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Speaker 2: nineteenth of January twenty twenty two. It's time for Morning Combat.

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Speaker 2: My name is Luke Thomas. I'm nearly one half of

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Speaker 2: your hosting duo. I join you from the nation's capital

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Speaker 2: here in Loci Studus and Niedos. But I am also,

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Speaker 2: as always, joined by the Viceroy, the Prince of Connecticut.

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Speaker 2: My friend in yours it is Senior Dragon ball Bag.

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Speaker 2: I just made that up. It's Brian Campbellhi, Brian, how

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Wow, Hey Luke.

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Speaker 1: You know, great to be back in the lives setting,

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Speaker 1: I know you had that nice, cute little rap lyric

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Speaker 1: I just grammy rolled out of that COVID dead. I didn't.

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Speaker 1: There's that too, all right, No cauliflower dick for me, Luke,

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Speaker 1: I've heard some have you? Have you heard the complainers

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Speaker 1: I don't know about the Taco Bell tie and I just.

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Speaker 2: talk about Francis because if Francis wins or loses, there's

429
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Speaker 2: a whole lot of different permutations that could develop, and

430
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Speaker 2: all of them have pretty significant implications. So let's start

431
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Speaker 2: with the reality be here, b See, Let's say Francis wins, wins,

432
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Speaker 2: you know, if not dominantly, like, there's no question about

433
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Speaker 2: who won by the time he gets his hand raised

434
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Speaker 2: kind of a scenario. Does he re sign or what

435
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Speaker 2: does he do? How does that? How does him winning

436
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Speaker 2: affect his future?

437
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Speaker 1: Okay, so we are both under the working assumption, based

438
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Speaker 1: on either facts or educated takes by the John Nash types,

439
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Speaker 1: that if Francis wins, he gets the championship clause will

440
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Speaker 1: kick in a certain number of automatic extra fights. Is

441
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Speaker 1: that true? Yes, Okay, I believe.

442
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Speaker 2: Wins.

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Speaker 1: I think if he wins, Luke, it's like ninety five

444
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Speaker 1: percent that he returns to the UFC. There would still

445
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Speaker 1: be needed work to be done, not only on negotiating

446
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Speaker 1: a new deal, but I think even further on the

447
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Speaker 1: UFC showing some sincere interim good faith to Francis, meaning

448
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Speaker 1: this Francis wins, will say, Okay, we'll sit down. We're

449
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Speaker 1: gonna get you a new deal. Let's figure it out.

450
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Speaker 1: But Francis really want certain things, Luke, one of them

451
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Speaker 1: seeming to be that boxing match, which we can debate

452
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Speaker 1: at nauseum whether we really think Dana would work with

453
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Speaker 1: Bob Aram and make a Tyson Fury versus you know,

454
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Speaker 1: Francis thing that would make a lot of money but

455
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Speaker 1: would be weird and Francis couldn't win it. Or is

456
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Speaker 1: there just you know, some bag of cash that they

457
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Speaker 1: can give him in the interim that just makes everyone happy.

458
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Speaker 1: I say that because I really believe, Luke, that winning

459
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Speaker 1: cures everything. It cures locker room issues, and financially, I

460
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Speaker 1: think if Francis goes out there and knocks him out,

461
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Speaker 1: he's in another tax get already because of that right

462
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Speaker 1: He's he will have completely fulfilled every inch of his

463
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Speaker 1: potential in this short term right here. So he's gonna

464
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Speaker 1: demand the money, He's gonna get it. Everyone's gonna be happy,

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Speaker 1: We'll move forward. It's really about the lost Luke to

466
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Speaker 1: me over everything you know? Can they still if he loses,

467
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Speaker 1: could they still promise him enough to where he goes? Yeah,

468
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Speaker 1: this is still my best move? Or how angry is he?

469
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure, Luke? All we get? Are you know?

470
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Speaker 1: Interviews in which he's talking generally about it, Dana saying

471
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Speaker 1: he ran into him at a steakhouse and he repaired everything.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about that either. Okay. I generally agree

473
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Speaker 2: with your analysis about what happens if he wins, But

474
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Speaker 2: the one that gets more interesting is what happens if

475
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Speaker 2: he loses. Now again, I'm not gonna say he gets,

476
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Speaker 2: you know, completely demolished. But let's say in the end,

477
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Speaker 2: gone wins and everyone basically agrees the right guy won.

478
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Speaker 2: Now what happens? What is your best sense of things?

479
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Speaker 2: Because right you have to ask yourself, what is the

480
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Speaker 2: best chance for Francis to make the most out of

481
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Speaker 2: thirty three, let's say thirty seven eight? Is it staying

482
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Speaker 2: with UFC or is it doing something else? Or do

483
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Speaker 2: you even think of is there a scenario BC where

484
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Speaker 2: he could leave UFC and then go back. Some people

485
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 2: have done that. That has happened before, but it happened

486
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Speaker 2: in a very different kind of era. What's your sense

487
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Speaker 2: Like UFC folks may not know this. UFC had a

488
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Speaker 2: huge beef with Bjpenn back in the day because he

489
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Speaker 2: I think was champion wanted they want him to defend it.

490
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Speaker 2: He said, fucking dropped the title and then went to

491
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Speaker 2: k one anyway, you know, and then he was brought

492
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Speaker 2: back at a later time. So they have had that.

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Speaker 2: But Francis just seems like, I don't They're in no

494
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Speaker 2: man's land right now.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me let me ask you this, you know,

496
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Speaker 1: let me let me follow a certain carpenter and answer

497
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Speaker 1: your question with a question by saying, is there a

498
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Speaker 1: level to how Engan who loses, to how he looks

499
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Speaker 1: in defeat that could alter the power of his brand

500
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Speaker 1: into free agency where that he would be smart enough

501
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Speaker 1: to identify that and say, you know what, my best

502
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Speaker 1: course of action might actually be, Steve a trilogy, try

503
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Speaker 1: to lure John Jones, you know whatever. In terms of

504
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Speaker 1: transitioning out. What if he gets completely solved by God

505
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: and he guesses out and he struggles to make the

506
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Speaker 1: finish line for a wide decision loss, he may have

507
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Speaker 1: to come back Luke, right, I mean, you know you're

508
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Speaker 1: always gonna get money from a Bellot or a PFL.

509
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Speaker 1: But can you get everything and the potential of everything

510
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Speaker 1: you're looking.

511
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Speaker 2: Well, he can get the boxing potentially with that. I mean,

512
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Speaker 2: if you lose, right, a the interest in a potential

513
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 2: Tyson Fury fight, however remote that might be, that goes away, right,

514
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Speaker 2: So you have to win at least have to be

515
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Speaker 2: on the table. And is it even really plausible with

516
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Speaker 2: a win with UFC, Like they're really going to bend

517
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Speaker 2: over backwards like they did for Connor that one time

518
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Speaker 2: for Floyd. I mean that seems unlikely as well. I

519
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: just don't know. The thing you have to ask yourself

520
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Speaker 2: if you're Francis here is again, he's thirty three, I think,

521
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Speaker 2: or roughly he can probably go to about thirty seven

522
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Speaker 2: thirty he's thirty thirty five.

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Speaker 1: Luke, you don't have to wait till Friday to get

524
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Speaker 1: to get dead wrong you've been saying for a week

525
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Speaker 1: he's thirty three.

526
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Speaker 2: Let me let me just terrify your fucking fake news,

527
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 2: all right? So whatever? Even then, even then, like, where

528
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 2: are you gonna go for the next five years to

529
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 2: make that kind of money unless you can really blaze

530
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Speaker 2: a path that hasn't been blazed before, where you know,

531
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Speaker 2: you do the celebrity kind of thing where maybe that's

532
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: an option for you, you could do it, but the reality

533
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 2: just remains, where are you gonna make the majority of

534
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 2: your money? Unless he's got a really careful plan, the

535
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Speaker 2: answers to.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Luke, let me ask you this.

537
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Speaker 1: Is there a lane in which he could become kind

538
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Speaker 1: of a fade or in a sense that let's say

539
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Speaker 1: he goes elsewhere Okay, does boxing, does turler, try whatever,

540
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: but inevitably he'll end up doing mma. Let's say he

541
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Speaker 1: goes to belt or wins it everywey championship and just

542
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 1: like destroys everybody, like bait or Rumble, Moldovskam, whoever they

543
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: can put at him, I mean, just just destroying people.

544
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Speaker 1: Can he in short time sort of develop this fade

545
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Speaker 1: or mysterious must see but not in the USC reputation

546
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: that could either fuel a big money return or just

547
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 1: be enough on its own to be like, you know what,

548
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: I'm in control of my destiny, iviy.

549
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Speaker 2: I think if he gets audited, it's kind of hard.

550
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 2: I think if he loses, But there's something redemptive about it.

551
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 2: It's not that big, or I won't be as big

552
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 2: a deal. I mean, here's the thing that you got

553
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: to remember about Francis. Dude, even if he gets audited

554
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: by Cyril, which again may not happen, but let's say

555
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 2: that he does. Dude, it's not like we don't know

556
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 2: if he can beat anybody else. This is not some

557
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: Marlon Moriss situation where once your style is kind of

558
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 2: figured out, it's hard to know exactly who you can beat.

559
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 2: At that point, we already know we can be. The

560
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 2: answer is probably everybody else, right, it's everybody else. So

561
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 2: then you have to ask yourself, if you've lost to

562
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 2: a guy, what does the loss tell you about your

563
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 2: chances here and what the best situation is, because there

564
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 2: could be a situation where he loses controversially and still

565
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: decides to go, knowing that there's just a freshet of

566
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 2: opponents he can box on CBS or whatever the you know,

567
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: some situation they could invent for him. It's it's very

568
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: very complicated about what could happen here, depending on the

569
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: nature of a win or a loss and how those

570
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 2: things look. I just mean to say, it's he's in

571
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: a he's in a he's in a many ways an

572
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: enviable spot, in many ways an unenviable spot given the

573
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Speaker 2: uncertainty in the battle of the promoters and where the

574
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Speaker 2: money is in combat sports and what kind of access

575
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Speaker 2: he actually has to it.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think that's all fair real quickly to

577
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Speaker 1: close that point. I know, if Francis wins, and if

578
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Speaker 1: this boxing thing ever did take shape, let's say Disney

579
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Speaker 1: got involved and was like, look, Dana, we need you

580
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 1: to do this. Francis versus Tyson Fury, even with a

581
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Speaker 1: four ound squaw. Look, okay, you know it's it's you'll

582
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: see it. There's something there to see, but nobody's gonna

583
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: be excited. Would you be a lot more excited just

584
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: from a competitive standpoint if it was like Deontay Wilder

585
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: against Francis and Ghana, Yeah.

586
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: Because or even somebody else even well I won't say you, Joshua,

587
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 2: but I'll say like a Ruiz or something like that,

588
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 2: where you know that frame, this has a pretty good

589
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 2: chin and you know he can hit hard. That might

590
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: be valuable against Tyson Fury. It's like, dude, what the

591
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: fuck is the point You're gonna get demolished? But yes,

592
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: that would change things a little bit for me. But

593
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: you know, top rank has Tyson, Top rank doesn't have Deontae,

594
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 2: Top rank doesn't have Andy Ruiz. Top rank doesn't have

595
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: a lot of these guys. So we'll see yeall yell

596
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: at Crick shot the fuck up? All right? Topic number

597
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: two the rest of the UFC two seventy story lines.

598
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: B See we said this on I'm not sure how

599
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,479
Speaker 2: much were the more we can say about it. Honestly,

600
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: this co main event. It's a great flyweight fight. I

601
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: think most people expect Brandon Moreno to win, but there

602
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: is not a lot of buzz about this fight whatsoever.

603
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: I think the hardcore is the hard seem to respect it.

604
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: I don't see people shitting on it, but I don't

605
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: see people like up and arms great way.

606
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: You respect it because you know what you're gonna get

607
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: and it's in all that. But and I'm not saying

608
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Speaker 1: this to Devalue figurread O, because I'm gonna bring up

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Speaker 1: a Figuraedo question a second to show you how much

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Speaker 1: I'm not devaluing here. But like there's a you know,

611
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Speaker 1: a working narrative that like, okay, UFC might feel like

612
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: this is the time to kind of cash out the

613
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Speaker 1: extreme value of the one twenty five main eventing version

614
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Speaker 1: of Figaredo and Brandon Burrito's coming, and it's the per

615
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna get action even beyond that selling point. Luke,

616
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Speaker 1: I want to ask you this, it's not getting the

617
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: love it deserves. It's also not a fight that that

618
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: is needed. It's got some Camaro masudal two feels to

619
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Speaker 1: a smaller degree, But are we overlooking this part of

620
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Speaker 1: Davison Figaredo's chances. The Henry Sahudo factor. Now do you

621
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Speaker 1: you remember when Jungwai Lee brought in Henry Sahudo for

622
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: her last camp in the Rosary match and we're in

623
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Speaker 1: you know, it was sort of like, hey, look, hipster

624
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Speaker 1: sneaky storyline here, what if the combination of Suhudo and

625
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: the captain Eric Albara Sin can you know, really fill

626
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: the missing holes in a Trevor Whitman type way but

627
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: almost in reverse. And Luke, we kind of saw that

628
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: you can make a strong case that Bailey beat Rose

629
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Speaker 1: in the rematch and she sort of filled some holes

630
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Speaker 1: around it at her game. It could this be that

631
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,719
Speaker 1: fountain of youth drink, not that he's old that Figuredo

632
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: could could need to be a larger threat in this

633
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: rematch in this trilogy about than.

634
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Speaker 2: Where he was thirty four and at one twenty five.

635
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Speaker 2: That's if.

636
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's old, that's old.

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Speaker 2: That brand in December turned twenty eight. He just turned

638
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Speaker 2: twenty eight. I mean, you have to ask yourself, right,

639
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: these guys fought when they fought Moreno and Figuredo, they

640
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: fought the first time in December of twenty twenty back

641
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: when he was what twenty six or right around that moment.

642
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Speaker 2: Then they fought in June of twenty twenty one, So

643
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: they fought about seven months later, give or take, and

644
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: the difference between them was extraordinary in just seven months.

645
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: Look at how much better Brandon Moreno was. He is

646
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: at the point where he is entering or east maybe

647
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: at but certainly at the very beginning stages of his

648
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: true physical prime in MMA, and you're seeing evidence of

649
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 2: in quick succession. Right, we've talked about these guys at

650
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: twenty six, twenty seven to twenty eight, where they get

651
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,719
Speaker 2: better so much faster. If you're thirty four and one

652
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 2: twenty five, you can you can definitely change tactics and

653
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: you can pick up a couple of different things along

654
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: the way. That part is true, But you are more

655
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: or less at the technical peak of what you're ever

656
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: going to become. That is about as far more or

657
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 2: less at that weight class as you are going to go.

658
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: That's not the case whatsoever for a guy like Brandon Marino.

