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Speaker 2: You want to listen to the grib.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh no, it's outside music. I mean I was

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just seting, ready to give the walk

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Speaker 4: no worrdning uh well be loving you to seventy.

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Speaker 3: Baby man could stoo foo less had twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to a new episode of the new Rory and

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Speaker 1: Mall podcast.

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Speaker 4: I am all, I'm Rory, so was loud. It's projecting

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Speaker 4: not as good.

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Speaker 1: I like it. You said like you're you're awake.

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Speaker 4: You're ready, Yeah, ready to tour season. It's May. It's

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Speaker 4: gonna be May. I saw the memes all last night.

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Speaker 4: I'm waiting for your right. No, I can wait. I

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Speaker 4: hate that one and I hate May the fourth be

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Speaker 4: with you. It's give me the worst fucking week ever.

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Speaker 1: Four who I want to know, like everybody, the faces

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Speaker 1: of the people that created that.

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Speaker 4: You're looking at four of them right now.

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Speaker 2: We're definitely making a yea is definitely gonna say that.

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Speaker 2: We're definitely making a Yoda Rory made the Fourth be

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Speaker 2: with you?

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Speaker 1: That's just fucking stupid.

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Speaker 4: I think that started around when I was like twenty

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Speaker 4: be with you. People have known my whole life, Like,

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Speaker 4: saying happy birthday, need a fourth be with you?

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Speaker 3: They probably forgot it was your birthday?

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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 2: Is it on site with George Lucas? Like, are you

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 4: Just as fans just as could following me and Benner.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling though your birthday's coming up? With No?

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Speaker 1: I mean you know your birthday's coming up. You know, men,

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Speaker 1: as we get older, we get like birthday depression. Birthday

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Speaker 1: depression is a real thing a lot. I mean women too,

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Speaker 1: But as men get older, like you know, man, we

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Speaker 4: We just drank our feelings In a submission, and then

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Speaker 1: Left the crumbs all year, Beth.

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Speaker 4: It's always the husband of Beth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all, yeah, I've been leaving crumbs with my depression

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Speaker 4: I don't like the pressure of the question what do

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Speaker 4: And I also don't like right here if you really

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Speaker 4: it could possibly ruin my day. If I ruin my day,

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Speaker 4: that falls on me. I don't want to resent you

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Speaker 1: How do you feel as a white man in America?

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Speaker 1: That's delightful, Just gonna let you know. It's a beautiful time. Draw.

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Speaker 1: But you're now a year older? Mm hmm. How do

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Speaker 1: I'm really getting up there in age Because I could

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Speaker 1: At twenty five, you feel like you was getting Well,

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Speaker 4: Age like you know, I'm aging, okay. I mean I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But turning thirty actually was the opposite for me

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Speaker 4: Once I hit thirty, I was like, thirty is not

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Speaker 4: I just want to let you know. I mean, my

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Speaker 4: my Jesus death year or Larry Bird.

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Speaker 1: It'll be thirty three like your Larry Bird French Lick

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Speaker 4: I felt more like, you know, CRUCIFIXI year.

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Speaker 1: We can go with Larry Broke either. Why do you

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Speaker 4: Grant Hill with a knee injury year?

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Speaker 1: That was a year on the Pistons. That was a

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Speaker 4: Thirty three is an interesting number, but I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure there's some angel. This is my year and

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Speaker 4: the sun is gonna set at three thirty three in Alaska?

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna get your palm red for your birthday? Eight?

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Speaker 4: That's such a weird specific thing. No, I didn't plan

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Speaker 4: what I did on my thirty third birty you sold

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I have like not fine, I

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Speaker 4: That was never like a day.

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Speaker 1: That's not for it. But birthdays men don't. Men don't

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Speaker 4: I don't have any not bad memories. I just don't,

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Speaker 1: It's not fun like that anymore. Speakers, you what you

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Speaker 4: Like what she wrangled up a bunch of hoes in

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Speaker 3: That was.

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Speaker 4: That was a blast.

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Speaker 1: That was But women, women, But women do that. Women

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Speaker 1: they have parties, even if it's something small. Guys we'll

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Speaker 1: Like I don't think guys don't really care about their birthday.

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Speaker 1: Weird when like men like celebrate their birthdays like big

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Speaker 2: Is that hip hop that's still the hip hop to

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Speaker 1: Is still out on that. Definitely a dude, nah, but

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Speaker 1: Oh no, we definitely have to pay for our own

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Speaker 3: I tried to throw Rory a birthday dinner and I

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Speaker 3: was like give it thing, like, are you gonna hand

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Speaker 1: She said, that's every woman says that.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna get a party bus hit myself like.

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Speaker 1: They said, it's thirty three thirty three hundred dollars, all right,

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Speaker 1: it's fifty people here.

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Speaker 2: Thirty three hundred because he's turning thirty three.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, at that point a woman would tell me like

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Speaker 1: Men, we don't get birthday gifts, we don't get birthday dinners.

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Speaker 1: We pay for everything. So yeah, just just hide out

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Speaker 1: You never got for your birthday?

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Speaker 4: Excuse me, got head for I've got a head on

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Speaker 4: my birth I'm fourteen years old, don't you can't?

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Speaker 1: Got? Is it bad to get a head for your Birthday's.

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Speaker 2: Not a birthday? Weird thing? It's just like that's just

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Speaker 4: You probably think pussy is a gift too, that's what

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Speaker 1: Pussy's a gift for Christmas? You do that? No, you

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Speaker 4: She wore she worked redlines today, the same. I really

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Speaker 4: don't mean this in a negative way, And please, I

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Speaker 1: I'm in a great place, you can't.

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Speaker 4: I just feel like if I say what I want

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Speaker 4: across very negative offensive and it may start a fight.

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Speaker 1: So you gotta let me.

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Speaker 3: You want us to leave you the funk alone?

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Speaker 4: What if everyone just left me alone for the day

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Speaker 4: and like let me sleep in.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's the greatest gift ever. And like I mean.

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Speaker 4: That, I love everyone I'm in a great place right now,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just really quiet. I got some of

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Speaker 1: of the best sleep ever Saturday. And I didn't know

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Speaker 1: why at first. Guess what it was your birthday? Your

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Speaker 4: But then when you say that, it's like, so you

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Speaker 4: don't want to celebrate your birthday with your loved ones,

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Speaker 4: Like non, I spend all my time with you.

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Speaker 1: All yeah, I'm not listen, I agree with you. I

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Speaker 1: didn't know that white men and black men would agree

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Speaker 4: It could change. It could change next year, the world.

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Speaker 1: This year.

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Speaker 4: I kind of feel like it would be nice for like,

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Speaker 4: all right, maybe just like six hours, maybe just six hours,

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Speaker 4: just like I could be in this house, especially without y'all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, wow, all right, sorry, with.

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Speaker 4: All this camera equipment and just like sit on this

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Speaker 3: Call cat though, Rory A call cat, because even if

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Speaker 4: They would not say his name. They just kept fucking

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Speaker 4: Tried to tie has No, he's with all that said.

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Speaker 4: That was probably the number one project that was being

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Speaker 4: Uh? Where do we want to start? We want to

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Speaker 1: Well, I thought before you get into it, it was

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not ready to raise money. It just

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Speaker 4: Off just the weekend. I think it served its purpose.

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Speaker 4: So what do you think the disconnect is with Jack?

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Speaker 4: I think I'm now seeing the same thing with my

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00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:24,200
Speaker 4: generation with Jack.

445
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Speaker 2: You answered the question yourself.

446
00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,840
Speaker 4: I think it's there's still mature content on here as well, though,

447
00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,120
Speaker 4: I I mean, I don't know how far in age

448
00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,199
Speaker 4: Jack and I are, but I questions I related to

449
00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:36,720
Speaker 4: like I thought it was there, but there was still

450
00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,199
Speaker 4: a weird disconnection. I don't know if it's because you

451
00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,359
Speaker 4: have to be younger at some point when an artist

452
00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:42,919
Speaker 4: first comes out to really connect with.

453
00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,240
Speaker 1: Him, but I think it's interesting. On the album, Jack

454
00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:52,239
Speaker 1: sounds like he doesn't know himself as an artist hit

455
00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,720
Speaker 1: like he doesn't know where he wants to go.

456
00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,680
Speaker 4: Which I think is kind of the purpose of this,

457
00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,679
Speaker 4: reflecting on doing the pop rap shit and ascending to

458
00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,400
Speaker 4: the top of the charts and now going all right, well, fuck,

459
00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,480
Speaker 4: who do I rap to now? Because I want to

460
00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:06,000
Speaker 4: rap like this?

461
00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,040
Speaker 1: I mean you can, though, can you?

462
00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:08,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

463
00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,639
Speaker 1: Absolutely? Like that's this, which is why I like the

464
00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,320
Speaker 1: last album he put out. I always told you I

465
00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,560
Speaker 1: love the nail Tech record. I thought that was a

466
00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,399
Speaker 1: cool record, thought the music was dope. I thought it

467
00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:23,080
Speaker 1: was you know, tiktokable. But imagine having that nail Tech

468
00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,720
Speaker 1: record on this album and then you have all of

469
00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,240
Speaker 1: this mixed in with it, like real raps, you know,

470
00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,560
Speaker 1: different bpms and like I said, the diary raps and

471
00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,000
Speaker 1: that type of content, like I wouldn't you know. I

472
00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,199
Speaker 1: just think that this album is missing just that, Like,

473
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Speaker 1: I'm not understand people kind of giving Jack She saying, oh,

474
00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,720
Speaker 1: you made like a quote unquote pop, which rap is pop?

475
00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:41,919
Speaker 4: Now?

476
00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:42,280
Speaker 1: Anyway?

477
00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,199
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, what happens when you make nail Tech and

478
00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,480
Speaker 4: you bring this album to Kaiser? After nail Tech comes

479
00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:48,920
Speaker 4: out Kaiser and Julie the.

480
00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,639
Speaker 1: Head of Atlantic, what do you mean, what happens?

481
00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,680
Speaker 4: We're not putting this out, they put it out. I'm saying,

482
00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,679
Speaker 4: if he came with the nail Tech record and said, hey,

483
00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,480
Speaker 4: my album's done too, it's it's Jack Man to your

484
00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,000
Speaker 4: hypothetical situation. If nail Tech was on this, Julie and

485
00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,080
Speaker 4: Kais are not putting that up.

486
00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,160
Speaker 1: Well, don't you think that's the problem with the industry?

487
00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:12,480
Speaker 4: No, I don't think I think artistry to some degree, yes,

488
00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,760
Speaker 4: as a fan, but from a business perspective, No, we're

489
00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,520
Speaker 4: gonna sit and we're gonna get the other sample joint.

490
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,920
Speaker 4: We're gonna go get our Drake feature. You can kind

491
00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,080
Speaker 4: of wrap on that, but it has to be a

492
00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,480
Speaker 4: Drake feature, and the rest of this has to match

493
00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,199
Speaker 4: to some degree with what your two singles are that

494
00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:28,760
Speaker 4: are blown up.

495
00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,760
Speaker 1: But then that's where we're back to artists not being

496
00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,359
Speaker 1: sure about what they want to do, because now you

497
00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,480
Speaker 1: have the labels trying to tell you, oh, make stuff

498
00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,639
Speaker 1: like this, make stuff like this, and it's like, but no,

499
00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,919
Speaker 1: that's not who I am. That's not the music that

500
00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,320
Speaker 1: I want to make. So why not let artists make

501
00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,480
Speaker 1: the music that they want to make, because.

502
00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,240
Speaker 3: They could make the music that they want to make,

503
00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,440
Speaker 3: and that might not get you your return on your

504
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:48,639
Speaker 3: investment in on this money or.

505
00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,720
Speaker 1: Neither wild you making records the way the label wants

506
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,400
Speaker 1: you to make. We've seen that happen too, and then

507
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:53,800
Speaker 1: now you're mad as an artist, like I didn't even

508
00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:54,520
Speaker 1: want to make that album.

509
00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,720
Speaker 4: Okay, Well what if you come in with this, jack Man,

510
00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,600
Speaker 4: and it's exactly what you want to do and you

511
00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,600
Speaker 4: have nail Tech and Kai's are ays to you, this

512
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,879
Speaker 4: will kill your career if you want to go just

513
00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,400
Speaker 4: go be an artist and have your core fan base

514
00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,040
Speaker 4: and this is just what you want to do, have

515
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:08,959
Speaker 4: a blast. But that's not the business where in this

516
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,840
Speaker 4: will kill your career. Nail Tech was pointless. Matter of fact,

517
00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,400
Speaker 4: you really might have fucked up your core fan base

518
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:14,120
Speaker 4: because now they think.

519
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,640
Speaker 1: You're this nail Tech was pointless.

520
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,680
Speaker 4: What do you mean if you're just gonna come with

521
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 4: good beats and raps, yeah, nail tech would be pointless. No,

522
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 4: you have to come with with church downs and uh.

523
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,160
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, Drake Future never heard that Drake

524
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 1: Drake feature on your album never hurt you, Like, that's

525
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 1: just we don't even have to talk about what that

526
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:34,520
Speaker 1: will do for you.

527
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 2: Lil Wayne on that album, like I know you said

528
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Speaker 2: on the last episode, he had like one feature, he

529
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 2: had a lot like justin Timberlake, Pharrell, Lil Wayne, we're

530
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 2: also on that album.

531
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Speaker 1: You know, he had the he and he had the

532
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,680
Speaker 1: clickable names. Yeah, people are going to click those records

533
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,719
Speaker 1: just to hear those other artists as well as here

534
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 1: with Jack how he performed with those artists, so.

535
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:53,639
Speaker 2: I get it.

536
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,160
Speaker 1: But this, this project seems like this was more of

537
00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,800
Speaker 1: a Jack saying this is the ship I really want

538
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,679
Speaker 1: to do, This is what I really want to sound like.

539
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 1: This is like more personal. On one verse one song,

540
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 1: he said, how the verse the first verse he had

541
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 1: wrote that like months before, and then he had went

542
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,399
Speaker 1: back to perspectively like, yo, now I feel like a

543
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,920
Speaker 1: whole different person on this. I think that's the Jack

544
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 1: that Jack wants to put out. I think that's who

545
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 1: he wants to be.

546
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 4: Well, good example, what we're talking about yep two thousand

547
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 4: and eight or nine, wile catches the Lady Gaga feature,

548
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 4: Shit goes Crazy. I think he was was he with

549
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 4: Atlantic at that time too, He might have just been

550
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 4: with with Direct to Rock Nation or s Carter Records

551
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 4: or something. He gets that record that's not the type

552
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 4: of shit while wants to make. He tries to get

553
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 4: attention deficit to match that while still doing his shit,

554
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 4: and it gets confusing. I like that album, but it

555
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 4: confused the fun out of Wale fans until we got

556
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 4: More about Nothing later to real everyone back again. Everyone,

557
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,439
Speaker 4: I'm not comparing Jack Man and More About Nothing This

558
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 4: would be to me, Jack's version of that trying to

559
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 4: get your core fan base that is going to grow

560
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 4: with you to still rock with you. Because again I

561
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 4: was a fan of Jack that calling when the kids

562
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 4: get home or whatever like to me was just I

563
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 4: see why you did it. Yeah, I'm probably not going

564
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 4: to continue to listen if this is the route you're

565
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 4: gonna go. I'm sure I'll catch a cool single or whatever,

566
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,879
Speaker 4: But this route with Jack Man, if he grows in

567
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 4: this space, I'm with it. So if he can find

568
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,239
Speaker 4: a world where he can do the Jackman stuff and

569
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,199
Speaker 4: the nail tech stuff, I think he'll be fine. So

570
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 4: I think this was a great move for the time being.

