play in the NFL or can't get open or can't 114 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: get open or do all those things. I just don't 115 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 2: think they've had many opportunities thus far. 116 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 3: Right, I don't think either one's ever go into Pro 117 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: Bowls or going to be special players or whatever. But 118 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: they're on the field a lot, and if you don't 119 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 3: utilize them, you become too easy to play against. 120 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: Right, It's okay, it's all pickens and farnmouth centric in 121 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: the passing game. Well, yeah, you're right, that makes you 122 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: too easy to play against. 123 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: Right, If not that the defense is going to ignore 124 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,559 Speaker 3: those guys or not cover them. But if you're playing 125 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 3: five on five hoops and that dude never shoots, never 126 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 3: get the ball. 127 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 2: He's just standing over there to three point lone, hoping 128 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: here and there, he's standing under the basket. He makes 129 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: a cut to the basket and nobody goes with him, 130 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: and he's going, hey, and nobody throws them the ball. 131 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 3: Use the whole court, yeah, right, Or you know the 132 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 3: skater that doesn't shoot, ever shoot the pot, you know, like, 133 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 3: what are you doing? 134 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 4: You know? 135 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you look at it through the 136 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: first six games. Van Jefferson has eight catches for sixty 137 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: two yards. Calvin Austin has ten catches for one hundred 138 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: and sixty seven yards, but most of that came in 139 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 2: was was in one game. I mean, he has a 140 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: fifty five yard touchdown catch. They've been underutilized. They just 141 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: have they have and again we're what I claim in 142 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: their superstar. The offense should go through them. But you 143 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: got to have they're better than that. 144 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 3: Ye had to say. I think you'd have to have 145 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: more than a target or two per game. 146 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: I can tell you for a fact, on the play 147 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: that Justin Fields rolled to his right, crossed the line 148 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: of scrimmage, and through the touchdown pass back across his 149 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: body to friar move and it went for Touchdobody got 150 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: called back as he began rolling to his right. Calvin 151 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: Austen is standing in the end zone, in the corner 152 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: of the end zone to the side that he's rolling to, 153 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: not on the other side beside that he's rolling to 154 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: by himself. I could have thrown it. Yeah, yeah, it 155 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: was a ten yard pass, but out before the line, right, 156 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: you know, right, and he never he never Fields never 157 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: saw him. Now that happens. Of course, that happened to 158 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: Joe Montana, that right, miss guys. But I just think 159 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: sometimes in some of these instances, and this again no 160 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: knock on fields, but I think he's gotten so pickens 161 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: firemouth centric at times, knowing that those are my top 162 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: two guys, I got to go to them and sometimes 163 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: you ignore the others. 164 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 3: I don't know is but I have a hunch. How 165 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 3: does he go through his reads get to the third 166 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 3: guy right? You know, because you're going to devise more 167 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 3: first read things for picking the fire move. Of course, 168 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: that's what the league does. You don't do it for 169 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: your fourth receiver as often, you know, so and that's earned, 170 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 3: you know, you scheme it up for your best guy. 171 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 3: I mean, that's just football. But does he ever get 172 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 3: the number three right? That's what we don't or does 173 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 3: he take off on that or do they tell him 174 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 3: They might tell him that two out there go to 175 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 3: you're on your own, you know, tucking and run. I 176 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: mean Jayden Daniels early in the season his rookie year, 177 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 3: if he felt any pressure, he just ran it. Clearly 178 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 3: coached him to do that, you know, and it works. 179 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: I just I mean, there was another play where Connor 180 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: Hayward's wide open to his I think it was actually 181 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 2: on dan Or Lawski's It was a scramble up the middle, 182 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: and he said, well, these are hidden yards. 183 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 4: You know. 184 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 2: That could have been a sack back there for minus seven. 185 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: But he gains fourteen yards on the run, So therefore 186 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: that's twenty one lost yards at the Steelers offense is 187 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 2: going to have to make up. Meanwhile, Connor Hayward's standing 188 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 2: over along the sidelines one right here, I am. 189 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 3: You don't know that Wilson's going to take a sack there, right, 190 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 3: I mean he. 191 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 2: He might get the ball out and throw at the 192 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: Connor Heyward. 193 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, for a bigger game, maybe run, throw a touchdown 194 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 3: or whatever maybubbles, who knows what happened? Again, right, there's 195 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 3: a different way of playing quarterback. It's you're allowed to 196 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 3: throw the football again. I'd lived through the Cordell Stewart years, 197 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 3: the good and the bad. Yeah, yeah, And Cordell was 198 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 3: a great player. Justin Fields is a great football player. 199 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 3: He is, I mean, he is a fabulous football player. 200 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 3: He is not as good a passer as Russell Wilson. No, 201 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 3: nobody would argue that. 202 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he'd argue that Cordell Stewart was 203 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 2: a great football player. He was not as good of 204 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: a passer as Tommy Maddox. Yeah, now, Madnis certainly had 205 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 2: his flaws, and that's why Bill Kawer went to Tommy Max. 206 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 2: He saw after getting to the court the AFC Championship 207 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 2: Game twice with Cordell, that they couldn't take the next step. 208 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: They couldn't get to the super Bowl playing that way. 209 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: And and again I don't think that they utilized Cordell 210 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: the right way. 211 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 3: Different too, the times were different. Cordell would have a 212 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 3: bet her career now than absolutely, no question. It might 213 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 3: be the first picking the draft, but he was. 214 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 4: He was. 215 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 2: He was middle of the pack in terms of actually 216 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: throwing the football. Yeah, but if you're not. 217 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 3: Gives a lot more five step drops and seven step drop. 218 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 2: If you're not going to utilize his legs or devise 219 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: an offense to utilize his legs, then what are you 220 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: doing right? 