659
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 2: You already saw the progress you have much more in

660
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: front of him. I like Brandon Reno big, and I

661
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: think a lot of people kind of expect that based

662
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: on the fact that whateverything else we've said, and on

663
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: top of a BC you know this a lot of

664
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: Mma trilogies, everyone's the second one who usually decides the third.

665
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: I don't see why it would be any different.

666
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: Well, I want to hold that thought. Hold that thought

667
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: for one second. You didn't answer the core of my question, though,

668
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: beyond saying rightfully that Marino should be the favorite, and

669
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: to some degree, you could even go further and say, man,

670
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: he might even finish him quicker. I don't know, but

671
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: you don't think this is hudo ELBERSI in factor, I mean, didn't.

672
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: Answer it directly, but I sort of did. Like the

673
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: answer would be, like, do I respect the abilities of

674
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Speaker 2: someone like Henry Sujuto and Eric Elbaiersini. Yes, of course

675
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: I do, and I thought that there was a real

676
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: noticeable difference in johng Wi Lee. To your point, absolutely

677
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 2: ticket Seriously, this is not something where Brandon Reno could

678
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: just show up and win no matter what he does.

679
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 2: I don't believe that. I think he's gonna have to

680
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 2: earn it. I don't think necessarily he will finish Devison quicker.

681
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 2: I just don't think that the outcome will necessarily change

682
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: a little bit different. But what I would say to

683
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: the question about Sahuto, Yeah, dude, I think he can

684
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: do a lot. But at age thirty four, how much

685
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 2: can even the very best coach on earth do for you?

686
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: The answer is some. The answer is potentially enough to

687
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: change your fortunes. But not much, is the answer. There's

688
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 2: only a little bit they can do for you once

689
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: you get to that advanced developed stage, and I just

690
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: we have to realize that.

691
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: To your point, all on great trilogies in boxing in MMA,

692
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: we don't have like stats in front of us to

693
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: prove it. But I would guess to your point that

694
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: the fighter who wins the second fight historically has a

695
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: larger percentage of winning the third, which is part of

696
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Speaker 1: what Figuraedo's up against, along with the age and the

697
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: fact that Moreno is a stock that's rising. But I'd

698
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: like to see the specific percentages in big fight history

699
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: of someone who got finished in the second fight and

700
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 1: then came back to win the third, along with regaining

701
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: the title at thirty four. This would be huge for

702
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: a sort of like Figaredo's legacy and all that. Look,

703
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: this would be a monumental task. If you come back

704
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: from getting finished and then you beat the younger person

705
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: who's on the rise in the.

706
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: Trill, no doubt about that. That would be absolutely fucking huge

707
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: if you did. If they did that, shit, they might

708
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: fight a fourth time. To be honest with you, you mean

709
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 2: we might start getting.

710
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: I mean, who has that ever happened? Am I forgetting

711
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: somebody that got finished in a rematch and then won

712
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: the third fight? Who am I? Who am I forgetting.

713
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 2: Someone getting finished in the rematch and then winning the

714
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 2: third fight? Rampage, rampage, I think got finished in the

715
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: rematch with vander Lay and then won the third one.

716
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: It can happen, And that was monster gap of years between.

717
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 2: Two and three, A much gap happened.

718
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so that right?

719
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: Right? That all? Yeah?

720
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: For sure? I mean, look at Chuck and Tito, Luke, Luke,

721
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 1: look at Chuck and Tito, right, I see, Luke. Stop

722
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: looking at Chuck and Tito.

723
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: Michelle Pereiro versus Andre Fialo on this card, do you

724
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: hear give a fuck at all?

725
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I care for Michelle Paeda and every fight.

726
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: Now we debate it is is he taking it as

727
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: serious as he did in that one? What was the

728
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: fight Luke where he took it super freakin' ass serious

729
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: and looked like a the welter Way killer which fights.

730
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: Him in the Nico Price contest?

731
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I might. I might have done that, Luke.

732
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: Obviously we want to see a balanced but you know,

733
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: the whole thing here is Luke, he's running out of

734
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: time because I believe he's older than we think. But

735
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: at the same time, there is an angle here for

736
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: him to make a run if he can find that balance.

737
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: But I think since that, Luke, and maybe fighting Nico

738
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: Price brings it out of you, I've seen him, you know,

739
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: dip back into the drugs a bit here, Luke. I'm

740
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: not I'm not convinced that he can stay sober enough

741
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: to bring out the best within himself, Luke, because he

742
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: gets so high on performing. Like me, Luke, right, really

743
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 1: like me. Turn out I'm a red light type guy, Luke.

744
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: I don't mean the red light district. I mean, you know,

745
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: I could be on my deathbed. But you turn that

746
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: camera on, Luke, and I'm I'm bringing it, Luke right now,

747
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm bringing it. But the point is, I don't know

748
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: if he's of that same milk you know in this

749
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: regard with that. Can he can he pull back at

750
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,439
Speaker 1: the right time, Luke? Can he sober up?

751
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 2: You tell me, Luke, stay to take it on. We've

752
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 2: talked about this a big fight for Cody Stateman, who,

753
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 2: by the way, has lost four No, he's lost his

754
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 2: last two and had a draw against song Ya Dawn,

755
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: so he's two to one and one in his last

756
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 2: four or excuse me, one two and one, So he's

757
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: gonna need to be in the right side of things.

758
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: The prelim cards, You've got Judelpho Vieira back against Wellington

759
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: termin not that interesting. H Haleni Barcellos who is pretty

760
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 2: good against Victor Henry. The one that stands out. We've

761
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: talked about it. It's now a replacement fight, Ilio Porto

762
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 2: taking on now Charles Jordat you gotta love Charles Jordan

763
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: short notice against maybe the top rising prospect in all

764
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: of this division. Great prospect himself, by the way, love

765
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 2: this from the Canadian.

766
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm really glad that Tupuria made it back on the card. Look,

767
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: because this card's been ravaged by COVID and it is.

768
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 2: Alexi Olenik and Greg Hardy was supposed to be on

769
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: this card. It got moved for undisclosed reasons to.

770
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: Then they got Sergei Spivak in there, and then he

771
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: and then Hardy now there.

772
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: Now it's going to be at two seventy two Greg

773
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 2: Hardy versus Sergei Spivak. So that's fun. I'm trying to

774
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 2: look at the rest of this card. There's not a

775
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: whole lot on it.

776
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: Bro Well, Luke, I gotta ask you a key question

777
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: about the rest of this card to be fair. Outside

778
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: of the title fights, it sucks. I'm not saying it's

779
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: all the UFC's fault, but are you getting with this

780
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: narrative that you see show up in the in the

781
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: comments or the message boards or whoever these keyboard warriors

782
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 1: like me, hang out, Luke that the UFC is trying

783
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: to fuh, you know, trying to fu in Ganu either way,

784
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: and just say okay, just in case he you know,

785
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: wins and thinks he carries the ball around here. Yo, dude,

786
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: this pay per view tanked? Is there anything to that, Luke,

787
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: because they they do water down the Connor pay per

788
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: views because they know.

789
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 2: I don't think that they would ever intentionally sabotage their

790
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: own pay per views. However, they're not going to go

791
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: out of their way to do him any favors either,

792
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: right when they they probably plan to have certain cards

793
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 2: that are pretty big and certain cards that are not

794
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: pretty big. That's all strategic that has nothing to do

795
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: with Francis or whatever. But I also believe that they

796
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: put Francis on the cards where they know they're not

797
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: gonna give him a lot of help to make him

798
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: more money. Like they're not gonna put Francis on a

799
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: Connor mc gregor card. They're not gonna do him that solid.

800
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: But they're not gonna be like, hey, let's fucking ruin

801
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: ourselves and the just to stick at to frances No,

802
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: they're not gonna do that either.

803
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: So looke in terms of dirt bag techniques, just absolute,

804
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: outright like, like you said, they wouldn't sabotage your own

805
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: brand if they did. It's that's a straight up dirt

806
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: bag technique that I'm sure gets done a lot in business.

807
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: But given the history of Dana and the Fertidas, and

808
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: now of course with the new owners, do you think

809
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 1: that's happened way more than we already know or think,

810
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: or do you think it's a little bit overblown the

811
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: idea that like Dana and Brass are so big on

812
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: themselves that they they'd straight up to.

813
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 2: Me from the stories I've heard, there's a lot that

814
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: they'll do to stick it to someone, But like tanking

815
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: their own show, I've not heard that. I've heard of

816
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 2: every other thing.

817
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: I mean, they have the right makeup to pull off

818
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: moves like that, though, Luke, it's it's not a it's

819
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: not a it's not a real distance of personality in

820
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 1: that I just don't have the proof.

821
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 2: Of their balls on fire just to stick it to

822
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 2: somebody else whatever that would mean.

823
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: Uh oh oh, they are, Luke. I mean I once

824
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 1: started in a four minute video.

825
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: All right, So there's that the point being is I

826
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 2: just don't think it would get to that, but one

827
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: never knows exactly. All Right, Topic number three BC, let's

828
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 2: move on from UFC two seventy. Let's talk about this one.

829
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 2: So it was reported by I want to make sure

830
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: I do, I do, I do? Uh? Hold on, read

831
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 2: this gentleman's work on Twitter when I can translate it,

832
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 2: but I want to point out this Global Global Combace's

833
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 2: Hafael Mourinho reports that the Lioness Amanda Nunez is leaving

834
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 2: ATT to start her own gym in the South Florida area. BC.

835
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 2: Is this big news, small news or we don't quite

836
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 2: know what it means news?

837
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: Well, the answer is we don't quite know yet because

838
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: there's other points of interest that need to come out

839
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: that that could decide more, including seeing her fight again

840
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: to see if that was just a one off aberration

841
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: in the way that Amanda imploded against Juliana Pania. But Luke,

842
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: it has the potential to be really big if you

843
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: are willing to tie in this factor that Kayla Harrison

844
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: may be coming on over to the UFC. And we've

845
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: seen whether this factors in or not. You know, Coach

846
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: Dan Lambert of att say publicly a million times he

847
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: doesn't want them to fight each other they you know,

848
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: although they're gonna have to if they're in the same

849
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: you know so promotion. So from that standpoint, could I

850
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: talk myself into some kind of like John Jones versus

851
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: Rashad Evans type teammate exit you're gonna go with them

852
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: over me? It could be who knows, but I know

853
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: that we saw a report just yesterday for Mariel Juana

854
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: even who who says, you know, PFL looks to be

855
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: the favorite to resign Kayla. That felt very well timed

856
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: and strategic from my point of view. You know, it

857
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: could be true and there could be about to sign it,

858
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: but that looked like it was a pr move just

859
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: the same to maybe try to tie something up. But

860
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: if Kayla Harrison's going to the UFC, then this this

861
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,439
Speaker 1: is gonna say a lot. This is a big deal, Luke,

862
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: And I think in general it's still a big deal

863
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: because of the really poor performer she just had and

864
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: whether that is you know, a realization of what's going

865
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: on with her, or whether that was just a really

866
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: bad night at the office and she's taken her what

867
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: you know, so taking Nino with her on the surface, Louve,

868
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: you're you're late. You're leaving the dream team. On the surface,

869
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: You're leaving the best team in the game right now.

870
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: So that can't be a good thing.

871
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: Because what coaches she takes with her, She's had a

872
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: really strong bond with a few of them, including but

873
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 2: especially Conan Silvera. I'd be curious to see if Conan

874
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: goes with her because Conan has been Conan's son, who's,

875
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 2: by the way, one of the top prospects in all

876
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 2: of MMA trains at att Conan has been the backbone

877
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 2: of that gym for as long as it's been around,

878
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 2: quite frankly, so that would be interesting.

879
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: He has he's like the Papa Bear Luke. He I mean,

880
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: he kind of like is the heart and soul of

881
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: what even though I've called him Brazilian Shrek before, Luke

882
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: and you've gotten mad at me.

883
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a great question is like, does he go too?

884
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 2: I don't know how that goes. I mean, there's a

885
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 2: lot here, right, so how much of this is related

886
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 2: to the laws specifically? I mean it has been pointed

887
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: out that when folks don't really realize this, when she

888
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: first moved to Florida. Actually, let's back up a step.

889
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 2: She first started training with I went to the gym

890
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 2: she I don't think a lot of folks know this.

891
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if she trained directly with the Miller Brothers,

892
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: but she trained in the Miller Brothers gym when she

893
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 2: first got to America up in New Jersey. I had

894
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 2: that told to me by a lot of the different

895
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 2: people who were actually at that gym. Then she left

896
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: and went to MMA Masters after her first loss or

897
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 2: her first eth Huh.

898
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: She live Luke. She lived at MMA a long time.

899
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 1: She was like down on her luck Francis.

900
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 2: Dono and then switched it around and then went to

901
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: ATT And it's been more or less, you know, not

902
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: last fight, notwithstanding pretty smooth sailing. I mean, she's obviously

903
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: done quite well for herself. So is she leaving because

904
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: it's a combo of the fact that she lost and

905
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 2: it's Kayla going to UFC or has nothing to do

906
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: with Kayla, And it's strictly the loss there has been.

907
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: By the way, a few departures from ATT Hearts know

908
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 2: exactly what that means. A lot of coaches have left

909
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 2: Via Phil Deeru who left, Dean Thomas who left? You know,

910
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 2: fighters come and go. That's less of an issue, But

911
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: I really wonder if for something else. There's a lot

912
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 2: of moving parts to the story, then the last one. Dude,

913
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 2: it's about Amanda. I mean, you know, listen, she had

914
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: a kid, Dude. A kid will change your focus in

915
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 2: life and it will pull you in ways you're not

916
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 2: you know, anticipating. And she's beaten everyone she was supposed

917
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 2: to again last fight notwithstanding, but it beats all the

918
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,439
Speaker 2: greats of her generation. Who knows where her fucking head

919
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 2: is at, if this is even a good decision for her.

920
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 2: I have no idea. We'll have to see, but the

921
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 2: amount of unknowns are high, but the amount of questions

922
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: just as high.

923
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: Look, how does the att who You know, there's a

924
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: lot of great gyms. It's not that it's Att and

925
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: everybody else, but you know, they're winning the awards, they

926
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 1: seem to be the all star gym of the moment.

927
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 1: How do they avoid being like a Jackson Wink where

928
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: you're the hot one of the moment and suddenly you

929
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: have all the resources and everyone's coming to you, and

930
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: then inevitably, when that happens, and you get great success.

931
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 1: Some people will leave and you get diluted a bit.

932
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: How do they avoid? How do you ar? Maybe the

933
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: better question is how do you stay at that top

934
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: when that inevitence.

935
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: Is the issue of how they run their gyms. I'm

936
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 2: a little bit the wrong guy to ask, but I

937
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 2: can tell you what I do know. Part of in

938
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: Rashad can probably speak to this, actually because he was

939
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 2: part of the early exodus that happened around this time.

