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Speaker 1: It's a National Football League tradition, football on Thanksgiving Day,

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Speaker 1: but this year it's a little different. It's the Kansas

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Speaker 1: game on Thanksgiving. But there's a lot of layers to

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Speaker 1: this game between the Chiefs and the Cowboys. This addition

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Speaker 1: him not let in this game until no, they gotta

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Speaker 1: locked off field goal and over time. Hi everyone, I'm

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Speaker 1: Mitchelt's voice of the Kansas City Chiefs. Along with senior

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Speaker 1: team reporter Matt McMullen. We're going to talk about the

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Speaker 1: layers in this short week Thanksgiving game between the Kansas

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Speaker 1: City Chiefs and the Dallas Cowboys. But the Chiefs will

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Speaker 1: enter it as the Cowboys will in similar fashion walk

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Speaker 1: off field goals with drama at the end. But the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs get to six and five beating the Colts in overtime.

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys now two straight wins off their buy to

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Speaker 1: go five to five, one beating their hated rivals in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, both teams feeling good right now. Man today would

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Speaker 2: look a lot different if the Chiefs hadn't figured it

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Speaker 2: out in the fourth quarter like they did. Exhilarating finish

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Speaker 2: for the Chiefs. That felt like the Chiefs, right. I

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Speaker 2: To find a way when things were not going well,

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Speaker 2: Colts two hundred and thirty six to eighteen in the

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter. It's not like we were playing a bad

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Speaker 2: Colts team. That Colts team is maybe the best in

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Speaker 2: the NFL right now. At least they were coming into

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Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, and for the offense to make

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Speaker 2: play after play after play when it mattered most pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully months from now we're talking about that game and

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Speaker 2: that quarter and saying that's when everything turned around for

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Speaker 1: And if there was one play that turned it around,

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Speaker 1: it would be Drew Tranquill's first down stop for a

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Speaker 1: loss after Kareem Hunt fumbled the football at the six.

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Speaker 1: But Kareem Hunt was incredible in that game. But here

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Speaker 1: we are now, it's the Cowboys and the Chiefs on Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs have a incredibly quick and difficult turnaround. I

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Speaker 1: think that it's one of the most difficult things in

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Speaker 1: Baseball playing maybe ten games in a row or seventeen

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Speaker 1: games without a day off. To ask a team to

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Speaker 1: similar to what the Chiefs had last year with three

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Speaker 1: games in eleven days. This is not easy, particularly after

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Speaker 1: a tough, physical overtime game with some injuries. But it's

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Speaker 1: that's what Coachree would say to attack.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not easy. Think about like a normal week.

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Speaker 2: You have three days of practice, you have multiple days

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Speaker 2: keep saying this, We're going to have to face a

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Speaker 2: short week either way. I'd much rather do it after

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Speaker 1: And happy Thanksgiving by the way to all of you.

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Speaker 1: It's different for us. This is a Monday and a

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Speaker 1: of Layers. We're calling it Layers to this game.

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Speaker 2: You know what's funny about this? You called your shot

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Speaker 2: last week. I don't know if you realize it.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember. I don't remember what happened like two

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I so shout out to Ben Bailey, one

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Speaker 2: But so last week I had seven around the world's

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Speaker 2: do you know? So my question for you, my friend,

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, okay, here we go, Bran Cook boocket.

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Speaker 1: Ken of relive the Frankfurt moment. Yes, maybe a strip

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Speaker 2: Hi stepping into the end zone. So six for you today.

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Speaker 2: We have a listener in Wichita been a fan since

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Speaker 2: because think of us as Chiefs fans, right, like, over

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but to me, to me, Patrick Mahomes like expunged all.

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Speaker 2: Well he did in twenty eight I just don't live

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Speaker 1: People are going hunters. Isn't there PTSD about it?

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Speaker 1: No, Patrick Mahomes just like got rid of all that.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of over that. I thanks Patrick.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's why Patrick is the best. I mean a

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Speaker 2: talked about it before the Commander's game and facing Marcus Mariota.

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Speaker 2: is all about like slaying the demons of the past.

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Speaker 2: because our social team does like the the throwback Thursdays

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Speaker 1: Thirty one thirteen, Thank your parents.

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Speaker 2: And I was thinking for a while after sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Curtis Paynter. Anyway, shout out to you, Henrique Benji is

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Speaker 2: I knew you were going to say that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know you were your favorite town in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: Go Spiders.

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Speaker 1: Yep, niece lives there.

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Speaker 2: Sean Barber, shout out. Joel is in Kainai, Alaska. Is

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Speaker 1: I think it's in it's home of the great baseball team.

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Speaker 2: Have the Top of the World Classic.

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Speaker 2: That's cool. I need to get back to Alaska. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Top of the World Classic was pretty cool, though.

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Speaker 1: I wish UAF would have it back. The University of

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Speaker 2: We're calling you out right now. Anyway, Joel's been a

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Speaker 1: So if he's a fans in seventy one, he had

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Speaker 2: Imagine what Joel had to deal with. So, if you've

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but hey, Joel stuck with us and it's paying

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Speaker 1: Which you went undefeated in your first year. It's called

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Speaker 1: I can't believe they didn't put you in a major

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Speaker 2: No, No, they did the state and the Memberitarian Ball.

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Speaker 1: Was it Timmy Chang of Hawaii? He went twelve and

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Speaker 2: Anyway, So Louise has been a fan since nineteen ninety three.

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Speaker 2: His dad came from an Oakland Raiders family, but he

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Speaker 2: escaped that thankfully. He bought Louise some cool chief skier

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Speaker 2: which I'm fully on board.

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Speaker 1: I would love to U tip against New Mexico State. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: go to the Sun Bowl or are we going to

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Speaker 1: go to Aggie Memorial Stadium or do both?

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Speaker 2: Good question, let's just do both. Why not?

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Speaker 1: Let's do both and you stay there all year? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'd love to Well that's all I got for you

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Speaker 2: here today we're off the rails already. Well, we were

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Speaker 1: Yesterday, had no sleep and there's all these days are

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Speaker 1: you ever gone? I did my minute with Mitch this

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Speaker 2: But some of my best friends that I met at

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Speaker 2: We can do that this year. How about that? I

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Speaker 1: Glorious day, And you got to understand how good those

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Speaker 1: In two, the rivalry, there's this rival that dates back

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just cool because it's not one of those

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Speaker 2: But let's go beat the Cowboys on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: I'll take it further. It really changed the trajectory of

435
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Speaker 1: pro football, Yeah, for sure. Because they're trying to put

436
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,479
Speaker 1: Lamar to business. They don't want him involved in pro football.

437
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:51,000
Speaker 1: Mainly George hallis sorry, Bears fans, this some very flattering.

438
00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,600
Speaker 1: George was trying to nuke Lamar to the deal. But

439
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,160
Speaker 1: once Lamar got the AFL going, all of a sudden,

440
00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,879
Speaker 1: it became this exciting league in two point conversions and

441
00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,720
Speaker 1: there was coloring into a black and white game, and

442
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,640
Speaker 1: he brought in revenue sharing, and he brought in playoff structure,

443
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Speaker 1: and he brought to all the time zones. He brought

444
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 1: the Broncos to the Mountain time zone and there was

445
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Speaker 1: no Mountain time Zone team. It jumped from Chicago to

446
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 1: LA And so now that we think of it, it's

447
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,760
Speaker 1: really due to Lamar. If they would have wiped him out,

448
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,720
Speaker 1: who knows what would have happened. So yeah, it's a

449
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,440
Speaker 1: really good point on your part. There's another layer to

450
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,200
Speaker 1: this game too, a couple more. Maybe listen forgetting one.

451
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Speaker 1: The Anie Reid versus the Cowboys layer is kind of real.

452
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Speaker 1: All right. So for fourteen years, Ady Reid was the

453
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Speaker 1: head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles. The Eagles don't like

454
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, no, and the Cowboys don't like the Eagles.

455
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 2: No, they don't.

456
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Speaker 1: Coach. He's two and one against the Cowboys here. He

457
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Speaker 1: beat them in twenty thirteen. I remember they were not

458
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Speaker 1: going to lose that game. We lost in seventeen, kind

459
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Speaker 1: of a down to the wire game kind of thing.

460
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Speaker 1: Then we beat them here in twenty one, and uh,

461
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 1: the coach is nineteen and thirteen against the Cowboys, including

462
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Speaker 1: a playoff loss I think in the old nine wild Card.

463
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Speaker 1: But if you coach would not admit this, but if

464
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 1: you mentioned Dallas to him, you see kind of the

465
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Speaker 1: eyebrows let go crazy. So that's that's a layer to

466
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Speaker 1: this game. Sorry, it's a rivalry.

467
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you and I were talking about it earlier. It's

468
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Speaker 2: like if we lived somewhere else and the Broncos are

469
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 2: coming to town, are the Raiders, and it's like, yeah,

470
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Speaker 2: this game means a little bit more to me. Coach

471
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 2: has been here a long time now, but I mean,

472
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Speaker 2: I'm sure he still has all that fire for those

473
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Speaker 2: old NFC East opponents still in him. And yeah, hopefully

474
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Speaker 2: he has it this weekend or Thursday. I keep saying

475
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Speaker 2: this weekend, Yeah, this Thursday. Did I leave the layer out?

476
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

477
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Speaker 2: You sure did.

478
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, Oh my gosh, it's the biggest part of

479
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 1: this game. What am I doing? This is sleep deprivation.

480
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 1: This is the biggest part of this game. Of all

481
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Speaker 1: the layers. This goes to the top of the list.

