1 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha and welcome to Stephan'd 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: ever told you production of iHeart Radio. So listeners, today 3 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: we are talking about women in cannabis, and because of that, 4 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: we did want to put a disclaimer at the top, 5 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: just you know, content warning. But also there are a 6 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: lot of conversations happening right now around terminology when it 7 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: comes to to cannabis. UM, a lot of people discussing 8 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: whether or not we should call it all of the 9 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: terms that we have for the many many slang terms 10 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: that we have for it and um. If you want 11 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: to hear more about that conversation, then you can check 12 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: out this episode of Savor I did where we had 13 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: local Atlanta then friend of ours Becca Grimm of Dope 14 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: Girl Zene. She came on the show and talked to 15 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: us about all of that kind of thing and also edibles, 16 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: and it was a really great conversation. And then on 17 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: top of that, you can see the past episode I 18 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: did with bridget on this very show about this like 19 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: whole attitude around for twenty that is ignoring incarceration and 20 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: just especially of black men and those aspects of it 21 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: where it's like people are like yeah, for twity but 22 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: you've got to remember all of these other things that 23 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: come with cannabis in this country, and then there's also 24 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: the whole medical aspect. There's a lot to unpack here. 25 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: So it's just that disclaimer at the very top. And also, um, 26 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: if you're an adult that is legally allowed to partake, 27 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: be responsible. We always are big proponents of that, right right. 28 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: And also if you don't want your children to listen 29 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: to this one, yeah, go ahead and shut it off. 30 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: Click click click. Yeah. I mean it's our usual very 31 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: educational take, but you know, the right. So in honor 32 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: of four twenty, which was yesterday, as I was working 33 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: on this yesterday, we thought it would be a fitting 34 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: time for us to look at how attitudes towards the 35 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: weed industry, marijuana industry, cannabis industry, however you want to 36 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: call it, is quickly changing, and how it might have 37 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: an impact on women today and possibly even in the future. So, Anye, yes, 38 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: I think we've mentioned it before, but we have never 39 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: actually told the story of us and our experience in California, 40 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: which was my first time going to California when weed 41 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: has been legal and marijuana has been legal. Obviously, myself 42 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: who was in a government job. I was drug screen 43 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: so I was very very cautious, also up very religious. 44 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: I did not touch any of those things that are 45 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: all kind of foreign to me, and of course, in 46 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: my mind, I don't know about you. Growing up, it 47 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: was definitely instructed to me about how dangerous it could be. Yep, 48 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: as well as the fact, you know we had dare 49 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: Did you have dare? Oh yeah? Yeah, of taking that 50 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: lion home for the weekends. So good. I think of 51 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: us a lion. They just told us don't do drugs kids. 52 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: Essentially we got to we got to trade off the 53 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: lion every weekend. It was awesome. Okay, Okay, Well, in 54 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: honor of that, I thought we might revisit yours and 55 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: my experience of going to illegal dispensary. Yes, and the 56 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: they're after yes, yes, okay, So just on my end 57 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: before we get into this story, which is legendary among 58 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: our friends and among our California coworkers. They had a 59 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: good laugh. Oh they did as they should us fair. 60 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: I was trying to think about this when we were 61 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: working on this episode, and I can't actually remember the 62 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: first time I smoked weed. I have. I think I 63 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: did it in college, but I think I did, like 64 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: the very presidential thing if I. I also was very 65 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: nervous about it, and so I'm pretty sure I really 66 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: didn't inhale like legitimately did not and was like pretending 67 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: that keep pulling. I pulled a w I'm pretty sure 68 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: because I don't I don't recall any specific experience. Um. 69 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: The first time that I remember doing it was in China, 70 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: and I have very funny stories around that that perhaps 71 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: I'll share one day, because it's also was illegal there 72 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: and I ran into a police officer but police, yeah, 73 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: it was. It's quite the tale. I have to say. 74 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: We bonded maker. I was quite the troublemaker in China, 75 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: not intentionally really, But I also have a very funny 76 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: story about like the first time I made brownies hot 77 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: brownies um with a friend of mine. And then that 78 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: said friend is somebody who will randomly text me like 79 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: four twenty, just four twenty in the afternoon and she'll 80 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: text me okay, but this story in l A, this 81 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: is actually what are Samantha and I was our last 82 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: trip before quarantine. What about last tip yip? Yeah? Together, 83 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: we went to l A for this podcast conference and 84 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: we did get to meet up and hang out with 85 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: the l a crew of I Heart Media, and yeah, 86 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: we went to illegal dispensary. That was my first time 87 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: being at illegal dispensary. It was nerve wracking to like 88 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: just having to process how to do this. It was 89 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: a whole thing. And the way you go with show 90 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: your I d get in the weight room and then 91 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: you realize there's another route. I wasn't sure what was happening, 92 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: which ended up having officers, police officers sitting there I 93 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: guess as security, but it wasn't security guys. They were 94 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: actual officers within the dispensary. And I remember being really 95 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: really nervous, but very excited because again it's like I'm 96 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: living out my college days in my forties essentially, like 97 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: thirties and forties, and so that's what it felt like. 98 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: It felt so sneaky and naughty, even though it was legal. Yeah, 99 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: because you did. You had to go through these like 100 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: two rooms, and I was also very nervous because I 101 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: don't really have a lot of experience, and so you know, 102 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: you getn't you. We had to go down these stairs 103 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: into like a basement. They were the police officers, and 104 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 1: then you got ushered towards a bud tender and we 105 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: all went together because we were like and we clearly 106 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: didn't know what we're doing, not at all, and they 107 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: were very kind of bud tenders as they were called, 108 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: were very kind and then like okay, like what's your 109 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: level of tolerance? What are you looking for? Here are things? 110 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: But we couldn't have said it like we don't know 111 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: we could write right, And I will say they were 112 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: very patient and they were also very obviously aware we 113 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: were out from out of state and that we probably 114 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: came from a very staunch, uh conservative state, and they 115 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: weren't wrong. I remember our little attendee who checked our 116 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: ideas and take everything was so sweet about it. I 117 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: was really appreciative of that because she was like, oh, welcome, 118 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: you know, so kind. And then as we're going down 119 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: there ended up being a dude who was like, okay, 120 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, this is what this is. And I'm sitting 121 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: here looking wide ied. I'm pretty sure I stuck out 122 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: like a sore thumb, like people were staring at me like, oh, yeah, 123 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: she's never done this before, and the dude was trying 124 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: to be so kind and telling us, well, this is 125 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: what this is. The type of weed this is, and 126 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: it's so technical, and of course I don't know anything 127 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: about this, and hearing him going through all these descriptions 128 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: and like, okay, okay, well let's do it this way. 129 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: I don't know for sure, and he was just like, Okay, 130 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna do this. How much of this do you want? 131 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: And then also you and I had the complication of like, okay, 132 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: when are we going to do these? Yeah, because we 133 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: were all staying there for a week, which was a 134 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: lovely vacation, of course, and I was so excited once 135 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: again that I was like, why did I do it immediately? 136 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: And You're like, Samantha, yeah, we have to do a panel. 137 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: Stop it. Yeah. Well that was the funny thing about 138 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: our comrades are friends in California, because we were telling 139 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: them about this, and I would say it was half 140 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: and half where one person was like, definitely, do not 141 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: do it before your panel, and the other person kind 142 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: of like I will say, almost a troublemaker, was like, 143 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: oh no, definitely. I think it was excited to say 144 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: what would happen if we did? It would have been 145 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: a disaster listeners because we did not take we took 146 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: gummies and We did not take them before the panel. 147 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: We took them after, immediately after, immediately after, and then 148 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 1: we went to go get what was supposed to be 149 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: a small snack at this sushi roll restaurant, which to 150 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: set the scene, like, imagine already a restaurant that you 151 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 1: probably be a little nervous in because it's small, like 152 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: you have to order before you sit down, and the 153 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: chairs are high, and it's like a curved table where 154 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: you're all facing each other. Imagine that you're highness is 155 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: setting in right when you have to order, you're realizing 156 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: very quickly, Oh no, this could have been a mistake. 157 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 1: So a couple of caveats onto this A is a 158 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: Valentine's Day yea. So Annie had planned our trip from 159 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: day to day to day, two different restaurants, because of 160 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: course for me, if I go on a trip, it's 161 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: all about the food I want the and of course 162 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: we had to have at least one experience with a dispensary. 163 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: We are so excited so Valentine's Day, we hadn't eaten 164 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: that day. We were just going to get a small 165 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: amount of food. This was recommended to us one of 166 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: the best sushi places, best hand rolls all these things. 