1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants hutte on Giants 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Giants Mobile the Giants Podcast Network. 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to the newest episode of the Giant Subtle Podcast. 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving everybody, John Schmelk here with you. Today is 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: our preview of the Giants and Philadelphia Eagles at MetLife 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 1: Stadium on Sunday at one o'clock. Michael Strayan gets his 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: jersey retired into the rafters of MetLife Stadium. Today will 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: Bob Popo with head coach Joe Judge. I'll talk to 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: Giants tight End, Evan Ingram, and Paul Latino, a Lance 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: Metal talk to Dave Spider, who covers the Eagles for 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: the team's site. As a reminder of the John Subtle 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: Podcast can be found at giants dot com, slash podcast, 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: your favorite podcast platforms, and on the Giants Mobile app. 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 1: If you have friends that are Giant fans, make sure 15 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: you're talking about the podcast and to subscribe and if 16 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: an Apple podcast, of course, leave a five star positive review. 17 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna start with our player interview. I 18 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: had a chance to talk to Giants tight End, Evan Ingram, Evan, 19 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: thanks for being with us. Man, Thank you. How's your Thanksgiving? 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: It was nice? Um, spend it with my girlfriend. Made 21 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: my first turkey that it came out. I gave it 22 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: like a eight and a half. It wasn't it wasn't 23 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: It wasn't perfect. I was I was trying to make 24 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: it perfect, but definitely didn't come out perfect. Um she 25 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: had the size. We kind of did the turkey together, 26 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: so it was a team effort, but it came out 27 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: really nice. What you do? Did you like spatch cocket? 28 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: Did you deep fry it? Did you anything fantasy? We 29 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: just we just roasted it, roasted it. She had like 30 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: a Spanish recipe and um, all these different types of spices. 31 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: So my season did and she kind of filled it 32 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: up with all the all the saft stuff and we 33 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: let it cook for a couple of hours. So solid, 34 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: Very good man. Well, how was this week of practice? 35 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: Obviously it was a short week coming off the Monday 36 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: night game and then you have kind of a half 37 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: day on Thursday. So how did you guys adjust to 38 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: having that strange weekend? We just stayed the course. Um. 39 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: I think our coaches do a great job of adjusting 40 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: on the fly, um Man, especially with holidays. And things 41 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: like that. So, UM, we we're real sharp. We made 42 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: sure we gotta work and got all the information. UM 43 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: and UM had had a good product on the field 44 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: and practice. So UM feel good about the week and 45 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: ready for Sunday. And Joe Judge hasn't announced it who's 46 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: gonna call plays? But this was your first week without 47 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett in the building. Kind of addressing the offense, 48 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: what was that like, UM, Yes, it's just uh, just 49 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: a sudden change. UM. You know, I loved playing for Jason. UM. 50 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: I know everybody did. I'm on our offense and UM 51 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 1: and our team. He was a great football coach. And 52 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: I'm obviously it's unfortunate. UM. And and it's it's, like 53 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,839 Speaker 1: I said, a sudden change, but we still have, um 54 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 1: a good mind of games left. UM that we gotta 55 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: go compete in and and go trying to win. So 56 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: UM definitely just kind of moved on the fly and 57 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: just kind of kept the work up. You mentioned now 58 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: you never know, it's like playing for him. What was 59 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: the general reaction when you guys kind of all heard 60 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: about that day. Yeah, it was it was, it was 61 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 1: it was different. UM, you know, it's it's never that's 62 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: news like that never is normal, Um, especially in the 63 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: middle of the season. Um and uh and so it was. 64 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: It was definitely a shocker, um and um, but that's 65 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: just the nature of this business. Um. And we gotta 66 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: keep and forward. I know how players think, do you 67 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: guys in some ways maybe responsibilities the wrong world, but 68 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: you guys say, hey, look guys, we gotta play better. 69 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: You know, this was our coach, We played for him. 70 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: We were a team doing this together. And now because 71 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: overall the team wasn't as productive as it needed to be, 72 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: this guy lost his job. Yeah. Um yeah, I mean 73 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: as a competitor and um, I know the the make 74 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: of this team and make up this locker room. A 75 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: lot of guys I felt like that, especially on offensive 76 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: side of the ball. We all know, um that you know, 77 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: we can always be better and we can execute better. Um. 78 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: There's things in the game that you know we can 79 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: we can improve that and and do better at and 80 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: have better product and better results. So um yeah, I 81 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: mean as a competitor and as as an accountable UM 82 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: athlete and accountable football player, you definitely take some blame. 83 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: Um and uh. Yes, it's tough and we gotta just 84 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: be better. So what kind of, if any real changes 85 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: can without giving away state secrets obviously can be expected 86 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: when you guys are literally like four and a half 87 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: days between games where you're trying to make some type 88 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: of adjustment. Um. Yeah, I mean that's that's I think 89 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: that's what's our coaching staff has done a good job 90 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: of this week is um kind of working together, um 91 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: and putting things together and UM, and and kind of 92 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: getting getting used to the different change and the different 93 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: scenery and different coaching and stuff. So UM, I think 94 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: that was the biggest Um, that was the biggest thing 95 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: we felt as a team this week was just all 96 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: the coaches really working together. UM. A little bit more 97 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: now just because of the news about Jason. Now, two 98 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: guys that I know we're good at. They all have 99 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: play calling experience and head coaching experience, Freddie Kitchen and 100 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: Derek Dooley. One was your tight end coach last year. 101 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: What was your tight end coach this year? So give 102 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: me an insight into both of those guys and kind 103 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: of what you think they could bring to the offense. 