940
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 2: It was initially that there was this group of people

941
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 2: at Jackson's. So it was Diego, Nate, Markquark, eventually gsp

942
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 2: Keith Jardine right, some of these original Albuquerque folks Jardine

943
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: recruit say again kind it see Carlos Knit was original

944
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 2: Jackson's guy, Carlos kandit started across town at fit NHB

945
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: and then eventually went over. But the long story short

946
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 2: is that it was a It was a relatively small

947
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 2: group a dozen or less that was known as Jackson's right.

948
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 2: That was that group, and it was all the famous

949
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 2: UFC fighters, and then they brought in John Jones eventually,

950
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: but Jackson's model has changed. Now they have dorms that

951
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 2: they've built they become a much bigger thing. People come,

952
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 2: people go. Greg Jackson, I don't even sure how much

953
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: he coaches anymore. So that initial band of like you know,

954
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: nine to a dozen UFC fighters that just ballooned into

955
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: something else. The model changed and you heard Don Seroni

956
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 2: talk about the puppy that was there and why he

957
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 2: left and everything else. Serrounding probably one of the original

958
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: ones as well. ATT never did that. Att May in

959
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 2: its original days under Hakardo Laboreo, it might have been

960
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 2: a smaller group, but basically from early early stage they

961
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 2: had dorms. From an early stage, they were much more

962
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 2: of a gym, whereas like, let's give you as bigg

963
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 2: as possible. People can come, people can go. It's okay.

964
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 2: So they've weathered this storm that a lot of other

965
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: gyms couldn't. Where it was like, okay, aka is John Fitch,

966
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 2: it's cost Check, it's Kine, It's like five other guys,

967
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 2: and then that's it. No one else can be aka.

968
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 2: ATT was never that way. ATT was We're fucking enormous.

969
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 2: We're always going to be enormous. People will come and go.

970
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 2: We'll have a giant four staff. Get what you get,

971
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: like what you like and be on your way, and

972
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 2: so they've been able to play the levels a lot

973
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: easier over time.

974
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: Look, what do you think is most important? Because the

975
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: real answer is is it all matters? But for a

976
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: gym to go from being you know, good, to great

977
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: and being the gym of the moment, is it the

978
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: fighter quality or is it the coaching? And then also

979
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: the culture? Like again, the answer is all of it.

980
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: But what do you think is the most important, because

981
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: sometimes what makes these gyms so great is, like you

982
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: mentioned with that original Jackson wing group, you just get

983
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: a special group of six, seven, eight guys who are

984
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: all going to be great fighters at the end of

985
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: the day, and they push each other and it feels like,

986
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: oh my god, this gym's amazing. But it really just

987
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: may be we have a special class sort of like

988
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: how my high school class, Luke Naugata class in ninety six.

989
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: We didn't make it in life, Luke, but you know

990
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: all the other classes of all these great superstars and

991
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: athletes and good looking girls, and you know, I don't

992
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: know what they put in the water in nineteen seventy eight,

993
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: but we you know, we didn't get out of first case.

994
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 2: I think the special thing with ATT is one, Florida

995
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 2: cost of living is low, right, So there's that. I

996
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: think two. It's just it just has everything right. It's like,

997
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: why would you leave somewhere to go to ATT, Probably

998
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 2: because under one roof you can get coaching, straight and conditioning,

999
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 2: world class training partners. If you want to come, you

1000
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 2: can come. If you want to leave, you can leave.

1001
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: There's just a lot of benefits to it. It just

1002
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 2: fits a lot of different people's lifestyles by being very

1003
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 2: accommodating in terms of what their facilities and human resources offer.

1004
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 2: But remember, folks don't realize this. So there used to

1005
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 2: be this term in Brazilian jiu jitsu called creanch. It's

1006
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 2: spelled c r eo nte creanch and it comes from

1007
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 2: a character who was on a Brazilian soap opera back

1008
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: in the day. But it used to be somebody who

1009
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 2: would like train at a gym and everyone's like, we're family,

1010
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 2: and then they go to a new gym and like, oh,

1011
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 2: you're a trader. You're a creanch. That's what they would

1012
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: call you. You don't hear that a lot anymore. They don't

1013
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 2: buy a lot of these jiu jitsu gym. Some of

1014
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 2: them still do it, but a lot of them don't

1015
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 2: buy into these like old school like once you're with us,

1016
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: your fucking family, that's it, blah blah blah blah. And

1017
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 2: so I think just att offers a really helpful situation

1018
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 2: to a lot of fighters. But it's transactional, like you

1019
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: pay your dues, you show up, you get what you get.

1020
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 2: You can make relationships if you want, and if you

1021
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 2: don't like this fuck off, you can go do something else.

1022
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 2: It's flexibility. It's it's great.

1023
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: On that sand Yeah, yeah, now, Luke, I couldn't help.

1024
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: But notice, speaking of Jim's that you're wearing the Factory

1025
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: Town MMA MK T shirt that I believe will eventually

1026
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: be on sale. So I was thinking, like, you know,

1027
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: great gyms need a backbone, but sometimes they need two brains.

1028
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: You know, they're better than one and two all. You know,

1029
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: Jackson and a Wink, would you be willing to come

1030
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: in with me on Factory Town MMA and be the

1031
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: you know, I'll handle the marketing and the business side,

1032
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: but you are the coach, the technique giver, and you know,

1033
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: like Jackson and Wink bringing their own things. You know,

1034
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: I'm looking for hard nose factory type, you know, grinders,

1035
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: and you could bring in all the Latin bbls you want,

1036
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: so it kind of be the best of both worlds mix.

1037
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 2: I don't need to leave MK for that, but if

1038
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 2: that was a real job, I would leave MK for it.

1039
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 2: That's a real thing. So that's that. Love to see

1040
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 2: what happens, all right. Topic number four B see this one.

1041
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: I don't know what to say about it. I look

1042
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 2: to see what other lawyers were saying about it. People

1043
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 2: seem to think it's frivolous. But Terrence Crawford, who is

1044
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: no longer with Top Rank, has in fact sued them

1045
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 2: and sued Bob Aram for what he claims is religious

1046
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 2: one of religious I'm sorry, racial discrimination. Crawford has alleged

1047
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: many things, not limited to breach of contract as well

1048
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: as fraudulent and negligent misrepresentation, and claims Aram and Top

1049
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: Rank failed to follow through on promises, for example, to

1050
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: secure a unification fight with Errol Spence and that he

1051
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 2: is nicer too white and Latino fighters, and went out

1052
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 2: of his way to sabotage him because in fact he

1053
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 2: was black BC for a guy like Bob Aram, who's

1054
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 2: been promoting Black Fighters since the mid of the twentieth

1055
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 2: century when Jim Crow laws were still in effect. I

1056
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 2: have to tell you I don't know what to make

1057
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 2: of Crawford because he hasn't we haven't. We haven't seen

1058
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: the evidence yet, so we should be very clear about that.

1059
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: But I'm a little skeptical about this lawsuit. What do

1060
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 2: you think.

1061
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: I won't. Yeah, so obviously the lawsuit seems to be

1062
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: not a joke. But you know, an f you some

1063
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: sort of like leverage situation for pr or even just

1064
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: to get back at Bob from Team Crawford. We can

1065
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: debate the sort of motive on that, but yeah, you know,

1066
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: you saw Muhammad Ali's daughter, who's the mother of a

1067
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: you know, Nico Ali wash Walsh, this top rank I

1068
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: want to say prospector really he's just a sort of

1069
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: like a reality TV star at this point in terms

1070
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: of the fights they roll him out, and you know, say, obviously,

1071
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: look at Bob's history with you know, Black Fighters and

1072
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: great success with Muhammed, and they loved each other, like like,

1073
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 1: is Bob aram morasis?

1074
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:29,479
Speaker 2: Is this real?

1075
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: No, there's enough reason to say it's not. But I

1076
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: think the other questions are along with what's the true

1077
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: motive of this lawsuit is? Is Bob a cantankerous asshole

1078
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: to everyone you know? And yeah, absolutely you know it.

1079
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: Has Bob given up on fighters at certain points, like

1080
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: Germal Riggandal when he promoted them right at the peak

1081
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 1: of Riggandou's biggest win ever against Nonino Dnair. What did

1082
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: Bob do on the stage or Radio City Music Hall afterwards?

1083
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 1: To me and the other boxing reporters complain that Riggandal

1084
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: will never sell with hist his style. That's at the

1085
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: peak moment where Bob could have grabbed the mic and

1086
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: was like, you don't know what you're seeing. This is

1087
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: brilliant amateur boxing. No one's ever been this great. He's

1088
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: the next Floyd Mayweather. Like you could have done something

1089
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: like that, and Bob just shot on him. Okay, well

1090
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: that's happened to riggin'dow in Crawford. You could argue Luke

1091
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: kind of got shot on in key moments as well,

1092
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: when Bob tried to make a public point about how

1093
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: Terrence doesn't sell and we've lost money on him. Does

1094
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: Bob go too far? Yes, he's an old bastard, Luke.

1095
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 1: He's got a long history of going too far. But

1096
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: is it you know, necessarily race fuel that it'd be

1097
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: hard to prove that and I don't believe that. But Luke,

1098
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: what's the reason then, because you can't win this lawsuit,

1099
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: So what's the reason. Is this a pr stunt to

1100
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: get Crawford's name out there as he looks for free agents?

1101
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: Because I don't know if you saw this Tim Smith,

1102
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: who sort of you know, the works for the PBC

1103
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: and in some degree, since Al Hayman doesn't speak to

1104
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: the media, Tim Smith can sometimes become a mouthpiece for

1105
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: the PBC. Former boxer Ran a great guy. But he

1106
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 1: did an interview and I'm not sure which podcast, and

1107
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to could have been the PBC podcast,

1108
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: but where he talked about, hey, you know, can we

1109
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: make Spence Crawford if if Crawford comes to PBC and

1110
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 1: even he Luke delivered that same like, well, I don't know, man,

1111
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: Terrence just doesn't sell line. So again, that could be public,

1112
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: you know, jockeying to get ahead of it in the

1113
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: potential negotiation. But what do you think is the true

1114
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: motive of why they want one?

1115
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 2: Is he's an idiot and his lawyer is an idiot,

1116
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: So there's one that's that should By the way, there's

1117
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 2: a lot of lawsuits these days where you can just

1118
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 2: attribute it to that, So let's be clear about that.

1119
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 2: That's one possible to the other possibilities. He's not an idiot,

1120
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 2: but he believes through one of these mechanisms he might

1121
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 2: be able to get some extra money that was entitled

1122
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 2: to him. So, for example, one of the things that's

1123
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 2: a big issue for him is that, let's see, the

1124
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 2: suit claims that when Crawford signed to fight EDGGS give

1125
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 2: my pronunciation kava leaos.

1126
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: Yes, kathalle awskis, yeah, just call it means.

1127
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 2: Even included a nine hundred thousand dollars payment if top

1128
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 2: Rank didn't in good faith offer Crawford about with Spence

1129
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 2: by the end of twenty twenty. They're claiming that didn't happen,

1130
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 2: so that he isn't therefore entitled to nine hundred grand

1131
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, we'll have to see exactly if that's true,

1132
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 2: So maybe it's a little bit of money. The other

1133
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 2: thing that kind of leads me to wonder is Crawford

1134
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 2: knows he's not gonna win, he's gonna lose money, But

1135
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 2: if they can get to a point where a he

1136
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 2: can embarrass Bob or even more importantly, get to a

1137
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 2: point of discovery like not settle, right, because if they settle,

1138
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 2: he gets money. Not settle get to a point of

1139
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 2: discovery where he can now share public emails or texts

1140
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 2: and Bob Bobby's blackfighters don't sell. I'm not making that

1141
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 2: up or something, right, But if you get texts or

1142
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 2: emails where Bob is sating a racial shit, that could

1143
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 2: be interesting. That could be interesting.

1144
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: I mean, look, look, you know Bob, Bob can always

1145
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 1: argue correctly because the numbers don't lie in terms of

1146
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 1: pay per view bys that Terrence never became a brand,

1147
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: and I know that they were top rank. Was always

1148
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: upset that he wasn't willing to do as many interviews

1149
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: and try, you know, put it out there. He's got

1150
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: a very quiet personality. You know, his talent speaks for

1151
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 1: itself to a large degree. But I don't think Terrence

1152
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: was always his best advocate for becoming a star. So

1153
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: they can always lean on the number side of it,

1154
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 1: but racially fueled again, it would.

1155
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 2: Be really hard to It's like, dude, you think that

1156
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 2: the issue about why you guys didn't do good business

1157
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 2: together is because Bob hates black people. I don't think

1158
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 2: that's the best explanation, you know. I think Bob hates

1159
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 2: a lot of people, some of them are probably black.

1160
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 2: Bobby hates Terrence too. To be quite honest with you,

1161
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: I don't think he hates like if Terrence made him money,

1162
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 2: I think he'd loved Terrence. I don't really think it's

1163
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 2: got shit all to do with that.

1164
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: Look, there's a there's a reason why Bob and Don

1165
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: King to a lesser degree because he hasn't been, you know,

1166
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: a major promoter in the last decade or so. But uh,

1167
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: there's a reason why Don King and Bob Aarm were

1168
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: on top for so long and are still in it.

1169
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 1: And we've seen so many celebrity names come and try

1170
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: to be boxing promoters Luke and lose a lot of money,

1171
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: or big time investors and lose a lot of money.

1172
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: Bob and Don King they only see green, I mean seriously,

1173
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: and they're they're they're they their goal. I'm not saying

1174
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: their goals to screw everyone over. But why have so

1175
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: many people I have so many fighters, you know, represented

1176
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: by Don King ended up suing him. Their goals to

1177
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 1: make as much money as freaking possible off of anyone

1178
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 1: of any color. They are cut throat, swinging, corporate raiders, Luke.

1179
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: They are just of the of the reptilian level, you know,

1180
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: as Mike Tyson famously one said of Don King. So

1181
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: it is not it's never about, you know, skin cut.

1182
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 1: This is the only the only time skin color comes

1183
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: in for them is whether they think they can sell

1184
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: certain you know, race or background.

1185
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,760
Speaker 2: Me I'm not saying that people in boxing aren't racist,

1186
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 2: Like there definitely are racist people in boxing, but that's

1187
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 2: an exhausting proposition. Like if you hate minorities and you

1188
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 2: like boxing, that's a hard that's a contradiction right there.

1189
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're supposed to do with that.

1190
00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 2: But anyway, all right, we go now to quick hit BC.

1191
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 2: I know I'm in fairness. I think both of us are,

1192
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 2: but certainly perhaps a little bit more you than me.

1193
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 2: But again we're all on board with this one. There

1194
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 2: are reports that Stevenson Shaquer Stevenson is going to have

1195
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 2: a title unification. At least they are working on a

1196
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 2: title unification against Golden Boys, well well sort of. Previously anyway,

1197
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 2: Eddie Renoso's Oscar Valdez and Oscars fresh off of controversy

1198
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 2: from Pedes but part of the Eddie Renoso Canelo team.

