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The Pennsylvania Turnpike moves 20 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: along very well. At eighty five ninety miles an hour 21 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: as you kind of do that speed trying not to 22 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 2: get run over, because that's the way it is. And 23 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: we're here doing radio today in a remote location, hidden 24 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 2: and unknown to everyone, including the government. So maybe this 25 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: will be the future, Tom, We'll do government underground radio. 26 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 2: But I had an experience this week that I wanted 27 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 2: to talk about, and it's funny how we all try 28 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: to go about communicating. I had to get a radio repaired, 29 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: the Thunderbird. The CD player died, so I had to 30 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: get the CD player repaired, and I took it into 31 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: the repair center, and you know, I went to pick 32 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: it up on Thursday, Friday, whatever day it was, and 33 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: Mary at the counter started talking to me, and we 34 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: started chatting, and she said, oh, you're a mechanic, and 35 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: I said, yeah, I'm getting ready to walk out the door. 36 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: My radio was coming around the corner and she's asking me, 37 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: you know, all sorts of questions, and you know, one 38 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 2: of the questions was are you any good? I don't 39 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: know how to answer that question anytime anybody asks me, 40 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: am I a good mechanic? Because I I just I 41 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 2: don't know how anybody would answer that. I told her 42 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: I was terrible. I said, I'm a bad mechanic. I 43 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 2: just kind of I just kind of cheat and do 44 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: the best I can. And she said wow. She said 45 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: you don't have a great opinion of yourself and I said, well, no, 46 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: not really. I said, it's just that usually the next 47 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 2: question is are you honest? And I said this way, 48 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: I figured, if I tell you I was a bad mechanic, 49 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 2: you wouldn't ask me if I was honest. I would 50 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: avoid the second question because you would know that who 51 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: would in the right mind would say they're a bad 52 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 2: mechanic if they weren't. And she's like, oh, she goes, well, 53 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: and she was confused. So I gave her my name 54 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: and I said google my name. She googled my name 55 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 2: and she went, oh, wow, you're the car doctor. She said, 56 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: And this is the part that I don't understand, because 57 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: you were kind of half kidding around having this conversation. 58 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: And she said, because you're a celebrity, are you expensive? 59 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 2: And I was walking out the door because my radio 60 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: had just shown up, and I said, you know, it's 61 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: not a matter of if I'm expensive or not. I'm 62 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: going to fix it, right, And isn't that really what counts. 63 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 2: Isn't that what you're looking for? Why weren't you with 64 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: your last mechanic? Or why aren't you there anymore? And 65 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 2: she didn't have an answer for that doesn't matter who 66 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: works on your car. In a sense, you know, why 67 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: are you there? And I think you have to answer 68 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: that question first time because everybody always says, or a 69 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: lot of people always say they're looking for a new mechanic. Well, 70 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: why are you looking for a new mechanic? What is 71 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: it that you're looking for? And you know, if you 72 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: and we have this conversation a lot, you and I 73 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: and we talk about this and we say, is it price? 74 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: Is it punctuality? Is it honesty? Is it you know, 75 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: potential or the ability? And I think it's all those things. 76 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: But somewhere they have to come up in some kind 77 00:03:59,960 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: of a stacked order. I really do. I don't think 78 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: it can be you're looking for all of it, because 79 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: it can't be. You can't be the cheapest, the fastest, 80 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: the best, you know, the most flexible. It just doesn't 81 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: work like that. There's just too many variables in the 82 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 2: automobile repair game. There's too many things. There's too many 83 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: things that have to go right in order for something 84 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 2: to be completed correctly. So I don't know if that's 85 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: the right question to ask anymore. Are you a good mechanic? 86 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: Are you an honest mechanic? I think the I think 87 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: the better answer is are you capable? And I think 88 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: that's what you need to really be talking about you 89 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: and saying to yourself, you know, is it? Is it 90 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: the ability to fix the car? I think that's where 91 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 2: you have to. 92 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 3: Kind of modify your language and be ready for that. 93 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: So but in any event, Mary went out the door 94 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 2: and you know, off she went, and it was good 95 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 2: and we kind of rolled along. So I just thought 96 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: I would share that with you and some for another. 