167 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: We were told by the bud tender that if you 168 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: are a novice, which I said I was, don't take 169 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: more than half of these gummies. And by the way, 170 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: now that if I were to take them, I know 171 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: I wouldn't only take a third like this is this 172 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: is the level that it hit me me forgetting this 173 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: in my anxiety of just getting on panel, because I 174 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: have a lot of anxiety in public speaking and I 175 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: kind of black out essentially when I do these events. Afterwards, 176 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: was to eat a whole gummy not thinking about it, 177 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: and not because I didn't think about it. I gave 178 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: you a whole gummy. And then my partner was there 179 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: and we gave him a whole gummy, which both of us, 180 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: neither one of us really do like eat or ingest 181 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: or do any type of weed on a regular basis, 182 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: like typically at all. It would be like once every 183 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: few months or once a month at most, and that 184 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: would be like stretching it. So we walk into this restaurant, 185 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: which it's so popular, there's a line and the half 186 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: to people who are already outside of that, you have 187 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: to wait till people leave because what the way the 188 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: hand rolls are made, is made on the spot for 189 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: you and comes out in rounds and you can eat 190 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: as many as you want and then when you're done, 191 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: you leave. In the story, so it's like a diner 192 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: for sushi, so very limited seating, just just a at 193 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: the at the bar. Essentially, we walk in high schools 194 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: trying to do math. Yes, because because I didn't know 195 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: what a hand roll was, I thought it was like 196 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 1: the single piece, like the sushi piece, and so we 197 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 1: were like, yeah, let's get I think we got like 198 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: we got way too much at five apiece. Yeah, and 199 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 1: we were about to die on roll three, Yeah, I was, 200 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: I thought, because I was like frantically realizing the mistake 201 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 1: we had made. I thought we were going to have 202 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 1: to like beg the waitress to stop bringing us food. 203 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: And meanwhile Samantha's trying to keep she she'd say like traumphantly, 204 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: like it's the scalop. And then we have one more 205 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: of these, and her partner like drops a four something 206 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: and can roll and you let out a scream. It 207 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 1: wasn't a scream, it was a yelp, and because it 208 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: was such a loud yelp, everybody in the diner stopped 209 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: stared at me, and my only response was that was 210 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: an overreaction, my bad, which everybody at that point knew 211 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: we were high. We were real high. Yeah, it felt 212 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: very obvious, and like towards the end, I just remember 213 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: a level of like barely contained panic. And then again 214 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: we've got this like looming fancy meal reservation and we've 215 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: eaten way too much food, and I remember very clearly, 216 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: like well, we were all trying not to express how 217 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 1: nervous we were about getting down from those highs. I 218 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: just kept saying, you want to walk, you want to back, 219 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: because I wanted to physically walk, and I just could 220 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: not understand what was happening those stools. Who by the way, again, 221 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 1: if you know anything about me, I'm clumsy on a 222 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: normal day. This was a bad combo of the high 223 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 1: stool for a five ft to five ft three four 224 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 1: girl trying to figure out how to get down from 225 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: bar stools, as well as walk a few blocks back 226 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: to a hotel that I can't quite remember how to 227 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: get to. I feel like I remember very clearly, oddly enough, 228 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: when we were checking out, because it was one of 229 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: those places where you also were unsure of how to 230 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: check out and I was the one that paid for 231 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: it because it was a company card. And I remember 232 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: doing that thing where you're like, oh, I'm fitting in 233 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: with flying colors, and now I look back and like, oh, no, 234 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: definitely not. But I was sort of leading the charge 235 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: back to the hotel and I would look behind and 236 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: it would be Samanthatter partner, and it's just like for 237 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: video game players, you'll know what I'm talking about. But 238 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: it's like when a non playable character is sort of 239 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: walking aimlessly into a wall. That's what I felt like. 240 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: I was like, come on, here we go. We we're 241 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: following you in a single final line for no reason. 242 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: I could not stop laughing because we were perfectly spaced out. 243 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: I just could not figure out how you were doing this. 244 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: And also apparently when it comes to like any kind 245 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: of chemicals, altering chemicals, including alcohol, for me, I get 246 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: really dizzy and really off kilter, and the entire times, 247 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: I please don't lean on these people. And I was 248 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: so scared that I was going to lean on a 249 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: passer buyer and trying to concentrate on not leaning. And 250 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: the story is getting very long as we're wrapped up, 251 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: But to say the least we missed our fancy Valentine dinner. 252 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: We did because I could not get off the bed. Yeah. Yeah, 253 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: and then we ended up like much Later that night, 254 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: I was writing fan fiction and I broke my laptop 255 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: because I got too excited about the fan fiction I 256 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: was writing. And to this day, I know what section 257 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: that is and I'll read it and it brings a 258 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: smile to my face. You were very We survived it, 259 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: but we learned a lot of lessons and our tolerance, Dan. 260 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: I learned a lot of lessons about legal weed from 261 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: California and how powerful and potent it actually is. Yes, yes, 262 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: and responsible ingestion. Yeah. I mean, we only took the 263 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: one gummy, but we did learn which apparently is a 264 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: big practice in this and I I realized that now 265 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that makes so much more sense. And 266 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: of course we did the mistake that most beginners do 267 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: when they initially take it, not realizing it takes a 268 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: little while m hm, and thinking that we're okay, we 269 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: didn't take more, thank goodness, but I know a lot 270 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: of beginners