1199
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 2: B See how close is this? How good of a

1200
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 2: fight would it be?

1201
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: Well, just to your point, trainers aren't linked with promoters,

1202
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: big name fighters. This is as good as against Luke,

1203
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: bring that shit to me, As Pedro Toronto once said, like, yes,

1204
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: do we need to see this fight right here? Hell yes,

1205
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: I think just today Mike Coppinger has been all over

1206
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: the three ESPN saying that they came to turns on financials.

1207
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: It's looking like April thirtieth in Las Vegas. Luke, this

1208
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: is a big time fight to unify belts at one

1209
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: thirty Because you know, I'm of that of that original

1210
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: core group of people that is now becoming a small village, Luke,

1211
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: and I'm happy to see this that truly believes Shaker

1212
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: Stevenson is on his way to becoming the powfer pound

1213
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: king of this sport.

1214
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 2: Uh.

1215
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: You know, we've we've compared him not not to overall

1216
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: Floyd Mayweather, but to younger pretty boy Floyd Mayweather in

1217
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: terms of his actual ability. No one's pushed him to

1218
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: the level where he's had to show everything yet. But

1219
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: he is something fricking special and he's going in there

1220
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: against unbeaten Oscar Valdis, who, along with rightfully being clouded

1221
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: due to the failed drug test last year. In his

1222
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: second fight, which he fought anyway, and it was controversial.

1223
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: Don't forget he knocked out Miguel Burchell for the knockout

1224
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: of the year to move up and way to win

1225
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: a title in a second way class against like that

1226
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: division's boogieman. Nobody had beaten Burchell. He was taking out everyone,

1227
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: and uh, Valdez is common, Luke. This here's what's great

1228
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: about this, Luke. We need these type of fights. But

1229
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: also even if Valdez is everything he can be, this

1230
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: still may end up looking like Floyd Mayweather against Diego Correllis,

1231
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: you know, or Floyd Mayweather against Arturo Gatti, because Chaquer

1232
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: might be that special, Luke. So we're gonna find out

1233
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: if Shaquer is very good or if he's great.

1234
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 2: They need to do something for you. So I'm gonna

1235
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 2: go and rant here for just a little bit. The

1236
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 2: next piece we have bec you kind of alluded to it.

1237
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 2: I didn't see the report. I only what you told

1238
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 2: me about it, but there was at least some indication

1239
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 2: that Kayla Harrison could be headed back to PFL, which

1240
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 2: we had initially discussed after her last win her last fight,

1241
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 2: that well, where else are you going to go and

1242
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,959
Speaker 2: win million dollar tournaments over people who can't athletically touch

1243
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 2: you at all? And so if she stated PFL, it

1244
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 2: would hardly be the worst situation in the world in

1245
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 2: terms of prize fighting. In terms of legacy building, that's

1246
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 2: where things get a little bit dicey, because where are

1247
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 2: you going to go to get the best opponents to

1248
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 2: make your legacy what it's supposed to be. BC, are

1249
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 2: you in agreement with me that a going back to

1250
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 2: the PFL it certainly would not be the end of

1251
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 2: the world. She would still make a handsome reward for

1252
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 2: herself and at the end of the day, that might

1253
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 2: just be the name of the game. But just knowing

1254
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 2: Kyla the way that we do. She features very briefly

1255
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 2: in our documentary From the Night in Vegas where we're

1256
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 2: at the award show. We talked to her briefly there.

1257
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 2: I can't imagine she loves loves the idea of going

1258
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 2: back to PFL. Also, there is maybe a way to

1259
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 2: suggest that the report is a little premature.

1260
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, so again, I think that report that came out

1261
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: is just you know, negotiations publicly. But it's interesting because

1262
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: could she potentially make the most money with PFL. She

1263
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: might be able to, But we think she's wired in

1264
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: a way that you tease that she wants she wants

1265
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: it now, she wants to find out how great she

1266
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: can be. That it's a little bit more about the

1267
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: glory and the challenge and the sports side of it

1268
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: with her. In granted, she has been paid well, so

1269
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: it's you know, she's won a couple million dollar tournaments,

1270
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,919
Speaker 1: so it's not like, you know, she's on the other

1271
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: side of the hill, But that it might be more

1272
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: about that than the crazy, crazy generational money that she

1273
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Speaker 1: that everyone's chasing, rightfully. So, so in that regard, Luke,

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01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: I think UFC is still the favorite, you know, And

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01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: if it wasn't the UFC, I think it would have

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01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: to be Belatoor. I've heard no rumblings that Belator is

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01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: close in this. I have no idea if Scott Coker

1278
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: and company have talked to her. Obviously I think they should,

1279
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 1: but you know, at least that would offer you a

1280
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: Chris Cyborg fight, which would seem to me to be

1281
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: the perfect sort of appetizer to say, are you ready

1282
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: for the amanded Nunist level? But Luke, because Nuna is

1283
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: just lost. Now there's more questions, which again leads me

1284
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: back to saying, it's still probably the best time ever

1285
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 1: for her to go to the UFC right now and

1286
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: go in there and find out how great she is.

1287
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Speaker 1: So I think she's gonna end up in the UFC

1288
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: Looke at the end of the day, I really do.

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Speaker 2: Why would she sign with PFL over bellatore? Is the

1290
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 2: idea that with PFL she could make more money because

1291
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 2: of the one million dollar tournaments.

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01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: I would have to think that it's a financial decision.

1293
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 1: We don't know what network PFL is going to yet

1294
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 1: for their their their free agent for their next season.

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01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 1: I do wonder if there was I mean, look, you're

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01:01:58,320 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: gonna try to sweeten the deal no matter who you

1297
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: are are. I wonder if there's anything related to whatever

1298
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 1: network it's gonna go on, what type of other opportunities.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying, like, you know, could she get her

1300
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: own sitcom? I just mean I wonder if that could

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01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: be part of the sweetening of the pot if it

1302
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: did come down to PFL versus beltar m hmm.

1303
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 2: Interesting because like what if Luke, what if?

1304
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: What if?

1305
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 2: Uh?

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01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: You know, what if Vox was like, Hey, Luke, I

1307
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 1: know we've had our ups and downs, but you know, bro,

1308
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: if you'll, if you'll leave BC, not only you know,

1309
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 1: is it a stupid amount of money in your dream

1310
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: amount of money to just say fuck you to everybody?

1311
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 1: But you know we'll also give your first class travel

1312
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 1: a massage at every hotel. You know what I mean?

1313
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 2: Like, you know, ABC, I'll eat a bullet on live

1314
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 2: TV before I ever go back to Vox.

1315
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: You know, level, well check your oil for you you know,

1316
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

1317
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 2: My level of my level of hostility for them is extraordinary.

1318
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 2: They fucked with my career for a very long time.

1319
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 2: They they they did their best to try and ruin it.

1320
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 2: Fuck those motherfuckers is mine Okay? I can offer me

1321
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 2: this is they can wheel me in a billion dollars

1322
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 2: and and put me in a blowjob fucking deciding contest

1323
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 2: where I'm the judge. Not gonna happen. Not dude, I

1324
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 2: refuse to even say.

1325
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 1: Just burn the village, sir, you know what I mean?

1326
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,479
Speaker 2: No, fuck those losers pieces of fun.

1327
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 1: I mean, look, this is this is a personal matter,

1328
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 1: not for public access. You're just You're just You're throwing me.

1329
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 2: A lot of caffeine this morning, and you got me

1330
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 2: fucking angry.

1331
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 1: Bringing I mean, am I on Facebook with my high

1332
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 1: school classmates right now? I shouldn't know about your marriage

1333
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: falling apart, you know, like you shouldn't tell me, you

1334
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 1: know on Facebook? You know what I mean?

1335
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 2: Luke, No, I don't, all right? Uh from Beltore News.

1336
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 2: The only thing I found curious about this BC is

1337
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 2: not the fight itself. I like, not the location. I like,

1338
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 2: not even where it's being uh broadcast showtime, which I like.

1339
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 2: It's just in May. I didn't quite get the announcement

1340
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 2: happening in January. Great fight Yaroslav Amasov, who, for folks

1341
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 2: who may not know, is the existing belt or welterweight chipman,

1342
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 2: and a very good one at that. He is going

1343
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 2: to take on Michael Venom Page in London, I believe Friday,

1344
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 2: May thirteenth. Let me double check that right now, BC.

1345
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 2: I love this fight, but why are they announcing it

1346
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 2: five months early.

1347
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love this fight and by the way, it

1348
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: is the fight that should have been. But they like,

1349
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: this is what should have happened. Congratulations Belator, you did that.

1350
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 1: Normally when we see this length, it's like, oh yeah,

1351
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 1: and they will coach the ultimate fighter. So Luke, I

1352
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 1: don't know. You know, there's no ultimate fighter right now

1353
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: in Belatore. But I don't know what type of you know,

1354
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 1: reasoning beyond just let's get it on the books and

1355
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: let's start getting people really excited. And maybe, Luke, did

1356
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 1: you say London is the site?

1357
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 2: Yes, Friday May thirteenth, it'll be the s se Arena,

1358
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 2: Wembley in London.

1359
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 1: Again, we haven't spoke to higher upset you know, vicom CBS.

1360
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm not speaking out of turn here, but maybe that

1361
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 1: means Luke, that's going to be a tent pole card

1362
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 1: for Scott Coker, similar to like Belator MSG right, which

1363
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: was a big deal. Maybe it will be one of those, Luke,

1364
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 1: and you're just trying to start the early drum bashing

1365
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: to get people noticing. I don't you know, but.

1366
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 2: Here's the reason, here's the reason why I'm sketch gold

1367
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 2: that I definitely think they're going to feature a lot

1368
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 2: of their prominent UK talent on that. That seems that

1369
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 2: seems quite right. But remember when when you when Bell

1370
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 2: Tour goes to overseas, I mean, and when any promoter

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01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 2: goes to overseas markets, they're obviously trying to mostly cater

1372
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 2: to that market. But this will air live on Showtime

1373
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 2: the Saint Spike TV where they're gonna air the ship

1374
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 2: late at night. They're gonna air it live, so it's

1375
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 2: gonna air I think domestically around three or four in

1376
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 2: the afternoon East Coast time. Hard to put a tent

1377
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 2: pole event for an American product basically at that time.

1378
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 2: Even though, what if you did this fight.

1379
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: What if you did this and again I'm being creative here,

1380
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 1: I don't have knowledge. What if you took this fight

1381
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 1: and you you pat you matched it up with aj

1382
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 1: McKee versus Pitbull Part two and you aired it on CBS.

1383
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 2: I mean, that'd be huge. But you're still airing at

1384
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 2: Friday on two or three in the afternoon, four in

1385
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 2: the afternoon, five and af Well.

1386
01:05:58,640 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: Maybe that's a Saturday, is it?

1387
01:05:59,800 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 2: Is it?

1388
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 1: Do you know it's Friday?

1389
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 2: Is it Friday? It's a Friday, so it's just a

1390
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:05,919
Speaker 2: little tough, great fight. Love the fight, Just a little

1391
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 2: bit interesting about why they announced it so early. Okay,

1392
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 2: Andre Rolofski is going to take on Jared vandera UFC

1393
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 2: two seventy one. Boy, they keep giving Rolovsky all these

1394
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 2: dudes who who are I don't know about Jared will

1395
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 2: have to see, but typically not up to par. And

1396
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 2: he just fucking schools him with his new style that

1397
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 2: he has. Yeah, we'll see what happens.

1398
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 1: They think they're getting soda Popinski, Luke, but they're getting

1399
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 1: years worth of technique and smarts. I can't believe he

1400
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 1: I can't believe he repaired his like he had one

1401
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 1: of those chins that like you you don't you don't

1402
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 1: last anymore because you're gonna get knocked out ten consecutive

1403
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: times if they left you, if they let you. He

1404
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: appeared to have one of those chins, Luke, and he's

1405
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: turned that that around. I mean, it's we've already been

1406
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 1: down this road of praising him, but it's really incredible

1407
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 1: that he's even in this gate a true gatekeeper situation.

1408
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 2: Dude. I mean, he had a shootout of a fist

1409
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:02,919
Speaker 2: fight I remember watching his shootout of a fist fight.

1410
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 2: I want to say this was live, but I remember

1411
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 2: years and years and years ago against fucking Pedro Hiszo.

1412
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 2: You know, Pedro Hiszo is an old coach now and

1413
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 2: Andre is granted he was younger than him at the time,

1414
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 2: but like you know, he's still out there doing this shit.

1415
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable the amount of career longevity he's had because

1416
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 2: he's reinvented himself. Uh Dakar Close taken on Brandon Jenkins

1417
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 2: on April sixteenth. Jakar Close has been a pretty good fighter,

1418
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 2: but you know, hasn't really quite ascended just yet. So

1419
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 2: we'll have to see what happens there. Uh B c Clig,

1420
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 2: We just got a fight on April twenty third, if

1421
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 2: you care at all, the bigger one though that I

1422
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 2: care about, BC. This one I thought was kind of interesting.

1423
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 2: Caitlyn Chukegian she just won and said after that fight

1424
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 2: that was her last fight in her contract. You're like, oh,

1425
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 2: she was trying to test free agency, not really. Quote,

1426
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 2: this was the last fight on my contract, and usually

1427
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 2: when you have one more, they renegotiate your contract. Chew

1428
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 2: Kegan said at the postfight press conference quote. So when

1429
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 2: they offer fight, I'm like, oh, I'm up a renegotiation

1430
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 2: for a new contract, and they were like, no, we

1431
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 2: want you to fight this one out. That doesn't necessarily

1432
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 2: mean they're going to cut me, but it ain't good news. Hopefully,

1433
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 2: with this performance, I'd like to think that they want

1434
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 2: to keep me. I want to stay BC. She is

1435
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 2: a perennial top five contender in this division. She can't

1436
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 2: be the champion. We recognize that. Also, she is the

1437
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 2: first UFC fighter to ten wins, ten UFC wins with

1438
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 2: no stoppage. But dude, she is a very high level competitor.

1439
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 2: Would it be a mistake for the UFC to let

1440
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 2: her go?

1441
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 1: She's also tied for the most wins with Valentina in

1442
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 1: division history after this one. Would it be a mistake?

1443
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 1: It depends here, Luke, Because Dana White went on to say, oh,

1444
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 1: that's you know, McK maynard handled that the matchmaker. That's

1445
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 1: his contract, that's his deal. But Mick declined to offer

1446
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: a fight until you know, until I think, until they

1447
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 1: wanted to see the result. Meaning, look, if Shakegian lost

1448
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 1: in this one, Luke, she was gonna be out of

1449
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:55,719
Speaker 1: the title picture. You know, and kind of it's gonna

1450
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 1: be hard to make a case for her to turn

1451
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 1: back around and win three four in a row and

1452
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 1: get back into it. They might have just let her

1453
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 1: go now. I think you do have to resign her

1454
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 1: because she's got three straight wins, all within like against

1455
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: like top five opponents. I know that speaks more to

1456
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 1: this division not being loaded, but Luke, I don't think

1457
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 1: they wanted to go out of their way to overpay her.