221 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 3: Like just think of the history of athletic quarterbacks. I 222 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 3: thought a huge step was taken forward in Washington when 223 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 3: they drafted RG three. Like, you know, stuff ruined his career, 224 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: but he burst on the scene. He was a stud 225 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 3: his first year. 226 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 2: Before that, Michael Vick was you know they yeah, but 227 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 2: ran stuff. 228 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, Daddy Shanahan created it all in Washington. That's the staff, 229 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 3: like Gruden was. All these dudes are on you know, 230 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 3: like not Gruden but his son and what McVeigh and 231 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 3: all those dudes. And it was a lot of play action, 232 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: use your legs while you learn. You know, that was 233 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 3: kind of a novel concept at the time. You know, 234 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 3: we want you to be a runner. I mean that's 235 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 3: why we drafted you. But eventually you need to become 236 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 3: the pocket passer too, which Wilson kind of went through. 237 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 2: That early in his career. Yeah, you know, absolutely first. 238 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: That's the thing with this Russell. There's a reason why 239 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: when Justin Fields was in college, he was calling Russell 240 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: Wilson for tips on how to be a quarterback. 241 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 4: Yeah. 242 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 2: Like these two have known each other for a long time. 243 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: And I've heard the suggestion what people expecting Russell Wilson 244 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 2: to mentor Justin Fields are crazy. That's not his job. 245 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 2: He's been doing that. He's been mentoring Justin Fields. These 246 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 2: guys are friends. 247 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: Off the field. I mean, he doesn't have to doesn't 248 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 3: have to have to. But I mean they've had a 249 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 3: relationship before. It is being a good teammate. 250 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: But this is This is not Ben Roethlisberger refusing to 251 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 2: mentor Mason Rudolph because he sees him as a threat. 252 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: Like Justin Russell. Wilson's at the point in his career 253 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: where all right, he's on a one year contract. Yeah, 254 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: if I come in here and play, well, if the 255 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: Steelers don't pay me, somebody will pay me next year. 256 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: And Justin Field is in the same situation like I 257 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 2: got one year. If it's here, if it's somewhere else, 258 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: somebody's gonna pay me. 259 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 3: And I don't think the Wilson family exactly hurting for bucks. 260 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: They're not. 261 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 3: But there's more to it than that, of course. Yeah, 262 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 3: And I do believe. And I don't know either one personally. 263 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 3: They don't know who I am. I mean, but I 264 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 3: think Wilson wants the best for Fields too, you know. 265 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 2: He wants he wants the best for the team. I 266 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: think they both want what's best for the team. I 267 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: think this is a good situation and both guys are 268 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: going to play. 269 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and which is an interesting approach. I mean, 270 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 3: there's not many teams that truly utilize two quarterbacks regularly. 271 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 3: But most people don't know if Justin Field is a backup. 272 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 2: That's the thing. 273 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 3: That's the thing. 274 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 2: I mean, you think back to the Ravens when when 275 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 2: they had Flacco and Jackson sitting on you know, and 276 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 2: the bench is a rookie. They had a package use this, 277 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: you know, they had a package for him. They didn't 278 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: ask him to throw a lot out of that package. 279 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 2: And you know, as we said, Fields can throw out 280 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 2: of that package whatever, whatever way you devise that. You 281 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 2: can just have him come in and run a couple 282 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: of Hey, run a couple of playsure it's third and two. 283 00:12:58,080 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 3: Oh you go empty, you know, I mean, yeah, I 284 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 3: do whatever. You could run the whole playbook. We've already 285 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 3: seen it, no question about it. 286 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: So I think it's a good situation. Makes them very 287 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 2: difficult to prepare for. And again the decision has been made. 288 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 2: It's over, you know, off the lobby for one or 289 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 2: the other. But if Fields were the starter, I don't 290 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 2: think you'd see Wilson. You wouldn't see a Wilson pat 291 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: when you do get down to the ten, Let's bring 292 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 2: Russ in and let him throw a touchdown pass right right. 293 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 3: I don't think that's what it would work, you know, 294 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 3: And it didn't get it didn't last week. 295 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 2: But you can in the middle of a drive, third 296 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 2: and four. Here it's second and three. Let's bring in 297 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 2: the fields here and see if we can catch him 298 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 2: off and maybe you keep will I don't know, maybe 299 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: keep Wilson on the field. Maybe you don't that. 300 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 3: I don't know. I never understood that, Like with the 301 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 3: Flacco Jackson stuff. Why had Flacco stand there like with 302 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 3: his hands and it was Flacco like Wilson can pull 303 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 3: them off the field. 304 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 2: Wilson's a better athlete than Flacco, no doubt. 305 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 3: But he's not going to run roundes. 