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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to the Friday Mini Show. Got a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of stuff to get through, Ryan Graham, great.

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Speaker 2: To see you, My friends, Nice to see you.

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Speaker 1: So we are hoping that our right wing friend Emily

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Speaker 1: Kishinski is going to join us for some of the

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Speaker 1: latter topics here. In particular, we're going to get into

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Speaker 1: the Jeffrey Epstein the big release of the files, which

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Speaker 1: there's quite a bit of MAGA pushback on how all

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Speaker 1: of that went down, which is quite quite amusing.

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Speaker 3: Ryan, I like that one.

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Speaker 4: Yes, And so we have about ten or twenty minutes

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Speaker 4: to cram in as much left as propaganda as we

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Speaker 4: can until she comes in and checks us. And later

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Speaker 4: today we're going to be posting our interview with former

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Speaker 4: CFP to CFPB director Roe hit Chopra.

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Speaker 2: Emily couldn't join that.

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Speaker 4: She had to shed a flight she had to catch,

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Speaker 4: so it's just me and row Hit But I played

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Speaker 4: for him the like the Mark Zuckerberg comments on Rogan

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Speaker 4: and Mark Andresen comments Jamie Diamond calling him an arrogant,

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Speaker 4: out of touch SOB and had him respond to all

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Speaker 4: of those different charges.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what we're kind of the big takeaways there, because

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Speaker 1: I haven't gotten a chance to watch it yet either,

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Speaker 1: And that was one of the clearest examples to me,

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Speaker 1: and you called it out immediately of how these oligarchs,

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Speaker 1: the Andreasons of the world and the Zuckerbergs of the

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Speaker 1: world were trying to use a like fake culture war

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Speaker 1: agenda to trick people into supporting what is just like

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Speaker 1: a blatantly pro oligarchic agenda. And one of the things

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Speaker 1: we actually have in the show is some of the

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Speaker 1: CFPB enforcements that have now been rolled back now that

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Speaker 1: that agency is just completely gutted.

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Speaker 4: I think it's just really interesting for people to hear

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Speaker 4: precisely what the CFPB was doing that got these people upset.

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Speaker 4: And for instance, when the White House basically tried to

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Speaker 4: get rid of the CFBB, they put out a statement

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Speaker 4: that listed like six seven things that they objected to

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Speaker 4: and included links to stories.

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Speaker 2: So I went through it with Chopra. All Right, they say, you.

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Speaker 4: You know, try to enforce price controls on banks. Click

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Speaker 4: through the link, like what is this and he's like, oh,

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Speaker 4: that's our overdraft rule that said you can't you know,

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Speaker 4: illegally shuffle around people's payments. So that they get five

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Speaker 4: overdrafts rather than one, and the White House pulls the

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Speaker 4: price controls.

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Speaker 3: So so dishonest.

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Speaker 4: Think I wish every person in the country could you know,

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Speaker 4: we'll watch this interview.

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Speaker 3: Well maybe they will, you never know. I'll go ahead

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Speaker 3: and pull this up.

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Speaker 1: This was an element I had for later along with

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Speaker 1: we've got a whole bunch of updates on Doge. We've

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Speaker 1: got some court pushback on Doge. That's really significant. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is what the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau

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Speaker 1: was doing. They had these different enforcement actions against Capital

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Speaker 1: One against Berkshire Hathaway owned Vanderbilt Mortgage and Finance, against

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Speaker 1: a predatory student loan company, and now all of that

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Speaker 1: is just being completely dropped and going away. So and

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Speaker 1: of course it's no mistake, you know, a no accident

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Speaker 1: that Elon Musk had just signed a deal with Visa.

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Speaker 1: He wants to turn Twitter into one of these payment

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Speaker 1: processors as well and be the quote unquote everything app

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Speaker 1: they would have fallen under CFPB regulatory jurisdiction. And now

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Speaker 1: the cfp BE basically doesn't exist anymore, so they have

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Speaker 1: more of a free hand to scam people and do

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Speaker 1: some of the things like what Sam Bankman freed was rightfully,

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Speaker 4: For doing Yeah, and Zuckerberg went on Rogan and was like,

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Speaker 4: I don't understand why this agency would come after us.

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Speaker 4: We have nothing to do with any any finance or

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Speaker 4: financial institution behavior. And Rohit pointed out just five years

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Speaker 4: ago they launched their own currency called Libra, Like, are

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Speaker 4: we supposed to pretend that that never happened.

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Speaker 1: The thing that was to me the most insulting was

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Speaker 1: Zuckerberg pretending, oh, I don't even know what this agency.

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Speaker 3: Dude, shut the fuck up, like, stop playing dumb.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, the Rogan just going along with all of

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Speaker 2: But in any case, if he watches it too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he actually just recorded a big long interview apparently

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Speaker 1: with Elon, so that's gonna be interesting as well.

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Speaker 3: Well, we'll stay tuned forward to that. Yeah, yeah, for

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Speaker 3: what comes down to that one.

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Speaker 1: But let's go ahead and jump into the latest Widows

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Speaker 1: just to give a sketch of what we're going to

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Speaker 3: We've got all the Doge updates.

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Speaker 1: The court orders, the latest in terms of the cuts

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Speaker 1: That's a really significant one. Right now, we've also got

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Speaker 1: all of the Epstein melee from yesterday and MAGA free

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Speaker 1: and actually some MAGA pushback over that as well.

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Speaker 3: But it looks very.

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Speaker 1: Much like the Trump administration intervened to get these alleged

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Speaker 1: rapists and sex traffickers to be able to travel to

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Speaker 3: So, you know, you've got a lot of sex.

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Speaker 1: Trafficker rapist stories here relevant to the day, and we've

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Speaker 1: saved those for later in the show. We're hoping Emily

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Speaker 1: to get a perspective from the right about all of

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Speaker 1: this stuff is landing. But let me go ahead and

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Speaker 1: jump in with this. So a couple of significant court

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Speaker 1: So a judge has blocked the Trump administrations firings of

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Speaker 1: federal workers. This pertains to you guys, know how they

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Speaker 1: just came in and said, Okay, everybody who is still

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Speaker 1: And you know, that's mostly people who are new on

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Speaker 1: the job, but also, as Ryan pointed out previously, it's

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Speaker 1: also people who just got promotions. So you're talking about

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Speaker 1: I learned too, Ryan, is you know, we have all

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Speaker 1: these programs for military spouses, who of course are having

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Speaker 1: and so they would more frequently than your average employee

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Speaker 1: tremendously hit hard by this. Let me just read a

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Speaker 4: That, I have to offer one clarification. The probationary period

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Speaker 4: that doesn't kick you back into the probationary period, and

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Speaker 4: the best interpretations of when your probationary period in management,

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Speaker 4: they can't actually fire you from that. They would push

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Speaker 2: But lots of people do move.

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Speaker 4: From agency to agency or get detailed and then come

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Speaker 4: back or and so those would all be caught up.

