Speaker 1: Look out. It's only films to be buried with, and
Speaker 1: we are back. Baby, Hello and welcome to Films to
Speaker 1: be buried with. My name is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian,
Speaker 1: an actor, a writer, a director, a time traveler, and
Speaker 1: I love films. As Rick Riordon once said, knowing too
Speaker 1: much of your future is never a good thing. I
Speaker 1: would have loved Planet the Apes had someone not ruined
Speaker 1: the ending for me. I hate spoilers. Why do people
Speaker 1: do them? I don't understand it. What's they're thinking? Do
Speaker 1: they want to ruin our phone? Yeah, it's a very
Speaker 1: good point, Rick, I don't understand it. Every week and
Speaker 1: by a special guest over, I tell them they've died.
Speaker 1: Then I get them to discuss their life through the
Speaker 1: films that meant the most of them. Previous guests include
Speaker 1: Sharon Stone, Jamila Jamil, Barry Jenkins, Mark Frost, James a Castor,
Speaker 1: and even ped Blambles. But this week it is the
Speaker 1: incredible actor, writer, producer, comedian, director, creator all rounder, the
Speaker 1: amazing mister Bill Hayder. Head over to the Patreon for
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Speaker 1: So we're back, right, I mean I said I'd take
Speaker 1: a break. I took three weeks off, didn't do any resting.
Speaker 1: I worked all the time, and we are back now
Speaker 1: because my neighbor more he needs the work, and because
Speaker 1: I missed you this time, I will be doing a season.
Speaker 1: This is season two. It will be at least eight episodes,
Speaker 1: maybe more. And also for all the people who send
Speaker 1: me messages saying how much they missed the show, I
Speaker 1: missed you so. Bill Hayder is a comedian, an actor,
Speaker 1: a writer, director, an impressionist, an snla a creator and
Speaker 1: the star of Barry. I've been a huge fan of
Speaker 1: his work on S and now and in films and
Speaker 1: on TV. It was a great honor to sit with
Speaker 1: him and talk. He was fucking great and I think
Speaker 1: you're gonna love this one. So that is it for now.
Speaker 1: I very much hope you enjoy episode two hundred and
Speaker 1: two of Films to be Buried With. Hello, and welcome
Speaker 1: to Films to be Buried With. It is I Brett Goldstein,
Speaker 1: and I'm joined today by an actor, a writer, a comedia,
Speaker 1: a sketch, an inside outer, a Simpsonner, a South Parker,
Speaker 1: a skeleton twin, a creator, a show runner, a hero,
Speaker 1: a legend, and a human in his own right. Please,
Speaker 1: welcome to the show. I can't believe it's here. It's
Speaker 1: the word at Eilie. It's mister Bill Hiday. That was
Speaker 1: very sweet. Thank you, glad to be here, lovely to
Speaker 1: have you. How are you. How's it going? I'm good now.
Speaker 1: You told me just while we were setting up, but
Speaker 1: I think the listeners would want to know you are
Speaker 1: currently mid writing Barry season four. Yeah, we're writing Barry
Speaker 1: season four. That's what I was just doing before I
Speaker 1: hopped on here. So if I'm a bit tired, I apologize.
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about Barry because I think
Speaker 1: I'd forgotten until I went back and looked. You directed
Speaker 1: so many of them, so many of the episodes, including
Speaker 1: the first lot. How was it having this much control?
Speaker 1: This is the first thing you've had this much control over,
Speaker 1: I guess, is that true? You know, yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: But I think nothing is as hard as Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 1: So everything after that was quite easy. And I think
Speaker 1: that's why so many of us now have these TV shows,
Speaker 1: because it's a bit like, oh yeah, I know how
Speaker 1: to do that, you know. But the one thing I
Speaker 1: didn't know how to do and I always have wanted
Speaker 1: to do since I was very young, was direct you know.
Speaker 1: It was always making short films with friends and my
Speaker 1: sisters and things like that. So that was one thing
Speaker 1: I did I wasn't able to do on Saturday Live.
Speaker 1: And then so directing. When we pitched to HBO Barry
Speaker 1: and then you know, I said I like to direct
Speaker 1: the pilot. They kind of went huh okay, and then
Speaker 1: alec Berg thankfully said I vouched for him. He had
Speaker 1: no idea if I could do it. Or not for him.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be great. Yeah, you know, and
Speaker 1: it seems like yeah, yeah, yeah, he's like he looks
Speaker 1: like look at him. You know, he's wearing a cap
Speaker 1: and it's meeting directors caps. He must be a director.
Speaker 1: He's got a black blazer and a black T shirt
Speaker 1: with what you know, it's fine, you know, Okay, two things.
Speaker 1: One is you are not the first person i've heard
Speaker 1: say nothing's hard to then SNL. And I know how
Speaker 1: hard it is making and running a TV show. Can you,
Speaker 1: in a short way maybe explain why SNL is hard
Speaker 1: to well, just because it's you're figuring the whole show
Speaker 1: out in a week, and then it's on live television.
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's live all over the nation, so
Speaker 1: there's just a lot of pressure, and then it's constantly changing.
Speaker 1: So it's never If you're like me and you like
Speaker 1: films that you love to hone things and get them
Speaker 1: just right, and SNL that's almost impossible. You had to
Speaker 1: just kind of go out there with something that you
Speaker 1: some of it works, some of it didn't. I feel
Speaker 1: like that's why stand ups and people with a really
Speaker 1: strong in the States sketch background you know, people from
Speaker 1: Second City, or you see be or the ground lanes
Speaker 1: thrive there in a really great way because they can
Speaker 1: handle that and going like, oh, this isn't working, so
Speaker 1: what move on to the next thing. Where I would
Speaker 1: I would get pretty crushed. Even if I was, you know,
Speaker 1: customer number two in my straight line didn't land, I
Speaker 1: would be like, oh, you know, yeah, tell me this
Speaker 1: on Saturday nights. Now, this is genuine serious question. Do
Speaker 1: you get butterflies on a Saturday night. I don't get
Speaker 1: butterflies on a Saturday night, But if I hear certain songs,
Speaker 1: I will get butterflies. If I hear Train in Vain
Speaker 1: by the Clash, because that would be the warm up
Speaker 1: song right before we would go on that. If I
Speaker 1: heard Train in Vain and Keenan Thompson would sing and
Speaker 1: Fred Armison would sing it for the audience to warm
Speaker 1: up the audience. If I hear that, I do have
Speaker 1: a bit of a because that means, oh, after that
Speaker 1: song's dumb, we're live. I'm customer number two. It's like,
Speaker 1: oh no, just that, and I'm like, fascinating. Can I
Speaker 1: ask you a kind of practical question that I'm always
Speaker 1: interested in? And I don't know, and I'm sure everyone
Speaker 1: is different. When you're directing, Barry, you are also Barry.
Speaker 1: So when you are acting in a scene, do you
Speaker 1: film it then guy watched the monitor? Do you trust
Speaker 1: someone that you've got it? Do you feel you had
Speaker 1: it right? I trust somebody. I also, you know, I
Speaker 1: have you know Alec Burg there, or this guy Duffy
Speaker 1: Boudreau who I grew up with is one of my
Speaker 1: oldest friends who's a writer on the show and actually
Speaker 1: the first a d this guy Gavin Klentop was just brilliant.
Speaker 1: You know, they really get what the show is, so
Speaker 1: I can kind of go over to them. Or sometimes
Speaker 1: it's the people I'm acting with. All the other actors
Speaker 1: will be like, what do you think of that? You know,
Speaker 1: just see the work, you know, or you just had
Speaker 1: know it. But I'm also because I'm directing, I'm incredibly impatient,
Speaker 1: So I you know, I just want to keep going.
Speaker 1: And I think that you know, you you've been on sets,
Speaker 1: you know, it's you like to get that momentum going,
Speaker 1: and the momentum just crushes where they go, oh, let's
Speaker 1: go look at it, you know, and you watch it.
Speaker 1: Everybody goes you know, here I'm going to try something.
Speaker 1: I just feel like everything kind of dies down. I
Speaker 1: like to keep it. Let's go again, Let's go again,
Speaker 1: let me try this, Let me try this, and then
Speaker 1: then maybe I'll sometimes I go you should watch it
Speaker 1: because I don't know. What you're doing is pretty weird.
Speaker 1: Did it feel good? It felt good because it looks
Speaker 1: really weird. Yeah, if it felt good, then you should
Speaker 1: watch it. Amazing whatever, question if I may about the
Speaker 1: battery stuff, is your own season four, which is a
Speaker 1: lot does it live in your in your head? Like
Speaker 1: is it exciting to you that you can keep building
Speaker 1: this thing? Or is every season do you think that's
Speaker 1: it for me? Do you write it like this is it?
Speaker 1: And then you get given another season you're like, funk
Speaker 1: a whole new world. Yeah, I mean it started out that,
Speaker 1: you know, you do the first season and you go, well,
Speaker 1: maybe that's it, and you kind of have ideas, Hey,
Speaker 1: if we got a season two, this is what I'd
Speaker 1: like to do, And then we got a season two,
Speaker 1: and then during season two it was kind of you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a season three because this seems to
Speaker 1: be working. So while we're doing season two we're kind
Speaker 1: of I'm going, oh, you know, this could be in
Speaker 1: season three, that could be in season three. The weird
Speaker 1: thing about season four is that it was during the pandemic.
Speaker 1: You know that we were supposed to be shooting season
Speaker 1: three and then because of the pandemic nothing, and so
Speaker 1: we we said, well, can we write season four? And
Speaker 1: HBO said yeah, sure, they paid us to write season four,
Speaker 1: And so that helps season three because we got to
Speaker 1: go back and rewrite a bunch of stuff and and
Speaker 1: kind of some things up for what a season before
Speaker 1: would look like, Oh cool, Would you be happy to
Speaker 1: do it for many more years? Or is that no question?
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, one day, yes, another day I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I can't do this every you know, you can't. If
Speaker 1: you call me when I'm driving out to the you know,
Speaker 1: the desert at three am to get a you know,
Speaker 1: a shot at dawn or you know or whatever, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I can't do this anymore. I mean it's insane just
Speaker 1: watching you know what Jason has to take on. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's an inhumid amount of pressure. ConA O'Brien has
Speaker 1: this this analogy of the white suit, you know, you
Speaker 1: put on a white suit and people go, you know
Speaker 1: that means you know this, you have a suit on
Speaker 1: it selling it's really white and nice, and you just don't.
Speaker 1: It's like I don't want to get it dirty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and you go, oh, geez, the white suit.
Speaker 1: You know. I don't know if if if Sadika's goes
Speaker 1: through that, but I know there was a moment in
Speaker 1: writing season two of Berry that was a bit of
Speaker 1: a white suit feeling. Fuck it, let's just throwing spaghetti on.
Speaker 1: Let's just see what happened. And I'm friends with the guys,
Speaker 1: you know, hearing your eye over Atlanta, and he said, oh,
Speaker 1: we had a very similar feeling room and oh man,
Speaker 1: it's a hard thing to explain to people, the pressure
Speaker 1: that comes when the thing works, you know, and because
Speaker 1: people go, oh, that must be really hard. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: the longer the thing guy's done, the more the more
Speaker 1: you're like that whenever in the suit would come this far, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the suit has been this far. Why are you still
Speaker 1: don't get on that motorcycle and drive through puddles? What
Speaker 1: the fuck are you doing? Yeah? Yeah, Especially critics will
Speaker 1: say that, like, please stop. Now. I've done interviews with critics,
Speaker 1: so they go, please tell me this is it, and
Speaker 1: you go, oh, well, I mean we got one more.
Speaker 1: You know, are you ever able to switch you off?
Speaker 1: Or is it? Is it full time in your head?
Speaker 1: It's full time in my head. But it's that's fun,
Speaker 1: you know, It's it's never am I mean, the pressure
Speaker 1: of it definitely gets to you, you know, at times.
Speaker 1: And and I'm directing all the episodes next season, so
Speaker 1: that's another aspect of it. That's a lot, but it's
Speaker 1: but it again, it's not as hard as staring alive.
Speaker 1: And I don't know Jason would say the same thing,
Speaker 1: but it's not. Yeah, it's still not as hard as
Speaker 1: staring alive. It's like, oh, but I you know, we
Speaker 1: get to edit it, you know, Yeah, I get to
Speaker 1: go home and sleep. I get like little breaks, you know.
Speaker 1: He's never got that. Really. Oh Bill, hey Dah, I've
Speaker 1: forgotten to tell you something, and I should have told
Speaker 1: you in the beginning. Fuck, And I don't know if
Speaker 1: you in your email, I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: how much is the first time we've met. This is awkward.
Speaker 1: I'll just fucking say it and then we'll deal with it. Okay,
Speaker 1: you've died. Oh damn it. I knew someone was up
Speaker 1: such a good moves, so much sky How did you die? Well,
Speaker 1: I went skydiving, and then the parachute opened and I landed.
Speaker 1: But then I had a heart attack. I don't think
Speaker 1: it had anything to do with the skydiving. That was
Speaker 1: just a lovely activity. I feel like it was just
Speaker 1: a lovely activity, and then it was just my time.
Speaker 1: I think if I had jumped a couple of minutes later,
Speaker 1: I would have had a heart attack on the plane,
Speaker 1: right right, So when your friends and family tried to
Speaker 1: see the skydiving company, I'm gonna be a witness in court.
Speaker 1: So I actually think, just to be clear, I think,
Speaker 1: can you check his heart? Yeah? How old would you
Speaker 1: How old would you like to be when you when
Speaker 1: this happened? Oh I was eighty three. Okay, do you
Speaker 1: worry about death? Bill? Hide? You know what I used
Speaker 1: to when I was very young, And then you know,
Speaker 1: you see people close to you go and it focused
Speaker 1: me more on Oh this is all very finale, you know,
Speaker 1: So I should try to do what I want to
Speaker 1: do with every day, you know, well as in and
Speaker 1: stop worrying about the death. Bit because it stopped me
Speaker 1: getting almos shit. Yeah. Yeah, well you see people go
Speaker 1: and then you go like, oh, okay, that's where we're
Speaker 1: all headed. So you know, Snakis could probably tell you
Speaker 1: this that you know, delt closed, you know he is
Speaker 1: or was, Yeah, yeah, he was the improv king had problems, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he had. He would tell the story of the
Speaker 1: sky dancer and the sky dancer jumped out an airplane
Speaker 1: and did all these beautiful dances and pulled their parachute
Speaker 1: and the parachute didn't open. And instead of panicking, this
Speaker 1: guy dance or just kept dancing and all the way
Speaker 1: around and died. And that was the analogy of life,
Speaker 1: which is like this, we're all headed to the grounds.
Speaker 1: You might as well dance, you know, and like make
Speaker 1: something or do something or express yourself, you know. And
Speaker 1: I thought that was I thought that was nice. But
Speaker 1: I'm also from the Midwest like Jason, so we're we
Speaker 1: cry a lot. Did you ever work with doll Place, No,
Speaker 1: you know what, I think he passed away before I
Speaker 1: was even He was such a legend by the time
Speaker 1: I started doing improv. I know, I remember going into
Speaker 1: Bob Odenkirk's office and there's a picture of him and
Speaker 1: Dell Close and Chris Farley, and I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, there's Doll Close. Shit. But yeah, he's the
Speaker 1: kind of father of improv. And you know, it came
Speaker 1: up with Mike Nichols and Elaine May and all those people.
Speaker 1: If you don't mind, because I don't know how much
Speaker 1: you maybe you've talked about this, Las, but I was
Speaker 1: read enough on you and you you were obsessed with
Speaker 1: as far as I understand, correct me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: you wanted to make film when you were you were
Speaker 1: being an assistant and production assistant, and you were on
Speaker 1: the job for stuff at very low level, just trying
Speaker 1: to learn stuff. And then at some point you started
Speaker 1: doing improv. But it didn't seem like there was any
Speaker 1: comedy stuff before this. Can I ask you what made
Speaker 1: you go to the improv? Well? Was you know, like
Speaker 1: a lot of things. It was two things. One the
Speaker 1: girl I've been dating for seven years and I broke up.
Speaker 1: Say the more I got it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So we had broken up and she had moved out
Speaker 1: of Los Angeles, you know, and I you know when
Speaker 1: you go through a massive breakup, and it was my
Speaker 1: first massive breakup, the first reel like we were in love,
Speaker 1: we broke up and so and so I gotta do
Speaker 1: something different. And then my friend Eric philip Kowski and
Speaker 1: I were both pas on this reality TV show. He said, oh,
Speaker 1: do you want to come to Second City Theater and
Speaker 1: see a show that you know? My show? And then
Speaker 1: there's another show after it. And I went and saw
Speaker 1: a show. It was called Ha Ha Fresh and inn
Speaker 1: that show was a guy named Derek Waters who ended
Speaker 1: up doing Drunk History, and a guy named Simon Hildeberg
Speaker 1: who was on The Big Bang Theory and some other things.
Speaker 1: Yeah he's in a net. Yeah, he's great internet. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And they were in that show, and I was embarrassed
Speaker 1: because they were my age, you know, and they were
Speaker 1: performing and I went, well, well, I could you know,
Speaker 1: we can do that, you know, And so I was
Speaker 1: been embarrassed, and so I kind of went over to
Speaker 1: Eric and said, how do I get How do I
Speaker 1: get in on this? And he's like, you gotta take classes.
Speaker 1: So that was a winter of two thousand and three.
Speaker 1: So I went and I took classes starting to March,
Speaker 1: and that was purely just a way that to start
Speaker 1: being creative because I was trying to make short films,
Speaker 1: but you needed money and it wasn't like now or
Speaker 1: you can make stuff on your phone and stuff. It
Speaker 1: was like too expensive, and so I said, well, at
Speaker 1: least every Saturday I do something creative. So that was
Speaker 1: my creative outlet. I love that. I love it. Tell
Speaker 1: me this, what do you think happens when you die?
Speaker 1: Do you think there's enough to life? No? I think
Speaker 1: it's just a white light switch goes off. It's just
Speaker 1: complete darkness. You sky dance, you land, you have a
Speaker 1: heart attack, blackout, blackout hard, blackout, hard, blackout. Well, I
Speaker 1: got news for you, buddy boy. Heaven. You're wrong, you
Speaker 1: got it. You're not right. There's a heaven and it's
Speaker 1: brilliant and it's filled with your favorite thing. What's your
Speaker 1: favorite thing? Movies. It's filled with movies. It's like a
Speaker 1: Blockbuster video. There's iOS and iOS of movies. There are
Speaker 1: people made of celluloid, there's screening groups, there's beds filled
Speaker 1: with cans of film. Everyone it's really happy to see
Speaker 1: you and they want to talk to you about your life,
Speaker 1: but through the medium of film, and the first thing
Speaker 1: they ask you is what Bill Hayda is the first
Speaker 1: film you remember saying in the theater was Empire Strikes Back.
Speaker 1: Specifically the senior I remember was of Hans Solo falling
Speaker 1: in carbonite. The closeup of it comes into frame and
Speaker 1: you see him in carbonite, and I started crying and
Speaker 1: my dad took me out of the theater and I
Speaker 1: remember that. And then on television was a late night
Speaker 1: movie called The Children. There was a horror film, and
Speaker 1: I remember it had an image of a bunch of
Speaker 1: kids in a school bus and the school bus goes
Speaker 1: into a giant cloud like a like a big like
Speaker 1: a cloud of smoke on a street and it turns
Speaker 1: them all into zombies. But that image of the school
Speaker 1: bus going into the smoke really freaked me out again
Speaker 1: and told my parents, and I remember it was very young.
Speaker 1: And then when YouTube happened. I remember being at home
Speaker 1: and I was thinking about that just I know, and
Speaker 1: I went, I wonder what that was, and so I
Speaker 1: typed in school bus, cloud of smoke, and then this
Speaker 1: trailer for this movie came up, and there it was
Speaker 1: this image that I was maybe I had just dreamed that,
Speaker 1: you know, and there it was that image The Children.
Speaker 1: I go, this is it? This is one hundred percent
Speaker 1: what I saw, you know it. Did it scare you? No? Oh,
Speaker 1: we like, oh this looks silly. Oh yeah, that looks
Speaker 1: kind of I was like, oh wow, yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: bunch of smoke bombs going off from the middle of
Speaker 1: the street and like this the Yeah, but it's very
Speaker 1: very cheap horror film called The Children that I think
Speaker 1: I wasn't supposed to be seen. I think it was
Speaker 1: just it was on television. I wandered into a room
Speaker 1: when you saw m bus strikes back? Was that? Was
Speaker 1: that just you and your dad? Don't you with my
Speaker 1: My members are just me and my dad? Yeah, that's sweet.
Speaker 1: And he took you out because he were crying right
Speaker 1: before the end. Yeah, I was quite young, and I
Speaker 1: was very young, yeah, like three or four or something,
Speaker 1: and then he I just started freaking out and you know,
Speaker 1: and that was the first one I can remember. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He said he snuck me into other movies before that
Speaker 1: when I was a baby because they couldn't find a babysitter,
Speaker 1: so they would have me, you know, and they would
Speaker 1: be bouncing me while they were watching you know whatever.
Speaker 1: Cramer versus Cramer or whatever. Late seventies movie they were watching.
Speaker 1: What is this film that made you cry the most?
Speaker 1: You're from the Midwest, do you cry? What's the film
Speaker 1: that made you cry? It's actually a movie from Kess,
Speaker 1: the kim Loach movie Kess, Oh, Kess. The fucking Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, we haven't talked about that film for a
Speaker 1: while on this podcast. Yeahs is the maddest is the
Speaker 1: worst children's films? Such a horror film. The scene in
Speaker 1: Cash when he's in front of the class and the
Speaker 1: teachers like tell them about how you train kestrels and
Speaker 1: and I just find that so moving, how they at
Speaker 1: first or they make fun. It just feels so real,
Speaker 1: and that kid is so good and it's just so well.
Speaker 1: It's just I just find that scene of acceptance. There's
Speaker 1: nothing sentimental or syrupy about it. It just feels very real,
Speaker 1: you know, And it's just beautiful, beautiful scene. Doesn't it
Speaker 1: make you think the difference between British films and American
Speaker 1: films is children's films in America and on a positive
Speaker 1: night of British films and with the bird stuffed in
Speaker 1: a bit, is that British or is that just that region?
Speaker 1: Your sure? Birds? The fucking bid. Horrific dreams are what
Speaker 1: you wake up from the end. The message of that
Speaker 1: film should be don't fucking bother. Yeah it's a horrible film. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't train your birds around your older brother. You'll get
Speaker 1: well jealous what you're in The inside Out. Correct. We
Speaker 1: did a best Films of the Decade edition of this podcast,
Speaker 1: and I said The Inside Out was the greatest film
Speaker 1: of the of the Okay, Oh, I'm told Pete and
Speaker 1: those guys, that's nice. Yeah, I think it truly is
Speaker 1: fucking profound it maybe, I mean, we could talk about it.
Speaker 1: We'll get but you will get back to your choices.
Speaker 1: But shout out to Inside Out. I think, thank you.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'll tell Pete those guys would really appreciate
Speaker 1: at the really sweet or something. What is the film
Speaker 1: that scared you the most? You like being scared? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love I loved horror films. I still love horror films.
Speaker 1: There's the horror films like I remember watching on late
Speaker 1: night television when I was twelve or thirteen, the same
Speaker 1: Rami's Evil Dead and there's a scene in that film
Speaker 1: where this woman is looking out a window and she's
Speaker 1: guessing the cards that her friends are playing and they
Speaker 1: don't understand how she's doing it, and then she turns
Speaker 1: around her eyes or white. That scared the hell out
Speaker 1: of me. And then the irony is is that actress
Speaker 1: Ellen Sandways. Her daughter is an actress named Jesse Hodges,
Speaker 1: and she's in Barry. She plays Sally's agent. And so
Speaker 1: when I met her and we were talking, she thought
Speaker 1: my mom was in a little horror movie called Evil Dead,
Speaker 1: And I wait, who is your mom and Evil Dead?
Speaker 1: And she was like, you know, and that was her
Speaker 1: and that was that and I go, oh, my gosh,
Speaker 1: that was a profound experience in my childhood, you know,
Speaker 1: for aadolescence was seeing that film. And that film also
Speaker 1: was a film I think, I think for a lot
Speaker 1: of filmmakers was the one that kind of made you.
Speaker 1: It was like listening to punk rock music or something
Speaker 1: where you went, oh, I see how I can I
Speaker 1: see how they're doing it. It's really effective, but I
Speaker 1: think I can do this. You know, picked up your
Speaker 1: camera and you would chase your my sisters around or
Speaker 1: you would try to do all these kind of evil
Speaker 1: dead things. So yeah, I would say that. And then
Speaker 1: another scene that scared me was in the film Marathon
Speaker 1: Man with the Dustin Hoffman, there's a scene where he
Speaker 1: is in a bathtub and I don't know if you
Speaker 1: remember this scene or he's in a bathtub and he's
Speaker 1: he has a washcloth on his face and he's just
Speaker 1: kind of decompressing from all the stressful stuff that's happening
Speaker 1: to him. It's very quiet, and then very very subtly
Speaker 1: you hear people whispering, and it's done so well that
Speaker 1: you think still when I'm watching it, if I'm watching
Speaker 1: it with like other people, I kind of go, oh,
Speaker 1: someone's whispering the room, and kind of look over your shoulder.
Speaker 1: And then Dustin Hoffman goes and sits up, and you go, oh,
Speaker 1: my gosh, that's in his apartment. And then he's in
Speaker 1: the bathtub and the door is just cracked open a
Speaker 1: bit and he runs over and he when he slams
Speaker 1: the door shut, suddenly people are heading on the other
Speaker 1: side and you realize, oh, there's two men in his apartment.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Just terrifying and good, very well. I
Speaker 1: love that moment. Can I ask you an acting question.
Speaker 1: I think the two hardest things to do as an actor.
Speaker 1: One is laughing and the other is jumping scared, being startled.
Speaker 1: You've got an amazing laughing scene in a film that
Speaker 1: I really really like, Skeleton Twins really good and it
Speaker 1: seems completely genuine, And I wonder if it is a
Speaker 1: kind of captured moment where you and pissing himself laughing,
Speaker 1: or whether that was Yeah, that's Kristen and I just
Speaker 1: being good, you know, friends and thinking each other laugh
Speaker 1: and and she's improvising stuff and we're improvising together, but
Speaker 1: that's her just being She was being just saying really
Speaker 1: funny things. I think she was saying stuff about someone's
Speaker 1: name or we were just that's just real, very real, yes, yes, okay.
Speaker 1: And then doing it chapter two where you are having
Speaker 1: to be scared, is that hard as in the reality
Speaker 1: of filming? That not really, you know, because Andy Michette,
Speaker 1: who directed that movie, was very good at kind of
Speaker 1: getting you in a headspace and you know, being like
Speaker 1: all right, and he'd be on this big microphone okay,
Speaker 1: you guys are coming screaming. Okay. It was really scariness.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and then you walk in and then the area,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's really it. That sounked it for me,
Speaker 1: really good. Shout out the access What is the film
Speaker 1: that you love? It is not critically acclaimed, most people
Speaker 1: don't even like it, but you think it's amazing and
Speaker 1: you don't care what they say. Well, there's movies that
Speaker 1: I've walked out of, like after the movies ended and
Speaker 1: I go, man, that was great, and everyone else is like,
Speaker 1: what that was terrible? You know that feeling when you're
Speaker 1: the outlier. Yeah, I met that and Eyeswhite Shot was
Speaker 1: that for me. I walked out and went, that was great,
Speaker 1: and everybody went that was the most pretentious piece of shit. Really,
Speaker 1: I oh, I thought it met it really. I thought
Speaker 1: it was kind of funny, like interesting things about relationships.
Speaker 1: And and then the other one was that Jennifer Lawrence
Speaker 1: movie Mother, and we're walking out of that going that
Speaker 1: was really terrible. That was terrifying. I thought that was great.
Speaker 1: Eight and yeah, oh my god. The people I was
Speaker 1: with were so they tare a part of baby, and
Speaker 1: I go, but it's a dream. It's like a it's
Speaker 1: her nightmare of everything she wants. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: thought that was kind of interesting. I that was one
Speaker 1: when I said I liked it, my friend's girlfriend said,
Speaker 1: what's wrong? With you I had. I had the same thing.
Speaker 1: I really liked that film a little, but I don't
Speaker 1: know many people they day, so that's all right, it's
Speaker 1: fucking great. I think it's brilliant, and people very very
Speaker 1: It was one of those things where I just said,
Speaker 1: as I've gotten older, I used to my twenties argument
Speaker 1: people about movies, and now I'm just like, I just
Speaker 1: don't have the energy. So I just went okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: I think I just said okay about fifty times as
Speaker 1: we walked to my car. I was going, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: you're right, You're right, Okay. It's such a weird thing.
Speaker 1: I had to argue with a friend the other day
Speaker 1: about a film that I just think it's amazing, and
Speaker 1: she hated it. And then she was like relentlessly kind
Speaker 1: of breaking down why it was time, what type of
Speaker 1: And I suddenly was so like, what do you want
Speaker 1: to the end of this? Do you want the thing
Speaker 1: that has made me happy to not make me happy
Speaker 1: any more? Yeah? And I've experienced that with films that
Speaker 1: I like, where people get really riled up about it
Speaker 1: and then and then sometimes I'll have like I love
Speaker 1: the film Clockwork Orange. It was a movie that it's
Speaker 1: very formidable for me. I understand that movie is not
Speaker 1: easy to watch, but I can have a conversation of
Speaker 1: why that movie struck me so much and my views
Speaker 1: of like, you know, violence and you know, and the
Speaker 1: human condition and all these things whatever. And I did
Speaker 1: have a conversation. That was the only really time where
Speaker 1: it was the opposite we were describing, because usually it's
Speaker 1: what you're describing where I go, I know what you
Speaker 1: want to But I had a friends say, but what
Speaker 1: bothers me about that film was that it became pop
Speaker 1: culture and that people would dress up like drugs. And
Speaker 1: I remember seeing the Blur video and they're dressed up
Speaker 1: like drugs and all these others thing Bart Simpson was
Speaker 1: dressed up like a drug and they're rapists. You know,
Speaker 1: they're monsters, not whe you know. That's a very good point.
Speaker 1: You're right, that is a very good point. I mean
Speaker 1: that I could understand if you go and watch that
Speaker 1: film and you go, I hate that when you go
Speaker 1: into you know, people have posters of Alex on their
Speaker 1: wall and shit, and it's like that shouldn't be, you know,
Speaker 1: And I said, I can understand why you wouldn't like
Speaker 1: that film based on that. But I think that bit
Speaker 1: is out. That's the unfortunate byproduct of the thing, you know.
Speaker 1: But I said, I hear you. I think that movie
Speaker 1: is very important, but that is a very true thing
Speaker 1: that is unfortunately. Yeah. Interesting. On the other hand, what
Speaker 1: is a film that you used to love that you've
Speaker 1: watched recently and you've got but whatever races? Did that play? Pay?
Speaker 1: There is a film that was on HBO when I
Speaker 1: was growing up and I watched all the time called
Speaker 1: The Race Trout The Race. It was like an updated
Speaker 1: fifties like hot Rod movie, but it was set in
Speaker 1: the eighties. Chryl Flynn was in it. Nick Cassavettis was
Speaker 1: in it. He was the bad guy, and Charlie Sheen
Speaker 1: is a good kid who races these guys and then
Speaker 1: he's he's killed and then he comes back as this
Speaker 1: kind of ghost, you know, this almost this alien guy,
Speaker 1: not an actual alien, but it's a guy all in
Speaker 1: leather with like the helmet on, kind of looks like
Speaker 1: daft punk, but drives this really cool car, and the
Speaker 1: car somehow just reeks revenge against all these bad kids.
Speaker 1: And it was on HBO all the time, and I
Speaker 1: was I just thought it was great. And then um,
Speaker 1: I was in Seattle and I went into a video
Speaker 1: store and I found a DVD of it and and
Speaker 1: I went nuts. And it was really expensive and I
Speaker 1: bought it and I went, oh my god, this and
Speaker 1: oh my god, I went crazy, and and it was
Speaker 1: very expensive DVD. And I got home and watched it
Speaker 1: in a minute, ten minutes. And this isn't good. That's
Speaker 1: so sad. And I called my sister because we used
Speaker 1: to watch all the time. I go I found a
Speaker 1: copy of The Wraith and she went, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: You know it might be on Amazon Prime now for
Speaker 1: all I know, but she, oh my gosh, it was.
Speaker 1: And it's terrible. What you know, it just didn't hold up? Right?
Speaker 1: What is the film that means the most to you?
Speaker 1: Not necessarily the film is any good, but the experience
Speaker 1: you had around seeing the film will always make it
Speaker 1: meaningful to you. Bill Hide, Please, So do they have SATs.
Speaker 1: They don't have it, but but they're they're like exams
Speaker 1: when you're sixteen, Yeah, this would be when we were.
Speaker 1: When you're senior of high school, So when you're seventeen,
Speaker 1: eighteen years old. You have to take yeah, that test
Speaker 1: to get into college. Yea. So the SAT is a
Speaker 1: thing that you study hard on. You know, kids, real
Speaker 1: rich kids would get you know, families would get them
Speaker 1: tutors for SA and your whole life for four years
Speaker 1: is you got to take this SAT. And how you
Speaker 1: do on this depends on what school you go to.
Speaker 1: And I went in to take my SAT and I
Speaker 1: was so overwhelmed and kind of defeated because I just
Speaker 1: didn't feel prepared that I put my name on it
Speaker 1: and I turned it in. I didn't didn't do anything.
Speaker 1: So it was complete suicide. Wow. And you know an
Speaker 1: SAT test you have to go to another facility. You
Speaker 1: don't take it at I didn't take it at my school.
Speaker 1: It's like, you go to this place, your parents have
Speaker 1: to pay all this money. It's a real thing. And
Speaker 1: then I just put my name on it and I
Speaker 1: turned it in. I got my car and I drove
Speaker 1: the movie theater and I went and saw Mars Attacks.
Speaker 1: And while I was watching Mars Attacks, I was just
Speaker 1: watching this film where these aliens are destroying earth, going, oh,
Speaker 1: my life is over. I've completely blown up my life.
Speaker 1: And I was alone at the Promenade Theater in Tulsa, Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: watching Mars attacks and just thinking I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: go home. I'm gonna have to tell my parents. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to do this. But for right now, I'm
Speaker 1: in Tim Burton's Perfect Little Flying Saucer World. Yes, that
Speaker 1: was that movie forever. If I see a poster for it,
Speaker 1: or if I come across it on television, I go, oh,
Speaker 1: my gosh. I just I don't think I've really had
Speaker 1: seen that film because I just wasn't there the whole time.
Speaker 1: It was it was like I had committed a murder. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you'd you'd meted your education school feature. Yeah, I murdered
Speaker 1: my educational Yeah, man, my future. So did you did
Speaker 1: you go home and say what you did? Or did
Speaker 1: you wait to you go zero? I said, I don't
Speaker 1: think I did very well, So I didn't really cop
Speaker 1: to it. I said, I don't think I did well.
Speaker 1: How would you define bad? I mean, I think I've
Speaker 1: got to get quite like. I mean, if you don't answer,
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean you really don't know it. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: have to be in it to get you know bad?
Speaker 1: Yeah I didn't really true, but I remember like a
Speaker 1: month later, my mother is saying, you didn't get into
Speaker 1: state school, which is I mean a given. So it
Speaker 1: was kind of like, oh man, you really blew it,
Speaker 1: you know. So, and where where I grew up, you
Speaker 1: would have to go to a junior college, which is
Speaker 1: is kind of like high school but you can smoke,
Speaker 1: which is. And so I went out of state to
Speaker 1: a junior college with Jimmy Kimmel thinks is the funniest
Speaker 1: thing on the planet. He went, Wait, you went out
Speaker 1: of state to a junior college, which really makes zero
Speaker 1: point zero sense. It makes no sense. And I went
Speaker 1: out of state and then ended up just moving to
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, you know, but you know it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: A lot of people went to junior college did great.
Speaker 1: I could be talking out of school you, but I
Speaker 1: think Sadekas might have gone to a junior college in Kansas.
Speaker 1: I feel like when he and I, because he and
Speaker 1: I shared an office together at SNL, and I feel
Speaker 1: like we both were like because you around at a
Speaker 1: live you around all these like Harvard people, and I
Speaker 1: feel really inadequate. And I remember getting Charlie Grandy and
Speaker 1: I went you went to Harvard. I was such a Hillbilly.
Speaker 1: I was like, are you serious? Even in Harvard in Massachusetts?
Speaker 1: You went to Harvard and uh, but I feel like
Speaker 1: Sadekas was like, no, no, I went to a junior college.
Speaker 1: Oh really, So I don't feel as did you write
Speaker 1: anything on your SAT? Did you did you actually do
Speaker 1: your S? Did you have to do your satcause please
Speaker 1: tell me you didn't. That's incredible, But both of you
Speaker 1: and now having to do the most intense, hard working
Speaker 1: amount of work possible like that. Yeah, that's interesting. It's
Speaker 1: what it said around. Yeah, do you know what was
Speaker 1: going on in your head when you did that? We
Speaker 1: just like I can't cope with this or I just
Speaker 1: can't cope with it. You know. I've always had really
Speaker 1: bad anxiety, and I think I just panicked and just
Speaker 1: went I can't handle this. There's so much pressure of
Speaker 1: being put on you right now. Yeah, and I just
Speaker 1: can't do it and did that, and then, you know,
Speaker 1: just dealt with the consequences. But it was definitely, up
Speaker 1: to that time in my life, the most insane thing
Speaker 1: I'd ever done. Yeah, all my friends were just going,
Speaker 1: what is wrong? Why did you do? Then? It's fast today? Bill?
Speaker 1: Why did what? What happened. Man, You're like, I just
Speaker 1: really wanted to see Buzz Attacks and it was on
Speaker 1: it one. I really wanted to see Mars Attacks. Man,
Speaker 1: what is the film most relate to When I was
Speaker 1: a kid? In the movie that I went, I related
Speaker 1: to the main character the most. Honestly, it was a
Speaker 1: Christmas story. Remember that kid? I remember that kid, just
Speaker 1: thinking like, oh, I relate to that, you know, like
Speaker 1: wanting a thing and not knowing how to get it
Speaker 1: and having a bully and you know the scene where
Speaker 1: he fights that kid and then he cries. You know.
Speaker 1: I think it's very very moving because I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I remember having a moment like that kid hit my
Speaker 1: sister with a tether ball and I tackled him and
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to hit anybody, but I was
Speaker 1: just kind of hit, you know, slapping the top of
Speaker 1: his head. But it was you start crying because your
Speaker 1: emotions are all up and all that. So I just
Speaker 1: think that that movie. I think it was very moving.
Speaker 1: I got to watch it with my children and it
Speaker 1: was kind of special because I was like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: I used to watch this all the time when I
Speaker 1: was a kid because I related to Ralphie did it
Speaker 1: work for your kids? Yeah, yeah, they liked they got
Speaker 1: really involved. I have three daughters, but they were really
Speaker 1: involved with it. But they also were, you know, raised now,
Speaker 1: so they went, he wants a gun. Why does it
Speaker 1: want a gun? You know? And he go, yeah, I know, yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it's true. You know. It's like when I watched The
Speaker 1: Goonies with them and they were like, this is fun,
Speaker 1: but like one of the girls get to do something,
Speaker 1: and I go, but the girl got to play piano.
Speaker 1: She played piano and she saved the day. And they
Speaker 1: were like, that's bullshit. Okay, you're not wrong. It was
Speaker 1: like everything back then was made and geared towards me.
Speaker 1: Is the one paper were interested in. What is the
Speaker 1: sexiest film You've ever seen? Bill? That would have to
Speaker 1: be YouTube Mama tembian I would say, is the sexiest
Speaker 1: film I've ever seen? I think all three of them
Speaker 1: are so incredibly sexy in that movie. Yeah, Mary Belle Duo,
Speaker 1: if I ever saw her, I would I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: able to like, I would just like turn around and
Speaker 1: walk away, which is I'm like, you're the like. She
Speaker 1: is so insanely gorgeous and just a phenomenal actress. I mean,
Speaker 1: what's sexy about it isn't just like it, but the
Speaker 1: acting in it. You know, her performance in that is
Speaker 1: just unbelievable. And both of them, Gail and oh my god, diego,
Speaker 1: oh my god, they're so good in that film, and
Speaker 1: they're all really hot. It is. It is just such
Speaker 1: a fantastic film. But also and it's funny because I
Speaker 1: become friendly with Alfonso Corone. When I talk to him
Speaker 1: about that one, it's like, weird, you can't really tell
Speaker 1: him like that is the sexiest I've ever seen. It's
Speaker 1: a site. I think it's one of my favorite endings
Speaker 1: to a film. That film. Yeah, I think the log
Speaker 1: is really Yeah, it's really I think that movie is
Speaker 1: just also what it says kind of like just guys
Speaker 1: at that age, and because I was the age of
Speaker 1: those guys when they move, I mean they're in their
Speaker 1: early twenties and then as whold I was when that
Speaker 1: film came out, some around their age and uh, just
Speaker 1: masculinity and they're trying to be you know, these just
Speaker 1: these morons and if she comes in and they just
Speaker 1: again it wasn't message, it wasn't too on the nose.
Speaker 1: It was just a feeling and a vibe of the
Speaker 1: whole thing that was just so emotional and incredibly sexy.
Speaker 1: I mean the end of that film when she's dancing
Speaker 1: into the camera's just that is just so unbelievably sexy,
Speaker 1: but also like works for the character and why they're
Speaker 1: all getting drunk together and all this tension, the tension
Speaker 1: in that movie. There's so much sexual tension in that movie,
Speaker 1: but also what's happening with the characters, like really tragic.
Speaker 1: Weren't they given I believe that that film was made
Speaker 1: like that. They were given basically given money to make
Speaker 1: a sex film, Like it was a low budget thing.
Speaker 1: There were like three sex films being made by by company,
Speaker 1: so it was sort of like, here's some money, go
Speaker 1: make a sex film. And then it turned in this
Speaker 1: incredibly profound beautiful which is also a sex film, but
Speaker 1: it's also so much more than that. Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's really something. Yeah, I think he's
Speaker 1: one of the great filmmakers for sure. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: subcategory to this question. Bill had a troubling bone, is worrying,
Speaker 1: why don't the film you found arousing that you weren't
Speaker 1: sure he should I don't know. Yeah, I couldn't figure
Speaker 1: that one out if I have one, but there, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not trying to be you know, monesty
Speaker 1: or anything, but I can't think of one. But I
Speaker 1: mean I do think I was of the era of
Speaker 1: the Princess lay a slave outfit, which again, watching that
Speaker 1: with my kids makes zero sense. That's why my daughters
Speaker 1: are out there, like, why is she in that outfit?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, again, if this movie is geared towards
Speaker 1: me and meal like boys, this thing is geared towards boys,
Speaker 1: because it made it makes no sense that she's suddenly
Speaker 1: in that outfit. You know, really, well, hasn't he made
Speaker 1: the address like that? I mean, I'm not saying it's right,
Speaker 1: but but they said then why I guess My thing
Speaker 1: is like, if she's in an outfit, why aren't Luke
Speaker 1: and Han in different outfits? Because they're all being taken
Speaker 1: prisoner because listen, he's prizing, I mean, he's planning no
Speaker 1: into boys. He's put one of them on ice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the other one's one and the other one he doesn't
Speaker 1: want to see the other one to sneak in. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's pissed. But yeah, I guess that would be the
Speaker 1: closest one that you know. That's fair. That's fair, Bill Hide.
Speaker 1: What is objectively the greatest film of all time might
Speaker 1: not be your favorite, but it's the greatest if you're
Speaker 1: going by storytelling, acting, cinematography, editing, you know, I am everything.
Speaker 1: The Godfather, the First Godfather would probably be pound for pound.
Speaker 1: That's like. When I watched that film, I go, well,
Speaker 1: everything is working in this thing into like a perfect level.
Speaker 1: Is it my favorite movie? No, which also says something
Speaker 1: like you're saying, you know, but I would probably say
Speaker 1: The Godfather. When I watched that, I just go, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is like if I had to teach a class,
Speaker 1: you would just show The Godfather and go there it is.
Speaker 1: There's all the other stuff. I mean, another one I
Speaker 1: think I would just say. Another one that's close for
Speaker 1: me is The Third Man is another one. When I
Speaker 1: watched that one, I go, well, this one just this
Speaker 1: just works, This just works on every level. This thing
Speaker 1: just works. You know. Yeah, tell me this, what is
Speaker 1: the film you could or have watched the most iver
Speaker 1: and ivery get? I mean, it runs a gambit of
Speaker 1: a loving death. It is Woody Allen movie. I really
Speaker 1: like the last detail with Jack Nicholson. Yeah, Taxi Driver
Speaker 1: is one of my favorite films. KNIGHTSI Giberia, the Flinging
Speaker 1: Movie is one of my favorite films. I watched that
Speaker 1: a lot, a movie called a Kiu but Chris Sawa,
Speaker 1: I watched that a lot. Rosemary's Baby Airplane, you know,
Speaker 1: like you know, these are the movies that if they're
Speaker 1: on I just sit and watch. I just I have
Speaker 1: to watch the whole thing. You know that Rosemary Baby
Speaker 1: and Taxi Driver both quite funny. I think, yeah, that
Speaker 1: quite It took me as I go out. I found
Speaker 1: them funny as in I'm not saying they're funny all
Speaker 1: the way through it, but they're are Like Rosebary Baby
Speaker 1: is like a sort of social I think it's like
Speaker 1: a film about manners. It's like the whole Yeah, that
Speaker 1: movie just wouldn't happen if she wasn't at as she said,
Speaker 1: get out of my house. Yeah, it always has to
Speaker 1: say no, but yeah, yes after you sure, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I was trying to what's so great about that
Speaker 1: as the role of that woman is that she's so
Speaker 1: nice and trying to make everyone happy, and then the
Speaker 1: fear of childbirth and she's doing everything right, you know,
Speaker 1: and she just gets taken advantage of. I just thought
Speaker 1: it was. And there's the moment in tax Club, but
Speaker 1: it always thinks funny where he meets the guy in
Speaker 1: the hotel room to buy guns and the guy then
Speaker 1: offers him drugs and he's so offended, like, yeah, stuff,
Speaker 1: Yeah do you think I am Yes, Stephen France, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that guy, Stephen Friendly goes nictrous. Ok side, so I
Speaker 1: like a Cadillac Cadillac with the thing. Yeah, I would
Speaker 1: say even the scene that is an awful, awful scene.
Speaker 1: And that's what Scorsesey's so good at. He was taking
Speaker 1: really terrible scenes, like when he's going to Harvey Kite
Speaker 1: tell about Jody Foster and Harvey Kite tells like the
Speaker 1: lowest scumbag on the planet, And even that scene has
Speaker 1: like Scorsese's like, yeah, but that guy's not not funny,
Speaker 1: you know, he's a immoral piece of shit. But he
Speaker 1: has to be charming on some dumb level or he
Speaker 1: couldn't get these women. So even that scene, he's like,
Speaker 1: I had a horse, I got hit by a car.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I have no idea what he's talking about
Speaker 1: you know, he's just so strange in that scene that
Speaker 1: you're like and and watching him. And I love watching
Speaker 1: that scene because I remember liking mean streets and how
Speaker 1: the roles were reversed where it was Harvey Kitell was
Speaker 1: a straight guy and DeNiro was the crazy guy, and
Speaker 1: it's just so cool seeing that and then watching Taxi
Speaker 1: Driver when I was, you know, thirteen or fourteen and
Speaker 1: kind of really obsessed with those films. You know, we
Speaker 1: don't like to be negative, but hey do I don't
Speaker 1: know if you j don't, but we'll do it quickly.
