Speaker 1: What's happening everybody? Welcome to another episode Against the Chronicles
Speaker 1: podcast And I got my dog in here about time?
Speaker 1: What's up, big James? Oh it ain't that much man,
Speaker 1: Just ready to work? Yeah for sure, man, were We're
Speaker 1: getting right into it. So you have been me and
Speaker 1: you have been talking, and um you finally caught up
Speaker 1: with Snowfall. Yeah. I actually started off at an episode five,
Speaker 1: eight to ten, and I was so intrigued with those three. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm I started all the way at the beginning. Man,
Speaker 1: it's a cold as cold as play. How much does
Speaker 1: that mirror the actual time here out here in l A. Man,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of a lot of ship in that
Speaker 1: movie and and that series is is dead point, dead
Speaker 1: on point. Man. You know I'm watching and I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: this ship really happens. This is some real ship, especially Incomfater.
Speaker 1: This really happens Incomater. And I'm thinking, who wrote this ship?
Speaker 1: Is this somebody that of like that living this lifestyle
Speaker 1: or what? So let's see that that was John Singleton
Speaker 1: rest in peace before you know? Before that, you know,
Speaker 1: Sean Singleton, The Boys and the Hood and everything else
Speaker 1: is real, authentic l A Cat you know right right, Well,
Speaker 1: he had to have somebody to lashan with that. You know,
Speaker 1: I looked, I looked at a lot of it, like
Speaker 1: the Franklin cat. You know, I'm I'm depicting in everybody.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at everybody how they're getting down? Um, the
Speaker 1: uncle is a cold one. But Franklin looking at looking
Speaker 1: at it from from everod so one. He didn't know
Speaker 1: what he wanted to do. He didn't know if this
Speaker 1: lifestyle was good for him. After they took old Boy
Speaker 1: out that winning there the booty bandit, Yeah, after they
Speaker 1: got rid of him off the freeway, he gave old
Speaker 1: Boy to bag money and and told him he done y'all.
Speaker 1: So at the beginning of it, that wasn't for him.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like I was telling your
Speaker 1: early is a different I always say gangster by nature,
Speaker 1: not by choice. You know, some cats out here live
Speaker 1: that life, but you know they wasn't born and raised
Speaker 1: into it, you know what I'm saying. So you know
Speaker 1: something has choose to live that life. Oh, this is
Speaker 1: what I want to do. Because they see the next
Speaker 1: cat how he getting down? No, the real cats is
Speaker 1: like this's by nature and he didn't grow into it
Speaker 1: like that. He just man that. But he became a beast.
Speaker 1: Now let me ask you this, bro. You know you
Speaker 1: saw him go from that propression of being a dude
Speaker 1: that didn't want no smoke with nobody Harley to be
Speaker 1: in a stone cold killer, no hesitation. How often does
Speaker 1: that happen in the streets for real? Uh? Man? That's
Speaker 1: pretty much every day nor somebody get turned out. Some
Speaker 1: cats become that way because they tired of getting picked on.
Speaker 1: Some cats become that way because the way they was
Speaker 1: brought up. You know, the father, they their father picked
Speaker 1: some of these cats just like that, just period is
Speaker 1: in them. But every day, man, every day, you you're
Speaker 1: going ahead to pick and choose what you're gonna do.
Speaker 1: Some cats don't pick up the gun. They go the
Speaker 1: other way, or they moved by the state or something.
Speaker 1: But every day somebody get turned out to their life
Speaker 1: every day. Now, during that era, like during that era
Speaker 1: back then, what was the worst city? Because I know
Speaker 1: that in l A was comping the most turned up
Speaker 1: city kind of back back during that time period. Well,
Speaker 1: when I was growing up, I wouldn't I never paid
Speaker 1: attention to if l A was the worst is I
Speaker 1: know Watt's always been somewhere. You know, the afterwards they
Speaker 1: get a regular couldn't go to watch period. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It was no way through there. Um,
Speaker 1: Compton was rough, you know, going up over there and
Speaker 1: since said, you know, people getting killed, But I always
Speaker 1: focused on Compton. How you know the level we was
Speaker 1: only competent, not a and none of that, but as
Speaker 1: biggest encompass. So you know it was off the hood. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can imagine because I didn't get it. I didn't
Speaker 1: take down all here into so I was kind of
Speaker 1: coming in almost at the til the end of everything. Right.
Speaker 1: Eighty eight is when I got out of prison, So
Speaker 1: it was still gun hole in eight. It was still
Speaker 1: cracking in eight. So you know it was definitely cracking.
Speaker 1: But I'm thinking, I'm thinking from what I hear from people,
Speaker 1: they say eighty six and eighties five was really really cracking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was rough, No eighty three eight a eighty three.
Speaker 1: You had to be who you was, It had to
Speaker 1: be in you to be a part of it. If
Speaker 1: it wouldn't, then you you was getting your ass toe
Speaker 1: up and rip the part, you know, if you wouldn't,
Speaker 1: if if you couldn't make it, then you wouldn't gonna
Speaker 1: make it at all. A lot niggas got pumped, and
Speaker 1: a lot of niggas wouldn't come outside, and they a
Speaker 1: lot of niggas wouldn't come outside and eighty three, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So that's when motherfucker started getting shot.
Speaker 1: So when the pistol play came, a lot of them
Speaker 1: didn't want to A lot of them couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: Just like this dude, Franklin. He never carried a pistol.
Speaker 1: His uncle was to do you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: His uncle, His uncle is like my uncle bolog you
Speaker 1: know Foster, my grandfather. Uh. He was the one that
Speaker 1: hunk in the project stood. He was a slassing boy. Uh.
Speaker 1: He was the one that was with the business. My
Speaker 1: oldest uncle rest in peace. And you know Bolo was
Speaker 1: a motherfucker. He was a motherfucker. He was somebody. You know.