571
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 4: Now this next album is going to define what it is.

572
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 3: Well.

573
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Speaker 1: The one thing I think Jack was successful in I

574
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 1: think he showed people that he can make music. Obviously,

575
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 1: he makes good songs, he makes good projects, he can rap,

576
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 1: the music sounds good. I think now it's all about

577
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 1: him taking that and figuring out, Okay, what do I

578
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 1: want to sound like?

579
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 4: Like?

580
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: What do how can I make a happy medium with

581
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,880
Speaker 1: the records for you know, the masses and the pop

582
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 1: audience as well as still stay attached to my real

583
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: rap fans and my my real you know, core fan base.

584
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 1: So I think he's as an artist, he's at that

585
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: point in his career where he just has to figure

586
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 1: out what does Jack want to do, what does Jack

587
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: want to sound like? What does Jack want to look like?

588
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: So I mean, I'm interested to watch his progression as

589
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 1: an artist. I'm interested to watch what he goes from here.

590
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 1: He definitely proved that he is an artist that's capable

591
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 1: of making really good music.

592
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 4: Well, he's in a strange predicament too. Have we ever

593
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 4: seen a white rapper like this? Usually the white rappers,

594
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 4: for the most part, play in a certain genre of

595
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 4: hip hop and a certain type of fan of hip hop,

596
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 4: or they go completely pop the way Maclamore did. I've

597
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,719
Speaker 4: never heard like Jack's records played in the club, they

598
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 4: played on the radio, they played around black women. That

599
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 4: typically does not happen with white rappers. So he's in

600
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 4: a strange predicament that I've never seen a white rapper.

601
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 4: And Eminem does not count because he was a fucking

602
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 4: pop star. Everyone in the world had to listen to

603
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 4: Eminem like first class could play in a set, and

604
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 4: what's popping like Jack makes records for parties. Jack is

605
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 4: not to like a knee he nerd underground ship, but

606
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 4: he can also do that. So I think he's just

607
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 4: in a very strange predicament. Where As far as this demographic, yeah,

608
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 4: I think that's incredible because we've never seen a white

609
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 4: rapper do that or even be with like the young

610
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 4: kids in that regard. But how do you stay in

611
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 4: that and still rap? I think we've talked because the

612
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 4: more like, the more successful white rapper gets, the more

613
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 4: corny he gets. No matter if he's corny or not,

614
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 4: That's just how the world works. Unfortunately.

615
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, not get it. I think white. Let's talk

616
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: about when the last album came out. Does Jack rap

617
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: better than Russ? Does he make better music than Russ?

618
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 2: More commercial music?

619
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Speaker 4: Uh, I've listened to more Russ as of recent than Jack.

620
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 4: I would say Russ makes better music Jack. Maybe, I

621
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 4: don't know, but Rus could really rap.

622
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just I'm just trying to start

623
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 1: some white and white crime.

624
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Speaker 4: I'm with you, No, I'm totally with you. I mean,

625
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 4: Russ wouldn't kick me out of a show, So now

626
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Speaker 4: I'm trying to like not be buased. I'm totally if

627
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 4: you put up just just a beat. I'm not sure

628
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 4: who would out rap who. That's not a political answer.

629
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 4: I'm really just not sure between. I might lean towards

630
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 4: Russ though as far as making a song, though, just

631
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 4: because Russ actually produced. Russ sings like I'm going to

632
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 4: give Russ the upper hand of making music, but just

633
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 4: to beat one on one, I don't know.

634
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: Does Jack rap better than Millies?

635
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 4: No, Jack makes better music than Millies.

636
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: I like that Blanco six project though, I.

637
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 4: Think it's great.

638
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is Jack rap better than logic.

639
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 4: No, I would much rather listen to a Jack verse.

640
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 4: But he doesn't rap better than logic.

641
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: That's funny. Logic isn't white?

642
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, see what are you doing here? Jack did

643
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 4: say he was the hardest white boy since the one

644
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 4: who rapped about vomit and sweaters.

645
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 3: So Jack's harder than Mac Miller.

646
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: Julian, Well, Mac is he is no longer with us,

647
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: so it's he.

648
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 3: Still said he was the hardest rapper since Mac Wheeler

649
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 3: was alive. So I would like to.

650
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 4: Know, Okay, well, how do you how are you guys

651
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 4: interpreting the hardest white boy?

652
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 3: Matt Miller was alive when back when he said he's

653
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 3: the hardest rapper since Eminem was rapping about vomit and

654
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 3: mom speaking.

655
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 4: I think Milsey will knock out everyone personally. And what

656
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 4: do they mean by the hardest white boy, since like

657
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 4: the best rapper.

658
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 3: This is what Jack said. Yes, it's the best rapper.

659
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 3: He said he the hardest white boy.

660
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if Jack rap better than Millie's, though

661
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to say he does.

662
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 4: Even I don't. I don't think Jack was even let

663
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 4: me not put this on Jack, but I'm sure he

664
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 4: wasn't thinking about him when he thought.

665
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: He was just thinking.

666
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 4: He was probably thinking about the ones across the board.

667
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: I mean, let's let's just be what it is you said.

668
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: He Jack is supposed to say he's the hardest like Paul's.

669
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: I'm not faulting him like he's not supposed say, hey,

670
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm the third hardest like that. It doesn't that doesn't

671
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: stick with your audience.

672
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 4: You don't say it's mc searched than me like.

673
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: He's supposed to say. I'm not mad at Jack was saying,

674
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: and Jack corrupt. I'm just trying to start white on

675
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: white crime, that's all. I just want to know if

676
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: if we had Jack and Milly's and put a beat on.

677
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I think Millie's.

678
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 4: Gone, Ellies is definitely gonna outrap him.

679
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

680
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 4: If you, if you want to make a song that's

681
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 4: gonna go to the massive, Jack is gonna beats in that.

682
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: Well, so you're saying Jack is a better artist. Yes, okay,

683
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not mad at that.

684
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 4: Or also willing to go that route further than Millies

685
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 4: would as far as making music. But I don't understand why, Like,

686
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 4: why did why did Jack say that?

687
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: You got to drop a line like that?

688
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,959
Speaker 4: He's supposed to say, no, you don't know, You're supposed

689
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 4: to not say you even in a category that I'm

690
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 4: in the white rapper category, he should be shooting for

691
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 4: just the rapper.

692
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: Well, he has to. He has to address that white

693
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: boy he's rapping like.

694
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 4: That's some real white boy. Ship to say to me.

695
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's some real white exactly he's giving you.

696
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm really a white boy. I really rap, and I

697
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: think I'm better than I'm the hardest one since Eminet.

698
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 4: But I would I wouldn't be mad if Jack started

699
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 4: talking that way just about rappers period. I think it's

700
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 4: weird when you do the white.

701
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: I think like realistic about it as well. Well, he can't.

702
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: He definitely couldn't say I'm the hardest rapper. He couldn't

703
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: just say rapper. He had to put white in front

704
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: of that. I mean he did because then we were

705
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 1: like Jack cut it out.

706
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 4: He stat flexed a little bit on this. There's ways

707
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 4: to go around that, or like I can out wrap

708
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 4: anyone doing the pop rap ship, Like there's ways that

709
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 4: he could talk his ship the hardest white boy.

710
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm the hardest Okay, right, so turned that fat? Did

711
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: you just say pop rap?

712
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 4: Of course you wouldn't say that.

713
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: But Lebron stat Yeah, on Christmas the best has the

714
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: most double doubles on Halloween, like.

715
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 2: The first first week number.

716
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 4: Since what you don't think it's weird to just do

717
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 4: the white boy ship, what other white rapper has done that?

718
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: It is? It is a corner at to Rory's point

719
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: is because now you are you're in by proxy only

720
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 2: comparing yourself to such a few, and you're you're removing

721
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: yourself from the pool of hip hop.

722
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: Well, no, I think what he I think what he

723
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: was doing was obviously he was an eminem fan, right,

724
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: So I think that is his first mistake. He's he's

725
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: saying like, Yo, I'm the hardest boys since him, Like

726
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: I'm I'm, I'm, I'm the next big white rap star.

727
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,959
Speaker 4: Coffee pot in the kitchen.

728
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: Ye that was an coffee with a lot of cream

729
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: in it.

730
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Max's name was trending in defense of this tweet,

731
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: and I understand artists do stuff like this, but it's insane.

732
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: You're there's don't put that.

733
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 4: Okay, So you think the rest peace to Mac And

734
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 4: we know Max artistry and whites are beefing. We know

735
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 4: Max artistry. That goes without saying in this conversation.

736
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's beyond talented and.

737
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 4: Just just rapping Jack versus Mac Mac.

738
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 2: Mac would wash Jack. You go to any of his freestyles.

739
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 4: I've seen all his freestyles.

740
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: They're better.

741
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 4: Jack has a lot of freestyles too that were pre

742
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 4: nail tech. That was kind of crazy.

743
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: This is from niggas getting full off that Jack Mac

744
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: first smack back. Got it? You said, Mac Jack, I.

745
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 4: Just he's allowed to rap on the show, And I'm.

746
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: Not like, was that your four?

747
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: No? That was that No, that wasn't my boss. So

748
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: y'all don't watch Battle Rap.

749
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: That's your problem now, oh that problem?

750
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, y'are not part of the culture.

751
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 4: Is disaster white? I don't know, is he Jack's not

752
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,959
Speaker 4: harder than disaster. Disaster is probably not white.

753
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what. But I would

754
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: love to see Jack.

755
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 4: He's he's harder than Iron Solomon.

756
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: I would love to see Jack.

757
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:23,959
Speaker 3: Uh.

758
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: I would love to see Jack Uh, Millie's and Russ

759
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: not battle each other, just in a room with some

760
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: beats and just let let all of them, let all

761
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: of them get their ship off.

762
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 3: Battle of the Calumnizers, like I just want to.

763
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: I just wanted the Calainizers colonizers.

764
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 3: I'm sorry upstate.

765
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: I thought she was calling Cali people. Something different about

766
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: to call Californias. Now, I would love to see those

767
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: three in the room and just let some beats go off.

768
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: Put some alchemists beats in there. Put some hit boy,

769
00:30:59,640 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

770
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 2: But that real could help produce. I could events the event.

771
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 3: It's called whites only.

772
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: Hey, they with good talentains.

773
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: That event would be over in ten minutes. They here,

774
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: it's a white's only event in rap. They'd be like,

775
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: excuse me.

776
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 4: You don't think the whites actually white people hate white rappers?

777
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, that is that is a thing that is

778
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: so not true.

779
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 4: I'm talking about white people in music. We know.

780
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: We're not talking about like white people that grew up

781
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: where we grew up at. We talked about like the

782
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: Anheuser Bush drinkers.

783
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, what I'm saying, I'm not talking about that.

784
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 4: I'm talking about white people that are in the music industry.

785
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 4: We tend to hate our own. Like when Mac first

786
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 4: came out. I liked when he was on the Lord

787
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 4: forin Nexis Ship, but I was like, I gotta hear

788
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 4: more like he's young. Yeah, I'm not really into it.

789
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 4: Anytime a white rapper comes, we tend to have to

790
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 4: say we hate them in our own subconscious No one

791
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 4: asked for that, but we hate white rappers.

792
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: I don't believe that. I think. I think. I think

793
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: every time a good white rapper appears, I think, like

794
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: all the white people in the music industry, like when

795
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: everybody leaves, they like throw the powder in the air,

796
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: like Lebrono. Yes, we got to know it.

797
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: It's the Austin Reeves effect. A white boy dropped twenty one,

798
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: so they're like, he's the next coming.

799
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 4: It's like, but how often has that worked or have

800
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 4: they even tried? They fucked They fucked up Asher Roth

801
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 4: and that was their fair. Really, they really fucked is

802
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 4: really talented and want to make fucking jazz music. They

803
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 4: put a college sweater on him and it was like

804
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 4: drink beer. They fucked him up. After Mac, who would

805
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 4: be someone in that realm that was a white rapper

806
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 4: besides Jack, that's not in the underground. So that's where

807
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 4: I disagree. I feel like they we hate our own kind.

808
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: Well. I supported Machine Gun Kelly and his beef Eminem.

809
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: I said he made a good record and nobody back,

810
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: none of you white boys back this kind of the

811
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: record he made was dope, step out of hip hop.

812
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 4: Poe Oh the Haley Ship. Yeah, I thought it was cool.

813
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 4: I thought he beat him in that that battle.

814
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you didn't support me enough.

815
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 4: I didn't. You didn't ask, you didn't text me to

816
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 4: ask for someone.

817
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't. I shouldn't have to ask you

818
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: that I've shown up to ask my white friend for

819
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: support when I'm supporting the white rapper. I think that

820
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: that just goes handing in. None of my boys would

821
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: have to say, YO, support me in this biggie pot beef,

822
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: Like I'm there. I'm in the front lines with you,

823
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like you was supposed to

824
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: be there with me. I'm in the fucking trench is

825
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: taking grenades for you.

826
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 4: I'm sorry I didn't go to Quad Studios.

827
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: That god damn man, four year old me. But Jack

828
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: ab was good, though, I'm not. I'm not mad at

829
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: the Jack album overall. It's a good project. Good listen.

830
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: I like the fact again, it's short, it's right to it.

831
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: Can we delete the music?

832
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 4: Can we delete Gang Gang Gang Forever? Off DSPs? Though

833
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 4: that sounded like if Maclamore got the stems to mister Morale.

834
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 4: It like that.

835
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: I know why you say that, I get it. I

836
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: understand why you say that, But I'm gonna say why.

837
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: I wasn't mad.

838
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 4: It went from Demarius as a man now to Kevin's

839
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 4: Raven Girls Now. He just carried on the saund.

840
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: It did feel a little like it felt stand. It

841
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: felt like a little stand. It felt like I get it.

842
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 4: But yeah, Jack, I get it. I get the move.

843
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 4: I like the Chipmunk beats. That's that's my era, so

844
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 4: I can't complain. It was Chipmunk beats and I like that.

845
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 4: It's like in house producers and up and coming producers.

846
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 4: And once he's used before, you didn't just go straight,

847
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 4: you know, to just to do everything. I think it's cool.

848
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to take a I want to. I

849
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: want to. I love listening to music. When you have

850
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: a flight, that's when you hear music just just you

851
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: and Jack firstme, not just me and Jack. That's crezy

852
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: in first class with your nails done, set in first

853
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: class with Mark. I want to listen and you popping,

854
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: and keV, I just want to listen to music, that's all.

855
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 4: I don't have to be a crying kid on the plane.

856
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 4: Kevin go crazy.

857
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had to kill you about something though. I

858
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 1: just I let something sat with me over the weekend

859
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: and I realized you said on the last episode, and

860
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: I was just like, I can't believe I lever or

861
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: get that off in my presence. And I said something

862
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: about Doja Cat being able to make a better rap

863
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: album yes than Ja Cole, Yes your main Why did

864
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: you say that?

865
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 4: Well, you're taking it a bit out of context.

