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Speaker 1: I am all in again.

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Speaker 2: I am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcasts one

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Speaker 1: of them productions. iHeartRadio, iHeartMedia, iHeart Podcast. Episode recap. We

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Speaker 1: are going to be discussing season one, episode sixteen, Starcross,

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Speaker 1: Lovers and Other Strangers with none other than Kaylin Bell.

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Speaker 1: And you may know her from The Bachelor and The

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Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise, but since then, she's built a strong

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Speaker 1: presence in the lifestyle and travel space, sharing her adventures

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Speaker 1: and insights with fans. But you might want to know

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Speaker 1: that she's also a huge Gilmore Girls fan, So we

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Speaker 1: like that. We like that very much. We're excited to

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Speaker 1: have her here to recap this episode and dive into

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Speaker 1: her love for stars. Tala, Welcome, Kaylin, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited to be here. I got a text

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Speaker 2: from one of your producers, Emma, while I was at

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Speaker 2: dinner with my husband, and I was like, you have

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Speaker 2: no idea how big of a deal this is. I'm

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Speaker 2: so excited.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're glad to have you. We're glad you're excited.

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Speaker 1: And what'd you think of the episode? What'd you think

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Speaker 1: of this episode.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's such a good episode. And I've seen Gilmore

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Speaker 2: Girls all the way through so many times, so I

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Speaker 2: was rewatching this one, and so much goes on, so

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's a perfect episode to chat about.

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Speaker 1: All right. Well, here's a little synopsis for you. And

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Speaker 1: the original air date was March eight, twenty twenty one. Ouch,

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Speaker 1: that was a long time ago, Caylen. I imagine you

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Speaker 1: were maybe still in diapers in two thousand and one.

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Speaker 2: I'm six, all right.

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Speaker 1: So Dean confesses his love to Rory. And isn't that

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Speaker 1: the remarkable thing about the Gilmore Girls fan base? It

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Speaker 1: just keeps getting younger and younger and younger. Every new

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Speaker 1: generation is discovering your testament to that wonderful to have

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Speaker 1: you on. All right, So Dean confesses his love to Rory,

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Speaker 1: leaving her unsure of how to respond. Quite stunned, was she? Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: Loralai indorsed and awkward dinner with her parents an unexpected

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Speaker 1: blind date, which was hilarious. Elsewhere in Stars Hollow, Luke

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Speaker 1: is caught off guard when in an old flame maybe

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Speaker 1: the flame resurfaces, stirring up emotions from his past. Leslie

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Speaker 1: Linka Gladder, who directed the pilot, directed this episode and

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Speaker 1: the Teleplane story. John Stevens, Linda Louise Guzik, and Jony

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Speaker 1: binder Weiss wrote it, Uh, what'd you think overall of

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Speaker 2: It was it was such a great episode to rewatch

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Speaker 2: because even from the very beginning, before the intro song

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Speaker 2: comes on, I was like, this is why I love

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Speaker 2: this show is because it's so wholesome, and I love

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Speaker 2: the small town feel where pretty much everyone's coming together

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Speaker 2: for every small event, no matter what it is, like

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Speaker 2: Miss Patty telling the story of stars Hollow. But then

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Speaker 2: you've got, you know, drama with Dean, and you've got

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Speaker 2: drama with Laura La and her parents, so you kind

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Speaker 2: of got a little bit of everything.

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Speaker 1: Well, we open up with Dean waiting at the bust

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Speaker 1: up Rory. Rory alters her Friday night dinner plans for Dean.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's a big discussion with Laura. I's yeah,

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Speaker 1: Laura has to get permission from Emily, of course, and

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Speaker 1: surprisingly Emily agrees to it without any kind of stress

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Speaker 1: and then provides for some nice comedy when more license

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Speaker 1: and Luria's going to need me to know, I'll expect

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Speaker 1: you at seven, thanks by right. And I thought her

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Speaker 1: particularly a strong episode for Lauren Graham in terms of

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Speaker 1: she got a lot of laughs out of me. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I just I just enjoyed watching her try to navigate

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Speaker 1: Strange guy. It was so good, wasn't it. I Mean,

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Speaker 1: that's like something you would go back and watch and

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Speaker 1: was doing. And testament to all those people they're straight

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Speaker 1: great comedy, great comedy.