97 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 2: I see the phones are lit up, Tom, are we 98 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: ready to go to phones here and remote? Yeah, let's 99 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: go to John in Virginia. Let's see what's going on 100 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 2: here John. Oh, no, John's not there. John's not in Virginia, 101 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: So I'm not sure what's going on there. But in 102 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: any event, going back to my story about picking a mechanic, Yeah, 103 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 2: that's that's what we got, right. It varies like that. 104 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: So had a nice ride out coming out to PA. 105 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 2: I discovered, you know, the road being a very unforgiving place, 106 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: you know, the way things just move along on the turnpike. 107 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 2: And I took the big plow truck. It was great. 108 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: The plow truck kind of went from getting it's eleven 109 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 2: twelve miles to the gallon around town to all of 110 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 2: a sudden it got twenty six miles out on the highway. 111 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: I have to take more road trips, I think, I 112 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: think that's probably the better way to do it. So 113 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 2: but uh, in any event, I think, uh, Tom is 114 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: ready for me now, and let's pull over and let's uh, 115 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: let's let's jump. Let's see if we can get a 116 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 2: phone call up Tom. We uh oh, don't take the 117 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: call yet. Okay, tell you what, Tom. Let's pull over, 118 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 2: take a pause, and uh let's do that. I'm ronning 119 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: eighty in the car doctor A five five five six 120 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 2: zero nine nine zero zero. We'll be back right after this. 121 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere. Hey, let's uh, let's go to John 122 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: and Virginia twenty hon to fit mass airflow sensor full John, 123 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: you're on with the car doctor. What can they do 124 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 2: for you? 125 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 3: Hey, I recently persis it's actually Anisson kicks. It's a 126 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 3: twenty twenty on kicks. 127 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 2: Okay, and it doesn't matter. 128 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 3: The car is a car exactly. Came up with a 129 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 3: P zero one O one. I replaced the mass airflow sensor. Uh, 130 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 3: I'm a really old scan tool. I'm unable to do 131 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: the calibration, and I was hoping that doing a drive 132 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 3: test would calibrate itself. Is that possible? 133 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: When you say calibration, what do you mean calibration? 134 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 3: I looked up on YouTube. They say you have to 135 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: do a calibration of the system. I'm assuming I don't know. 136 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: They're probably talking about that you've got to reset fuel trim. 137 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: So let's let's go back when you when you had 138 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: the old mass airflow sensor in it, or the original 139 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: mass airflow sensor in it. Did you do any testing 140 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: or did you just happen to randomly change it? 141 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 3: So, like I said, it was recently purchased. I took 142 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 3: it in a dealer. They said it wasn't under warranty, 143 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: so they said it was a mass airflowing sensor. I 144 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 3: replaced a mass airflow sensor. It went out with it 145 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: a week. I replaced it again because it was a 146 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: piezer one on one and then I had researched on 147 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 3: YouTube and it says you got to do some sort 148 00:07:58,320 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 3: of calibration. 149 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: So here's what I want you to do. Take your 150 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 2: take your scan tool. Did you you know your scan 151 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: tool reads in O B D two language? Right? I 152 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: want I want you to hook your scan tool up, 153 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: and I want you to look at calculated load, all 154 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: right as a pid okay with me? And what what 155 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: size engine is in this car? 156 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: I don't know, all right, it's my daughter's car. I 157 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: don't know, I don't all right. 158 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: So whatever it is a one point five a two liter? 159 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 2: What size? What size engine this is? And then I 160 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: want you to go for a road test warmed up, 161 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: closed loop, and I want you to look at a 162 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 2: couple of things. I want you to see what what 163 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: fuel trim is? Number one? All right? And and where's 164 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 2: fuel trim short term, short term, long term? But calculated 165 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: load is our is our key denominator there. If this 166 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: is a two liter engine at idle, we're gonna see 167 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: roughly one point eight to two and a half grams 168 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: of airflow per second or calculated load if it's really 169 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: high or really low. And then maybe I've got a 170 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: mass airflow out of calibration. Maybe that's a separate issue. 171 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 2: I could also have a torn intake duck that could 172 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: have a restricted air intake. All right, and then where 173 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: did you get the mass air Where did you get 174 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: the mass airflow sensor from. 175 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 3: Advance autom And it's exactly like the original, Well, it'll. 176 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: It'll look exactly like it, but its ability to read, 177 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 2: you know, depends on how good the electronics are internally. 