WEBVTT - Severance Season 2 Episode 8: Sweet Vitriol 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:04.400 Warning today's episode Today spoilers for episode two eight of 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.920 Severance Sweet Vitriol. If you have not watched that, watch 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:27.400 it come back here you warning. Hello, my name is 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:30.319 Jason Concepcion and I'm rosday Night and welcome back to 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:32.959 Excervader of the podcast where we dive deep in your 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:35.400 favorite shows, movies, comics and pop culture coming from our 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:39.640 podcast or we're bringing you three episodes week every Tuesday, Wednesday, 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:42.280 and Thursday on Saturday. 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:48.800 In today's episode, we are recapping and discussing the raw, 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:55.040 the sad, and depressing new episode of Severance Sweet Vitriol, which. 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:58.280 Is currently on Apple TV Plus. We will be recapping 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:00.920 the episode. Then we're gonna fall up on our theory 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:05.000 corner and see where that's at. Maybe let's get to. 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:12.040 It, okay. Episode two eight Sweet Vitriol, directed by Benjamin Stiller, 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:16.040 written oh by series creator Dan Erickson, Adam County, and 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:22.400 Casey Perry. This is a Kobel bottle and a little 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:25.240 bottle of ether for all you fans of Cobel out 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:30.440 and also the shortest run time of the season, and 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:32.399 I think almost of the series I need to go 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:36.640 and look back, but just over thirty five minutes, Cobell 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:41.000 is driving what I assume to be north. 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:43.720 It feels like somewhere north, especially. 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:48.240 In the North Ish, to a desolate coastal town called 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:51.120 salts Neck. It will turn out that this is her hometown. 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:54.840 On the way, Devin is like blowing up her phone, 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:57.320 but Cobel is just gonna. 0:01:57.080 --> 0:01:58.120 Leave her on read. 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:01.560 She pulls up to the town and is brushing her 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:04.480 teeth and she's just looking around. And we get our 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:09.720 first look at this husk of a town where as 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:14.960 we will see, everyone who lives there is somehow attached 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:18.679 to the illicit ether trade. They are either huff in 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:23.040 the stuff out of a rag or as with Cobel's 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:26.960 former coworker Hampton, selling it. So she pulls up to 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:32.040 this diner, the Drippy Pot Cafe. Incredibly, the manager Hampton 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:38.920 is her old colleague aka former child laborer, alongside Harmony 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:41.800 Cobell at the Lumen Plant, which is on the outskirts 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:42.680 of town back. 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:42.960 In the day. 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:47.320 There is clearly something happened between them. Because clearly there's 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:51.520 something between them I seen as something like almost anger, 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:57.000 but just under the surface. Yes, Cobell says, wow, the 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:00.000 town looks like shit doesn't look anything like I remember 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:03.080 remembered it and Hampton, and one of my favorite parts 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:06.959 of this episode is this little spiel that Hampton gives, 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:10.919 which is he basically goes into the corporate jargony reasons 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:14.320 that the town now looks like absolute fucking shit, and 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:19.080 it's clear that he's like regurgitating this corporate pr speaks 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:21.440 story that was given to the inhabitants of the town 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.200 when Luman pulled out, She's like, can we go to 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:26.280 the factory to go discuss some things? So they go 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:30.120 there out by the factory, Cold Harbor question mark, Yeah, 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:32.280 the entire town mark Cold Harbor. 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:35.240 They definitely want us to think that because it's literally 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:41.040 icy cold, coupled by the ocean, webs can come and go. 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:46.960 So yes, they have an annoyingly cryptic conversation out here. 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:49.960 And I will say this was the one. This is 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.800 the This is not a bad episode, although I've seen 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:54.760 it as semi divisive, and. 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:57.240 I think it's a little divisive. I think it widened well, 0:03:57.720 --> 0:03:59.960 we'll talk about mobile. I think it widens the wild 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:06.400 of severance that is very different to what the peak 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:08.840 of the show has been. So I'm I'm not surprised 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:09.960 that it got people. 