482
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Speaker 1: Why was I blanking out? Because I knew I was

483
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Speaker 1: missing something. This is the biggest part of this game

484
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Speaker 1: in my opinion. The twenty twenty five version. Patrick Mahomes

485
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 1: grew up in Tyler, Texas, one hundred and seventeen miles

486
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Speaker 1: from AT and T Stadium. Wow, okay, we grew up

487
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Speaker 1: in Tyler, Texas. The Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex is like this. Whoo,

488
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 1: It's like this own planet and everything's magnetic pull to

489
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Speaker 1: the Metroplex. And so Patrick was a phenomenal athlete growing up.

490
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Speaker 1: We all know that, right still is obviously a little bit,

491
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 1: but in everything you know, he was not just football.

492
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 1: He was a great baseball player. Drafted, he was a

493
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 1: great basketball player, could have been a Division One player. Well,

494
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Speaker 1: when I went to Tyler, Texas to present him for

495
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 1: this night with Patrick and Brittany, I met a lot

496
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Speaker 1: of his friends, and I saw a guy with a

497
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,959
Speaker 1: camp A T shirt. I think we went through this

498
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 1: his twelve year old Little League World Series team from Tyler, Texas.

499
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Speaker 1: These are all guys that are Patrick friends. Most of

500
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 1: them still are of the state they come to games.

501
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: There is inner circle, this horizontal accountability, proverbs, iron sharpening,

502
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: iron group. This is a big game for those guys

503
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 1: because they all stayed loyal to each other. They didn't

504
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: go to Dallas and play for the Dallas Planet, you know,

505
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,959
Speaker 1: the gold Stars or whatever. They said. Now we're Tyler,

506
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: and Patrick said that night he goes we went and

507
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: beat those teams. Anyway, I just took my guys. We

508
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: went from Tyler one hundred and seventeen miles and went

509
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: and played all those Dallas teams and beat them. For

510
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. I can't believe overlooked it. Patrick Mahomes to

511
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,959
Speaker 1: play this game on Thanksgiving against the Cowboys is a

512
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: gigantic deal for Patrick Mahomes, all the layers to this rivalry,

513
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 1: this version. I don't think our guys are going to

514
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Speaker 1: let Patrick lose this game.

515
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Speaker 2: I think it's awesome. So something about Patrick that makes

516
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 2: him so special is his loyalty and how much he

517
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 2: cares for those that have been with him since the

518
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Speaker 2: very beginning. Absolutely, like you were saying, it'd be very

519
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 2: easy for him, who is a superstar, to outgrow all

520
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 2: those people, and it's quite the opposite. He doesn't forget

521
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 2: where he came from. He doesn't forget who his friends were,

522
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,479
Speaker 2: and it's the same kind of thing now where he

523
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 2: cares so much about all of his teammates here and

524
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 2: even when his teammates go elsewhere, he still cares about

525
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 2: those players. You know, it's well documented, but whenever someone

526
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 2: has like a milestone touchdown or something and everyone's celebrating,

527
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: he's the one that goes and hunts down the football.

528
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 2: It's little stuff like that he cares. And that's because

529
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Speaker 2: of how he was raised, right, And it's pretty cool

530
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Speaker 2: that he gets to go back to Dallas now for

531
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Speaker 2: the very first time and play at at and T

532
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 2: Stadium on Thanksgiving and play against the Cowboys and he

533
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 2: has a chance to go in there and beat them.

534
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Speaker 2: I think that's pretty cool.

535
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Speaker 1: It's so cool, And you're right. Patrick loves Tyler, Texas.

536
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: He loves white House, white House High School, he loves

537
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: the Piney Woods region of East Texas where he's from.

538
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 1: He loves Texas Tech, and he loves the Chief Kingdom.

539
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: He plants wherever he's at, and he just affects everybody's

540
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,199
Speaker 1: life in that region. That's why he is such a

541
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: special human being. And now he's going to go play

542
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys on Thanksgiving Day. It's one of the

543
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: coolest things ever. So I think that's part of the reason.

544
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 1: Another layer to this game between the Chiefs and Cowboys

545
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving Day of twenty twenty five. Okay, let's just

546
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 1: kind of look at this game a little bit. Two

547
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 1: teams that are really kind of similar, not just the

548
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 1: way they won the last week, but trying to get

549
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 1: a surge. The Cowboys are a really interesting story. They

550
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: used their bye week they made two big moves that

551
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: change this team. Yeah, and to get Quinn Williams upfront

552
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: defensively from the Jets, and then to get Logan Wilson

553
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: the linebacker from the Bengals is a big deal and

554
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: it's changed their defense. We can look at defensive numbers

555
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: and how rotten they are. We've got to look at

556
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: the last two weeks and see how much those two

557
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 1: guys have improved this team. The Eagles are struggling offensively,

558
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: I got it, and they only had twenty one points

559
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 1: the Raiders for the other opponent. This is not the

560
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: cowboy defense that we saw giving up forty points to

561
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: the Packers in a forty to forty tie, or to

562
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 1: give up thirty eight points on five other occasions. This

563
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: is a better cowboy defense. But I know where you're going.

564
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 1: Probably let's start with the cowboy offense.

565
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we can talk about all of it. The

566
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 2: cowboy offense is really interesting. I want to tag the

567
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 2: defensive point though, because you mentioned how their overall numbers

568
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: indicate that they've struggled, and that is accurate, But the

569
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 2: last two weeks have been a different story because of

570
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 2: everyone that they've kind of added to their defense. So

571
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 2: overall their defense is near the bottom of the NFL,

572
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 2: and yards allowed per game, points per game, red zone

573
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: defense their last in the NFL, and third down defense

574
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 2: they're also allowing two hundred and fifty passing yards per game.

575
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Speaker 2: That's thirtieth in the NFL, and they're twenty nine passing

576
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 2: plays of at least twenty five yards allowed, are most

577
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Speaker 2: in the NFL. You hear that and say their defense

578
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 2: isn't very good, that is a fair assessment. But they

579
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 2: look totally different over the last two weeks because they

580
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 2: have different people on defense. So you mentioned Quentin Williams,

581
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 2: adding him deal. He had eight pressures last week against

582
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: the Eagles. Logan Wilson a good player that was on

583
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: the Bengals for years and years. We know all about him.

584
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 2: But also they got damar Avion over shown back. Yeah,

585
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 2: he's played good football. And then rookie Chavon Revel Junior,

586
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 2: a guy that we looked at in the draft. He

587
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 2: loved playing for him.

588
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was one of those where we were going

589
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: back and forth, like if he comes back and he's healthy,

590
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 1: because he had the knee injuries at East Carolina. They go,

591
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: this guy's gonna be a stud.

592
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 2: And he's played for them, and I just think that

593
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: their defense has kind of a different swagger to it now.

594
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 2: They've allowed an average of just nineteen points over the

595
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 2: last two weeks. So yeah, their defense overall has struggled.

596
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: That's why their record is what it is. But I'm

597
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: not sure it's necessarily the same defense that teams are

598
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: seeing earlier in the year. And really it begins with

599
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 2: quent and Williams. You can't let him wreck the game

600
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 2: because he's a monster, and already I think they're seeing

601
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: dividends from that trade.

602
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, people forget he was the third pick overall in

603
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: the draft in twenty nineteen. But in these two games,

604
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: when you look at what he's done eight pressures, tackle

605
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: for loss in the game against the Raiders and then

606
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: the game against the Eagles, a hass sack, a tackle

607
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: for loss, five quarterback hits. But what he has done

608
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 1: is also helped the others. OsO Diggi Zua has been

609
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: very much a force in these two games. Because you

610
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: got to pay attention to Quinn Williams, right, And then

611
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: you and I both looked at Donovan Azeruque. Yeah he's

612
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: another guy in the draft. We were going, ooh, the

613
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: Boston college kid. These guys are both helped by these

614
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: additions on defense. This is you really can't look statistically

615
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: to me at the Cowboys defense overall, you have to

616
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: really look at these additions guys coming back off the

617
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: injury list, because it's a defense now that's ready for

618
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: the Cowboys to make a run.

619
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a different cast of characters. I don't think

620
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: this Cowboys team makes the comeback that they did against

621
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 2: the Eagles if it was like Week five. I think

622
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: it's a totally different team. And that's because their offense

623
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: is really good and these guys are never out of

624
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: the game, and their defense didn't necessarily need to be

625
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 2: a top five defense, just a little bit better than

626
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 2: it was, and I think they've achieved that. Anumber four

627
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: scoring offense in the NFL, in the top total offense

628
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: in the NFL in terms of yards per game. It's

629
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: kind of funny we're coming off the Wait a minute,

630
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: didn't we just say that on the list now coming

631
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 2: up this game against the Colts, which had this historic offense,

632
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 2: and we're celebrating that we shut them down, which, by

633
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: the way, I talked about how we had faced the

634
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: number one scoring offense in the NFL coming into a

635
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 2: game twice already in Detroit and in Baltimore, and I

636
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: talked about how we held both of them to twenty

637
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 2: or fewer points? How many points? Do we hold the

638
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: Colts to twenty points? So hey, why not? Once again?

639
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: I mean easier said than done, but let's just go

640
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 2: hold the Cowboys to twenty points. What do you say

641
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: let's do that?

642
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: I'd I'd love that. It'd be hard to do though,

643
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: And what happened to George Pickens? Yeah, he stopped running

644
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: routes against us as a Steeler on Christmas Day, allowing

645
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,719
Speaker 1: Justin Reid to go intercept the pass at the goal line. Now,

646
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he looks like the red birth

647
00:29:55,560 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: of Michael Irvin. Six or nine, nine targets, nine catches

648
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: in the game, it's Philadelphia, and he's third in the

649
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Speaker 1: league in receptions per game and tied for third and

650
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Speaker 1: receiving touchdowns. What is that the same guy? Is this

651
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Speaker 1: seem weird to you? So?