178 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 3: So yeah, ultimately, you know, I just figured it out. 179 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 3: It's a one point six liter. 180 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 2: Okay, so ad idle calculated load. Looking at calculated load, 181 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: we should see one point four to one point eight 182 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: If I saw it two, Yeah, that's not so bad. 183 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: If I see three and the air intake duct is 184 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: good and there are no vacuum leaks and the rest 185 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: of the vehicle is mechanically sound, I'm gonna say you 186 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: just got another bad mass airflow. I'd be curious now 187 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: that you've got three mass airflows included. Could did you 188 00:09:58,400 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 2: turn in the original Did you have to turn it 189 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: in for a core? 190 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 3: I get, well, ye, warranty issue. 191 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: Well, no, the very first one, the original one you had, 192 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: the one that came with the car. Do you still 193 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 2: have that? 194 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 3: I do not have that. 195 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 2: Okay, so you only have the one mass airflow that's 196 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 2: in the car, correct, right? 197 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 198 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 2: See the problem is you replaced an oe part, didn't 199 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 2: do any testing, and now you've got to start the test, 200 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: but you're testing with an unknown part of unknown quality, yes, sir, right, 201 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 2: So got to do the mass airflow test. Got to 202 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: see what calculated load is. Is calculated load correct? Because if 203 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: it's correct at idle and you're still getting the fault, 204 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: then I'm going to say maybe it's another bad mass 205 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: air because it's out of range at higher end. I'd 206 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: also like to see what fuel trim is as you're 207 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 2: cruising down the road. Does it go excessively high? Does 208 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: it report excessively out of range? All right, it's kind 209 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: of odd to have three bad mass airflows? 210 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 3: All right? 211 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 2: There is There is no calibration test I'm aware of 212 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 2: other than resetting memory and fuel trim and then going 213 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: for a ride. Okay, and maybe that's what you're reading 214 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: on YouTube, but sometimes YouTube university will lead you down 215 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: the wrong path. So I would be cautious about what 216 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: you're doing there. But now at least you've got some knowledge. 217 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 2: I would go and look at that calculated load and 218 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 2: see what that does, how close or how inaccurate is it, 219 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 2: and then you can call me back next week we 220 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: can talk a little bit further about it and make 221 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: some better decisions. 222 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 3: All right, Well, yes, sir, thank you very much. Calculated 223 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 3: load and. 224 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 2: Fuel trims, right, yep, absolutely all. 225 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 3: Right, John, Yes, thank you so much. 226 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: You're very welcome. Yeah. Again, I hate the idea of just, 227 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 2: you know, blind changing apart. Let's do an email for mal. Hey, Ron, 228 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: I own a twenty twenty four Toyota Highlander. What reckoon 229 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: undas would you make for fluid changes another maintenance item? 230 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 2: The engine is a two point five liter with a supercharger. 231 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 2: I believe Toyota's recommendations are too long if I want 232 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: to keep the car for more than ten years. Current 233 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 2: mileages twenty four thousand. Thanks Al, you know, Al, I agree. 234 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 2: I'm not crazy about manufacturers, you know, fluid changes and 235 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 2: maintenance lists, and especially a supercharger. Turbo charger, I think 236 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 2: is what you're trying to say. You know, they work harder, 237 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: they work real hard. They build a lot of engine 238 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: hood underhood engine heat, and I think you really want 239 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 2: to take a look at all the fluids. A big 240 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: fan of oil changes every five thousand miles. I think 241 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 2: it's an absolute must. I think it's something you just 242 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: need to do. You know, I disagree completely with the 243 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: ten thousand mile oil change interval. As you will know, 244 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 2: a good quality filter absolutely trans fluid at fifty, translate 245 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 2: between fifty and sixty dress to the drive line fluids, 246 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 2: you know, rear dif front diff the front transfer case 247 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 2: if we want to call it that, or the power 248 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 2: takeoff unit on that particular car has less than a 249 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 2: quart of fluid in it and you can't imagine the 250 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: abuse that it's taking in terms of heat and power distribution. 