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:13.040 Yes, but this is very This is an episode is 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:17.599 very dependent on those kind of maybe like the lowest 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:22.599 value cryptic conversations that Severance is known for, where two 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:25.560 characters or more characters are having a conversation with the 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:30.080 important information kind of lifted out that they know and 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:32.720 we don't. And this is one of those episodes where 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:34.000 I'm like noticing that. 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:35.520 They're just having a scryptic conversation. 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:39.360 Anyway, They're talking about Sissy, who it will turn out, 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:43.599 is Kobel's maternal aunt and a full on cure cultist 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:47.920 who took in Harmony when Harmony's mom was was ill 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:53.560 with ether related lung disease. Coobel admits that listen, I've 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:55.640 got some lumin heat on me. They're mad at me, 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:58.880 and so they're after me for whatever reason, and I 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:00.719 need to go talk to Sissy, but also I can't 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:05.320 be seen in case anybody's watching the house. So Cobel 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:07.960 is like, can you take me up there? So Cobel 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:11.440 then drops some cure lore about the factory, saying, you 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:13.880 know Kiri, which we've seen, We've seen the painting right 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:15.120 where yeah. 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:17.240 There's a g I will say if you are not 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:22.479 somebody who watches the recaps, this is a great episode 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:25.120 because I have to say, if there is an editing 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:30.040 award for a recap and a previously on that actually 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:33.120 tells you every single thing you need to know, this 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:36.920 episode has an unbelievable recap where you get some really 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:41.720 great quotes and kind of context from Helena. There's this 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:43.840 great moment where she and me and Joel were kind 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:46.479 of going mad about this one where she shows her 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:49.600 saying to Harmony in a previous episode like you overestimate 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.960 your brilliance and underestimate your blessings. And you can start 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:56.760 to see the bitterness and kind of why the vegans 0:05:56.839 --> 0:06:00.000 might not like Harmony in this episode. And then yeah, 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:03.920 we get the Imagiant and Kia paintings and kind of 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:07.640 the the we it's such a good raycap, Like give 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:10.960 that head some money, because I was really like, whoa 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:13.599 they they drool the threads together for me? But yes, 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:15.680 so we've seen the paintings. We kind of know a 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:18.120 bit more. But now we're getting the real law. 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:26.440 Right, So apparently according to the Egan lower kir Met. 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:30.359 His partner imagen imaging imaging. 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:33.200 Yeah, I'm a giant imagine they say it and strange. 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:36.719 They say it in a stranger basically imagen at the. 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:41.080 Ether factory, and Hampton is like, oh was her Like 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:44.440 were her lungs ravaged as well? And then Cobel is like, 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:46.120 take me up to Sissy. So they go up there, 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:50.599 and Cobel rides in the in the bed of Hampton's 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:54.760 pickup just in case the Luogoons are watching. Hampton is 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:58.719 clearly not a fan of Sissy at all. Cobel knocks 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:00.880 on the door, barges in, and Cissy's like, what the 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:02.800 fuck are you doing here? She just goes in and 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:06.960 starts looking around, and we see that there. You know 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:09.560 that clearly Harmony and Hampton grew up here because we 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:13.160 see their growth markers on the door, like any house 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:16.560 that has children in it. And Cobel is looking for 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:19.920 desperately looking around for her stuff. There's something in her 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:23.040 stuff that was that she needs. There's a plaque on 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:28.280 the wall announcing that Sissy real name Celestine. Cobel was 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.120 like the lumin version of employee of the Month, but 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:32.560 it's like employee. 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:34.240 Of the Quarter, like the striver of the quarter. 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:37.680 You're like a cult follower of yes. 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:42.280 Like so, Harmony's like, where's my stuff, Where's my childhood stuff? 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:43.880 Where's my stuff from when I was a kid, when 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:45.720 I was a student, when I was in the Fellow 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:47.600 Tide Wintertide Fellowship. 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:50.000 I need all that stuff. Cecy's like, well, I sold 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:50.520 it to the. 