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Speaker 4: So it's not complete blanket anybody who got promoted, which

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Speaker 4: is what I implied on the show.

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Speaker 2: So I wanted to kind of.

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Speaker 1: Correct that, gotcha, Okay, So here is what the Washington

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Speaker 1: Posts is reporting. A federal judge on Thursday ordered the

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Speaker 1: Office of Personnel Management to recent directives that initiated the

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Speaker 1: mass firing or probationary workers across the government, ruling that

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Speaker 1: the terminations were probably illegal, as a group of labor

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Speaker 1: So really significant here. The ruling a temporary restraint on

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Speaker 1: one of the biggest roadblocks so far to Trump's effort

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Speaker 1: to slash the federal workforce. Here's about some of the

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Speaker 1: language from the judge. They say, Congress has given the

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Speaker 3: The Department of Defense, for.

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Speaker 1: Example, has statutory authority to hire and fire. The Office

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Speaker 1: of Personnel Management does not have any authority whatsoever, under

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Speaker 1: federal government workers who have been fired, as you know,

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Speaker 1: part of this effort to act all the probationary employees

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and in a sense, it's a process technicality in

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Speaker 4: And so lots of federal workers. Then we're like, well,

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Speaker 4: have said, you know, basically a kind of a reorganization

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Speaker 4: we don't it's not you, it's me. We don't need

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Speaker 4: directly from you know, if it's Noah, then Noah would.

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Speaker 2: Have to do the firing.

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Speaker 4: And so then a judge might say okay, well this

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I also saw as part of their arguments here,

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Speaker 1: the government is changing their tune. You know, originally they

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Speaker 1: really a recommendation, and then the agencies are taken upon

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Speaker 1: themselves to fire all of these employees because that gets around.

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Speaker 1: You know, what the judge said here is like there

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Speaker 1: is no statue anywhere they said in the history of

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Speaker 1: the universe that says OPM, just come in and fire

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Speaker 1: all of these staff across all of these agencies. They're

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Speaker 1: responsible for their own employees. They can fire whoever they

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Speaker 1: government mandate the Defense Department and everybody else to fire

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Speaker 1: get a little cute here. Oh well, we just this

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Speaker 1: weren't really mandating it. So we'll see if that changes anything.

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Speaker 6: Today, we are not voting on who the next Secretary

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Speaker 1: I believe they're limited to eight hours of you know,

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Speaker 1: depot testimony from these staffers that are involved here. And

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Speaker 1: this could be I mean, because it has been completely opaque.

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Speaker 1: We've had to rely on whistleblowers from within this very

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Speaker 1: these various agencies and some intrepid reporting from a whole

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Speaker 1: range of people, both kind of your traditional media types

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Speaker 1: like Jeff Stein, but also some who are more independent

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Speaker 1: media to try to figure out what they're even up

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Speaker 1: to and there, and we still have there's still a

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Speaker 1: lot of unanswered questions, So could be some interesting things

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Speaker 1: that come out of those depositions. So it's something to

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Speaker 1: keep an eye on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if we ever get them, you know, it's you

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Speaker 4: know they're going to because they're gonna have some wins

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Speaker 4: too in the courts.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we'll see.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they will.

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Speaker 1: They certainly will, I think, especially when they get up

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Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court given the ideological valance there. We've

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Speaker 1: mentioned Noah a couple times, and this is one of

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Speaker 1: the more significant cuts that's moving forward. It's also one

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Speaker 1: that was significantly signaled in Project twenty twenty five. They

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Speaker 1: are mass firing upwards of eighteen hundred workers at the

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Speaker 1: National Oceanic and Atmosphere Administration, including top climate scientists and

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Speaker 1: weather forecasters. The firings reportedly include workers at the National

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Speaker 1: Weather Service. And as I mentioned and Ryan you may

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Speaker 1: know more about, this has been kind of an ideological

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Speaker 1: project of the russ vote right, and in Project twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five, first of all, they hate they hate Noah

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Speaker 1: because they are honest about climate change, so they don't

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Speaker 1: like that. And then they also, you know, right now,

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Speaker 1: anyone including there's some weather ubers who have gotten really big,

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Speaker 1: but your local weather forecast or anyone can access the

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Speaker 1: data and resources of the National Weather Service. And obviously

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Speaker 1: that's really important because we are having increasingly extreme and

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Speaker 1: increasingly regular climate catastrophes, and the right, led by RUSS

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Speaker 1: vote and Project twenty twenty five, et cetera, they have

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Speaker 1: long wanted to effectively privatize that function so that people

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Speaker 1: have to pay in order to get that kind of research,

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Speaker 1: and it's stripped of anything that might indicate that, you know,

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Speaker 1: the climate crisis is fueling these things, and any of

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Speaker 1: the research that indicates what direction the climate crisis might take.

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Speaker 4: Right, it's for them, and actually, honestly, you could call

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Speaker 4: it it's socialism, like the public comes together and collectively

482
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Speaker 4: funds something that we all believe that we need, which

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Speaker 4: is some forecast about what the weather is going to

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Speaker 4: be like, both extreme events and regular events. And you know,

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Speaker 4: we make fun of the weatherman for getting things wrong.

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Speaker 2: But the are the the.

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Speaker 4: Apps on our phone are pretty good, like you think,

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Speaker 4: if you think about it, if you know, they tell.

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Speaker 2: You what it's going to be.

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Speaker 4: They're they're nailing it pretty often, and people find it

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Speaker 4: very helpfully. You've got you know, free access all the

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Speaker 4: time to this pretty accurate data, and they take for

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Speaker 4: granted that people some people take for granted that that

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Speaker 4: just comes from the sky, but it has to get

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Speaker 4: filtered through a bunch of scientists who are you know,

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Speaker 4: training their whole lives to figure this stuff out and

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Speaker 4: then and then pump it out to us for free.

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Speaker 4: And you're right, ACU Weather and these other places want

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Speaker 4: to just you know, monopolize it so they can so

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Speaker 4: they can charge you for it. But at the same

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Speaker 4: time they're going to it'll be a much crappier service

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Speaker 4: because they are getting rid of the people who know

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Speaker 4: who know how to do it right.

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Speaker 1: And this is one of those things where you know,

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Speaker 1: it requires significant scale to be able to do it

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Speaker 1: well and to be able to predict things effectively in

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Speaker 1: you know, every part of what is a large and

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Speaker 1: vast country, et cetera. So yeah, you'll be paying more

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Speaker 1: and you will be getting less. There were I wanted

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Speaker 1: to show two different people one knock.

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Speaker 2: On effect this could have.

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Speaker 4: The insurance companies are getting freaked out at a lack

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Speaker 4: of access to data, true, which and then if insurance

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Speaker 4: companies are in doubt, they're just going to raise rates

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Speaker 4: like they're you know, they're not your friend, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: So now we're shoot ourselves in a couple of feet

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Speaker 4: this way.

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to show a kind of like traditional

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Speaker 1: weather person and also I think the biggest YouTube weather guy,

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Speaker 1: Ryan hall al Roker wade in and said, going into

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Speaker 1: the severe weather and hurricane season, this cannot be good.

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Speaker 1: Commerce departments laid off hundreds of NOAH employees, many with

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Speaker 1: specialized skills, who work at one of the world's top

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Speaker 1: climate science and weather forecasting agencies. Why it matters National

525
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Speaker 1: Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, responsible for providing weather watches and warnings,

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Speaker 1: monitoring studying earth climate, as well as operating weather satellites

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Speaker 1: and protecting marine life. The layoffs of probotionary employees that

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Speaker 1: began Thursday hit soon after cuts at the behest of

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk's DOGE occurred at other climate and environment agencies.

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Speaker 1: The big picture, Noah's missions require staff to work around

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Speaker 1: the clock to monitor dan dangerous weather, earthquakes that could

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Speaker 1: cause tsunamis and other hazards. He goes on to note

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Speaker 1: that just in the past several weeks, they've been essential.

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Speaker 1: I mean, one of the stories that I've been covering

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Speaker 1: is the that you know, there were these horrific floods

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Speaker 1: in Appalachia, across parts of Virginia, West Virginia, Tennessee, and Kentucky,

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Speaker 1: historic levels of devastation.

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Speaker 3: First of all, it.

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Speaker 1: Took Trump almost two weeks to declare state of emergency

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Speaker 1: in West Virginia, which is just completely unforgivable. And you know,

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Speaker 1: if it had been Biden on the other side, it

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Speaker 1: would have been a total freak count from the Rye Hocket,

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Speaker 1: you abandon these people, et cetera, et cetera. But you know,

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Speaker 1: it really is a sort of coordinated attack not only

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Speaker 1: on Noah but also on FEMA. Trump is that he

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Speaker 1: wants to dismantle and send it to the states. It

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Speaker 1: was stated like West Virginia's a poor, small state, is

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Speaker 1: not going to have the ability to respond on their own.

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Speaker 1: But in any case, al Roker pointing out there that

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Speaker 1: the regularity of these events, now you say it's you know,

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Speaker 1: what was once a once in a hundred year flood

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Speaker 1: seems to be happening, you know, once every five year,

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Speaker 1: once every decade, with increasing regularity, all because of the

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Speaker 1: you know, escalating climate crisis.

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Speaker 4: Right, Federal emergency management is one of the most obvious

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Speaker 4: things you would want federalized. Yeah, if if a small,

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Speaker 4: if a small poor state like West Virginia could do

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Speaker 4: it on its own, they would.

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Speaker 2: Right they can.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly right. That's exactly right. And you know,

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Speaker 1: and actually it will be not that it matters whether

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Speaker 1: it's Trump voters or Democratic voters or whatever, but it

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Speaker 1: will be more red states that are harder hit because

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Speaker 1: states like California and New York, you know, they still

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Speaker 1: need federal garment help, but they will be more able

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Speaker 1: to respond. They have more resources than a state like

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Speaker 1: you know, West Virginia, or you know, Mississippi and Alabama,

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Speaker 1: a so on. Louisiana often hard hit by hurricanes as well.

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Speaker 2: Kansaw, Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: They all get whacked with Yeah, that's exactly right, tornadoes.

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Speaker 1: So you know, this is this is one that is

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Speaker 1: important for literally everyone in the country. This is the

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Speaker 1: YouTuber I was mentioning Ryan Hall. He says, this is

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Speaker 1: Devid's stating news. Today's reported layoffs at the NWS will

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Speaker 1: impact our ability to keep American safe from extreme weather.

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Speaker 1: These forecasters are essentil frontline workers who save lives during hurricanes, tornadoes,

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Speaker 1: and floods. Cutting these meteorologists isn't just short sighted, it

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Speaker 1: is dangerous. And I think that's you know that almost

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Speaker 1: goes without saying, or it should go without saying.

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Speaker 4: It's it's it's very similar to cutting a bowl of funding,

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Speaker 4: like and they cut it.

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Speaker 2: You know that the Ebola outbreak.

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Speaker 4: Was I think was declared January twenty eighth or something,

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Speaker 4: and to be pausing at Bola prevention funding at that

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Speaker 4: moment is absurd. And you know he claimed, oh we

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Speaker 4: kicked it back up very quickly. That appears, like you said,

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Speaker 4: not to be true. But even if you wait, you

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Speaker 4: lost three days, and only three days. I people understand

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Speaker 4: how infectious a bowla is, like you have, like it's

590
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Speaker 4: you save so much money and so many lives by

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Speaker 4: getting it right away. It costs so much more to

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Speaker 4: be slow and let it spread and then try to

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Speaker 4: come in and contain it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, with any one of these things,

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Speaker 1: it's like, well, maybe it'll be okay, you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: they'll get the funding turned back on, or the local

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Speaker 1: health authorities will do an effective job of stopping the spread.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the cuts that they air with the air traffic

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Speaker 1: controller at the FAA, maybe it'll work out, you know.

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Speaker 2: And maybe yesterday they missed each other.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it worked out, you know, no harm, no foul. Right,

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Speaker 1: it's all good. I don't know what you libs are

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Speaker 1: panicking about. You know, maybe the Social Security Administration will

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Speaker 1: be able to cut all the checks on time and

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Speaker 1: with accuracy with half the staff.

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Speaker 4: But and nobody's nobody's case will get denied because they

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Speaker 4: didn't have access to an office.

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Speaker 1: But sure, right, yeah, or you know, maybe just not

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Speaker 1: that many so we don't really care all that much

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Speaker 1: or hear about them. Probably yeah, And maybe you know,

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Speaker 1: they'll do good enough job of predicting hurricanes and tornadoes

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Speaker 1: and whatever that it doesn't cause an immediate catastrophic loss

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Speaker 1: of life. But that's a lot of ifs, and you're

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Speaker 1: spreading them across the entire government, you know, food safety,

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Speaker 1: like all of these things. Hey, Emily, Hi, Hi, everyone,

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Speaker 1: just in time. Actually one more story and then we're

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Speaker 1: getting to Epstein and tape. So you're right on schedule.

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Speaker 1: But you know, when you're talking about all of these

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Speaker 1: risks and cuts comparted across the federal government, I think

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Speaker 1: David Day made this point, like you are taking responsibility

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Speaker 1: for every catastrophe.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of unfold stupid.

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Speaker 1: And even in the best of circumstances, there are going

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Speaker 1: to be catastrophes, even when things are running at full

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Speaker 1: tilt and it's most efficient, and you know, God forbid,

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Speaker 1: we have another pandemic. They had to quickly scramble to

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Speaker 1: rehire the people who were monitoring the bird flu spread.

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Speaker 1: You know, they had to quickly rehire the dude was

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Speaker 1: like watching over nuclear safety. How many other stories like

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Speaker 1: there like that are there across government that we don't

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Speaker 1: even know about.

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Speaker 4: The attack on and Emily and I've talked about this.