104 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: As as Joe Judge said, this has been a kind 105 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: of a collaborative effort all week Yeah, I think, um, 106 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: they I mean they've both have been in a position 107 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: of of calling plays and UM they know this offense 108 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: um really well. And UM they know um us players. Uh. 109 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: You know, Freddie is kind of overseeing the offense now, 110 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: so UM he knows about the receivers and the tight 111 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: ends offensive line and dually is with the tight end, 112 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: so he knows our strengths and things that we can 113 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: offer and things that we can bring to a game plan. 114 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: So UM, I think it's just a lot of knowledge, um, 115 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: even throughout the whole entire coach of staff, not just 116 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: them to um kind of working collectively. Now, your tight 117 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: end room has has been a bit of a mess 118 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: to sheear you and Kyle, who was out the whole summer. 119 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: You're out at the start of the year, and now 120 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: Kat has been dealing with the knee the whole season. 121 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: We don't know about Kyle this week. He injured his 122 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: knee last week. How has it been trying to kind 123 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: of sort throw all that stuff as a unit and 124 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: as a group, just being healthy and getting out there 125 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: to execute the game plan the we after each week. Yeah, 126 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: I mean it's always it's definitely unfortunate not to have 127 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: guys ready and to deal with injuries and stuff like that. 128 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: But um, just because you know we might be injured 129 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: and not on the field. I think the best part 130 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: of our room is that we really work together. We communicate, 131 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: we help each other out, we talk about things. Um, 132 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: we watched Tate, We we draw things up on the board. UM, 133 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: so we stay ready mentally. We always prepare. Dually is 134 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: um dully is detailed maniac um about all the details 135 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: of small things. And we have all these sheets and 136 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: all these tips and stuff. So UM, it's a collective 137 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: effort of just keeping everybody ready no matter what. Who's down, 138 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: who's up. Um. We've been through so many ups and 139 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: downs in that room this year, but that's probably the 140 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: best thing that we've done to handle it is just 141 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: kind of work together, you talk about details. And one 142 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: thing I want to kind of dive into a little 143 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: bit is kind of the art of the chip block. 144 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: It's something that you guys have been asked to do 145 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: a lot this year. I think people would say, oh, 146 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: the tight end chips. It's fine, I was just watching 147 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving kind and goes to chip He clips the 148 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: back of the offensive lineman's ankle, or for the offensive 149 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: tackle falls down the guy goes in. What kind of 150 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: details and practice and coordination is required to be an 151 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: effective chip blocker where it actually achieves the goal you're 152 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: trying to achieve. Yeah, the UM, I think the most 153 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: important thing is communicating with the tackles what they would prefer, 154 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: what they like. There's there's been times where we chip 155 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: a guy inside and the tackles like, no, chip them out, 156 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: and then there's the times will we chip a guy 157 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: out and then we're like no, like chip them in. So, um, 158 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: it's making sure on the same page. Um man, it's 159 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: in the d lineman kind of know ordens starting to 160 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: know when it's coming and so they mess around with 161 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: alignments and stuff. So, um, tape is important. I mean 162 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: like it's it's a small part of a player, a 163 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: small part of a game. But um it definitely takes 164 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: a lot to go into of knowing which angle to 165 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: take or what type of rush for this d N 166 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: is so um I alwould say, really studying the guy 167 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: that you're you're chipping to give your quarterback some time 168 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: and also communicating with your tackle as you've been doing 169 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: that more this year and in the run game, too 170 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: with your blocking. Do you still feel like you're running 171 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: blocking and blocking overall has jumped up in another level 172 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: this year, being has to do it more. Um yeah, 173 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: I mean I'm always hard on myself in the run game. 174 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: That's That's always been something that I've been trying to 175 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: stay sharpen and improving, and um there's um, you know, 176 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,239 Speaker 1: I'm I'm just honest with myself and I hold myself 177 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: to a high standers. So, um there are times where 178 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: I do really well and there's times where I feel 179 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: I could be better at in the running game. So UM, 180 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: my focus now is just being more consistent. I'm consistently good. 181 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: I'm in the run game and doing my job and 182 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: hunting it on the small things. How about the past game. 183 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: You know we just talked about. You've been asked to 184 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: do a lot of locking this year, chipping things like that, 185 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: and that limits what you can do in terms of 186 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: the routes you were on the time of the offense. 187 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: It kind of messes everything up. Where are some things 188 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: that you think moving forward the rest of the year, 189 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: where they think they can take advantage of your skill set, 190 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: You can make some more big plays down the field, 191 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: which is what we've seen from you when years passed. Yeah, 192 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: you know, Um, I think our coaches always do a 193 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: good job of putting together game plans and things like 194 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: that and putting us in positions. Um. I know my 195 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: strengths are just getting vertical, um, getting on, getting on 196 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: safety is getting on linebackers, making defenses choose whether to 197 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: carry me deep or or to or to come down 198 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: on the low low game um, on the low passing route. 