866
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: All right, So what did you say I.

867
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 4: Said in twenty twenty three. Yes, I think Dojah Cat

868
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 4: can make a better rap album than Ja Cole.

869
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: No, you don't.

870
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 4: I gave you my ex Would you want my quick

871
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 4: explanation again from the last episode. I didn't just say

872
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 4: it on you headline.

873
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: Shit, I don't think you believe that.

874
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 4: I thought whatever year Blueprint three came out, I thought

875
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 4: Drake could make a better rap album than jay Z

876
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 4: at that time, They're way later in their career. This

877
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 4: is she's at her peak. She's not gonna let a

878
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 4: single fucking note go wrong.

879
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: Give me the bar that tells you that Dojah can

880
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: make a better rap album.

881
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:21,919
Speaker 4: So you want me to rap more?

882
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 1: No, yeah, not your boss a Doja bar.

883
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 4: Oh not, because I don't think we've even gotten to

884
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 4: the top of the Dojah spectrum of lyrics.

885
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: So your foreshadowing's what you're doing.

886
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 4: Yes, did you not understand my explanation in saying that

887
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 4: Cole has passed that he's already made that album. Now

888
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 4: he can do his older shit and chill and make

889
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 4: an album that he just wants to make without the

890
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 4: fear of everything being perfect to the masses. Doja doesn't

891
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 4: have that right now. I think that's going to be

892
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 4: the most perfect album if she puts it out, If

893
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 4: she's gonna make a rap album, it's gonna be perfect.

894
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 4: I don't think she's gonna skip any steps, every last note,

895
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 4: She's gonna talk to every last producer. They're gonna dump

896
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 4: more money in that shit than ever before. I think

897
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 4: Cole is at a point now as he rightfully should.

898
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 4: Let me go in North Carolina, make the ship I

899
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 4: want to make.

900
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 1: Put it out.

901
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 4: They're in different parts. I think when Blueprint three came out,

902
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 4: I said at that time, Drake could make a better

903
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 4: rap album than jay Z can. There are different points

904
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 4: in their careers, that's all.

905
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: So I'm so, I'm just trying to.

906
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 4: I'm saying dosees Drake.

907
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, So I'm trying to get so.

908
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 4: Ja Cole on Blueprint three, Washed.

909
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: Jay Z okay, so so Dojah Cat. Just want to

910
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: make sure I understand what Big Cat yep, big big

911
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: Dozer yeah is going to make those dose She has

912
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: the capability of making a better rap album twelve. Though

913
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 1: she's never made a rap album, she has the ability

914
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: to make a better rap album than Jake Cole.

915
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 4: As far like a massive rap album.

916
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, all right, I just wanted to I just

917
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: that sat with me. I heard it again, and I

918
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: was like, wait a minute, because I just don't know

919
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: how you say that, and she's never made one. You

920
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: don't even have one to go off of.

921
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 4: I understand the music she's put out.

922
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 1: Like your whole jay Z Drake comparison. At least Drake

923
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: had raps out yet, Like so I can understand you

924
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: kind of sort of making that, like, you know, comparison.

925
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: But Dojah does not have a single rap not even

926
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: half a rap album.

927
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 4: If Dojah Cat says behind the scenes, I want to

928
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 4: put out a rap album, you don't think every single

929
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 4: legendary producer, up and coming producer, that's it right now, Legacy,

930
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 4: anything you think of, is not going to come in

931
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 4: to work with Doja and make that album the most

932
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 4: perfect album ever.

933
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: I still don't think that that means it's going to

934
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: be a better album than Jake Cole can make. That's

935
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 1: what I'm not saying it's gonna be a bad album.

936
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 1: You saying that you think it would be a better

937
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: album than Jake Cole can make is kind of where

938
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, based off of what like, what did you hear?

939
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: What did you see? Besides the you know, if she

940
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: gets in the studio with this producer and that producer, okay, cool,

941
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: that means that she has the names, she has the opportunity,

942
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: she has the resources. But we still don't know if

943
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: that means it's going to be a better album.

944
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 4: I think those with where she's at in her career

945
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 4: and her age, that she would work with producers that

946
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 4: Cole would not work with, that would make a better

947
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three wrap autum.

948
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I hope it happens, just so I can

949
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:12,479
Speaker 1: laugh in your face again.

950
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 4: Oh that's fine. If we get a Dojah and a

951
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 4: j Co album, might be thrilled. Oh no is telling

952
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 4: me that that Dojah doesn't somebody else put on my

953
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 4: cut my gut, dosas in my gut and.

954
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: They yo.

955
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 4: He just I was in those I was in those

956
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 4: chats with.

957
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: Your feet out. You had your feet out when Doja

958
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: had her feet out. Of course it's the only way

959
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: to do it.

960
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 4: I have my nipples out too at that party.

961
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: So Ed Sharon is in trouble. Uh. The Marvin Gay

962
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: estate is suing Rory's cousin for this might be.

963
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 5: The downfall of edited Marvin gay Estate listen man ed

964
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 5: Sharon so his Edshurance song Thinking out Loud out the

965
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 5: Marvin Gaye state is claiming that he sampled Let's Get

966
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 5: It On.

967
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: We listened to it, Ed, you might be in trouble, buddy,

968
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: those those.

969
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 4: Chords sam Thinking out Loud sounds like Let's get it

970
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 4: on before Marvin.

971
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be the one to say it.

972
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: They called it, they heard it.

973
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 4: So from what I understand ed, Sheeron went obviously to

974
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 4: court and he brought his guitar and did like a

975
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 4: tiny desk. I'm really not making this up. Are we

976
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 4: gonna He did like a tiny desk thing on the

977
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 4: stand to play some of the songs to prove in

978
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 4: litigation that it wasn't a Marvin Gaye sample.

979
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: Damn, are we gonna get that? Do we get that?

980
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 4: Tiny court?

981
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: We need to do the audio file like side by side, all.

982
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 4: Right, just for audio purposes. Maybe we can listen to

983
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 4: some of this. I still think Marvin Gay's estate may

984
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 4: own this podcast by next week. But YouTube, we're not.

985
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 4: We're not fucking with it. If you're listening to audio

986
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 4: we're about to play the switch. Just don't snitch.

987
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so yeah, sorry on.

988
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 4: Wait did the song? We knew that though, hee bro,

989
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,959
Speaker 4: I really assumed that that they.

990
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: Play and fuck it, man, just tell him that was

991
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: a I man. That's how you get out of this

992
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: ship and just say, go on court, say that wasn't me,

993
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: it was a I. Man. Blame it on AI man,

994
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,479
Speaker 1: fuck it because you ain't gonna win this one.

995
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 4: But can you imagine Ed in court, like literally giving

996
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 4: a concert with his acoustic guitar.

997
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 1: I could see it, but I could see him crying

998
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: while he's she just sounds exactly like that song. I

999
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: would be crying if I was and I had to

1000
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: play that in court, i'p like, god, damn it, they

1001
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: called me.

1002
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 3: There's no way Ed didn't notice that.

1003
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 4: He played apparently a whole mashup, like he did a

1004
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 4: whole set of just Marvin songs, which is nuts.

1005
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: But we'd have to who.

1006
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 4: Is who is in his corner or in that studio

1007
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 4: or even at that label that doesn't already know how

1008
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 4: Marvin Gaye's estate plays. I think you would have to

1009
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 4: be like, you know.

1010
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: What it is, this is what it is. Man, I

1011
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 1: think if Julian was still there, I think we gotta

1012
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: get We gotta get to a point where we it's

1013
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 1: the rules with this sampling, and things have to change

1014
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: a little bit because not with this one. I understand. Yes,

1015
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: with this one, Yes, it sounds the is. The chords

1016
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: are similar, the temple may even be similar.

1017
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 3: But it's like the melody is similar.

1018
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that that's I'm not gonna say

1019
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: that that's a sample. Though, I'm not gonna say that

1020
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: that's a sample. It's a completely different song. Yes, it's

1021
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 1: only but how many how many chords exist, how many

1022
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 1: notes exist? Like that's at some point things are gonna

1023
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: sound alike.

1024
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 2: But even on an interpolation, which is different than a sample,

1025
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: you still need to get clearance for that. Yeah, it's

1026
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 2: not just like it isn't just a direct a small

1027
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: version of a rip. It's still something you need to clear.

1028
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: I understand that. But we have to get to a

1029
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: point where, again, it's only so many chords and notes

1030
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: and things we can play before something sounds like something,

1031
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: But if.

1032
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 4: You play it doesn't exact same way.

1033
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: Like if I hear melody in my head and I'm

1034
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: writing music and I'm playing it. Yeah, of course subconsciously

1035
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: and maybe playing off of something that I heard somewhere

1036
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: in my life. But it's not like I'm saying it

1037
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: wasn't Oh I'm gonna play this Marvin Gaye, let's get

1038
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: it all right?

1039
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 4: No, okay, But to me, that's actually kind of why

1040
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 4: they're owed, because that melody is just embedded in our

1041
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 4: fucking brains. Proves that this works no matter what. This

1042
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 4: is in people's brains, and we know, no matter what,

1043
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 4: this will be monetized very well, especially with Ed Sheering.

1044
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 4: This is a proven melody because it's already in our brains.

1045
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: I get that.

1046
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 4: But so yeah, they do need.

1047
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: We gotta, we gotta, they gotta try to, they gotta

1048
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: do something with it, because I'm I find it hard

1049
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: to believe that they're just now catching Like nobody at

1050
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: Adds label caught this. Nobody like so that's my thing.

1051
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the.

1052
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 3: People will catch it.

1053
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 4: It was worth the risk, had to know they were.

1054
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 3: I feel like it was worth the risk. This was

1055
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 3: one of the biggest songs that I'm sure it made

1056
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 3: a bunch of people a bunch of money. You can

1057
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 3: go anywhere for like a year without hearing this song.

1058
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 3: Nobody's wedding, nobody's raising.

1059
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: Somebody at the label. It's somebody's job to catch that

1060
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: before it ends up going to court, and somebody's job.

1061
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 3: Somebody probably caught it, but they probably were like, fuck it.

1062
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: If Martin Cat, you.

1063
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: Can't play that game. I find that so can't play

1064
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 1: the if they catch us, they catch us game. Not

1065
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: with that a state, you can't can't afford to play.

1066
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 4: That, especially with edge shearing. It's not like just some

1067
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 4: random artists that no one's ever heard.

1068
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: Of, one of the biggest artists in the world.

1069
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 4: That's something that has to really go through it, because

1070
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 4: I've seen labels do that with like weird fucking vocal

1071
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 4: samples that you could never even make out that they

1072
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 4: know as a sample, with an artist that is unknown,

1073
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 4: and they're gonna make sure that is.

1074
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 2: Sampled is clear All my baby artists at Atlantic, the

1075
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 2: ones that no one would even know, they would treat

1076
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 2: those clearances like just as serious as you would for

1077
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: an artist of any level.

1078
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 4: I've seen them do it with ship that was replayed

1079
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 4: that wasn't even a sample. They're like, all right, what

1080
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 4: was this replayed from It could be some fucking band

1081
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 4: in Nova Scotia that had three plays on YouTube. They're

1082
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 4: not playing that ship. That's why this is so weird

1083
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 4: to me, especially after the blurred lines case.

1084
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 3: So you think there was nobody in the room who

1085
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 3: could have recognized that? Who because I'm sure we all

1086
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 3: noticed it the first time we heard it, right.

1087
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 4: I think Ed Shearon was telling everyone that came into

1088
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 4: the studio to hear the mix. Hey, I have have

1089
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 4: my version of Let's get it one.

1090
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 2: But there are cases where and of course obviously it's

1091
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 2: familiar with that song, but sometimes ship slips, like sometimes

1092
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 2: you don't. I agree, but that's what in this case.

1093
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 4: Disregard. This is not a slip.

1094
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: Let's be read neither none of it. Nobody in this

1095
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: room said this is let's get it on when we

1096
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 1: first heard that record.

1097
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 2: It's not I never it's nobody put it in your

1098
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: face like this.

1099
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: So that's my that's my point. Like when we listened

1100
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: to the song, I didn't hear let's get it on.

1101
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: Now when you tell me that the Marvin Gaye State

1102
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: is taking him to court and we play Let's get

1103
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: it on, I'm like, oh, ship, very similar. But does

1104
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: that mean that Ed Sheeran and pulled from Let's Get

1105
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: It On to write that record. I don't think it

1106
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: means that, and I don't think he would do that,

1107
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: because this is where you'll end up. You'll end up

1108
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: in the court room with your little band Joe Strummer too,

1109
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: talking about Hey, look I wrote this twelve years ago.

1110
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: I didn't even think about no no, no, no no.

1111
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: So that's why you can't play the fuck if they

1112
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: catch as they catch this game, you can't play that

1113
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: game because they will catch it. And now you're in

1114
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 1: court doing the Tiny Court series.

1115
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 4: To be released on what you know they might copyright

1116
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 4: you later for that.

1117
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you see what I'm saying, So they might have.

1118
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 4: Ask the scenographer.

1119
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: He let me say that. Yeah, like so I mean again,

1120
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 1: great record, one of the biggest records of the year

1121
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: came out, if not the biggest song. Thousands of people

1122
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: have gotten married to it. Nobody said this is Let's

1123
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: Get It On. You understand, So it's just it's fuck

1124
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: that I understand it. Though when you play it side

1125
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: by side, it's hard not to hear Let's get it on.

1126
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: Now that you say that, but there has to be

1127
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: some type of laws and rules that come into play

1128
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: with sampling or drawing inspiration from melodies and chords, because,

1129
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: like I said, we hear things yes better than our brain. Subconsciously,

1130
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: we don't even recognize where we remember that melody from

1131
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: until lawyers are sitting there saying, hey, this is not

1132
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: Marvin you sample and I'm like, oh shit, it's hard

1133
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: for me to say I didn't because it sounds just

1134
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 1: like it. But in reality, I don't think Ed Shearon

1135
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: sat down with his guitar and tried to low key

1136
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: sample Let's Get It On.

1137
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 3: So you don't think they should be able to sue him,

1138
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 3: that's what you're saying, not sue or collect future royalties.

1139
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 4: They should be they should be able to get royalties.

1140
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but it's but it's again, it's a it's

1141
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: a it's a slippery slope with that because I don't

1142
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: think that Ed Sheeran knowingly sampled Let's Get It On

1143
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: when he wrote that record. But I think again, subconsciously,

1144
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: that melody is in a songwriter's head. If you play

1145
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: the guitar, you listen to music, nine times out of ten,

1146
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 1: you're a Marvin Gaye fan. So you have these melodies

1147
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: that you heard when you were a kid, and you

1148
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 1: just playing your guitar all day and write a fucking

1149
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: classic that Ed Shearon wrote subconsciously not even knowing. This

1150
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: sounds very similar to let's get it on and now

1151
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: you're in court and your face in this these legalities.

1152
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: But it's not fair to to to Ed Shearon in

1153
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: the sense I understand that Marvin Gaye state and rightfully

1154
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: so if they feel like that's a sample, take it

1155
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 1: to court. It does sound very similar. Not mad at that,

1156
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: but to Ed Sharon's defense, it's like, how do you

1157
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 1: protect these newer artists when it's like, yo, I wasn't

1158
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: trying to sample. Yes, it sounds similar, but I wasn't

1159
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: sampling that. I wasn't pulling from that. I really wrote

1160
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: a song that I just heard this melody in my

1161
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: head and it happened to be a big fucking record. Now,

1162
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: if this record wasn't this big, does a Marvin Gez

1163
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: stick go after it?