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Speaker 2: The actor who played Chase, he did such a great

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Speaker 2: job at like the weirdo aspect saying what shall we like?

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Speaker 2: He was just so awkward and he's like no, no, Lorelai, no, no.

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Speaker 1: He was. He was so that breed, he really was.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about privilege, wo wow, yes, dripping

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Speaker 1: sixty six with Tito Plente. You know, there's always a

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Speaker 1: singer from right from our pop culture expert Amy Sharn

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Speaker 1: Pelatino and her husband that they throw in a singer.

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Speaker 1: So that shows the quirkiness of stars Hollow. Now the

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Speaker 1: many funny gags did did Lauren do with the coffee cup? Oh?

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Speaker 1: outside in one of the planters, Emily's gonna find it

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Speaker 1: and give her hell right, So what she gonna do?

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Speaker 1: So she knows she can't do that, sticks it in

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Speaker 2: Do you know how much of that was improv and

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Speaker 2: how much was scripted? I don't Was there a lot

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Speaker 1: Really? Absolutely none? Oh wow, No, I'm sure that was scripted.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing. There's nothing improved. I mean from my experience

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Speaker 2: It just like speaks to the writing and the quippiness

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It really wasn't often when somebody would stop and say,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't it be better if I said no, it's just

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Speaker 1: it really didn't happen because it was just such you know,

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Speaker 2: That's fun because as a fan, I kind of thought

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Speaker 2: you guys just had this amazing relationship where you would

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the writing. Yeah, it's there, it's on the page.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you know, we had this dialogue coach

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Speaker 1: and it's just fun. It's fun to be in that

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Speaker 2: I was thinking while rewatching, I mean, i've again, I've

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Speaker 2: seen it so many times, but I rewatch like nineties

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Speaker 2: so unbelievably cringey, and this show is so timeless in

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Speaker 2: so many ways, Like I don't feel like there's any

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Speaker 2: Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't feel like there's

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Speaker 1: There are a couple of scenes that don't that that

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Speaker 1: so smart. Yes, it's just so smart. It's just such

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even like the wholesome aspect, I don't feel like

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Speaker 2: It's just such a feel good show. It's so wholesome.

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Speaker 1: You love, right, But it's it's it's but there's this

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Speaker 1: it's melded. It's like this hybrid wholesome small town show,

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Speaker 1: we have we have Rory. Right. Have you ever been

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Speaker 2: My gosh, I think I was the dean when I

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Speaker 2: And Rory's like, I had no idea, you know.

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Speaker 1: Right, So we we go to the junk yard. They

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Speaker 1: I mean, what is he building me a Rolls Royce?

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Speaker 1: of cool cars actually, eight great little cars to tute

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Speaker 1: And then he just says it, man, and it's like

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Speaker 1: to ruin the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Don't do it.

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Speaker 1: Don't do it. Keep your mouth showed, buddy. Uh But

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Speaker 1: he you know, he's he's a lovely guy, right, he's

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Speaker 1: turned into uh, you know that they knocked the the

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Speaker 1: in Star's Hall, he's kind of getting into the flow

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Speaker 2: No? Again, I think I was just so eager for

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Speaker 2: just like you.

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Speaker 1: Were the dean.

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Speaker 2: I was the dean, you were the dean. Yeah. But

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Speaker 1: found I mean it really crashed down. That would have

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Speaker 1: hurt her. I mean it could have killed her if

430
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 1: it hit her in the head, right, It would have

431
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 1: hit her in her head, and it was that's a

432
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: heavy thing. Why do you think they did that? Why

433
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: do you think the writers did that? Because that was

434
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: a scary moment, right, And do we in this show

435
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: do we want to feel like that? I mean that

436
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 1: this isn't a show that deals with death. I mean

437
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: every once in a while, you know, we got a

438
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: little Richard in the hospital thing. So they deal with

439
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: it in a human way, but in an accidental way

440
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: like that, right, And.

441
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 2: Was it like because it's an episode about love and

442
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 2: Laura Lai is just surrounded by people in love. Everywhere

443
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 2: she turns, everyone's in love. And then her mom puts

444
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 2: her on this blind date without her knowing, and she's

445
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 2: having these potential feelings about Luke. She's having these questioning

446
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 2: about Max. So is it just like kind of struck

447
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 2: her like I don't want to die alone? Or is

448
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 2: that too deep?