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Speaker 4: The attack on the FAA and air traffic controllers is

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Speaker 4: the one that is probably just politically the stupidest, because

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Speaker 4: you then own every plane crash after that, even if

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Speaker 4: you had nothing to do with it. I was talking

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Speaker 4: to an air traffic controller yesterday who said that while

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Speaker 4: so far air traffic controllers themselves have not been affected,

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Speaker 4: like have not been fired, even the ones that are probationary.

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Speaker 4: He said he's lost most of his support staff and contracts,

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Speaker 4: like contractors that were assisting them. So before they'd have

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Speaker 4: people helping with their scheduling, helping order equipment that you

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Speaker 4: need to make sure that all of your stuff continues

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Speaker 4: to work, and all the other kind of technical support

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Speaker 4: that goes on in the background. So they got rid

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Speaker 4: of all of them, and so now it's just the

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Speaker 4: air traffic controllers. And so Elon Musk is like, well, hey, look,

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Speaker 4: we didn't fire the air traffic controllers, so it's not

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Speaker 4: our fault if there's a plane crash. But now you

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Speaker 4: have the air traffic controllers trying to fix the equipment

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Speaker 4: and ordering the parts for the equipment and scheduling their

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Speaker 4: own travel and like doing all the things that they

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Speaker 4: used to have help doing. So while they're doing that,

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Speaker 4: what are they not doing?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean you could think about it in the

658
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Speaker 1: context of this show, like, you know, if.

659
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Speaker 3: All the support staff of this show was fired, the

660
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Speaker 3: show would still what we didn't.

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Speaker 2: Fire, Crystal, What are you complaining about?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: It would not be a good show. It would not

664
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Speaker 1: go off, Well, it wouldn't go out on time. I

665
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Speaker 1: don't even know how to post the show every day.

666
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Speaker 2: It would be right in our basements.

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Speaker 5: It would be TikTok. You guys would just move the

668
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Speaker 5: show to TikTok.

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Speaker 3: It's true, that's true.

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Speaker 2: What are you complaining about? Yeah, you still get still

671
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Speaker 2: get it?

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Speaker 1: So okay, this is actually a good transition to this

673
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Speaker 1: story that I've been following closely and actually that I

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Speaker 1: posted a TikTok about. Thank you Emily for that ability

675
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Speaker 1: to and I'm over ten thousand followers now, just big milestones.

676
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Speaker 1: I can apply for the TikTok Creators Fund. Very exciting stuff.

677
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: Cute helping me with that. But in any case, it

678
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Speaker 1: sure looks like Elon Musk is just like stealing this

679
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Speaker 1: two point four billion dollar contract that had been previously

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Speaker 1: awarded to Verizon over at the FAA for so he's

681
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Speaker 1: you know, his operatives there are taking it for Starlink.

682
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Speaker 1: And the way all of this went down is, you know,

683
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Speaker 1: you had that horrific crash. Elon had been putting pressure

684
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Speaker 1: on the fa administrator even before Trump was inaugurated. They've

685
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Speaker 1: been going forward with these cuts at the FAA. They

686
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Speaker 1: sent over some SpaceX engineers to look around and see

687
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Speaker 1: what's going on, see if they can make it safer,

688
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Speaker 1: et cetera. And those people just came in effectively and

689
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Speaker 1: were like, oh, this two point four billion dollar contract

690
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Speaker 1: we're going to give to Verizon, We're not doing that anymore.

691
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Speaker 3: Now we're giving it to Starlink again.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is illegal because there's a whole contract

693
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Speaker 1: process that has to play out. You have to have

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Speaker 1: competitive bids, which I think is something that everyone would

695
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Speaker 1: kind of intuitively understand that you don't want to just

696
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Speaker 1: give out contracts to whoever is favored status obviously the FAAAA.

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Speaker 1: You want to make sure things are done in like

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Speaker 1: the best possible way. I have no idea if Verizon is,

699
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Speaker 1: you know, doing a fantastic job and doing an amazing

700
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Speaker 1: job or whatever. But the fact of the richest man

701
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Speaker 1: on the planet sending his operatives in there and just

702
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: like taking this contract for himself one more very brazen

703
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Speaker 1: instance of the complete self dealing and corruption and conflicts

704
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Speaker 1: of interest just inherent in all of this. Not to mention,

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Speaker 1: you know, the FA was also investigating SpaceX for a

706
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Speaker 1: launch that went wrong where the rocket came apart. A

707
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Speaker 1: dozen commercial flights had to be diverted and so this

708
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Speaker 1: was a big deal. Something tells me that investigation is

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Speaker 1: not going to be going forward in the same way,

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Speaker 1: and there was some reportings suggests that you know that

711
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 1: investigation of spaces and others and other investigations of Tesla

712
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Speaker 1: were part of the motivating factor for Elon must to

713
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Speaker 1: get as involved in Trump's campaign and in Doge as

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Speaker 1: he ultimately has.

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Speaker 5: Well, can I just say, I was just gonna say quickly, Ryan, like,

716
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Speaker 5: we don't know.

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Speaker 7: This is one of the things that really bothers me,

718
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 7: And honestly it should bother Elon. Obviously it doesn't, but

719
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 7: it should because you'll never know. Like I actually think

720
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Speaker 7: some of his bids probably are extremely competitive, some of

721
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Speaker 7: his products are extremely compelling, some of what he does

722
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Speaker 7: is extremely compelling. But this actually is like the kind

723
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Speaker 7: of thing that we're never gonna know sometimes, like this one.

724
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Speaker 7: The reporting has been really good on it, but there

725
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Speaker 7: are going to be contracts awarded that we don't know

726
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Speaker 7: probably until like five years down the road, that there

727
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 7: was wheeling and dealing behind the scenes. And like, it

728
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Speaker 7: makes you less competitive when you just know you're going

729
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Speaker 7: to get the bid, It makes your products suck more

730
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Speaker 7: when you know that you can just rely on getting

731
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Speaker 7: the government contract because you're the one giving the government contracts.

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Speaker 7: It's actually not good for anybody. Like it's self dealing

733
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 7: of course, and like that's corrupt and gross. But in

734
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Speaker 7: this case, there's probably a good case to be made

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Speaker 7: that he really did have a more competitive, better bid,

736
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Speaker 7: But it doesn't that trajectory historically doesn't continue because when

737
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Speaker 7: it gets less competitive, if your product gets less good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because there was no competitive there was no bid,

739
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Speaker 1: there was just him taking the contract.

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Speaker 3: And the officials at.

741
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Speaker 1: The FAA actually have refused to sign off on it

742
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Speaker 1: under pressure. I don't know if they have yet or not,

743
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Speaker 1: so they're having to like elevate it to the Transportation

744
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: Secretary Sean Duffy, but they you know, this was this

745
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: contract was years in the making with Verizon. Apparently next

746
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Speaker 1: month was when they were supposed to sign off on

747
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Speaker 1: the final thing, and Elon tweeted something negative about this

748
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Speaker 1: Verizon situation. Then lo and behold his doge guys are

749
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Speaker 1: just like, yep, we're going to.