251 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: And they just put such a small unit in there, 252 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 2: and they have for the longest time that you know, 253 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 2: all the drive line fluids at fifty. I like coolant 254 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 2: at five years. I think that's mandatory. I think fuel 255 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: system cleaning at thirty where you're going to hook up 256 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: the physical machine and clean the rail and you know, 257 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: perhaps a kit from c RC to do a fuel 258 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: system cleaning to make sure because that should be a 259 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 2: direct injection engine and in all likelihood that is a 260 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: port and direct injection engine. So doing a fuel system 261 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: cleaner at every oil change, a drop or you know, 262 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 2: a dropman into the tank. I think that's you know, 263 00:13:55,160 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: I think that's mandatory as well. You know, as complicated 264 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 2: it is the cars are getting, it still comes back 265 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: to maintenance and fluids and the things you're talking about, 266 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: and if you want to keep the car five years, 267 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 2: ten years, or somewhere in between or beyond, it comes 268 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: back to fluids being being the vital part, you know, 269 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 2: of keeping the car and getting it there, and it's 270 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: it's just so gosh darn important. But just just stay 271 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 2: with the fluids. Like I said, Alan, I think you'll 272 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: see that. You'll you'll get that that result. So let's 273 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: do another piece of where are we hey, Ron? This 274 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: one comes to us from Robert. Robert's got a seventy 275 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: and pallid with a three fifty two barrel. Sometimes it's 276 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: as if I can't knock off the choke. There's an 277 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: electric solenoid that bumps the linkage raising the idol. It's 278 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: not the choke that's on the power steering manifold coming 279 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: off on the top of the manifold. Passenger side coming 280 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: off on the top of the manifold. No matter how 281 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 2: long I let it idle, this salonid doesn't at least 282 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 2: the linkage. This car doesn't have and never had AC. 283 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 2: What is this and what's it for and what's it called? 284 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: So I can replace it that's actually there on a 285 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 2: non AC car in nineteen seventy Robert, because what they 286 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: did was that's supposed to close the throttle, all right. 287 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: The idea was that it would close the throttle and 288 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 2: prevent the car from doing run on that. You know, 289 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: this is back back when gasoline octane ratings were changing 290 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 2: and we were changing the quality of fuel and cars experienced, 291 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: you know, dieseling and pre ignition, detonation, a variety of 292 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: gasoline performance issues, and they figured out that if they 293 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: closed the throttle plate, they would shut off the air 294 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: supply and cause the engine to shut off quickly if 295 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: it was having any of those issues when you turn 296 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 2: off the key. I don't know that you need that anymore, 297 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 2: because obviously gasoline's changed a few times in the past 298 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: sixty years, fifty years. And I would set this up 299 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 2: on the base idle, screw off the carburetor itself, and 300 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 2: then use that as a slight bump up, and I 301 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: would play with it and adjust it. It's something that 302 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: was there as an emission control back in the day, 303 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 2: and I don't know that it's mandatory anymore. You know, 304 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: it was just it was just an idol of solenoid, 305 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 2: is what it's called now. If this was an AC 306 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 2: car that was there that was designed to bump out 307 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 2: when you turn the AC on, it provided additional RPM 308 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: for the engine when it was under the load of 309 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: air conditioning. So, you know, a completely different story. But 310 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: this is a very mechanical car. This is a question 311 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: of you know, can you make it run okay? Just 312 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: on base idle. Screw that back the base idle, screw 313 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 2: off a touch, use that idle up to allow the 314 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 2: throttle plate to close more when you release it, and 315 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: then it'll have its curve idyl and it's bump up 316 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: idle if you want to think of it like that. 317 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: But you know, that's all you need, and that that 318 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: solenoid is probably not available too much at Orto Parts 319 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: store anymore. Uh. It was just a it was just 320 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 2: an idol of solenoid, single wire mounted on the on 321 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 2: the side of the carb You'd probably find it online 322 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 2: at some of the uh, you know, carburetor rebuilders and 323 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 2: some of the vintage car places. UH you know, I 324 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: would look in some of the catalogs for Chevell or 325 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 2: Camaro because they have it as well. So, uh, you know, 326 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 2: it's a it's a it's a fairly common item across 327 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 2: the board for general motors products of that era and 328 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 2: that vintage. All right, so all right, let's uh, let's 329 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,479 Speaker 2: pull over eight five five five six zero nine nine 330 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 2: zero zero. I'm running indy in the car. Doctor. I'll 331 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 2: be back right after this. Hey, we're back eight five 332 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 2: five five six zero nine nine zero zero. Let's go 333 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 2: to tom at Utah two, Toyota Sequoia. What's going on, Tom? 334 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 4: Well, I engage the four wheel drive below, and then 335 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 4: when I went to this is a short story. When 336 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 4: I went to disengage it, it appears that it's partially disengage. 