449
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't maybe, But what kind of

450
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: a mood was she was? She was in a Luke mood, right,

451
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: She wanted it, she was she was in her mood

452
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 1: to go to the diner and just rant.

453
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 2: A little bit because she just saw Suky, right, and

454
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 2: then she just it's.

455
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: Like it's like love, love, love, let me get out

456
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: of this. And then boom almost hit by that star,

457
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: that falling star. Well, that was an interesting moment for me. Yeah,

458
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't normally see that on this show.

459
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: But all right, let's talk about Rachel a little bit.

460
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: What do you think of this? You like them together?

461
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 1: You think this is a do you hate this? As

462
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: a fan? Is this like?

463
00:25:58,680 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: Is this is this.

464
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: April level April Nardini level cringe for the fans?

465
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: Rachel April for me was just like, come on, we're

466
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 2: so close. We're still in the beginning stages. And what

467
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 2: I do appreciate about the writers and this show is

468
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 2: they didn't give us what we wanted, Like we really

469
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 2: have to work for it. We really have to wait

470
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 2: a while for what we want. But I think with

471
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 2: every relationship, we're just proven. We're shown, like Laura Lai

472
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 2: and Luke are meant to be together. So you have

473
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 2: Rachel and Luke talking, they have some banter, it's fine,

474
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 2: and then the second Rachel walks away, Laura LII sits

475
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: down and it's just so comfortable and it exudes happiness,

476
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 2: like they bring out the best in each other. So

477
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 2: it's you're working for it, you're working towards it, and

478
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 2: you're aware the show.

479
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: These episodes I like a baseball game on a Saturday afternoon,

480
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 1: it's ninety degrees and in the old days before all

481
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: these rules and timers and clocks that were applied to

482
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: the sport, where it just unfolds and it's going to

483
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: unfold the way it unfolds and nobody's in a rush.

484
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: I like that even it really just feels like and

485
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the reasons fans love it

486
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 1: so much, is because they know they can relax inside

487
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: this world, that there ain't no rush get into anything,

488
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: even though you know, Laura I seems to be rushing

489
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: around all over the place. The pace, the overall pace

490
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: of this show contradicts her personality, which is it creates

491
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: a wonderful tension, and it's really a relaxing, very pleasant

492
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: sit you know, like if you just want to go

493
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: watch a baseball game, because man, sometimes that stuff takes forever.

494
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 1: And it's okay because it's a Saturday afternoon and you're

495
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: watching a baseball game, right and you don't know what's

496
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: going to happen, and anything can happen, all right. Have

497
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: you ever seen Luke so flustered?

498
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: No? And I loved it. It's the best totally caught

499
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 2: off guard.

500
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: Well, they must have. He must have really gone through

501
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: something there.

502
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: Huh yeah, and we got we got little teasers of

503
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: it with Laura II wearing that sweater earlier in the season.

504
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: But right, exactly right, right right. Do you think there's

505
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: any type of tension between Rachel and Laura I did

506
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: you sense anything?

507
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 2: No? Not really, And even Rachel asks Luke up front

508
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: and she's she's like, well, let me know, like is

509
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 2: this is there something happening here or is there something

510
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 2: happening there? And Luke's honest with her, He's like, I

511
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 2: think maybe sometimes, but I don't know. And another thing

512
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 2: I love about this show is we're not really pitting

513
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: women against women, which we often see, especially in this time.

514
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 2: You know, it's like, do I really really appreciated that?

515
00:28:52,240 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah, that's a good point. Excellent point. All right, So,

516
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: you know, I know we're jumping around a little bit,

517
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: but there's some important tidbits. You know. We see we

518
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: see Laurel I missus Max. We see Lane coming over

519
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: to see Rory before her date with Dean, before that

520
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: whole thing blows up. And I really thought that that

521
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 1: was a great use of Lane's character as a supportive friend,

522
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: as funny, as bubbly as you know, harangued by her

523
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: mother to go on another blind date with somebody who's

524
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: a chiropractor and not a doctor because she really doesn't

525
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: maybe she lowered her expectations for her own daughter. At

526
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: this point, she's a lost cause. So it'll just like

527
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: it was funny. It didn't lean on on the you know,

528
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: having sympathy for poor Lane. They didn't play into that.