306 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: No, you know, but you could do it. You could 307 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 2: do a throw. But it's all kinds of stuff that 308 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: you could do. You know, the first five times you 309 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 2: do it, he just stands there. Then all of a sudden, 310 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 2: the sixth time, he goes back behind the line of 311 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: scrimmage and you go throw over the top. I mean, 312 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: there's there are things here that you set plays up. 313 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: Oh, there's a lot of creativity coming. Yeah, I'm sure 314 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 3: of that. And I don't think fields will enter the 315 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 3: game just for push push or yardage or I don't 316 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 3: even know if he'll come in for those instances at all. 317 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 4: Maybe he will. 318 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 3: I mean, he's hard to deal with in that in 319 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 3: that situation, but I don't know. I'm sure he'll run 320 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 3: a large percentage of his snaps, but certainly not all. 321 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 2: I mean I would I would devise something where I 322 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: got Harris on one side of him, I got Jayalen 323 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: Warren on another. Maybe I got Cordo Patterson split out 324 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: wide and with with you know whoever out there. I mean, 325 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: it looks like a run package. I got all my running, 326 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: I got all my runners on the field, and then 327 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: you throw it and they can all catch. Yeah. 328 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 3: The thing is like it's gonna sound so old, but 329 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 3: people do it now. I mean, single wing stuff is 330 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 3: still being used in the you know, and it's hard 331 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 3: to deal with. And it was crazy because it's hard 332 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 3: to deal with. Yeah, you can run some of that 333 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 3: stuff too. 334 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, just I think people are look, some people are 335 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 2: looking at this as if Justin Fields is being benched, right. 336 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 3: I think that's the wrong way looking. 337 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: It's absolutely the wrong way to look at it. He 338 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: was the backup Joe Gillham got bench Joe Gillim got bench. 339 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 2: He was the start, He was named the starter going 340 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: into the season, and then got bench, got replaced, and 341 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 2: got replaced. This is a situation where the starter got hurt, 342 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: is now healthy and he's coming back into start. 343 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 3: Because they think he gives him the best chance to win. 344 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 3: And I agree, yeah, you know, I'm excited to see it. 345 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: I am as well. We'll talk to Bob Labriola next 346 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: and see if he is excited to see this. We'll 347 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: talk a little bit about nineteen seventy four as well. 348 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 3: No question. 349 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening 350 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt 351 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 2: and I'll be back with more right after this. 352 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 4: At least. 353 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 354 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 355 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio. 356 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 2: And welcome back to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly. 357 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson. And on the phone line, 358 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: the Justin Miller Hotline, We're joined by Bob Labriola, the 359 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: editor of Steelers Digested, Steelers dot Com, and the dean 360 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: of Doom. 361 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 4: What's Up Bob, I'm just wondering if you and Matt 362 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 4: have figured out who's starring a quarterback on something. 363 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 2: We figured it out quite some time ago. It's just 364 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 2: taking the rest of the world some time to catch up. 365 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 4: We'll fill me in. 366 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 2: We might be cooking a little bit on on Sunday night, 367 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 2: how about that. 368 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 4: You know, I don't disagree. The only thing I would 369 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 4: say is no center, no starting center. 370 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's concern. 371 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: Oh, it's a concern. 372 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe you need the wheels fields is wheels a 373 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 4: little bit? 374 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 2: What do you think There are other ways to attack that, 375 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 2: That's what I think, such as going to a little 376 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 2: bit of quicker passing game, slowing that pass rush down 377 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 2: a little bit. There's some things you can do to 378 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 2: alleviate that. And I know this is one of the 379 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 2: things that's driven me nuts about the whole thing here, Bob. Yes, 380 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 2: just Russell Wilson is not justin fields. Is a runner 381 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: Nobody out there outside of Lamar Jackson and Jayden Daniels. 382 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 2: I don't think there is anybody else in the league 383 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 2: that is the runner in that class of fields. But 384 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 2: he ran for three hundred and fifty yards last year 385 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: in Denver in fifteen games. It's not like he's he's 386 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: not endgame Ben Roethlisberger standing back in the pocket. 387 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 4: I don't you know. I'm not advocating that Russell Wilson 388 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 4: not get an opportunity to do what he was brought 389 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 4: to Pittsburgh to do by any means. I'm just you know, 390 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 4: I just think that, and I don't know, maybe this 391 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 4: is just me. First of all, I don't think that 392 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 4: it's necessarily a strict either or with those guys in 393 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 4: any game. 394 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 2: No, I think both both could play this week. 395 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, you know who you who you start with, 396 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 4: who you go to, you know. All of that stuff 397 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 4: To me is you know details. But you know I 398 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 4: I am. I am of the opinion like a lot 399 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 4: of people, and it sounds like you and Matt too, 400 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 4: that Russell Wilson was brought to Pittsburgh for a reason. 401 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 4: And you know, now that he's healthy, I see no 402 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 4: reason why you don't find out if you know, he's 403 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 4: capable of executing the plan you had in mind all along. 404 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 4: Uh So, but anyway, you know we're gonna find out. 405 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 4: To me, it's there's nothing like I wouldn't call it 406 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 4: a quarterback controversy. Yet. But you know, nothing stirs the 407 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 4: paying customers like quarterback questions. I mean seriously, and it 408 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 4: certainly should be interesting on Sunday night when you know 409 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 4: the other team has an interesting quarterback as well, albeit 410 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 4: somewhat older. 411 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 3: You mentioned it already, But how much is the offensive 412 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 3: line worry you for this game and really the rest 413 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 3: of the season considering all the injuries? 