1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: Hi, This is newt Twenty twenty is going to be 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: one of the most extraordinary election years of our lifetime. 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: I want to invite you to join my Inner Circle 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: as we discuss each twist and turn in the presidential race. 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: In my members only Inner Circle Club, you'll receive special 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: flash briefings, online events, and members only audio reports from 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: me and my team. Here is a special offer for 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: my podcast listeners. 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In the investigation of 18 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: the President, fundamental principles which Americans hold dear, privacy, fairness, 19 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: checks and balances have been seriously violated. And why because 20 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: we are here as we are here today because the 21 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: Republicans in the House are paralyzed with hatred of President Clinton, 22 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: and until the Republicans free themselves of this hatred, our 23 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: country will suffer them of a president is an underjoying 24 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: of an actual election. And one of the reasons we 25 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: all feel so angry about what they are doing is 26 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: that they are ripping from us. They are ripping under votes. 27 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: They are telling us that our votes don't telt and 28 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: that the election must be set aside. The American people 29 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: don't think that they have made a mistake by electing 30 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton, and we in Congress had better be very 31 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: careful before we upset their decision and make darn sure 32 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: that we are able to convince them if we decide 33 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:18,399 Speaker 1: to upset their decision, that our decision to impeach him 34 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: was based upon principle and not politics. On this episode 35 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: of Nisworld, as we watched the impeachment hearings this week, 36 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: I am constantly asked by journalist what my experience was 37 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: during the Clinton impeachment in nineteen ninety eight when I 38 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: was a Speaker of the House. Frankly, I haven't wonder 39 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: to talk about it and get all involved in it. 40 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: But when I watched Nancy Pelosi tell us that for 41 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: two and a half years she had been plotting this impeachment, 42 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: I felt that I had to speak out about the 43 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: difference between what we did in nineteen ninety eight and 44 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: what they are doing now, because they are amazingly different. 45 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: One of the biggest criticisms of the process has been 46 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,839 Speaker 1: the speed at which the House impresses are leaving. If 47 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: this is seriously though, it's been going offers twenty two months, 48 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: so okay, four and a half years. Actually. I was 49 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: particularly offended when Speaker Pelosi said this week that they 50 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: had been working for two and a half years to 51 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: impeach President Trump, and I thought, this is such a 52 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: disgustingly false approach that somebody has to stand up and 53 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: just say enough. As you know, I was the Speaker 54 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: of the House during the impeachment of Bill Clinton. But 55 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: the truth is, if you go back and look at 56 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: a very interesting book by Steve Gillen called The Pact 57 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton, Nut Gingrich and the Rivalry the defined a generation, 58 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: we didn't spend all of our time fighting each other. 59 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: We thought that as Speaker of the House in president 60 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: United States, we had an obligation to America to do 61 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: things for America. So if you go back and look, 62 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: you'll find that we passed welfare reform, which was the 63 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: most successful effort to help poor people leave welfare and 64 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: get jobs. More children left poverty and rose in income 65 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: because of welfare reform than any other time in American history. 66 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: We passed Food and Drug Administration reform, something which Congressman 67 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: Joe Barton had worked on for years. We passed telecommunications 68 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: reform to open up the system and enable us to 69 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: have a more modern, more rapidly changing telecommunications program, something 70 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: which Congressman John Dingle, the senior person in the Congress, 71 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: said he had hoped for years. He never thought it 72 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: would happened, and as a Democrat, he had to confess 73 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: that we had managed to pass something that he thought 74 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: was almost miraculous. And working with President Clinton, we passed 75 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: four consecutive years of a balanced budget. We also had 76 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: the economy grow faster because we passed the largest capital 77 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,559 Speaker 1: gainst tax cut in history. And the President I worked 78 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: together to create the Heart Rudman Commission, which was a 79 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: three year study of American national security and which warned 80 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: about attacks in American cities by terrorists at the beginning 81 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: of two thousand and one, about eight months before the 82 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: actual attack occurred. So Clinton and I had worked on 83 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: lots of stuff. In fact, all through the period of 84 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: the investigation and then the impeachment, we still worked on things, 85 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: particularly dealing with Saddam Hussein and the problem of what's 86 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: happening in Iraq, and I routine they would support the 87 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: president if he took strong steps even though we were 88 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: fighting over this issue of impeachment. What happened with impeachment 89 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: with us, which is the exact opposite of what we've 90 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: seen by Nancy Pelosia the Democrats. We were faced with 91 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: the report from an independent council, Ken Start, and he 92 00:05:55,800 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: said President Clinton is guilty on eleven counts. Was not 93 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: about sex in the Oval office. The impeachment is actually 94 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,799 Speaker 1: about a finding by an independent council that on eleven counts, 95 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: the President States had broken the law. Now compare that 96 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: with where we are right now. You had a two 97 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: year of MULA report done by people who hated President 98 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: Trump or active left wing Democrat lawyers, and they couldn't 99 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: find anything to use the word guilty. The closest they 100 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: could come with say well, we haven't proven he's innocent, 101 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: which of course is nonsense because the American system, you 102 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: are innocent unless you're proven guilty. That's the best they 103 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: could do. I mean, that's how pathetic this was. And 104 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: so you then have the difference in how we approached it. 105 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: The only way this can work for the good of 106 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: the nation is for it to be seen as a 107 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: constitutional process that requires judgment, that is based on fact, 108 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: and in which there is a very serious effort to 109 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: work together. I do believe that we have made it 110 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: good start at making this a non partisan effort. We 111 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: intend to communicate a lot through this process. I think 112 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: it's important that we use the precedence that the House 113 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: is used in the past, in particular and the Watergate 114 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: process for the way reports were received and the way 115 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: the matter was handled. At the time we received the 116 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: report from Ken's Starr, it was very clear that he 117 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: was saying, again and again the Clinton was guilty. His 118 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: technical language was President Clinton lied under oath. 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Everybody agreed 153 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: that during the Watergate period the work was seen as 154 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: being really fair, the rules had been really good, and 155 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: so we really wanted to find out how had they 156 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: done it, what had they done And the fact is 157 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: that it was worked in such a bipartisan way and 158 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: it was so open that they got a substantial number 159 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: of Republicans to vote with them, and so we wanted 160 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: to find out were the firm ground rules that would 161 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: enable us to do that. Now, the fact is, when 162 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: you're dealing with that kind of thing, you really want 163 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: to know, how do we bring back to Washington these 164 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: kind of things, And we were very lucky the retired 165 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: chairman actually allowed us to systematically bring all of his 166 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: basic rules back. We really talked it through, and at 167 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: that point we felt that it was very important that 168 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: we use exactly the same rules that the Democrats had used. Now, 169 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: when we did that, we actually had a bipartisan press 170 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: conference with Minority Leader Geppart announcing, for example, that we 171 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: had agreed in a bipartisan basis that we would print 172 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: the entire Star report. This is the opposite of what 173 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: you've seen being done by Chef. We went over backwards 174 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: and said, we want everybody have an opportunity to read 175 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: what Starr had sent. So we agreed to print the 176 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: entire report and to make it available so that people 177 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: could know what was going on the difference between that 178 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: and what happened with Chef is amazing. The Chairman, Peter Rodino, 179 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: was very clear about running a fair and an honest 180 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: approach to this whole thing. Jim Rogan kept a diary 181 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: of this whole experience, who later on, by the way, 182 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 1: wrote a very fine book called Catching the flag that 183 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: he carries you through the entire impeachment process, including the 184 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: trial in the Senate. Unlike Nancy Pelosi, we didn't spend 185 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: two and a half years trying to destroy a president. 186 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: We spent my entire speakership trying to work with the president. 187 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: We achieved a huge number of very big legislative things. 188 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: We managed to work together and negotiate together. I think 189 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: we met some thirty five days to hammer out a 190 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: balanced budget. The only four balanced budgets in your lifetime 191 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: were produced by the Republican Congress and the Democratic President. 