529
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: It was just more of the comedic aspects of it,

530
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: which is really the soul of comedy, right because it

531
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: has to be so real and it is with her

532
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: and the relentless matchmaking style and missus Kim is wont

533
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: to do all right, now we're let's let's let's and

534
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: we're in the spirit of jumping around. We meet Chase

535
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: Bradford at at the dinner, Lorelai comes in. Uh, Richard

536
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: isn't terribly interested in talking to her. He's reading the paper.

537
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: She gets a drink. She's extremely funny through this entire

538
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,959
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think anybody plays discomfort better. I

539
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: mean that whole spiel about the the glass little miniature

540
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: class figurine bunnies, yes, and that of course she dropped

541
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: them in the perfect way. And I mean it just hysterical.

542
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: She's hysterical.

543
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: She's so funny, and I almost think like her and

544
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 2: Roy are so good together. But it's funny to see

545
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: her away from Rory in that setting because it's even

546
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 2: funnier somehow.

547
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: It kind of is, oh my gosh. And one of

548
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: my favorite episodes so far is the episode where she

549
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: smells snow yeah, and because she's alone, she's pretty much

550
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: by herself through going through that episode with no conflict

551
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: and she and it's not that it's funny per se, right,

552
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: but it's it's just it's just like going through this

553
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: episode with Laurel I and it's just such a treat anyway. Uh,

554
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: Then we get the big surprise that Emily has, unbeknownst

555
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: to anyone, set laurelay up on a blind date and

556
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: here comes Chase Bradford. He shows up and he adores children.

557
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 2: Away, little kids.

558
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: They're right away.

559
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 3: And Laura just gives a look to Emily like come on,

560
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 3: And you know, Chase is the kind of guy who

561
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: just sort of drones on and on about his job

562
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 3: and he's he's.

563
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: Just extremely boring and condescending and snooty and richistic very much.

564
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: So yeah right, I mean you can just tell yeah, man,

565
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: imagine life with that Laurelize Like wow, it's like and

566
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: this really shows, I mean, if there isn't, if there

567
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: isn't this chasm between you know, Laurlized perspective on life

568
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: and how she wants to live her life in Emily's

569
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: now we really see it between Chase and laurel I

570
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,959
Speaker 1: can because I mean you can kind of imagine them

571
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: as mother and daughter and they you know, there's some

572
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: similarities there, but there are no similarities between laurel I

573
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: and Chase. I mean there's just not even a chance

574
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: these two.

575
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: Are getting together, right, no chance.

576
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: And she just handles these dinner table scene was hysterical

577
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: and she gets up and she says, Mom, can I

578
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: talk to you in the conversation in the kitchen and

579
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: it's like, what are you crazy? What are you thinking about?

580
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: My favorite is Richard Like, are you crazy? I'm not

581
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: having more than one drink? And then he's like give

582
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: me a drink, right, I'm going to need to.

583
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: Just hilarious, great stuff. It really is just sort of

584
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: like a really good film. The writing, the acting, This

585
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: is really like top of the line Hollywood film acting.

586
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: You know, it's just so good. Obviously, Emily has eight

587
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: out outdated ideas of what should look like for laural

588
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: I and her good old dad helps her escape the house,

589
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: and that's a good dad. So the question is from

590
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:56,719
Speaker 1: the producers, would I do that for my daughter? Well,

591
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: I don't have a daughter. I have a son, and

592
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:06,239
Speaker 1: life gets you know, life can get complicated as your

593
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: children get older. But I would like to say no,

594
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: I would never be that out of tune with my

595
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: own child that I would even be in a situation

596
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: like that. But you know, you never know, right, Yeah,

597
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: you never know. But yeah, I would definitely do what

598
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: Richard did I for my son, or if I had

599
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: a daughter, Yeah, I'd help her escape a situation like that,

600
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: Like what else can you do? Force her downstairs?

601
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 3: Right?

602
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: I'm trying to imagine anyway that that could happen with

603
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: your son. Maybe he goes on a meet someone on

604
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: a dating app and then needs an escape, so he's like, Dad,

605
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: help me.