199 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: So um, really just using my speed, getting vertical, um 200 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: choice routes, drags, just really putting defenses in the bond. 201 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: So I know those are my strengths. And uh, and 202 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: I know our coaches will put together game plans to 203 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: use all of our strengths and to get us the ball. Yeah, 204 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: with your straight line speed, once you get somebody on 205 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: on your on your back, hip right or behind, you 206 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: want to go. Yeah, that's where you want to be 207 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: right Yeah. So um and and and I mean defenses 208 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: are smart. This this is my fourth this is my 209 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 1: fifth year in the league. So um, playing teams they know, 210 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: they know how I'm coming, they know how I'm running, 211 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: they know my speed. So um they definitely I definitely 212 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: can feel their respect and feel, um, the attention to 213 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: detail about defenses. But um, sometimes somebody might fall asleep, 214 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: or somebody might forget or who are not be paying 215 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: attention and I run right by them. So um, definitely, 216 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: that's that's ideal is getting get my stock open and 217 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: using my speed. The final question before we get to 218 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: the opponent, how does having to chip and being a 219 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: little bit more active and pass pro and in general 220 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: trying to help out the offensive line, how does that 221 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: impact your ability and the other tight ends ability to 222 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: get more involved in the passing. Again, Um, we just 223 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: take it as an opportunity to still get the ball. 224 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: I mean, when we chip, we're still it's not a 225 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: it's not a traditional route where we're coming out adversity 226 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: stance and running to inure this and that. So uh 227 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: we it's a it's when we're chipping, we're always uh 228 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: a checkdown. So um, we always take an opportunity to 229 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: work it as like a choice route or or choice drag, 230 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: or to to use it as a route. So just 231 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: because that we're we're chipping the d N and we're 232 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: taking a little bit more time at the line of scrimmage, 233 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: we still take it as an opportunity to to possibly 234 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: get the ball and where the balls in our hands 235 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: and make somebody miss and get some yards. Let's talk 236 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: about the Eagles good defense. They played well the last 237 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. When you watch them on tape, what 238 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: do you say, Um, just just speed um. They they 239 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: pursued to the ball really well. UM. Their physical upfront UM, 240 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: and their their secondary is making plays UM. And they're 241 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: they're playing with confidence um in their secondary as well. 242 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: So all three levels is gonna be challenged. Or they 243 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: have athletic linebackers more kind of UM, more finesse, more 244 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: lighter linebackers, but they run really fast, they trigger really 245 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: fast and UM, and up front they're strong, and like 246 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: I said, the secondary is playing with swagger. So all 247 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: three levels is gonna be a challenge. All right, too 248 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: details on that one. When you play a team that 249 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: plays a lot of zone and their whole goal is 250 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: to not let guys get behind them, they've allowed the 251 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: third few as twenty plus yard past plays in the league. 252 00:10:58,760 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: They play a lot of own a lot of deep 253 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: How do you go about attacking something like that? Is 254 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: the whole key just being patient or is there are 255 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: there other aspects yeah, because Judge always says take the 256 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: profit man, They'll there'll be a many opportunities to to 257 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: go deep. And trust me, we want to take shots 258 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,599 Speaker 1: and we want to make big plays, um, but we 259 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: definitely gotta play smart. We definitely gotta make the right decisions, 260 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: and we have to have options um underneath all that 261 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: deep covered. So I think we just play smart, be patient, 262 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: take the profit um, and then hopefully they slip up 263 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: or get a little bit too aggressive when we go 264 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: over top. So um, yeah, they do a really good 265 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: job of limiting big plays, but we just gotta stay 266 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: the course, keep chipping, and then they'll start to come. 267 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: Just to follow up on that, because we get a 268 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: lot of questions from fans and oh, we don't get it. 269 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: Wanted to taking more shots now, feel w aren't you 270 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: just throwing it deep? And I try to explain that 271 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: it's oftentimes dictated by how the defense is playing. You're right, 272 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: you can't just run those plays if they're into three deep, 273 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: you can't just run a streak and down the sideline. 274 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: That that's what the defense is designed to stop it. 275 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: So exactly, can you just talk a little bit about 276 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: how the type of routes you guys can attack a 277 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: defense with is dictated by how they're winding up and 278 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: playing against you on any given week. UM yeah, I 279 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: mean like I like I said, I mean, I would 280 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: love to take a shot every play and just give 281 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: us opportunity to go up and make a play. Um, 282 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: But that's that's just not ideal. So UM to kind 283 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: of combat that, I guess, Um, we have to run 284 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: routes to still threaten them deep, so still make them 285 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: respect the deep throwing. But like I said, UM, getting 286 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: guys like Katie the ball underneath and making guys miss 287 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: right after catch, getting the ball in two six is 288 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: hands um out of the backfield or check down or 289 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: even getting my hands um after a chip flat um 290 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: getting it down. So I think, Um, I think those 291 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: are big counters to that UM and eventually they'll have 292 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: to come up and and and make a play. You 293 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: see you see you know kid Darius, I mean he 294 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: every time he touches the ball, it's at least two 295 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: guys his game on. So UM, I think having having 296 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: a guy like that and having more players um like 297 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: that that we have on our team that can be 298 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: um it supposed to with the ball and those short 299 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: route and short area UM routes. Um. I think that 300 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 1: can open up and and force those guys to start 301 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: playing a little bit looser, and then we can start 302 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: taking shots. And then again some of those deeper zones too. Right, 303 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: if the quarterback can hold the ball a little bit 304 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: longer and you can do some of those deep overs 305 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 1: and stuff, then you can try to find some of 306 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: the holes even in the deeper zones, right, UM, definitely, 307 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 1: And UM A lot of it is on protection. UM, 308 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: A lot of it is given DJ TOM. A lot 309 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: of it is not haing to be comfortable in the 310 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: pocket to go through his reads and stuff. So UM 311 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: that that's a big that's a big aspect of it 312 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: too because you can see you can turn on games 313 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: on Sunday and UM teams that have UM quarterbacks kind 314 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: of sitting in the pocket going through his reads bouncing 315 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: back to c T Like it doesn't matter how deep 316 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: coverage you're playing, that he's gonna find somebody to throw too. 317 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 1: So it's a big picture. I mean, it's it's all. 318 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: It's all collective effort, getting getting open, running the routes 319 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: and protecting and making the throwers and making the place Anyway, 320 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: we got detourd final question on the Eagles defense and 321 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: then we'll wrap it up. Their defensive front. They rotate 322 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: eight guys in and out. They stole Tracox, Devon Hargrey 323 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: is playing like at all pro. What are some of 324 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: the distinctive characteristics of the way they rushed the pass 325 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: or whether it's scheme or talent, you can talk about 326 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: both that makes their past rush dangerous. It's definitely both. 327 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: I think they have a great scheme um and and 328 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: they have guys that, um do their job really well. 329 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: Um And if defense is a defensive lines, you know, 330 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: there's there's players that take on blocks for the other 331 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: guy to make the play, and there's guys they do 332 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: twists and all this stuff, and there's some guy actually 333 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: servicing maybe not getting the stat not getting the sack, 334 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: but it allows his teammate to do it. And then 335 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: they also have talent. I mean they got fast edge 336 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: rushers and any I mean Fletcher Cox says, I mean 337 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: he's a beast, so he's in the middle of plugging 338 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: it up. So um, yeah, I think it's both scheme 339 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: and talent. They're playing to their strength but also playing 340 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: with swagger and um and playing fast, so we gotta be. 341 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to be ready on Sunday. Evan, great stuff, 342 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving, thank you, that's Giants tight end. Evan Ingram, 343 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: Hey Giant fans. This for Michael Strahan's jersey or time 344 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: and ceremony this Sunday at halftime when the Giants take 345 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: on the Eagles and MetLife Stadium one pm. Limited tickets 346 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: are available visit Giants dot com slash ninety two. You 347 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: can also secure your season tickets for the two season 348 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: today for only a hundred bucks. Limited seats available. Speak 349 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: with the Giants ticket representative now and become a season 350 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: ticket member by calling eight eight eight n YG Now. 351 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: With a deeper look at the Eagles, were joined by 352 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: Dave Spadaro. He covers the Eagles for the team site, 353 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: Lance Mental and Paul Latino Speak to him. Giants will 354 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: resume divisional play as they host the Eagles on Sunday, 355 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: first meeting between these teams this season and New York's 356 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: third divisional game after losing the first two to Washington 357 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: and Dallas. And to get more into Philly, We're now 358 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: joined by Dave Spidero, Eagles insider for Philadelphia Eagles dot Com. 359 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: Davy got Lance Meadow and Paul Detino here greatly appreciate 360 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: the time. Hope Paul as well. How's everything on your end? 361 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: Thanks guys for having me. First of all, Happy Thanksgiving 362 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: to all and uh boy, the season's kind of change 363 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: direction year for the Eagles and it's been really fun 364 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: to watch a team um evolved. I guess is the 365 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: word into and I guess we're saying a playoff Chase. Well, 366 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up because I want to 367 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: start with the turnaround, and I think what's synonymous with 368 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: the turnaround, Dave is all of a sun and a 369 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: team that is willing and having success running the football 370 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: with over two hundred rushing yards in each of their 371 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: last two games no surprise they won both of those contests. 372 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: How much is I would say the continuity on the 373 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: offensive line in conjunction with the run game really responsible 374 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: in terms of helping this team turn things around? Well, 375 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: look as we know, uh, all the clamor boys get 376 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: all the headlines, those who score the touchdowns and have 377 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: the big games and make all the fancy plays. But 378 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: what really makes it work in the NFL really at 379 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: every level of football is the line of scrimmage. And 380 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: the Eagles felt coming into the season if they would 381 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: have a strong offensive line. And you know, they opened 382 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: the season in Atlanta and they had a really balanced attack. 383 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: They ran the ball very well. They ran the ball 384 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: well the following week against the Niners, and that's when 385 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: the injuries started. And they had four starting lineups in 386 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: the first five games. So it was tough. I mean, 387 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: it was a it was a tough, bittest letting for 388 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: the Eagles with with players on the offensive line going 389 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: in and out. They inserted their second round draft pick 390 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: Land and Dickerson into into the left guard position. They 391 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: started a second year player, Jack Driscoll to the right 392 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: guard position. Jordan my Latta, who had never played football 393 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: until the Eagles drafted him in two thousand and eighteen, 394 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: get some playing time last year. All of a sudden, 395 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: he's the left tackle and it has been Lane Johnson 396 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: was in and out of the lint up. You know, 397 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: he had his personal problems for a few games. You 398 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: missed some time. All of a sudden, they come back 399 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: a month ago and they have just been crushing people, 400 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: I mean just bawling people. And I hate to use 401 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: the word road greater because road Grader kind of implies 402 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: that they're not athletic. This is a big, powerful, strong, 403 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: and extremely athletic offensive line that has absolutely fueled his 404 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: Eagle's offense and the resurgence of the season. David's one 405 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: thing to say that a team is now suddenly going 406 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: to be very run heavy. It's another thing to say 407 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: that they're run heavy primarily because of their quarterback. Now, 408 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: given the fact that Hurts obviously has a skill set 409 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: that tailors to this