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:53.600 Poor everyone has bo babe, why did you sell it to? 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:54.080 Yeah? 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:54.920 Why did you do that? 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:59.800 And Harmony's like, well, has anybody from Lumen come. 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:00.440 By or called? 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:04.200 And He's like, yeah, mister Drummond called. And it's clear 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:06.800 that Sissy knows that Harmony is in some kind of trouble. 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:11.640 Harmony immediately runs over, disconnects the phone, rips the fucking 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.440 cordla phone, and then is like, give me the key 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:19.040 to my mom's room. And here's an interesting exchange. She 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:24.960 then asks Cissy, what were my mother's last last words? 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:28.640 And it basically accuses Cissy of like against. 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:30.000 Her mother's will, pulling her mother. 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:35.920 Off of life support, and Cissy is basically implies that 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:39.840 her mother wanted her to take her off life support 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:45.920 and then says of Harmony's mom quote, if only she 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:48.320 was a believer, perhaps she would have found solace in 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:52.040 the Nine. The nine, you know, the command. 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:55.640 Potentially, which is also of cure. Yeah, okay, So if 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:59.679 I'm dying of lung disease from either recycle, I'm going 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:01.960 to be I'm like, I'm gonna be thinking about vision 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:07.840 of witch, realty, benevolence, nimbleness, wild, how you. 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:13.000 Will be lifted away. But I found the the last 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:16.040 word it felt very weighted, to the point where I 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:22.079 was like, it almost made me wonder if Sissy. 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:27.000 Truly knew her reasons for. 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:31.800 In a severance kind of way, truly understood what happened 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:35.160 when she took Mom off life support, was that her 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:39.840 doing that was There's some because clearly, you know, Ether 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:44.200 was one and early product of Women, which we now 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:47.880 understand is a pharma tech kind of company makes a 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:50.160 lot of products, but forman tech seem to be the mainstays, 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:55.319 and that Ether was an early attempt at like wiping 0:09:55.400 --> 0:10:00.600 people's minds so that they would not experience and the 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:02.520 rigor of the work they were doing. 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:06.440 They were like, oh, you can basically just use ether 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:10.800 as essentially an anesthetic, but a walking anesthetic, because ether 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:13.320 is an anesthetic. But they were like, can you get 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:16.880 people to be on it so they don't notice how 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:20.320 bad their lives are, which is honestly very real. Like 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:23.120 up north in England in places where there was a 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:26.360 lot of minds, there was big like pain huffing culture 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:31.559 and like different kind of substance abuse because of how 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:34.440 bad it was to work in the minds and to 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:36.880 be a child laborer and stuff. So this is actually 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:41.360 like very depressingly real. But it's interesting to see how 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.520 they're now going to take that and as we learn 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:46.520 later in this episode, kind of how it became severance 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:47.920 as we know it now. 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:51.679 We get a lot of information from this back and 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:56.280 forth argument between Harmony and her aunt, including that Harmony's 0:10:56.320 --> 0:11:01.400 mom really started to serious declined when Harmony was at 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:04.640 school and Cissy kept this from her. She said, I 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:06.880 would have come back to take care of her. But 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:09.040 Sissy is like, no, it was so important that you 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.400 were in the Wintertide Fellow and like you're a Wintertide 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:15.120 fellow and Keer saw you with his own eye, Jamee, 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:17.200 and you know it was like you are you're such 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:20.559 an incredible striver, like you were hand hicked by the Egans. 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:24.480 He saw Kier and you yes, say James saw here 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:28.720 in you. All that kind of stuff Harmony is like, well, 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:32.000 what a drummond want when he called? And Sissy doesn't say, 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:35.200 but basically is like, just go back, ask forgiveness from 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:38.440 the Egans and they will agree to forgive you. And 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:42.600 Harmony looks down in Cissy's hands as she's playing with 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:45.800 some kind of like jame Egan dollhead, which will become 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:50.120 clear what this reminds her of later, but that sparks 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:52.960 something in her. She remembers something about the things she's 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:56.839 looking for, runs up to Sissy's room and then basically 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.680 like cop tosses it, looks through everything, finds the key 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:03.400 to mom's room, and then goes to open the door. 