414 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you know, if you get Zach Fraser back, 415 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 4: I like the five. You know, I don't think you 416 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 4: can absorb too many more injuries, you know, beyond you know, 417 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 4: short term things. But you know, I think that people 418 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 4: getting on Broderick Jones for last week that's a little bit. 419 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 4: That was Max Crosby. Boys and girl, that guy can 420 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 4: play a little bit. And you know, Broderick Jones, you 421 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 4: know he's gonna if you got to hold the guy. 422 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 4: I mean, we see what they do to t. J. Watt. 423 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 4: And you know, Max Crosby isn't far below category right 424 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 4: in the game record category, So you know, I'm not 425 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 4: I'm not ready to throw Broderick Jones out in the 426 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 4: trash because he got a holding penalty and oh my goodness, 427 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 4: he was holding him another time and it wasn't called 428 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 4: I mean that in this league, yeah right, and that 429 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 4: tends to happen a lot to guys like Max Crosby 430 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 4: and TJ. Watt, you know, and those people. So uh yeah, 431 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 4: I you know, the offensive line to me is not 432 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 4: as worrisome as I just believe that. You know, you 433 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 4: got to be able to have an NFL caliber pass 434 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 4: offense to get through the next eleven games against the teams. 435 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 4: You know, you got the home and homes against all 436 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 4: of the AFC North teams, you got the Eagles, you 437 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 4: got Kansas City, you got Washington. You know, these are 438 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 4: games that you need more than one hundred and forty 439 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 4: five yards passing. You know, you just do. 440 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 2: You're one hundred percent correct about that. And that was 441 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: kind of one of the points that I made was 442 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 2: that if you're going to beat the Ravens this year, 443 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 2: and the Ravens look like they're going to be, surprise, surprise, 444 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: the top contender with the Steelers in the AFC North, 445 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 2: if you're going to beat them this year, take a 446 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 2: look at who leads the league and run defense, and 447 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 2: then take a look at who is thirty first in 448 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 2: pass defense this year, and tell me you're going to 449 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: get by throwing for one hundred and forty five yards 450 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 2: and running for one hundred and eighty three against the Ravens. 451 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 2: It's not going to happen. You're just gonna pound your 452 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 2: head into a wall thirty five times if you try 453 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 2: that approach. 454 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 3: And same is probably true for much of the playoff competition. 455 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 3: You're gonna face right, you know right. 456 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 2: You're gonna have to throw the football and throw it 457 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 2: effectively if you want to get where you want to go. 458 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 2: And I thought the key statement from Mike Tomlin at 459 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 2: his press conference on Tuesday is, look, we've been good. 460 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 2: Justin's been good, you know, and but we want to 461 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 2: be great, and to be great, you've got to be 462 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 2: able to provide more of a passing attack. 463 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 4: I agree one hundred percent. The only thing that you 464 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 4: know and I everything we're talking about could happen on Sunday. 465 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 4: I just don't know that it's necessary necessarily going to 466 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 4: happen this way. A change of the starter, you know, 467 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 4: and I'm not suggesting this, We're just kicking this around. 468 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 4: You know. Maybe you start fields and I'm not saying 469 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 4: I'm on a short leash or you know, any of 470 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 4: those negative connotations that seem to be attached to this 471 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 4: kind of stuff. But see how it goes. And you know, 472 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 4: if you need to go to Russell Wilson start the 473 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 4: second quarter, if you need to go to Russell Wilson 474 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 4: at halftime, if you need whenever, you need to go 475 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 4: to Russell Wilson. If you think that that's necessary, do it. 476 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 4: And just because you put him in doesn't mean then 477 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 4: he takes every snap on offense for the rest of 478 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 4: that game. Either, maybe you can have some packages, you know, 479 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 4: for justin fields. But you know, I again, I have 480 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 4: no doubt that it's going to happen. I think, excuse me, 481 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 4: I think it needs to happen. It's just a question 482 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 4: of when and how. 483 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 3: So what differences do you think you see? I'm not 484 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 3: talking about schematics, but you know, Dale and I have 485 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 3: mentioned maybe you see a little bit more of Austin 486 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 3: and Jefferson. You know, maybe you're going through your progressions 487 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 3: a little deeper you get to the third read as 488 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 3: opposed to taking it off and running. Maybe there's more 489 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 3: middle of the field passing. I absolutely think that the 490 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 3: not just a quarterback center exchange, but all the not 491 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 3: football stuff of getting things in and out of the 492 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 3: huddle is going to be a lot cleaner, you know, 493 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 3: all this, all those kind of schematics. 494 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 4: Sure, and you know, I think that another thing that 495 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 4: you know, Russell Wilson has done throughout his career. You know, 496 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 4: he throws with the anticipation and he's accurate, and you 497 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 4: know there's a lot of things that he sees I'm 498 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 4: sure quicker and more accurately than a lot of younger quarterbacks, 499 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 4: justin fields included. You know, the thing with fields, you know, 500 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 4: coming from Chicago was never that you know, were his 501 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 4: physical skills or his combination his skill set was that 502 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 4: lacking to make him a quality starting quarterback in the NFL. 503 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 4: But it was the recognition, you know, seeing it and 504 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 4: then whatever neurons you know, take it to you know, 505 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,239 Speaker 4: your arm where you recognize it and you get rid 506 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 4: of the ball, uh in a in a timely and 507 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 4: an accurate manner. I mean, this is this is what 508 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 4: quarterbacking in the at the NFL level is all about. 509 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 4: You have to be more than just accurate or excuse me, 510 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 4: you have to be more than just talented. You know, 511 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 4: the recognition part, the execution part, the understanding part, all 512 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 4: of that is critical. And you know, I'm not saying 513 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 4: that Justin Fields can't get it. I'm just saying it 514 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 4: right now, he doesn't give give to you in those 515 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 4: categories what Russell Wilson can give to you in those categories. 