style of offense, is it simply 410 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: because the line got squared away that they went to 411 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: this style so late in the season, Because one could 412 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: obviously ask why didn't they start out going this way 413 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: with Hurts from the very beginning? You know again, Atlanta 414 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: opening week they did. They ran the ball a lot. 415 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: Week to San Francisco, they ran the ball a lot. 416 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,479 Speaker 1: Week three, Dallas, they fell behind the defense gonna get 417 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: off the field. They fell behind. They went way the 418 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: other way um and struggled the week three. Week four, 419 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: the offense played well against the Kansas City Chiefs. So, 420 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like the all of a sudden 421 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: started running a bit. I think that's a bit of 422 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: a misnomer. They went away from it for sure as 423 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: the offensive line deteriorated. Uh, they went a little bit. No, 424 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: they went a lot of bit past heavy and they 425 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: just kind of readjust it back and and got everybody healthy. 426 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: And yes, it's it's in part because of Jalen's multidimensional 427 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: skills for sure, because it actually i mean, look, it 428 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: adds an element that is very difficult, as we were 429 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: seeing for defenses to contend with um. At the same time, 430 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: he's become a much improved pocket passer. You know, they've 431 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: made big plays down the field in the passing game 432 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: with Goddard at tight end, Devantage Smith's had wide receivers, 433 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: so you know there is some balance. Now. Look against 434 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: the Saints on Sunday, they ran the ball fifty times. 435 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: I mean against the number one run defense in the league, 436 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: they put up to forty two. So if they were 437 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: three yards in a cloud of AstroTurf for whatever they 438 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: call it them, whatever it is now, would be yeah, 439 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: pebble right right right, then it would be like, hey, 440 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: this might not be this might not cut it in 441 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: today's NFL. But they're they're gashing and they're they're averaging 442 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: six yards to carry, and they're picking up big plays 443 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: and they're mixing in the past, and they're keeping defenses 444 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: off balance. So I mean, I think they can they 445 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: can win either way. I really thought it was interesting 446 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: because as they started to pick this thing up, you know, 447 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: the Eagles went into Denver a couple of weeks ago, 448 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: good run defense. I kind of thought that Denver would 449 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: lay back and mush rush and and try to keep 450 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: Jalen in the pocket, and instead they came after him 451 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: with sublitz and he handled it. And the Eagles went 452 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: for a big game against the Broncos, and they followed 453 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: up with a huge game against a really good Saints defense, 454 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: as you guys know. So um yeah, I mean it's 455 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: not it's not because Jalen runs, but it's certainly his 456 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: skills add to the mix and and provide something that 457 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 1: is really unique. I guess outside of Baltimore in this league. Well, 458 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: I'm glad you broke the Raymond because actually that's where 459 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: I wanted to go, Dave. I'm watching Philadelphia. I'm reminded 460 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: a lot about Baltimore, and I in no way I'm 461 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: saying that Jalen hurts his lamar Jackson or vice versa. 462 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: But it seems as if when you look at Baltimore, 463 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: you always have to account for Lamarck take off at 464 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: any time, and that bodes very well for the other 465 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: Ravens conventional running back. So how much is that now 466 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: drawing attention to or Jalen? Teams are so concerned about 467 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: him running that whether it be Miles Sanders or Jordan 468 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: Howard or Boston Scott have a lot more leeway and 469 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: flexibility to work with on the ground. Yeah, it's a 470 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: good point, and you know there are there are a 471 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: lot of r pls in this offense, and there's a 472 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: lot of decisions that Jalens create opportunities for the downhill 473 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: runs of Miles and Jordan, who's like the definition Jordan 474 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: Howard who won't play this week, the definition of North 475 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: South power runner, Boston Scott who always has big games 476 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: against the Giants um and then Kenny Gainwell, their rookie 477 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: who played well early in the season. He'll be active 478 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: this week should Jordan not play. Jordan Howard not played, 479 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: So it doesn't created a lot of different styles, a 480 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: lot of different looks that keeps defenses off balance, and 481 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: you know Look, I've been here a long long time. Uh, 482 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: this is unprecedented in terms of just the the way 483 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: the Eagles are just overwhelming defenses in his last month 484 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: with the running game oil. Look, we know down this 485 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: down the stretch here, defenses are going to adjust and 486 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: there's going to become times when the Eagles are not 487 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: going to have these running lanes and this success running 488 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: the football, and then Dyalen Hurts will have to prove 489 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: that he can win from the pocket, and that's kind 490 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: of the next step in his evolution. But for right now, 491 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: they're going to ride the run as long as it 492 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: will take it, as long as they keep winning and 493 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: and and becoming more of a I guess a factor 494 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: in the playoff Chase, Well, Dave, not every team can 495 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: run the ball all the time. You still have to 496 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: throw it sometimes. And it's been for years now that 497 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: the Eagles have missed on drafting wide receivers and free 498 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: agency who they brought in and just never seemed to 499 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: live up to their potential. But Davante Smith right now 500 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: is doing some dangerous things in the past game. How 501 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: significant is it for him to be able to effective? Yeah, 502 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: he's stealthy, I mean he is like you look at him. 503 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: I remember when the summer watching the Eagles had a 504 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: joint practice at the Jets, and I was watching with 505 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: NFL Networks Brian Baldinger, and we were looking at Tavante 506 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: and he goes, I just I've never seen a player 507 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: have absolutely no lower body, like nothing in his legs 508 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: like he's got. He's like spin Ley. And yet he's 509 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: he's fast, he's really tough. He has in eight skills 510 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: in and out of his routes. Um, he gets off 511 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: the press really well. And he's a complete receiver at 512 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:41,479 Speaker 1: six one, I guess one five maybe, Uh, he's really 513 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: really stepped up to the plate as the wide receiver 514 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: to go and um, he has been everything the Eagles 515 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 1: thought he would be when they treated up for him 516 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: in round one, and they you're right. They have missed 517 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: in the past, and they've been trying to get it right, 518 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: and I think in number six they got it right. 