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Speaker 5: Take it right.

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00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 4: So, and what complicates is that a source of mine

752
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Speaker 4: who's involved in this area said that the company that

753
00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 4: was that's losing it, which is called L three Harris

754
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 4: using they were losing the bid to Verizon, like they

755
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 4: got in and started weaponizing the presence of SpaceX and

756
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 4: Elon Musk, and like they helped to kind of foment

757
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Speaker 4: this story.

758
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Speaker 2: Like that that's what That's what he was saying.

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Speaker 4: So it's like when you so, now you're going to

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Speaker 4: have two contractors, you know, fighting over a project, and

761
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Speaker 4: because Musk has these obvious conflicts of interest, the one

762
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Speaker 4: who loses is going to you know, throw Musk up

763
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 4: and be like, actually, look, Musk is trying to come

764
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Speaker 4: in and steal this thing because L three's goal is

765
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Speaker 4: to just reset the entire thing and go back to

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Speaker 4: the status quo of them having the contract. And so

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Speaker 4: that's another way, if there's any truth to that, Like,

768
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Speaker 4: that's another way that taxpayers and American citizens lose by

769
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Speaker 4: having a guy conflicted out the wazoo right in the

770
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Speaker 4: center of this and talking openly about how SpaceX is

771
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 4: great and should do you know, because it looks so bad.

772
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 4: Then then they go, oh, you know what, forget it,

773
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Speaker 4: Forget Verizon, forget SpaceX, just keep it how it is

774
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 4: with you know, And there's maybe there was reasons to

775
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Speaker 4: move away from L three, Like, I mean, they're not

776
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 4: that efficient and they're ripping off the government, but they

777
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 4: then got to play the corruption to their own corrupt advantage.

778
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Speaker 2: So it's just.

779
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Speaker 4: A giant mess and not how anybody should want a

780
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Speaker 4: government to run.

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00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 3: Correct.

782
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm also illegal, like a DOJ source pointing out

783
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 4: to me yesterday that there are criminal conflict of interest

784
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 4: statutes like if you if you take action as a

785
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 4: government employee and any government employee, including a special government

786
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Speaker 4: employee like Musk, for the benefit of your own personal

787
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Speaker 4: financial interests, there are actually criminal statutes involved. Obviously, nobody

788
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 4: in the DOJ is going to prosecute that now, but

789
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Speaker 4: it's not as if it just goes away immediately.

790
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Speaker 1: Right, And maybe must doesn't have to worry because he

791
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: can get a pardon.

792
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Speaker 3: From the government from Trump.

793
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Speaker 1: But true, you know, is every underling who's executing his orders?

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Speaker 3: Are they all going to to get a pardon?

795
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Speaker 1: Are they all gonna you know, are they going to

796
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Speaker 1: get thrown onto the bus at some point? Oh, I

797
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with it. It was you know,

798
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Speaker 1: big balls, it was really running.

799
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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 2: The thing is he doesn't know doubt about it with him.

801
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Speaker 7: The thing is that, like maybe there were people in

802
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 7: the White House who didn't know that Anita Dunn, for example,

803
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Speaker 7: had interests in TikTok or whatever she had her many

804
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 7: interests in. But with Elon Musk, he doesn't actually need

805
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 7: to give anybody direct orders because everybody knows Elon Musk favors.

806
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Speaker 5: Space Space Starling Tesla.

807
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Speaker 7: Yeah, like you don't have to have Elon Musk being

808
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Speaker 7: like go screw with Rivian. You know, it's like people

809
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Speaker 7: kind of know where he's coming from.

810
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Speaker 1: Yeah, which is also, by the way, something that has happened.

811
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Speaker 1: They did go and screw with some Rivian thing that

812
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Speaker 1: was happening in Georgia. So all right, so let's go

813
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: ahead and move on to the much anticipated Epstein portion

814
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Speaker 1: that we wanted to get Emily in on, in particular

815
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: because this has been become quite a quite a drama

816
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: over on the MAGA side of things. So they've been

817
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: teasing we're going to release the Ebstein files, etc. Now

818
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: I've been skeptical because Trump was buddies with Epstein for

819
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: a long time and shows up in the Epstein flight

820
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Speaker 1: logs and whatever.

821
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Speaker 3: So I was like, I don't think y'all are going

822
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 3: to get what you really want.

823
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Speaker 1: Not to mention, a bunch of Epstein stuff has already

824
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Speaker 1: been made public in the past.

825
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Speaker 3: So they hold this big photo op.

826
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Speaker 1: You can see, you know, a bunch of these like

827
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Speaker 1: right wing influencers here.

828
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Speaker 3: What that's is that d C.

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Speaker 7: Draino in THEO Tik top lips of TikTok, Mike Cernovic

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Speaker 7: and Liz Wheeler.

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Speaker 5: By the way, but.

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Speaker 2: For you tab.

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Speaker 1: So they've got these binders that says the Epstein Files

834
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Speaker 1: Phase one. They're so excited they're doing their you know,

835
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Speaker 1: their photo op outside of the White House. They start

836
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: going live and flipping through the binder to see what

837
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Speaker 1: they find, and lo and behold, not a whole hell

838
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: of a lot. So let me actually pull up this

839
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: video of flipping through the binder because it is it

840
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: is pretty funny. A lot of reactions and a lot

841
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: of just things that already were publicly available.

842
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 3: So you can see here.

843
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: The scrolling through, yeah, of the redactions, and apparently someone

844
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: was saying this is something that Gawker had previously published

845
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: but actually with fewer like it didn't have the redactions.

846
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: So this is information that's been available for a decade,

847
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: and just the way of doing it, to like inviting

848
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: in the most online people in the entire world, these

849
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: right wing influencers to do their little photo ops. It

850
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: didn't land well with a lot of people, Emily.

851
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Speaker 7: It didn't land well with people on the right. It

852
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 7: didn't land well with other conservative influencers, let alone like

853
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 7: genuine conservative journalists, who were furious that they have been

854
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 7: reporting out these stories with some degree of like seriousness.

855
00:42:58,920 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 5: For a long time.

856
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 7: And then there was you know, there's all kinds of

857
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Speaker 7: speculation about whether this was intentionally a photo op or

858
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 7: whether it was just the people waiting for Kere Starmer.

859
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 7: But you can see some of them are literally posing

860
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Speaker 7: with the binders. So turning it into like an influencer

861
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 7: circus was really offensive to.

862
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 5: Some people on the right. It were just.

863
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 7: Absolutely furious, And I mean, this is I share obviously

864
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 7: your's skepticism on this, Crystal. Maybe we'll get a little

865
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 7: bit more information on some of this, but I think

866
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 7: what's going on, and this is how it unfolded. Yesterday

867
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 7: they say that Pam Bondi and Cash Batel were being

868
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Speaker 7: undermined by the Southern District of New York, which was

869
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 7: supposed to hand over new Epstein records and at the

870
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Speaker 7: last minute did not. They were supposed to give Pam

871
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 7: Bondy and you know, Cash Batel more information that was

872
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 7: going to be released, and they didn't do it. So

873
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Speaker 7: what's interesting about COPE is that they didn't present it

874
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 7: to the influencers this way. If they knew, right, if

875
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 7: the dj knew that this is what was happening, that

876
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 7: they didn't have like really any bombshells, they didn't have

877
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 7: any good information whatever.