1458
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: She's not really marketable. She her style is consistent and tough,

1459
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 1: but you know, I don't think it has I think

1460
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:24,719
Speaker 1: it's lacking the oomph to win a title or even

1461
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 1: really be a threat for a title, even in this

1462
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 1: shallow division. So I think they're willing to let her

1463
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: go if they have to. You know, obviously they are.

1464
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 1: You saw the move they made. It shouldn't be right to,

1465
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: you know, democratically, But Luke, Okay, she's won three in

1466
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 1: a row because she's technically, you know, longer and better

1467
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 1: than all of these girls. But she there's no storyline

1468
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 1: for a Valentina rematch. I mean she got she got handled.

1469
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 1: I mean they all get handed. Look, they all get

1470
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 1: fucking handled by Valentina at the end of the day. Okay, yeah,

1471
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. They all do. But but

1472
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 1: there's nothing. You know, there's not a lot there marketing wise.

1473
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 1: That's tough to say. I don't mean to rip on somebody,

1474
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 1: but it's the true.

1475
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 2: I mean, tell me if you think this comparison is accurate.

1476
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:07,679
Speaker 2: She is something akin to the women's division Phil Davis

1477
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 2: right where she is quite good and she is gonna

1478
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 2: beat very good fighters, probably not the best one. In fact,

1479
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 2: we know, not the best one. We've seen. We've seen

1480
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 2: ten rounds, for example, the Phil Davis versus not Moldovsky,

1481
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 2: but the light heavyweight Champo verb no no, the light

1482
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:28,719
Speaker 2: heavyweight Nemkoff videam Nemkoff. We've seen ten rounds versus Nemcov

1483
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 2: philing better than him. We've seen enough evidence between Valentina

1484
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 2: and although all the Phil versus Nemkov is closer, but

1485
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 2: you get the idea. She's not the best person in

1486
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 2: this division. She's fucking good, dude. I'll say this man,

1487
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 2: that was a good win.

1488
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 1: But by the way, that was a good ass win

1489
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: against Maya. She gritted. That was pretty gritty.

1490
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 2: Luke, Yeah, and here's the thing. A lot of times

1491
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 2: what they used to do was if they didn't like

1492
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 2: you, you like, if you're a John Fitch type, they waited

1493
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 2: until you lost one where they were like, oh, okay,

1494
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 2: we're just not gonna we're just gonna release you from

1495
01:10:58,200 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 2: your contract. Here, they waited her to finish one out.

1496
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 2: But she won. Dude, she's winning. Listen. I understand, like

1497
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 2: it may be better for other parts of the promoters

1498
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 2: to get top ranked talent in their organizations. It's good

1499
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 2: to see that move around a little bit, but it's

1500
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 2: bad to see someone this talented, who granted, has not

1501
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 2: made an impact with fans. I mean, it's just fair

1502
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 2: to say, you know, can't keep their roster spot despite

1503
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 2: high achievement.

1504
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 1: I don't really.

1505
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 2: I mean, look, if she was top fifteen, they got whatever.

1506
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 2: That's fine, dude, she's top five. It's not okay by me.

1507
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: I mean, UFC has has so much financial control and

1508
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: leverage where like they don't have to make moves like

1509
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 1: this just because it's the smart move financially. They could

1510
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 1: still keep the competitive, you know bubble, you know, as

1511
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,640
Speaker 1: fresh and pure as possible. Because if she went to

1512
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 1: PFL or belat or. You know, she she could be

1513
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 1: a title favorite right away. You know, she's an interesting

1514
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 1: player in those divisions. But uh, I mean, have you

1515
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 1: seen this before at this level? It's rare when you

1516
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: see this type of I mean, I guess it is

1517
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,759
Speaker 1: a John Fitz similar type situation.

1518
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty close. All right, that's it. Time for you

1519
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 2: to take over, good sir.

1520
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is what we do every Monday. But Luke,

1521
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 1: you know I didn't do a live show Monday. You

1522
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 1: know how that works. But you know I scoured the

1523
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 1: globe for the good and the bad, the ugly, the

1524
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: in between in combat sports and beyond. It's called have

1525
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 1: you seen this shit? Oh now, Luke, it's been a

1526
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 1: week and a half. We got some good shit today. Gaffney,

1527
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 1: our great producer who who pulls the kernels of corn

1528
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 1: out of this shit, told me he he popped a

1529
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 1: few times. Luke, are you ready?

1530
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 2: I've I was born. Ready Ready.

1531
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:37,679
Speaker 1: We'll see it tomorrow night, UFC Fight Night in Vegas, Luke.

1532
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 1: The first finish of twenty twenty two in the octagon

1533
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 1: goes to debutante Vlatchaslev Borchev. Hey, Luke, forget the name.

1534
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 1: Let's call him, Slava Claus. How about this body shot

1535
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,599
Speaker 1: on Dakota Bush Brother, Yeah.

1536
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 2: The body shot was great. And then I don't know

1537
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 2: what the fuck you call this, but that shit ruled.

1538
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Luke, he won us over with the interview

1539
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 1: with the dance move. I know he had a nice

1540
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 1: one on the on the Contender series to get to

1541
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 1: this point. Is he a mister Favor guy as well?

1542
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:08,719
Speaker 2: I'm not sure?

1543
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I think he is, Luke. He looks to

1544
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 1: be interesting. I mean, look, it's one fight, but he

1545
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 1: looks to be an interesting player. But speaking of his dancing, Luke,

1546
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 1: let's advance the slide. Uh? He really? He really won

1547
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 1: Twitter on this night, and it was the first fight

1548
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 1: of the main card. After like four or five decisions,

1549
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 1: he comes out, he finishes, He's got whoa. It was

1550
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 1: like electric boogaloo over here, Luke. That's how you step

1551
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 1: into your moment.

1552
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 2: Bro.

1553
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the next one.

1554
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 2: What these these white guys many can? We all know

1555
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 2: they can dance? You know?

1556
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got more dancing video if wants to hit

1557
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 1: that teasing.

1558
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 2: He actually looks pretty good.

1559
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 1: Look at he had more, he had, he had more moves.

1560
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 1: He had more moves. Seriously, isn't that.

1561
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 2: Looks I bet? I bet that's way harder than he

1562
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 2: makes that. Look you ever tried this?

1563
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 1: No, I don't. I'm you know, I'm not in touch

1564
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 1: with my origin cultures on this level.

1565
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 2: Luke, this is not as good as what I think

1566
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 2: it's called, like the les Ginka dance or whatever it's

1567
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 2: called that uh that Chevchenko does, But it's pretty good.

1568
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 2: I like this one.

1569
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:13,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great. Wow, this guy's great, uh, Luke, the

1570
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 1: main event. Let's not forget that. A lot of people

1571
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:19,679
Speaker 1: passing this picture around Giga Chikazi's face after running into

1572
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 1: Calvin Cater in the hospital. Can we zoom in? Look

1573
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 1: this looks worse than Fador against Bigfoot Silva.

1574
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look at Cater's face too, not that bad.

1575
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 2: You know, it looks like he had a rough practice.

1576
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 2: That's it.

1577
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 1: I mean, good god, Luke.

1578
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 2: And the shirt and the shirt of Giga Chakazi too, Like,

1579
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 2: look at that thing. Just fuck it.

1580
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 1: I mean when I look at pictures like this, I

1581
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,599
Speaker 1: got a lot of nerve cracking jokes ever about anything.

1582
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 1: Anthony Smith, I love you, brother. I mean, look, these

1583
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 1: guys are these guys go to hell and back for

1584
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 1: us to be employed.

1585
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 2: Luke, I mean this, I mean, I'll say this. I

1586
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 2: don't agree with you know when fighters try to intimidate

1587
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 2: media about criticism. But I will say if your media,

1588
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 2: you should look at pictures like this and stare at

1589
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,839
Speaker 2: it a long time and let that inform your judgment

1590
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:03,679
Speaker 2: about losing fighters and what you should say.

1591
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean, even Cater like he kind of he went

1592
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 1: through it as you mentioned. I mean, he he had

1593
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 1: a he had a walk through some shit to win

1594
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:11,759
Speaker 1: the fight in this fashion.

1595
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, although he is definitely this is not the look

1596
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 2: of his face after his last fight. I can tell

1597
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 2: you that that's fine. Sure.

1598
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 1: Also on this card, Luke, Brazilian featherweight Joe Anderson Brito

1599
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 1: got himself fired up by pulling almost a Gus Faratt

1600
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 1: here into the wall.

1601
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:30,599
Speaker 2: Into this Luke, Gus Farott. That guy used to take

1602
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 2: dumps and then send samples of it to labs to

1603
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 2: test what was in it, to make sure that he

1604
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 2: had all of the you know, whatever supposed to be

1605
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 2: in his system was in there. That guy's a fucking maniac.

1606
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 1: What do you think about this Brazilian name Joe Anderson. Luke,

1607
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 1: I think it's probably Uh. I could see a Joo

1608
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 1: Vanderley coming.

1609
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 2: Ah, Jon, I don't know if I like the name

1610
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 2: because I read it and it looks like Joonderson. You know, yeah,

1611
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:56,759
Speaker 2: it's weird.

1612
01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, Uh, Luke, we haven't seen in the

1613
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 1: spirit though, of energy and aggression, since this Dan sert

1614
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 1: Severn look alike decided to take on the punch machine

1615
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:12,799
Speaker 1: head First, let's roll the videotape.

1616
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 2: Oh wow, oh wow, Luke, Yeah, I mean you got

1617
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 2: a walking start fuck face. This is not impressive. Look.

1618
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,520
Speaker 1: Is this guy a good hang or is he a liability?

1619
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 2: No? He sucks. This is this is the kind of

1620
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 2: guy who gets too drunk when you tell him not

1621
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 2: to and it ends up getting tased on TikTok.

1622
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: And then he throws up in a sink at Molca. Yeah,

1623
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 1: we got We've got guys like that on.

1624
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 2: Just a fucking worst Luke.

1625
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if you watch UFC embedded this week,

1626
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 1: but episode one inside Bretto Kimota's old home had a

1627
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 1: lot of talk about the size of Francis and Ganu's

1628
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 1: feet on this massage table. Lukey, you think it's true

1629
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 1: what they say about uh, you know feet size and

1630
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 1: hammer and sickle size.

1631
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 2: Luke, his feet are messed up. Did you notice that.

1632
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 1: I looked him up. They said they're only size twelve

1633
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 1: and a half. Those look like shaq fuol Right there, Luke,

1634
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 1: he will stop a guy.

1635
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:09,600
Speaker 2: But you see how his toes go like this, Ye

1636
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 2: see how they open.

1637
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 1: They go, Well, he's getting a massage, Luke. I mean

1638
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 1: he could be in mid orgasm at the moment for

1639
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 1: all we know.

1640
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 2: No, no, no, his shoes have damaged his feet, that's what

1641
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 2: has happened. But those can't be twelve and a halfs

1642
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 2: because I wear a thirteen or fourteen and I've seen

1643
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 2: him in person and he is fucking enormous.

1644
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 1: So could I rewatch the steep a rematch yesterday? How

1645
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,719
Speaker 1: sneaky was that left high cook kick then in Ghana

1646
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 1: landed and Steepe was just like, oh my god, like

1647
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 1: what are you doing?

1648
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:42,639
Speaker 2: No, dude, Steepe looked like his hair got He blocked

1649
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 2: the kick, but it landed so hard that it redid

1650
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 2: his hairstyle. Oh God, damn.

1651
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 1: Good shit? Right there?

1652
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 2: All right, Luke.

1653
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 1: Top ranked boxing was in Verona, New York. Whether you

1654
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,879
Speaker 1: watched it or not. Light heavyweight champion Joe Smith Junior

1655
01:17:56,360 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 1: defending against late replacement Stephen Geffrard Luke afterward.

1656
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 2: I didn't watch this fight, PC, but everyone who did

1657
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 2: told me Smith did not look that impressive. Is that true?

1658
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I didn't watch it yet, but I've

1659
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 1: heard that same breakdown where he was a little bit

1660
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 1: slow and tactical early. Look, Luke, this was He's a

1661
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 1: getting there against you know, a light replacement. As we

1662
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 1: talked about, he's a puncher, Luke. Joe Smith he's gotten

1663
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 1: you know, he still works full time, like chopping trees down.

1664
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 2: Luke.

1665
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 1: He's like a union worker when he was trying to

1666
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 1: become a boxer. Guy's a hard worker. But he he

1667
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,640
Speaker 1: did throw his name into the Canelo sweep steaks afterwards.

1668
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 1: Does he have a chance, Luke at all?

1669
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, no no no no. Right.

1670
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:40,679
Speaker 1: Also on this card, Luke, check out Abraham Nova working

1671
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 1: out in the locker room with his own mascot. This

1672
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 1: is like the Jake Paul Robot all over again.

1673
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 2: Luke, Dude, this is some burger king commercial shit.

1674
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and look at him coming out. Look at that beard, Luke,

1675
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: he's got like a dyed yellow beard. He's basically a

1676
01:18:57,439 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 1: creative fighter. On UFC four, it's great.

1677
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,639
Speaker 2: I will say. We always talk about how like the

1678
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,520
Speaker 2: pageantry in boxing is so much better than the pageantry

1679
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 2: in UFC, typically MMA, but certainly UFC. But then it's

1680
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,640
Speaker 2: so weird when people put this much effort and then

1681
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:13,760
Speaker 2: you see him walk out and there's five people in

1682
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 2: the arena.

1683
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 1: Oh, come on, Oh that's not fair, Luke.

1684
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 2: Look, look, look there's no one there. Dude.

1685
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 1: It's Verona, New York. Do you know how cold that

1686
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 1: lonely ass area of the state is?

1687
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 2: Luke? Out there, like, keep moving to Verona, New York. Everybody,

1688
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 2: great place.

1689
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 1: It's one of the saddest casinos I've ever been in.

1690
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 2: Luke.

1691
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 1: All right, let's keep it going. You know what does

1692
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 1: have that? That that pache that you're that you're looking for, Luke?

1693
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 1: That at tashe What word am I looking for?

1694
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 2: Panash?

1695
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 1: Panache? Luke is when celebrities put on the boxing gloves

1696
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 1: and show us their form. Let's see what Snoop Dogg

1697
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:50,639
Speaker 1: entered into the overall lexicon here, Luke, your thoughts. We's

1698
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 1: got a nice South Paul one too, right, well, look

1699
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 1: at the uppercut.

1700
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:58,640
Speaker 2: I mean, you know it's whatever. Okay, you know for

1701
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 2: it for a rank am mature who is not an athlete, yeah,

1702
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 2: it's not bad.