519 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: It'll be really interesting to watch him in this down 520 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: the stretch here with five of thee these games in 521 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: the last six and and see how he matches up 522 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: and gives some really good quarterbacks in this division. We're 523 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: talking away Dave Spidero Eagles insider for Philadelphia Eagles dot Com, 524 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: as the Eagles will visit the Giants on Sunday, I 525 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: want to flip to the defensive side of the ball, Dave, 526 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: and you look at the sack numbers, eighteen sacks for 527 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: the Eagles. They didn't have any against the Saints this 528 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: past week. I know they lost Brandon Graham, But when 529 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: you think of Philadelphia's defense over the last few years, 530 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: and maybe mainly when Jim Schwartz was the defensive coordinator, 531 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: a lot of depth, keep guys fresh, they get after 532 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: the quarterback. Has there been a dip in production based 533 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: on those numbers in your mind or are we reading 534 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: too much into that based on what's played out this season. Yeah, 535 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: I think there's been a bit of a dip. I 536 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: mean the defense has um started to um played better, 537 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: but there were stretches this season when it's just you know, quarterbacks. 538 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:56,239 Speaker 1: I think five quarterbacks have completed or better of their 539 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: passes against the Eagles. I mean it was really soft coverage, 540 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: it was very zone driven, it was very safe and 541 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: frankly didn't challenge and the Eagles talked about this challenging 542 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: more challenging quarterbacks, challenging receivers, challenging the line of scrimmage 543 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: more and only in the last few weeks that we've 544 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: seen them do that really in Detroit. Uh it happened, 545 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: of course, it's not particularly difficult to challenge Detroit. You know. 546 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: Then the Chargers came in and Justin Herbert had a 547 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: field day throwing the football, a really successful day. Great quarterback, 548 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: great receivers. The the defense is predicated and don't give 549 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: up the big play. And when you do that sometimes 550 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: you you give up too much underneath. And Eagles, I 551 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: think found that they were giving up too much underneath. 552 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: So um, you know, team quarterbacks were against the four 553 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: man pass rush, you're not gonna get home all a lot. 554 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: So in the past few weeks, Jonathan Gannon has dialed 555 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: up the blitz a bit more, mixed up his coverage 556 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: is a bit more. They've had a lot of success 557 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: taking the football away. Three takeaways against the Saints, including 558 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: a pick six. Darius Slay had that pick six the 559 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: week before he had a scoop and score like against 560 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: the Broncos. So you know, they've been that they want 561 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: to be a takeaway machine. They've done a pretty good 562 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: job at that twelve takeaways in the last nine games, 563 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: and that has fueled the defense a bit here um. 564 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: But they're also benefiting from an offense that's controlling the 565 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: time of possession, controlling the football, and and keeping the 566 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: defense off the field. So losing Brandon Graham was a 567 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: really significant loss. They have not been able to really 568 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: replace that edge presence and that production. Dave, let me 569 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: ask you about slay You met, you mentioned him with 570 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: the pick six a couple of moments ago. Now, for 571 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: three years he was a teammate in Detroit with Kenny 572 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: Golladay of the Giants. So I'm kind of curious about 573 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: this matchup because the way I understand it, slay has 574 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: been shadowing the best receiver on the other team for 575 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: much of this season. How do you expect that matchup 576 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: to go? Yeah, I mean, if they decide to do that, look, 577 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think the Giants, I think 578 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: that the danger point for the Eagles in his games. 579 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: The Giants have excellent skilled position players. Slayton always has 580 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: big him against the Eagles. Uh, you know they they 581 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: in the past. They've gotten production from Shepherd. I don't 582 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: know if he's playing this week. For you guys, um. 583 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: And then of course Colliday has tremendous talent, so I 584 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: could see Slay matching up with Holiday. I could see 585 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: Slagh matching up with Slat. And the Eagle's other quarterback 586 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: is Stephen Nelson is a veteran, has been around the 587 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: league and has been productive in his time. And the 588 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: slab receiver is a Vonte Maddox whose contract which just then, 589 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: so they are three one, two and three um, and 590 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: again they don't want to give up anything over the top, 591 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: so they want to make Daniel Jones in his offense 592 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: work and be patient and and hopefully for the Eagles. Uh, 593 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: the Giants will make a mistakes somewhere along the way. 594 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, that would be a really great matchup. I 595 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: I guess Holiday. I mean it was hurt and I 596 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: don't know if he's completely healthy and productive and whatever, 597 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: but when he's at his best, he's outstanding. So that 598 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: would be a terrific matchup. He and Darius Slay Dave 599 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: before we let you go. Unrelated to x as it 600 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: oh is clearly the big storyline entering this game is 601 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: how last season ended. Given the Giant and thought maybe 602 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: the Eagles would do them a favor and played competitively 603 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: from start to finish. It didn't necessarily work out that way. 604 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: I'm curious from Philadelphia's perspective. The reason I'm asking this is, 605 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: as you know, it's a completely new coaching staff and 606 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: it was turned over on the roster. Is there any 607 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: of that carry over from Philadelphia's perspective in terms of 608 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: how animated and motivated this Giant's team could be because 609 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: of how last