Speaker 1: What's the worst film you've ever seen? I will say
Speaker 1: the first film that I was very disappointed in as
Speaker 1: a kid was teen Wolf two. That was the film
Speaker 1: because I loved teen Wolf one so much that I
Speaker 1: went in the theater to see teen Wolf two and
Speaker 1: it was an abomination. I forget what's the daily teen
Speaker 1: Wolf takes a different sport, right, He's boxing. He's a
Speaker 1: boxing wolf. He's a boxer. And it's Jason Bateman, who
Speaker 1: I'm friendly with, who's one of the loveliest human beings
Speaker 1: on the planet, and he's just kind of in this
Speaker 1: situation where he's got to be. Basically, they couldn't get
Speaker 1: Michael J. Fox, so they got Jason Bateman to do
Speaker 1: the Michael J. Fox pit. And then there's some guy
Speaker 1: from the first movie in the second movie. But yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a boxer and it's the exact same story, but
Speaker 1: at college and he's a boxer. Is he meant to
Speaker 1: be the same team? Is he meant to his cousin?
Speaker 1: I know, no, it's I think is what it was.
Speaker 1: But when you're watching it, but I think the dad,
Speaker 1: you know, I only saw it that one time and
Speaker 1: I was nine or ten, you know, and just went,
Speaker 1: this is the same movie. So it was just like
Speaker 1: that was awful, you know, as the first time as
Speaker 1: a kid. I felt disappointed in the film and I
Speaker 1: was so excited and I work on this film. Paul
Speaker 1: was Simon Pegg and Nick Frost and Jason Bateman was
Speaker 1: in that film and as a rap gift, they gave
Speaker 1: him a Team Wolf two poster signed by all of us.
Speaker 1: And I might have written, this was the first film
Speaker 1: to disappoint me. And Jason is one of the greatest
Speaker 1: guys and really phenomenal actor and director and just a
Speaker 1: great guy. But I felt bad. Yeah, that was my
Speaker 1: introduction to Jay Funny. What is you're in comedy? You're
Speaker 1: a comedian. What's the film that made you laugh the most?
Speaker 1: I mean, definitely Love and Death was the one that
Speaker 1: I love that made me laugh really hard. Those Zucker
Speaker 1: Brothers movies like Airplane and Naked Guns still make me laugh.
Speaker 1: I mean, clearly, I'm a big Cohen Brothers fan. If
Speaker 1: you watch Barry, I mean those of Cohen Brothers type stuff,
Speaker 1: and that A Serious Man especially is the one lately
Speaker 1: that really makes me laugh. That movies very funny. And
Speaker 1: I got to work with Fred Mellomet who's in that movie,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, I would those are something that really
Speaker 1: those ones really get me, Bill Hide, what's an absolute
Speaker 1: pleasure you have been? However, when you sky dove at
Speaker 1: eighty three and you were sky dancing and I like,
Speaker 1: dell close. Your parachute did open, and it opened, and
Speaker 1: your sky dance very slowly down. Everyone was like, wow,
Speaker 1: you know, he's pretty nimble for an eighty three year old.
Speaker 1: Look at him go and you everyone was standing around,
Speaker 1: well done, well done, Bill Hayder. And you were like
Speaker 1: hey guys as you floated down, Hey guys, and you
Speaker 1: landed you said hey, and you had a heart attack
Speaker 1: and you died. And I'm walking past because I've heard
Speaker 1: you were doing this skydance show, and I'm bringing the
Speaker 1: coffee with me, you know what I'm like. And I
Speaker 1: see loads of people gathered around and they're shouting at
Speaker 1: the sky, at the skydiving company. People again, you killed Billy.
Speaker 1: And I go get out of the way, guys, get away,
Speaker 1: and I go listen. They didn't. They didn't kill Bill Hayda.
Speaker 1: You had a heart attack. It just happened to happen
Speaker 1: exactly the moment he landed and the sky DOLOPI go, exactly,
Speaker 1: We're really safe. We're good. I don't worry, guys, it's
Speaker 1: not gonna be a law suit. Off you go. Everyone
Speaker 1: clears and there you are, smashed dead in the ground.
Speaker 1: And unfortunately, in all the commotion, people were stomping on you,
Speaker 1: trying to get killed the skin of people. Your body's
Speaker 1: a mess. So I'm scraping you off the roads, bits
Speaker 1: of concrete. I'm having to chop up bits of you
Speaker 1: just to get you into some stuff. You in the coffin.
Speaker 1: I stuff you in, But there's more of you than
Speaker 1: I was expecting. There's bits of the parachute. We can't
Speaker 1: get it all off anyway. The coffin is now rammed.
Speaker 1: It is full. There is barely any room in it.
Speaker 1: There is just enough room to slide one DVD for
Speaker 1: you to take across to the other side. On the
Speaker 1: other side, it's movie night every night. What film are
Speaker 1: you taking to show the people of heaven when it
Speaker 1: is your movie night? Bill Hayder Nick a gun and
Speaker 1: they will love you for it. You will be very
Speaker 1: well film. Bill Hayden, what joy? What tree? I'm so
Speaker 1: grateful you did this. Oh was fun, man, Oh, this
Speaker 1: is a lot of fun. Is there anything you would
Speaker 1: like to tell people to watch, look out for, or
Speaker 1: listen to in the coming times. Oh? I like this
Speaker 1: movie called You Were Not My Mother. I enjoyed that
Speaker 1: as a horror film from Ireland. I thought was pretty good.
Speaker 1: This is very generous of you. But I'm talking about
Speaker 1: your right stuff. Oh oh oh oh, oh, well, Barry,
Speaker 1: that's the only thing I work on. Yeah, watch Barry
Speaker 1: if you can. My whole life right now is doing
Speaker 1: that show. But uh, but yeah, you should see You
Speaker 1: Were Not My Mother is a great film. Yeah, I thought,
Speaker 1: Kay Morgan the director's name. Do a great job. So
Speaker 1: you were know my mother and then three seasons of Barry.
Speaker 1: It's what you would recommend ye, Bill Hide, thank you
Speaker 1: for your time and for your excellent work. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Good day to you. I hope you have a wonderful debt.
Speaker 1: Good night a good debt. That was Episode two hundred
Speaker 1: and two. Head over to the Patreon at patreon dot
Speaker 1: com forwards slash break Goalstein for the extra chat, secrets
Speaker 1: and free episode plus videos of many of the other guests.
Speaker 1: Don't forget to get your tickets for the live show
Speaker 1: at the Hackney Empire to live second tickets at Hackney
Speaker 1: Empire dot co dot UK or Place dot co dot UK.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Bill for giving me all
Speaker 1: his time. Thank you so much to Jason for organizing it.
Speaker 1: Thanks to Scrubs, Pip and the Distraction Pieces Network. Thanks
Speaker 1: to Buddy Peace for producing it. Thanks to ACAS for
Speaker 1: hosting it. Thanks Adam Richardson for the graphics at least
Speaker 1: align them for the photography. Come and join me next
Speaker 1: week for another absolutely stonecold Killer episode. I hope you
Speaker 1: are all well. Nice to talk to you again. So
Speaker 1: that is it for now. In the meantime, have a
Speaker 1: lovely week and please be excellent to each others. Was utraust?
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