192 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: We listened to the wealth of the American people that 193 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: we reach beyond parties, we reach beyond institutions, and we 194 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: find ways to get things done. And when we did 195 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: have to have this very challenging and very difficult process 196 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: of impeachment, we tried to do it in an absolutely 197 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: fair way. So the people would understand that we were, 198 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: in fact trying to give the country a judicial approach, 199 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: something which was the right thing to do. People could say, 200 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: all right, you may not agree with it, And certainly 201 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: as became more and more partisan, people began to really 202 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: sort of go into their separate side. So the longer 203 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: went on, the harder was for any Democrat to be 204 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: with us, and by the way, this is what you're 205 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: seeing right now. The longer goes on, the more difficult 206 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: it is for any Republican to be with the Democrats. 207 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: And frankly, Cheff has handled it so badly that it's 208 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: inconceivable that they're going to get any Republican votes in 209 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: either the House or the Senate because they just think 210 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: that he is a disaster. But the fact is that 211 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 1: when we did vote to have the investigation, the original 212 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: vote to have an impeachment inquiry was in fact one 213 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: which was truly bipartisan, and that's I think was a 214 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: great shock to a lot of Democrats. Candidly, I think 215 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: it was a great shock to President Clinton. So I 216 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: think that it's dramatically different to look at the way 217 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: that Nancy Pelosius set us up. Remember, first of all, 218 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: she just admitted this week she has been thinking about 219 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: this and working on this for two and a half 220 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: years now. That means that for virtually the entire time 221 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: that we've had President Trump in office, the Democratic leader 222 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: of the House and trying to figure out how to 223 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: destroy him. I think that is a remarkable situation. And 224 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: I can't imagine what it would be like to spend 225 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: all your time trying to dig into these things. Second, 226 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: remember when they did decide to do it, they made 227 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: it totally partisan. And the fact is that when they've 228 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: made a totally partisan that it just guaranteed that they 229 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: weren't going to get any kind of support from the Republicans. 230 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: Then that literally is what happened. I think the other 231 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: thing to remember is that the way they handled the 232 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: step in secret is unprecedented. They violated every single principle 233 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: of fairness in the way Shifts set it up, the 234 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: way it was structured, And I think that it's very 235 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: important to recognize this. It was not being done with 236 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: any sense of fairness. It wasn't being done with any 237 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: sense of allowing the Republicans to have a fair opportunity. 238 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: It wasn't being done with any sense of the president 239 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: having a fair opportunity. That's how bad this was. 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We wanted to balance the budget. 267 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: We wanted to modernize the Food and Drug Administration, we 268 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: wanted to modernize telecommunications. We wanted to work on rethinking 269 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: all of our national security issues. In that setting, you 270 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: have to recognize that you couldn't go after all those 271 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: big things if you're going to spend every single day 272 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: plotting how to destroy the president. And so what you 273 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: see here is the opposite. You have a Pelosi led 274 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: left wing Democratic Party which apparently spent virtue all of 275 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: us time, she says, for two and a half years 276 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to destroy President Trump. To 277 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: draw a very sharp distinction between what we did and 278 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: what they did, we actually had an open process. There 279 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: are a number of charges brought up that were voted down. 280 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,959 Speaker 1: For example, on the question of abuse of power, eighty 281 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: one Republicans voted no. But that was the right way 282 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: because it was an open process. We didn't try to 283 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: make sure that we passed every single thing. But here's 284 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: the key. When you were dealing with the President of 285 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: the United States, who is the leader of the country 286 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: under the constitution, the commander in chief. You can't get 287 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: up every morning trying to destroy him. Thank you're somehow 288 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: going to serve the country. Pelosi is very far to 289 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: the left of where President Trump is. She frankly doesn't 290 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: want to get done most of the stuff he wants 291 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: to get done. She's probably infuriated by the degree to 292 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: which he has been successful with judge ships, where he 293 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: and Sender McConnell have done an amazing job and have 294 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: now replaced about one out of every four judges in 295 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: the country with a constitutionally oriented conservative. So from Pelosi's 296 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: ideological standpoint, it's been terrible. We were closer to Clinton, 297 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: it was easier for us to work together, but we 298 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: also had a desire to work together. I mean, the 299 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: fact is, I don't think that Pelosi and her left 300 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: wing team have ever wanted to work together with the president. 