will, not realizing you need to wait thirty 271 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: minutes or however long. Yeah, it was perfectly time for 272 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: like right when we were about to sit down in 273 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: that restaurant, we were all like, oh, no, here we go. 274 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: But now that we've given you the very long winded story, apologies, 275 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: we do want to talk about actual history of marijuana 276 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: and empire that it has. So let's get some history 277 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: of weed, cannabis, marijuana, mary Jane, whatever you want to 278 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: call this. The original origins of marijuana or cannabis can 279 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: be dated as early as five hundred BC. It possibly 280 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: from medicinal purposes, with some usage for hemp ropes and such. 281 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: And when it was actually introduced to America, it was 282 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: used for rope, clothing and other textiles in the early 283 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: days of the colonies. Yeah, and in fact it was 284 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: such a great resource um and because it was fast growing, Connecticut, Virginia, 285 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: and Massachusetts required farmers to grow himp in the early 286 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: sixteen hundreds. And though we of course now know the 287 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: psychoactive properties of weed, it wasn't the main usage and 288 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily the intent. Though burned cannabis seeds were found 289 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: for priests and religious leaders, historical graves and religious sites. 290 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: But you know, hard to put meaning on some of 291 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: these past historical events in the early hemp plants didn't 292 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: show high levels of th HC are tetra hydro cannabinal, 293 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: but it was historically used recreationally around eight hundred c 294 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: e around the Middle East and parts of Asia, and 295 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: in the eighteen hundreds, Cannabis was used by doctors and 296 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: pharmacists to help treat stomach illness as well as for 297 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: diseases like cholera, but it was also used to help 298 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: treat pain and women from an early time and even 299 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: used for those who were pregnant. It was recorded that 300 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: during the same time frame in the physicians were using 301 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: cannabis to treat painful periods and mensis like that for 302 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: Queen Victoria. They would use it to not only treat 303 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: the painful cramps, but for heavy bleeding as well. It 304 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: was also a treatment used for difficult pregnancies, whether it 305 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: was placing leaves on different parts of the body to 306 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: prevent convulsions and difficult births, or using it to ease 307 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: vomiting and overwhelming issues due to yeah the severe vomiting 308 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: while pregnant those things that come from that. Of course, 309 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: these tactics are not practiced today since then the attitudes 310 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: toward we'd have changed greatly, so let's look at some 311 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: of the negative history as well as some myths around cannabis. Right. 312 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: It was in the nineteen thirties, which goes hand in 313 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: hand with the Depression era, that marijuana usage has made 314 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: a legal labeling weed as evil and again with an 315 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: overall prejudice to the influx of Mexican immigrants who were 316 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: using cannabis recreationally. And by the way, this was soon 317 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 1: after the Mexican Revolution and the result of prohibition all 318 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: that stuff. The Marijuana Tacks Act of nineteen thirty seven 319 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: was passed, effectively criminalizing all use of himp plants. The 320 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: first person to be arrested was a fifty eight year 321 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: old farmer who was sentenced the day after the law 322 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: passed to four years of quote hard labor. In nineteen seventy, 323 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: President Richard Nixon classified marijuana as a Schedule one drug, 324 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: on the same list with LSD, heroin, and ecstasy, and 325 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: labeled it the infamous gateway drug, meaning it would lead 326 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: to a usage of other drugs. However, in nineteen seventy two, 327 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: a report titled Marijuana a Signal of Misunderstanding that was 328 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: released by the National Commission on marijuana and drug abuse, 329 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: also known as the Shafer Commission, recommended a lesser send 330 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: tests for lower possession amounts, as well as a lesser 331 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: prohibition of the product, only to be ignored by the administration. 332 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: Of course, we now have a better understanding of some 333 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: of the myths of weed, including the misuse of gateway drug, 334 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: but the campaign started way before then, including the first 335 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: anti pot film that was released in the nineteen thirties, 336 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: which included stories of people like Marty who got addicted 337 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: to marijuana and lived a life of crime and desperation, 338 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: which led him to cutting up his mouth and throat 339 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: after opening a pop while high by breaking it against 340 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: the wall and ingesting the pup with glass. So there's 341 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: this like the film that actually shows him bleeding out 342 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: of his mouth because he was so high, and which 343 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: led to a life in and out of jail, one 344 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: of the many cautionary tales and using those uh marijuana 345 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: cigarettes as they like to say. And by the way, 346 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: I want to say, I think I watched something similar 347 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: to that. Of course, it would probably be like the 348 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: after school specials more so than the nineteenth thirties filmed 349 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: of when now we had dare at school. I believe 350 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: I remember something similar to this, now, maybe not cutting 351 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: the throat, but alleging that it was going to kill everyone. Yeah, 352 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: And for any listeners who don't know, because I'm actually 353 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: not really familiar with the history of DARE, but that's 354 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: Drug Abuse Resistance Education in the United States, which was 355 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: this program in my experience, which was aimed towards elementary 356 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: school students and middle school students about like, don't do drugs, right. 