337 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 4: It allow allows me to reach speeds, but when I 338 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 4: turn you can tell that the front wheels are still engaged. 339 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 4: I have an indicator, you know, I have an indicator 340 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 4: on the dash that you know shows the four wheels 341 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 4: and usually when it's in four wheel drive, those are 342 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 4: all green. Those have turned off, but there's an orange 343 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 4: dot in the middle of that that stays on. In fact, 344 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 4: it's blinking I'm hoping maybe there's some type of vacuum 345 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 4: issue or you know, something that's maybe not an entire rebuild. 346 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, it sounds like it sounds like the 347 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 2: front axle is partially engaged. High mileage on this unit, Yes, sir. 348 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 2: You know, have you tried backing up with the unit 349 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 2: in two wheel drive to see if it releases? 350 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: I have. 351 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 4: I've tried backing up when I disengage, and we were 352 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 4: tried it doing it a neutral right, moving forward and 353 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 4: backing up, you know, those different things, because in the 354 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 4: past that has worked, but this doesn't happen very often. 355 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 4: But now now that it's happened, I've been able to 356 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 4: get it out in the past, but now it's happened, 357 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 4: it won't release. It won't release, that's correct. 358 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 2: Have you have you looked at the fluid on the 359 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 2: front dip or the transfer case at all? 360 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 4: I have, not just. 361 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 2: Just just fluid level or does either one of those 362 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 2: show metal particulate not to say the ugly word. 363 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 4: Amen, Yeah, you know? 364 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 2: Is it? Is it? You know? What are we chewing up? 365 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: Because if you continue to drive this, you're going to 366 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 2: break something even more if that's possible, and that's and 367 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 2: that's a concern. You know, even if you pulled the 368 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 2: front drive shift, something's locked on. And you know, in 369 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 2: a case of this, I don't even know if I 370 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: would tell you to start disengaging if there's vacuum controls 371 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 2: to try and manually shifted, because it just sounds like 372 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 2: something's broken and it really should get fixed, because you 373 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: can't count on it. You can't trust on it that 374 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: it's going to release if you ever had to put 375 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 2: it back in in the future. 376 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, it's only it's only low, it's not high. 377 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 2: Right. Have you tried shifting in into four wheel drive high? 378 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 4: Yes? 379 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it won't and it won't go. 380 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, it won't release. I mean it goes, it 381 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 4: won't release. 382 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 3: It's right. 383 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 4: You can't tell that it's in low until you make 384 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 4: a sharp turn and know how it grabs when you 385 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 4: make a turn. 386 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it hops, right, it hops, And it sounds like 387 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 2: the front DIF is locked on. So you know there's 388 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: an actuator there that if you were to remove it, 389 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 2: you might be able to get the piston to slide 390 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 2: out and release it. But then the problem is does 391 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,959 Speaker 2: it happen again? And if it you know if if 392 00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: In other words, what I'm saying is, if you can't 393 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 2: trust it to use it, then take it apart and 394 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 2: fix it, right, Yeah, you know, as much as you 395 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 2: don't want to do it, because you're probably gonna tell 396 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: me there's three hundred thousand miles on this thing. 397 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:12,719 Speaker 4: They had two sixty. 398 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, isn't isn't Isn't this a case 399 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: where if you're going to keep the truck, you might 400 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 2: as well find out now what's bad before you really do. 401 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 2: If it's possible more serious damage and it's gonna cost 402 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 2: you more money for sure. Yeah, you know, I don't 403 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 2: think I would drive this at all or much longer, Tom, 404 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 2: because you're only chewing something up. Okay, Well, I'm almost yeah, 405 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 2: I'm almost certain you're gonna go check front diff fluid 406 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 2: and take a magnet and fish it down around on 407 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 2: the bottom and you're gonna come up with shavings. But 408 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 2: it sounds like it sounds like the front diff is 409 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 2: locked on, and you know, maybe you pull the front 410 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 2: drive shift to put the transfer case in neutral. If 411 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: the transfer case spins, then you know the transfer case 412 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: is okay, and then your problems in the front diff 413 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 2: and break it down that way, and you know, at 414 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,719 Speaker 2: least you know then what you've got to take apart? 