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.599 And we're gonna take a quick break to. 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:07.600 Listen to a word from our sponsors. 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:09.800 Then we're going to talk about what is inside there, 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:24.360 and we're back. 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:26.720 First of all, I would have just kicked the door open, 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:29.160 because this house looks like it hasn't been updated built 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:37.000 like one. Yeah, just like bad boy in worry about 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:38.200 the Pompy. 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:40.360 Is strong compared to everyone else here, who's like fucked 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:41.320 up on etha like she. 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:46.360 Anyway, she gets the key, she goes inside and there's 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:50.240 her mother's room just as it must have appeared when 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:53.440 she was ill and when she passed away. You know, 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:56.640 the the bed is raised at at like a forty 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:59.679 five degree angle, so that which is easier for people 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:03.600 with bathing issues. It's easier to breathe when you're resting. 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:04.800 When you're sitting up slightly. 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:09.520 We see the breathing machine, We see her moth eaten, 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:13.760 her mother's moth eaten clothes in the closet. We see 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:16.240 a picture what I assume to be Harmony when she 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:19.199 was a child. And then Harmony lays on the bed. 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:27.000 And it's interesting because I perceive this as she puts 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.200 the breathing tube to her mouth and begins breathing through it. 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:34.840 And I perceive this as she's trying to get in 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:37.599 touch with her mother's last week's, last. 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:41.560 Months exactly like what did it feel like. It's a 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:46.559 really unsettling and kind of depressing image because there's also 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:50.439 the duality of like she's like laying there like breathing 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:53.360 into her breathing in and out, and it's very similar 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.520 to kind of the ether huffing kind of breathing that 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:58.320 you would do. There's a lot of layers here, and 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:00.840 I have to say which I'm way you feel about 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:05.120 the episode. Patricia Ucat is absolutely killing it, like this 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:07.640 is a powerhouse episode and I wouldn't be surprised with 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:12.120 that trying to put forward for some awarned contention here. 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:16.840 So she Harmony cries herself sleep, and then we see 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:23.000 this image that I originally thought was like something under 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:27.520 a microscope, like crystals and her microscope, but which our 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:32.920 discord chief Heidi tells me is like a satellite shot 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:38.360 of ice that they then superimposed over the waters in 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:43.200 the bay, kind of sloshing around against the testing. And 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:49.320 then time passes and Harmony is awakened to the sound 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:53.480 of Hampton and Sissy arguing as he comes in to 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:57.240 basically look for and he's he's just like, you. 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:59.040 Know, it's been a long time, and I'm freezing like what. 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:02.920 He outside of a truck? Why are you having a nap? Like, please, 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:04.080 it's very cold out there. 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:06.800 Harmony is like, I can't find it, whatever it is, 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:11.760 and they talk about her mom. Hampton liked her. When 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:14.400 Harmony says, well you barely knew her, he says she 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:16.680 hated lumin more than I did. That's all I needed 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:19.360 to know. So interesting interesting details. 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:22.240 Yeah, it also feels like adds to the idea that 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:25.480 Sissy probably took her off life support or you know, 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:30.080 killed her, because potentially, I don't know, maybe she was 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:33.320 an early hater of Lumen in a way that could 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:36.080 impact the rest of what we see going on in 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:36.760 the rest of the seas. 