301 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: We thought that Clinton was legitimate, and he'd won by 302 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: a good margin in nineteen ninety two, he won by 303 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: a decisive margin in nineteen ninety six. Had never occurred 304 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: to us that he was a legitimate. But if you 305 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: listen to Democrats. They really, from election night on have 306 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: thought that President Trump was illegitimate, that he shouldn't have 307 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,719 Speaker 1: been in the White House. Their job was to get 308 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: him out of the White House. I'm concerned that if 309 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: we don't impeach this president, he will get reelected. I 310 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: support impeaching this president. I will buy every day until 311 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: he is a peace. It may well produce impeachment. We're 312 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: going to go in there winning began impeachment proceedings. Now 313 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: we're introducing articles of impeachment to remove President Trump from office. 314 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: I rise today, missus Speaker, so call for the impeachment 315 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: of the president. You guys are going to be in 316 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: a situation where you would have to prostly take a 317 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: vote on the impeachment. Donald Trump would vote yesterday. I 318 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: would vote yes. I would vote. I would vote impeachpoty 319 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: five and peach boty five and peachety five. They're terrified 320 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: he's going to win re election, and so I think 321 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 1: that's really important. Understand you are dealing with different ideological environment, 322 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: You're dealing with different personalities. Clinton and I were both 323 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: sort of graduate students. We both liked ideas, We liked talking, 324 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: We like getting you know we're comfortable getting together and 325 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: having conversations. I think it's very hard for Pelosi to 326 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: try to deal with President Trump, and I think she 327 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: finds it trying to deal with President Trump is very unpleasant, 328 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: and she doesn't want to do it. We should recognize 329 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: how dramatically different our two situations were, and it's clear 330 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: from what Nancy Pelosi said this last week, not just 331 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: that her junior members or her radical members, but this 332 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: she saw herself for two and a half years trying 333 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: to destroy the president as the leader of the House. 334 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: I hope the country looks at it and realizes that 335 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: this is a genuine dereliction of duty, a fundamentally unconstitutional approach, 336 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: and one where they don't have anything that any outside 337 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: counsel has found him guilty of, so they just keep 338 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: making it up. I was so incensed to what she said, 339 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: because I think we need to set the record state. 340 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: I really urged to go and read the book which 341 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 1: was done about the Pact, because he was surprised. He 342 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: came and interviewed me, and he said he was shocked 343 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: to discover how much Clinton and I worked together, how 344 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: many things we've gotten done, and that we actually had 345 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: planned that we were going to launch at the beginning 346 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: of nineteen ninety eight a very big project to reform 347 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: Medicare and reform so security, and that was all blown 348 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: up by the Lewinsky scandal in the impeachment. So actually 349 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: our interest had been to focus on historic reforms that, 350 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: had we been able to do, it would have made 351 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: this country dramatically healthier and dramatically stronger in his fiscal house, 352 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: I think you'll find it it's a shockingly different than 353 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: the news media version, and that Steve Gillen, who's a professor, 354 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: has on earthed some fascinating conversations, talked to a lot 355 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: of our staff on both sides, and came to a 356 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 1: conclusion of what we were doing was just dramatically different 357 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: than anything he expected. You can read more about the 358 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: Clinton impeachment and read the Star report on our show 359 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: page at newtsworld dot com. Newtsworld is produced by Westwood One. 360 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: Our executive producer is Debbie Myers, and our producer is 361 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 1: Garnsey Sloan. Our editor is Robert Borowski, and our researchers 362 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: Rachel Peterson. Our guest booker is Tamara Coleman. The artwork 363 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: for the show was created by Steve Penley. The music 364 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: was composed by Joey Salvia. Special thanks to the team 365 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: at Gain which Street sixty and Westwood One's John Wardock 366 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: and Robert Mathers. 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General Washington led 375 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: his troops across the river and the next morning surrounded 376 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: the Heshian garrison of Trenton. The Battle of Trent would 377 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 1: become a turning point in the Revolutionary War. I think 378 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: it's fair to say that it was the Christmas miracle 379 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: that made America possible. I'm Nick Gingrich. This is Newsworld, 380 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: the Westwood One podcast network.