878
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 5: That is not how they presented it to the public.

879
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 7: They presented it like we are doing a public service,

880
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 7: thank you so much, you know Pam Bondi. We saw

881
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 7: some of them saying for releasing this, making sure we're

882
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 7: on top of this.

883
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 5: It was a cover your ass story.

884
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 7: I'm sure there's truth to the fact that the FBI

885
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 7: doesn't want to give all of these records, but it's

886
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 7: a cover your ass story to say after the fact.

887
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 7: After this lands like a lead balloon because you take

888
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 7: a story that's really serious to Maga and you can

889
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 7: hate Mega people as much as you want, but there's

890
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 7: genuine concern about about Epstein in MAGA world, and that

891
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 7: might sound silly given the Trump and Epstein friendship, but

892
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 7: that is real, Like people are genuinely they care about

893
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 7: the Epstein stuff, like sound of free them.

894
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 5: The story about child trafficking was.

895
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 7: Huge in in MAGA world and in the sort of

896
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 7: on the right. More broadly, it's a serious issue. So

897
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 7: after it lands like a lead balloon, then we start

898
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 7: seeing this cope from the DOJ saying you know that

899
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 7: it's being thwarted by the Southern District of New York

900
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 7: and all of this. My broad theory is that all

901
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 7: of this is to lay the groundwork and condition the

902
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 7: people in their camp to not expect much to write

903
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 7: like this is not that they're not they'll be able

904
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 7: to like continue blaming the deep state essentially.

905
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: Well, Trump had always, you know, he'd get asked about

906
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: this periodically. First of all, he got asked about what

907
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: you know, when Glene Maxwell was on trial or whatever,

908
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: like do you think about it?

909
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 3: Well, I wish her.

910
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: Well, He's gotten asked multiple times about releasing the Epstein files,

911
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: and he always demmersed, you know, it would be like

912
00:45:55,360 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: yes JFK, yes RFK, like yes UFO Epstein. Well, there

913
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: might be some personal details, there will have to be

914
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: careful change the subject.

915
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was his famous interview with Rachel Campo Stuffy

916
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 7: on Fox News where he did that.

917
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 3: Yes, that's exactly right. Yeah.

918
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: And to your point about the influencers and the way

919
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: that they approached this, they apparently all were on like

920
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: coordinated talking points.

921
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 3: Here here's DC Draino.

922
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: Today I met with President Trump, vpjd Vans, Pam Bomdy

923
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: Cash Hotel in the Oval Office. They handed me a

924
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: binder copy the Epstein files. This is the most transparent

925
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: administration in American history. The best part this is just

926
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: the start. A g Boni confirmed there are thousands more

927
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: Epstein file documents being secretly held. Blah blah blah. And

928
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: then oh look at this. Today I met with blah

929
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: blah blah. They handed me a binder copy the most

930
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: transparent administration in American history.

931
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 3: The best part this is just the start.

932
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, you couldn't even come up with your

933
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: own like lame tweet language to be willing useful idiots

934
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: in this photo stunt. That's that's pretty embarrassing.

935
00:46:58,560 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 3: Ryan.

936
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 4: And at first I was saying, thinking, I don't blame

937
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,919
Speaker 4: the White House for this, because the White House's job

938
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 4: is propaganda, and the propagandist's job is to make it

939
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 4: look not like propaganda. You gotta take the material and

940
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 4: you rephrase it. But I do blame the White House

941
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 4: because they wrote it in this like cute see the

942
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 4: best part, the best is yet to.

943
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 2: Come or whatever, which just begs for the propagandas to

944
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 2: just the best is yet and she's part in Greece.

945
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 4: She was right, So it just begs the propagandists to

946
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 4: just copy and paste it, and so they did and

947
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 4: so and then they got caught.

948
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,760
Speaker 5: Moron blames the DOJ.

949
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, basically this has been an absolute like I just

950
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 7: like from.

951
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 5: What I ha.

952
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 3: Its hair, let her cook.

953
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 5: Well.

954
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 7: So the House Judiciary Committee tweeted a Rick role about

955
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 7: the Epstein files yesterday, seeming like a literal Rick role,

956
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 7: seeming to be blaming or like making a joke about

957
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 7: the deep state thwarting the release efforts, and people were furious,

958
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 7: saying this is not funny, like there's nothing to be

959
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 7: joking about here.

960
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 5: And so all of this has been this is probably.

961
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 7: The earliest like real infighting that I have, Like there's

962
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 7: always small infighting, but what this did inside the administration

963
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 7: that you have so many different fingers pointing in so

964
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 7: many different directions, and people are furious because it destroyed,

965
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 7: you know, certain relationships with influencers that are.

966
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 5: Now really furious. It's it's been an.

967
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 7: Absolute dumpster fire of twenty four hours just because of

968
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 7: the stunt. And so this is a very early like

969
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 7: when books are written. This blow up, I think will

970
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 7: be a really consequential moment in the second administration just

971
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:01,919
Speaker 7: because of what it did to different relationships.

972
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Speaker 3: That is interesting.

973
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 4: You know, the guy was killed on Trump's watch, Like

974
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 4: Trump's not giving you this information.

975
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, a good point, just say, let me just

976
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: save you the suspense.

977
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 3: Good point. And this is Laura Lumer.

978
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: We reference to all the social media influences who were

979
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: at the White House. How come you are running cover

980
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: for pedophiles? Every single one of you is chosen to

981
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: not share the files with the public wire protecting pedophiles.

982
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 1: How come you haven't posted the screenshots of the documents?

983
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: The reason is because there wasn't Eventually, you know, they

984
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: did show like I showed you that video of them

985
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 1: flipping through. The reason they weren't sharing them was because

986
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: there wasn't much really there. But certainly they got you know,

987
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: used for this propaganda effort, and she continued to go

988
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: after them as many other people did as well. I mean, listen,

989
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: I can't help but notice, of course, the the buck

990
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: never stops with Trump, right, Yeah, it's the deep state,

991
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: It's Pam Bondi's fall as Cash Betel's fault, It's the

992
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: sdn Y, It's this is that it's never Donald Trump,

993
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: who Jeffrey Epstein claims was his best buddy for tech,

994
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: who was president, who was president when yeah, when I

995
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:07,720
Speaker 1: think died.