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.640 Hampton then asks like, do you want to get huh, 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:44.360 pulls out an ether rag and gets into it. You know, 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:47.120 Harmony huffs a little, rag gets into that rag, and 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.080 she's like, I haven't done that since I was eight, 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:53.800 And it was clear this was part of the work day, 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:55.720 because Hampton is like, you're ready to man the that 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:58.800 for ten hours, which is just dire. 0:15:59.280 --> 0:15:59.560 Yeah. 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:00.600 She then tells. 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:04.640 Hampton that it's shameful that you sell this, and they kiss, 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:09.400 and then suddenly Harmony's like, oh, now I'm getting another 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:12.239 piece of where that stuff might be. And we're realizing 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:16.240 that whether it's ether or her long life, Harmony's memory 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:19.920 is spotty as like, not as spotty as obviously someone 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:22.360 has been severed, but like she's trying to claw back 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:25.240 that year in a way that many characters. 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:27.880 There's still stuff she can't remember. 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:30.560 So she gets the idea and she's like, Sissy would 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:32.480 not have thrown my stuff away or given it to 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:32.760 the poor. 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:33.400 I don't believe that. 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:36.400 She goes outside to like a kind of underground pantry, 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.840 a cold room, and she finds her stuff, including like 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:45.160 a lumin yearbook and with her like Wintertide fellow right 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:49.120 up in there, and some stuff animals, and then she 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:55.760 finds her Wintertide like Fellowship award bust of James Egan. 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:59.520 And that is the thing that sparked when she looked 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:03.480 in Cissy's hands and saw her holding like a Jame 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:07.399 Egan doll head. This is what sparked in her because 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:11.240 inside of the bust, she unscrews the base. Inside there 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:14.920 is a rolled up leather bound notebook, and then she goes. 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:19.440 She immediately runs into Sissy, and she's brandishing the rolled 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:22.320 up notebook and she's like, I'm leaving now. Don't tell 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:24.119 the lumins that I was here. And Sissy's like, I 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:25.720 would never lie to an Egan. 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:30.320 Oh, come on. 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:36.560 Sissy is like, listen, you owe the Egans. You're fealty 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:39.320 because of what they lifted you up from nothing and 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:42.560 the fellowship, and look at your great success and all 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:44.320 the things you've done in your life. It's all because 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:48.000 of them, so you can never go against them. Harmony 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:51.040 then says, oh, I owe them, and she opens the 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:54.520 notebook and she's screaming that like, basically, severance was her idea. 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:55.639 Quite to me. 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:56.720 It's the design, the. 0:17:56.760 --> 0:18:00.919 Chip, the surgery, the brain waves, the glass go block, 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:03.880 all the fucking shit that is involved in the process, 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:08.440 the technology created by her and stolen essentially by Jame 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:12.399 Egan and passed off as his own. She Harmony says, like, 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:15.040 they told me if I sought credit for this, that 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:18.159 I would be banished whatever that means from the e 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:22.119 I guess from the Egan cult. And Sissy then tries 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:25.920 to burn the notebook, which come on, baby, why Harmony 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:29.080 snatches it out of the fire and says basically that 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:32.760 she hopes that she dies, and then Sissy's like, well, 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:37.120 oh yeah, well your mom pulled the tube out herself. 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:40.080 She clawed it out of her neck, and Harmony's like, 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:42.679 oh well, I don't fucking believe you. Meanwhile, Hampton is 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:48.960 honking because someone's coming. Harmony gets into Hampton's car is like, 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:51.919 I'm leaving, and Hampton is like, well, I'm gonna stay here, 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:55.480 and face whatever this is, and then Harmony speeds off 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:58.920 and you see these headlights approaching and Hampton says, come 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:04.240 to take these tempers assholes. Meanwhile in the truck, Harmony 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:07.960 finally answers her phone. It's Devin. Devin is like, oh 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:11.520 my god, thank God. Like Mark is integrating, but we 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:14.639 want to we want to try something else, she says, 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:23.080 and immediately Harmony understands that only Regabi could have done this, 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:27.800 the reintegration process with Mark, and then she's like, put 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:30.800 Mark on the phone, markets on the phone, and then 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:32.040 we basically cut. 