357 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: It was in a connection with War on Drugs. Yes, 358 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: And I don't particularly recall watching any films that disturbed me, 359 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: but I do remember, as listeners know, I loved math, 360 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: and um, there was this chart that we had to 361 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: do that I loved. But now I'm like, I wonder 362 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: what messages I was taking in from this, But you 363 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: would it was basically the chart was supposed to show 364 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: that cannabis was a gateway drugs. So you had like 365 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: one person, you had a bunch of people do that, 366 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: and then from there you would take a small sample 367 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 1: size and they would do cocaine and from there they 368 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: would do mess like so you would show that way 369 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: that it was a gateway drug. And by the way, 370 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: sometimes it was I believe at the beginning of last year, 371 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: I saw a group of dare people in front of 372 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: h I want to say a target. Really, I know, 373 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: it's a big nostalgic thing for people of like the nineties, 374 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: not necessarily the program, but just the like merchandise, the 375 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: shirts in the bag. I have a bag that I 376 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: didn't buy. I mean, I got it through school, but 377 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: I still have it. It is nostalgic. Yeah, but okay, 378 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: that wasn't the only myth being spread about cannabis. Some 379 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: others include that we can kill off brain cells, which 380 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: was discredited by government officials themselves. It doesn't also that 381 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,239 Speaker 1: we leads to a life of crime. Of course, if 382 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: it is illegal for you to possess then yes, but 383 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: that is committing a crime. But there's no link between 384 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: violent crime and we'd use just f y I yeah. 385 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: And then there's the again, the movie Read for Madness, 386 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: which is what it was in the nineteen thirties, claims 387 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: that we would lead to insanity and even homicidal behaviors, 388 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: which again has been disproven. M um. And then we 389 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: can also talk about the fact that, yeah, there is 390 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: a conversation about is it addictive, and yes, it actually is. However, 391 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: the connotation is to addiction to weed is severely different 392 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: than an opioid, So just kind of put that out 393 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: there as well as can you overdose, Yes, that you can, 394 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: but again it's not the same level of overdosing on 395 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 1: opioids or even alcohol. There's not too many deaths connected 396 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: primarily with just ingesting weed, So just to put that 397 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: out there, but it is a thing. Yeah, that's a thing. Yeah. 398 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: And also like we're not a medical podcast, so don't 399 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: seek here medical or cannabis advice here. We're just trying 400 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: to present the current history. Yes, one has been research, 401 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: just to bring it out, and also that we know 402 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: that there is a whole big conversation about legalizing weed 403 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 1: in the United States, and just recently New York has 404 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: passed a law to legalize and recreational usage of cannabis, 405 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: but with a lot of restrictions. Um, and there continues 406 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: to be an ongoing debate of legalizing it as it 407 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: is still against federal mandate in federal policies. Yes, and 408 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: I know again there's the other podcasts out there that 409 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: can tackle this far better than we could. But like 410 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: the whole difficulty of if you're in a state where 411 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: it's legal but it's federally still not quite legal than 412 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: having to have like cash, how do you deal with 413 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: your taxes? All those kinds of things. So New York 414 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: makes the fifteenth state to officially legalized cannabis use outside 415 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: of medical reasons. Colorado and Washington were the first states 416 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: to legalize it in twelve, with Alaska, Oregon, California, Nevada, Maine, Vermont, Massachusetts, Michigan, Illinois, 417 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: New Jersey, South Dakota, Arizona, Montana, Virginia, and New Mexico. 418 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: Uh And though not a state yet, the District of 419 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: Colombia followed suits soon after. Right, but many of the 420 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: states still have continued to prosecute to the max on 421 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: marijuana possession. But the ongoing debate throughout the years has 422 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: been a back and forth on how to legally treat 423 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: the production, possession, and usage of marijuana, and yes, the 424 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: whole idea of taxation. What to do about that. Yeah, 425 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: at least thirty three of the states have approved for 426 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: medical usage, and several other states have lessen charges or 427 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: at least decriminalized it altogether. But when we look at 428 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: the incarceration rates, the amount of people who with nonviolent 429 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: marianage related charges is still a massive number and they're 430 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: still incarcerated. So that's a whole big conversation, including in 431 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: states like California, where is now legal. So there's this 432 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: whole precedent on is how do we correct this? And 433 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: according to one report quote, as of November twenty twenty, 434 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: the Marijuana Policy Project listed twenty three states with bills 435 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: to legalize marijuana, fourteen with bills to decriminalize marijuana, in 436 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: twelve with bills to create medical marijuana programs. With growing 437 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: support in the country to legalize, we many are looking 438 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: to see how federal level representatives will work to fight 439 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: for or against legalization. Senator Chuck Schumer and others are 440 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: looking to put forth a bill to legalize marijuana. And yes, 441 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 1: I did get a chuckle out of him yesterday being like, oh, 442 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: it's the American holiday for and I was like, what 443 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: is this correct? Correct reaction? Currently, President Biden has said 444 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: he is in support of the States. Press Secretary Jin 445 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: Saki said the President supports leaving decisions regarding legalization for 446 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: recreational use up to the states. Rescheduling cannabis as a 447 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: schedule to drugs, so researchers can study it's positive and 448 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,959 Speaker 1: negative impacts. And at the federal level, he supports decriminalizing 449 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: marijuana use and automatically expunging any prior criminal records. That's 450 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: what she said during a recent press briefly at the 451 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: White House. So we didn't want to look at some 452 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: of those potential positive or negatives when it comes to women. 