Speaker 1: He had a continental with the suicide doors and then
Speaker 1: his glove compartment. Then they had uh bofo and uh
Speaker 1: North three fitty seven and a pair of handcuffs. And
Speaker 1: he was a monster. And I be intrigued by that
Speaker 1: ship dog, you know, Dad be rolling like that and
Speaker 1: woo woo, and it was some cold ship. Everything I've
Speaker 1: seen every episode reminded me of something growing up and
Speaker 1: seen it. I can honestly tell you that's some real
Speaker 1: ship they've showing in there. You know. Let me ask you, James.
Speaker 1: You know, we talked a little bit earlier about the
Speaker 1: scene when Franklin and Leon went back over to get
Speaker 1: the money. They took one of the big homies I
Speaker 1: guess from the hood to go retreat the money from
Speaker 1: new guys and he bought the snakes and du in
Speaker 1: the bedroom and taking his manhood from him. Was it
Speaker 1: really stuff going down like that? Oh yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: big time. Mind you going going to the county jail.
Speaker 1: And I know everybody that listened to this show can
Speaker 1: contest contestify to this. You had guys getting ripped in
Speaker 1: the county jail, you know what I'm saying, coming in
Speaker 1: there being a blood the whole Monduus bloods and a
Speaker 1: guy coming there and wrapping somebodyhood didn't know who he was,
Speaker 1: and the gee on the je homies didn't know him.
Speaker 1: Oh you're just gonna get raped and get put in
Speaker 1: the far sack. So yeah, that was that man on
Speaker 1: the streets. That ship happens. Hold on what is the
Speaker 1: front saying, they put you in a big gass like
Speaker 1: a laundry bag, a big ass pillow case, and they
Speaker 1: put you in in that motherfucking daddy to come out. Motherfucker's
Speaker 1: wouldn't come out. They motherfucker. They put you in the
Speaker 1: first second and you get your ass booked everybody to
Speaker 1: sell being your ass. But I mean, yeah, that ship happens.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. When when he nutt it up and
Speaker 1: he drunk that dude in the room, I was like,
Speaker 1: oh ship, And then he told him he ain't he
Speaker 1: killing him, he going to vining. I was like, whoa
Speaker 1: some real shick I like that. And he just walked
Speaker 1: up and just looked at the niggs. They said, well, what,
Speaker 1: that's my money. He looked at them like, that's the
Speaker 1: bully in the hood. That's the that's the homie that
Speaker 1: know these niggers and bitches. That's the one that he
Speaker 1: just got up and say, that's grow down. I'm funk
Speaker 1: you niggas because you nigga's business. And for real, for real,
Speaker 1: Franklin was a bits at that time. Franklin walk watched
Speaker 1: them walk out the dough the niggat and pushed Franklin
Speaker 1: told him to shut the funk up, nigga, you soft everything.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, Franklin wind up
Speaker 1: being a motherfucking monster. Yeah he did. You know, what
Speaker 1: do you think about the Leon character. That's my that's
Speaker 1: my favorite character on the show. No, Leon is Leon.
Speaker 1: At first he was kind of like a hot here
Speaker 1: to do it, you know, a little hood dude. You're
Speaker 1: a smart little cat educational wise. And then he put
Speaker 1: two and two together quick that that's a smart little cat.
Speaker 1: And he with the business. And you can tell he
Speaker 1: with it because nobody in the hood or any projects
Speaker 1: would with him. He was running the ship. So he
Speaker 1: run this ship over there, yeah, because he was going
Speaker 1: back and forth to jail, I think, and he ran
Speaker 1: across a few of his homeboys that he's seen, you know,
Speaker 1: going through jail. M hmm. But but you know, going
Speaker 1: back to this stuff though, James, the thing I liked
Speaker 1: about Leon is I've actually known cats like that. They
Speaker 1: just um kind of saw the light and started walking
Speaker 1: a different path because they realized that the path was
Speaker 1: on was one of destructions. So they kind of you know,
Speaker 1: switched their life around. Is you know some of them
Speaker 1: dudes his pastors today, some of them truck drivers, just
Speaker 1: different dudes that used to be really with the business.
Speaker 1: But watching the snowfall, man, it actually showed that all
Speaker 1: of those guys, especially when they got on that LSD
Speaker 1: ship up whatever that drug was, at the weddings, all
Speaker 1: of them started seeing different ships. All of those guys
Speaker 1: really tried or wanted to change their life. They tried
Speaker 1: to change. And that's what you see every day with everybody,
Speaker 1: yourself and me, uh, everybody. Everybody tried to change at
Speaker 1: some point. You got to be You got to because
Speaker 1: if we're getting older, broke and still doing the same
Speaker 1: stuff that we did when we were sixteen, seventeen eighteen,
Speaker 1: something's wrong some destructions. I mean, you don't want nothing
Speaker 1: in life if you keep thinking like that. If fifty
Speaker 1: fifty seven years old, man, I can't keep walking like that.
Speaker 1: You can't keep selling drugs, uh for more to years
Speaker 1: and not get busted. You can't continue to shoot at
Speaker 1: people for a long period of time before your name
Speaker 1: come up in the system and they tried to kill
Speaker 1: you theirselfs the So yeah, man, it is a lot
Speaker 1: of those guys, I knew it was time to change
Speaker 1: their life. Like the uncle, like I had a serious tantrum.
Speaker 1: He had a street Uh, his temper was a motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he was put the whoop somebody's ass. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you look at him and and he've been in a
Speaker 1: certain kind of way. He just get mad. He just
Speaker 1: get mad. So yeah, man, it showed how how real
Speaker 1: motherfucker's be out there in the streets. That's what you
Speaker 1: damn show did that, you know, you know one of
Speaker 1: the things that I thought was real funny though. You
Speaker 1: know what uncle's a wrong big Uncle's room, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: him and his wife. Did you see in the first
Speaker 1: episode when Franklin kinn I think it was either the
Speaker 1: second episode maybe when Franklin first one and got the
Speaker 1: y We went up to the bay and got the
Speaker 1: yea and came back and his uncle kind of told him, Man,
Speaker 1: I don't want to mess with that cocaine. Everything his
Speaker 1: uncle told him was gonna happen. Wound the baper right
Speaker 1: because Uncle Uncle been there, you said when he first
Speaker 1: start off. Uncle in the front yard, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: pumping the iron and ship. That's how nik It's used
Speaker 1: to do it back in the days, but un wasn't
Speaker 1: on bad page right there. I think selling we, pushing
Speaker 1: we was his limit at the time, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So he was already setting his ways. Nephew
Speaker 1: and them just just elevated the situation point and and
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, he didn't have no
Speaker 1: choice but to jump in it because the money was
Speaker 1: for real, the money was still so man, that's that's
Speaker 1: I gotta watch all of it. Yeah, because he said.
Speaker 1: You know, if you noticed when he told Louis his girl,
Speaker 1: he wanted to mirrory you right right before we told
Speaker 1: him that let's get mirror. He told her, I gotta
Speaker 1: start back doing me. I gotta get back to my shop.
Speaker 1: I how to get back and doing legal stuff. You
Speaker 1: can tell he kind of want to get up the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I all of at one point wanted to.
Speaker 1: But the uncle was like he knew because all his
Speaker 1: nephews was in the game. So they fighting each other.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna told her, like, I'm not going against
Speaker 1: my nephews, my family, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: she just brought a different, different aspect to it. You know,
Speaker 1: she put that that extra on on on the bullship.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he was, he was, He was for real
Speaker 1: and you got a lot of there like that. And
Speaker 1: he reminds me man of them kiss because we got
Speaker 1: so many brothers out here in the l A. They
Speaker 1: got roots in the South that you know, either from Alabama, Mississippi, Texas,
Speaker 1: and they come out here usually when they're five or
Speaker 1: six years old with their mama and daddy or their
Speaker 1: mama or something like that, you know, looking for a
Speaker 1: better way of life and really just walked jump out
Speaker 1: the frying pan into the fire. Right But and and
Speaker 1: but what's the difference between a cat from California and
Speaker 1: a cat that moved from Atlanta and come down here
Speaker 1: and the game banging and years old that makes him
Speaker 1: from the land, that makes him official. You know, they
Speaker 1: just talked about and this one thing I can't stand.
Speaker 1: You can't talk about cats and and back east, back
Speaker 1: south them cats and just the dangerous l A Nigging
Speaker 1: them cats in New York is dangerous, just like niggas
Speaker 1: in Compton. They just got a total different way a
Speaker 1: high they get down. They ain't banging the red and
Speaker 1: blue things like that. They well, it wasn't most cities.
Speaker 1: Wasn't banging that. They was just they just had clicks.
Speaker 1: But they were with the business and they didn't have
Speaker 1: a problem killing the motherfucker or killing the l a.
Speaker 1: They just keeping one hunted. Back in the days when
Speaker 1: they can started going out of the town doing you
Speaker 1: then it was what happened l A niggas and they
Speaker 1: said they was they was attacking that ass. You know what.
Speaker 1: I tried to tell Glasses that in Glasses just refused
Speaker 1: to believe it, like he just thinks. I said, dog,
Speaker 1: it wasn't on hostile takeover stuff going on. Cats came
Speaker 1: up there and just had a good prices. Man, if
Speaker 1: niggers keeping one outed do when the motherfucker went out
Speaker 1: of town like we went to Denver, bunfucker was making
Speaker 1: official and and and making it where just say, looking
Speaker 1: out for the motherfucker's in the city in the hood
Speaker 1: to do what they was doing. I couldn't do it
Speaker 1: no other way. He was gonna have problems, yeah, for real.
Speaker 1: And anytime you're stepping somebody else's city, it's kind of dangerous. Now,
Speaker 1: this is what I was wanting to ask you, right
Speaker 1: because I asked Glasses the same question right, and he
Speaker 1: kind of agreed with me. Next season is the last
Speaker 1: season of Snowfall, right, Yeah, it's gonna have to be
Speaker 1: some stuff happening. Nobody just getting off from doing all
Speaker 1: that ship that they've been wanted to, just get off
Speaker 1: Scott Free. I think Franklin probably go do forevery in jail.
Speaker 1: I think he go get caught. Now, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you the scariest motherfucker in the show is Teddy the
Speaker 1: dude this the U C I a guy, he don't
Speaker 1: get killed. Who you think you're doing? Killed? Dog to see?
Speaker 1: I a guy. He's gonna get killed. The one that
Speaker 1: got to seventy three millions, he gonna that's when you're
Speaker 1: talking about. Yeah, he's gonna get killed. Franklin gonna kill
Speaker 1: him after Franklin do what he's doing, get his money back.
Speaker 1: Frankly gonna kill that dude. You think Franklin going exail, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna kill him. Yeah, somebody, it ain't official if
Speaker 1: don't nobody go to jail or one of them out
Speaker 1: of the crew get killed because what's his name laying
Speaker 1: up in the uh in the hospital bed. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to choose between his wife and his family
Speaker 1: because dude, coming that herb was setting that here up. Oh,
Speaker 1: I can read the book already. You already know what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. That's what I'm saying. It. If if everybody
Speaker 1: walk away, that's bullshit, that's bullshit. Everybody can't walk away
Speaker 1: scott free and just take their money and going to
Speaker 1: live a happy life. A lot of cats and comforting
Speaker 1: that made it and made money. They did. They got
Speaker 1: a business and moved on, moved out the hood and
Speaker 1: probably still living up their money to day. They made
Speaker 1: so much, you know what I'm saying, Like, like, I mean,
Speaker 1: a whole lot of those guys did it. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, walked away, But the way they live it,
Speaker 1: everybody ain't walking away. Dog, they can. They did too much.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping Leon get away. I'm really hoping. Now. I'll
Speaker 1: be upset if I didn't see Leon next season. But
Speaker 1: I really hope Bygges let his character roll off in
Speaker 1: the sunset with his old lady and just be gone. No,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna Leo, you don't think so. No, No,
Speaker 1: he's gonna get on. Yeah he done. Yeah, And it's crazy,
Speaker 1: is he was the one that she thought would have
Speaker 1: been the wildest. But you don't want his like man,
Speaker 1: he didn't want to do it no more when he
Speaker 1: killed that. Did you see when they killed old boys?
Speaker 1: U little girl? Right? Yeah? No, I didn't see that
Speaker 1: part yet. Let me stop talking about that then. But
Speaker 1: you're gonna see a parliament. That's what's gonna spark to
Speaker 1: change in him. Right. But I'm gonna tell you this though,
Speaker 1: I think Jerome wi want up At to kill Louis
Speaker 1: because I don't think he could go against his family
Speaker 1: for her. No, he's gonna kill He's gonna kill his
Speaker 1: nephew for her. He loved her to death. But because
Speaker 1: he's gonna shoot her, and he loved her so motherfucking much.
Speaker 1: He you could read it through the strip to keep
Speaker 1: telling her he loved her. I got you back, but
Speaker 1: I gotta move on and do me. I gotta do me,
Speaker 1: but I still got you. So that moves she made
Speaker 1: when she shot up the one that just got out
Speaker 1: of jail. I ain't good with the names on the montain.
Speaker 1: This in the hospital, now? Yeah? When when? When when
Speaker 1: Frederick went in there and told him more, it was
Speaker 1: as you've seen his facial expression right, and you see
Speaker 1: his hot blood pressure going up and all that he
Speaker 1: was so he coming at her and uncles in the
Speaker 1: way of that. It ain't gonna stop him, and frankly,
Speaker 1: ain't he ain't gonna get in the middle of it,
Speaker 1: because you know, it was sucked up. And then she
Speaker 1: denied him. When she denied him, and he pulled that
Speaker 1: pistol out, and then that police cat E Scott came
Speaker 1: behind him. That's the only thing saved her life. He
Speaker 1: was gonna kill her right then. Yeah, do you like
Speaker 1: what do you think about that? Do you think he
Speaker 1: was in the right for pulling the pistol long in
Speaker 1: that game? Hell? Yeah, thench I'll bring you here. I
Speaker 1: got you set up. I'm family, I'm nephew. You're gonna
Speaker 1: tell me no. Seventy three million, and you're gonna tell
Speaker 1: no because you're working with him now. She too, she
Speaker 1: told she told him, she said, it is my time now,
Speaker 1: and and she there's a lot of women. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: keep you one hundred. There's a lot of women that
Speaker 1: made it in the dope game. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: women that made more money than the niggas. A lot
Speaker 1: of them made it but when it came to that
Speaker 1: like really like get down, get down kind of ship,
Speaker 1: some of them stood the test of time and some
Speaker 1: of them didn't. Some of them didn't. I don't think
Speaker 1: she gonna make it. Who you think will kill her? All?
Speaker 1: I told you the one in the hospital. Here's people. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're gonna get him or might kill him so he
Speaker 1: can save nephew. Because I don't keep saying I ain't
Speaker 1: going against my family whatever, like you, I think he
Speaker 1: could want to bless them, Louis, I don't know. Oh
Speaker 1: boy gonna he gonna take a chunk out of something.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he gonna get something. But you know what,
Speaker 1: though Lean had it right though, man be seen his
Speaker 1: brother fucked up. His brother sucked up because you remember
Speaker 1: when they was going to park, they kept telling them, dudes,
Speaker 1: not the slang over in the Mexican hood. Remember they
Speaker 1: kept telling that. They kept telling them, and he was
Speaker 1: mad because his nephews got done in and that one
Speaker 1: bral was so messy that they hang around with the
Speaker 1: one Mexican cat. Oh so they wanted the recipe. Yes,
Speaker 1: she was just with it, though she just grabbed me.
Speaker 1: As the rest of the niggas, this is one. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to tell you. These female is the part of
Speaker 1: the game. They they in the mix too, and some
Speaker 1: of them is just more scantless than than the next
Speaker 1: niked more ruthless than the next naked should I say so?
Speaker 1: I mean they all played that part. They all played
Speaker 1: their part, but they're killing the wrong ones though. That's
Speaker 1: the only thing I'm I'm tripping off up because the
Speaker 1: white boy that stepped out on the dope, he killed
Speaker 1: the white boys sitting in the couch and he was
Speaker 1: bringing he so they had to kill him, understand, but
Speaker 1: just because of motherfucker start smoking and ship though me,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a problem. Yeah, I thought that was
Speaker 1: kind of rash, now you know. Um see, I don't
Speaker 1: want to tell you too much because I know you
Speaker 1: ain't seen the whole thing yet and I don't want
Speaker 1: to mess it up for you. But Franklin put a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff in motion when he killed that dude.
Speaker 1: I think they're scared some other people. It's scared a
Speaker 1: lot of people because even his uncle Jabron was like,
Speaker 1: you killed him. That's when he realized that he vicious.
Speaker 1: Now that dude is vicious. Look at the beginning he
Speaker 1: walked away and told, oh boy, I'm done at the game.
Speaker 1: That that bands after they sold the Caillac and that
Speaker 1: like he threw them the bag. He told him he
Speaker 1: done because he was about to bring can Motion some
Speaker 1: more birds. He's like, no, I'm good right then and
Speaker 1: there he realized this ship ain't from me. And I
Speaker 1: want to see how he comes back in and and safe.
Speaker 1: Fucking now the killing motherfucker's yeah, and he went over there.
Speaker 1: You know what I thought was crazy, how he went
Speaker 1: to robbed his auntie's uncle spots. He robbed these spots.
Speaker 1: He cleaned him out. How much money you think he
Speaker 1: got off with? I don't know. He didn't. They never
Speaker 1: said he got off with a lot of money. But
Speaker 1: he only did that because everything that he worked for
Speaker 1: is about to be gone. So I'm desperate now about
Speaker 1: fucking So when he killed them two mother fuckers and
Speaker 1: winning there and took all that money and ship, it
Speaker 1: was only right. It was only right. I gotta get it.
Speaker 1: I can't lose everything I had. She went behind his
Speaker 1: back and went to the plug. So I thought that
Speaker 1: was fouled out. His uncle shouldn't roll with that, told him,
Speaker 1: you suck that up. You were not do When did
Speaker 1: he find out she did that after the fact, after
Speaker 1: they got married. Okay, so it ain't gotten it's too late.
Speaker 1: Now he can't do nothing about it. You can't do
Speaker 1: shit about it, but roll with him. Yeah. Now you
Speaker 1: know Rick is saying that Snowfall was supposed to be
Speaker 1: about him. Do you think a lot of that is
Speaker 1: ricking there? Well? I really can't say because all I
Speaker 1: know and my boy my auntie tell me about him.
Speaker 1: So I can't say that that's him, because there's more
Speaker 1: than one character in there that's ruthless and fucking with
Speaker 1: those people like that, I can say, yeah, he fun.
Speaker 1: He didn't come up off another brother and was getting
Speaker 1: it from them. He was getting it from the Columbias,
Speaker 1: whoever the funk he was getting from. So in order
Speaker 1: for him to man maintained in the city and do
Speaker 1: his thing, and niggas wasn't running away and ben Bam.
Speaker 1: Any motherfucker's got they got an empire. Any motherfucking that's
Speaker 1: seven drugs and and that that much drugs. Yeah, you,
Speaker 1: some motherfucker's gotta go. Some motherfucker's got to get it right.
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna be no bitch make in the game
Speaker 1: like that and then surviving. You know what I think,
Speaker 1: though I agree with you, James, I think it's more.
Speaker 1: I think it's a mixture of different people. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's a mixture of different people because I see
Speaker 1: a little bit of Harry Yeo in there with the
Speaker 1: buying the buildings downtown and all that stuff, and you know,
Speaker 1: really running legit businesses. I see a whole bunch because
Speaker 1: when people I actually know a whole bunch of the
Speaker 1: Freeway boys shout out to the Homi big Shitty and
Speaker 1: all them dudes. I know a bunch of cats that
Speaker 1: used to run with Rick, right, They used to really
Speaker 1: run with him. There was a part of that whole thing.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't just Rick Like I like, Rick get
Speaker 1: a lot of credit, and you know he deserves. Rick
Speaker 1: was a ball and ass dude. But it was whole
Speaker 1: bunch of cats out like that out here back then. No,
Speaker 1: that's what what what people got to realize. It's not
Speaker 1: just one person, especially the big dude. Now, once you
Speaker 1: become the big dude, you ain't got to do the
Speaker 1: Grammy ship. You got people forward. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: You ain't got to do the grind me all. You
Speaker 1: gotta do a ship back and count your money. You
Speaker 1: got people out there for it. This is snowfall, and
Speaker 1: there's a lot of motherfucker's and compton in l A
Speaker 1: that got rich, that got rich. I know it's a
Speaker 1: few of them because when we got to hold on
Speaker 1: to a lot of ship, we was giving away boulders
Speaker 1: for seventy five dollars. Motherfucker was making the killing, was
Speaker 1: making the killer and came up on for the ship
Speaker 1: that we was given, we was giving it away. We
Speaker 1: didn't have no clue. I can't lie. We should have
Speaker 1: been rich off that ship, but we didn't know so
Speaker 1: so so y'all were just getting the ship. Jane's gather. Motherfucker.
Speaker 1: We was fined. We was getting shipped and was happy
Speaker 1: that niggas was having five grand and take that five
Speaker 1: grand and buy raged as low riding and thought we
Speaker 1: was the ship in the hood. But the cats that
Speaker 1: was buying the ship from mouth from us. Those dudes
Speaker 1: when you start seeing them dressing with the silk shirts
Speaker 1: and and got their head did and nice cars, they
Speaker 1: made it. They knew what to do with their money.
Speaker 1: And then they can started taking their ship out of town.
Speaker 1: It wasn't good for the city. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You go out of town, get all the breads you want,
Speaker 1: because it was it was cracking back then. It was
Speaker 1: in demand. So those dudes made a lot of money.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't just one morefucker. That one motherfucker took
Speaker 1: five motherfucker's with him. If niggas thaid they're gonna come
Speaker 1: in there and get down and take something from me,
Speaker 1: they ran into resistance. They had some niggas that's with defenders,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, so yeah, well you
Speaker 1: know from what I heard, now, this is what I heard,
Speaker 1: and I heard it from a couple of different people.
Speaker 1: I heard at one time though that the Colombians was
Speaker 1: dealing straight with black people out here, but then they
Speaker 1: start kind of using them when they was getting robbed
Speaker 1: and stuff. They started going more to the Amsican people,
Speaker 1: living American people, deal with the old American things. All
Speaker 1: of the all of these drugs shows show you and
Speaker 1: they tell you the blacks got messy. The Mexicans are.
Speaker 1: They keep their ship secret. They didn't funk with everybody
Speaker 1: and everything, you know what I'm saying. They didn't so
Speaker 1: the Columbias like this, why keep working with them? And
Speaker 1: it's gonna bring bad business to us. So they ran
Speaker 1: from the bullshit and went and with something, something was
Speaker 1: more souber and and and legit. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Niggas was out there doing each other to get that
Speaker 1: bag at the time because it was a lot of money,
Speaker 1: and a lot of motherfucker's was getting turned on, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because they was making the mother
Speaker 1: the motherfucking money and they wasn't shine it. So nigga's
Speaker 1: and be killed a lot of a lot of motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, man. You know what My whole thing was
Speaker 1: about that stuff, James, You were thinking logic. Some of
Speaker 1: them cats were stacking the million dollars a month for
Speaker 1: a million dollars a week. Yeah, you would think after
Speaker 1: motherfucker maybe hit tim million, they'd be like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tip out of here. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: raise up and go bounce. That ain't the mentality of
Speaker 1: a black man. Most motherfuckers did that if he if
Speaker 1: he got ten million, he went and got some businesses
Speaker 1: like the older cats did back in the days. That's
Speaker 1: when it was good for him. They did do something
Speaker 1: with their money. The generation after that they made money
Speaker 1: in ball low Rider's jury and ship like that. You know,
Speaker 1: they had to be seen when it first started. The
Speaker 1: ones that made money, they did good by their money.
Speaker 1: But everybody else that that wanted to shine and wanted
Speaker 1: everybody to see that they had money. Them the nuggleheads,
Speaker 1: they got in trouble, They got caught up, they got robbed,
Speaker 1: they got killed for the ship, you feel me, because
Speaker 1: the next nigger was starting and hungry and he had
Speaker 1: to get the motherfucking big shark. Now, how many how
Speaker 1: many legit businesses you thinking of hood right now that
Speaker 1: came from that whole dope era. Oh man, I can't
Speaker 1: even count. I can't even count. Uh some businesses that's
Speaker 1: out there. And you don't even know. The brothers got
Speaker 1: the honies, gout or whatever. Everything. Niggas don't want you
Speaker 1: to know and didn't want you to know they business
Speaker 1: because back then niggas was getting flipped over for you know,
Speaker 1: once they found out who you was. Mm hmm, they
Speaker 1: was getting flipped. Niggas was going to prison, you feel me.
Speaker 1: So a lot of ship that them cats was doing,
Speaker 1: which was good is keeping the hood out of their
Speaker 1: ship keeping When when the motherfucker came to kicking in
Speaker 1: the hood, he came and kicked it in the hood
Speaker 1: and bounced, I ain't gotta go around the corner and
Speaker 1: go to sleep. They left the motherfucker's in the hood.
Speaker 1: In the hood. Niggas wasn't taking niggas to their house.
Speaker 1: The ones that did what happened. Motherfucker's somebody close to
Speaker 1: him killed them for their bag for they said, And
Speaker 1: that's how That's how the game was going for the longest.
Speaker 1: So motherfucker's got smart and stopped telling them, telling their business,
Speaker 1: making their business hood business. So you know, it went
Speaker 1: on different kind of ways, man, And it was crazy.
Speaker 1: And I get I guarantee you every guy that watched Snowfall,
Speaker 1: it's sitting there like this like this ship is for
Speaker 1: motherfucking real. Yeah, wait till you get through exams. Wait
Speaker 1: wait till you get through it, because you're gonna see
Speaker 1: some ship. You're gonna be like, damn, hey, I seen
Speaker 1: it when at the wedding when everybody was fucked up,
Speaker 1: and then Frankly went in the mansion, went in the
Speaker 1: building and he's saying, oh, boy killed. Mm hmm, Man,
Speaker 1: this is the same story. I told my fucking uh psychiatrist,
Speaker 1: my psyche that when when the first time you do somebody,
Speaker 1: the first time you felt like you killed somebody or
Speaker 1: hurt somebody real bad, the ship don't go away. You
Speaker 1: see it, you go to sleep, you dream it, and
Speaker 1: everybody and my motherfucking family to tell you, Man, I
Speaker 1: used to fight in my sleep, talking my sleep. My
Speaker 1: sleep was I couldn't escape it, so I became a
Speaker 1: fucking drunk. If I get allegedly James is not talking
Speaker 1: about and whacking nobody talked about hurting somebody. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: that's what I mean. I made that clear. But but
Speaker 1: any realm be honest with you and tell you that
Speaker 1: the ship hunts you. You know what I'm saying. It
Speaker 1: folks with you and you just you see over and
Speaker 1: over images and ship. And when I saw that that
Speaker 1: that part right there, I'm back, like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1: This ship? It's so fucking real, the ship that happens
Speaker 1: and slow for I guarantee you at least sevent six
Speaker 1: of the Niggas and California itself have been through that ship,
Speaker 1: have lived that life, have gotten killed living that life
Speaker 1: just like that ship. That's some real ship man. Whoever
Speaker 1: he a bad motherfucker who wrote that, Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: the man. You know, rest in peace man. He was
Speaker 1: a brilliant dude. You know. One thing. One thing, man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna actually get Rick to come on here and
Speaker 1: sit down with us, or we need to have Chico
Speaker 1: come back on dog right. I mean those I mean
Speaker 1: those are guys that know, we never elevated to that.
Speaker 1: We never got you that at the Eddy folks. Niggas
Speaker 1: ain't selling dope. Niggas is selling fifty packs. Niggas niggas
Speaker 1: ain't never got past a fifty pack. You know. You
Speaker 1: know what it seemed like l A was like, James,
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. It seemed like the cats,
Speaker 1: like you and your folks was out there really just
Speaker 1: you know, kind of just putting your muscle down, all right,
Speaker 1: just in the three stuggling out. It seemed like, really
Speaker 1: the drug deals was kind of like the nerve niggers
Speaker 1: in the hood. They kind of might have got a
Speaker 1: plug on something and they just master minded and kind
Speaker 1: of put everybody else on. Now, they didn't have to
Speaker 1: be the winning niggas some of some of the some
Speaker 1: of those cats all over in every neighborhood, you got
Speaker 1: the same niggas. I don't give a funk with. Nobody
Speaker 1: said you got the real niggas. You got the scandless niggas,
Speaker 1: you got the hitters, you got the the educated niggas.
Speaker 1: You just got the homies that's associated with the hood
Speaker 1: because he hang out. But a lot of them motherfuckers
Speaker 1: was like the majority was like real niggas that took
Speaker 1: the game and and and ran with it for real.
Speaker 1: A lot of cats wouldn't cut for that ship. Because
Speaker 1: every hundred dollars you make, you're going to buy weed
Speaker 1: and drink. You ain't really making money. Niggas wasn't taking
Speaker 1: money and saving it and putting it away thinking I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be this motherfucking five years. Niggers were staying on
Speaker 1: the block jib two four in the morning trying to
Speaker 1: get some money. When that real nigger was leaving it
Speaker 1: as soon as it got dark eight nine o'clock. They
Speaker 1: got made mine. I'm gone. That's the ones that wouldn't
Speaker 1: greeting and they made their money and we're just gone
Speaker 1: now now. When you was out there, James, when you
Speaker 1: was out there, what's the most money you made in
Speaker 1: the day out and it's on the corner, maybe four
Speaker 1: hundred five dollars. Then was about that, you know, I
Speaker 1: had maybe like I had a couple of times man
Speaker 1: to wear stand off in the corner, I made eight
Speaker 1: hundred dollars, you know, a thousand dollars or whatever like that.
Speaker 1: But then it was like really rare because it got
Speaker 1: to the point that where were so many niggas out there.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about cats just in the same crew. You're
Speaker 1: almost doing something. Okay, you get the next one. Well,
Speaker 1: the only motherfucker's that hung on stock to block was
Speaker 1: our crul was our true that hung on that. But
Speaker 1: our block was niggas was selling. And during the twenties
Speaker 1: and tens and ship it got dark down, it's time
Speaker 1: to drink, it's time to go. We was out, we
Speaker 1: were gang banging. We wouldn't know that I'm nig I'm
Speaker 1: gonna stay here and make my money. Nick, I'm in
Speaker 1: the hood. No, we was on some different ship. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You got a different types of niggas
Speaker 1: in the hood that's sold dope. You got niggas in
Speaker 1: the hood that was selling dope that they never picked
Speaker 1: up a gun and win the shot. Nobody or did
Speaker 1: a drive by or had an altercation with you know,
Speaker 1: anybody else. Listen, niggas that you gotta pass because you
Speaker 1: grew up in this motherfucker. You got a right to sale.
Speaker 1: And they did it all day. But the ones that
Speaker 1: was out there gang banging, you know, it was like
Speaker 1: you had two jobs. I'm a gang member and down them.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm a part time half ass selling rocks
Speaker 1: to keep money in my pocket, to keep a fresh hack,
Speaker 1: fresh converts, fresh ass khakis in the fresh white tea.
Speaker 1: Yeah for real. And you know the thing, hell, anybody
Speaker 1: doing that ship in two thousand between two man, I
Speaker 1: feel bad for him. Ain't no money out there, no
Speaker 1: more like that. That's gone, that's done. No, But it's
Speaker 1: enough for a cadinet hood to do what I just said,
Speaker 1: to get the fresh niggers to to bibe. You know,
Speaker 1: stay fresh, you ain't you ain't making no mansion money
Speaker 1: out there, you know what I'm saying. And then we
Speaker 1: were so stupid all that ship that that that we had.
Speaker 1: Now none of us had a lawyer. Niggas didn't put
Speaker 1: money away for that. Niggas didn't put away bail money. No,
Speaker 1: you feel me. It was just it was just we
Speaker 1: didn't know, we didn't. I don't think nobody knew, James.
Speaker 1: I don't think nobody was thinking that far beaut Like.
Speaker 1: I thought about it the other day and I really
Speaker 1: just thought, I said, Man, ain't God that God had
Speaker 1: mercy on on us? Man, because you know you do ship.
Speaker 1: I think about it, me being a cat to come
Speaker 1: out here from Ohio playing football and I'm out in
Speaker 1: the corner. I could have went to jail and been
Speaker 1: going for thirty years though, but you'd want you to
Speaker 1: system just say five years that it turned your whole
Speaker 1: life around, that that that a rearrangage that has set
Speaker 1: you on a different course. Now you go do five
Speaker 1: years and the state pen attention. You're a big dude,
Speaker 1: so a lot of motherfucker's probably when the fun with you.
Speaker 1: But you'd have had some issues and because you ain't
Speaker 1: from no click or you might have to click up
Speaker 1: with Long Beach, and I think that would have been
Speaker 1: the best thing for you because of the Long Beach catch,
Speaker 1: you know, like bombing them. All you gotta do is
Speaker 1: mentioned bomby niggas. No who Bomby is. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: it's crazy. I'm gonna tell you this answer. God true.
Speaker 1: I was two weeks from going and probably going to
Speaker 1: prison with that nigga if I wouldn't have kept having
Speaker 1: new thoughts in my head to get But I told you,
Speaker 1: I walked away and left the whole song from the
Speaker 1: side of the building. I walked away dog because my
Speaker 1: mama knew. I think she knew. And I just kept
Speaker 1: having these thoughts man, I needed, you know, I kept
Speaker 1: getting the warnings and not following the police came around
Speaker 1: that dog, I walked home and never looked back. Dog
Speaker 1: and find people to jail. Two weeks later, he caught
Speaker 1: his first KIS And I know for sure I would
Speaker 1: have been with him was I was running with him
Speaker 1: thickt thieves back then. That's that's my dog. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. That would have changed your whole life.
Speaker 1: So just think how many cats lives changed by going
Speaker 1: to prison just because they was trying to make some money,
Speaker 1: just because they was trying to you know, I had
Speaker 1: a kid and wanted to get on that block to
Speaker 1: make sure that baby was good. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: or something is just doing it for for self preservation.
Speaker 1: I need this money. I needed to I need a car,
Speaker 1: I need wood wool. The price that a motherfucker paid,
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy, it's crazy. It definitely ain't worth it.
Speaker 1: And you know what's what's funny though, Dog fine Be
Speaker 1: always was a good cat, always was a cool dude.
Speaker 1: And that was the way of looking out for me
Speaker 1: kind of you know what I mean, That was kind
Speaker 1: of his way of looking out for me. Man. But
Speaker 1: I just tell you, man, we really gotta start man
Speaker 1: developing other options to people. Man, we really gotta start
Speaker 1: looking at other options and not just look at because
Speaker 1: our whole thing is black folks. Dogs, is you ain't
Speaker 1: playing football, you're playing basketball. If you ain't playing basketball,
Speaker 1: you're wrapping. If you ain't doing none of those, you're
Speaker 1: trying to sell dope. You know what I'm saying. We
Speaker 1: gotta start thinking the different stuff to do. Dogs. Plenty
Speaker 1: of ways I get to have a good life for yourself. Well,
Speaker 1: it's a lot that do. But the ain't nobody being
Speaker 1: taught that that you've got other options. These cats out
Speaker 1: here and ain't learning that. And before you can get
Speaker 1: a hold on them, they're already doing blow, they already
Speaker 1: drinking all day, they're already getting high, they already setting
Speaker 1: their ways. Let's say that's seventeen sixteen, seventeen years old,
Speaker 1: sixteen years old. They tattered all the way up from
Speaker 1: their neck down to their belly. So it's gonna be
Speaker 1: hard to to to get at a cat that looking
Speaker 1: at the older dude like thinking you didn't had your time.