606
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 1: But I really think that's the point of the entire scene.

607
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: I mean, we get all this wonderful stuff, all of

608
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: this disconnection and comedy and tension between everybody and that

609
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: scene Chase and the parents and Laura. I I think

610
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: the whole point of the scene was to set up

611
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: that moment between mother and daughter, father and daughter where

612
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: he allows her to escape, doesn't write her out, and

613
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 1: then has that moment of regret.

614
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 4: What could which is it?

615
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: Maybe I could have been a better dad, Yeah, you know, right,

616
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: maybe back then I should have been more like I

617
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: am now and defend my.

618
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: Daughter more understanding, Yeah, you know. And the way that

619
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 2: it arcd from him not even paying attention to her

620
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: being in the newspaper to then, you know, showing a

621
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 2: little bit of love to her was special.

622
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: That was a beautiful That was a really really rich

623
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: moment in the entire storytelling so far. It was just beautiful. Yeah,

624
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: God writing.

625
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: I think we needed that, like, we needed that empathy

626
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 2: from one of the parents, you know, because Rory gets

627
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 2: all the love from the grandparents, and we just needed

628
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 2: Loralai to have a little bit of love.

629
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: Right. But it's such a just a brief moment, and

630
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: it was so fraught with meaning. It was so filled

631
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: with a lifetime of disappointment and what could have been

632
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: and and regret. He was even questioning his own choices

633
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: back then and how he could why wasn't he a

634
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: better father? It was just such a moment. Yeah, I

635
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know a lot of actors that

636
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 1: could pull that off. That's why he was so special.

637
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: They gave him. He made that moment full man.

638
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 2: And with this show, there's just so many small moments.

639
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: If you like, turn your head away, you'll miss it.

640
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 2: And I love that.

641
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: This is why, this is why people keep rewatching it,

642
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: because every single frame is filled with all of these details.

643
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

644
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 1: It's just just an amazing show. Okay, so Dean again,

645
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: we're jumping around. I really enjoyed the dinner scene. Yes,

646
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: it was a great setup, you know, everything so hard. Oh,

647
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: he was just man spending a lot of dough on that.

648
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: Yes, I know where did he get that money?

649
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: He's a working man, right, It's true.

650
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 2: He must have been saving up.

651
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Speaker 1: Doesn't he He works, right, he works at those yeah,

652
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: you know, and he's being you know, very charmingly awkward,

653
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: and you know it's just really really something. Then he

654
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: takes her to the salvage yard and the whole thing

655
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: blows up with the with the ill advised I love you. Yes,

656
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: one in doubt, shut up right right, that's my dad's

657
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: its son. One in doubt. Don't say anything.

658
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: That's great advice.

659
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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's hop over to the bonfire. H looks

660
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: like Suki and Jackson are are enjoying each other. That's

661
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: that's very sweet stuff.

662
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 2: I really loved this scene where no one's speaking. It's

663
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 2: just the Troubadour playing, which I wish he lasted longer, honestly,

664
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Speaker 2: but they set it up so perfectly where nobody's speaking.

665
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 2: Laura Lai walks by, she looks at Suki and Jackson,

666
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: and then I feel after that there's like a quick

667
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 2: combo with Suki and Jackson. Then we moved to Rachel

668
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: taking photos of them, and then you see Lane somberly

669
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 2: walking by with her date and the parents following. It

670
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 2: was it flowed perfectly, like you got everything you needed.

671
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: It's just so good. Rachel's taking pictures of the bonfire.

672
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: She sits next to Luke. They have their little conversation,

673
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: pretty heavy conversation right away, so we see that this

674
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: is a deep and meaningful relationship for both of them.

675
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: It went awry for some unknown reason. While she just

676
00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 1: laughed he's heartbroken, but he seems pretty open about giving

677
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: it another shot. So that's the feeling I'm getting, and

678
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: I think she is too. That's why she came back,

679
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: just to sort of take the temperature of the room.

680
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: So anyway, she goes off to get some Founder's Day punch, right,

681
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: Isn't that what she was getting? Founder's Day punch? The

682
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: ever popular Founder's Day punch?

683
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: Is that Miss Patty's punch that made everyone drunk when

684
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: Rory was in college.