season ended? Yeah? No, I really don't 610 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: think so, because, like you said, new coaching staff. Um, 611 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: certain look there there's already bad blood. This is a 612 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: great rivalry. So I mean, I mean the Giants are 613 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: going through some things this week where they're trying to 614 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: get their season straightened out. I'm not sure anybody's really 615 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: thinking about last year. It was quite a reaction from 616 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: the Giants, and it was certainly quite an unusual approach 617 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: to these regular season finale for the Eagles, and I 618 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,479 Speaker 1: understand the way the Giants felt. Um, But to me, like, 619 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: I just think it's a great robber. I think it 620 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: just had spice too. Two teams that don't particularly like 621 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: each other's So I don't really It hasn't been mentioned 622 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: down here the players are just kind of excited that 623 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: they've put a little bit of success together three of 624 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: the last four, two straight wins, and at five and 625 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: six have got something going here. So I don't really 626 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: think you're thinking about last year. And I know the 627 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: head coach, Nick Sirianni, has absolutely nothing to do with 628 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: last year, and he's He's mentioned many times like I'm 629 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: not here last year. I don't know what happened in 630 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: the past. My focus is on right now. So I 631 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: think that's approach this team is gonna take. I think 632 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: more so that the talk in Philly is more like, hey, 633 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: went over the Giants. This team is a legit playoff contender. 634 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: I think that's what they're trying to tamp down and 635 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: try to just focus on beating the New York Giants 636 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: well on the easy way to do damage in terms 637 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: of getting back into postseason mixes, obviously handling your business 638 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: within divisional play as this rivalry will renew on Sunday. 639 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: He is Dave Spidero, Eagles insider for Philadelphia Eagles dot Com. 640 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: Dave always a blast talking with you. Greatly appreciate it, 641 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: and we look forward to seeing you and speaking to 642 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: you on Sunday. Thank you so much, have a healthy 643 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: and happy weekend, and every Thanksgiving everybody you as well, 644 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: Thanks so much. That's Davi Spadaro. Just a reminder of 645 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: the delta variant is spreading quickly in all areas of 646 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: New York State. People who are not fully vaccinated or 647 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,959 Speaker 1: at a greater risk from COVID nineteen. Protect yourself, get vaccinated, 648 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: visit n Y dot gov slash get vaccinated, or talk 649 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: to your healthcare provider. Now we're joined by the head 650 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: coach of the Giants, Joe Judge bop Bop. I had 651 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: the chance to talk to him. Coach first and foremost, 652 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: a little bit of a change in your schedule this 653 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: week with Thanksgiving on Thursday, to give the fans of 654 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,239 Speaker 1: feeling on sort of how you have to structure that week. Yes, 655 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: so I'd say, you know, in any season when it's 656 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: a Thanksgiving Today practice, you want to make sure you 657 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: always structure the afternoons to be the families. And you know, 658 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: whether it's Thanksgiving or Christmas, you've always got to go 659 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: ahead and understand that you've got to create time for 660 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: family time on that So typically we're doing Thanksgiving, which 661 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: what we did today or this week was. You bring 662 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: the players in a little bit earlier, so we start 663 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: at seven am. As a team. You get in your meetings, 664 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: you move quickly through the morning, you hit on the 665 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: field practice and you've really done about twelve twelve thirty. 666 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: You get the players off, you get them out, give 667 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: in the afternoon, off with their families, make sure they 668 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: all have time. And you know, we've got a lot 669 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: of younger guys on our teams. Will stress the importance 670 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: of making sure no one's alone on Thanksgiving this year, 671 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: you know, being as though it was a Monday night 672 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: game before, it's even a little bit different. So you 673 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,719 Speaker 1: get back really early Tuesday morning. Tuesday's a player's day 674 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: of If you bring in Wednesday, coming off that short week, 675 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: we had to walk through day. On Wednesday, we bring 676 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: the guys in, We let them sleep a little bit 677 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,719 Speaker 1: and catch ups, and brought at nine o'clock. You end 678 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: up work until about five thirty that night with the guys. 679 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: You go through some walk throughs, an extensive meetings, try 680 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: to get the base of the material you know, early 681 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: in the week, and then you come in Thursday, you 682 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: go through that Thanksgiving schedule. I talked about and then 683 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: what you have to do is you have to make 684 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: up the time you lose on the back end of 685 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: Thursday on Friday morning. So you bring the guys in 686 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: and you go through the film, you make the corrections, 687 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,479 Speaker 1: You basically simulate the afternoon the next morning, and then 688 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: you jump in your Friday schedule, move on through and 689 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: get on the field. And so it ends up and 690 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: in Friday's practice a little bit later than normal, but 691 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: you gotta go ahead, and you know, Rob Peter Paypol. 692 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: So you come off the game on Monday night obviously 693 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: a big disappointment in all aspects of things. Um, how 694 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: do you try to build your team back up and 695 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: getting ready to play this game against Philadelphia today? Yeah, 696 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: it's not really much about building them back up. You 697 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,239 Speaker 1: show the tape, you make corrections, you move on. Then 698 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: next opponent. That's the most important thing is you move forward, 699 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: you know, as a team, and you emperasize what's gonna 700 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: be important against Philadelphia and how you have to play 701 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: and execute. And that's the biggest thing you come out 702 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: of it. You know, one thing about short weeks is 703 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: you don't have a lot of time to dwell on 704 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: what happened. Good or bad in the previous game, you 705 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: move on next opponent. That's whately where focus goes. Coach, 706 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: you take a look at you know their stuff and 707 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: what they've done over the last four games. As far 708 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: as running the ball, I mean, they're