453 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: But first we have to pause for a quick break 454 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: for word from our sponsor, and we're back, thank you sponsoring. 455 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: So we did want to talk a little bit about 456 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: benefits for women and possible risks. And as we said 457 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: a little earlier, we are not professionals when it comes 458 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: to cannabis, and we are not recommending these as practices 459 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: and definitely would tell you to talk to a professional 460 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: and do your research. As we have learned and talked 461 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: about earlier, we are not the best and following some 462 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: of these recommendations or realizing what the effects are. So 463 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: all of this is with the caveat that this is 464 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: what we are reading off of other people's research and 465 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: some of the such that has been founded and not 466 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: necessarily proven, because the research is still at the beginning stages, 467 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: and we truly don't understand the whole implication of everything. 468 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: And of course we know there's a historical backlog of 469 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: a lot of things that have happened in the past, 470 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: but because of the political back and forth, we've not 471 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: really gotten a true understanding of what is happening. So again, yes, 472 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: we want to talk about some of these things. We 473 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: are not professionals. Don't take this as if we're recommending 474 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: something to you, you know, absolutely absolutely not. But with 475 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: that being said, we are going to go over some 476 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: some research that's been done. For instance, cannabis has been 477 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: used as a way to deal with chronic pain, and 478 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: in fact, according to reporting, one in ten women in 479 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: Australia diagnosed with endometriosis used read for pain management and 480 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: preferred it to other treatments due to its overall success 481 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: and easing pain. In Hawaii, participants in a pain management 482 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: study reported a sixty four decrease in pain and even 483 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: noted that they slept better as well and felt less anxiety. 484 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: Right and speaking of anxiety, another added benefit could be 485 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: the use of cannabis to treat anxiety and depression. According 486 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: to one study, there were indications that those who use 487 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: cannabis once a week or less may have some effects 488 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: similar to an antidepressant due to the release of serotonin, 489 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: though not necessarily long term. It can also help with anxiety. However, 490 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: it should also be noted that it could also increase 491 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: risk of anxiety if large doses are taken. Yes, I 492 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: have felt that. Yes, as we often say over on 493 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: the podcast Saver bodies are complicated, more researchers needed, So 494 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: just because some things work for some people, it doesn't 495 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: necessarily mean what work for you. Also, again there are 496 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: risks to taking too much. As we're talking about the anxiety, 497 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: um about possible addiction, and again this addiction looks completely 498 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: different from other types of drugs, and that's why we 499 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: can't say as a schedule one level drug necessarily and 500 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: why there's a debate about whether or not it should 501 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: even been there in the first place. A B. There's 502 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: a conversation that you can't overdose and what that looks like, 503 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: and it is not as severe reaction that necessarily as 504 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: it is to opiates. We can also talk about synthetic 505 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: marijuana or synthetic weed, which has been proven is fairly 506 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: dangerous and can have negative reactions as well. And then 507 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: there's this whole conversation about what is put in with 508 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: weed and who you're trusting when you're smoking and or 509 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: taking part of that. So there's all of those other 510 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: caveats as well. So there are risks to it that 511 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: you need to understand and again, listen to your body, 512 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: talk to people that you trust, talk to your doctor. 513 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: If does not option, do all those things absolutely, and 514 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: as we said at the beginning, there have been continued 515 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: benefits for those who have period pains or severe p 516 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: MS when it comes to cannabis. We did wanna showcase 517 00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: some women leaders in the industry as it is coming 518 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: more and more of an industry as it's legalized, and 519 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: it is a fairly new market business and because of that, 520 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: there's a conversation for women to come in on a 521 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: level playing field, allowing women to actually participate and thrive 522 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,719 Speaker 1: within something that is a fairly new industry with its 523 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: spooming business. Organizations like Women Grow and Women Empowered in 524 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: Cannabis help organize women to make their place in these 525 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: new weed businesses, teaching other women, empowering them and helping 526 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: them to connect in the industry. UM, So we did 527 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: want to mention some women making an impact, right, so 528 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: we want to start with Serrita Williams, who is a 529 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: co founder and chief marketing officer of Extra Haze, which 530 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: is a media company that offers women of color space 531 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: to learn about opportunities and lifestyles of the cannabis industry. 