415 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 2: You know, do you have an actuator that's stuck on 416 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 2: in the front u t A. Yeah, take a look 417 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 2: at the way the system actuates up in the front. 418 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: Is the actuator not releasing? And if you were to 419 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 2: disassemble that, does that allow it to release? And it's 420 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 2: maybe it's more of a control thing than the actual 421 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 2: diff itself. 422 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I'm following. 423 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: You right, got to take something apart, my friend. I 424 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 2: know you don't want to do it. I know that's 425 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 2: why you called me. There's no magic bullet for this one. 426 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 2: It sounds mechanical. 427 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was hoping maybe you had some vacuum secret, 428 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 4: but I don't think we do. 429 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 2: No, I don't think you do. I think you've tried 430 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 2: them all, you know. Like I say, you may find 431 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 2: an actuator that's stuck on. But in the meantime, how 432 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 2: much have you driven it at this mileage? Have you 433 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 2: heard anything? At the very least, you owe it. You 434 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 2: youoe it a check of the fluid and fluid level, 435 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 2: fluid condition, that kind of thing. 436 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 4: So yeah, I may may have only driven it ten 437 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 4: miles just trying to you know, do different reverse type things. 438 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 4: But I haven't driven it much, so. 439 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: That's probably good. Yep. So listen, it won't matter how 440 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 2: much you've driven it. The answer is going to be 441 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 2: how much how much will it tolerate at this age 442 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: in mileage? 443 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 4: So that's true, Yes, take. 444 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: It up, take it apart. It's worth keeping. 445 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree. 446 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,719 Speaker 4: It's been a good ride for all of us too. 447 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, you know it's it's to go and replace it. 448 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,719 Speaker 2: Now when you look at the price of a new one, 449 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, overhauling every drive line component in 450 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 2: the truck looks like a bargain. 451 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 4: Amen. Yeah, so yeah, this one probably is around ninety 452 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 4: to one hundred thousand new. 453 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 2: So right, oh, yeah, you know everything is so it's 454 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 2: it's you know, it's not a question of what what 455 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 2: should what should you do? It's a question of how 456 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 2: much should you do? Yes, you know, and do it 457 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 2: once and get it over with. 458 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 4: So all right, Kittle, enjoy your show. Thank you for 459 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 4: all you do. 460 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 2: You're very welcome, sir. I appreciate you being there today. 461 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 2: You'd be well, yeah, it just kind of comes down 462 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 2: to can we can we fix it? And you know, 463 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 2: on the other side of it, Tom, if you're still listening, 464 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 2: fix it now. We can still get parts for it 465 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: because it's twenty three years old and uh, you know, 466 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: drive it another twenty years. Eighty five five six zero 467 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 2: nine nine zero zero. Run an inning in the car. Doctor. 468 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 2: Let's pull over and take a pause. I'll be back 469 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 2: right after this, and we're back eight five five five 470 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 2: six zero nine nine zero zero on an inning in 471 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 2: the car doctor. Let's let's go to Joe and Iowa 472 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 2: two Dodge pick up. Joe. Welcome to the car doctor, Sir, 473 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 2: How can I help? 474 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely, Fellows. Hey, so my kid, I got a 475 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 5: couple of things I want to ask you about. Sure, 476 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 5: one of my kids, one of my kids got it. Yeah, 477 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 5: the two thousand and two Dodge. It's thirty five hundred, 478 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 5: it's got the comings diesel engine. And he tried to 479 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 5: start the other day. It sits for quite a while. 