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Speaker 2: Field Yates just put out a tweet right before we

653
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Speaker 2: came on that Pickens has more receiving yards than all

654
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Speaker 2: of the Steelers' receivers combined. Not a great move. Yeah,

655
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Speaker 2: he's been incredible. He has ten catches of at least

656
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Speaker 2: twenty five yards this year. He has back to back

657
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Speaker 2: games with at least one hundred and forty receiving yards.

658
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Speaker 2: He has eighteen catches for two hundred and ninety yards

659
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Speaker 2: in his last two games. And then Ceedee Lamb. I

660
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Speaker 2: get he had some drops against the Eagles, but still

661
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Speaker 2: Seede Lamb is one of the best receivers in football.

662
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Speaker 2: He has eight catches of at least twenty five yards

663
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Speaker 2: this year. So when you're looking at this Cowboys offense

664
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Speaker 2: with Dak Prescott, he wants to throw the ball all

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Speaker 2: over the yard, and it's not necessarily like the yards

666
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Speaker 2: after the catch stuff like the quick slants and they

667
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Speaker 2: break free. It is like he wants to throw the

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Speaker 2: ball thirty yards and George Pickens makes a play over

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Speaker 2: a dB. You can't allow Pickens and Ceedee Lamb to

670
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Speaker 2: go crazy in this game. But really, I think as

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Speaker 2: good as they are with the passing game begins with

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Speaker 2: slowing down Javonte Williams. Because if you look at where

673
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Speaker 2: they had a lot of success against the Eagles defense,

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Speaker 2: it was play action. So Daku's play action on Sunday

675
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Speaker 2: really effectively. He was nine of eleven for one hundred

676
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Speaker 2: and seventy four yards on those dropbacks because Javonte Williams

677
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: was having a good game. He rushed for like ninety yards.

678
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Speaker 2: Kind Of an interesting career resurgence for Williams because we

679
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Speaker 2: know him from his time with the Broncos, right and

680
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: pretty good player, but never really matched what he did

681
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Speaker 2: as rookie year, I think because of injuries. But this

682
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: year he's rushed for nearly nine hundred yards and eight touchdowns.

683
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: It's already his most rushing yards in a single season

684
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Speaker 2: since his rookie year, and he's averaging just under five

685
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Speaker 2: yards per carry. Got to make sure Javante Williams doesn't

686
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Speaker 2: have like a really solid day in this one because

687
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: it opens up that play action passing for this Cowboys offense.

688
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you mentioned the solid digainst Philly eighty seven

689
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Speaker 1: yards there, but he's fifth. He's been top five in

690
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Speaker 1: NFL in rushing. Javonte wayiam And if you look at

691
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Speaker 1: what he did against the Chiefs back when he was

692
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Speaker 1: a Bronco effective in twenty twenty one, one hundred two

693
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Speaker 1: yards and then twenty seven carries for eighty five in

694
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Speaker 1: the twenty three game. So Javonte Williams can be effective,

695
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Speaker 1: especially being just enough of a run game much like

696
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Speaker 1: a Kareem Hunt for the Kansas City Chiefs, But for

697
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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, it's all about him being healthy. When he's healthy,

698
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Speaker 1: he's awesome. The ankle injury in twenty twenty, calf injury

699
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, hamstring injury last year, very serious

700
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Speaker 1: in twenty four and people forget between the Eagles run

701
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Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl where we beat him in fifty

702
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Speaker 1: seven and lost to him in fifty nine. The Cowboys

703
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: won the division in between those two years. Now, they've

704
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Speaker 1: only got five playoff wins since that nineteen ninety five

705
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Speaker 1: team we alluded to. They're five and thirteen in the playoffs,

706
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: but many times it has been Dak Prescott being injured.

707
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Speaker 1: He's not injured this year, and when he's not injured,

708
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Speaker 1: they're a force. You and I both talked about it.

709
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Speaker 1: It's like a seven on seven team, and I mean

710
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Speaker 1: that as a compliment. A stat that jumps off the

711
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Speaker 1: page at you. About this Cowboy team in twenty five

712
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: they're number one in the league and scoring at the

713
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Speaker 1: end of halves into the first half into the game.

714
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Speaker 1: Their two minute offense is number one in the National

715
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Speaker 1: Football League, and the two minute offense are scoring at

716
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Speaker 1: the end of halves many times tempo, it's not let's

717
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Speaker 1: look to the sideline or let's take a bunch of

718
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Speaker 1: time and look through all of our iPad, or look

719
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Speaker 1: through the iPad to figure it's go. You just figure

720
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Speaker 1: it out and go, you know, seven on seven, which

721
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Speaker 1: we've seen Mahomes do that. But that's what the Cowboys

722
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Speaker 1: are doing this year with Pickens resurgence through in Turp

723
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Speaker 1: and two man. Turpin's not a slouch. Jake Ferguson's a

724
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Speaker 1: good tight end, made the Pro Bowl two years ago.

725
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Speaker 1: All kinds of weapons on a really good offense.

726
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Speaker 2: So I chatted with Ari earlier today, which we'll play

727
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Speaker 2: here in a minute, and one thing I talked about

728
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Speaker 2: with him is the Cowboys are really good at like

729
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: backyard football, Like they can just go out there and

730
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Speaker 2: maybe the play itself fizzles out, but then Pickens just

731
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Speaker 2: makes a guy miss and he's wide open deep down

732
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Speaker 2: the field and you think you have him off the

733
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Speaker 2: field and they hit you for a big play. Really,

734
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Speaker 2: I think big plays through the air are key in

735
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 2: this game. And it's ironic because the Cowboys we talked

736
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Speaker 2: about how their defense does look different, and it does,

737
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Speaker 2: but The Cowboys have struggled, like I mentioned, against deep

738
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Speaker 2: passing plays this year defensively. I mean they've allowed twenty

739
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 2: nine passing plays of at least twenty five yards this year.

740
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Speaker 2: For the Chiefs in this game, hit some of those

741
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 2: plays when you're on offense, and don't let the Cowboys

742
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Speaker 2: hit them when you're on defense.

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Speaker 1: And we can overlook the offensive line once again, third straight,

744
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: fourth straight game. We've played a really good offensive line. Now.

745
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Speaker 1: They lost Tyron Smith and Zach Martin in the offseason retiring,

746
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 1: but they've replaced him. They have drafted four offensive linemen

747
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Speaker 1: in the first three rounds over the past four drafts,

748
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Speaker 1: including Cooper Bebee from Piper High School in Kansas City.

749
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Speaker 1: He's their center, former Case State All Big twelve Star. Yeah,

750
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: same alma mater with Eric stone Street Piper Pirate. But

751
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: this is a Cowboy team that's good and with these

752
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: defensive additions, they're much better than what they look like

753
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: in the first eight games of the year. And now

754
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: they're setting at five to five one Chiefs are six

755
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: and five. We mentioned all the layers to this game.

756
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,439
Speaker 1: Bet you had a chance to catch up with Ari

757
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: to be our spy around the AFC and look at

758
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Speaker 1: the rest of the league.

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Speaker 3: Hello to everyone, It's time for Out West with Ari

760
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Speaker 3: Wolf a special Thanksgiving addition as it is Week thirteen,

761
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Speaker 3: and while what a crazy week twelve we had, I'm

762
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 3: excited to be joined as always by Matt McMullen. We

763
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 3: start in the AFC West, but I normally don't start

764
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Speaker 3: talking deeply about the Chiefs. But considering two teams were

765
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Speaker 3: off the Chargers in the Broncos go to go right

766
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Speaker 3: to the Chiefs and the Colts eight thirty seven to

767
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Speaker 3: go in the fourth quarter, Chiefs find themselves down twenty

768
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Speaker 3: to nine, and it felt dark in my house at

769
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Speaker 3: that moment. It felt like you fall to five and six,

770
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 3: like you'd have to do circus tricks in your head

771
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 3: to figure out how you're going to get to the playoffs.

772
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Speaker 3: The Chiefs defense steps up huge. They completely dominated the

773
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Speaker 3: Colts on their last four possessions. The Chiefs find a

774
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Speaker 3: way to win in overtime. Ma Homes throws for a

775
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 3: season best three hundred and fifty two yards. But to

776
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 3: me this was about the defense and really about the

777
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 3: at arrow hit. I don't know in recent memory if

778
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 3: I felt the lift of the crowd as much as

779
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Speaker 3: I felt at watching yesterday, you were there. What was

780
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Speaker 3: it like to be there at Arrowhead and feel that

781
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 3: crowd sort of will the team to victory.

782
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Speaker 2: So I'm glad that came through on TV because that

783
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 2: definitely was a real thing that I felt. And it's

784
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 2: easy to be loud and screaming and cheering when the

785
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 2: team's playing well and everything is going great. But what

786
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 2: was so cool is that the Chiefs are down eleven

787
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 2: points and Kareem fumbles in the red zone and the Colts,

788
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 2: who have been playing such good football all year. It's

789
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Speaker 2: the top offense in the NFL, one of the best

790
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: offenses statistically since the seven Patriots. Right, they have the

791
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Speaker 2: ball in the fourth quarter after you commit a crucial

792
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 2: giveaway and they're up two touchdowns, that game ninety nine

793
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Speaker 2: percent of the time is over. Well, the crowd said,

794
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 2: we have a one percent chance. We're gonna give our

795
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 2: defense all the energy we possibly can, and you could

796
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: feel it like the energy was like palpable. And for

797
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: the crowd to get behind the team like that when

798
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 2: they knew the team was up against the wall, the

799
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 2: challenge was greatest, right, and the defense responded to it

800
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 2: and to force that offense and to four consecutive three

801
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: and outs to end the game. The Colts had thirteen

802
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: net yards on their final four drives. I mean, seriously,

803
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 2: if you go look at the numbers, the Colts led

804
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 2: the NFL and like every single offensive metric, you can't

805
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: get him off the field. Fewest three and outs in

806
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Speaker 2: the NFL going into that game, thirteen all season, and

807
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: they had four in a row when it mattered most.

808
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 2: I mean, that's all about Steve Spagnolo. It's all about

809
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,959
Speaker 2: this defense, but it's also about the crowd. And again,

810
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 2: I'm glad you could pick it up on TV because

811
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: the energy was real. There's a reason the Chiefs are

812
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 2: seventeen and one and their last eighteen home games dating

813
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 2: back to twenty twenty three. The crowd plays a big role,

814
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 2: and uh, definitely on Sunday by the crowd earned that win.

815
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Speaker 3: I think there was also something very unique that you

816
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 3: might not have seen me because you were there at

817
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: the game. On television, they showed several players approaching Kareem

818
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 3: Hunt after the fumble, picking him up, being like, we're

819
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 3: gonna need you. You got this. There was a sense

820
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: of rallying around you know a teammate that had a

821
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 3: critical mistake in a critical moment that I think spoke

822
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 3: volumes about the tightness of this team and how they

823
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 3: actually care about each other. And they were right. Kareem

824
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 3: comes back in the game, ends up having an impact.

825
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 3: He finishes with over one hundred yards. They really leaned

826
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Speaker 3: into the ground game in a way we haven't often

827
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 3: seen them. That the balance offensively was there. I think

828
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Speaker 3: it really told us a lot about the Chiefs, and

829
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Speaker 3: you know, if they find a way to get into

830
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 3: the postseason, we're going to look back at the way

831
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 3: that crowd reacted to what look a lot of fan

832
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: bases would have been booing at that point, right leaving

833
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 3: you're down twenty to nine, you know, your most important

834
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 3: running back this season. Fun the crowd could have gone

835
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 3: the other way on you. So just super proud of

836
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 3: Chiefs Kingdom. It was amazing. A couple of other notes

837
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 3: from the game. Rashi Rice eight catches one hundred and

838
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 3: forty one yards. I mean, he looked like a Pro

839
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 3: Bowl caliber wide receiver. I thought he looked great. You

840
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 3: don't want to settle for field goals, but you got

841
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 3: to make your field goals Harrison Boker comes through with

842
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 3: five field goals. The game wasn't pretty at all. We'll

843
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 3: get into wild card standings in it a little bit.

844
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 3: But you know, remember we talked about the play against

845
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 3: the Giants where Mahomes, you know, threw the pick and

846
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 3: then went back and got the football. Well, I guess

847
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 3: it wasn't a pick. He threw it backwards. Yeah, that

848
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 3: was like a season changing moment. Well, the fourth quarter

849
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 3: of this game was a potential season changing moment. I

850
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 3: was wondering what it felt like being around the team

851
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 3: after the game yesterday.

852
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was eupik, Right, that felt like a playoff game.

853
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: We all know. That was a really important game for

854
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, and your facing a team in the Colts,

855
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: who was one of the best teams in football, a

856
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 2: team that really has steamrolled over teams this year. It

857
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: was a really tough challenge. The Chiefs have been struggling lately,

858
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 2: particularly on offense. They come into that game just trying

859
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: to find a way to win. And when you're late

860
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 2: in the game and things have not gone well, the

861
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: Chiefs end one for six in the red zone. Right,

862
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: you have the interception early in the game inside your

863
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: own five yard line, you have a touchdown taken off

864
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 2: the board because of a penalty, you have a fumble

865
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 2: in the red zone. I could go on and on.

866
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: Things were not going well for the Chiefs, but they

867
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: hung in there. And I think that's one of the

868
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: things that makes this team so special, not just this year,

869
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 2: but overall during this run of Chiefs football, is it's

870
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: not always super flashy or exciting or yeah, the highlights

871
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 2: are great, but what makes this team so special is

872
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: they never give up. And it's easy to say that,

873
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: it's another thing to actually do it. And when the

874
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 2: odds are so stacked against you and it just feels

875
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: like it's not your day or not your year, the

876
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,479
Speaker 2: fact that you keep going, like, let's just keep doing

877
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 2: our best and see what happens. Sometimes you mess around

878
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 2: and you win the game, and it's pretty cool. And yeah,

879
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 2: I hope that hopefully after a deep playoff run, we're

880
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 2: looking back at that fourth quarter and we say that

881
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 2: might have been when everything turned around for the Chiefs

882
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 2: because everyone picked each other up. The crowd picked the

883
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: defense up, the players picked each other up. I mean,

884
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: I think it's cool that you mentioned Kareem and Rashi

885
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: Well I don't think when you were writing down your

886
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: notes for our podcast today in the first half, you

887
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 2: were writing down Kareem and Rashi, right. I mean, Kareem

888
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 2: has a critical fumble, Rashi some drops in the first half. Well,

889
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: Rashi has one hundred and thirty two receiving yards in

890
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: the second half, two catches on third down that move

891
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: the chains. He has that forty seven yarder on second

892
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 2: and thirteen at the three yard line that got the

893
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 2: game tying drive, going, nineteen yard catch on fourth bound

894
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 2: to keep that drive alive, and the twenty one yard

895
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 2: catch in overtime to set up the game winning field goal.

896
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 2: I mean, the Chiefs don't win that game without Rashi,

897
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 2: and same with Kareem. Four rushing yards. I think one

898
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 2: hundred and three of those yards according to Next Gen

899
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 2: stats were after contact, so he had one yard before contact.

900
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 2: What a warrior. Anyway, I'm rambling, but it was really

901
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 2: cool to see and I'm just really proud of our

902
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 2: guys for how they played on Sunday.

903
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 3: That's good stuff. The other game in the AFC West

904
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 3: yesterday featured Cleveland at Las Vegas in a game that

905
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 3: I wasn't sure what to think of. Other than I

906
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 3: was looking forward to seeing Shador Sanders in his first start.

907
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 3: I was pretty impressed with him. That one deep ball

908
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 3: he threw on the broken play was absolutely gorgeous. He

909
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 3: played well enough for his team to win, didn't make

910
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 3: a bunch of mistakes. Chip Kelly is out as offensive

911
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 3: coordinator for the Raiders. Their offense has been a mess

912
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 3: all season. What were your initial thoughts when you heard

913
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 3: the chip Kelly had been relieved.

914
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: Of his duties. Yeah, kind of interesting. I think he

915
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 2: was the highest paid offensive coordinator in the NFL, right,

916
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 2: and gets let go before the season's over. You know,

917
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 2: I would love for the Raiders to beat the Chargers

918
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: this upcoming week. And you know, when head coaches get fired,

919
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: you always see like the bump from the team, like

920
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 2: a team plays with more energy. Maybe we'll get that

921
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: with chip Kelly not being there anymore, We'll get the

922
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 2: interim offensive coordinator bump. That'd be great if the Raiders

923
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 2: can play great against the Chargers and beat them next weekend.

924
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it's been a tough year for them.

925
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: Obviously they have some weapons, but just never really put

926
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 2: it together. Can I share a quick gripe I have

927
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: with a red Zone though in relation to the Raiders.

928
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 2: So the Chiefs don't play a lot of noon games,

929
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: and by playing a noon game, it meant that I

930
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 2: got home with plenty of time to watch the late

931
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: afternoon window, and I'm watching Red Zone and I'm watching

932
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 2: this Jags and Cardinals game. Kind of locked in on

933
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 2: it because obviously that the Jags are in the wildcard

934
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 2: race right there with us and the Cowboys Eagles game

935
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 2: was really interesting. For one thing, We're playing the Cowboys

936
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 2: in a couple of days, so I wanted to watch them,

937
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 2: and it was just a great game. Well, they keep

938
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 2: putting up like the triple box with the Jags game,

939
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: the Cowboys game, and then this pretty terrible Raiders in

940
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 2: Browns game that is over right, and they keep playing

941
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 2: let's go to triple box here. I'm like, do we

942
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: need the Raiders and Browns anymore? I'm like, I get

943
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: it should ever started. He played pretty well, that's a

944
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 2: cool story. But it's like twenty three to ten in

945
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, and they're all right, let's check back

946
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 2: in with the Raiders and Browns. I don't care about

947
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: this Raiders and Browns game anymore. Whatever, maybe some people do.

948
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 2: But that's my gripe with red zone. Thank you for listening,

949
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 2: fair enough, all right, I'm moving on.

950
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 3: I thought the best game yesterday was the New York

951
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 3: Giants at the Detroit Lions. And our friend Mike Kafka,

952
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 3: who's now the interim head coach for the Giants, had

953
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 3: his team balling. He ran two trick plays for touchdowns,

954
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 3: including one where they threw it back to Winston, who

955
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 3: looked like he'd been playing wide receiver his whole life,

956
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: breaking tackles getting into the end zone. I thought Kafka

957
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 3: had the team really amped. They look like a team

958
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 3: that had something to play for. They outplayed the Lions

959
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 3: for the entire game, but then every decision right. Kafka

960
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 3: and the Giants are up three, less than three minutes

961
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 3: to go, they're inside the ten yard line. They elect

962
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 3: to go for it on fourth down. I get it,

963
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 3: you want the dagger. It would have effectively ended the game.

964
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 3: But there must be something in the analytics. And I'm

965
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 3: not an analytics guy that says that going from up

966
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 3: three to up six is not important. I'm old school.

967
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 3: I think it does. I'd have taken the three and

968
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 3: force the Lions to score a touchdown. With hindsight, we

969
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 3: all look brilliant, right, we all got twenty twenty vision.

970
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 3: But I think what we saw with my calf is

971
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 3: he's definitely got the juice and the goods to be

972
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: a good NFL coach. But also you know how you

973
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 3: manage a game and the decisions you make. The Giants

974
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 3: also at times with the lead in the fourth quarter,

975
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 3: we're throwing the ball when I think everybody else I

976
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 3: thought they should run the ball. But give the Lions credit.

977
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 3: Jared Goff had a bad day. My biggest takeaway from

978
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 3: the game is that jamiir gives if I was starting

979
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 3: a team today and I could choose a running back

980
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 3: and that you know we couldn't. We're just choosing running backs,

981
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 3: he'd be the first running back off the board. That

982
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 3: guy is the best player I've seen play this year.

983
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 3: His total yards yesterday from scrimmage were like close or here.

984
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 3: It is two hundred and sixty four yards, two hundred

985
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 3: and nineteen yards on the ground, three touchdowns. He scores

986
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 3: on their first play in overtime. So my takeaway is

987
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 3: are Kafka is good enough to be a head coach,

988
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 3: but he'll learn from it. Jamiir Gibbs is awesome. I mean,

989
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 3: he's as much fun to watch. It mean, when my

990
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 3: wife watches him, I feel like she gasps like four

991
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 3: or five times a game. It was a must win

992
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 3: for the Lions. It was a ton of fun. I

993
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 3: know you were working. I'm sure you saw something of

994
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 3: the highlights, but to me, it wasn't even close. It

995
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 3: was an amazing football game.

996
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jamior Gibbs is incredible. I think he's like the

997
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 2: perfect kind of player for the modern NFL where he

998
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 2: can be that running back who can carry the ball

999
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 2: in between the tackles, but he has the explosiveness to

1000
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: take a carry to the house at any time. But

1001
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 2: he can also be such a weapon in the passing

1002
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: game where he's like a legiti that receiver, not just

1003
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 2: a running back who catches the ball. I'm with you,

1004
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 2: just an incredible game kind of willed them to victory.

1005
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: I do feel bad for Mike Kafka because I like

1006
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 2: Mike Kafka a lot and think he has a super

1007
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: bright career ahead of him. You're right about the hindsight thing,

1008
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 2: because it's so difficult. The Giants have blown all these

1009
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 2: fourth quarter leads. This year, so I understand the mindset

1010
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: like we're not going to play not to lose, We're

1011
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 2: going to play to win. We've been at bites of course, right,

1012
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: And that's also I guess why you throw the ball

1013
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter when you had the lead. You

1014
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: don't want to look back on it and say like, oh,

1015
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 2: we're playing not to lose. Well, unfortunately, sometimes when you

1016
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: play to win, you end up losing. I get it,

1017
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: But still crazy game. I think the Lions in a

1018
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 2: lot of ways their season is kind of mirrored our season,

1019
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 2: Like they come in with big expectations and just some

1020
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: games have not gone their way. They've had some bad

1021
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 2: luck and some injuries. And then kind of crazy same

1022
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 2: situation yesterday where they're down by double bidgets against a

1023
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 2: team that is playing really good football and you're at

1024
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: home and you find a way to send it to

1025
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: overtime win it. How about Jake Bates hitting a fifty

1026
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 2: nine yard or to tie the game. Yeah, I mean

1027
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 2: it's just incredible. Like we've talked about it before, but

1028
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: like fifty nine yards even ten years ago is like crazy, like, man,

1029
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 2: you can't be doing that, and he just nails it.

1030
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's one of those games where it was

1031
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 2: happening during our game, so I had to go back

1032
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 2: and just watch the highlights. But digging into it, incredible

1033
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 2: game and I'm with you that Jamier Gibbs is the takeaway.

1034
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 2: It's funny how these things change, though, because all season

1035
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 2: it's like Jonathan Taylor is the MVP, and then right

1036
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 2: the Chiefs shut him down on Sunday and it's like,

1037
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: never mind, now it's Jamier Gibbs, you know. But yeah,

1038
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 2: I'm with you, awesome player.

1039
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 3: Well, I guess I also meant like, if you're considering

1040
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 3: age and all the other factors, like Saquon Barkley last

1041
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 3: year OFFENSI Player of the Year, it's not like he's really

1042
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 3: lost this step. But you know, he's a couple of

1043
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 3: years older than Gibbs. Jonathan Taylor a couple of years older.

1044
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 3: So to me, it's if I was starting a team today.

1045
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 3: The reason Gibbs is, yes, the talent wise, they're all

1046
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 3: pretty similar, but Gibbs is the youngest of the bunch,

1047
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 3: and I just think he's only going to get better.

1048
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, let's move on upcoming this week. Let's

1049
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 3: leave with the Chiefs and the Cowboys. It's the Thanksgiving

1050
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 3: Day game. It's a huge game. Cowboys coming off a

1051
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 3: big comeback against their arch rival. They come back from

1052
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 3: now twenty one to nothing to win. My biggest takeaway

1053
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 3: from that game is George Pickens is a beast. He

1054
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 3: you know, is he going to be a free agent.

1055
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: He is going to get a huge contract. He is

1056
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 3: virtually unstoppable at this point. So I think the biggest

1057
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 3: challenge amongst many challenges for the Chiefs and their defense

1058
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 3: is how do you stop Pickens? Because man Dak Prescott,

1059
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 3: you know he's got Ceedee Lamb as well. Ceedee Lamb

1060
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 3: had some catchpes but some critical drops as well. Really,

1061
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 3: George Pickens at this point, to me, is the alpha

1062
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 3: receiver on that team. If you're Steve Spagnola, what do

1063
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 3: you think are some of the things you're focusing on

1064
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 3: to get ready for Thursday and slowing down the Cowboys defense?

1065
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: Well, you know, Mitch and I were joking around about it.

1066
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 2: You shut down the Colts offense, which I was talking

1067
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 2: about earlier, which is this incredible historic offense, and your

1068
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: reward is now you get to face the number one

1069
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 2: scoring offense in the NFL and the Cowboys, who I

1070
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 2: think past the Colts now, Yeah, they're awesome, and I

1071
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 2: think they are a little bit different in terms of

1072
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 2: how they do it. So two great offenses where the

1073
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 2: Colts are I don't mean this in a bad way.

1074
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 2: It's a compliment to Shane Steichen, like so built around scheme,

1075
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: Like they have this incredible scheme right, not that the

1076
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 2: Cowboys don't, but the Cowboys to me strike me more

1077
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 2: as like a backyard football kind of team and it

1078
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 2: works for him and listen to the Chiefs have been

1079
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 2: that way a lot too, so I get it. It works.

1080
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 2: And when you have maybe the best receiver tandem in

1081
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 2: the league right now in Lamb and Pickens, makes it

1082
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 2: easier to do that. Like even if Lamb is the

1083
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 2: number two right now, it's a pretty good number two

1084
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 2: having seen a Lamb. So yeah, I mean the Chiefs

1085
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 2: will have their hands full. You got to find a

1086
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 2: way to not let those guys have huge plays. And

1087
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: what Pickens has I think one hundred and forty receiving

1088
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 2: yards and back to back games. You can't let him

1089
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 2: go off for a seventy yard touchdown. So yeah, you know,

1090
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 2: it's Monday morning after the Chiefs just beat the Colts,

1091
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 2: so I need to dig into them more actually and

1092
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 2: have some more like solid thoughts about how you do it.

1093
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 2: But on the surface, it's pretty obvious you've got to

1094
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 2: find a way to make sure they can't just hit

1095
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 2: you for big plays over the top. But I think

1096
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 2: it's more you have to force them to be methodical

1097
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 2: and get some pressure on Dak Prescott, who you can't

1098
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,959
Speaker 2: let him sit back there and just throw the ball

1099
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 2: all over the yard. So quick turnaround, But after what

1100
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 2: the Chiefs did defensively against the Colts, I'm always gonna

1101
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 2: have faith and spags to figure out a way to

1102
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 2: get it done.

1103
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: Well.

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00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 3: When I think about television ratings, I think this game

1105
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 3: has the chance to be the highest rated Thanksgiving game

1106
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 3: of all time.

1107
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 2: Right, or game in general, any non Super Bowl game ever. Yeah, yeah,

1108
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 2: I think.

1109
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 3: It has a chance to be the biggest ratings And

1110
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 3: it does help them that, you know, the Cowboys are

1111
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 3: back in the playoff picture, the Chiefs coming off this win.

1112
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 3: It's a must win game for both teams. Just adds

1113
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 3: to the drama. And you got two of the best

1114
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 3: most iconic names in the National Football League, So Chiefs

1115
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 3: and Cowboys Thursday will be fun. More in the AFC

1116
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 3: West coming up, the Raiders hit the Chargers. You mentioned

1117
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 3: it earlier that you're hoping for a Raiders upset. I

1118
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 3: think that's a big long shot. I think the Chargers

1119
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 3: coming off a bye where their last game they were

1120
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 3: embarrassed at Jacksonville, I expect a hardball team to come

1121
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 3: back and play good, physical football. I just don't see

1122
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 3: the Raiders going on the road to winning. Maybe they'll

1123
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,439
Speaker 3: get a bump from whoever is going to be calling

1124
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 3: the plays that hadn't been announced yet when we're recorded

1125
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 3: on this Monday morning. But you know, every game for

1126
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 3: anybody in the wildcard race right now is a must

1127
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 3: win game. Other than hoping the Raiders can win, what

1128
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 3: are your thoughts on the Raiders Chargers? And keep in

1129
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 3: mind the Chargers won in Las Vegas twenty to nine

1130
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 3: earlier this season.

1131
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 2: Well, one matchup to watch is that Raiders pass rush

1132
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 2: against the Chargers offensive line. That's obvious. The Chargers offensively

1133
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 2: just haven't been the same team without Joe Walt, and

1134
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 2: they have to face Max Crosby on Sunday, so that's

1135
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 2: one thing to watch. I'm with you, though, I mean

1136
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 2: I just think that the Chargers are a much better

1137
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 2: team than they showed against the Jags a couple of

1138
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 2: weeks ago. They got to go out there and do it.

1139
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 1: Though.

1140
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,919
Speaker 2: For the Raiders, can you not turn the ball over?

1141
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 2: Can you protect the football? Can you put some drives together?

1142
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 2: I think I actually could see this being kind of

1143
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 2: a rock fight kind of game where the Raiders pass

1144
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 2: rush can get after the Chargers, but it boils down

1145
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 2: to can the Raiders offense go down there and make

1146
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 2: them pay? I don't know. I mean, they haven't really

1147
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 2: done that much at all this year. Maybe the interim

1148
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator can can whisper some things and figure it out.

1149
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, on paper, the Chargers win this

1150
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,439
Speaker 2: game coming off the buy, but you never know. Ari

1151
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 2: and Grocot for the Raiders, but you got.

1152
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 1: To do it.

1153
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 3: Last game in AFC West for this weekend is the

1154
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 3: Broncos at the Commanders, and look for everything tells you

1155
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 3: that the Broncos are gonna win. But let me just

1156
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 3: throw a thought in here. Dealing with success is different

1157
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 3: than dealing with adversity. The Broncos right are coming on

1158
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 3: off this euphoric win against the Chiefs. Then you go

1159
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 3: into the bye week. Everybody's telling you how great you are,

1160
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 3: that you guys are now Super Bowl contenders, You're an

1161
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 3: elite team. Keep reminding it over and over. That sometimes

1162
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 3: has an effect on a team. The Commanders have been

1163
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 3: embarrassed of le they have not played well. It's the NFL.

1164
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 3: It makes me think this game might be far more

1165
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 3: competitive than people think. I know, I'm probably just trying

1166
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 3: to trick myself into believing the Commanders can come up

1167
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 3: with an upset. This is what we call the Matt

1168
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 3: McMullen special, where you convince yourself against the odds. Do

1169
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 3: you see any chance for the Broncos to lose out

1170
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 3: East against the Commanders?

1171
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 2: I mean any chance? Sure, I'm pulling up a schedule

1172
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 2: right now. So the fact that it's Sunday night football

1173
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 2: I like on the road, so it's going to be

1174
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 2: a primetime atmosphere and the Broncos have to travel across

1175
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 2: the country. And you're right, I mean, they're feeling really

1176
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 2: good about themselves right now. This is the growth of

1177
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 2: a young team. You win a big game you're expected

1178
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 2: to win. How do you handle that? And a lot

1179
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 2: of these games with the Broncos, including ours has come

1180
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: down to the final seconds, so the margin has been

1181
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 2: thin despite how great their record is. My question for you,

1182
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels isn't going to play? Right or is there

1183
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: any chance.

1184
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 3: At this point he is not? I don't think he's playing.

1185
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 3: But again, this is rare that we do this on

1186
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 3: a Monday morning, so you know, usually like you got

1187
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 3: to wait for the Wednesday injury report for a team

1188
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 3: playing on Sunday to really know. But let's assume for

1189
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 3: this conversation he's not playing.

1190
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 2: What about Terry McLaurin. Is he back?

1191
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 3: Also have to wait for that.

1192
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 2: Okay, they are banged up.

1193
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 3: Look, everything tells me the Broncos win this game. But again,

1194
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 3: I just think when a team has never dealt with

1195
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 3: being told that they're great, you know, after a big

1196
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 3: performance and you've got a young quarterback, I'm just trying

1197
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 3: to convince myself the Commanders can be competitive.

1198
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 2: I think there's a chance. Say you know, again, for

1199
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 2: everyone listening, we're recording this on Monday, like twelve hours

1200
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 2: after the Chiefs just beat the Colts less than that,

1201
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,760
Speaker 2: but so we don't know the injury reports or anything.

1202
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 2: If Jayden Daniels plays, they definitely have a chance. If

1203
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 2: he doesn't, I think Mariota could still do it. I

1204
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 2: Mean the Broncos are playing all these low scoring games

1205
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 2: just that come down to the final minutes. They've trailed

1206
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, I think in five of their

1207
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 2: nine wins. So yeah, I mean it's certainly possible. And

1208
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 2: a lot of those games weren't against teams that were

1209
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 2: necessarily like incredible. I mean they were trailing against the

1210
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,439
Speaker 2: Jets at one point there had to come back.

1211
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 3: From eighteen nineteen again quarter right, So it's not like

1212
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 3: they've been just rolling teams.

1213
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's definitely a chance, but the Commanders have

1214
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,760
Speaker 2: to go out there and play well. If McLaurin plays,

1215
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 2: they got a shot. But they got to go out

1216
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 2: there and play well. And the Commanders have been so

1217
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 2: up and down this year, so yeah, we'll see, Well

1218
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 2: we're rooting for a Commander's when on Sunday night football,

1219
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 2: we'll see I like that at some prime time for

1220
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:54,720
Speaker 2: some reason, I think that makes a difference.

1221
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 3: That helps, or like zab washing it and then at

1222
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 3: least you can gain some dignity and respect from showing

1223
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,919
Speaker 3: the lead that you go out there fighting and beat

1224
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 3: a team with a great record. All right, So now

1225
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 3: we added this last week. It's a deeper look at

1226
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 3: the wild card. So the way I look at it is,

1227
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 3: you've got six teams right now, the Chargers, the Jaguars,

1228
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 3: the Bills, the Steelers, the Texans, and the Chiefs are

1229
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 3: battling for three spots. Only a game separates all of

1230
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 3: those teams. So it's going to be fascinating. So this week,

1231
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 3: Jacksonville is at Tennessee. Hard to see them losing that

1232
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 3: game unless they just come out and lay in a

1233
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 3: buffalo at Pittsburgh is fascinating to me, right because right

1234
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 3: the loser of that game, especially if it's Pittsburgh. So

1235
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 3: are we actually rooting for the Bills in back to

1236
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 3: back weeks or is there some world that you see

1237
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 3: where this sounds insane where the Bills don't make the playoffs?

1238
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not completely out of the realm of possibility. Now,

1239
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 3: they still have the Eagles at home, and they still

1240
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 3: have to play at New England. So let's just say

1241
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 3: they lose all three of those games and suddenly they

1242
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 3: have seven losses. Are they going to get in at

1243
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 3: ten and seven? So, to me, the biggest game for

1244
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,439
Speaker 3: everyone in the Wildcard this week is Buffalo at Pittsburgh.

1245
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 3: And then the other one that involves two important teams

1246
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 3: is the Texans, who are suddenly hot having beaten the Bills.

1247
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 3: There are six and five right people rolled off the Texans,

1248
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 3: they were at it. They're playing in a Colts team

1249
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 3: that's coming off the loss of the Chiefs. So I've

1250
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 3: just told you about what three big games take this

1251
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 3: in any direction you want. The AMC Wildcard race is

1252
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 3: going to be amazing to watch, especially if the Chiefs

1253
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 3: find a way in. But for the sport, it's incredible

1254
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 3: to have these six like quality teams battling for three spots.

1255
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nuts. I'm looking at the standings right now.

1256
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 2: So the Chiefs winning yesterday was gigantic, I mean, for

1257
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 2: so many reasons beyond just the vibes of it all.

1258
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 2: To keep pace with all these teams and to do

1259
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 2: it against a team like the Colts is such a

1260
00:58:55,040 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 2: big deal. So the Buffalo Pittsburgh game is interesting. I

1261
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: think it's almost a win win for the Chiefs whoever

1262
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: ends up coming out on top of that game. Now

1263
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 2: that I've had more time to think about it, and

1264
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 2: the Texans end up winning that incredible game over the Bills.

1265
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 2: I'm okay with Buffalo losing because Buffalo is one game

1266
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 2: better than us right now, which is not to think

1267
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 2: about considering where these two teams were just a couple

1268
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 2: weeks ago. Are they going to fall out of the

1269
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 2: playoff picture? I don't think so, because it's the Bills

1270
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 2: just like the Chiefs. In my mind, I get that

1271
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 2: it's been an uphill climb, but the Chiefs are going

1272
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 2: to find a way to get it done. I think

1273
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:33,439
Speaker 2: Buffalo will too. Pittsburgh's interesting though, because Pittsburgh I feel

1274
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 2: like it's been this inevitable situation where they've seen Baltimore

1275
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 2: in their rear view mirror for weeks and weeks and weeks,

1276
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 2: and Baltimore's keeps winning. Now Baltimore, because of whatever tiebreaker,

1277
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,919
Speaker 2: is actually the four seed after starting one to five,

1278
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 2: and Pittsburgh is on the outside looking in, and you

1279
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 2: have to play the Bills, who I get have been struggling,

1280
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 2: but it's still the Bills. If you lose, you're just

1281
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you're dropping completely if these other

1282
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 2: teams are going to keep pace. So Pittsburgh is a

1283
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 2: team that I'm watching that, who would have thought even

1284
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 2: three or four weeks ago this would be their situation?

1285
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 2: So pretty interesting, man, the Cardinals almost had the Jags yesterday.

1286
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 2: They almost did. But what's interesting too is that Jacksonville

1287
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 2: plays the Colts twice. Now, if you're looking at it

1288
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 2: purely from where the landscape is right now, you're like,

1289
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 2: all right, well, you hope the Colts win those games

1290
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 2: and knock the Jags down and the Chiefs can make

1291
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 2: up that ground, and sure that makes sense. But also

1292
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 2: if the Jags win those games, well, the Colts are

1293
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 2: at eight and three now, they're only two games ahead

1294
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 2: of the Chiefs, and the Chiefs have the tiebreaker over

1295
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 2: the Colts. So if the Jags were able to have

1296
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 2: like a surge and the Colts slip up a little bit,

1297
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 2: you could be looking at a situation where there's a

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01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 2: tiebreaker between the Colts and the Chiefs, and the Chiefs,

1299
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 2: by virtue of the game yesterday, have that tiebreaker. So

1300
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 2: it's going to be a crazy last handful of weeks.

1301
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 2: The most important thing for the Chiefs, and it's obvious,

1302
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 2: is just keep taking care of your own business winning games.

1303
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 2: The rest of this will figure itself out. Because all

1304
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 2: these teams are playing each other. Just keep winning and

1305
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 2: we'll be all right. But it is pretty interesting, fascinating,

1306
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 2: all right. So what I think is the best game

1307
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 2: coming up this week? You've got the Packers at the Lions.

1308
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a huge game for both teams.

1309
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 3: Keep in mind Week one, we all thought the Packers

1310
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 3: were super Bowl bound. They really destroyed the Lions twenty

1311
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 3: seven to thirteen. They dominated from start to finish. It

1312
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 3: seems like a lifetime ago. They're bold trailing the Bears,

1313
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 3: who are eight and three, which is wild. That's its

1314
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 3: own story in and of itself. But the Lions, this

1315
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 3: is a must win. The Lions are currently the number

1316
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 3: eight seed and the Packers are currently the number six seed.

1317
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 3: I mean, it is kind of crazy to think two

1318
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 3: teams that I think we just thought were locks for

1319
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 3: the playoffs. Although loser of this game, you're really gonna

1320
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 3: have some work to do to get into the postseason.

1321
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 3: Watching the Lions play yesterday, that was not inspiring football.

1322
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 3: They did not great against the Eagles. I think if

1323
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 3: I'm alions fanom concerned, where are you on where the

1324
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 3: Packers are this season? What are your thoughts on the game?

1325
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 3: On Thursday between the Lions and the Packers.

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01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 2: I think I've said it numerous times during our conversations

1327
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 2: that I just can't get a read on the Packers.

1328
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,479
Speaker 2: After the first two weeks, they looked like the best

1329
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 2: team in football, and since then they're really good some

1330
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 2: days and just not other days. Yeah, that Eagles game

1331
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 2: was like difficult to watch, right, So I don't know.

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01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 2: It's a big game for both teams. I think Detroit

1333
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 2: getting like annihilated in Week one by Green Bay was

1334
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 2: such a surprise, and I'm sure Detroit hasn't forgotten about that.

1335
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 2: I'm just curious to see if Detroit can kind of

1336
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 2: return the favor in a way. I don't think they're

1337
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 2: gonna win by twenty points, but I do think that

1338
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 2: Detroit to me looks like the better team, even though

1339
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 2: they've been up and down this year as well. I

1340
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 2: like the roster more now. Not having Sam Laporta for

1341
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 2: it seems like the rest of the year. That's a big,

1342
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 2: big deal, and I think that could end up being

1343
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 2: the difference if the Lions can't win this game. But

1344
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think, just like with the Chiefs,

1345
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 2: I think a win like the Lions had yesterday is

1346
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 2: the kind of thing that can propel you forward, like, hey,

1347
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 2: a lot of things have gone wrong this year, but

1348
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 2: you know, if we stay together, we can win these games.

1349
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 2: Let's keep it going. And I think, you know, this

1350
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 2: is a great opportunity for them to go out there

1351
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,439
Speaker 2: against the Packers and keep things rolling. But big game.

1352
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 2: It's a fun division. You know, looking at the standings,

1353
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 2: there aren't a lot of like four and seven teams,

1354
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 2: five and five teams. It's all like teams that are

1355
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 2: really competitive or not competitive at all. And I think

1356
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 2: that's why we have these crazy wild card chases where

1357
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 2: even Carolina is interesting at six and five in the

1358
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 2: nine seed. Right now, well, Tampa loses last night, now

1359
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 2: that division's kind of up for grabs.

1360
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 3: So yeah, but Baker Mayfield out for we don't we

1361
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:55,479
Speaker 3: don't know. I mean he was banged up his arms

1362
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 3: in a sling at the end of the game, right,

1363
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 3: I mean, with all due respect to Teddy Bridgewater, I

1364
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 3: don't think the Bucks win a bunch of games with

1365
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 3: him at quarterbacks. So yeah, and again this is Monday morning,

1366
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 3: So like the Panthers are playing the forty nine ers tonight.

1367
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 3: That game is obviously going to be huge, and it'll

1368
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 3: change the way the playoff picture looks. If somehow the

1369
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 3: Panthers come up with a win there, then suddenly they're

1370
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 3: in first place in the NFC South.

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01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 2: It's nuts. I mean, we were talking about Tampa Bay

1372
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 2: three weeks ago like they were a team that was

1373
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 2: going to be in the NFC Championship Game, and now,

1374
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 2: I mean that does not look very realistic with their

1375
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 2: current situation. So that's why the NFL is the best.

1376
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 2: It's constantly changing. We react to what happened yesterday and

1377
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 2: it could all be different by two weeks from now.

1378
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 2: As long as the Chiefs keep winning, I'll be happy

1379
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 2: no matter what else happens.

1380
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 3: Right a reminder, this is our Thanksgiving addition, it's time

1381
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 3: for our final thought, and my final thought just revolves

1382
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 3: around the world around the word grateful. I am grateful

1383
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 3: to you, Matt, our friendship that blossom during your first

1384
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 3: year doing the Chiefs preseason, and you know, all these

1385
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 3: years later we become good friends. One of my favorite

1386
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 3: people to text on Sunday. I love your sports knowledge.

1387
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 3: I just love talking NFL with you. I'm super grateful

1388
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 3: to the Chiefs Kingdom for welcoming an outsider. I remember

1389
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 3: when I first got the job back in twenty nineteen

1390
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 3: and I thought, you know, here's this guy. I have

1391
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 3: no real ties to Kansas City. Will they accept me?

1392
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 3: How will I eventually, you know, sort of you know,

1393
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 3: become a part of the Kingdom. And I'm proud to

1394
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 3: say here in twenty twenty five that you know, I

1395
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 3: only feel a part of it. You know, it runs

1396
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 3: deep in me now, and so I'm grateful to the

1397
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 3: Hunt family. I'm grateful for President Mark Donovan. I mean,

1398
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 3: he's the one who helps skids me in the door.

1399
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 3: Rob Alberino wasn't there when I first came, and I think,

1400
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 3: you know, and the chiefs knowing that we have a

1401
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 3: really special friendship. He's the one who has allowed me

1402
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,919
Speaker 3: to join this podcast and be a part of It's

1403
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 3: a huge thanks to him. And you know, for me,

1404
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 3: one of the most important things I'm grateful for it

1405
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 3: is Andy Reid. This summer, when I first saw Andy

1406
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 3: a training camp, I reminded him that our first training

1407
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 3: camp together was in two thousand and five, so it

1408
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 3: was twenty years that I've known Andy and gotten a

1409
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 3: chance to be around him and the effect he's had

1410
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 3: on me as a person is far greater than any

1411
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 3: effect I've had on the preseason games. Andy is one

1412
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 3: of the most special people I've ever known. He instills

1413
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 3: the belief in yourself. You don't even know what he's

1414
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,439
Speaker 3: doing while he's doing it, but he makes you into

1415
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 3: a better person in everything you do. And he has

1416
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 3: touched my life in many ways, and he's someone I'm

1417
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,439
Speaker 3: just so proud to have a relationship with. And all

1418
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 3: the other coaches that give us access, whether it's bags,

1419
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 3: whether it's nags, just the feeling of openness and the

1420
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 3: way that Mitch embraced me from my first training camp,

1421
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 3: allowing me to become a part of this team and

1422
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 3: learn about everyone, the access to the players, the superstars.

1423
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 3: I mean, Patrick Mahomes is the most normal Michael Jordan

1424
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 3: like person in the history of sports. Our interview with

1425
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 3: him and Travis Kelsey before one of our preseason games

1426
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 3: this year was one of the highlights of my year.

1427
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 3: I just feel so fortunate and so grateful that I

1428
01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 3: get to be a part of all this. So this Thanksgiving,

1429
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 3: I'm grateful for my family, my friends, the wonderful life

1430
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 3: I have, but wow, to be a part of the

1431
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 3: Kingdom and get a chance to talk about the Chiefs

1432
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 3: every week with you here on out West. I just

1433
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 3: feel incredibly fortunate and I am a grateful man on

1434
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 3: this holiday week see you man.

1435
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 2: That is well said, my friend. I'm grateful for you,

1436
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 2: and all of us here are grateful for you because

1437
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 2: you're the absolute best and to share this with you

1438
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 2: and this entire journey has been, you know, a blast

1439
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 2: for me. And I'm so glad that you're along for

1440
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 2: this ride with me because it wouldn't be the same

1441
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 2: if you weren't here. So very well said. You know,

1442
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 2: I have a similar final thought and it really relates

1443
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 2: to the game on Sunday, and that I'm grateful for

1444
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 2: our team. I'm grateful for our fans, and I'm grateful

1445
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 2: for how Chiefs Kingdom is a little bit unique, and

1446
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 2: that we all stay together no matter what. You kind

1447
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 2: of said this earlier and it sparked this thought that

1448
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter on Sunday, after Kareem fumbled, a

1449
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 2: lot of fan bases would be booing, a lot of

1450
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 2: fans would be leaving, a lot of players in the

1451
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 2: sideline would be screaming at each other, throwing things, upset

1452
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 2: that they're not getting their numbers, that that's the reason

1453
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 2: why the team is losing. There was none of that.