532 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: She created the company with two other women to give 533 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: more opportunities and networking and a very fast growing market. 534 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: And she stated, quote there was and still is a 535 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: real lack of inclusion when it comes to highlighting black 536 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: women and other minority women working in front of and 537 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,479 Speaker 1: behind the scenes in cannabis. She wanted to create an 538 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: opportunity for women of college to learn more and to 539 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: build their own generational wealth through an industry that is 540 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: growing in leaves and bounds, but it's still leaving many 541 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: out of the opportunities. And we need to have this 542 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: whole conversation of who was targeted when they are taking 543 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: down businesses, even though it's supposed to be legal. As 544 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: we said, there's a lot of contingencies on well how 545 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: you can run a business. And when you look at 546 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: some of the businesses that have been shut down or 547 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: some some of them that have been overly police oftentimes 548 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: you see it as a business that is owned by 549 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: a person of color. Yes, we also wanted to talk 550 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: about Mary Pryor, who was diagnosed with Crohn's disease and 551 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: had entered many trips to the hospital for pain and 552 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: suffering due to her illness and was able to change 553 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: her life through the use of medical marijuana. And it 554 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: was probably through this she started her journey within the 555 00:32:55,000 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: marijuana industry. Prior moved to California and co founded Kenna Exclusive, 556 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: which quote Foster's inclusion in the cannabis industry through marketing, visuals, consultancy, advocacy, education, 557 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: and wellness guidance. She fights to make sure that um 558 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: she can give quote consumers tangible ways to contribute toward 559 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: racial equity and the cannabis industry and the industry is yeah, 560 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: fairly new. It's no surprise to see that the standard 561 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: is still white sess men as the lead, while still 562 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: other people of color who are coming into the industry. 563 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: And I was thinking about this earlier, abouts of the 564 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: problems when it comes to four twenty for instance, And yeah, 565 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: when I think about people who recreationally use cannabis, I 566 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: do think of Seth Rogan, like white, white, straight white 567 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: new right. Prior is also part of Equity First initiative, 568 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: which quote harnesses the political power of cannabis organizers who 569 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: work at the intersection of the cannabis industry, racial equity 570 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: and reparative justice, which is so so important and we 571 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: cannot forget this when we're talking about all So we 572 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: do have some more women we wanted to showcase. But 573 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: first we have one more brick for works from our 574 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: sponsors and we're back, Thank you sponsor. And uh, next, 575 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: we wanted to talk about Bridget Hennessy, who is the 576 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: VP of Government Relations at Wheat Maps, which is a 577 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: tech company in the wheat industry. Hennessey is an expert 578 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: in marijuana regulation and is now an advocate that quote 579 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: works to ensure the minorities have a seat at the 580 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 1: table for a new cannabis economy and seek reparations for 581 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: those unlawfully imprisoned for drug offenses. Um, and if you 582 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: can't tell, we're very excited. We want to highlight the 583 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: women who are actually doing the work. Unfortunately that's having 584 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: to do the work that should have been undone a 585 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: while ago. Let's just be honest. So we think it's 586 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: really important that we talk about the women who are 587 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: making these changes. Not just people who are thriving in 588 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: these bus this is which we are so happy for, 589 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: but what we would need to do to make this 590 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: right for if it's going to be something that the 591 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,919 Speaker 1: government was like, oh, yeah, we're gonna welcome this because 592 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: we can make a lot of money, then we also 593 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 1: need to talk about the long overhaul of changing the 594 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: system altogether. But she has a long list of experiences 595 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: when it comes to policy change and restructuring. And for her, 596 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: she said, we're working in one of the biggest tech 597 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: companies in the wheed industry has allowed her to work 598 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 1: on a whole new level when it comes to understanding 599 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: and advocating for those who have been prosecuted and persecuted. Yes, 600 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 1: and then finally we wanted to talk about Wanda James, 601 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: who is the founder and CEO of Simply Pure, a 602 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: cannabis dispensary located in Denver, Colorado. She was the first 603 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: black owner of a legal dispensary. She not only is 604 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: an advocate who works to fight for equity within the business, 605 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: but as a leader within the industry. She is a 606 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: former lieutenant of the United States Navy. She also was 607 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: on the National Finance Committee under President Obama. Not only 608 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: is she a small business owner, but she is a 609 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: managing partner with the Cannabis Global Initiative, which works to 610 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: assist political and strategic positioning to decriminalize and regulate within 611 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: the cannabis industry. Right and uh, as we are, like 612 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: said before, it's really important that we look at the 613 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: overall system and how it has been an oppression when 614 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: it comes to who they have incarcerated and who's still 615 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 1: incarcerated for these non violent offenses. And according to the 616 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: a c l U from two thousand two, ten black 617 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: and white campus users between ages eighteen and we're about 618 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: the same rate, but within this time period, black users 619 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 1: were on average three point seven three times more likely 620 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: to be arrested for these charges and still arrested, as 621 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: in fact one that James, her brother had been arrested 622 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: for marijuana related charges and was imprisoned for ten years. 