1164
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 4: No, of course, And that's why I think they waited

1165
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 4: a while, but to get up and.

1166
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: Then that's my problem. That's my problem, like when it

1167
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 1: when it becomes a big, huge hit as it is

1168
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 1: then you see the artists, but it's like.

1169
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, now you're actually profit work.

1170
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: Actually that's not, but that's but again that's you have

1171
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 1: to protect the newer artist though, because again I don't

1172
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: think ed Shearon sample let's get it on and let

1173
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: it fly and and and hope they would go into

1174
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: the radar. I don't think he did that. No, But

1175
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: now when you play the song side by side, it's

1176
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: hard to say, hey, you didn't join inspiration from that.

1177
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: It's hard to say no, I didn't. I get that part.

1178
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: But we got to protect newer songwriters and artists because

1179
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 1: the people that came before them, that our legends wrote

1180
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: a record again that like what we said embedded, but

1181
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean I sampled that.

1182
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 4: But then that's just a continuing wheel because once these

1183
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 4: newer artists become legacy artists, I feel like we should

1184
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 4: protect them. Still, No, when when newer artists coming.

1185
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: And I'm over. I'm all for protecting artists, but like

1186
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 1: I said, in this case, we had sharing should be

1187
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: protected as well. All artists should be protected.

1188
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,919
Speaker 3: Would you feel differently if Marvin Gaye was still a livee, No,

1189
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 3: Like if he would say what I'm saying, I.

1190
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 4: Think it's great that his family is now sticking together

1191
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 4: after the internal issues they had, Like I think this

1192
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 4: show is really like real progress just from the Gay family.

1193
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 3: What I'm saying is, I feel like, because so when

1194
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 3: you hear Marvin gay a state right, it doesn't sound

1195
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 3: as human as Marvin Gay himself. If Marvin Gay himself

1196
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 3: was on the court step saying, hey, this is my shit.

1197
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 3: I know that this is my shit, and I want

1198
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 3: my money because you're taking money from me, Like, I

1199
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 3: feel like maybe we would think about protecting him.

1200
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 1: Was built on stealing. Little Richard still hasn't gotten royalties

1201
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: for creating a whole genre.

1202
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 3: That doesn't make it.

1203
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 4: Well, this could go even this go even deeper because

1204
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 4: a lot of Marvin Gaye's production from his band, Like

1205
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 4: what may end up in this lawsuit is that guitar

1206
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 4: riff that maybe Marvin didn't write, the guitar player in

1207
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 4: his band wrote it.

1208
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 2: But that's but the But then that goes to a

1209
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: deeper thing. Why Marvin owned by Marvin's estate.

1210
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 4: I know, I understand the guitar player probably got a

1211
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 4: feet and then Marvin took all the publishing. That it

1212
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 4: goes even deeper in that regard, because if I'm that

1213
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 4: guitar player's son and I'm like, I mean, I get it,

1214
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,919
Speaker 4: Marvin owns it. But that riff that everyone loves right now,

1215
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 4: he didn't sample Marvin's voice or what he wrote. And

1216
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 4: when it comes to writing, guitar riffs are underwritten by

1217
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 4: they're not underproduced by. This is writing. I want my

1218
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 4: fucking royalties to.

1219
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: I just think that you have to protect all artists again.

1220
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 4: They need to make an AI that's just for the

1221
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 4: Marvin Gay catalogs, that an artist can submit their song

1222
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 4: and run it through AI and the app can come

1223
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 4: back and say, hey, you're fine or not.

1224
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 2: Robin Think and Farrell lost five million in their lawsuit

1225
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 2: for sampling. Got to give it up on blurred lines,

1226
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 2: so loses five I think it's still worth it.

1227
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 4: Do you think it's made more than blurred lines?

1228
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: Kind of?

1229
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? This video on YouTube as like three point five

1230
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 2: eight billion views. Yeah, I mean blur and Emily Radakowski

1231
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 2: showed her tits and blurred lines. I don't even know

1232
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 2: if it's that many views.

1233
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 3: Blurt Blurred lines was really big with this song. Is

1234
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 3: this song will continue to be big for like ever,

1235
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 3: it's huge. So like I said, like I said, there's

1236
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 3: a chance that I might have just fuck it is

1237
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 3: worth it. I don't know, that's my opinion. I don't

1238
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 3: see no one noticing that ever.

1239
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm indifferent. I get what mal is saying,

1240
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 4: but I totally even find was the Marvin Gay state

1241
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 4: just running through music to find shit? I think they

1242
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 4: get a little too nitpicky. I don't think that's the

1243
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 4: case here though. I think this is this is a pretty.

1244
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: Player fuck because, like I said, man, nobody said this

1245
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: is let's get it on before this came out. Nobody.

1246
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: So that's why it's fucked up because now it's like,

1247
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 1: oh yeah, no, I can hear it. Yeah, he definitely

1248
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: stole that. No he didn't like stop man, I understand it.

1249
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: Said it's very similar. It sounds just like it, But

1250
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: there needs to be some type of shit where we

1251
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: protect on.

1252
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 4: Don't you know how many samples that that are on

1253
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 4: rap records that you are not obvious at all? Oh

1254
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 4: for sure, So it's the same thing just because you're

1255
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 4: not outright doing a sample, if you are taking and

1256
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 4: even reforming it, like there's plenty of Kanye records that

1257
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 4: if you listen to the real sample, I would say

1258
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 4: the genius and Kanye is how the fuck did you

1259
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 4: make that sound like that? It sounds nothing like it,

1260
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 4: But the ship you took they still are owed. Some

1261
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 4: shit is not just straight Chaka Khan through the wire vocals.

1262
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 4: Some some shit is like really morphed and changed.

1263
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: No get it.

1264
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 4: You have to be a nerd. Like jay Dilla samples,

1265
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 4: you would never guess the fucking song. But I think

1266
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 4: the people Dila is sampling neither their royalties.

1267
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at that. When you talk about sampling,

1268
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the case with that sharing there.

1269
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 1: I don't think he was trying to sample. Let's get

1270
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: it on. I don't think he was trying to, you know,

1271
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: use the similar chords. I think he really just wrote

1272
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: a song that he heard in his head and that

1273
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: he created and it just so happens to be one

1274
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 1: of the greatest songs ever. Like that's where he fucked

1275
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: up at.

1276
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 4: I really don't want to shit on something in the

1277
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 4: water because I feel like the past three years they've

1278
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 4: had some of the best festival lineups ever. And I'm

1279
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 4: not saying this year was bad by any means, but

1280
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 4: I didn't see shit. As far as coverage, They're fucking

1281
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,760
Speaker 4: kid cutty on there. You figured you get a cutting

1282
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 4: live stream of everyone cutting down on the timeline.

1283
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: I didn't see. The only clip I'm seeing from something

1284
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: in the water is of Coiler Ray addressing haters of

1285
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: an alleged Coiler Ray motto fight Lil Wayne was there.

1286
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: I didn't look at.

1287
00:52:58,400 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 4: Where we were at in music, and I swear this

1288
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 4: is to dig atkoy Lotto, any of them. They had

1289
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 4: swv YACHTI was performing his new child album, all these

1290
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 4: any little UZI verts on here and the only thing

1291
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 4: we get is delatto and that didn't happen. They had

1292
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 4: the Wu Tang clans.

1293
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: I'm mad that I don't even know what Kaylannie looked like.

1294
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 1: I always want to know what Kaylanie looks, like, Why

1295
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: don't we know what Kaylannie wore on stage? Like? Why

1296
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: didn't I Why didn't we see any of that?

1297
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 4: Mumford and Son, why not?

1298
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, they parallel with Machine Gun Kelly.

1299
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 4: You don't think that like the day they take their

1300
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 4: drugs and see muffeting Son of the kids, like this

1301
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 4: is the vibe.

1302
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: I don't think that would happened in VIRGINI.

1303
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 4: You know, these old people are vibe.

1304
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: Summer was there, Like, I didn't see any of this footage.

1305
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 4: No, it's a great lot of It's just odd to

1306
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 4: me that that's the only thing we saw. Did they not?

1307
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: Are we out of the I'm lying The Wu Tang

1308
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: clan I did see because Meth was laughing at the

1309
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,760
Speaker 1: sign language lady because she knew all of the words

1310
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: and he couldn't like stop, like damn, that's dope that

1311
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: she's signing all about word lyrics. So I did see,

1312
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 1: uh Wu Tang clan, But no, I didn't see anybody.

1313
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 2: It says clips. I'm assuming they were both there. Who

1314
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 2: says the clips?

1315
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well yeah, that would have to be clips

1316
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: on every single clip. Yeah, it would be both, Julian,

1317
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: it would say push your tee if it wasn't.

1318
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 4: I see little Wayne was on here. Mate, means to

1319
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 4: upset you, but upset me, Julie. We should have went

1320
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 4: down it was it was shitty weather up north. We

1321
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 4: could have seen Wayne again and really pissed all off.

1322
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: Your Lord and Savior, Louisiana.

1323
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great show, big God, great show.

1324
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: You see No clips from the show. What are you

1325
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: talking about it?

1326
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 4: If he did the Apollo Show, then we know it

1327
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 4: was good. Oh god, no, do you think he brought

1328
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 4: out the acts in between?

1329
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: I hope not drizzy p No, and he could rat.

1330
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: But you gotta change his name.

1331
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 2: Jack Harlow.

1332
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,240
Speaker 1: You gotta change his name. He didn't sound bad, his

1333
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: balls wasn't terrible. Gotta change your name, got to rebrand yourself.

1334
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 4: Why is Coiler Ray saying these bitches won't get off

1335
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 4: my dick the number one thing that the internet catches

1336
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 4: from this that doesn't say anyth about this festival. I

1337
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 4: think this is everything about us, and not Coiler Ray either,

1338
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 4: because I bet this wasn't even a moment in her.

1339
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: We love bullshit, we love drama. That's what it's all about.

1340
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: And whenever it is bullshit and drama, they're gonna push that.

1341
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: They're gonna even show that highlight that let's clip this up,

1342
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: put this everywhere on every blog site, every fucking whatever

1343
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: it is now that we get our clicks and shit from.

1344
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 4: Well, what makes me upset is it was perfect audio

1345
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 4: and they gave us a drone and a recut of this.

1346
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, they sold this.

1347
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 4: I didn't get muffetted son with a drone. I get

1348
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 4: Coyler Ray saying these bitches are.

1349
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: Like I wanted to see Kate Trinada, Like I still

1350
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: we didn't get no clips of that, Like, I just

1351
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 1: why do we push bullshit? Why do we push drama?

1352
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 4: Well that's because there was allegedly a fight between Coiler

1353
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 4: Ray and Loatto behind the scenes.

1354
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: Allegedly there was a fight. We don't know if it's

1355
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: true or not.

1356
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 4: It wasn't true, it was it wasn't true.

1357
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: Okay, well maybe it wasn't. I'm just saying we don't

1358
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: know for sure. So maybe something happened, maybe some words

1359
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:54,919
Speaker 1: were exchanged, but hopefully it wasn't a fight. That would

1360
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: be Like, what's the point of that. I think they

1361
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: just swatched that a few days ago and cleared all

1362
00:55:58,719 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: of that up.

1363
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 3: I need Meghan back on the scene. When Maya was

1364
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 3: on the scene, she was she was poorn hennessy, I

1365
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 3: mean not Hennessy, do say? And everybody's mouth and all

1366
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 3: the female girlies were getting everything COVID happened.

1367
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 4: You can't do that anymore. What since you speak for

1368
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 4: all women, why is it whenever they want to like

1369
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 4: do the sub to all women out there, they say,

1370
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 4: all these bitches are on my dick.

1371
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 3: I don't even think they're really subbing anybody. I think

1372
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 3: that's just you.

1373
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 2: Could be like you clit sucking.

1374
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 4: Like listen the baby say what you will about his politics.

1375
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 4: But he was direct to everyone that he was talking

1376
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 4: to in the crowd. He said, if you're sucking dick

1377
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 4: in the parking lot right now, I don't fuck with you.

1378
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 4: Coiler Ray, very generic. How would you? I was trying

1379
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 4: to find how are they not tied in at festivals

1380
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 4: addressing people. I feel like the male rappers kind of

1381
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:50,720
Speaker 4: get a little bit more specific.

1382
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: R Yeah, very direct.

1383
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 4: Whether you agree with the baby or not, that's not

1384
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. He said. Anyone that's currently sucking dick

1385
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 4: in the backseat of a car in this parking lot

1386
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 4: can't fuck you.

1387
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: He said a little more than that, but he didn't

1388
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 1: leave it at that. He didn't just say if you

1389
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: suck at dick in the back of a car in

1390
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: the parking lot, I can't fuck with.

1391
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 2: You, said he said. None of my fans have aids.

1392
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know what he said. Pretty sure,

1393
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: he said, I won't repeat what he said, but I.

1394
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 6: Don't know what he's y'all see that nigga opening up.

1395
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 6: He was opening up for Cedric Entertaining somewhere. Yeah, they

1396
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 6: got the baby. No, no bullshit said, y'all think I'm joking.

1397
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 6: I'm not even And y'all know I fuck with the

1398
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 6: baby big support. I always always fucked the baby.

1399
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 4: Especially his comments.

1400
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: No, not those comments, but he was. He was performing

1401
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: at like a comedy show at the Barclays Center. That's crazy.

1402
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: I should this nigga might be canceled for real, when no,

1403
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It was something we could put. It was

1404
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: some show at the Barclays a few weeks ago.

1405
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 4: Still doing arenas.

1406
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: Wow. Does that count?

1407
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 4: Yes?

1408
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: Does it?

1409
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 2: If it's a comedy April Fools comedy gym.

1410
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 3: I think they had like eighty five South or something

1411
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 3: like that.

1412
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 2: Where they it was the April Fools Comedy Jam. The

1413
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 2: baby performed.

1414
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 4: You got to bring the baby out. He's eighty five

1415
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 4: South if you think about it, he is.

1416
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 2: He is funny.

1417
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 4: Eighty five runs thro Charlotte, right.

1418
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: So that's that's bad though, And I get it work.

1419
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: They probably gave a bag listen. I'm not. They probably

1420
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: gave him a bag for it, so let me shut

1421
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: the fuck up.

1422
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 4: But no, I think eighty five South got the bag.

1423
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't think they get a baby to bag

1424
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: to perform the Boss.

1425
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 4: It's not my business. I just think eighty five South

1426
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 4: got the bag. It's just as they deserve it as well.

1427
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: He was performing at the Grammys a few years ago.

1428
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, I think the Baby wasn't canceled per se. No.

1429
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 4: I know I have terrible comparisons, but I do tie

1430
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 4: them in. I think it's a joy rule situation where

1431
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 4: one thing happened and a bunch of other things happened

1432
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 4: too that we don't focus on. It was a tornado

1433
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 4: of shit. I think people were kind of done with

1434
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 4: the Baby as singles were sounding the same. He was

1435
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 4: putting out too many albums that had the exact same

1436
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 4: fucking drum pattern saying the same shit same. Then he

1437
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 4: brought up aids and sucking dick in a parking lot.