516 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 4: And let's not forget you know, the whole thing. To me, 517 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 4: the whole the key word about this whole season is now. Now. 518 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 4: Now they want to get to the playoffs, and now 519 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 4: they want to start winning playoff games. Now is when 520 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 4: you have this defense that you've invested a lot of 521 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 4: money in. Uh, you have dynamic playmakers on defense at 522 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 4: every level of your unit. And now is when you 523 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 4: have you know, a punter who is certainly not a liability. 524 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 4: I don't know that he's a weapon to the degree 525 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 4: that Johnston was, but Weightman is clearly an upgrade over 526 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 4: Prisley Harvin. You've got a placekicker who's making ninety five 527 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 4: percent and you're blocking kicks. I mean, I don't know, 528 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 4: you know, I don't research all this stuff, but you 529 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 4: can't tell me there's any special teams unit in the 530 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 4: league that has blocked two kicks already, a punt and 531 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 4: a field goal. Those are not That's not easy things. 532 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 4: Those are not easy things to do. And so you 533 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 4: have all of that. Now, what you're missing is what 534 00:26:55,160 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 4: I would call, for lack of a better phrase, an 535 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 4: NFL caliber passing attack. And who knows, maybe Russell Wilson's 536 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 4: ability to recognize it and make anticipatory and accurate throws, 537 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 4: maybe that makes Van Jefferson a better player. Or Calvin Austin, yeah, 538 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,479 Speaker 4: or Pat Fryermuth, maybe it makes him a real weapon. 539 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 4: So uh, you know, again, there's no question in my 540 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 4: mind that this needs to happen. All I'm saying is 541 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 4: I don't know that I start Russell Wilson this Sunday 542 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 4: because you got Quinnon Williams against Ry McCollum, and I 543 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 4: want to see how that works out first before maybe 544 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 4: I put a guy out there with a calf that 545 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 4: might be one quick move away from, you know, a 546 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 4: season ending injury. 547 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 2: Bobby can't live in your fears. 548 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 4: Yes I can't. I have living proof that you can't do. 549 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 2: That, Bob. But changing gears here. This will be the 550 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 2: celebration of the fiftieth anniversary of the nineteen seventy four 551 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 2: Super Bowl team. I'm assuming by now you've seen the 552 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 2: video that that the Steelers put out that that they 553 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 2: you know with Dynasty, Yeah, which was was great. If 554 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 2: you haven't watched that yet, you need to get over 555 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 2: to Steelers dot com or the Steelers YouTube channel and 556 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 2: watch that. Uh, those guys did a great job producing 557 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 2: that and and getting uh, you know a lot of 558 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 2: participation from from you know, the players on that team. 559 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 2: People forget Joe Gillham was for to one and one 560 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 2: as the starter that year and got bench back for 561 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 2: Terry Bradshaw. Terry Bradshaw was not the starting quarterback for 562 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers to open that season. 563 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 4: He was not. And let me let me just continue 564 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 4: and bench again. I was gonna say, uh, gill got 565 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 4: bench for Bradshaw, Bradshaw got bench for hand Ratty hand 566 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 4: Raddy got benched for Bradshaw. You know, it's that stuff happens. 567 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 4: I mean, it's not always necessarily a smooth ride of 568 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 4: a season, you know, to to greatness, you know, pursuing greatness. 569 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 4: As Mike Colin mentioned in his news conference, now I'm 570 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 4: not predicting, you know, the kind of season for the 571 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 4: twenty twenty fourteen that the nineteen seventy fourteen had by 572 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 4: any means. I'm just saying that there's you know, the 573 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 4: thing about this that always kind of amuses me is 574 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 4: the longer time passes, the more all of the rough 575 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 4: spots are smoothed over, Like everybody thinks nobody remembers the 576 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 4: angst that was going on in the quarterback position. Well 577 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 4: that nineteen seventy fourteen, I mean, hand Rady, he was 578 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 4: they won a game in Cleveland. I think Hanrady threw 579 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 4: for I don't know, thirty eight yards or something at 580 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 4: two or three picks, and I mean it was ridiculously bad. 581 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 4: And Chuck Noll was legitimately looking for competent quarterback, yes, right, 582 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 4: and he was, and he was, you know, going back 583 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 4: and forth. He couldn't decide. And you know, Nolan was 584 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 4: a great coach, Hall of fame coach. He was in 585 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 4: the process of the greatest you know, resurrection projects since 586 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 4: Lazareth was brought back from the dead. So you know, again, uh, 587 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 4: I just think that there's too much now glossing over 588 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 4: a lot of the rough spots. As time passes and things, 589 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 4: things just aren't weren't as smooth as people might remember 590 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 4: them or believe they were. And uh, you know these 591 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 4: these decisions were made, and not necessarily one was made 592 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 4: and then that was the right one and there was 593 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 4: no other. You know, you didn't change from it. That 594 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 4: was it, you know you bench Gillen put in Bradshaw, Okay, 595 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 4: that was it. Well no, actually it wasn't because Bradshaw 596 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 4: stunk and they put in hand Rady who was worse. 597 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 4: So I don't know, I just that was a lot. 598 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 3: Sorry interrupt along those lines. At what point was Bradshaw 599 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 3: firmly the unquestioned starter? I mean, like even camp after 600 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 3: winning the Super Bowl? Was he clearly the guy? And 601 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 3: there was no controversy And you're just how bad was 602 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 3: he to start his career? Really? Really like the worst 603 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 3: starter league? 604 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 4: Right? 605 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean yeah. 606 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 4: You know Terry Bradshaw's passer ratings. It was my remembrance 607 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 4: is he did not have a season in which he 608 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 4: finished with more Touchdowes than interceptions until he had two 609 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 4: Super Bowl rings. 610 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 2: You're right, you are correct about that. 611 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 3: Times are different. 