480 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 5: The batteries were dead. So he went on got two 481 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 5: brand new batteries. He stuck them in and he went 482 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 5: and started, I don't remember, in a few days or something, 483 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 5: and he couldn't get it started. The batteries were dead. 484 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 5: He checked it with volt meter and they were pretty 485 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 5: much dead. So I took a look at it, just glanced, 486 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 5: and then I seen, well, looked like he might have 487 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 5: left the light on in the cab. So I shut 488 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 5: that switch on, the rotary switch. I shut that off, thinking, well, 489 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 5: you know that must been the problem. You know, pull 490 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 5: the batteries down, and it does have two batteries, and 491 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 5: then so I charged them, looked at it. The next 492 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 5: day they were about down to less than of vold. 493 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 5: So I said, well, that's interesting, what what else going on? 494 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 5: So then I checked the radio and the radio switch 495 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 5: was on that there was no volume coming out of it. Well, 496 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 5: maybe by chance, maybe the radio pulled down. I didn't 497 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 5: think the radio would have any voltages going to it 498 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 5: with the key out of ignition. But it shouldn't never, Yeah, okay, 499 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 5: it shouldn't. Okay, that's interesting. So so I went ahead 500 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 5: and shut the radio off rotary doll radio and I 501 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,239 Speaker 5: shut it off in charge batteries again. The next day 502 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 5: the battery stayed. I never could get a full twelve 503 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 5: twelve and a half votes on the batteries charge. 504 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 2: First of all, what are you charging the batteries with 505 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 2: a trickle charger. 506 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 5: You know, at that time, I had a charger that 507 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 5: was putting out at six am. Charger. 508 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 2: Okay, you really you really need to charge to correctly 509 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 2: charge a battery such as what's required for that Commings diesel, 510 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 2: You're really gonna need a professional grade repair shop charger, 511 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 2: all right, and you should be. You know, are you 512 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 2: disconnecting the battery cables when you're charging? 513 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 5: No, I left them hooked up and I charged them together. 514 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 2: No, disconnect them and charge them individually, or go buy 515 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 2: a real charger, all right, because it'll it'll take it'll 516 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 2: take too long. Besides the fact that if you leave 517 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 2: it hooked up and there's a draw in the vehicle, 518 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 2: you're pulling against the charger. 519 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, I figure that too, all right. 520 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, the first step is you've got 521 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 2: to get the charge. You've got to get the batteries 522 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 2: up the correct level. It may not happen overnight with 523 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 2: a with a low AM charger like that, all right. 524 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 2: It may take a couple of days for each battery. 525 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 2: Oh and then once. 526 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, at what rate amperings rate where you talk, 527 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 5: and it might take that. 528 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 2: Well, you know we're in if we're if we're in 529 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 2: the shop, I'm rolling it over to the automatic charger 530 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 2: and it's it's gonna set the charge rate based on 531 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 2: the internal resistance value of the battery in its capacity. 532 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 2: That's why I'm saying six samps. Six samps is such 533 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 2: is on such a low scale. You know, the professional 534 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 2: grade chargers will run anywhere from twenty to thirty five 535 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 2: amps in these batteries today to bring them up to speed, 536 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 2: and then it will it will, you know, tailor it 537 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 2: down as they get closer to the top of their charge. 538 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 2: So you're you're trying to empty the ocean with a 539 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 2: tea spoon. Okay, it's gonna take It's gonna take a while, 540 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 2: all right, So you know that's that's number one. Number two. 541 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 2: Once you get the batteries up to charge. Do you 542 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: have a d v O M, a digital volteme meter 543 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 2: or something with a milliamp scale or an amp scale 544 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:36,719 Speaker 2: in it? 545 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I got an I got an vote meter. 546 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 2: Okay, so let's set it. Let's set it on amperage. 547 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 2: Let's set it on milliamps, and let's put the meter 548 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 2: in series. And we can do this off of one battery, 549 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 2: leave the other one disconnected. So as not to provide 550 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 2: an alternate power source and confuse things, all right, and 551 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 2: and let's just let's just measure for draw. Do we 552 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 2: have a draw in this vehicle? The rule says, the 553 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 2: rule says that you have to have less than fifty 554 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 2: milliamps in order for the vehicle to be considered okay. 555 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 5: On a draw, you need less than. 556 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 2: Less than fifty milliams, all right, And if you find 557 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: an excess of high draw, you know, if it's there 558 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 2: and it's it may take a while to you know, 559 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 2: bleed down, depending upon the amount of computers in O two. 560 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 2: Not a whole lot of computers in this thing. But 561 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 2: within a half hour to forty five minutes, we should 562 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 2: see under fifty milliamps. And if after that forty five 563 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 2: minute period we still see you know, three four seven 564 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 2: eight amps, then one at a time, we're gonna pop 565 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 2: a fuse. Just take a fuse out of start with 566 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: the underhood fuse box, and then work your way into 567 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: the interior cabin fuse box, right and one at a time, 568 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 2: take it out, put it in. Does it make any change? 