1703
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 1: Rate his form from one to stephen A. Smith. Let's

1704
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:06,719
Speaker 1: advance the slide.

1705
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 2: Well, wouldn't it be stephen A. Smith to I think it?

1706
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 1: Well, it depends on what you know, depends on your

1707
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 1: interpretation of this art. Luke and the dunk.

1708
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 2: Excuse say, if you're trying to punch the floor and

1709
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 2: the ceiling at the same time.

1710
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 1: This guy's got nobody's talking about his old school video game.

1711
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 1: There is that gala got Luke.

1712
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 2: Oh, that's funny, just randomly in the hotel room. Is

1713
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 2: it look good? No, that's something else.

1714
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:31,599
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I prefer celebrities who

1715
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 1: really know how to bang. Luke, when that comes to

1716
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 1: hitting the bag. You know what I'm talking about. Speaking

1717
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 1: of banging, check out forty five year old Todd Grisham,

1718
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 1: who celebrated his birthday by putting this video out.

1719
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 2: Luke.

1720
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 1: Wow, dude, he's working that bag right.

1721
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is the old H two O bag, giving

1722
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 2: it some, giving it some some where. Is this, by

1723
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 2: the way, I don't know.

1724
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 1: It looks like a cruise ship I've met. I don't know.

1725
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,600
Speaker 1: He does cover Glory kickboxing, so it could be like

1726
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 1: somewhere beautiful in Europe for all we know, Luke. But uh,

1727
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 1: but that's that's actually.

1728
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:01,600
Speaker 2: You know what, you know what he could put a

1729
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 2: shirt on.

1730
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 1: Though, he like, when you look like that, you know

1731
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:08,680
Speaker 1: you're at forty five. We don't look like that, Luke.

1732
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 2: So what do we know? We don't don't. I'm not

1733
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 2: saying post countless Instagram. Listen, I'm not saying he looks bad.

1734
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 2: That's not what I'm saying. But you know it's not

1735
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 2: when situations were like he has to be shirtless. You

1736
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:21,599
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

1737
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 1: He's shirtless a lot, you know. I mean he's to

1738
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 1: show off the tats. And he would remember he got

1739
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 1: in like absurd shape like a year ago, and we

1740
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 1: were like, I don't know, dude, that I'm gonna have

1741
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 1: to is memo Heredia in your corner? I mean, what's

1742
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 1: going on right now? You know what's happening?

1743
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 2: Boxing fans will get that joke.

1744
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:41,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Uh, Luke, let's keep it going. Speaking

1745
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 1: of celebrity friends doing big things, how about this guy,

1746
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 1: Brendan shab of Thick boy Uh Studios fame bowling a

1747
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 1: strike while keeping his child up in the other hand, Luke,

1748
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 1: is that is that a boss?

1749
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 2: Yeah? That's pretty good. I didn't seen that.

1750
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 1: Nice work, Dad. I like that. It's not easy to do, Luke.

1751
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 2: I mean there was zippy masks on, but you know

1752
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 2: who cares.

1753
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right?

1754
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 2: He texted me. He texted me last night. I actually

1755
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 2: texted her back today.

1756
01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 1: He was a great supporter of our brand and we

1757
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:12,679
Speaker 1: wish him well. Luke on his.

1758
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 2: Own, Yeah, he did that as well. He actually texted

1759
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 2: me because for folks who may not know we we

1760
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 2: should just say it out right. We have a lot

1761
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 2: of the below the belt followers on Instagram. The Instagram's

1762
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 2: going to move him over, and so there's a He

1763
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,639
Speaker 2: put out a video for us that he recorded before

1764
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 2: he left showtime to let everyone know to keep us around.

1765
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:34,560
Speaker 2: A thank you, Brendan. I really appreciate that, and b

1766
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 2: I also appreciate the text last night. He wished us well,

1767
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 2: and so I was very happy to see that.

1768
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:42,640
Speaker 1: I'm still willing and able and want to do a

1769
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:44,919
Speaker 1: Tiger thick whiskey like taste test.

1770
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 2: With him or not on the year we got there.

1771
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 2: I've been thinking about this. You poop pooed my idea,

1772
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:52,640
Speaker 2: and I don't know why there are so many celebrity

1773
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 2: boozes at this point. We could easily do this as

1774
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 2: a recurring segment, just an MMA. You got the rare

1775
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 2: stash that's out from from what you call it from

1776
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:03,640
Speaker 2: Dustin Poarrier. I want to try you got this? I

1777
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 2: still want to try the Terere mounta uh tequila from

1778
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 2: the rock.

1779
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 1: To be fair, it doesn't even have to be alcohol, Luke.

1780
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 1: If they'll send it to us, I'll you know, I'll.

1781
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:14,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. I'll just say nice.

1782
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 1: Shit, all right, Luke. Speaking of our famous friends, also

1783
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 1: MMA junkies, Mike Bone showing a weird flex with this

1784
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 1: pick of how empty his airline flight was, Luke, probably

1785
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 1: due to COVID as he's exiting the Great Nation of Canada.

1786
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 2: Uh.

1787
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm thinking when I see this picture, Luke,

1788
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 1: you know, no options to get a little handsy, right,

1789
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:37,719
Speaker 1: you know, like you're out of luck.

1790
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 2: Bro, Sorry, Mike Bond has hooked up with a girl

1791
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 2: legitimately who is so far out of his league, it

1792
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 2: is impossible to tell the story with a straight face.

1793
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 2: You just can't believe that a Kermit the Frog voice

1794
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:55,639
Speaker 2: zero like this, why.

1795
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 1: Okay, okay? That all right? I had fun clown on them.

1796
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:00,640
Speaker 1: That's aggressive, Luke, all right, that's you know me.

1797
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 2: You know, I like to be mean to him.

1798
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:06,679
Speaker 1: You know what I do want to shout out, Luke

1799
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:08,679
Speaker 1: and I and I think, or I hope. I haven't

1800
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 1: seen the final final rough cut yet of our Great

1801
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 1: Morning Combat doncumentary Part six that the less Than Jake,

1802
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:18,639
Speaker 1: the documentarian says could be ready in like a week. Luke,

1803
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:19,639
Speaker 1: you know we've seen something.

1804
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 2: Can we say something right now? I know I'm cutting

1805
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 2: you off on this, but it bothers me a little bit.

1806
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 2: He is taking way with.

1807
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 1: Bro Art takes takes time. This is all him, by

1808
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 1: the way, It's all him.

1809
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 2: Get that, dude. The awards was was last month.

1810
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 1: I agree that it should go out as soon as possible.

1811
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 1: I agree that, but I just like to look you

1812
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 1: the first time ever, bro Normally you ship on all

1813
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 1: of these like it's the episode one season one of OZ, right,

1814
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:47,719
Speaker 1: and like, but the thing this time you actually started

1815
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 1: a text chain where like yo, Jake like, let me

1816
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 1: get that, let me get that doc. Bro you've done yet,

1817
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 1: let me see it, Luke, you normally cannot.

1818
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 2: Six Father, Episode six. Episode six is so good that

1819
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 2: I only have the first two thirds of it. We

1820
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 2: haven't even seen the last third of it, so all

1821
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 2: they have is the first two thirds. It was so good.

1822
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 2: I showed it to my wife, and my wife thought

1823
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 2: it was amazing, to the point where now she wants

1824
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 2: updates on when this is coming out. Wow, okay, I've

1825
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 2: never I've never showed her any of the other docs.

1826
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 2: I showed her this one because I thought it was

1827
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 2: so good, and she.

1828
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 1: Agreed, Hell, hath no speed up of a due date.

1829
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 1: Then at BBL Looke getting fired up, I like that spirit.

1830
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 2: All right, guess whatever it takes.

1831
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,720
Speaker 1: The point I was gonna make Luke was, I'll say this,

1832
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:32,679
Speaker 1: we were told you and I didn't really realize because

1833
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 1: because we were in the moment. But when we won

1834
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:39,480
Speaker 1: that award spoiler alert, we're an award winning show. The

1835
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 1: the the eruption from the audience behind us, which were

1836
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:45,760
Speaker 1: our brethren in the media. Look to be fair, it

1837
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 1: was it was humbling to see that type of noise

1838
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 1: and again, we're patting ourselves in the back here, but

1839
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 1: like to see them that invested our brethren in this game.

1840
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 1: And Luke, you know firsthand whether we're the whether we're

1841
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 1: right or wrong. It's easy to get caught up in

1842
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:04,600
Speaker 1: some journalist bs in this petty game. I mean, this

1843
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 1: is you know, we're all we're all going for it

1844
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 1: in terms of fame and money and journalism and fun

1845
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:11,639
Speaker 1: and all that. This was like a pure moment, Luke.

1846
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 1: So shout out to Oscar Willis, Mike Bone, Brett, o Kamoto,

1847
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:19,679
Speaker 1: Sean el Shatty, all those brothers were they sold for us, Luke.

1848
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 2: They sold although Brett was really he was quite drunk behind. Yeah.

1849
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:26,200
Speaker 1: I mean Brett may not have realized what we were

1850
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 1: actually doing at that point, but but yeah he was like,

1851
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 1: oh free free bar okay. Which is weird because tell

1852
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 1: me if this, If I'm wrong here, I'll call out Brett.

1853
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 1: Even though he lives in Vegas. He's hard to corral.

1854
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 1: I want to hang with Brett. Also, he's kind of

1855
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 1: hard to corral, Luke.

1856
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 2: See, I don't know, I've never corral I've never had

1857
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 2: to corral Brett. I usually just run into them. The

1858
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 2: places and we chat, but he was behind us at

1859
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 2: the MMA Awards, and I want everyone to know. I

1860
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 2: don't know if he remembers that because my man had

1861
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 2: had a fee at that point.

1862
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I like that. There's a subtle little like, Hey,

1863
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 1: just so everyone knows. I don't chase friendships. That's what

1864
01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 1: you kind of really wanted.

1865
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 2: Like weird. I like a lot, but I don't go

1866
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 2: to Vegas and I'm like, hey, what's everyone in town

1867
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 2: up to? I don't know.

1868
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Luke, you know what time it is.

1869
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 1: It's Augistan basketball time. Yes, Luke, my hero and should

1870
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 1: be yours. Zabeat Magomed Cherapov making Instagram for these basketball tricks.

1871
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 1: Check him out, Luke. Shit, No, dude, perfect, bro, dude perfect.

1872
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 2: Indeed, this is uh, this is actually the one of

1873
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:27,640
Speaker 2: the lead goal scorers for Liverpool. This is mos La.

1874
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:30,680
Speaker 1: Oh oh, you're you're you're telling me that's not my hero, Luke,

1875
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 1: Is that what you're talking about?

1876
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:31,680
Speaker 2: You tell me?

1877
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 1: So first to beat can't beat Jeremy Stevens in a

1878
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 1: five round fight, and now this isn't him.

1879
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 2: Luke, Okay, yeah, I'm pretty sure this is not I'll

1880
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 2: have you.

1881
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 1: Know Luke that Daugistan is a hotbed for basketball. In fact,

1882
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 1: here's footage of one eagle abid Nermaga metof Luke. Check

1883
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:53,440
Speaker 1: out him nailing this half court shot after some filthy

1884
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 1: traveling to set it up.

1885
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 2: Did you see this, Luke, motherfucking Steph Curry and got

1886
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 2: ship on this on fucking.

1887
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Luke, it took like a ten steps set

1888
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 1: up to heave that shit right there.

1889
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 2: It's the euro euro euro euro step. You just keep

1890
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 2: stepping well, Luke.

1891
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 1: If you're wondering where Habib got his skills on the hardwood,

1892
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:18,799
Speaker 1: here's his shirtless dad, abdulmen App, just fucking mauling fools

1893
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 1: on the court.

1894
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 2: Watch this, Luke, Dude, God bless and rest in peace

1895
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 2: to this fucking hero of men. Can I just tell

1896
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 2: you this is how I want my life to look

1897
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 2: in the next twenty years. I want to be visibly

1898
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 2: I want to be visibly way more overweight than everyone

1899
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 2: around me. And I want to beat the shit out

1900
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 2: of all of.

1901
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 1: Them to be shirtless, just because you can't be.

1902
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 2: Like Todd Grisham unnecessarily shirtless, but unlike Todd Grisham, hard

1903
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 2: to look at.

1904
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, Luke, this isn't footage of Charles Oakley from

1905
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 1: the nineties, but it's pretty damn close. Of course, Luke,

1906
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:56,120
Speaker 1: if you're looking for file footage of whether basketball in

1907
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 1: Dagistan is a real thing, yes, here's footage of Zabet

1908
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 1: and Habib as high school teammates in the Caucus Conference finals. Luke,

1909
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 1: it gets a little physical, bro.

1910
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 2: I don't think what you're saying is the truth, but.

1911
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:10,679
Speaker 1: I do like that it gets a little physical out

1912
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 1: there on the dogas.

1913
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:14,639
Speaker 2: I love that they make him wear singlets. Dude, shoot

1914
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 2: the ball.

1915
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:18,719
Speaker 1: Look that's not that's not proper form at all, Luke.

1916
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 2: But uh, the next one he has to take the

1917
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 2: rock to that.

1918
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 1: Oh God, look at that, Luke, shoot a high sea guy.

1919
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 1: Come on, everybody knows that, Luke. The next one you're

1920
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 1: speaking of proper Check out the form on this one.

1921
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:37,559
Speaker 1: Oh holy fuck this, Luke, This is probably I.

1922
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 2: Was there for this. I'm in that. I'm in that

1923
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 2: audience right there.

1924
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:44,599
Speaker 1: Look at back then twenty sixteen McGregor. Everything he throws

1925
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 1: up is going in, Luke, you know that.

1926
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is just before the Eddie Alvarez fight, and

1927
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 2: he was a man on fire. Basically.

1928
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:53,599
Speaker 1: I mean, his form is awful, but it's a lot

1929
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 1: better than like even Mayweather and Pacio, Like they both

1930
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:58,559
Speaker 1: think their ballers, Luke, they're they're they're pretty gross like

1931
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 1: in this in the celebrity games.

1932
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, his his ball and skills are not great,

1933
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 2: but he fought his ass off that week.

1934
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:06,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he did, Luke. All Right, Luke, you know

1935
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 1: how much I love the Pennsylvania gas station sheets?

1936
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:12,560
Speaker 2: Not wa, I love I love their schmuffins and their sagels.

1937
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 1: Well, Luke, let's go to this sheets. I've in fact,

1938
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 1: I've taken sheets with more integrity, Luke, than the cleanliness

1939
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:22,120
Speaker 1: of this HOGI that got dripped in. I'll get in

1940
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:25,600
Speaker 1: grundle sauce for a bit, Luke, What what are we

1941
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 1: doing here?

1942
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 2: Bro? Man? If you guys knew what was in that

1943
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 2: area and I did this, you would fire me.

1944
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 1: You would fire men.

1945
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 2: What love shoplifting? Yeah? Yeah, shoplifting is so fun. It's

1946
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 2: one of the funnest things you can do.