623 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: That is such an absurd amount of time and being 624 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 1: in prison in general at all. And the fact of 625 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: the matter is people are profiting off of it. And 626 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: again when we look at the lead who's taking the money, 627 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: who's getting that money, it typically is made up of men, 628 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: white men, and so we want to talk about why 629 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: this is happening. And as in fact, yesterday, which was 630 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,919 Speaker 1: for twenty, Ben and Jerry put out there. I don't 631 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: know if you saw their sign, they had a sign 632 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: in front of the capital talking about the fact that 633 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: we need to overhaul the system, and been has been 634 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: an advocate about we can't celebrate for twenty without acknowledging 635 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: the reparations that need to be made at this time. 636 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: And I think it's really important that we have this 637 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: bigger conversation as we look at who was working to 638 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 1: fight because a majority of the people who are advocating 639 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: are women that I have seen that they are the forefront, 640 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,800 Speaker 1: ready to fight for their sons, their brothers, their husbands, 641 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: whomever it may be, the men in their lives, the 642 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: men in their communities. And it is a constant, constant 643 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: battle and it has been four years. Because just like 644 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: many of the ridiculous are just non violent charges that 645 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: we've talked about, this is not restoration. Nothing about this 646 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: is restoration. This is all punitive and that in itself 647 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:13,879 Speaker 1: is a crime personal opinion, I know, No, Yeah, that's 648 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 1: essentially we talked about that in our our four twenty 649 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: episode that Bridget and I did, and I think that's 650 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: so so important because it does get kind of this 651 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: like almost kitchy funny like for twenty huh. But you 652 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: have to keep in mind if you're partaking in that 653 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: what that means, you know, and what it has meant 654 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: in all drug related arrests were for marijuana, which I 655 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: don't know. It is odd to me that it's one 656 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: of those things where it's like, obviously, be responsible and 657 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,879 Speaker 1: no no pressure at all. But I feel like it's 658 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: sort of a rite of passage or a lot of 659 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 1: people just sort of try it and maybe that's it. 660 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: Maybe it's still one time, but all Chekola's number and 661 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: I find it really upsetted when you look at the 662 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: origins of what it was used for and why it 663 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: was grown, as well as the fact that it was 664 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 1: part of the U. S economy at the beginning of 665 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: the colonies and how they survived. And we talked about 666 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: again the profiteering, and there's back and forth arguments about 667 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 1: losing money, whether they lost money because it's not as 668 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: well regulated or whatever whatnot. There's this whole back and 669 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: forth or how who's regulating it and how it's being 670 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,760 Speaker 1: bought because there's a lot there's a couple of states 671 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: where you're allowed to have it and use it, but 672 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: you're not allowed to sell it or buy it. So 673 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: it's kind of like, how does that work? As well 674 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 1: as for many places that in Colorado, they saw a 675 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 1: boom in their economy because of the level of businesses 676 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: growing and the level of purchasing, so it was actually 677 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 1: a great thing for them. But there's no real narrative 678 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: to it's one or the other yea, which is kind 679 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: of surprising to me. I would have thought it would. 680 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,879 Speaker 1: But you have examples of both. And again it could 681 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 1: absolutely be about who is advocating for it, who's doing 682 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: it in a way they're being supported by their government, 683 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: and who's being held back. Again, very political, It is 684 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: very political, uh, and it has been. With all of 685 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 1: that being said, listeners, we would as always love to 686 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: hear from you. Um, if you're from a state where 687 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: it's legal, tell us what it's like. Also other countries, 688 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 1: like please tell us what it is in where you are. 689 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: And um, if you have any people you feel like 690 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,800 Speaker 1: we should have spotlighted and we didn't send those to 691 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: us as well. You can email us or email is 692 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: Stephanieia mom Stuff at i heeart media dot com. You 693 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,800 Speaker 1: can find us on Twitter at mom Stuff podcast or 694 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 1: on Instagram and Stuff. We Never told you. Thanks as 695 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: always to our super producer, Christina Champion. We're so sorry 696 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: about this episode. Thanks to you for listening, Steph, I 697 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,800 Speaker 1: Never told the protection. I Heart Radio for more podcast 698 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: When I Heart Radio? Is it that I heardio? App, 699 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 1: Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows