Speaker 1: Thank you for You're coming back. Part two is underway.
Speaker 1: How hard is it to like if you're a kid star?
Speaker 2: Obviously a lot of kids start you want to transition,
Speaker 2: but sometimes people only see you as that, and it's
Speaker 2: so hard to get out of that role and people
Speaker 2: only see you as that.
Speaker 3: Right, right, right, Yeah, it's no joke.
Speaker 4: For me, I always felt a little scared that people
Speaker 4: wouldn't feel like I've been through anything, you know, because
Speaker 4: I do. Even sometimes in my own like extended family,
Speaker 4: there's this like, man, your family was.
Speaker 3: Da Da Da, and you lived here and you did
Speaker 3: the disneything.
Speaker 4: You ain't ever been through anything, So I would I
Speaker 4: would feel nervous that people wouldn't believe me when I
Speaker 4: told my stories, you know, or that I wasn't, you know,
Speaker 4: cool enough or been through enough to be able to
Speaker 4: say anything at all. But luckily my life did get
Speaker 4: real as I was making that transition, and I think
Speaker 4: I dealt a lot with real life things, colorism and
Speaker 4: rejection and losing money and being on your own, and
Speaker 4: all of those things are real. Wherever you're from, don't matter.
Speaker 4: Going through that is real, and so I did feel
Speaker 4: more validation in being able to say anything because I
Speaker 4: had been through it. I had and it was tough
Speaker 4: and scary, and I didn't know when it was going
Speaker 4: to end.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've heard this, but the Bernie
Speaker 2: Mac Show star Camille win Bush, she had to get
Speaker 2: on only fans because she said the residuals from the
Speaker 2: show it just wasn't enough to sustain moving forward as
Speaker 2: a kid as a former kid actor. I mean, is
Speaker 2: that something that you I mean, obviously you were able
Speaker 2: to transition and do other things. You can sing your
Speaker 2: full fledged, full fledged star now, But how difficult is
Speaker 2: it for a kid to transition when they don't have
Speaker 2: all of a sudden now they don't have that steady
Speaker 2: stream of income coming in as they transition into an adulthood.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the transition is no joke, I think, because things
Speaker 4: slow down and you're trying to figure out where you
Speaker 4: fit in, especially in a world where most of the
Speaker 4: opportunities are written for people who do not look like you,
Speaker 4: then things are significantly slower. I think for me, I
Speaker 4: was always gonna just start a new career, you know,
Speaker 4: and if I had to do that, and it would
Speaker 4: still be in the music category. But I don't know,
Speaker 4: like maybe more on the label side, maybe more on
Speaker 4: the artist development side, maybe on the vocal teaching side.
Speaker 4: Like to me, I still wanted to be in that world.
Speaker 4: If I had to transition and I wasn't going to
Speaker 4: be in front anymore, and maybe I wasn't going to
Speaker 4: be singing the songs, maybe I'd be writing them, but
Speaker 4: I would have to figure out how to live with
Speaker 4: that because I still get one life, so I can't
Speaker 4: live in despair the rest of my life. Yeah, that
Speaker 4: is crazy, And I do get that part about, you know,
Speaker 4: running out of money and not having residuals. You don't
Speaker 4: have any ownership when you're doing these roles and sometimes
Speaker 4: singing these songs. But I think for me, I was
Speaker 4: going to figure out another way and you would just
Speaker 4: have to start from grounds zero. But people start from
Speaker 4: ground zero all the time. It doesn't matter if you sixteen,
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter if you're thirty six.
Speaker 3: You know, people pivot and you just got to live
Speaker 3: your life and keep going.
Speaker 2: And a part of this what I'm about to ask,
Speaker 2: is you kind of touched on is like kind of
Speaker 2: the advice that you would give someone as a child
Speaker 2: that's trying to pivot and go to that next phase
Speaker 2: of their life.
Speaker 4: I would say, depending on how much you popped off,
Speaker 4: you might be you know, might be straight, you might
Speaker 4: be so figure out how to manage your money so
Speaker 4: that it can grow for itself. But I think what
Speaker 4: I wish I would have done was to go to
Speaker 4: college and go that route, you know, do it on
Speaker 4: your computer and balance and then get a job and
Speaker 4: still do what you like.
Speaker 3: And so you're funding your dream.
Speaker 4: And also if you want to be in this field,
Speaker 4: create your own opportunity, Like I think of Easter Ay
Speaker 4: and Insecure how she filed that in an office all
Speaker 4: a camcorder, you know, or making my own songs and
Speaker 4: putting them on the internet, writing songs online, you know.
Speaker 4: And there's so many different ways to get yourself out
Speaker 4: there that just don't.
Speaker 3: Run out of money while you're doing the work a job.
Speaker 3: Are you're doing it? You know what I'm saying, do
Speaker 3: your nine to five?
Speaker 4: What if the thing they say on TikTok and stuff
Speaker 4: like my five to nine before my nine to five
Speaker 4: for the girl is going to be on you know,
Speaker 4: fitness working out of is it hard?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 2: Like you're like I should be a star and then not, man,
Speaker 2: I don't be wanting to work because if I work,
Speaker 2: that means I'm not a star. But I think I'm
Speaker 2: a star, so therefore I shouldn't.
Speaker 1: Have to work. And then you get it, you get
Speaker 1: it twisted.
Speaker 4: Yes, that that is the most humbling part of that journey,
Speaker 4: when you when you get to that point where you're like, okay,
Speaker 4: I might have to, uh, well, at least for me,
Speaker 4: because I had felt like dang, I had done so
Speaker 4: much and I climbed so high and I was almost
Speaker 4: there and now what now They're gonna be.
Speaker 3: Like, aren't you that girl from Disney?
Speaker 1: What you doing here?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: So work?
Speaker 3: I was thinking.
Speaker 4: I was like, maybe I'll put a wig on and
Speaker 4: just have a mask, because I'd be like, I'm just
Speaker 4: a germophobe. Like I was really thinking that I didn't
Speaker 4: want my pride to be messed up. If somebody saw me, like,
Speaker 4: what would I say? I would lie, I would say
Speaker 4: I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Really, yes, you would say that's not you.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I do that now, Jones. I'd be like, no,
Speaker 3: I'm can keep on my Sorry.
Speaker 4: I'd be tired sometimes I'll be tired, but yeah, that
Speaker 4: pride really would have had to be humbled that.
Speaker 3: But the other choice to go home and I wasn't
Speaker 3: doing that.
Speaker 1: How tough is it?
Speaker 2: The handler rejection You don't get a part or things
Speaker 2: don't go your way. To stay positive because this is
Speaker 2: we can all pivot. But when you've invested so much time,
Speaker 2: so much energy, so much of your life has been
Speaker 2: invested in this, and then all of a sudden, you're like, damn,
Speaker 2: I might just have to do that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the rejection is, I mean, you have to grieve
Speaker 4: for what you thought was gonna happen, and when dreams die,
Speaker 4: you must mourn for them. But I felt like at
Speaker 4: least I could live with knowing that I tried it
Speaker 4: and I went to the wheels fill off.
Speaker 3: I would have to just chalk it up to that.
Speaker 3: You know, I would given it everything I.
Speaker 4: Had, and then, you know, I want to be happy,
Speaker 4: so I would figure out something else to do that.
Speaker 3: I talked to my mom every day when I was unemployed.
Speaker 3: Bill girl, what I was. She was taking all of
Speaker 3: this sadness.
Speaker 4: But one thing I love about my mom is that
Speaker 4: she she never ever made me feel like, yeah, girl,
Speaker 4: you can't do this anymore. Never was that said. It
Speaker 4: was always you can pivot and be in this world.
Speaker 4: You can teach, you could go go back to go
Speaker 4: back to school for music, learn an instrument, you could compose.
Speaker 3: It was it was never, no, I don't think you
Speaker 3: can do this anymore.