1438
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 4: Then the meg shit happened. It was just an array

1439
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 4: of things. It wasn't just hey, he's also baby, because

1440
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 4: he said he doesn't like AIDS. So it was a

1441
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 4: bunch of different things. It wasn't just fifty his career.

1442
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: It was a collage of ship and then that's how

1443
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: we ended up at the ape of Food Show.

1444
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 2: Yes, damn, he looks like here this article from March.

1445
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 2: He had a recent two million dollar lawsuit over a

1446
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 2: previous fight in Beverly Hills.

1447
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: Oh so that was his baby mother's brother, I believe.

1448
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: From twenty nineteen.

1449
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh that Bowling Alley shit.

1450
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, they facing two million, doesn't it? Every time you

1451
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 2: look his name up. There's just another case.

1452
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 4: You might as well sample Marvin Gay. At this point,

1453
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 4: you're just having a lot of money in court. You

1454
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 4: could just get a hit.

1455
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, just give that five milion to

1456
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: the Gates. And I understand he said some shit he shouldn't.

1457
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 4: Have said about the Gates, not those he said different.

1458
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: He said some crazy shit he shouldn't have said. But

1459
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: at the same time, we know that he's dealing with

1460
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: a lot. Mitch. This is some dude that first killed

1461
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: somebody in front of his kids and then was thrown

1462
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: it to start them like, hey, go beform. Now, we

1463
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: don't think Ted it was gonna be some type of

1464
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: like unstable decision making in the mix of all of that, like,

1465
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 1: here's somebody that just kills somebody and now we're gonna

1466
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: throw him on the stage and say all I sell records.

1467
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: And before with the Grammy, He's like, there's gonna be

1468
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: some some remnants of you know, PTSD pop up here and.

1469
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 3: That I don't think PTSD makes you homophobic, though, I

1470
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 3: don't know, no, no, no, I'm.

1471
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: Not saying I'm not saying anything. I said that war

1472
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: is pretty gay if you think about it.

1473
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:26,479
Speaker 2: It is.

1474
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what he just said.

1475
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 3: War is gay?

1476
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: A war is gay?

1477
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, A lot a lot of the fellas don't ask,

1478
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 4: don't tell. That's a wild gay policy.

1479
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: But sorry, Eddan, you got a lot.

1480
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 4: To I don't want to downplay the situation. What do

1481
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 4: you think the baby was buying at Walmart the day

1482
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 4: he killed that guy?

1483
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: It's Walmart. He could have been getting a helicopter or

1484
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: beach chair. It's Walmart.

1485
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 4: What do you think the baby was just strolling into

1486
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 4: a Charlotte Walmart and ran into the opposite.

1487
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: Probably was getting a bottle of iced tea. I've done

1488
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: that before at Walmart.

1489
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, Walmart, at the corner store.

1490
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: Oh you never you never been to the South that

1491
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: is the corner store.

1492
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 4: There's not a gas station anywhere.

1493
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: Walmart is the corner show.

1494
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 4: You guys are Charlotte boys.

1495
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 3: Walmart is also the gas station too.

1496
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: Don't club Walmart is? Walmart is everything?

1497
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 4: Well, how far is the ice tea? Is it on

1498
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 4: another acre?

1499
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? Walmart is pretty big, so you gotta get You

1500
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: actually got to jump in one of the golf carts

1501
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: and they take you down to the ice ti and

1502
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: that's what you ran into the ops.

1503
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 4: Could end up sucking dicking a parking lot at Walmart.

1504
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Dick, have been sucking a parking lot of

1505
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: walm and I can guarantee you that. But yea man,

1506
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know why we're seeing all this

1507
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: negative shit about uh something in the water and so

1508
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 1: many great artists on stage. But that's the ship that

1509
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: we push in our culture today. So it is what

1510
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: it is.

1511
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 4: I haven't seen Cardi b on any of these festival lineups.

1512
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 4: Is that odd?

1513
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 3: Well, she's doing ours, she's doing Hot nine seven headlining.

1514
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 4: Oh, she is headlining Summer Jill, Yes, got you. I

1515
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 4: just feel like I would have seen her in between

1516
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 4: these album cycles getting some more money.

1517
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 3: When are we going to get another card, getting some

1518
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 3: more money from festival lineups because she has a Walmart

1519
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 3: commercial right now, I think she's Carnie's making money from

1520
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 3: so many avenues that are not music. I think she's like,

1521
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 3: I don't even think she's a brush to return, But.

1522
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 4: The center of it is music, and no matter what,

1523
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 4: even if it's just doing festival stages, you need to

1524
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 4: stay relevant within music in some degree. We saw her

1525
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 4: put a single out with Kanye and Dirk and it

1526
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 4: completely flopped and outside because she is the best verse

1527
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 4: by far, but I'm saying, yeah, you can go do

1528
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 4: the Walmart ship forever, but if you're not staying relevant

1529
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 4: at least within music, it's tough. Let's let's have it.

1530
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 1: Let's have her conversation. Let's have a real conversation about Cardi.

1531
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: She easily has the best first album career in rap history.

1532
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: She won Grammy for Best Rap Album, She Was and

1533
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: Pepsi Commercials. She was invited to perform halftime at the

1534
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: Super Bowl off all of her first album and has

1535
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 1: not put out an album since. Why We've never seen

1536
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: nothing like this. Nobody has ever had that much success

1537
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 1: on their first album. Lauren Hill first album it was

1538
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: our first solo first album, Nobody.

1539
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 4: You don't count the album that.

1540
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: Laura Hill has never been invited to perform halftime at

1541
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: the super Bowl.

1542
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 4: You don't count her albums with the winning team from

1543
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 4: winning No ok.

1544
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 3: If a bitch before me, we're gonna be.

1545
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 1: Then you disappear. It's been what five years, six years

1546
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: since she put out an album.

1547
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 3: Party has not disappeared.

1548
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: I'm talking about as far as putting.

1549
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 2: Out of albums twenty eighteen, where's the album? April sixth? Actually,

1550
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 2: we just passed the.

1551
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 4: Takeout twenty twenty and a half of twenty twenty one.

1552
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 1: Why some of the best music we ever got was

1553
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: put out in twenty twenty.

1554
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 4: She's not coming pready back at that time. Yeah, I

1555
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 4: agree with you, but I'm saying she's not cut it

1556
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 4: out and artist like that, but it's not coming out

1557
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 4: of That.

1558
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 3: Was the pandemic single Oh Yes, And it was the

1559
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 3: biggest single of that year.

1560
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 2: That was this record that was Cardi and Meg But

1561
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 2: like that was a record that could never get played

1562
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 2: in the club because I was on lockdown. But that's

1563
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 2: still was the biggest record during the pandemic.

1564
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 1: Where's the album?

1565
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1566
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 2: She doesn't need to put out album.

1567
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 3: She doesn't need that's the thing. She doesn't need to

1568
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 3: put on an album.

1569
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 1: Carbon.

1570
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 3: She just put out the most talked about and when

1571
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 3: you're talking about in the scale of female rap, the

1572
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 3: most talked about verse of the year tomorrow too to

1573
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,919
Speaker 3: fire verse like everybody is everywhere is rapping that verse.

1574
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 3: That song is huge because of her. She like, I what.

1575
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: Where is y'all giving me all of these like fillers?

1576
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 1: Where is the album? You won best Rap Album of

1577
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 1: the Year.

1578
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 3: What you're saying you don't think she deserved No, she.

1579
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 1: Didn't deserve it. We ain't talking about it a secret.

1580
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 1: Come on, man, we're not doing that that that that

1581
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 1: was not a better rap album than Victory Lab.

1582
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 4: We're talk about the Grammys or Daytona. It's it's the

1583
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 4: Grammys her because her entire album was on Billboard for

1584
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 4: three years, of course it's going to get Rap Album

1585
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 4: of the.

1586
01:04:56,160 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: Year fam Grammys. Was that a better rap album than

1587
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 1: Victory Last.

1588
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 4: That's not what.

1589
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 3: Since when does the Grammy pick the right album?

1590
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: So this is my point, This is my point.

1591
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 4: It was a good album and it was the most popular.

1592
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 4: That's a Grammy right there.

1593
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 3: Yes, it was more popular than Daytona. Yes, it was

1594
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 3: more popular than Victory Lab.

1595
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 2: Yes, a lot more.

1596
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 1: Extremely So you think that Cardi had best Rap album? Yeah, yeah, Jack,

1597
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: that's not what we're are you jacking that?

1598
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 3: I think it was a really good rap album for

1599
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 3: her first It was a very good album.

1600
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: You don't, Yes, I do, and I love Cardi, But

1601
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 1: come on, rap album of the year that year?

1602
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 3: No, it was rap album of the year, got the album.

1603
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: But that's okay. Cool, Sometimes you get it wrong to

1604
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 1: gave Mackie More best Rap album.

1605
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 4: Right about the gram Cool, it happens.

1606
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 1: But now there's no other album for five years, there's

1607
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 1: no album. There's a couple of singles. You're telling me

1608
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 1: about singles, bro, you won best.

1609
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 4: Rap album, But why does she need to go one up?

1610
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 1: And why wouldn't Why wouldn't it Why wouldn't the industry

1611
01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: want Why wouldn't the label want to get out another album?

1612
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 1: She just want best Rap Album of the year and

1613
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 1: you nothing, no album for five years. When have we

1614
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 1: ever seen that happen?

1615
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 4: You have to realize what it takes to put a

1616
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 4: Cardi B and again, I don't even know it's outside

1617
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 4: looking in what it takes to put a Cardi B

1618
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 4: album together.

1619
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 1: We know what it takes to put a Cardi B

1620
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 1: out there, and how and.

1621
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 4: How delicate that is to put one out. Of course,

1622
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 4: I'd say I was shocked they even put out that

1623
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 4: Kanye Dirk shit. Granted, I know it's Kanye and Dirk,

1624
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 4: but the song stunk. So if that's what they've been

1625
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 4: working with for five years and they decided let's pull

1626
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 4: the trigger on this one, then clearly they haven't had

1627
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 4: ship in five years that was worth even putting an

1628
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 4: album together, let alone a single.

1629
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure the I'm not I'm

1630
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 3: gonna go off a limb. I'm pretty sure the album

1631
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 3: is done. And I feel like when they put hot

1632
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 3: Shit out and that flopped and made them reconsider.

1633
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 4: I think they have songs that will end up being

1634
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 4: on the album.

1635
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 3: They don't have an album, not the complete album yet.

1636
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 3: But I think a lot.

1637
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 4: Of people world you are arguing different points of.

1638
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 1: What we're I'm asking.

1639
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 3: Person.

1640
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 4: I think I think Nothing was the same was better

1641
01:06:58,240 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 4: than the Maclamore album. I think Good Kid, that City

1642
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 4: butter than Macamore.

1643
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 2: But you're asking like, are you asking your personal opinion?

1644
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:03,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think?

1645
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? But like I'm not like I'm not going to

1646
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 2: listen to a Cardi album.

1647
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: I'm asking. I'm just asking after World.

1648
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 2: To me, is a better album?

1649
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 1: Okay, That's all I'm asking. We ain't got to make

1650
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: this like this is not chemistry, but it's.

1651
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 2: But it also doesn't surprise me that Cardi won the Grammy. This,

1652
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 2: it does, It doesn't it surprised, doesn't.

1653
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 1: Surprise the rest of this surprise anybody, It's not it out.

1654
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 1: I'm the only one that was surprised that Cardi be

1655
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 1: one Rap Album of the Year in this room.

1656
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 4: This actually, matter of fact, I was less surprised that

1657
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 4: that one than the Maclamore Ship. You couldn't walk outside

1658
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 4: without nine out of eleven records being played every fucking

1659
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 4: and those were.

1660
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 2: Being in the places, the rooms that we moved. That

1661
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 2: Macamore Ship wasn't being played in any rift shop. It

1662
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 2: was just white people in Seattle.

1663
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 1: Why are you talking? I'm asking you about I know.

1664
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: But it's also you're forgetting about the popularity game when

1665
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: it comes to Grammys. No, I don't forget about it.

1666
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 4: Checked every box. It's so old, it was on the billboard.

1667
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 4: It was a woman like it checked every box she could.

1668
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 2: Have that historic element to that. That's that was their

1669
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 2: moment to champion a woman.

1670
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,919
Speaker 4: Don't look at me like that. I have to explain that. Yeah,

1671
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 4: come on, you don't think it helps at that time

1672
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 4: for a woman to have the most popular rap album

1673
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 4: and give her a Grammy.

1674
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 2: That was right off, right off the tail end of

1675
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 2: the me Too move, so y'all, so y'all, so y'allo, basically.

1676
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 4: Even though Cardi was the one that was me too

1677
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 4: and men and.

1678
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: So y'all basically the reverse reverse y'all approve.

1679
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was we all said that she didn't deserve it,

1680
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 3: that there were other people in the category who had

1681
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 3: better album. But this is the Grammys and they're not You.

1682
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 1: Didn't say she didn't deserve it. You didn't say that.

1683
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 2: I'm not saying she didn't deserve it now nobody, but

1684
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 2: I'm saying I was.

1685
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 1: The only one that said that.

1686
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 4: By Grammy standards, I say she deserves it. I'm staying

1687
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 4: on that ledge. By Grammy standards, yes, that album deserves

1688
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 4: Rap Album of the Year. It does.

1689
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: You have to. But that's the key element about the.

1690
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 4: Grammy and we're taking away from everything. Yes, As is great,

1691
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 4: Dayton is great. Yeah, Mac fucking album is good. It

1692
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 4: is Cardi B made a good album and Privacy is

1693
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 4: a good fucking album.

1694
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 1: So okay, So the nomination is good. That's that's a win. Yeah,

1695
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 1: actually won the wins. The win mall no being nominated,

1696
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 1: it's a great love being nominated. Being nominated is an

1697
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 1: amazing Look, it took.

1698
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 4: NAS thirty years to get a Grammy, like exactly my point,

1699
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 4: So I don't know what the surprise is here. Of

1700
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 4: course Cardi's.

1701
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 1: Gonna say it took NAS thirty years to get a Grammy,

1702
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:34,879
Speaker 1: and did say, you don't know what the surprise is.

1703
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 4: That Cardi B want a Grammy. Yes, we know where

1704
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:38,480
Speaker 4: theirs lie and popularity.

1705
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 1: You can't even say that in the same sentence. It

1706
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 1: took NOA thirty years to get a Grammy. Yeah, it

1707
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 1: took Cardi one album to get a Grammy.

1708
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 4: I know she never put out.

1709
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:46,599
Speaker 1: Another album again.

1710
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 4: So now we're discussing you're not surprised, we're discussing the

1711
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 4: validity of this award show, and that's what getting about them.

1712
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 4: That's what I'm talking about that's the shot I'm on.

1713
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 1: But that's what we're on. That's no. But that's ridiculous

1714
01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 1: that that that is, like, come.

1715
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 3: On, so you and you also want to know why

1716
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 3: Carti hasn't put out an album and what five years?

1717
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 3: Six years years, five years?

1718
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 1: It's insane to win Rap Album of the Year and

1719
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 1: not put out another How is that insane? Tell me

1720
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 1: when this happened before? That exactly when you win Best.

1721
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 4: Rap Album, Kendrick Lamar takes five years?

1722
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 3: Who's had a career like you saying? Tell you when

1723
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 3: it's happened before, But who's had a career go the

1724
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 3: way that Cardis has gone.