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:33.840 Yeah, She's like tell me everything. 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:36.880 Yeah to Oh, what's the name of that bed? 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:43.440 Oh everyone's favorite patent? 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:47.160 Oh yeah it was what was it? Firewoman? I think 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:48.400 by the Cult. 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:53.720 Which pointed here's a little trivia, a little trivia for you. Yeah, 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:56.800 very pointed, right. The Cult also a little trivia that 0:19:56.840 --> 0:19:58.600 I think the lead singer for the Cult was like 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:01.840 in the Running for Play Jim Morrison in the Doors movie. Anyway, 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:05.480 let's go to a quick ad and then come back 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:24.159 and talk about this episode. And we're back, Rosie. We 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:28.040 got a lot of interesting stuff in this episode. It 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:31.360 is a little light of an episode in terms of 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:33.639 connected to something to everything else. 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:35.240 But your thoughts on this episode. 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:39.560 I think that it broadens the world in a way 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:44.000 I do find intriguing, but I give. 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:45.600 You some of the really important backstory. 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:48.000 It gives us some of the backstory. It also kind 0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:51.240 of hints at what is out there, because I've always 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:54.119 thought one of the most interesting things about separance is 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:57.960 we know what the Ennis are trying to escape, but 0:20:58.000 --> 0:21:01.240 we never really know what the our ties are kind 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:05.760 of living through, Like is the Egan cult something that 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:09.200 is in control of the world like we we it's 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:12.560 there's They could do a broad kind of rug pull 0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:15.399 where they reveal and I think this does broaden it 0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:19.600 a bit. I get why people were kind of shocked 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:24.360 by the shift, but I do also think that there 0:21:24.440 --> 0:21:29.439 is something very interesting about Harmony's journey here and the 0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:32.199 you know, yeah, it is as I saw a lot 0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:35.200 of people talking about, it's very interesting to be like, oh, 0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:38.679 a woman made this and it was stolen, but also 0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:42.520 then she stayed within the company and used it to 0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:47.600 exploit many other people, And I think that it adds 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:52.640 a moral complexity. I also think that Regarbi and Harmony 0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:56.760 clearly have some kind of past together and I'm interested 0:21:56.880 --> 0:22:00.920 also to know. I believe what Sis she said when 0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:04.680 she said that Harmony's mom pulled out her own breathing tube. 0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:07.359 And I think the reason why is because Harmony's mom 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:10.399 was told that her daughter had created this kind of 0:22:10.440 --> 0:22:14.200 even more extreme, horrible thing, and I think she was horrified. 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:17.000 I thought this was a very hard episode to watch, 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:21.679 but not because it wasn't good. It's just incredibly depressing. Amply, 0:22:21.920 --> 0:22:23.960 it is a very very depressing episode something I mean 0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:28.840 Severance has had. I just think that they the genre 0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:31.880 concept and the mystery when You're in with the Innies 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:34.639 has kind of had a lightness to it that this 0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:35.680 episode does not have. 0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:39.520 You know, it's it's a very very bleak episode, down 0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:43.879 to the landscape being bleak and like it's almost lifeless, 0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:49.199 like a moonscape this episode. I agree with you in 0:22:49.240 --> 0:22:52.240 everything you're saying about, you know, the harmony of it all. 0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:55.560 I think that the way I perceived this, the complexity 0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:58.000 of her creating the Severance procedure, is that, like I 0:22:58.000 --> 0:22:59.560 think it was an act of love. I think she 0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:03.159 saw her mom be damaged by the mines, she watched 0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:05.640 everyone around her be damaged by breathing in this ether, 0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:08.159 and she thought, okay. 0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:09.640 Since. 0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:13.240 I mean, like, it's crazy that the culture of working 0:23:13.280 --> 0:23:18.320 for Egan is like, we do such crazy, rigorous, dangerous 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:21.240 work that you want to not remember you were there 0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:23.680 when you leave, Like, how can we make how can 0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:25.840 we make that part of it essentially like a kind 0:23:25.880 --> 0:23:29.600 of punch clock slavery situation, you know, where you're a 0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:31.679 slave when you punch in, but then you leave and 0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:35.960 you're and you're fine, you're yourself. And clearly coming up 0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:39.320 with this procedure was an act of love, almost like 0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:41.720