Speaker 4: You know, with all of my family, every one of them,
Speaker 4: you know, when somebody wouldn't pick up, I gotta go
Speaker 4: on somebody else. My mom, dad, my siblings, everybody saw
Speaker 4: that that tunnel of uncertainty. That was gears of my life,
Speaker 4: you know, and funding my own music videos and like
Speaker 4: now you running out of more money. But I wanted
Speaker 4: to make this song because I believe in this song.
Speaker 4: It's just it's just really really scary, really really scary.
Speaker 4: But I'm grateful for them because if not for them,
Speaker 4: I feel like I wouldn't have had enough, you know,
Speaker 4: strength to keep going.
Speaker 1: Your mom has always been your biggest supporter, hadn't she?
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's your that's your rock, that's your foundational piece.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, no matter what, no matter what, the
Speaker 2: good the first person you called, no matter what, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I went thirty million dollars in the lottery. Mom, guess
Speaker 2: what I know for real?
Speaker 3: Fip that my mama's smart as hey, I'm like, girl,
Speaker 3: we all up.
Speaker 4: But yeah, no, my mom is is definitely such a
Speaker 4: crucial piece that makes me who I am. And I think,
Speaker 4: just like, just like I said about the singing and
Speaker 4: that part, she wanted that so bad when she was raised,
Speaker 4: you know, to just feel like encouraged scene and support
Speaker 4: it and whatever she wanted to be. And so I
Speaker 4: think that is where she had to teach herself how
Speaker 4: to do that for us, right, you know, because like
Speaker 4: I said about my dads, like we don't know how
Speaker 4: to do these things if they weren't taught to us. Yeah,
Speaker 4: my mom has done a great job of working on
Speaker 4: herself and trying to be a more open and more
Speaker 4: less judgmental you know, because I love my mama, but
Speaker 4: she's very religious, very Christian, very you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So sometimes I'm like, girl, don't watch that video, listen
Speaker 4: to that, don't even listen to it. But yeah, she
Speaker 4: is definitely my safe place to land for sure.
Speaker 1: How much.
Speaker 2: Are you like your mom? I mean, do people say, girl,
Speaker 2: you definitely your mama child.
Speaker 4: Yes, I definitely get that. I'd begetting that. I sound
Speaker 4: like my mom. Of course I look like my mom.
Speaker 4: My siblings say I'm just like my mom.
Speaker 3: But I don't know.
Speaker 4: I feel like me and my mom are very similar
Speaker 4: when it comes to work ethic and how we treat people,
Speaker 4: and like what we want for ourselves great things and
Speaker 4: goals and whatnot like that. But yeah, me and my
Speaker 4: mom have different things. Like, like I said, my mom
Speaker 4: is very read religiously rigid. So there's certain things I
Speaker 4: know she's not even gonna want to hear that in
Speaker 4: the car one curse word, I got to turn it off, right,
Speaker 4: She's not trying to hear that, Like certain things I
Speaker 4: like shows or whatever, things like that.
Speaker 3: She'd be like, what is that right? You know she's
Speaker 3: done into that.
Speaker 1: You took an eight year hiatus.
Speaker 3: The hiatus took me.
Speaker 1: Oh that wasn't by choice.
Speaker 4: Hell no, would never ever do that. Yes, I'm literally
Speaker 4: deciding to be pregnant or something.
Speaker 2: Okay, we talked about that little later. But let me
Speaker 2: ask you this. So eight years, that's a long time.
Speaker 2: That's a long time. Yeah, Okay, one year go by it.
Speaker 2: Oh this thing go happen. Oh this thing about the
Speaker 2: ju party.
Speaker 3: And I was like, we in the club we're checking shots.
Speaker 3: What's a shot? Another one?
Speaker 1: Two years?
Speaker 4: Two years, We're still cute, and I'm sneaking into the club.
Speaker 4: I'm only eighteen. I'm in there now. I'm like with
Speaker 4: the like artists and celebrities, I'm like, whoa, I'm at
Speaker 4: they out. But I'm also like I deserve to be.
Speaker 4: But I'm also like, okay, cool, cool, cool. Three years,
Speaker 4: this guys to get a little less funny.