1947
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 1: No, wait, he went outside the underwear. Does that retain

1948
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 1: the integrity of the of the sandwich?

1949
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 2: Luke? By by going on, not, not, my lord, I

1950
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 2: got germs. The size of turtles in mine?

1951
01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 1: All right, Luke I had a I had a old

1952
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:02,719
Speaker 1: moment talking to the Malka staff last week in Jersey.

1953
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 1: They couldn't believe that Luke I was old enough to

1954
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 1: have worked at McDonald's back when they still sold pizza

1955
01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 1: in in nineteen ninety five. Luke so shout out to

1956
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 1: me being an old piece of shit. But Luke I

1957
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:17,480
Speaker 1: wasn't there when they had the uh McDonald's catch up fondue.

1958
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:19,600
Speaker 1: I would have been into this. Can you what do

1959
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:20,439
Speaker 1: you think about this, Luke?

1960
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:24,600
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna hate on that. Yeah, that, I'm not

1961
01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 2: gonna hate on that. I think if you're gonna eat food,

1962
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 2: remember when Trump got in trouble because he fed like

1963
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 2: the Clemson Tigers, like all McDonald's and shit. And then

1964
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:33,920
Speaker 2: you looked at the spread. You were like, listen, I'm

1965
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 2: not saying I would do this at the White House,

1966
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 2: but I ain't turning down this food. Uh. Trump should

1967
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 2: have gone all in. He should have had the catchup

1968
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:42,000
Speaker 2: fondue next to the big Max.

1969
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:44,160
Speaker 1: I would have been elegant. Yeah, that would have been elegant,

1970
01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Be honest, Luke, on this next one,

1971
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:49,560
Speaker 1: what is The most appalling part of this photo.

1972
01:31:49,320 --> 01:32:00,560
Speaker 2: To you, the fact that someone got me in a

1973
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:01,439
Speaker 2: vulnerable moment.

1974
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 1: I mean, look at the ass crack on that guy.

1975
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:08,080
Speaker 1: You could you could put a Susan B. Anthony down there.

1976
01:32:08,080 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 1: You can put Socker Juwea down there, Luke.

1977
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:14,320
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah you could. I mean you could put his

1978
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:16,600
Speaker 2: bag down there. He should just put his bag in

1979
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 2: his ass and then just call it a day. You

1980
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:22,000
Speaker 2: could help the old chimp with the with the vomits.

1981
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 1: You know, what do you think they gave that that

1982
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:28,679
Speaker 1: chimp like, I don't know, poor guy looks poor guy,

1983
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 1: all right.

1984
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:33,160
Speaker 2: They gave him, They gave him proper twelve Yeah.

1985
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 1: Indeed, indeed, Luke, I think this tried to set a

1986
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:38,640
Speaker 1: record for the most times DM to me, but I

1987
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:41,440
Speaker 1: think people are starting to call this the Fremont Street massacre.

1988
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:46,600
Speaker 1: Luke messed with the JACKO get the Jesuites, Luke, your thoughts.

1989
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:50,639
Speaker 2: On this, well, I gotta say, old MJ not a

1990
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:53,720
Speaker 2: not a terrible job at all. Actually, due he's he's

1991
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:56,519
Speaker 2: a smooth criminal, bro, Yeah, he is a smooth criminal.

1992
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:59,120
Speaker 2: I know you've been waiting to say that. He Definitely,

1993
01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 2: it looks to me like has maybe trained before, not

1994
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:05,120
Speaker 2: very high level, and he's not very good, but he

1995
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 2: definitely is not totally unaccustomed.

1996
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:10,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's used to use the gee like that, Luke,

1997
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 1: I mean to use the cravat shirt like that.

1998
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:16,559
Speaker 2: Luke. That's that's smart, that's pretty good. I mean, obviously choke.

1999
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:19,080
Speaker 1: Is that this is am I watching? Askron Lawler.

2000
01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 2: No, you're watching Pat Milita's Carlos Newton. Yeah, yes, that is.

2001
01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:25,680
Speaker 2: That is a bulldog choke. Yes see, I know.

2002
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:27,639
Speaker 1: Look sometimes I know my ship, Luke.

2003
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 2: Although for a real bulldog choke, you want to have

2004
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:31,679
Speaker 2: your hips in front of you so you can lean

2005
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:32,120
Speaker 2: into it.

2006
01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:35,639
Speaker 1: But oh, Luke. The next one and they say we're washed.

2007
01:33:36,240 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 1: Check out this Luke powerwasher one Karen nothing.

2008
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 2: Oh fuck yes, fuck this is me rolling around the

2009
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:50,519
Speaker 2: ground when I haven't wiped properly.

2010
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:53,479
Speaker 1: I'm just like, Luke, what are the odds? This is Florida?

2011
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:54,600
Speaker 1: What are the odds?

2012
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:55,559
Speaker 2: A ten?

2013
01:33:56,800 --> 01:33:59,240
Speaker 1: Yeah? All right, speaking of Florida, Luke, it is a

2014
01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:10,760
Speaker 1: different place, it is, Luke. X Games has hit the Everglades. Look,

2015
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 1: you do you just need to adapt to your surroundings,

2016
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:13,960
Speaker 1: you know, That's what they've done down.

2017
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:16,920
Speaker 2: So I did this once, not with an alligator, but

2018
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:20,160
Speaker 2: with a king snake. Do you what a king snake is? No,

2019
01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 2: king snakes are actually good snakes. You would like them.

2020
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:26,960
Speaker 2: They're giant there. They have black no hold on. They

2021
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 2: have like white or yellow rings I can't remember on

2022
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:31,320
Speaker 2: their body, not many of them, but they're largely black.

2023
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 2: But they kill rattlesnakes and cotton mouths. I think they

2024
01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:36,719
Speaker 2: kill poisonous snakes, so you actually want to keep them around.

2025
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:40,000
Speaker 2: But there can be a little bit alarming because they're

2026
01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 2: huge and they look menacing. There was one in the

2027
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:44,840
Speaker 2: road and it had been run over by a car,

2028
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:47,160
Speaker 2: and I thought it was dead, and so I ran

2029
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:49,240
Speaker 2: over it with my bike and then it snapped at

2030
01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 2: me with its last bit of life left. So I

2031
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 2: felt kind of bad running over it, but I was,

2032
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:54,559
Speaker 2: you know, fourteen, like, what are you gonna do?

2033
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:57,439
Speaker 1: Rattlesnakes and cotton mouth I like that, Luke.

2034
01:34:57,479 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 2: That could be the I had two cotton mouths fallen

2035
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:02,800
Speaker 2: of my fucking canoe once I ever told you that, No.

2036
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:04,559
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that could be the tagline for

2037
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 1: Dila Shaw O'Malley pay per view.

2038
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:11,719
Speaker 2: No dude, I one time was canoeing in in South Georgia,

2039
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 2: North Florida, and what often happened is in certain parts

2040
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 2: of the of the of the area, the cotton mouths

2041
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:24,120
Speaker 2: will rest on tree leaves to catch sun and and

2042
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:28,160
Speaker 2: and get some sun. And I was on the canoe

2043
01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 2: with a guy who was disturbing them, not intentionally, but

2044
01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:32,400
Speaker 2: he was trying to get something. And then two of

2045
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:34,760
Speaker 2: them ships fell in the canoe right in front of me.

2046
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:37,840
Speaker 2: Two poisonous, fucking cotton mouths. So I had to leap

2047
01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:40,160
Speaker 2: out of the canoe into air water I didn't know

2048
01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 2: what was in there, and then slowly guide the canoe

2049
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:45,760
Speaker 2: to the shore, turned the canoe over, and then wait

2050
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:47,439
Speaker 2: for those fuckers to go back into the water. It

2051
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:48,719
Speaker 2: was It was not awesome.

2052
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 1: I caught. I've caught where we have as a family,

2053
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:54,559
Speaker 1: have caught four snakes I think since moving into this house,

2054
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:55,960
Speaker 1: in the finished part of the basement.

2055
01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:57,639
Speaker 2: How'd you catch them?

2056
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:00,559
Speaker 1: Reggie, Well, the Reggie, the Reggie Jackson, that cat. You

2057
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:03,559
Speaker 1: know that my best friend on this earth. Luke, he's appeasing.

2058
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:06,479
Speaker 1: He won't catch him, but he'll scout the ship out

2059
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:08,720
Speaker 1: of them, Luke, He'll he'll know at all times when

2060
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:11,599
Speaker 1: they're in the building and uh, and yeah, Grandma one

2061
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 1: time just came out and stomped on it.

2062
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 2: Grandma's they're impressive.

2063
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah they are. They are old school and that in

2064
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:18,879
Speaker 1: that regard.

2065
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:25,640
Speaker 2: Uh, what I had, I had a question about the

2066
01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:26,400
Speaker 2: cotton mouths.

2067
01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:29,519
Speaker 1: I think it was Uh, yeah, I forgot it. We

2068
01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:31,760
Speaker 1: should probably just move on, all right, Luke. Uh, let's

2069
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:37,920
Speaker 1: go to the playground. Yeah. I could have saw that

2070
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:41,960
Speaker 1: one coming, Luke. Right, yeah, all right, Well, Luke, finally

2071
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:44,960
Speaker 1: someone left around and combined your two favorite things, Luke,

2072
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:51,920
Speaker 1: punching and booty.

2073
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:58,680
Speaker 2: So, so I I know this woman. This is the

2074
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:01,920
Speaker 2: woman on the left, you guys, Yeah, of course, yeah,

2075
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:05,439
Speaker 2: you know. I'm sure. Her name is vv Winkler. She's

2076
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 2: Brazilian and she has maybe the most unreal darrier you've

2077
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:13,679
Speaker 2: ever seen in your life. And that's her trainer, who

2078
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:14,960
Speaker 2: she is often in videos with.

2079
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:18,920
Speaker 1: Did you also work out while watching this clip, Luke?

2080
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:23,360
Speaker 2: Uh? In a manner of speaking.

2081
01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 1: Oh, I was going to reference that weird comment. You're like, no, BC,

2082
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:30,040
Speaker 1: it's a nice snake, you'd like it. I was like,

2083
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 1: did you did you get that from the rock Osa

2084
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 1: Freddity Netflix?

2085
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:33,960
Speaker 2: Doctor? No?

2086
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:38,559
Speaker 1: No, no, no, all right, we've got nowhere else to

2087
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:40,479
Speaker 1: go but a double ko of the nuts, right, let's

2088
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:40,760
Speaker 1: do that.

2089
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:46,840
Speaker 2: Oh oh oh, noll I saw I saw the one

2090
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:48,600
Speaker 2: in the red hit the one in the black. But

2091
01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:50,040
Speaker 2: wait a wait, wait we go back, go back, let

2092
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:50,559
Speaker 2: me see.

2093
01:37:50,360 --> 01:37:53,720
Speaker 1: This turn into fad or mitrio. Luke.

2094
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:57,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, the ref is kind of obscuring it. But yeah,

2095
01:37:57,479 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 2: both guys just said fuck it, let's just kill each

2096
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:01,120
Speaker 2: other in the balls. Yep, yep.

2097
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:04,719
Speaker 1: Well, Luke, here's footage of you crop dusting the fine

2098
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:07,439
Speaker 1: folks in first class on the way to your middle

2099
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:24,920
Speaker 1: seat and coach as we exit this week ship. Look

2100
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 1: you look, did you see the joy on old Schwartzkross

2101
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:28,200
Speaker 1: face right there?

2102
01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 2: Wait a second, wait a scred I don't understand. He

2103
01:38:32,120 --> 01:38:34,000
Speaker 2: just lit a firework. He didn't fart.

2104
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's what it's like, Luke. When you walk by,

2105
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 1: you know, first class, and then you get that you

2106
01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 1: get that grin, you know, because they can't go anywhere.

2107
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:43,960
Speaker 2: That was waiting for some guy to come by and

2108
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 2: just totally let one rip. But no, no, it.

2109
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:48,320
Speaker 1: Was more of a metaphor. It was metaphoric, Luke, in

2110
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:51,280
Speaker 1: that regard. Yeah, youuphick even you know what I'm saying.

2111
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:54,920
Speaker 2: I get it. He didn't have any drunk chicks or

2112
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:57,080
Speaker 2: elder abuse, so that was a solid C plus.

2113
01:38:57,360 --> 01:39:01,320
Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow, all right, Luke, that's uh oh, don't

2114
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:03,479
Speaker 1: we have another segment that I'm qbing here.

2115
01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:06,160
Speaker 2: Let's do it. Time for fan subs.

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Speaker 1: All right, I gotta I gotta find him, Luke, I'm

2117
01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:10,519
Speaker 1: not well prepared for this part of the show. All right.

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Speaker 2: Well, as everyone knows, Morning Combat at gmail dot com

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01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:15,360
Speaker 2: that's the place to go. You send us your fans subs,

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01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:18,120
Speaker 2: We get them in and uh then we roast you

2121
01:39:18,160 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 2: on the show, and then the fans roast us on

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01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:22,960
Speaker 2: Friday on Dead Wrong.

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01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:27,240
Speaker 1: You know, Luke, I'm still I'm still figuring it out.

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01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:29,800
Speaker 2: Hold on a second, Glad. You can't prepared, do you

2125
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:30,360
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying?

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01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 1: You know? All right, here we go. So yeah, Luke,

2127
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:38,240
Speaker 1: every every Wednesday, our people send us pictures of ship

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01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 1: and mikey Moore mol our great CBS producer. Usually, uh

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01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:44,240
Speaker 1: just put them all on without checking them. Luke, It's

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01:39:44,240 --> 01:39:45,560
Speaker 1: called fansuvision.

2131
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:49,519
Speaker 2: He gets so bitter when we say that.

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01:39:52,439 --> 01:39:57,760
Speaker 1: All right, mikey am I looking at the right uh yeah,

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01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:00,200
Speaker 1: I am Luke. All right, wow this we'll just hit

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01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:03,479
Speaker 1: this out afterwards. Look this this awful moment. All right,

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01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 1: here we go. We start off Luke from Frank, Hello,

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01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:09,680
Speaker 1: Luke and BC, all the inebriated producers of MK. My

2137
01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:12,720
Speaker 1: name is Frank and I'm coming to you degenerates from Chicago.

2138
01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:16,040
Speaker 1: I have a meme and a selfie for you. Here's

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01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:18,920
Speaker 1: the selfie, Luke shout out to MK. One point oh

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01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:29,719
Speaker 1: merch right there. Okay, that's old school right there. Yeah, yeah,

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01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:32,320
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, that's that's fair Luke.

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01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:39,920
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, you know, that's that's life. Yeah.

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01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:42,439
Speaker 1: Some people like the cinematography, Luke. You know it is

2144
01:40:42,479 --> 01:40:44,599
Speaker 1: what it is, all right. Todd says, Hey, good morning, gents.

