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Speaker 1: The Frend Show is on. It's Stay or Go, Like, Taren,

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Speaker 1: good morning, Taren. How are you welcome? Hey?

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Speaker 2: How are you doing.

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Speaker 1: Doing all right? Welcome to stay or go? A little

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Speaker 1: group therapy action here. What's going on with you and

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Speaker 1: this guy that you've been dating?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so just we've been dating for like about four months,

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Speaker 2: almost four months now, and he's a great guy, Like

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Speaker 2: he's he's almost too good to be true, but not

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Speaker 2: in that creepy way, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 2: not like okay, you're too perfect or wrong with you oh,

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Speaker 2: like you might be.

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Speaker 1: A psychopath or something like yeah, right.

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Speaker 2: Or you may have like been, you know, researching the

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Speaker 2: perfect man things and I'm just doing that.

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Speaker 3: Like he's not that guy.

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Speaker 2: So I'm just I'm just nuts about him. But then

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Speaker 2: I found out something and I'm not sure what to

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Speaker 2: do about it. I'm not sure how I feel about it,

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Speaker 2: if that makes sense.

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Speaker 4: So, you know, and especially as especially as.

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Speaker 2: A woman like you, you're real aware of your surroundings.

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Speaker 2: And I kept getting this weird feeling that I was

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Speaker 2: being watched, and there were a couple of times I

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Speaker 2: felt like it was being followed and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: And again especially as more.

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Speaker 3: Like you're really aware of that?

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Speaker 1: So it psycho about that? Okay, cool, yeah, it just

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Speaker 1: it makes sense.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, no, So I was talking to him about

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Speaker 2: it like you do, you know, you talk to your

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Speaker 2: partner about stuff. And it wasn't him following me, but

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Speaker 2: he actually hired like a PI, like a private investigator

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Speaker 2: to basically research me and investigate me and follow me

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Speaker 2: and make sure.

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Speaker 1: That I was like, now, hold on, let's back up

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Speaker 1: a second here. Would there be any reason for him

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Speaker 1: to do this? Like I don't know are you are

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Speaker 1: you known to cheat? Are you? Has he caught you

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Speaker 1: with other men? Is there some sort of aspect of

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Speaker 1: your life that would lead him to need to know

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Speaker 1: what you're really actually doing because because he feels like

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Speaker 1: he doesn't or are you truly just out? You're free

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Speaker 1: and clear dating this man only this man, and he's

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Speaker 1: just that paranoid that he wanted to verify I am.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's it's really it's about him. And he even

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Speaker 2: said that he was like to answer your question, no,

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Speaker 2: like I haven't done anything. We had the passwords on

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Speaker 2: each other's phones, like we're both completely open books that

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Speaker 2: he got really badly burned in the past, he has

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Speaker 2: been cheated on before and like lied to, so he

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Speaker 2: felt like it was just a good thing to do

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Speaker 2: to just give himself peace of mind, which I thought

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Speaker 2: was kind of weird because again, we spend so much

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Speaker 2: time together when we're not at work, and like I said,

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Speaker 2: we have the passwords on each other's phones and everything,

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Speaker 2: and I've never used his because I don't I don't.

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Speaker 2: I know he's an honest person. And his thing was

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Speaker 2: we got in a big argument about it, obviously, because

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Speaker 2: I'm like, that's such an invasion of privacy and it

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Speaker 2: shows that you don't trust me and all that kind

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Speaker 2: of stuff. And his thing was, you know, when you're

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Speaker 2: getting ready to go out with somebody who always google

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Speaker 2: them or you try to find them on social and

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Speaker 2: figure out where you can find out, and this is

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Speaker 2: just a next logical step. That was his thing.

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Speaker 1: Somebody and then talking their Instagram or their socials or

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Speaker 1: or whatever is very different from having somebody fault. And

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Speaker 1: you know, if I'm being really honest, there's been a

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Speaker 1: time or two in my life where I'm certain that

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Speaker 1: series of lives before and it's like you start to

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Speaker 1: feel crazy about yourself because these people are they're gaslighting you,

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Speaker 1: or they're they're telling you that things aren't happening that

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Speaker 1: are definitely happening. And so you well, I've never done it,

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Speaker 1: you know. I've been like, man, I need this for me,

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Speaker 1: like I need I know that you're lying to me,

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Speaker 1: an answer like that? Well, that would be one way,

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Speaker 1: but and I'm not advising people to do that necessarily,

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Speaker 1: but it does happen in marriages all the time. It

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Speaker 1: infidelity and all kinds of other things. But that was

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Speaker 1: no reason to doubt you. He's caught you in in nothing. No,

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Speaker 1: you haven't lied to him, you haven't cheated on him,

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Speaker 1: you don't have a history of this. You're free and clear.

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Speaker 1: You don't have some ex husband or X you know

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Speaker 2: Paranoid basically, Yeah, because he got really badly burned and

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Speaker 2: he even admitted. First of all, he gets credit for

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Speaker 2: being honest with me and not just being like, oh,

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Speaker 2: you're just you know, overreacting, nobody's following or whatever. He

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Speaker 2: owned it as soon as I asked him about it,

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Speaker 2: and he was real honest about the fact that it

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Speaker 2: really had nothing to do with me. This happened to

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Speaker 2: him in the past.

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Speaker 3: Isn't me like this is?

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Speaker 1: This is weird and controlling and not normal at all.

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Speaker 1: And again, again I'm not even suggesting that even when

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Speaker 1: thing to do. But again I can also relate to

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Speaker 1: the feeling of feeling like I'm the crazy one because

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Speaker 1: things are happening that are definitely happening that are not right,

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Speaker 1: and it's like I need this for me, but that's

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Speaker 1: not what's happening here. So no, this is not okay.

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Speaker 1: You know, you didn't cheat on him. You're not bringing

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Speaker 1: him into some situation where he's exposed in some way

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Speaker 1: or anything else. I mean, he just the guy needs

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Speaker 1: to get over his own issues on it on his

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Speaker 1: resolve his trust issues. But having you followed his nuts

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Speaker 1: after a couple of months.

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Speaker 5: He's crazy, right, yes, Like, and I'm scared about what

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Speaker 5: he'll do if you break up with him, Like if

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Speaker 5: he's doing this and you're in a relationship with him,

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Speaker 5: what he's going to do when you leave him?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I never thought about that.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, this is a psycho kilo. You gotta get

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Speaker 5: up out it. And you got some tennis shoes.

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Speaker 1: Make sure there's no h You gotta run air tags

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Speaker 1: in there either, right, your tennis shoes, your car.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Anybody that loved me this much. I don't love me

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Speaker 5: enough to invest in a private investigator. It's not that

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Speaker 1: Got that man's password to his phone. I would start

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Speaker 1: if you've ever been cheated on before, then you know this.

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Speaker 1: You know the the compulsion to want to prove to

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Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you do it, and it certainly doesn't

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Speaker 1: on and this is only after a couple of months.

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Speaker 1: What happens after a couple of years exactly, Tarren, I

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Speaker 1: want to take some phone calls on this because obviously

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Speaker 1: I think we all feel the same way, but let's

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Speaker 1: see if anyone else feels differently. But so he says

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Speaker 2: Out and told me, and he said that it's done

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Speaker 2: and that he trusts me, and he just the fact

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Speaker 2: that I brought it up to him for some reason

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Speaker 2: made him feel more secure.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, well, he's ever going to tell you

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Speaker 2: When he said when he had gotten information that he needed,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that means.

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Speaker 3: But he said when he got the information that he needed,

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Speaker 2: To tell me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's another thing. Is I do kind of wonder

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Speaker 1: about the projection here too, Like why he's so parent,

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Speaker 1: He has no reason to be concerned whatsoever. Then why

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, you're just freaking me out.

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Speaker 1: Well, this whole thing is strange, Karen, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Have a good day and have the radio and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about you behind your back now. Oh gosh, okay,

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Speaker 1: okay bye Taren eight five five three five B. I

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Speaker 1: don't like it at all. Get the straps.

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Speaker 5: Four months in you you having me followed like, I

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Speaker 5: don't know what you've collected on me or my family

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Speaker 5: or my friends or my co workers.

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Speaker 1: Like this man is.

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Speaker 5: Out of order, absolutely a violation, and she needs to leave.

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Speaker 1: And if he can't trust her just because he can't

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Speaker 1: resolve those issues. Yes, and I assume she sounds like

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Speaker 1: But then at the same time, I think the only

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Speaker 1: or if they're into criminal activity. But this is this

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Speaker 1: na't been made for ten weeks or something. This is crazy.

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Speaker 1: Hey Don, Hi, you fighting crew out today? Good morning, don?

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Speaker 1: What do you think there?

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Speaker 2: Go? She gotta go?

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Speaker 6: Ye?

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Speaker 1: As I was telling that, I mean, what if what

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Speaker 1: if down the road she's.

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Speaker 2: Coming home from work and she's like, oh crap, I

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Speaker 2: forgot something at the grocery store.

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Speaker 4: So she ends up being quote unquote five minutes late.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's an innocent stock.

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Speaker 5: It's a PI right.

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Speaker 4: What are you buying there?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 2: But he's visiting the sense of another new person.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: Freddie needs to talk with somebody and get over those issues.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he needs to just go. Oh yeah you too,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. Glad you called.

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Speaker 6: Hi.

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Speaker 1: Robin, Hey, Brian, how are you? What do you think

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Speaker 1: stare go? Good morning listen.

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Speaker 4: I was just telling whoever answered the phone book. I

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Speaker 4: have a child, a grown child now with a true sociopath,

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Speaker 4: and this is the kind of behavior they exhibit. I

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Speaker 4: have been through things like this. I have been through

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Speaker 4: too much to even get into on the radio. Okay,

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Speaker 4: she needs to put on those shoes like I texted

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Speaker 4: in earlier, Kiki, and she needs to run. This is ship.

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Speaker 4: This is wrong. And if this is how he begins

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Speaker 4: a relationship, how's he going to end it? Like you said, it's.

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Speaker 1: So early for stuff like this. I mean, is it

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Speaker 4: And what's concerned me on her part is that she said,

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's nothing he did that was creepy or anything.

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Speaker 3: What right?

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Speaker 4: This is really creepy and this is really scary and

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Speaker 4: like I mean, a legit ti like she's not moving

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Speaker 4: I don't think he got burned by anybody. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Where he is? Okay, all right, fairness, that's right, Robin,

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Speaker 4: My god, Paboca day.

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Speaker 1: Guys, this text she has that wop dude ain't trying

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Speaker 1: to share? Got it period? Right? That's want? Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: a lot of second. I want to hear both sides.

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Speaker 1: know what's going on. Christy, good morning, good morning.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 1: What do you want to say? Is there?

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Speaker 2: Go?

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Speaker 1: Hello?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 1: What did you want to say? Christy? Go ahead?

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Speaker 6: Okay, go run get out of there. That's so creepy.

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Speaker 6: I've been with my boyfriend for three years. He's also

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Speaker 3: That's so creepy.

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Speaker 6: And also the fact that she had to bring it

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Speaker 6: I'm caught. You know, he didn't rarely bring that up.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he intended. He never would have told

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Speaker 1: her if she hadn't said something, No, he would.

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Speaker 6: He would have never told her you can. And that's

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Speaker 6: after four months dating. Like Kiki said, like, what is

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Speaker 6: like if he if she breaks up with him?

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Speaker 3: You know, this is this is psychopaths mentality.

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Speaker 1: It's not good. Chrissy, thank you so much. Have a

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Speaker 1: great day. Glad you called. Sarah. This happened to you. Sarah,

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Speaker 1: what happened? So?

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Speaker 3: I dated a guy and he had an AX and

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Speaker 3: he was obsessed with her, and even into our dating period,

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Speaker 3: he was driving around looking at her house with me

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Speaker 3: in a car. It was awful. Well, he started following

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Speaker 3: months later then went back stalking her. It just never stopped.

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Speaker 3: And part of it was he was a huge cheater.

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Speaker 3: So maybe he's been burned. Maybe he hasn't, but you're

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Speaker 1: I think so.

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Speaker 3: I think she needs to run because this person is

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Speaker 3: not going to change. Yeah, insecurity issues because they're doing

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Speaker 1: I mean, with no trigger in place. This dude's just

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Speaker 1: But Sarah, thank you and I'm sorry that happened.

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Speaker 5: You.

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Speaker 1: Have a good day you too. Somebody said, why I

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Speaker 1: hire a PI. Just do it yourself. Somebody, Yeah, just

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Speaker 1: just just doing yourself.