612 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 2: The team passer rating in nineteen seventy four and passer 613 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 2: ratings not to be all end all, but it's kind 614 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 2: of indicative of how the quarterbacks are playing the team 615 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: passer rating in nineteen seventy four was forty eight point nine. 616 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 2: Forty eight point nine. DeShawn Watson right now is better 617 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 2: than that? 618 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, And the other thing about Moll's quarterbacks, 619 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 4: they called their own plays. They called their own play. 620 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: They threw twelve touchdown passes in twenty one interceptions that 621 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 2: season and completed forty three percent of their passes and 622 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 2: won the Super Bowl. 623 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 3: But like when they went into the playoffs, was Bradshaw 624 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 3: the guy you know? Or is there he's still have 625 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 3: a short? 626 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 4: No, he was the guy at that point, I mean, 627 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 4: because it was just it had just become obvious that 628 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 4: the other two guys weren't okay. You know, whether whether 629 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 4: Terry Bradshaw was perceived to be a Hall of Famer 630 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 4: and waiting the seventy four playoffs, I would say definitely not. 631 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 2: But and this was his fifth year in the league. 632 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 2: Imagine if that happened today. We got teams giving up 633 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 2: on first round draft picks two years into their careers. 634 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 2: Young got benched in Carolina after basically fifteen starts or whatever. 635 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 4: Option, you know, And you know the and another thing, though, 636 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 4: you know, in favor of the way that things work 637 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 4: then was it was no free agency. 638 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 2: There's also no social media, which didn't happen that start either. 639 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 4: Certainly my life was better back, but I mean, so 640 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 4: you know, you didn't have to worry about a lot 641 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 4: of it. I think now, is he draft a quarterback? 642 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 4: You know you have him for four years, maybe five 643 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 4: if you exercises fifty year option. 644 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 2: I mean, and then he's gonna cost you like a 645 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 2: jillion dollars or not. Well, but I mean you have 646 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 2: to find out, but you have to know. 647 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, as you mentioned Bradshaw's fifth year, his fifth season 648 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 4: was the seventh was a seventy four season. They still 649 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 4: didn't know really towards the end of that season, as 650 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 4: I was mentioning, is Bradshaw a big time passing quarterback 651 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 4: or is he going to be a guy that we're 652 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 4: going to have to win with running game and defense with? 653 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 4: But you didn't have to worry about losing them to 654 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 4: free agency, so you could continue to build around him 655 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 4: while also not having to worry about losing any of 656 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 4: your defensive players to free agency. You didn't have to 657 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 4: worry about losing say one offseason else Greenwood, Joe Green, 658 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 4: and Jack Ham all signed as unrestricted free agents, and 659 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,479 Speaker 4: all of a sudden you're back to square one trying 660 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 4: to build something. Oh in mel Blood too, maybe. 661 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 3: Imagine Swan's class when they all come up to the 662 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 3: same ye right, So yeah. 663 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 4: You know it was it was a it was a 664 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 4: different era for sure. But you know, again, as I said, 665 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 4: I just I think people have a tendency to not 666 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 4: remember or not even really know a lot of the 667 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 4: trials and tribulations that teams that are you know, famous 668 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 4: now and exalted and worshiped, weren't that way when they 669 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 4: put the ball on the tee for the regular season opener, 670 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 4: all the way through. You know, when they carried Chuck 671 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 4: Bull off the field after winning the Super Bowl. 672 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 3: It wasn't built in the day, you know. 673 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 2: And right you mentioned Terry Hanratty's starting a game that 674 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 2: seasoning his stats for the year, he was three for 675 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 2: twenty six ninety five yards, one touchdown in five interceptions. 676 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 3: But if he wasn't maybe they never went the brand show. 677 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, right, you know, I don't. I mean again, 678 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 2: I think people do remember things differently. You know, it's 679 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 2: just a different era of football. And you know, you 680 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 2: watch the again, watch go back, go watch the film 681 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,240 Speaker 2: that there, the video that was put together on Steelers 682 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 2: dot com or and just look at the hits that 683 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 2: take place in the league at that point. My god, 684 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 2: it was it was you know, you you would get 685 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 2: put in jail if you hit people like that. 686 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:35,959 Speaker 4: Now, yeah, you know, yes, there's there's I got absolutely 687 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 4: no nothing to disagree with there. But uh, you know again, 688 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 4: it was a it was a different sport then, uh, 689 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 4: and you know, yeah, but anyway back to the present. 690 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 4: You know, I think that this is a game, this 691 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 4: is I won't say the steel have to win it, 692 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 4: but I definitely believe that these next two games, you know, 693 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 4: you have opportunities to win both and six and two 694 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:16,760 Speaker 4: after eight and maybe you have more knowledge or greater 695 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 4: comfort and how you're going to use your quarterbacks, you know, 696 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 4: moving forward, and you know, hey, everything is still sitting 697 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 4: right there in front of you and this whole team. 698 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 3: And I know we're Steeler centric, but I think it's 699 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 3: pretty close to a must win for the Jets. It 700 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 3: is dire times if you go to what two and five. 701 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 2: Well, I mean the owner came out today yesterday at 702 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 2: the at the meetings down in Atlanta and said they're 703 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 2: gonna they're gonna kick you know what the rest of 704 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 2: the season. So, you know, after making the Devonte Adams trade. 705 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,800 Speaker 2: So I think that coaching staff and is certainly unnotice 706 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,439 Speaker 2: that they're all in. I mean, they got a bunch 707 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 2: of old guys. I think some of these guys actually 708 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 2: played against the nineteen seventy four Steelers who are on 709 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 2: the we're on this Jets roster, but they're in it 710 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 2: to win it this year. 711 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 4: Well, don't forget. You just fired the coach too, beyond 712 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 4: acquiring DeVante Adams. You know, you fired the coach, and 713 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 4: no one's going to convince me any of anything else. Uh, 714 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 4: general manager, you're general manager is also your starting quarterback 715 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 4: for the Jets. 716 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, he can, he can deny that all he wants. 