Speaker 1: It's my turn, for real. It's gonna be hard. But
Speaker 1: like I said, everybody go through something and they're like,
Speaker 1: that's gonna make them say, fuck this ship, fuck this ship.
Speaker 1: Because happy these cats ain't lived like that yet. Happy
Speaker 1: these cats ain't been stabbed and and tied up and
Speaker 1: cut shot. Happy these niggers they went through this ship.
Speaker 1: So you know what to And I look at Cleveland,
Speaker 1: like in California, when I came up in Cleveland and
Speaker 1: the crack are started up there, it was a little differently.
Speaker 1: L A is crime, you don't get wrong, but Cleveland
Speaker 1: is like really grim, and you got brawls to carry
Speaker 1: to raise, the blades in their mouth you got, and
Speaker 1: the thing you know, you and Cleveland, you was more
Speaker 1: than likely to get stabbed up somewhere then get shot.
Speaker 1: See for number one, we can't separate the states because
Speaker 1: black man niggas is niggas period. Yeah, that's what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to That's why I'm trying to tell you. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, me thinking about the east side of Cleveland,
Speaker 1: it wasn't really no different than being on the east
Speaker 1: side alone, because it was like the same stuff kind
Speaker 1: of just a different play. The only thing, you know, James,
Speaker 1: the only thing you could do is substract the crips
Speaker 1: and the bloods. But you've got some other cats up
Speaker 1: there to kind of replace the crypts and the blood
Speaker 1: So it's all the same stuff when we do ship,
Speaker 1: let's look at it like this. Let's just push it
Speaker 1: in order how shit's supposed to be, and and let's
Speaker 1: go by Let's say the ranks of different motherfucker different individuals.
Speaker 1: Everybody ain't the same cat. Everybody ain't the motherfucking killing.
Speaker 1: If a motherfucker kill somebody or or got a night
Speaker 1: he did heat, I don't stand with motherfucker like used to.
Speaker 1: I don't hold my knife like you old your knight
Speaker 1: should I say, I don't hold my pistal sideways and
Speaker 1: and pop I don't do that. So motherfucker's are different,
Speaker 1: but the the what's the good word for it, the
Speaker 1: reactions are the same. No, I don't give a funk
Speaker 1: how you how you pop your pistol, if you hit
Speaker 1: the motherfucker, it's the same. You can get the same
Speaker 1: ship out of it, you know what I'm saying. Some
Speaker 1: cats don't understand that, man. Our whole universe is there's
Speaker 1: nothing but the circle is recycing. Everything repeats itself, and
Speaker 1: that's all we have here. But every time it repeats itself,
Speaker 1: it's just worser and worser and worser. Because we as
Speaker 1: black men ain't educated or educating our own, our cousins,
Speaker 1: our nephews. We ain't educating. We're not saying you know what, man,
Speaker 1: what's funny about you saying that? Man? I was just
Speaker 1: talking to this young cat the other day and we
Speaker 1: was talking about like, um, you know it's one of
Speaker 1: me and Glasses younger partners, right, yeah, And you know
Speaker 1: he's doing this thing. Man, he's a young cat. You know,
Speaker 1: he's still going out party and you know they're doing
Speaker 1: the stuff now, they're doing the ecstasy and all that
Speaker 1: different stuff. Right. And I told him. I said, man,
Speaker 1: you better be careful because they even putting uh, they
Speaker 1: even putting that fat and all and everything now, right,
Speaker 1: said you better be careful. And he was like, well, man,
Speaker 1: I don't do this. Um, I don't do no hearing
Speaker 1: one or nothing. I said, dog, you're taking pills. Though
Speaker 1: I didn't hear it when I said, dog, it's the
Speaker 1: same stuff as opious, just like I said, it just
Speaker 1: got a different effect at all. This ship is sucking
Speaker 1: niggers up. It was the same man. And them kids,
Speaker 1: they're getting on them peels, James, and I'm talking about
Speaker 1: it's bad U from Cleveland. No dog like with them pills,
Speaker 1: it looks it's almost like it was eighty two, when
Speaker 1: eighty two and eighty five when the crack was really
Speaker 1: on hit. That's ideals now. But they're on the pills, man,
Speaker 1: And the people is younger and younger. You got kids
Speaker 1: as young as twelve teen years old though, hooked on
Speaker 1: that stuff, right, and that's why out here and you
Speaker 1: got all of these little kids. Man. I just gave
Speaker 1: a T shirt and some socks to a little cat.
Speaker 1: He couldn't have been no more than twenty two years old.
Speaker 1: At the gas station funked up, talking out there, talking
Speaker 1: to itself. I gave about twelve thirteen dollars the ones
Speaker 1: I had in my pocket I gave, and I gave
Speaker 1: him the team shirting and some socks. Man, they out
Speaker 1: of here, young homeless. Yeah, they used man, And I
Speaker 1: keep saying it, man, and you know what I see
Speaker 1: happening now. But dog, it ain't really no type of
Speaker 1: leadership because the cats are age and even older than
Speaker 1: that's exactly like look, kid's now, well you blame that
Speaker 1: on social media. Social media is sucking people up. And
Speaker 1: see Nick is flying that that this is a different
Speaker 1: way to get it back, sitting at home or going
Speaker 1: to one spot and sit back and talking. Yeah, yeah, Jack,
Speaker 1: it's and they let them do it. But this ship
Speaker 1: designed for us to do this ship to each other.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you get to the un Let you
Speaker 1: get to the dangerous crew over there that you got, dog, right, Man,
Speaker 1: I hope everything well, I know everything's gonna go good tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, I'm gonna get on my knees and
Speaker 1: pray for your time. I appreciate it, congratulations, advantage of it.
Speaker 1: Don't misuse views his situation because I ain't fortunate like that.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm doing. I'm telling maybe five minutes man,
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, you gotta do this, you gotta do that.
Speaker 1: But I keep you post, I ht you up. When
Speaker 1: I get out there for Hannah, we're gone, y'all. Okay,
Speaker 1: m