feeding the rock 709 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: forty three times the game and attempts they're averaging over 710 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: two hundred yards the game. What do they do so 711 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: well in their run game? Obviously the quarterback is unique, 712 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: but their scheme and what they do so well well, 713 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: they're extremely talented. There's a lot of talent on this roster, 714 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: and that kind of adds the variety they can play too. 715 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: When you look at the skill positions on the perimeter 716 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: and makes you really respect the past game down the field, 717 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: and they have a lot of speed out there, and 718 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: they have a lot of talented receivers. They have a 719 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: good tight and we've got it in terms of his 720 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: ability to make catch and run plays. And then it 721 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: goes the running backs. You know Sanders Boston, you know 722 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: Howard as well, who's been injured for the most part. 723 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: These guys are talented players, and you throw the quarterback 724 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: in there on top of it gives them a lot 725 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: of variety. And that ties into the run game in 726 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: terms of they can run their direct runs and poll 727 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: schemes and gap runs and traditional zones. But really what 728 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: they've been doing mostly is a lot of the quarterback 729 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: you know, read schemes where you may have double polars 730 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: going one way with the back and the quarterbacks going opposite. 731 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: You have to, you know, pick how you fit it, 732 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: and you've gotta be balanced and how you attack it. 733 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: A lot of times, if you get out of whack, 734 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: that leads to an open seam and explosive run. And 735 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: that's where they've really been hitting a lot of teams 736 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: with is when you get on sound on a play, 737 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: you have poor eye control, you have poor discipline and 738 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: your technique and your assignment, and that's when they go 739 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: ahead and they have those explosive runs. So there's a 740 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: combination of those misdirection runs with the quarterback runs also 741 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: the r p O s where sometimes they'll have the 742 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: run pass read. And then the other thing is a 743 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: large part of the run game comes with hurts just 744 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: pulling the ball down and running and you've got to 745 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: be very conscious in the past game, but the scrambles 746 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: and then pulling down a quarter at runs because he'll 747 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: pull down and run a situation. In fact, a lot 748 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: of times more critical the situation more likely he has 749 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: to pull down and run. He runs like a running 750 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: back in space. And I said, I meaning he's a 751 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: strong runner. He's really a one cut runner, stick his 752 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: foot in the ground and go through your arm tackles. 753 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: He's not much of a dancer, although he has good elusiveness. 754 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 1: But he's a very instinctive player. And he's a guy 755 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: that's used his legs his entire life to extend plays 756 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: and make plays and he's continue to do so. Right now, 757 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 1: go to the other side of the ball and them 758 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: on the defensive side, you know their front obviously, when 759 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: you when you're dealing with a guy like Fletcher Cox, 760 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: that's a weapon. But they've got other guys up there 761 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: that really kind of bring it all together, don't they. 762 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: Yeah that you know what they really do. And you know, 763 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: we've all known about Fletcher for a long time. I 764 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: think Hardgrave's doing a really, really good job this year. 765 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: And this guy is playing very very disruptive. He's extremely quick, 766 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: but he's very powerful. You know, they lost Brandon Graham. 767 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: One thing that told our players this guy really rushes 768 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: like Graham on the inside in terms of how he 769 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: plays with power and pad level and really gets his 770 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: hips around, you know, and can turn the edge on 771 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: the guard right there. He does a really good job 772 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: of playing that skill set. He's very disruptive inside the 773 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: is a really good job of playing across guards faces, 774 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: really disrupting the pocket inside out, making the quarterbacks move. 775 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: Barnett's doing a really good job off the edge, and 776 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: you have to be conscious of him. And this is 777 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: a guy who he can win with his initial quickness 778 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: or you know, his counter moves if you really overplay 779 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: one thing. He's done a good job and very productive. 780 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: And they really mixed their entire defensive front throughout the 781 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: game and keep them fresh, and that's really something that 782 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: you have to account for. And then off the pressure 783 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: they get disruptive and it's created some huge plays on 784 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: the perimeter. Sleigh obviously has scored three times in the 785 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: last three games. This guy is making a lot of plays, 786 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: playing very aggressive. He's playing very confident. One thing that 787 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: shows up with him is when you have those long 788 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: throws across the field. Here's a good job of playing 789 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: with good zone vision, which they play a lot of 790 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 1: zone and he jumps at agress when he jumped on 791 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,919 Speaker 1: down and make the play. The other thing is he's 792 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: very opportunistic in terms of flowing to the ball, and 793 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: they do a good job of ripping balls off of 794 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: the players, the runners, and he's found himself obviously in 795 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: Denver game on the scoop and score situation. But he's 796 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: a guy that when he gets the ball in his hand, 797 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: it's kind of like a receiver or punt return if 798 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,720 Speaker 1: he was in terms of just having that speed, finding space, 799 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: extending it and running and finishing. Coach, best of luck 800 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: this afternoon. I appreciate that's Giants head coach Joe Judge. 801 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: As a reminder, you could take in all of the 802 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: action of New York Giants football from your own private suitet. 803 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,439 Speaker 1: Giant Sweets are a great way to entertain the family 804 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: and friends while rooting on your Giants and MetLife stadium 805 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: speak with the Giant Sweet rep now by calling eight 806 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: eight n Y G NINT. We thank Joe Judge, We 807 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: thank Evan Ingram, and we thank the Spot for joining 808 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: us on this episode of the Giant Subtle Podcast. 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