996
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 7: And I think all of this document dump promises that

997
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 7: you know, we're I think if if some of these

998
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 7: documents are dumped, it'll be wonderful. And it's great that

999
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 7: he's making the promises, but I think a lot of

1000
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 7: this is conditioning people to have their expectations lowered in

1001
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 7: a way that's helpful for the Trump administration. I actually

1002
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 7: reached out to the CIA over the last week asking

1003
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 7: about Section three of the JFK Release EO, which, like

1004
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 7: Jefferson Morley and other people have said, could allow the

1005
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 7: CIA director to just keep some records sealed. You know,

1006
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 7: like there are way like there are loopholes actually that

1007
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 7: could be potentially exploited, and the CIA gave me a

1008
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 7: complete non answer about how they're like cooperating and blah

1009
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 7: blah blah, just some.

1010
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 5: Very specific questions. So I think what we're.

1011
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 7: Going to see is some stuff is going to come out,

1012
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,280
Speaker 7: but it's definitely not going to be like a substantial

1013
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 7: It'll be substantial, I shouldn't say non substantial, but it

1014
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 7: won't be everything, and it probably won't even be that

1015
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 7: close to everything. And I think that there's a recognition

1016
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 7: of that, and people were trying to sort of lay

1017
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 7: the groundwork.

1018
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 4: So one other point on Epstein, and let me share

1019
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 4: something here. This is a tweet of mine from years

1020
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 4: ago that still gets shared every now and then. I

1021
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 4: think asking for the list and all that stuff is fine,

1022
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 4: but here is the thing that people really should want

1023
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 4: to know about. So this is July eighth, twenty nineteen.

1024
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: I just dug this up.

1025
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 4: So, according to the FBI, they found CDs in Jeffrey

1026
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 4: Epstein's safe that were labeled quote young than a name

1027
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 4: plus name. So they found all of these CDs with

1028
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 4: the name of a young person and presumably the name

1029
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 4: of somebody that Epstein cared enough to write their name

1030
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 4: on the CD they took you can you can read

1031
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 4: this file here. They took these out with them. This

1032
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 4: is this is what we need, right who whose names

1033
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 4: are in between these brackets?

1034
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 1: Well, and one one other thing that we need too

1035
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: is I mean, there are a lot of indications that

1036
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: he was basically working for Israeli intelligence, like oh yeah,

1037
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: and which is another reason to be skeptical that this administration.

1038
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 2: Would be maybe also US yeah.

1039
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 3: In releasing that sort of information.

1040
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: You know, So you think, you really think that the

1041
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: guy that Mary Maddison gave a hundred million dollars to

1042
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: is interested in like completely exposing what was going on here.

1043
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be pretty doubtful, pretty doubtful on that particular front.

1044
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: And then you know, this also ties in with this

1045
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: story about Andrew interest in Tate, who are accused of

1046
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 1: rape and sex trafficking very epstein stah, they had their own,

1047
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: their own alleged flavor to it, but you know, Epstein

1048
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 1: esque type behavior. And it looks like the Trump administration

1049
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 1: intervened to get them released and allowed to travel from

1050
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: the Romania they traveled to the US. Garnell was reportedly,

1051
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: you know, directly involved here. By the way, the White

1052
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: House denies this. Trump says, I don't even know what

1053
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 1: you're talking about. I'll let you make your own decisions

1054
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: about what happened here. Apparently, you know, Andrew had claimed

1055
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: that he was in touch with Baron. Baron is supposedly

1056
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: a fan, and Baron also involved in you know, some

1057
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,720
Speaker 1: of the like Manisphere outreach reportedly of the Trump campaign

1058
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: going on all the Browie podcast and Emily. There was

1059
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: you know, significant amount of pushback from the right on

1060
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: this as well. Again not directly against Trump, but uh,

1061
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: you know, this kind of this ties in with something

1062
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: like the backlash over the Ashley Saint Clair Elon Musk

1063
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: relationship and a lot of you know more sort of

1064
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: like traditional family conservative type conservatives saying like what the

1065
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 1: hell are we embracing here?

1066
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 3: Like, what is going on?

1067
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1068
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 7: Here, let me share this post. This is once again

1069
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,959
Speaker 7: Laura Lumer, but Candas Owens and others are on this too.

1070
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 7: After news broke this morning that the Trump admin helped

1071
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 7: the Tape Brothers live Romania and come back to the US. Today,

1072
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 7: Governor Rond De Santas said they're not welcome in Florida.

1073
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 7: The Tape Brothers are US citizens, good thing Ron isn't president.

1074
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 7: And Candace Owens has also been out saying, you know,

1075
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 7: the chargers against them, like if I think she criticized

1076
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 7: Megan Kelly and said something like if the charges against

1077
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 7: them are not if you look at the chargers, they're

1078
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 7: actually like all cooked up blah blah blah.

1079
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 5: Like they're not that serious.

1080
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 7: And Megan Kelly, Josh Holly and others have been like in,

1081
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 7: Ron de Santis is a good example. Ron de Santis

1082
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 7: actually leaning into this to me after the Byron Donalds

1083
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 7: dust up between Byron Donald's potentially getting into the governor's

1084
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 7: race with Trump's endorsement when Casey DeSantis won to get

1085
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 7: into the governor's race, Like looks to me like he

1086
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 7: is using the Tape Brothers actually as an interesting wedge

1087
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 7: issue understanding to the point you just made, Crystal that

1088
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 7: this could be to the extent that there's something that

1089
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 7: could be a crack in the Trump MAGA foundation that

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Speaker 7: like actually exploiting like something like this, like trafficking documents

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Speaker 7: not getting released. Like Rond de Santis could see that

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Speaker 7: as like his lane to outmaneuver Trump. I don't think

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Speaker 7: it'll work, but you can sort of see where they

1094
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Speaker 7: are maybe leaning into some of these issues. Now, I

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Speaker 7: don't think Josh Holly is going to lean into it.

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Speaker 7: But he condemned the decision. Yeah that's on the screen

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Speaker 7: right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, here's what he said. He said, I would hope

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Speaker 1: our government wasn't involved in any way. My view is

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Speaker 1: that charges against him are very serious. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Conservats should be glorifying this guy at all. I certainly

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Speaker 1: don't think we should be using any influence in our

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Speaker 1: government to try to get him out of what seemed

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Speaker 1: to be extremely serious charged in Romania. So I'd hope

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Speaker 1: that we weren't involved in any way. I mean, I listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm not an expert on this case. Is from what

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Speaker 1: I've seen of Andrew Tate's own words, there's quite a

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00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: lot of uh, you know, fire where there's smoke. But

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Speaker 1: even if you think the charges are bullshit, unfair and

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00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: it's you know, a witch hun or whatever, like, just

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00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: the things that he has himself acknowledged and admitted to

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Speaker 1: doesn't seem like the type of stuff that a traditional

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Speaker 1: conservative would want to embrace, celebrate, you know, have the

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Speaker 1: the president's administration go out on a limb to exert

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Speaker 1: diplomatic pressure to try to free.

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Speaker 3: These guys, like that's that is.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you went back to the pre Trump

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Speaker 1: era and you told me that any of this was happening,

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Speaker 1: I would think it was absolutely preposterously insane.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it was.

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Speaker 4: You know there's a there's a videos of him like

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00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 4: beating women with.