717 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 2: But I mean, right if you're a friend of Aaron, 718 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 2: you're a friend of the Jets right now. Yes, that's 719 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 2: just the way it is. 720 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 4: They've got a lot of things. You know, they may 721 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 4: be in a win now mode and all of that stuff, 722 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 4: but they're also in significant transition. I can't imagine, you know, 723 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 4: the firing of the coach. Thing that has to have divided, 724 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 4: you know, that locker room, that organization a little bit 725 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 4: because I'm sure that that was not a move that 726 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 4: anybody saw it coming. 727 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 2: I agree, No, yeah, for sure. 728 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 4: So you know, when you when you do those kinds 729 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 4: of things, I think that and again I'm not I 730 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 4: don't know what if the Jets are gonna if there's 731 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 4: all kinds of turmoil or anything going on there. But 732 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, you don't. You don't fire a coach, 733 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 4: uh in the middle of the season like that and 734 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 4: there not be any lingering or residual things that you 735 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 4: have to deal with beyond you know, you just get 736 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 4: that guy out and put that guy in. Okay, now 737 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,760 Speaker 4: everything is now humming along great. It's not like changing 738 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 4: a spark plug in your car. It immediately runs better. 739 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 4: So we're gonna see. But uh, you know, Aaron Rodgers 740 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 4: is forty years old. I'm hoping everybody wants to talk 741 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 4: about whether DeVante Adams is going to play on Sunday. 742 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 4: And let me tell you this, that hamps during his 743 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 4: he healed miraculously. His buddy, Aaron. 744 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 2: Rodgers I think laid hands on him and that fixed. 745 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 4: But you know, beyond the Adams thing is you know, 746 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 4: is he gonna play or not Alex Heismith. Is he 747 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 4: gonna play or not? Because you know what they say 748 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,879 Speaker 4: with farmers always say, you say you got to kill 749 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 4: the snake, cut the head off. So you want to 750 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 4: do something with the Jets offense, you take it out 751 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 4: on Aaron Rodgers and his forty year old body. Let's 752 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 4: see what we got. Do it clean, but do it 753 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 4: consistently and relentlessly, because that's the way I think, because 754 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 4: thinking you're going to cover all those people is delusional. 755 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 4: Bris sall Garrett Wilson, Davante Adams, the tight end Allan Lazard, 756 00:40:54,440 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 4: who is you know, Rogers, his buddy, his security blanket 757 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 4: covering all those eligible receivers. To me is you know 758 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 4: you're gonna try and do that. But I think a 759 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 4: much better approach is let's pound the snot out of 760 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 4: the forty year old and see what he can handle, 761 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 4: because I just don't believes he's what he was. He 762 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 4: can't be he's forty years old. 763 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 2: That's a good place to end that, Bob, because well 764 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 2: we're all over forty. So there we go. We're not 765 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 2: what we were about what we used to do. 766 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 4: All I could be Aaron Rodgers's. 767 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 2: Dad, I guess technically I could too, but that's been 768 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 2: i'd had to get well. You know, I wouldn't have 769 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,280 Speaker 2: had to do that. 770 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 3: I was one during that nineteen seventy four seasons, so 771 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 3: that's why it makes me feel young. 772 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,879 Speaker 4: I got him. I got a message for you, Matt, 773 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 4: but I can't say it. 774 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 2: Our guest has been Bob Lavola, the editor of Steelers 775 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 2: Digest in Steelers dot Com and the dean of doone 776 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 2: and living a lord of living in his fears. I'm 777 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 2: Dale Lolli. He is Matt Williamson. This is the Drive 778 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,399 Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I'll be back 779 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 2: with more. We appreciate Bob Labriella stopping by as he 780 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 2: does every Wednesday. We'll see you right back after this. 781 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,839 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 782 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 783 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: and Gold car Steelers Nation Radio. 784 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 2: And welcome back. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the Matt 785 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 2: Williamson and Matt. We have the injury reports here for 786 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 2: both teams. For the Steelers, Naujie Harris did not practice 787 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 2: day dealing with some rib stuff, but he's given the 788 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 2: last Wednesday Audio. Well, yeah, Demantekz with the ankle did 789 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 2: not practice. Nick Herbig with the hamstring did not practice. 790 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 2: He's already been declared out. Zach Fraser with the ankle 791 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 2: did not practice, already been declared out. Alex Highsmith with 792 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 2: the groin limited today trending in the right direction. I 793 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,879 Speaker 2: expect him to play. Isaac Samolo given the day off 794 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 2: to rest. Michael Pruitt with the knee, was a full 795 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 2: participant in practice today, and then Cordell Patterson with the 796 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 2: ankle was the other one who did not practice, resting 797 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,720 Speaker 2: today with t J Watt, Cam Hayward and Larry Ogan Joby. 798 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 3: Do you think there's a chance Herbig Patterson Fraser played 799 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 3: next week? Too too early to tell. 800 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 2: I would say more likely on Patterson and KZ than 801 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 2: or who is herbig I'm sorry Herbig Thaneah. 802 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 3: At least he avoided injury reserve. 803 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Fraser probably looking at maybe coming out 804 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 2: of the bye week. Okay, that would be three weeks. Yeah. 805 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,760 Speaker 2: Looking at the Jets side of things, uh Nickel corner 806 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 2: Michael Carter with a back injury did not practice. Cornerback 807 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 2: DJ Reed with a groin did not practice. I don't 808 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 2: know that he the stuff that I saw out of 809 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,240 Speaker 2: New York, out of their some of their writers, doesn't 810 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,320 Speaker 2: look like either one of those two are gonna play. 811 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 3: Which is huge. I mean that's there, that'd be like 812 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 3: even better. I mean it's kind of like Jackson's their read. Yeah, 813 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,320 Speaker 3: and a good, really high end slot corner. 