685
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: I believe it was, Yeah, I believe it was. I

686
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: could be wrong, but I believe it was, yes. And

687
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: you know, she was asking Luke what's the deal with

688
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: Laurelai this kind of thing. So now we see Luke

689
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: getting a little attention and we haven't seen him like

690
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: this really before, and he doesn't really know if he

691
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: wants her to stay, but I think he kind of does, yeah,

692
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: which further ratches up the tension between Luke and Laureli

693
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: because I think the audience is going, hey, you know,

694
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Speaker 1: I want to get back on that train. Let's let's

695
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: see where that goes. But we're gonna we're gonna take

696
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 1: a little detour here.

697
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 2: But I wonder how Luke would have been if Laura

698
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: Lai showed him that attention he needed, or like leaned

699
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: in a little bit more, if he would have still

700
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 2: picked Rachel, or if he would have been like, oh,

701
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 2: I want to explore this instead.

702
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: That's an interesting point. I don't know what would have.

703
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: Done, because I mean to the audience where like he

704
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 2: loves her, he loves Laura Lai, but Rachel was the

705
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 2: great love of his life. So it's kind of tricky.

706
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Speaker 1: M all right. So Laura I calls Max Medina we're

707
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: at home now, But before she leaves a message, Rory

708
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: walks in and says, with that look on her face, right,

709
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 1: you can read you can read the expression pretty pretty accurately.

710
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: It says they they broke up, Dean and Dean and

711
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: Rory broke up, and Mom just hugs her and uh,

712
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: let me let me let me ask you this. Why

713
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: do you think Laurel is calling Max? Do you see

714
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: it as a step forward for her or a step back?

715
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 2: I see it as a response to Luke, Like she

716
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 2: knows that Luke is pursuing Rachel, and she doesn't want

717
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,959
Speaker 2: to keep feeling alone, so she's calling Max. But also

718
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: in that same sense she's been thinking about them all episode,

719
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 2: so it could be viewed as a step forward.

720
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Speaker 1: Well, all in all, wonderful episode, so good, really really wonderful.

721
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about before we go. We

722
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: got a couple of minutes here about what you're doing now,

723
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: your lifestyle and travel brands. You're building up this sort

724
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: of lifestyle situation for yourself. Tell us about it.

725
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, my husband, my husband's name is Dean, which

726
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 2: I love. Ties in with the show. We moved to Colorado.

727
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 2: We're outside of Aspen and just it's the best being

728
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 2: a achel that's my magic place. Oh my gosh, it

729
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: is so magical. We wake up to like thirty elk

730
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: in our yard, yes, deer and oh it's it's the best.

731
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 2: So still traveling a bit, but we're also trying to

732
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 2: have kids, so we're cutting back a little bit and

733
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: trying to focus on that. But life is fun in Colorado.

734
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Speaker 2: I love it.

735
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: You big skier.

736
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: This is my fourth season. My husband has been skiing

737
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 2: since he was two, so he's trying to teach me,

738
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 2: but it's it's hard.

739
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Speaker 1: As he does he where does he take it? Does

740
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: he take you to Ajax or buttermilk? I hope buttermilk.

741
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 2: I love buttermilk. Buttermilk or snow Mass. He says, I'm

742
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: not good enough for Ajax or Aspen Mountain yet, so

743
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: we'll see.

744
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ajax is steep and it's too.

745
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 2: Much of a party scene too. I just I like buttermilk,

746
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 2: but well.

747
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, buttermilk is yeah.

748
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: Uh, it's just I actually ran into j Lo there

749
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 2: two weeks ago and I was like, you're at our

750
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 2: local mountain.

751
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: That's surprising, right, Well, everybody puts their kids in ski

752
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: school there.

753
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what she was. She was putting her son

754
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 2: in everybody.

755
00:42:55,480 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, such a great place. Four Mountain take your pick. Yeah,

756
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: you know, high Lands and Snowmouths. It's just such a

757
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: great place.

758
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: And we're just twenty minutes so we can like pop

759
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: in for lunch and come out. It's great.

760
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, perfect, it's perfect. Yeah. We've been going out there

761
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 1: for twenty five years. Yeah. Oh wow. We go every winter.

762
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: We spend as much time out there as we possibly

763
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: can go in summer too. They say, you know, the

764
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: winners will get you there, but the summers will keep

765
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: you there. Right.