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Speaker 2: A stick, like that's that's out there the years.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's all sorts of even though he hasn't been convicted. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: to your point, it's not is there not the kind

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Speaker 4: of values that we were told the party represented.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he ran an MLM like scam university to separate

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Speaker 1: vulnerable young men from their cash, teaching him how to

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Speaker 1: run cam businesses like.

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Speaker 2: Canis Owens. Has she ever heard a ME two allegation?

1131
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Speaker 2: She's been like that she.

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Speaker 3: Didn't this one. I believe.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, I mean I say, also, it's sort of laughable.

1134
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Speaker 7: Their claim to only care about the case because it

1135
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Speaker 7: represents like a weaponization of government, I think is also

1136
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 7: very obviously a pretense, Like that's what they're claiming Josh

1137
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 7: Holly is concerned about, right, Like these chargers are just

1138
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 7: a pretense because they really don't like Andrew Tate, he's

1139
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 7: super anti establishment, wants to bring down.

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Speaker 5: The world order or whatever.

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Speaker 7: But that I think it's a pretense really with the

1142
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 7: people like Laura Lumer who actually are using the allegedly

1143
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 7: weaponized charges in order to really express solidarity with Andrew

1144
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 7: Tait overall, not just on the like charges. They see

1145
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,439
Speaker 7: him as extraordinarily popular, and his popularity with young men

1146
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 7: is really real, and I think it's real for reasons

1147
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 7: we could get into that are have to do with

1148
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 7: the failure of you know, the circultural establishment and all

1149
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 7: of that.

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Speaker 5: But but I think.

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Speaker 7: They realize these are coattails that they can ride to

1152
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 7: more popularity, and there's this kind of convenient excuse or

1153
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 7: this convenient pretense about weaponized charges. So I don't think

1154
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Speaker 7: they're being I think they're being cynical obviously as well.

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Speaker 1: On that front, Shapiro says America does not need more

1156
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: self proclaimed pimps and terror supporters with outstanding criminal allegations

1157
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: of sex trafficking and a history of pornographic distribution, plus

1158
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: a grift university that suckers young men out of thousands

1159
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Speaker 1: of dollars, Echoing some of what I was saying about

1160
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: his like MLM scam that he ran on all of

1161
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Speaker 1: these young men. I guess I sort of felt like

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00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: his popularity had like waned a bit. He's still like

1163
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: at the height of his power.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I.

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Speaker 7: Don't think at that high. I feel like he was

1166
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 7: really before this. I mean, I think this did actually

1167
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 7: genuinely hurt his reputation a bit, to the extent that

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Speaker 7: that's possible.

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Speaker 5: I don't think he's at the height of his power.

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Speaker 5: I think that's probably true.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which is I mean, that's also probably part of

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Speaker 1: why you see a DeSantis and Josh Holly and whoever

1173
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: feeling like they have the political bandwidth to say these

1174
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Speaker 1: types of things about him and be as explicit as

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Speaker 1: they've been.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think there was He's always like

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Speaker 7: had I remember when I was at the Federalists, we

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Speaker 7: would have a lot of debates, like just internally about

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Speaker 7: Andrew Tate, and it was mostly like the younger conservatives

1180
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Speaker 7: who would say, he's not a great guy, but he

1181
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 7: this is not just a Federalists, but like he's interesting

1182
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Speaker 7: and he's saying things other people won't, and kind of

1183
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 7: older conservatives were like, who cares, like he's doesn't bad

1184
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 7: like he's awful. He's clearly awful. There's no reason for

1185
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 7: people to be listening to him just because he's entertaining

1186
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 7: and says things that other people won't. You can do

1187
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 7: that without also being an awful person. And so there's

1188
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 7: always been this. He's actually created an interesting divide, but

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Speaker 7: it hasn't been fully teased out yet because he was

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Speaker 7: kind of off in Romania doing this thing. So maybe

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Speaker 7: this pushes, maybe this forces the issue more.

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Speaker 1: Ryan last thing to you, The other thing that both

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Speaker 1: the Epstein and the tape stories underscore is just how

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Speaker 1: insanely online this administration is.

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Speaker 3: Mm hm, like, yes, some of you.

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Speaker 1: I mean for my job, for our jobs, we have

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Speaker 1: to be insanely online, right. The amount of Twitter time

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Speaker 1: I spend in a day is grotesque and not helping.

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Speaker 1: These are some of these people were I have never

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01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: even heard of these people.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, how are you more online than I am?

1202
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 3: How is that possible?

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01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 5: Right?

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01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: And yet yeah, they're pulling these random influencers out of

1205
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 1: wherever they're coming from and inviting them to the White House.

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, holy shit, this is crazy. And I think,

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01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: you know, partly they feel like that approach of being

1208
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: super online paid off for them in the election. But

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Speaker 1: I also think there is a real danger here because

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01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: you know, if they're more online than I am, they're

1211
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 1: certainly more online and out of touch with like just

1212
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: normy Americans, then they should be It's.

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Speaker 7: Like Elizabeth Warren saying LATINX at the first twenty twenty debate,

1214
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 7: it's this the reverse of it.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, it feels like they're almost taunting Democrats. They're like, how,

1216
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 4: what's the most ridiculously unpopular thing we can do and

1217
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 4: still stay in power. They're like the Harlem glowtrotters playing

1218
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 4: and they think of the Democrats as the Washington Generals,

1219
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 4: like they can do the most flamboyantly like absurd stuff

1220
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 4: on the court and still win against the Washington general

1221
01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 4: slash Democrats, Like, yeah, we'll just gonna bring the sex

1222
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 4: trafficker and his brother.

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Speaker 2: And how do you like that? We're going to be

1224
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 2: about it.

1225
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 4: We're not going to like look the other way. We're

1226
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 4: going to like actively like do it and be like

1227
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Speaker 4: embrace it.

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01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, be like yeah we did that, we did that. Actually,

1229
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Speaker 1: the Epstein thing, I was thinking, like, Brian, if you

1230
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: and I had planned it as a way to like

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Speaker 1: subvert the Trump administration.

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Speaker 3: We could have done a better.

1233
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 4: Job, and they're still beating the Washington General blowing up.

1234
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 3: Their media ecosystem and whatever.

1235
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Speaker 1: And yes they are still the Washington Generals are still like,

1236
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 1: you know, putting up alyssa slot kind yeah, yeah, yeah,

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01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: that's their response to say the union. All right, guys, Well,

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Speaker 1: well on that note, we'll leave it there for today.

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Speaker 1: Ryan and Emily thank you guys. As always, guys, make

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01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 1: sure you check out Ryan's interview with Roe hit Chopra. Really,

1241
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: I mean, very newsy and very significant conversation help people

1242
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 1: to understand what was actually going on at the CFPB

1243
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 1: and why this agency was significant and I guess theoretically

1244
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 1: still could be sometime in the future, but certainly not now.

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Speaker 1: Have a great weekend and we will see you guys

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Speaker 1: back here next week.