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Speaker 1: This is the Almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hello, everyone, welcome to the Almost Famous podcast. This is

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Speaker 2: not Ben nor Ashley. I'm Caitlyn Bell and I am

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Speaker 2: taking over for Ben and Ashley. We are in NAPO

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Speaker 2: with iHeart and we're here for Live in the Vineyard

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Speaker 2: with a bunch of other Bachelor Nation members, including Katie

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Speaker 2: and Zach.

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Speaker 3: Welcome. Hello, Hello there.

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Speaker 2: Great to have you guys, Yeah on my podcast. I'm

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Speaker 2: excited to chat about weddings and your lives and everything

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Speaker 2: you guys are up to.

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Speaker 3: Same.

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Speaker 2: Okay, wait, I'm sure all of your followers know this,

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Speaker 2: but I don't particularly know this. Where are you guys

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Speaker 2: living right now?

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Speaker 4: We're in Austin, Texas, and we've been in Austin since

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Speaker 4: we wrapped up everything with the show ever since.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like that's permanent.

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Speaker 3: For now?

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Speaker 1: I think we will definitely like raise our first kid

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Speaker 1: in Texas and kind of just like feel it out

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Speaker 1: from there. But I know, I think we were telling

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Speaker 1: some of Bachelor Nation, or at least on my platform,

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Speaker 1: that we were thinking about moving to the Carolinas, whether

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Speaker 1: it was like north or South, but that hurricane came

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Speaker 1: through and kind of just like made me like really

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Speaker 1: iffy about it.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, what he laughed about.

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Speaker 4: No, nothing, because we we were like kind of dead

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Speaker 4: set on North Carolina, both of us have never been

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Speaker 4: before and were it just sounds and feels right. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and then you know, things change and we're like, no,

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Speaker 4: we're sticking in Austin. We're gonna buy here, we can

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Speaker 4: see a future here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it just felt good and we were like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: at least me, you already had a community, but I

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Speaker 1: was like building like friendships and it just finally felt good.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and it's yeah, I think Texas is great

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Speaker 1: for now, but who knows what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay. I lived in North Carolina for

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Speaker 2: a bit. It is a beautiful state.

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Speaker 3: I hear, I hear.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing that oh in the mountains, you get the season,

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Speaker 3: To my home, like my family in Canada.

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Speaker 1: So that's why many reasons why we gravitated towards that.

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Speaker 1: But I think right now we're just kind of center

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Speaker 2: And yeah, okay, I have a question before I get

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Speaker 2: into the list of questions I have. I was talking

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Speaker 2: about this with a friend, what natural disaster do you

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Speaker 2: mall you first, Well, there's earthquakes, fires, What else are.

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Speaker 3: Uh, hurricanes, hurricane.

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Speaker 4: Lava, lava la?

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, what do we think we could like?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 2: Everyone has to pick one, you know, because like North

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Speaker 1: Well, I just feel like that the least fatal would

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Speaker 4: Hmm, yeah, so earthquakes. I was gonna say earthquakes by far,

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Speaker 4: because like in California, I grew up in California, tons

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Speaker 4: Probably the worst would be lava because.

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Speaker 4: Why would you say that?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So basically because it's like it's a volcano erupting,

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Speaker 1: that's a natural disaster, which leads to lava, so.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so we take it back volcano eruption, okay with lava.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you have to pick one. You have to

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Speaker 2: pick one natural disaster and that's what you're sticking with

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Speaker 2: that we can live through. Yeah, and it is it earthquakes?

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Speaker 3: I feel like that's the least fatal, right or do

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Speaker 4: We're not living through lava. Earth takes a great one

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Speaker 2: So okay, this settles it. North Carolina or California for

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Speaker 1: So you're saying we should move to California because they

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Speaker 3: Guys, we're moving. It's a good game.

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Speaker 2: Where should we move? You know?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So let's chat about weddings. Do you guys have

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Speaker 2: a wedding update? Are you still eloping?

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Speaker 3: We are still eloping?