1454
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 2: And this might sound kind of ridiculous, but I really

1455
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 2: mean this, that this team and how they perform, what

1456
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 2: they do for our city and our community and this

1457
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 2: fan base, it means a lot to me, and it

1458
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 2: means a lot to you, And it means a lot

1459
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 2: to Mitch and everyone in this building. To see everyone

1460
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 2: on the same page in that same kind of mindset

1461
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 2: is cool, because yeah, it means a lot to me.

1462
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 2: It also means a lot to Travis Kelcey, and it

1463
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 2: means a lot to Kareem Hunt, and it means a

1464
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 2: lot to whatever fam was in the three hundred section

1465
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 2: on Sunday. It means a lot to all of us.

1466
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 2: And just because things go poorly doesn't mean we give up,

1467
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 2: or we point fingers or we say it's not our

1468
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 2: year and it's someone else's fault. We all come together

1469
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 2: and say what can we do to help this team win,

1470
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 2: to achieve our goals together? And for the in the

1471
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 2: three hundred section, it's screaming their head off, right even

1472
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 2: though things don't look good for me, it's trying to

1473
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 2: remain as positive as I can and trying to have

1474
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 2: discourse with you and talk about the things that I

1475
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 2: think this team can do to reach our goals. And

1476
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,639
Speaker 2: for the players, obviously, it's going out there and believing

1477
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 2: and trusting in each other. And I just think it's

1478
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:21,640
Speaker 2: really cool that we're part of a team and a

1479
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 2: culture that we all stay together no matter what, because

1480
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 2: that is unique in sports. I just think that so

1481
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 2: many teams and fan bases and players and whatever, and

1482
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 2: that moment on Sunday would have fallen apart and that

1483
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 2: would be it, and the Chiefs didn't. And I think

1484
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 2: that's pretty cool. The Super Bowls and the AF two championships,

1485
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 2: that's all awesome, but it's moments like that that I

1486
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 2: think really matter and propel you to those heights. So anyway,

1487
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 2: that's my final thought for today. I'm grateful for what

1488
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 2: we have here.

1489
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 3: It's awesome. And let me tag that just if you

1490
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 3: we recall last week I ended the podcast sort of

1491
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 3: begging the fan base Chiefs Kingdom to enjoy the process,

1492
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 3: to embrace the to you know, really the true meaning

1493
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 3: of being a fan is to be all in no

1494
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 3: matter what. We what they did in the fourth quarter.

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01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 3: Apparently they didn't need me to tell them anything because

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01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 3: they literally lived that and showed it and demonstrated their

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01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 3: their love for the franchise. Because I'm telling you most

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01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,639
Speaker 3: most stadiums you'd be hearing a lot of booze. Instead,

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01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 3: they rallied up that defense, they rallied for a win,

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01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 3: and I think really changed the season. So I could

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01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 3: go on and on, but let me tell you something, Matt,

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01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 3: this is a great addition of out West. Tons of fun.

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01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 3: Have a safe trip to Dallas, go get that win,

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01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 3: and then enjoy that turkey and happy Thanksgiving to everybody.

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Speaker 1: So thanks to Ari undercover again around the league.

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01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he sure is. One thing we talked about though,

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01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 2: is how awesome the crowd was on Sunday. I'm sure

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01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 2: you could feel it. So I thought it was so

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01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 2: cool that after Kareem fumbled in the red zone, that

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01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 2: felt like a crossroads moment right where it could be

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01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,640
Speaker 2: the end of the game, like the best offense in

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01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 2: football and I'll come back out onto the field. They're

1513
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 2: up two touchdowns. They're just gonna put this thing away

1514
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:08,759
Speaker 2: or everybody can collectively not give up. And it felt

1515
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 2: like that was the loudest. It's been the entire game.

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01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 2: And it's one thing for the crowd to get loud

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01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 2: when someone has a big play or something good is happening,

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01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 2: but for the crowd to be like, you know what,

1519
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 2: they need us right now, they need us right now,

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01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 2: Let's get loud, let's support our team. The defense fed

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01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 2: off that energy is pretty obvious. And I think without

1522
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 2: the crowd doing what they did, who knows what happens.

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01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 2: But could you feel that in the booth.

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01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,679
Speaker 1: Such a good point and the fact that and Chiefs

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01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 1: fans are different in that way. They want to come

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01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 1: to a game to influence the game, not entertain me.

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01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 1: You know, I'll sip on a drink un let's have

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01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 1: a good time, and we'll leave early with five minutes

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01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 1: to go so we don't have traffic. Now. Most of

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01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: the Chiefs fans come to influence the game. And it's

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01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 1: a really good point that you bring up. But the

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01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:56,680
Speaker 1: coach even called out Chris Jones positively because Chris kind

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01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 1: of help exhort that crowd. Yeah, and when that first

1534
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 1: down play, I said, if the season turns around, I'll

1535
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 1: look back at that moment. I'm glad you brought it up,

1536
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 1: but we run blits them and Tranquill hits him, and

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01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 1: so now they lose yardage on the first down play.

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01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 1: Now the crowd's going berserk. Chris Jones is getting them

1539
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,759
Speaker 1: all going. It's a three and out. You get it back.

1540
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 1: You basically get your fumble back in a way, and

1541
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 1: the game entirely changed, and maybe the season changes.

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01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really cool for everyone just to collectively say,

1543
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 2: you know what this ends now, Like, we're tired of

1544
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 2: these shenanigans. We're going to find a way to win

1545
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 2: this game. And the Colts were never the same from

1546
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 2: that point on. I mean they were moving the ball

1547
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 2: right down the field and then all of a sudden

1548
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 2: they couldn't do anything. They had thirteen net yards in

1549
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 2: their final four possessions. The Colts offense had thirteen three

1550
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:45,639
Speaker 2: and outs all season. They had five against the Chiefs,

1551
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 2: including four in a row when it mattered most. It's

1552
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 2: pretty cool, and I think the crowd played a big

1553
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 2: part in that.

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01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, twelve plays, thirteen yards. We'll close this way. The

1555
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 1: Cowboys special teams are very good. Brandon Aubrey is a

1556
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 1: machine as a kicker. He's in field goal range when

1557
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 1: he walks out of the hotel. Yes, you just think

1558
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 1: if he lines up for sixty, you're going this is good.

1559
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 1: I mean, did you have any doubt? Yesterday's an't going

1560
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 1: to like bang that home. I know that he had

1561
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:08,799
Speaker 1: a miss.

1562
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 2: Like it's whoa, but everyone freaks out when he misses.

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01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, he missed, and his range is nuts. He's been

1564
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:17,719
Speaker 1: arguably the best kicker in this league over the past

1565
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: couple of seasons. So that is another weapon that the

1566
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: Cowboys have coming into this game. But we laid it

1567
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:26,679
Speaker 1: out there now. If Brian Cook gets a pick six

1568
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 1: in this game, we may be onto something with that.

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01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 1: We might predictions kidding, So then the following week you

1570
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 1: may have to have fifty nine around the world because then,

1571
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:36,719
Speaker 1: like Cooper McDonald can have a block punt.

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01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 2: You'd love that, you go berserk on the air. Can

1573
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 2: I say one thing though, that I.

1574
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 1: Want a special team's exciting big play, but so close.

1575
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 2: It almost happened against the Colts too, We almost had

1576
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 2: a block.

1577
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 1: Yes.

1578
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 2: I think one thing for the Chiefs in this game, though,

1579
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 2: that we haven't talked about yet, is we've got to

1580
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 2: finish in the red zone. And that has to do

1581
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 2: with your your comments about Aubrey, because we can't let

1582
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 2: this game come down to an Aubrey field goal. Like

1583
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 2: the Chiefs go one for six in the zone against

1584
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 2: the Colts. It's kind of funny. The Chiefs actually dominated

1585
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 2: the Colts. The Chiefs gave the Colts. They basically spotted

1586
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 2: them a touchdown, turning the ball over inside the five

1587
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 2: yard line. We had a touchdown off the board because

1588
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,640
Speaker 2: of a penalty, and we had to fumble in the

1589
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 2: red zone. Overall, one for six in the red zone.

1590
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 2: Now one of those was the setting up the field

1591
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 2: goal at the end, doesn't really count. We weren't trying

1592
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 2: to score a touchdown there. But one for five in

1593
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 2: the red zone. You got to be better in the

1594
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 2: red zone. If we're pristine in the red zone against

1595
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 2: the Cowboys this week, you're hopefully taking Aubrey out of

1596
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 2: the game. He's not going to be able to go

1597
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 2: out there and win it for him. Knock on wood.

1598
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 2: I don't want to jinx this, but overall, finish in

1599
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 2: the red zone against the Cowboys. That's kind of my

1600
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 2: number one thing I think going into this game.

1601
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 1: And to your point, another good point by Matt McMullen,

1602
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 1: but I'm going to stretch it a little further. Okay,

1603
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have five red zone giveaways. Okay, they lead

1604
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 1: the league. What would their season look like without the

1605
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 1: But who's next? The Chiefs have four m Think about

1606
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 1: the pass off the hands of Kel's Eagles, the pick

1607
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 1: six of ninety nine yards Jaguars, the red zone pick

1608
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 1: by McMillan against the Broncos. And we got by with

1609
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 1: it yesterday with the fumble by Hunt. So red zones

1610
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:14,639
Speaker 1: imperative to be there. But man, oh man, Thanksgiving, Chiefs,

1611
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 1: short week, going to Dallas, and there are so many

1612
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 1: layers to this game.