1725
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm asking you because if you win Best Rap Album, okay,

1726
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: Like example, Jack Harlow was nominated, right, his album was nominated,

1727
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 1: wasn't it?

1728
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 2: Yes, Come Home to King?

1729
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: He has another album out already, Okay, just off a nomination,

1730
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 1: just being nominated, because that means, okay, I'm in this

1731
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 1: league now where I have I'm a Grammy nominated artist.

1732
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 2: Fuck if you win, they're playing a different game.

1733
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 1: And yeah, you think you I'm not saying, I'm just saying,

1734
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 1: once you're a Grammy nominated artist, you can walk around

1735
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 1: with that. In every studio, every room you walk in

1736
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm Grammy nominated, they look at you totally different. If

1737
01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:00,719
Speaker 1: you actually get the fucking trophy, you get the award

1738
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 1: and actually win, the entire building is supposed to be

1739
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:06,719
Speaker 1: behind you, like, listen what we're doing.

1740
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 3: Which they are.

1741
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 4: So that's also not fair. And when Carti goes into studios,

1742
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 4: it's not because she has the Grammy trophy. It's because

1743
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 4: she has the personality, the popularity, the delivery, and the budget.

1744
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 1: Did I say she's going in there because she has

1745
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 1: no I'm saying that once you win a Grammy, you're

1746
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 1: already in a whole different category as a recording artist.

1747
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 1: If you're a Grammy winning artist, you walk in any room,

1748
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 1: it's a total different level of yo. So and so

1749
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 1: is here.

1750
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 4: But also everybody, she would.

1751
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 3: Still in that category even if she didn't win. She

1752
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 3: would still be next to those same people. Carti's career

1753
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 3: is unprecedented because of her personality and how she's made

1754
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:47,600
Speaker 3: her personality work for her. That's why she doesn't have

1755
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 3: to release another album. She has to released the album

1756
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 3: in five years and she has a Walmark commercial.

1757
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:54,759
Speaker 1: You keep telling me about personality and I'm talking about music.

1758
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 4: Well, that's what she brings to the music.

1759
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what any of these niggas persons.

1760
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 4: That's why that's her portion of the music, is her

1761
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 4: personality the music. When it comes to that album, she

1762
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 4: brought personality and delivery and that's it.

1763
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 2: Then they thought me the music is the risk of

1764
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 2: being vulnerable. Hardy's into space. To Demarus's point, no think

1765
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 2: about it, No think about mall hear me out. So

1766
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 2: when you put out, when you put out an album,

1767
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 2: you're now susceptible to criticism. Now people can judge you.

1768
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 2: If she doesn't do that, she's now people still can

1769
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 2: stamp her and know her namesake by her body of work,

1770
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 2: which is Invasion of Privacy, which has an album where

1771
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 2: all thirteen records, one platinum, has a Diamond record, three

1772
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 2: singles that were number one on the Billboard Hot one hundred,

1773
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 2: all the bells and whistles, all that shit. By putting

1774
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 2: another album, she's now putting herself in the crossfires again.

1775
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,680
Speaker 2: Why not do the shows, do the commercials, get the

1776
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 2: bag and all the other avenues, because her perception is

1777
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 2: still the number one. Why go out and be vulnerable?

1778
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 2: Why risk your public perception in the career.

1779
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 1: What are you talking?

1780
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 2: I'm saying, why risk yourself by putting on another album? Artists,

1781
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 2: she's more than She's more than that.

1782
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 4: That's a part of her.

1783
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, that's part of her. Can we get another album?

1784
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 1: She doesn't need to?

1785
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 3: All right?

1786
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 1: I say, keep you on my needs. If you win

1787
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 1: Best Rap Album, you can't not put out an album

1788
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 1: for five years.

1789
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 4: Okay. In same comparison again, Frank Ocean Coachella, when he

1790
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 4: walked outside, he fucked up and now it fucked his

1791
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 4: brand up. Cardi is in a similar situation. If she

1792
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 4: puts music out, it could fuck everything up. So she's

1793
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 4: gonna stick with her personality, which we know is back

1794
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 4: in a thousand.

1795
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 1: What do you mean it could fuck up? If she

1796
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 1: puts her music ran right now?

1797
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 3: People don't like it, especially that.

1798
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 4: Glow Realer Ship saved the Hot Ship record or whatever

1799
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 4: it was. She didn't put that verse out, it would

1800
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 4: look really funny in the light.

1801
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:46,679
Speaker 3: Right now, we all talk about the sophomore slump. If

1802
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 3: she comes and this album isn't fucking amazing, even if

1803
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 3: it's good, it has to be amazing. It has to

1804
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 3: have some similars of the success that she.

1805
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:56,680
Speaker 1: So how long does it take? How long does it

1806
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 1: take to me for the music to be like amazing?

1807
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 3: And Okay, well, first of all, let's not get this

1808
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 3: ship twisted because Cardi also had two kids in that gap. True,

1809
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 3: she had two kids in that gap. She lost the

1810
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:12,679
Speaker 3: family member in that gap and has still been working.

1811
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 3: So it ain't like she hasn't just been doing Ship

1812
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 3: and they're like, yo, you're just sitting in the studio

1813
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 3: doing absolutely nothing. Whereas the music she pushed out two

1814
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 3: kids in that in that sorry like she's a woman

1815
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 3: that affects things.

1816
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 2: It does.

1817
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 3: Our female rap artists don't have kids and during their

1818
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 3: prime can you name another one who has am I? Yeah,

1819
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 3: it doesn't happen. You don't do that. You don't become

1820
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:41,560
Speaker 3: the top female hip hop artist and go have a

1821
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 3: kid that's against everything you stand for. Nobody becomes a mom.

1822
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 4: It's the theme of to Zion, The point of this,

1823
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:50,719
Speaker 4: the pose your.

1824
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:54,839
Speaker 1: Head, the whole point of this whole uh talking point

1825
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,759
Speaker 1: was I just because first of all, I always champion

1826
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 1: Cardi big Bronx shit, But I'm just saying it's been

1827
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 1: five years. You want best rap album. We need another album,

1828
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.

1829
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 3: And if she, hypothetically speaking, if she never releases another

1830
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 3: one again, then what.

1831
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 1: Then that's a to me, that's a fail on her

1832
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: career to never put out another album, fail on her

1833
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 1: music career. You want best rap album and didn't never,

1834
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 1: never gave to people nothing else after that.

1835
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 2: Put it this way, no matter what she releases after this,

1836
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 2: it's not going to be as good as this album. Nothing.

1837
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm not even. I'm not even. I'm not trying to

1838
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 1: compare it to that album. I'm just saying, but the

1839
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 1: rest of the yeah, but we need another effort. We

1840
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 1: need another album. That is all I'm saying. It's been

1841
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 1: five years, and I get it. Life happens in between that.

1842
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 1: I get that. But what I'm saying is it's been

1843
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 1: five years and you want best rap album. We need

1844
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:46,719
Speaker 1: another rap album.

1845
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:48,719
Speaker 3: So if she doesn't give you one, it's a fail.

1846
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 1: That's her career for no. I think that she's feel

1847
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 1: she's failing her fans by not putting out another album.

1848
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 3: As a fan, I agree. I want to. I'm bad

1849
01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 3: as fun, but.

1850
01:15:58,080 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 2: I want to.

1851
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 1: I want to hear her second album for it I

1852
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 1: want to hit like, Okay, let me hear, let me

1853
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 1: hear what coming off with all of that, the success,

1854
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 1: the Pepsi deals, Walmart, all of the ship you got

1855
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 1: it to talk about.

1856
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 3: And if she wants another Grammy, will you respect her

1857
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 3: first one.

1858
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I don't respect the first one because

1859
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 1: it's hard to put it, put together album and put

1860
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: it out, and that in itself putting together album, getting

1861
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 1: put out is hard, so I respect it.

1862
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 4: Every song charts.

1863
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that looking back, that album wasn't better

1864
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 1: than Victory Lap. It wasn't better than the Astra World.

1865
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 4: It's a weird comparison.

1866
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 1: How is it a comparison. It's literally in the same group.

1867
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,600
Speaker 4: Again, I'm speaking to the Grammy. It's not to you,

1868
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 4: it's you talking to me. It's compared to those two albums.

1869
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:40,799
Speaker 4: Shouldn't even be in the same category.

1870
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 1: I want to talk to your white brethren about that.

1871
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 4: I don't know, mister Grammy. I wish I did, But.

1872
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 1: Bottom line, we need it's time for another Cardio album.

1873
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 1: You can't win best Rap album in the year. And

1874
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 1: then and granted, yes, she put out songs, she's been

1875
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: she's been visible she's been, you know, but we need

1876
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 1: a project. We need a full body of work. It's

1877
01:16:58,800 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 1: been five years. It's time.

1878
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 4: I agree, it's definitely tome.

1879
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 3: It's definitely time.

1880
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 4: But I know if we're gonna get one summer is

1881
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 4: about to come. We would maybe get a Cardi single

1882
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 4: this summer and then an album top of twenty twenty four. Yeah,

1883
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 4: I don't know if you're getting a Cardi album this year,

1884
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 4: it's already made.

1885
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if I'm getting one of

1886
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 1: the next five years. It's been five years. That's what

1887
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 1: that And that's my point, Like, what'll we be doing?

1888
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 1: You and best rap album? Like, all right, cool them out?

1889
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 4: Yo, Frank did it?

1890
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1891
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 3: I would do it if I was Cardi. I'm sorry

1892
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 3: if my personality makes me more money than my music,

1893
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 3: of course. Yeah.

1894
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 4: If I put you that money problem, how is that

1895
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:38,560
Speaker 4: a problem?

1896
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 1: Because you treat you treating the music like a hustle.

1897
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 2: That's what Cardi does, That's what all.

1898
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:47,679
Speaker 1: And that's what nah.

1899
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 3: I think the hustle is these people who are constantly

1900
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 3: putting out music, constantly putting out music, constantly putting out music,

1901
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 3: just two minute songs or putting out an album that

1902
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 3: has forty fucking songs so that you could get more

1903
01:17:57,960 --> 01:17:58,679
Speaker 3: more money for shure.

1904
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 1: But when you tell me, oh no, when you tell

1905
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 1: me she want best rap album of the year, I

1906
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 1: don't have to put out no music because I'm making

1907
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 1: money off my personality. It sounds like hustle.

1908
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 4: But she's admittedly like said that, she went into.

1909
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,719
Speaker 1: It as that's but that's the problem, and that's why

1910
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,879
Speaker 1: music is suffering. That's exactly why the music business is suffering.

1911
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:21,799
Speaker 1: I think people are treating it like a hustle.

1912
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 4: I think the direct angle of Cardi putting that album

1913
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:27,640
Speaker 4: out in it being successful even coming off the love

1914
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 4: and Hip hop shit, is where we got this influx

1915
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 4: of women rappers that are just coming for for the lick.

1916
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 1: For sure. They treating the music game like it's a

1917
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 1: hustle now to find a dope, talented, cute chick that raps.

1918
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 1: It's like, you hustle the music business. What happened to

1919
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 1: the passion? What happened to the art of it?

1920
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 4: We say that on the guy side too.

1921
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 1: It's all you know when I say it's a hustle

1922
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 1: to all around. But I'm just saying now it's a

1923
01:18:56,439 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 1: big thing to find the next hot pretty chick that

1924
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 1: raps and then put in the video with all the

1925
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 1: dudes behind her. It's a hustle, of course, and when

1926
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:09,679
Speaker 1: you hustle, some shit is gonna is gonna it's gonna

1927
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:13,799
Speaker 1: lack which the art of it, the passion, the real artistry,

1928
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 1: the music, the musicianship Like, where is that at in

1929
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 1: a lot of this music? It's lost because people don't

1930
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 1: care no more. We're just trying to get clicks, streams,

1931
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 1: sell tickets, sell products in Walmart, whatever. Like it. It's

1932
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 1: a hustle. I'm not mad at nobody getting they paper,

1933
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 1: but we gotta start putting more artistry back in the music.

1934
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 1: We gotta start paying attention to the real musicians, start

1935
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 1: putting some more light on that. Don't just give me

1936
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 1: oh her personality or his personality? What about their music?

1937
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 1: What about the bars? What about that type of shit too?

1938
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 1: But we can still hip hop, This is still music.

1939
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 4: We can get off Cardi in a second. But to

1940
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:53,719
Speaker 4: that point, I wouldn't even put Cardy in that catch

1941
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 4: a lick category anymore then Souse, she doesn't even play

1942
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 4: I think with her feature on the gloriala ship like

1943
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 4: That's seemed like they paid attention to every single bar,

1944
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 4: They paid attention to every last delivery on what she

1945
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:06,759
Speaker 4: was saying. They knew everything was gonna be a caption

1946
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 4: down to the video. That was real artistry, whether she

1947
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 4: wrote it. Cardi B's feature on glorialless and I think

1948
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 4: on Hot Shit she had the only verse that was good. Like,

1949
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 4: I think she pays attention to what she's doing. She's

1950
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 4: just not putting out shit to put it out for

1951
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 4: a hustle. At this point. She's very meticulous. I think

1952
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 4: that is what her artistry is, delivery and being meticulous

1953
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 4: on how she sounds and what other people are writing

1954
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 4: for her. That's also an art. How to get people

1955
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 4: to write for you is an artist in itself, especially

1956
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 4: when it's your personality. You don't think you think someone

1957
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:42,679
Speaker 4: else wrote. I like Balenciaga's the ones that look like socks.

1958
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 4: I know Cardi came in the studio and said that

1959
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 4: in such a funny way that the team that was

1960
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 4: around collaborating made that part of her delivery because she's

1961
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:53,599
Speaker 4: the only one that can say that in a way

1962
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 4: that we're gonna like it. So I think she's been

1963
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 4: very meticulous with that. The gloriala shit they do. Bitches

1964
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 4: should scissor she smoked that bar. That's important. So I

1965
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,560
Speaker 4: wouldn't say she's on the lick wave, yeah, because I

1966
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 4: think that.

1967
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 1: Time No Man music was a lick for Cardi. She

1968
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying now out of that motherfucker.

1969
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 2: Oh d It was crazy.

1970
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 3: If she got everything, if she considered music to be

1971
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 3: a hustle, she would put out ship all the time,

1972
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 3: just no, no, no.

1973
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 4: And I think now she's taking music. She found other

1974
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 4: hustles for sure, and music was one of them. Even

1975
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 4: when she was doing love thatipop, music became the next hustle.

1976
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:29,639
Speaker 1: I just think that is crazy that an artist used

1977
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 1: music as a lick and they gave a Best Rap

1978
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 1: Album of the Year.

1979
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 2: For it, and a super Bowl offer and a.

1980
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 1: Super Bowl offer all right, off the first album. This

1981
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:39,719
Speaker 1: is gonna fucking say that in rap.

1982
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 4: Ever, this is gonna sound crazy because we know fifty

1983
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 4: put his thousand hours in. But fifty has been on

1984
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 4: record saying that he just picked up rap because he

1985
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 4: needed a new lick, and then after he finished his

1986
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 4: lick with music, he moved on to the next lick.

1987
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 1: I'm not saying. I'm not saying that people don't use

1988
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 1: music as a lick, as a hustle. I'm not saying that.