766
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: Yes, we got married in the fall and we had

767
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 2: been out in the summer, and so after our wedding,

768
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: I was like, we're moving. I can't, I can't live

769
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: anywhere else.

770
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: Oh? Really, were you in La?

771
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: We were in La for a bit and then we

772
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 2: moved to Vegas to save money in taxes, right, and

773
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: then we moved here. Good, it's good for you, best

774
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 2: place in the world.

775
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: Good for you. And you don't have any issues like

776
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: with mud season or or anything like that.

777
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 2: No, we're kind of high up the mountain, but not

778
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: in a scary way, right, so we feel pretty protected

779
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 2: the only air of fires.

780
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right. Well but anyway,

781
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: so tell us tell us a little bit more about

782
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: your your lifestyle, Bran, How are you building that up

783
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: through social media? You're traveling a lot, You're doing the videos,

784
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: You're doing sponsorships, all that kind of thing.

785
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 2: A lot of social media. A lot of time is

786
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 2: spent behind my laptop even when we are traveling, just editing.

787
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 2: And we used to have a podcast with iHeart that

788
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 2: is no longer but hopefully starting a new one soon

789
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 2: with just my husband and I.

790
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: Okay, but yeah, just.

791
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 2: Just fun random things here and there. But right now

792
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 2: our main focus is on children, so figuring out it's

793
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: it's taken a long time. We've been trying for six months,

794
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 2: so just uh.

795
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: Hanging to your kids, hang in there, It'll happen. Yeah.

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00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: It's weird when you have that intent, you know, sometimes

797
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: take a while. And it's also interesting that you know

798
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: when you're not thinking about all of.

799
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: A sudden bo that's what Web says. So I'm like,

800
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 2: let's take the pressure.

801
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: Off, right right, right, it'll happen. Yeah, Well, where can

802
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: people find you? What's your Instagram handle? So people go

803
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: go check out your your Instagram page.

804
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, people can find me on at Kailan Bell just

805
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 2: my first name and last name. I love to read.

806
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: I pretty much post a lot about books and shows

807
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 2: that I love, like Gilmore Girls. So yeah, Kaalan Bell

808
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: on all platforms.

809
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: Live in the Dream out in Colorado out one of

810
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: the most beautiful spots on the planet. Yeah, I mean

811
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 1: that is that is such a beautiful place out there.

812
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: The people that originally discovered that it was an old

813
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: silver mining town, you know, they really knew what they

814
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 1: were doing when they when they said let's turn this

815
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: into a ski resort. I mean, you get to the top.

816
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: Have you been to the top of HX and seeing

817
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: maroon bells in a sunny day. Oh yes, take your

818
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: breath away.

819
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 2: It's amazing.

820
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: It is. It is an amazing place. It never gets old,

821
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: it doesn't, it doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Man.

823
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 1: I want to I want to get there. I'm gonna

824
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: come there tomorrow.

825
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: Oh when do you come? Let us know. I feel

826
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Speaker 2: like you and my husband would hit it off.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, he can ski his ass off. Huh yes, good,

828
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,919
Speaker 1: then he can hang with us. Yeah, because I ski

829
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: with locals and I'm like, okay, here we go.

830
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 2: Oh he'll take you back country?

831
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I know these are serious dudes. Man.

832
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: It's like these are serious backcountry people.

833
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 2: Oh that's awesome.

834
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: I My entire workout is geared toward keeping up with

835
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: these guys when I get out there.

836
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 2: Just a lot of ski conditioning. That's awesome.

837
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: It's like the pressure's on because man, they'll leave you behind.

838
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, you better keep up. Oh yeah,

839
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 1: and they go man, And it's scary. Yes, it's really scary.

840
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: But anyway, lovely chatting with you, Good luck with everything.

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00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: Thank you, and uh yeah, let's hope you get another

842
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: I hope you get a podcast. You know that'd be

843
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: fair you know.

844
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, fun job you have.

845
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: It's not bad. It's not bad, Kaylin Bell. Thank you

846
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: so much for your time and for breaking it down

847
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Speaker 1: with us. Okay, take care of everybody out there. Thanks

848
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Speaker 1: for download and remember where you lead, we will follow.

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Speaker 4: Stay safe everyone

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