2145
01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:47,880
Speaker 1: We all know that BC is absolutely desperate for a

2146
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:52,599
Speaker 1: masculine doppelganger to boost his midlife status. Obviously, Brian's hat

2147
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:54,920
Speaker 1: isn't enough to get Randy Katuur into the conversation. But

2148
01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:59,040
Speaker 1: can anyone verify where Brian denahe was around nine months

2149
01:40:59,080 --> 01:41:02,639
Speaker 1: before Brian cam b was born. Todd from San Diego

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01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:04,719
Speaker 1: chiming in, Luke, do you see anything else?

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01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:08,920
Speaker 2: No, this seems a little bit much, dude. You have

2152
01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:11,160
Speaker 2: more of the grumpy cat frown.

2153
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 1: You know, dude, Brian Dennyy. No one ever talks about him.

2154
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:18,320
Speaker 1: Real underrated Luke. Remember do you see FX? I love

2155
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:20,080
Speaker 1: that that that ship in the eighties.

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01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:22,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, But this is a stretch.

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01:41:23,080 --> 01:41:24,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a little bit of a stretch. Jack says,

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01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 1: how you doing? I'm from Melbourne, Luke's Indian brother here.

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01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:30,679
Speaker 1: I thought I should point out with this photo that

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01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:33,599
Speaker 1: the call me Crazy fonts with the mk fist logo

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01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:37,759
Speaker 1: looks awfully similar to the blow job emoji. I'm sure

2162
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:40,800
Speaker 1: that's an inside joke between the graphics guy and BC.

2163
01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:42,320
Speaker 1: I hope not that inside.

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01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:45,479
Speaker 2: Keep up the good word emoji, the one on top.

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Speaker 1: I I you know, I I look, I use the

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01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:51,320
Speaker 1: the laughing the tier, you know, the one, the crying

2167
01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:55,679
Speaker 1: oney laughing until I cry one, and sometimes the explosion one.

2168
01:41:55,680 --> 01:41:58,400
Speaker 1: But that's about it, Luke. Maybe the one hundred once

2169
01:41:58,439 --> 01:42:00,360
Speaker 1: in a while. What do you use, Luke? I bet

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01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:02,639
Speaker 1: you do weird stuff, because I'm sure when you text

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01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:04,720
Speaker 1: your Columbian relatives it's all emojis.

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01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:08,880
Speaker 2: Luke, uh no that most of my relatives are in

2173
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:10,040
Speaker 2: laws speak English, so.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not a language barrier. It's like explosion of

2175
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:14,680
Speaker 1: emotion and love in.

2176
01:42:16,040 --> 01:42:19,679
Speaker 2: I usually use like the thumbs up, the fire, the crying, laughing,

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01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:20,639
Speaker 2: that kind of shit.

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01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:22,000
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know do you ever use the

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01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:22,760
Speaker 1: egg plant one?

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01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:26,479
Speaker 2: Is that supposed to be the one for hog?

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01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:28,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? You damn right, Luke?

2182
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:32,280
Speaker 2: All right, don't I don't tweet a whole lot of dogs.

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01:42:32,360 --> 01:42:37,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's uh Zahiti says. Ten minutes after I submitted

2184
01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 1: my previous picture, I watched MK's twenty twenty one Greatest

2185
01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:44,320
Speaker 1: Hits and I was embarrassed disappointed when I saw the

2186
01:42:44,360 --> 01:42:47,680
Speaker 1: sexy pottery scene from Ghosts photoshop with the donks had

2187
01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:50,760
Speaker 1: already been done. I'm still proud of my version, so

2188
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:56,280
Speaker 1: I'm submitting a remix. Yeah. That's disturbing. That's really disturbing.

2189
01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:58,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I haven't been that thin since high school.

2190
01:42:58,880 --> 01:42:59,639
Speaker 2: Look at that ship.

2191
01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:02,960
Speaker 1: Yep, I look way too comfortable in your arms there, Luke,

2192
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:03,519
Speaker 1: that is Yeah.

2193
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:06,680
Speaker 2: I gotta say, your smile is very disturbing.

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01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:10,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't think so. Kevin says. Here's

2195
01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:12,240
Speaker 1: a couple of quick memes. The Anthony Smith is a

2196
01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:15,240
Speaker 1: bit meta of a meme and may fly over Brian's

2197
01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:20,519
Speaker 1: head first of all, says quick hitters MK, when there's

2198
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:23,280
Speaker 1: nothing interesting to talk about. I mean, Luke, quick hitters

2199
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:25,640
Speaker 1: is a small batch of news, right.

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01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:28,760
Speaker 2: We have been leaning on it pretty heavily late.

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01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably fair, all right, all right in the

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01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:32,519
Speaker 1: second one, what you got?

2203
01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:32,560
Speaker 2: What?

2204
01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:41,760
Speaker 1: What do you make fun of me? Yeah? Yeah, that

2205
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 1: now that's now, that's very That's a deep cut right there.

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01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:47,280
Speaker 2: That's funny. You gotta watch the show to do ship

2207
01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:49,400
Speaker 2: like that. That's why you gotta appreciate these man, you know.

2208
01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:52,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, these are some p ones right here, some prime

2209
01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 1: pieces of ship. Jose A. It's Jose Alfonso from Brazil. Luke,

2210
01:43:56,240 --> 01:43:58,439
Speaker 1: he's he's always here. Just want to say thanks for

2211
01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:01,639
Speaker 1: the amazing content and gratulation for YouTube being the best

2212
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:04,679
Speaker 1: MMA podcast around. It's great to see Luke happier than ever.

2213
01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:07,599
Speaker 1: I agree with that, and Brian getting in good shape. Well,

2214
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:09,960
Speaker 1: the holidays took that away from me. You guys are

2215
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 1: my personal heroes. Yes, I have incredibly low standards. This

2216
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:17,160
Speaker 1: meme is based on the totally non existing curse. That's

2217
01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:27,160
Speaker 1: it now, Luke can go take a dump. Luke, what

2218
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:28,080
Speaker 1: is he saying here?

2219
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:35,559
Speaker 2: Nothing coherent? I mean he.

2220
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:38,800
Speaker 1: Swung big Luke, but he may yeah, he may have

2221
01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:39,479
Speaker 1: come up empty.

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01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, I guess we're doing a resume review. So

2223
01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:46,720
Speaker 2: I like Shafcott Rochmanov, so the idea would be our

2224
01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 2: next resume review.

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01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:49,400
Speaker 1: No, I mean I get it. It's not that I

2226
01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:51,920
Speaker 1: don't get it. I just think it's.

2227
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:52,720
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a bad joke.

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01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:55,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. I mean, thanks for the effort, though.

2229
01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:58,439
Speaker 1: Don't mean to roast this guy Luke. You know Josea Fonso,

2230
01:44:58,479 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 1: great guy, you know, never met him, never met him.

2231
01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:05,160
Speaker 1: There you go, all right? Two more Luke. Tyler's got

2232
01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:06,960
Speaker 1: a couple of photos from the four to twelve here?

2233
01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:08,520
Speaker 1: Whatever that is that Georgia.

2234
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:11,519
Speaker 2: Luke four to twelve, I'm not sure. As a fellow

2235
01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:14,640
Speaker 2: football than Oh, that is fucking righteous.

2236
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:17,080
Speaker 1: I'd hate to see Luke turn his back on his

2237
01:45:17,200 --> 01:45:21,080
Speaker 1: team due to names. So I have a solution. Unfortunately, BC,

2238
01:45:21,200 --> 01:45:24,360
Speaker 1: it doesn't have a hog in the name. I present

2239
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:27,799
Speaker 1: to you the Washington Washed. I already sent Dan Snyder

2240
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:30,880
Speaker 1: the picks and my arrest record. I should fit right

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01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:33,519
Speaker 1: in with the Washington football culture. Luke is this guy

2242
01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:35,080
Speaker 1: Tyler onto something here?

2243
01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:38,240
Speaker 2: He is very much onto something. I hate that organization

2244
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:41,519
Speaker 2: and everyone a part of it is garbage. So I

2245
01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 2: like this all right?

2246
01:45:43,400 --> 01:45:45,320
Speaker 1: He has is that those are his two photos?

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01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:45,519
Speaker 2: Right?

2248
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 1: Also Andrew has two foot Oh wow, there's the second one, Luke.

2249
01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:53,479
Speaker 1: That's a that's an interesting idea. That's something right there. Okay, Uh,

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01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:55,880
Speaker 1: let's go to Andrew got some memes for the MK

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01:45:56,120 --> 01:45:59,280
Speaker 1: crew all day, every day, love the show, guys. All right,

2252
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:08,080
Speaker 1: let's see what you got, all right? You know, okay,

2253
01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:11,320
Speaker 1: you know, I mean.

2254
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:15,519
Speaker 2: I love this BC jokes about midget none porn while

2255
01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:21,240
Speaker 2: speaking in a racist accident? What racist accident? Did you

2256
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:22,599
Speaker 2: speak in? BC? When?

2257
01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:25,320
Speaker 1: I think when I did the the stereotypical Asian m

2258
01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:28,160
Speaker 1: M A announcer one with respect, but you know it

2259
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:32,680
Speaker 1: got it got miss miss uh miss strewn, Luke, miss strong.

2260
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:34,559
Speaker 2: Miss strewn? Yeah, did it, miss strewn? Was it an

2261
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:35,880
Speaker 2: accident that it was miss strewn?

2262
01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:39,120
Speaker 1: Yes, it was. It was an uncomfortable situation and an

2263
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:39,960
Speaker 1: unfortunate one.

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01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:48,120
Speaker 2: Thank you. Next, Cali fragilistic xpialido. Is that it?

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01:46:48,240 --> 01:46:49,160
Speaker 1: Oh the last one?

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01:46:49,240 --> 01:46:49,479
Speaker 2: Luke?

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01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:54,559
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, that's pretty good. That's pretty good. Pretty good

2268
01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:57,920
Speaker 1: job right there, Luke. Uh, Luke, I saw you. I

2269
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:00,599
Speaker 1: saw you meming yourself when you said you've now watched

2270
01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:04,040
Speaker 1: in contuo more times than Holloway Vulk two.

2271
01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, in English and Spanish, like fifty times or more

2272
01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:10,719
Speaker 2: in English, fifty times more and more in Spanish. It's crazy.

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01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:13,160
Speaker 1: I mean that shows some real self awareness to make

2274
01:47:13,200 --> 01:47:14,920
Speaker 1: fun of oneself. Luke, I applaud that.

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01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:15,960
Speaker 2: I guess.

2276
01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:19,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's all the shit they submitted, Luke, and

2277
01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:20,559
Speaker 1: so it's all the shit we got.

2278
01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:23,719
Speaker 2: All right, Well, you ended it on the least anti

2279
01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:26,919
Speaker 2: climactic note. Well the most I should say anti climatic

2280
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:30,800
Speaker 2: note imaginable. So that's nice, OKABC, Well we should remind

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01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:34,160
Speaker 2: folks tomorrow High Court. High Court will be out tomorrow.

2282
01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:38,320
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to that. Plus plus Friday, we're gonna

2283
01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:40,479
Speaker 2: get everyone ready. Saturday there will be the fights. I'll

2284
01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:42,720
Speaker 2: have a post fight show. It'll be fun. We have

2285
01:47:42,800 --> 01:47:45,200
Speaker 2: a lot, so keep it locked here in Morning Combat

2286
01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:47,400
Speaker 2: thumbs up on the video, hit subscribe if you're watching

2287
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:49,400
Speaker 2: on YouTube, give us a follow on the socials. Morning

2288
01:47:49,400 --> 01:47:52,760
Speaker 2: Combat's name is consistent everywhere, and then we have slightly

2289
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 2: different names b C and that between Twitter and Instagram.

2290
01:47:55,680 --> 01:47:57,640
Speaker 2: As I mentioned, Morning Coombat at gmail dot com for

2291
01:47:57,800 --> 01:48:01,080
Speaker 2: Friday's Dead wrong. At this point, you can get those

2292
01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:03,360
Speaker 2: in showtime dot com for a thirty day free trial.

2293
01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:05,040
Speaker 2: If you like it, you can keep it. If not,

2294
01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:08,920
Speaker 2: you can bounce. You see all the merch there Morningcombat

2295
01:48:08,960 --> 01:48:13,880
Speaker 2: dot store And yeah, that's it tomorrow on the lookout me,

2296
01:48:14,439 --> 01:48:17,599
Speaker 2: Chuckman Hall BC High Court. It's gonna be fun.

2297
01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:19,000
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of fun.

2298
01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:19,240
Speaker 2: Luke.

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01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:21,720
Speaker 1: Thank you to everybody who sent their stuff into Morningcombat

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01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:23,880
Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. I'm sure Luke reference to that. Hey,

2301
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:27,120
Speaker 1: look are we still up on Best Sports Podcast dot com?

2302
01:48:27,160 --> 01:48:30,040
Speaker 1: I think we're still in the running for the the

2303
01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:33,040
Speaker 1: best combat sports podcast of the year. And I think, look,

2304
01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:35,880
Speaker 1: I checked that they have like a running scoreboard. We're

2305
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:36,519
Speaker 1: in first place.

2306
01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:39,280
Speaker 2: Hey, all right, when's the voting stop?

2307
01:48:39,560 --> 01:48:42,240
Speaker 1: I have no idea, but if our fans can definitely

2308
01:48:42,240 --> 01:48:45,639
Speaker 1: help us win a second major award at Sports Podcast

2309
01:48:45,720 --> 01:48:47,840
Speaker 1: Awards dot Com. You do a quick sign up, you

2310
01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:50,920
Speaker 1: want to put your credit card infotation down or weird

2311
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:53,639
Speaker 1: like that, Luke, but you know, then you just vote.

2312
01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:57,479
Speaker 2: All right, all right, fair enough. So there's that, and

2313
01:48:57,520 --> 01:48:59,600
Speaker 2: I think that's it for today. So I want to

2314
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:01,639
Speaker 2: thank every one for watching. I want to think Malka

2315
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:02,519
Speaker 2: showtime c.

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01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:05,160
Speaker 1: You know what you didn't do. We had some we

2317
01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:07,599
Speaker 1: had some sound we were gonna throw. Maybe we'll save

2318
01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:08,240
Speaker 1: it for Friday.

2319
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:10,400
Speaker 2: You really just just we really need it, need it

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01:49:10,439 --> 01:49:10,680
Speaker 2: right now.

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01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:13,120
Speaker 1: You're just like you're like, funk this, bro.

2322
01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:17,679
Speaker 2: Yeah it's okay. We don't have to play it. Okay,

2323
01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:20,200
Speaker 2: So we'll play some of that on Friday. We'll get

2324
01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:21,640
Speaker 2: you ready for the fights on Friday. It'll be a

2325
01:49:21,680 --> 01:49:23,760
Speaker 2: ton of fun. Watch High Court tomorrow for Brian. I'm

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01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:26,799
Speaker 2: luke until next time, May all of your gains be loyal.