1989
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying that cool. That's cool. We gotta start putting

1990
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 1: the artistry back, and even with somebody like fifty used

1991
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:05,240
Speaker 1: it for lick, here's a lot of art in it.

1992
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 4: I mean, of course, that's why I say. But fifty

1993
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 4: has been on record plenty of times.

1994
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 1: He didn't win Best Wrap out.

1995
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 4: I was selling cracked.

1996
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:12,639
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.

1997
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 4: Get rich of that trying out of Grammy. I would hope.

1998
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 1: I don't anything.

1999
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 4: I don't.

2000
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 1: I don't remember my best Rap album year. I don't

2001
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 1: think he won Best Rap Album. I could be wrong.

2002
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 1: That was a while ago, but I don't think get

2003
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 1: rich of trying one.

2004
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 2: He was any one Best New Artist nomination.

2005
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 4: Yeah wait, please go down? So like, what what year?

2006
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 4: What in two thousand and four to one Best forra

2007
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 4: op Album? Okay, yeah, he won Best Rap Album?

2008
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 1: No nominated, nominated, nominated, nominated, who nominated?

2009
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:48,679
Speaker 4: Who wanted?

2010
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,560
Speaker 1: That's a win, though, like I just said, being nominated

2011
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 1: as a win.

2012
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 4: Can you just type in Best Rap Album Grammy's two

2013
01:22:54,640 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 4: thousand and four winner. We don't have to keep I

2014
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:00,679
Speaker 4: just need.

2015
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 1: To know we're gonna keep.

2016
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 4: Close.

2017
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 2: Not even close, you know what, not even close college dropout?

2018
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:08,679
Speaker 2: Not close?

2019
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 4: What do you mean? Not close?

2020
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 2: Not close?

2021
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 4: It's not close.

2022
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 3: Why are you arguing with a kanye' Stamn? It's never

2023
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 3: gonna be close for him stock.

2024
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 1: Like I said, the art College drop I should have

2025
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 1: won the college drop out. A lot of art in

2026
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 1: that more art. You see what I'm saying. Kanye didn't

2027
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 1: get invited to perform at the super Bowl that year.

2028
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm just saying, bro, that's all. I'm just

2029
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to show y'all something. That's it. I

2030
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 1: love Cardi, Big Bronx shit, But come on, man.

2031
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:39,679
Speaker 4: I think Prince performed that year.

2032
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 1: So maybe yeah, but you see what I'm saying, like,

2033
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:44,640
Speaker 1: just come on, man, you win Best Rap Album and

2034
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 1: then you don't put out another album at all. Nah,

2035
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 1: we can't do that. We were not then rap?

2036
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 4: Are we talk to Kendrick Lamar?

2037
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 1: Damn? Yeah? I mean look at that Michaelmore.

2038
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 4: But Kendrick took a while to put album.

2039
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 1: That was crazy. But he didn't win though.

2040
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 3: Oh so the win is what matters the win, because

2041
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 3: you actually rush my next album, not rush.

2042
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 1: But it's been five years. I ain't say put one

2043
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 1: out next Monday. It's been five fucking years. What are

2044
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 1: we talking about?

2045
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:14,640
Speaker 4: COVID year doesn't count.

2046
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 1: We got some music, and we got music in the pandemic.

2047
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 1: That's better than a lot of this ship out right

2048
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 1: now is not putting out.

2049
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 2: That's like more indoor. Gardis not an indoor music artist.

2050
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 4: There's no way Cardi is coming out after a Grammy

2051
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 4: win with a COVID album.

2052
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:34,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, even though and Up Wop was like big COVID,

2053
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 2: but even Up was a little still caught up in

2054
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 2: that time too, after when those two singles both missed.

2055
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:43,600
Speaker 1: Outside Shanatis Nigga trying to tell me where music you

2056
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 1: got to listen to it.

2057
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 2: At cardis music? You want to listen to the crib?

2058
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 2: Me don't any artist music at all. I'm just saying,

2059
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 2: no one. I don't even think women like in the

2060
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 2: crib are playing like that's outside music, right the Marris

2061
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 2: can you, yeah, oh.

2062
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 3: No, it's outside music.

2063
01:24:57,160 --> 01:25:00,719
Speaker 1: I mean sure, but it is like wopping the creb

2064
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 1: is crazy.

2065
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 3: I was playing a wop in the crib I just played.

2066
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 1: I walk in your crib and you was just banging WP.

2067
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:09,679
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2068
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 4: I was just ready to give the wopla.

2069
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 3: I was ready to come here and I was playing.

2070
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 4: I was listening to on the way here, tripping on

2071
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 4: your leg.

2072
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 3: That is not last week.

2073
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, listening to wop on the way to work. Yes,

2074
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:27,560
Speaker 1: you's getting That's why your floors.

2075
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 2: Always get wet.

2076
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 1: We're gonna send the sports. So the Knicks lost game one,

2077
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 1: Just shut up. The Knicks lost Game one. Hopefully they

2078
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 1: bounced back for Game two.

2079
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 4: Uh.

2080
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 1: The fucking with the Warriors, That's what we want to

2081
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 1: talk about before we leave, because I know even she's

2082
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 1: been all over the place today. Steph Curry. If Steph

2083
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 1: Curry was six or eight, they would drug test him

2084
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:56,639
Speaker 1: after every game. I agree Steph Curry, and.

2085
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 4: I think they should Steph Curry against that.

2086
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 1: Steph Curry is with out of doubt.

2087
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:02,719
Speaker 4: I think they should drop test him now he's.

2088
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 1: Without a doubt a top five basketball player. I don't

2089
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 1: even think we can.

2090
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 4: I saw that tweet, the timeline.

2091
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:11,720
Speaker 1: We can't argue it no more.

2092
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 2: Bro.

2093
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 1: I've been saying this. I've been saying this for years.

2094
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 1: This is not something that I just said, because everybody like, oh,

2095
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 1: you're president at the moment. No, no, no, no, no,

2096
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 1: comb through, come through the timeline. I've been calling it

2097
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 1: for at least three years now. Steph Curry is a

2098
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:29,639
Speaker 1: top five NBA player of all time I have I

2099
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 1: have not seen five players better than Steph Curry. I'm

2100
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:35,200
Speaker 1: not matter me personally. I know people are going to

2101
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 1: go back to Bill Russell and Oscar Robinson and those

2102
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:40,719
Speaker 1: I wasn't alive to see those. Those those guys play

2103
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 1: no disrespect to those legends. In my lifetime, I have

2104
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 1: not seen five basketball players better than Steph Curry. And

2105
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 1: I think his performance last night in Game seven cements

2106
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 1: that he's a six foot one on a great day,

2107
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 1: not a super muscular guy, could be mistaken for a

2108
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 1: guy that's working at the concession stand. And he has

2109
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 1: literally changed the game of basketball around the world.

2110
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a lighte fifty points life, fifty points.

2111
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 1: Seven for eighteen from the and you know what the

2112
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 1: scary thing about this, he took thirty eight shots. The

2113
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 1: scary thing about that is Steph Curry could literally take

2114
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:23,679
Speaker 1: thirty eight shots every night and nobody in the organization

2115
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 1: will be mad at that, Oh, of course not.

2116
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 4: I think he should take fifty.

2117
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 1: So hit so hit. So now we got to start

2118
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 1: speaking to his greatness as well, because he knows I

2119
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 1: can do anything I want within this organization. I can

2120
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 1: take any shot I want. It's not a bad shot.

2121
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 1: I'm the greatest shoot of all time. But the fact

2122
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 1: that he still plays within the game and is as

2123
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 1: great as he is. But then Game seven, he showed

2124
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 1: everybody I am still the best guy in this league.

2125
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 1: I'm still the best player in this league. I'm still

2126
01:27:56,120 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 1: the reigning champion. I'm still the reigning finals MVP. It's

2127
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 1: hard to have these top five conversations about basketball players

2128
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 1: and to keep Steph Curry's name out of these conversations.

2129
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:10,559
Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta address it. Top five, you get

2130
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 1: top five.

2131
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 4: To your point of when Kad was on the team,

2132
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:16,559
Speaker 4: top five of self to chill for a second, still

2133
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 4: pull up from the logo every now and then, yeah,

2134
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:21,719
Speaker 4: like like it's just letting k rock because people saying,

2135
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 4: you know, everybody in the time out all Alan Ibson,

2136
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 4: Alan Ibson is.

2137
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 1: Not a better basketball player than Stephen Curry. He's not.

2138
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 1: And I'm an AI guy.

2139
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:30,719
Speaker 4: Alan Irison wouldn't say I was really.

2140
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 1: I was really outside when Ai was making an impact

2141
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:34,639
Speaker 1: in the NBA. Love Ai.

2142
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 4: He was in the club with him.

2143
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 1: He was in the club with him.

2144
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:40,759
Speaker 4: Different type of impact, different type of impacts, not an impact.

2145
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,800
Speaker 1: Steph currys, No, Steph ain't making that stefy And that's

2146
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 1: the thing, and that's I'm so glad you said that, Rory.

2147
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 1: And that's why I think Steph gets overlooked. You're never

2148
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 1: gonna see Steph in the club.

2149
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:52,679
Speaker 4: Because he's notches on Instagram.

2150
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 1: No, that's a that's a part of the lore. I agree,

2151
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 1: that's a part of He's not he's not on the nightclubs.

2152
01:28:58,040 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 1: He doesn't walk around with a bunch of.

2153
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 2: Jewelry on and hang out with John morantmore.

2154
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a bunch of tattoos. He's not. He's

2155
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 1: not the prototypical athlete.

2156
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 4: He didn't get a shame play wedding.

2157
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 1: Different type of animals, different type of beasts inside of him.

2158
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:13,600
Speaker 2: He wore curries with the suit.

2159
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:15,439
Speaker 4: Different beasts forgot.

2160
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 1: Oh, he's a different animal. But it's Game seven and

2161
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 1: everybody in that organization new he's not gonna let us lose.

2162
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:29,920
Speaker 1: And he performed fifty points. I mean, listen, man, I

2163
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 1: get it. I know everybody has it. They have their favorites.

2164
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 1: I know it's subjective to an extent. All I'm saying

2165
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:38,679
Speaker 1: is it's hard to continue to have this top five

2166
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 1: Greatest of all Time conversation and not have Steph Curry

2167
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 1: at the table. Are you figuring out your five?

2168
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2169
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:47,439
Speaker 4: I know my basketball opinion is not like really taking

2170
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 4: seriously well, any opinion I have on this podcast taken

2171
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 4: seriously true. I'm trying to think step of the players

2172
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 4: I actually watched. Yeah, I can't think of five better

2173
01:29:57,200 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 4: than Steph at.

2174
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 1: All, and and and and again. I know people think

2175
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 1: I hate Lebron and I don't. Lebron is he's a goat.

2176
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:08,519
Speaker 1: He's a goat. Wait, watched my seven that you've watched. Yeah,

2177
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 1: he's my seven. Who's six?

2178
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:12,679
Speaker 3: Who are your top seven?

2179
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:20,480
Speaker 1: Uh? Jordan's obviously Jordan, Jordan, Jordan, Cole, Steph, Steph.

2180
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:27,920
Speaker 4: Shack, damn magic heah, we didn't see bird. We didn't

2181
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 4: see bird, Broun. These are the ones you've seen.

2182
01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:31,639
Speaker 2: You got a bird above Bron.

2183
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:34,800
Speaker 1: That's kind of crazy.

2184
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, really, look the thing, the mental part of the

2185
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 2: game is why I can't put Bron as high as

2186
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 2: he deserves to.

2187
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 4: That's like saying Doja can make a better hip hop

2188
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:47,720
Speaker 4: album than Jacob. It's like the same.

2189
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 2: No, it's not because Steph, Steph. When duty calls Steph.

2190
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 4: Like who is it?

2191
01:30:57,800 --> 01:30:58,880
Speaker 1: What is he talking? Whole?

2192
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 4: And it's time to fight for America?

2193
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 1: I just listen.

2194
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:02,400
Speaker 4: This is this is this is why.

2195
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:04,240
Speaker 1: This is how I look at it, And this is

2196
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 1: because Stephan Lebron are facing off again once again.

2197
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:07,800
Speaker 2: I can't wait.

2198
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 1: If Lebron was STEP's height with Lebron's skill set, will

2199
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:17,240
Speaker 1: Lebron be a goat?

2200
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 4: But it's Steph gonna focus on dribbling and shooting the

2201
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 4: same way if he's the same height and body weight

2202
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:23,720
Speaker 4: as Lebron James, why not.

2203
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 1: Skill set is skill set.

2204
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 2: We don't even need to speculate, like just what Steph's

2205
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:30,839
Speaker 2: Steph's changed the game more than anyone.

2206
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:34,520
Speaker 1: He's changed. I'm just saying because a lot of Lebron's

2207
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 1: dominance is because physically he's just a fucking athlete. He's

2208
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 1: six ' eight to and change quick athletic. But if

2209
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 1: he was that in six one, if Steph Curry with

2210
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:54,880
Speaker 1: his skill set right now was six eight crazy. They

2211
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:56,760
Speaker 1: would have the needle at the at the at the lockero, like,

2212
01:31:56,920 --> 01:31:58,439
Speaker 1: let me get some of that blood fan, because there's

2213
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:00,960
Speaker 1: no way that you're not on something right now.

2214
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:03,880
Speaker 4: But that's really unfair because they would focus on different things,

2215
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:06,880
Speaker 4: like Broun doesn't have to be a lights out shooter

2216
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:09,360
Speaker 4: and he can just put his head down. Step Steph

2217
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 4: had shooting because of his sight.

2218
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 1: That's but that's something I don't like because we.

2219
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 4: Got it was the other way around. We got to

2220
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 4: pay would be Russell West.

2221
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 1: We gotta take that, we gotta we gotta take that,

2222
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:21,679
Speaker 1: we gotta take that. Just a shooter shit away from Steph.

2223
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 1: He's more than just a shooter, I agree, But he's

2224
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 1: a He's a complete basketball.

2225
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:27,799
Speaker 4: He gets in the paint. I'm not saying he doesn't.

2226
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 4: I'm just saying he focused. And why he is actually

2227
01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 4: able to get in the paint and drive sometimes is

2228
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 4: because everyone's terrified that he can shoot from any part

2229
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 4: of the court.

2230
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, absolutely, Listen. I get it. I understand that

2231
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:41,599
Speaker 1: the defense plays him differently than they would play Lebron.

2232
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:43,840
Speaker 4: I get that, But that's great that he knows also

2233
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 4: how to get in the paint and finish Pauls. But

2234
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 4: it's a it's just a weird that's just a weird

2235
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 4: comparison to me, because I don't think Bron would focus

2236
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:55,560
Speaker 4: on that if if they switched, if they had a

2237
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:58,840
Speaker 4: freaky Friday moment, just I feel like Steph would just

2238
01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:00,679
Speaker 4: go in the paint and fucking dnunt go on people.

2239
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 4: I don't know if he'd beat lights out and focused

2240
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 4: on his game in that way.

2241
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 2: Steph never like when the moment when when I said,

2242
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 2: when Dudi calls, when it's game seven in the whole

2243
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:11,559
Speaker 2: series and the whole franchise on the line, he never

2244
01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:17,000
Speaker 2: under delivers. He always does more than And that's the

2245
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:19,880
Speaker 2: major difference between a player like Steph and Lebron.