814 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 815 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 3: You know. 816 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,720 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers with an ankle did not practice today. 817 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 3: I bet he's a little sore. 818 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 2: I bet he is took some hits. Mike Williams, not 819 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,319 Speaker 2: injury related, personal, did not practice. I wonder if they 820 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 2: just told him to stay away. We don't want you 821 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 2: to we don't want you around. We don't want your 822 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 2: kind round here no more. 823 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 3: I wonder if he's getting traded. 824 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:41,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's well, I definitely guarantee you they're trying to trade. 825 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 2: Tyler Conklin, with a hip injury, was limited, as was 826 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 2: Will McDonald with a shoulder limited. Their best edge pass rusher, 827 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,720 Speaker 2: Morgan Moses with a knee limited. It's their starting right tackle. 828 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 2: Tyrone Smith, the other start starting left tackle, was given 829 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,840 Speaker 2: a day off the rest Chas has a heel injury. 830 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 2: He's their only back up inside linebacker. He was limited 831 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 2: today and then DeVante Adams what the ham string was 832 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 2: a full participant. 833 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 3: Okay, I mean he's there and he's doing everything as 834 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 3: we suspected. Yeah, he's right to roll. 835 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,360 Speaker 2: The hands of God came down and he's just going 836 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 2: to be fine. Laid upon him and suddenly the hamstring 837 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,280 Speaker 2: was healed, Diamn heeled. 838 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 3: He's all right. I'm sure he'll play a lot in 839 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 3: this game. I assume there's a lot of the same 840 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 3: verbiage when they were in Green Bay together. If not, 841 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,719 Speaker 3: Rogers will just tell him that version of it. Yeah, Yeah, 842 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,400 Speaker 3: I think he'll figure out quickly what to do. 843 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's the injury situation for both teams right now. 844 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 2: What better idea on some of the stuff tomorrow? I 845 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 2: would expect some of these guys who didn't practice to 846 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 2: get back, But from what I'm hearing, Rogers is expected 847 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 2: to practice tomorrow. But Carter and Reed or not. 848 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, said the Jets Corners, I think is the conversation. 849 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 2: That's the strength of their defense. Pretty good defense, a 850 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 2: pretty good defense overall. But they'll do everything that they 851 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 2: do is based on the fact that they can play 852 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 2: coverage on the back end because of those those three cornerbacks, 853 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 2: and if they don't have two of them, it might 854 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,239 Speaker 2: be the best trio in the league. Yeah, it makes 855 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 2: things interesting. M m oh, no doubt. 856 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 3: And again that might be more Austin Jefferson, et cetera. 857 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:19,359 Speaker 3: To attack the depth guys who aren't really named dudes either. 858 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean looking at it, here the the the backups, 859 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 2: the backup cornerbacks. Brandon eccles is the backup spot, he's 860 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 2: the slot. And then you've got Kwantes Stiggers, who was 861 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 2: a rookie this year, but an older rookie who played 862 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,320 Speaker 2: in the What the XFL. 863 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,399 Speaker 3: So I think he went from CFL to XFL. He's 864 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 3: got a weird We talked about him on draft he 865 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 3: was a fifth round pick and then Jeric Bernard Converse 866 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 3: and that I don't don't know who. Yeah, that's what 867 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 3: they've got. You have to challengees. 868 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 2: We already know Chuck Clark is out, he went on 869 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 2: irty S week. I assume Ashton Davis and slides into 870 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 2: that starting strong, stinking Yeah. So their secondary is a 871 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 2: little little bound. 872 00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 873 00:46:58,280 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 2: Again, that's the strength of the defense. 874 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 3: They don't usually travel sauce, but I think I would 875 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 3: if I were them in considering the matchup. 876 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 2: Match what the question becomes, can the other guys if 877 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,840 Speaker 2: you are traveling, can Stiggers Let's assume it's Stiggers who started. 878 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,840 Speaker 2: I would assuming it is, Yeah, can he? Is he 879 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 2: capable of flipping sides? If that happens, you know, you 880 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 2: break the huddle and heat and Okay, Sauce is going 881 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 2: to the to the left side, Well I got to 882 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 2: play right side. 883 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 3: Now you could have more communication issues. Yeah, would you 884 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 3: play more eleven of the Steelers just to have three 885 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 3: corners on the field as much as possible. It's not 886 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:32,840 Speaker 3: really what Steelers do. 887 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 2: It's not what they do, right, but quarterback, I wouldn't 888 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 2: be opposed to it, right right, I mean, or I 889 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 2: mean even you know, getting them and where they just 890 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 2: have the two corners in a safety make them get bigger. Again, 891 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 2: I mentioned Chas for rats on that list there beat 892 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:49,799 Speaker 2: them up a little bit. I don't know that they 893 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 2: have necessarily you know, the. 894 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 3: They want to play nickel too. 895 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:53,399 Speaker 4: Yeah. 896 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,719 Speaker 2: The defensive line depth is okay, but it's not outstanding 897 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,399 Speaker 2: is what it has been has been waves and they're 898 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 2: a little light on it now, especially on the edges. 899 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, and They want to play with two linebackers on 900 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 3: the field, like it's a Niners defense. I remember Robert 901 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 3: s Laws. It's his defense. Defense been good under him. 902 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,280 Speaker 3: They want to play with you know, Greenlaw and Mourner 903 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 3: every snap. 904 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:14,400 Speaker 4: You know. 905 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:19,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll see. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. 906 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. 907 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 2: We're going to do it. Get to a break here. 908 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 2: That's going to do it for our number one of 909 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,879 Speaker 2: the drive, Matt and I'll be back with our number 910 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 2: two right after this.