Speaker 3: Okay, a little chuckle you're for. I'm concerned.
Speaker 4: I'm concerned, and I'm doing things that nobody's watching, nobody
Speaker 4: cares so embarrassing, like you, I'm singing these covers on
Speaker 4: social media and like, my engagement is so low, and
Speaker 4: I remember it when it was so high. And I'm
Speaker 4: doing movies where the budget was like forty cents and
Speaker 4: it was and hopefully nobody watches. I mean, and it's okay,
Speaker 4: you know, it's part of my story, so they you know,
Speaker 4: if you watch it, you watch it.
Speaker 1: That's great.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm doing these things that just weren't weren't
Speaker 4: wasn't catching, they weren't catching, and they weren't what I wanted.
Speaker 4: They weren't what I thought I could have. You know,
Speaker 4: and so I'm just like confused, very confused. And then
Speaker 4: I'm like also learning about love and learning about relationships,
Speaker 4: and nobody taught me these things. Honestly, I really was
Speaker 4: in this bubble of music. This is what I want,
Speaker 4: this is all that focused on. I didn't even I
Speaker 4: didn't even date until literally I was eighteen.
Speaker 2: That's what I was about to ask you. So you
Speaker 2: come out to LA and you move out to LA
Speaker 2: in seventeen. That's to be very interesting that you moved
Speaker 2: to LA on your own. I wonder what your parents
Speaker 2: were thinking, like, Oh, no, what to La? Why you
Speaker 2: got to move so far away?
Speaker 4: Nah, that wasn't what they thought at all because I
Speaker 4: had been coming back and forth for LA since I
Speaker 4: was nine, So they we all knew and associated LA
Speaker 4: with where you go to work in that field, you know.
Speaker 4: So it's kind of just like that's what we know,
Speaker 4: we know you're gonna do that, But of course it's
Speaker 4: it's very very hard. And I think I think my mom.
Speaker 4: I think my mom and dad were kind of in
Speaker 4: this this. I don't know, maybe there was a little
Speaker 4: naive to think to think what was gonna happen, But
Speaker 4: I but we all needed to be a little bit naive,
Speaker 4: you know, I didn't. I didn't want to live in
Speaker 4: any possible negative reality. To me, I was like, once
Speaker 4: I go there, it's up. That's what I thought, and
Speaker 4: I think that's what I had to think. That delusion
Speaker 4: kind of helped me to keep going.
Speaker 1: So, yes, five, six, seven, and eight, why didn't you
Speaker 1: give up?
Speaker 4: Why didn't I? Because I still had a little money
Speaker 4: in that because that rent check was I'm still clearing,
Speaker 4: and because I wanted it so bad. Man, I wanted
Speaker 4: it so bad, and until I had to leave. I
Speaker 4: wasn't going to leave until I had to. I mean,
Speaker 4: I literally downgraded where I lived. I had roommates again,
Speaker 4: I like didn't have them, and then I had them,
Speaker 4: and then I didn't and then I got them again,
Speaker 4: and then.
Speaker 1: You know how y'all women are y'all.
Speaker 4: Well, actually it's very very interesting. It's still roommates.
Speaker 1: Did your mom know this?
Speaker 4: No, it wasn't all guys. First of all, it was
Speaker 4: two girls and two guys. I'm one of the girls. Yeah,
Speaker 4: So we had this big place and everybody had like
Speaker 4: a room, and and you know how I said, I
Speaker 4: didn't want people to know, like what I did. They
Speaker 4: were all white, respectful, respectful. They didn't know me, they
Speaker 4: didn't know me at all.
Speaker 3: But then I.
Speaker 4: Started to pop off again, like during the pandemic, and
Speaker 4: like my clips were go viral, so they'd be like
Speaker 4: is that you, And I'd be like, mm yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: But I left shortly after that. But yeah, So I
Speaker 4: just kept prolonging it. With what I'm saying, I was doing.
Speaker 4: I was doing whatever I needed to do to stay.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 4: I also was just in a cloud of what's going on.