2246
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:24,880
Speaker 1: We just gotta, we just gotta. He's a top five player, man, I'm.

2247
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:25,920
Speaker 4: With you, agree with you.

2248
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:33,960
Speaker 1: I have never seen any player that can completely take

2249
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 1: over a game. I haven't seen five that do it

2250
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 1: the way Steph does. That just delivers Tom and Tom again.

2251
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:45,679
Speaker 1: Like if he has a bad game, it's never usually

2252
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:47,640
Speaker 1: two in a row. He comes back the next game

2253
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:50,320
Speaker 1: He's gonna kill you. So that just speaks to just

2254
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:53,760
Speaker 1: the time that he puts in on his craft, his

2255
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:57,679
Speaker 1: his dedication to his game, and it's just he's a winner.

2256
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 1: I mean, what else do you want him to do?

2257
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:02,760
Speaker 1: Like I understand people say, oh, he only has one

2258
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:06,800
Speaker 1: finals MVP, like yeah, but we understand Katie was gonna

2259
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:08,640
Speaker 1: get it if he was on that team and they won,

2260
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:10,760
Speaker 1: Like we understand that Katie is a seven foot guard,

2261
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 1: just get it.

2262
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:13,559
Speaker 4: We want him to go to one Oak Moore.

2263
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:15,519
Speaker 1: No, but that's fucked up because if he was that

2264
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:17,360
Speaker 1: type of guy, if he was a guy that was

2265
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 1: standing on couches, probably wouldn't be lights out in his mouth.

2266
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:22,599
Speaker 1: It would be a lot more talks about him. He's

2267
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:24,360
Speaker 1: easy to It's kind of like the Tim Duncan thing.

2268
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:26,680
Speaker 1: Like a lot of people overlook Tim Duncan when they

2269
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 1: talked the Greatest Ever because he didn't hit his fashion.

2270
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 4: It was just he's a fashion I was like five

2271
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 4: rings and I'm sure he just did a backyard.

2272
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 1: Like he's like, yeah, he's a fashion icon. If you ask,

2273
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 1: it takes a lot of you gotta know yourself to

2274
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 1: wear this shit. Tim Duncan was wearing like you gotta

2275
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:45,559
Speaker 1: not give a fuck, and he just gets overlooked because

2276
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 1: of his you know, the lack of ego, like he

2277
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:49,160
Speaker 1: didn't really have an ego.

2278
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:52,559
Speaker 4: Man, that's just a good Christian West Indian man.

2279
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:54,639
Speaker 1: I get it. No, I get it, man. I listen, bro,

2280
01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 1: if you told me that this guy is top five

2281
01:34:57,160 --> 01:34:58,960
Speaker 1: ever and I'm not mad at people having Tim duncan

2282
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 1: top five, I would be like, you gotta be kidding

2283
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:03,240
Speaker 1: me about it.

2284
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 4: He would have to be in top five that I

2285
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:09,080
Speaker 4: actually watched. I might take Jordan out of who I watched.

2286
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 4: I watched him, but I was a fucking child who

2287
01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:18,960
Speaker 4: I watched, watched Shaq, Kobe, Steph lebron lebron.

2288
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 2: K d.

2289
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 4: But I think I maybe have to put Tim Duncans

2290
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:23,840
Speaker 4: somewhere there.

2291
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you watched, you saw Tim definitely watched. He's not

2292
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:28,760
Speaker 1: in your top five.

2293
01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:31,640
Speaker 4: I just named it. I don't. I'd have to take

2294
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 4: Steph Curry off.

2295
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:38,080
Speaker 1: You ain't taking Steph off. Okay, Katie you got Katie

2296
01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:42,719
Speaker 1: before Steph. Oh, Tim, you got Katie before Tim Duncans.

2297
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:45,200
Speaker 4: As dominant players that I've watched.

2298
01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:49,760
Speaker 1: Dominant, Tim Duncan is did. He's the fucking epitome of dominant.

2299
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:51,120
Speaker 4: It was a system.

2300
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:57,519
Speaker 1: It was a system because of who pop So how

2301
01:35:57,520 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 1: many they one system.

2302
01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:00,920
Speaker 4: They've done not?

2303
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:03,600
Speaker 1: How many have they won one or two? They have

2304
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:05,600
Speaker 1: not won? No championship without Tim Duncan. What are you

2305
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:06,760
Speaker 1: talking about having no?

2306
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:07,599
Speaker 4: I didn't know?

2307
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 1: No, no one, no. How many times you want to

2308
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:13,200
Speaker 1: say no.

2309
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:15,880
Speaker 4: Person win one?

2310
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:19,280
Speaker 2: No without Tim?

2311
01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 1: What was he talking about?

2312
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 2: They also made the playoffs like seventeen years in a row, and.

2313
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:26,599
Speaker 1: I'm asking a question, how many did they wa was my.

2314
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 4: Manza from the Raptors and Clippers that was sitting Tim Duncan?

2315
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:32,840
Speaker 4: Was there Kawhi one one with Tim?

2316
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:33,080
Speaker 2: Was there?

2317
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:33,799
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely?

2318
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:34,760
Speaker 4: Why did I just think it was some of the

2319
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:39,599
Speaker 4: Russians in Kawhi Russians, Russian whatever, some crazy white boys

2320
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:40,280
Speaker 4: that Genobili.

2321
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:49,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, Era and no it's not. Tony Balkers is French? Like,

2322
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Kawhi is from California? What

2323
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:54,000
Speaker 1: are you talking about?

2324
01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 2: That world Russian involved with that franchise?

2325
01:36:57,360 --> 01:36:58,360
Speaker 4: Don't have crazy last name?

2326
01:36:58,439 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 1: Well, Papa Bitch?

2327
01:36:59,760 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2328
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 2: Is he Russian's pop Rushing It's a very.

2329
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:04,479
Speaker 1: Look like yeah, I feel like we would know if

2330
01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:05,719
Speaker 1: Papovic was Russian name.

2331
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 4: He might be in go hoots.

2332
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:09,719
Speaker 2: He's from Indiana that's.

2333
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:14,160
Speaker 1: Definitely not Russian ib Ashkenazi.

2334
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 2: What's the guy Serbian in Croatian has a.

2335
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:21,680
Speaker 4: Lot of Middle Easterns, Czechoslovakians and ship a lot of

2336
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:24,920
Speaker 4: Polish people and Polish people to you. Okay, yeah, same

2337
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 4: as Argentina and Franz.

2338
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:28,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, but ans a question. No, the Spurs did not

2339
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:29,320
Speaker 1: have a championship.

2340
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 4: I thought Kawhi got one without Tim Duncan.

2341
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:34,479
Speaker 2: Then I stayed esp and bring Tim Duncan the eighth

2342
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:35,160
Speaker 2: best player.

2343
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:37,479
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at that. He's top ten for sure.

2344
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:40,719
Speaker 4: Okay, so the my five, would you agree or disagree?

2345
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:42,360
Speaker 4: If we take out Katie and put Tim Duncan, that

2346
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:46,880
Speaker 4: would be Lebron, Kobe Shaq, Tim Duncan, Steph Curry.

2347
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:49,599
Speaker 2: I'm not mad at that you got Bron at one

2348
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:51,960
Speaker 2: that wasn't in order. I was just we're just.

2349
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:55,880
Speaker 4: Saying, yeah, he'll probably be well.

2350
01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:58,599
Speaker 1: I'm just excited to uh to see this matchup. It's

2351
01:37:58,640 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 1: hard for me because I'm a Laker fan, but I

2352
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 1: just I don't think we got enough to beat the Warriors.

2353
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:04,559
Speaker 2: Man, they wanted Sacramento so bad.

2354
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:06,400
Speaker 1: I don't think that's why.

2355
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:06,960
Speaker 2: I know.

2356
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:09,320
Speaker 1: I think Sacramento it would be worse. I think they

2357
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:10,960
Speaker 1: actually match up better against the Warriors.

2358
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:12,600
Speaker 2: Playoffs are all about experience.

2359
01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:13,760
Speaker 1: It's all about matchups.

2360
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:17,680
Speaker 2: Experience too. The sack the young they were young, you

2361
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 2: could see it and experienced.

2362
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:21,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, novice basketball fan over here. The Warriors are going

2363
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:22,880
Speaker 4: to fucking cook the Lakers.

2364
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 2: I hope they do.

2365
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:25,439
Speaker 1: Damn man, what watch your mouth?

2366
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 4: They are kind of cook them.

2367
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:32,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that. It hurts, man, It hurts.

2368
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 2: Steph shoots fifty times every game.

2369
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:34,639
Speaker 1: It hurts.

2370
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:36,800
Speaker 4: I think the Lakers may have been able to beat

2371
01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:40,800
Speaker 4: the Kings in seven. Nah, the Warriors are going to cook.

2372
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:43,439
Speaker 1: You know why. I'm gonna tell I'm gonna tell you why.

2373
01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 1: I don't have much faith in my Lakers with this.

2374
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:48,160
Speaker 4: Matchup, Like would it be the overall team?

2375
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:51,640
Speaker 1: No, it's I don't believe in Anthony Davis. Man. I

2376
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:55,799
Speaker 1: just he played great against Yeah, he played great against Memphis,

2377
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:57,719
Speaker 1: but I don't know how much, how many more games

2378
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:00,240
Speaker 1: that we got left, and I just don't think that

2379
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 1: the Warrior isn't gonna allow them to beat beat them.

2380
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 1: So it's sad. I didn't want this match up, but

2381
01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:09,559
Speaker 1: I am glad that the Lakers got out the first round.

2382
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:11,280
Speaker 1: So to me, that's the win we got out of

2383
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:13,760
Speaker 1: this kind of like being nominated for Grammy. That's got

2384
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:14,599
Speaker 1: out of the first round.

2385
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:17,920
Speaker 4: Cool, better be there five years after this stuff.

2386
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:20,519
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, imagine see imagine that the Lakers win

2387
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:22,840
Speaker 1: the championship and then don't get to the playoffs for

2388
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:23,479
Speaker 1: the next five years.

2389
01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:25,479
Speaker 4: I feel like that almost happened after the bat you

2390
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:27,479
Speaker 4: won that Mickey Mouse, right, which.

2391
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:30,080
Speaker 1: Is why I don't count that ring because we got eliminated,

2392
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:31,880
Speaker 1: but you missed the playoffs the next year and got

2393
01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 1: eliminated the first round after.

2394
01:39:33,160 --> 01:39:35,759
Speaker 4: That Cardi's Grammy, all right, No, I'm just adding.

2395
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:36,800
Speaker 2: You think that Nicks are going to come back on

2396
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:37,240
Speaker 2: the Heat.

2397
01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 1: I do. I think the Knicks. I think they match

2398
01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:42,760
Speaker 1: up well against the Heat. I think that they had

2399
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:47,639
Speaker 1: that game last night, the second half garbage. I love Brunting,

2400
01:39:47,720 --> 01:39:50,400
Speaker 1: but for some reason, he just doesn't stay aggressive for

2401
01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:51,600
Speaker 1: four quarters enough for me.

2402
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 2: I mean it's kind of everything, yeah, but.

2403
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:57,280
Speaker 1: He kind of defers a little bit. Like if I'm

2404
01:39:57,320 --> 01:40:00,479
Speaker 1: brunting on that next team and somebody else comes down

2405
01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:01,760
Speaker 1: and takes a shot and I don't get a shot

2406
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 1: in three possessions, I'm cursing somebody to fuck give me

2407
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:06,760
Speaker 1: the fucking ball, Like, give me the ball, y'all not

2408
01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 1: better than me, Give me the ball. We down by six.

2409
01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:11,120
Speaker 1: We need a fucking bucket. Give me the ball.

2410
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:13,240
Speaker 4: Nah, we need to let RJ. Barrett try to draw

2411
01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:13,799
Speaker 4: a foul.

2412
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:17,559
Speaker 1: Man and and shout out the object because he played

2413
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:19,320
Speaker 1: well against the Cat in that series he played. He

2414
01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:20,040
Speaker 1: played great against the.

2415
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:21,320
Speaker 4: Cat, pissing me off that third quarter.

2416
01:40:21,400 --> 01:40:23,839
Speaker 1: But the Knicks guy, y'all got they gotta give Brunching

2417
01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:26,280
Speaker 1: the ball and let him. Let him decide what we're

2418
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:29,680
Speaker 1: gonna do, Like, don't start going one on one and

2419
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:32,200
Speaker 1: spin move and try to get a foul. No, no,

2420
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:34,760
Speaker 1: no, no no, give Brunching the ball. Well, he's the best

2421
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:36,960
Speaker 1: player out there. Give him the ball. Let him make

2422
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:37,439
Speaker 1: the decision.

2423
01:40:37,479 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 4: What was fucked up is where they should have sat

2424
01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:41,519
Speaker 4: him was like mid third quarter. But we were getting

2425
01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:45,920
Speaker 4: our fucking boots, yeah smoked at that time, so we

2426
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:47,439
Speaker 4: needed brunts, and then we ended up sitting them in

2427
01:40:47,439 --> 01:40:49,880
Speaker 4: the fourth. Yeah, it just got it got weird.

2428
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:53,360
Speaker 1: Well, hopefully Julius would be back for Game two, and

2429
01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:54,840
Speaker 1: hopefully they'll get a winning game two.

2430
01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:55,720
Speaker 4: Uh.

2431
01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:59,920
Speaker 1: And then the Sixers and the Celtics play That's gonna

2432
01:40:59,920 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 1: be fun series two Celtics playoffs. In my opinion, Oh,

2433
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:07,880
Speaker 1: the Sacramental Golden State was the best series of the playoffs.

2434
01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:09,559
Speaker 1: That first round, that was the finals, that was the

2435
01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:10,880
Speaker 1: Western Conference finals matchup.

2436
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:13,400
Speaker 4: And I think the sixer Celtics trying to get something similar.

2437
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:16,519
Speaker 1: I think the Celtics win in five. I don't believe

2438
01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:18,960
Speaker 1: in the Sixers. I think that James is gonna disappear

2439
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:24,240
Speaker 1: once again. Yeah, I got the Celtics in five. Uh

2440
01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:24,840
Speaker 1: so yeah?

2441
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:25,080
Speaker 4: Man?

2442
01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:29,000
Speaker 1: Uh birthday this week, man, Happy birthday. Yes, I'm gonna

2443
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:30,920
Speaker 1: say it early, even though your birthday is later on

2444
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:33,280
Speaker 1: this week, I'm gonna say it early. Happy birthday. Has

2445
01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:35,000
Speaker 1: been a pleasure building's with you, my brother.

2446
01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:35,559
Speaker 4: Thanks man.

2447
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure watching you achieve all of your

2448
01:41:38,240 --> 01:41:40,160
Speaker 1: goals that you set. It's been a pleasure watching you

2449
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:41,360
Speaker 1: mature as a man.

2450
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:42,840
Speaker 4: Get older, get older.

2451
01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:46,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it's been a pleasure to experience this with you.

2452
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:50,280
Speaker 1: Many more years of blessings, health, success. Let's continue to

2453
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:54,840
Speaker 1: kick ass and take names. With that being said, I'm

2454
01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:57,639
Speaker 1: I'm that nigga. He's just Ginger.

2455
01:41:57,880 --> 01:42:00,519
Speaker 4: Peace, Happy birthday and now