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Speaker 2: How small do you think it would be with an elopement? Literally,

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Speaker 2: there is in people that's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very intimate, very personal, and that's it just fits

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Speaker 3: And I feel like, you know, we.

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Speaker 1: Had the big contract, we had the big wedding venue,

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Speaker 1: So we just kind of like looked at each other

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Speaker 1: we ended up deciding on a looping And honestly, we

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Speaker 1: when did we think of the date, Like back in January,

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Speaker 3: This makes sense? And we're like, yeah, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, And then it all just kind of fell

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Speaker 2: Oh I can imagine. Would it be abroad or in

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Speaker 2: Austin nice, We're staying in Austin, amazing. So you have

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Speaker 2: a date, you have a location.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like thirty minutes away from our home. Our

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Speaker 2: You guys are very smart someone who got mad a

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Speaker 3: That we keep hearing that it was a great day.

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Speaker 2: But it's just the cost, doesn't it's it's it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: But I do want to know who had more opinions

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Speaker 1: Doak is so amazing. He was like, baby, if you

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Speaker 1: want the big wedding, let's do it. If you want

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Speaker 1: But I think, yeah, when it at the end of

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Speaker 1: and just it's our vibe and we're so like chill

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Speaker 1: this is just perfect. For us, and we're not telling

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Speaker 2: I think that's why people are so drawn to you guys,

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Speaker 2: feel very real and natural and like natural as a

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that. We get that a lot too, and

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Speaker 3: it's such a huge compliment. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Like one thing like we always like focus on

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Speaker 4: You never know like when it's gonna change, but like

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Speaker 4: and that kind of transpired into like how we view

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like the healthiest approach that you can have.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm just so happy for you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate that. We're so excited.

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Speaker 1: Like literally every day I'll look at him and I'll

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Speaker 3: And I'm not even I'm not even lying. I literally

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Speaker 1: Every time I look at him, I just like see

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Speaker 3: I just have to tell him, like, I cannot wait

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Speaker 4: Honestly, the best feeling when you're like, I'm marrying my

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: And it's been two years, right, two and a half

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Speaker 2: and a half and a half years. That's a really

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Speaker 4: Yeah, living together and all that good stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're buying our first home this year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to start house hunting. Audit to the

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Speaker 1: list of things.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Wedding planning and house hunting is a lot on your plate.

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Speaker 3: But that's crazy. Yeah, oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay back to the wedding. Are there any non

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Speaker 2: negotiables for the wedding, Yeah, for either of.

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Speaker 4: You, like things that need to happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like I must have this or I can't have this,

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Speaker 2: or I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, Okay, not really, because like we were originally gonna

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Speaker 1: We were gonna go inside the paper and just like maybe.

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Speaker 3: Do like a family like some photos.

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Speaker 1: Here and there, and then go for dinner. And then

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Speaker 1: my mom was like, hey, have you thought about a

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Speaker 3: I was like no, no, no. And literally it wasn't

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Speaker 1: To say, four or three weeks ago where I was like,

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Speaker 1: And then it's kind of transpired into something bigger. But

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Speaker 4: We're in a good like photographer and videographer just like

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Speaker 4: back on that. Yeah, that isn't really important.

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Speaker 4: That's really something. So yeah, house wedding.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Ever, the way that you guys talk about marriage

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Speaker 1: Oh we are, And it's cause we're not, like you

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Speaker 4: And like that's to say, like we did meet with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so happy Dean isn't here. When you guys

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Speaker 3: Because he'd be.

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Speaker 2: Like, we should have eloped.

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Speaker 3: This sounds so beautiful. Honestly, I'm really happy for you guys.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy how much money goes into that wedding industry.

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Speaker 3: It's insane.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's really disgusting, and you guys are so smart.

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Speaker 2: But seriously, like, I really do mean it. The way

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Speaker 2: that you guys speak about this, it's so beautiful and

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Speaker 2: that's what marriage should be and that's what a wedding

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you. We're so excited, and.

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys for coming on the Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 2: without Ben and Ashley. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Of course, thanks for having us