569 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,479 Speaker 2: One of those fuses is going to show us a 570 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 2: circuit that's drawing mm hmm. Let me ask you this question. 571 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 2: Let me let me ask you this question. Is the 572 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 2: radio and after market radio? 573 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 3: Uh? 574 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 5: You know, I'm not for sure. I'm not for sure. 575 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Ron. 576 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, take a look at that radio? Is after market 577 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: if it looks like it was installed by the previous owner. 578 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 2: M you know, I probably start there. I see a 579 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: lot of problems with the after market radios or the 580 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 2: install that becomes an issue. 581 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, okay, I just I just didn't think there'd 582 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 5: be any voleage to it. You know, I was surprised 583 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 5: when it actually kept a pretty good charge on it 584 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 5: after the next day. But well, let me can I 585 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 5: ask you, I'll. 586 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: Tell you what sit sit tight, Sit tight? Joe, let 587 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 2: me pull over, take this pause. When I come back, 588 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 2: we'll finish up. All right, I'm running, ay and the 589 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 2: car doctor. We're back right after this. Hey, we're back 590 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 2: running any of the car doctorate by five, five, six 591 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 2: zero nine nine zero zero. Joe, you're still there, Iowa, yeah, 592 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,239 Speaker 2: still here, Yes, sir, A couple of questions. You got 593 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 2: a couple of minutes, Joe, go ahead, Okay. 594 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 5: Uh, I thought he had when he checked it this morning, 595 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 5: my kid, he said, had eleven point six to zero 596 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 5: volts on the batteries. I thought that would neede be 597 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 5: enough to crank it kind of slow, but he said 598 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 5: it wouldn't do nothing. How much schoolige, I. 599 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: Mean minute a battery is considered under voltage at twelve 600 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 2: point one. A standing twelve volt battery should have twelve 601 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:38,719 Speaker 2: and a half vaults to it. 602 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I figured about twelve and a half, right, 603 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 5: so that bottom line? Okay, okay? And I just looked 604 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 5: at my volt meter and it doesn't I got an 605 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 5: AMP A SE scale, but no AMP DC scal on it. 606 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 2: Is there a way to convert it? Or you're gonna 607 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to get something that's milliamps? Does it 608 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 2: go to milliamp? 609 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 5: In a see it goes to two hundred milliams? I 610 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 5: believe in our ten AM setting two hundred million ams. Oh, 611 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 5: there is a DC scal and I see it, so 612 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 5: I see it now, Okay, yeah, two hundred am. 613 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 2: Right, So that's what you want. You want to put 614 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: that on milliams And you're looking for a fifty milliam 615 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 2: draw or less, and I would think on an oh 616 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 2: two Dodge diesel, you're probably going to be a lot 617 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 2: less than fifty million ams. There's not a lot of 618 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 2: computer electronics on that vehicle. 619 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 5: How do you how do you hook that up for 620 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 5: to check for a draw? 621 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: You're going to disconnect the negative battery cable and put 622 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 2: the meter in series. 623 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 5: To go from the negative post to the right. 624 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, so disconnect the other battery so it's out 625 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 2: of the equation. Then you're going to just connect the 626 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 2: negative battery cable and you're going to put one lead 627 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 2: of the meter to the post and one lead of 628 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 2: the meter to the cable. 629 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 5: Okay, to the negative side. 630 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, to the negative side. I like working with the 631 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 2: negative side. Less chance of sparking something. 632 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, see just just. 633 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 2: See what it does, and then just watch your polarity. 634 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 2: If it reads negative, reverse your leads. 635 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, okay. How much time though? How much time 636 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 5: do you when you take that reading? Is it just 637 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 5: incontinued forty five? 638 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 2: Like like I said t before, Joe, half hour to 639 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 2: forty five minutes, you should see it drop off under 640 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 2: fifty milliamps. Again, depending upon the amount of computers on 641 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,719 Speaker 2: that truck. An hour is the maximum. But you know 642 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 2: that thirty to forty five minutes should do it, and 643 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 2: I would start with looking at this radio. If you 644 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 2: suspect that, maybe take that fuse out first and see 645 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 2: where you go. Appreciate the call, Joe. I'm here next 646 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 2: week if you need me. I'm running ady in the car. Doctor. 647 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 2: It's been a pleasure till the next time. Good mechanics 648 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 2: aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you