Speaker 4: I'm confused. I'm trying to numb this, but I'm not leaving.
Speaker 4: It was really crazy times. I was in a crazy relationship,
Speaker 4: and I was just like prolonging the inevitable is what
Speaker 4: I was thinking in my mind.
Speaker 2: They say when we're at our lowest is when we
Speaker 2: find out the most about ourselves. What did Coco find
Speaker 2: out about herself.
Speaker 1: During this period that.
Speaker 3: Money doesn't eco happiness?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, So I was in this relationship that basically
Speaker 4: it was kind of like a manipulation situation, like, oh,
Speaker 4: you want your music video.
Speaker 3: To do this? Oh okay, well da da da da
Speaker 3: Oh okay, So what are we like?
Speaker 4: What are we you know, Okay, y'all, I'll pay for that.
Speaker 4: You know, it was kind of like it was kind
Speaker 4: of like me on a string because.
Speaker 1: I it was a Twig Poe quote, you do things
Speaker 1: for me, I do things for you.
Speaker 4: It's something very similar to that. And I was like,
Speaker 4: you know what, maybe this is what Maybe this is
Speaker 4: life like, maybe this is the type of relationship that
Speaker 4: you know whatever. You know, you have money and you
Speaker 4: don't have happiness whatever, and I just it just crashed
Speaker 4: so bad that I was like, I would rather be
Speaker 4: broke than ever need anybody to do anything ever for me.
Speaker 3: Again, I'm out. I'm out.
Speaker 4: And I had to like literally uncut myself because there
Speaker 4: were so many strings in me tied to that person
Speaker 4: that I didn't even know were there, that I didn't
Speaker 4: even know where was. It was.
Speaker 3: It was just crazy.
Speaker 1: But when you're like, how did how did you?
Speaker 2: How did you cut the cord because you kind of
Speaker 2: kind of needed it, I know, bro.
Speaker 3: It was so it was so hard at the time.
Speaker 1: Didn't say you'll be.
Speaker 4: Back, nah, he didn't say nothing like that. He was like, well, well,
Speaker 4: your music video is not gonna be funded. Good luck
Speaker 4: with that. I'm about to call them, right now and
Speaker 4: tell them I'm not paying for that what And I
Speaker 4: was like, okay, okay. It was like everything kind of
Speaker 4: had to crumble. And it was so embarrassing at the
Speaker 4: time because like the producers I had worked with on
Speaker 4: this one song, they were like helping me film the
Speaker 4: video and then they were like, why did you just
Speaker 4: call us and say something about that? And I'm like, oh, okay,
Speaker 4: here's the truth, you know. And I was just telling
Speaker 4: them what was what I was doing, what I was
Speaker 4: in and kind of like where my life was at
Speaker 4: at that time. And so yeah, it was super humbling
Speaker 4: at the time, but that's what I learned. I was like,
Speaker 4: even if I ever get this money again, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: never never equate it with happiness, with a healthy relationship,
Speaker 4: with a healthy mind. Hell no, if I don't have
Speaker 4: it in myself, I don't need the money.
Speaker 2: How did you find yourself again? How did you pull
Speaker 2: yourself out.
Speaker 3: Of that therapy?
Speaker 4: At the time, So the one good thing about that
Speaker 4: relationship was that he used this therapist and I would
Speaker 4: hear they were what they were talking about, and I'm
Speaker 4: like what, And then I was like, who do you
Speaker 4: let tell you about yourself? I want to talk to her.
Speaker 4: And I remember I had my first therapy session and
Speaker 4: I was breaking down crying because I had never been
Speaker 4: asked some of the questions that she asked me. And
Speaker 4: from there, I was like, Okay, I'm kind of in
Speaker 4: this trap situation, but I'm about to tell you everything.
Speaker 4: I don't know why I just told her everything. I
Speaker 4: felt like she couldn't tell anyone else.
Speaker 3: I mean no, literally, and I googled that. I was like,
Speaker 3: you can lose a license. I'm gonna trust you, girl,
Speaker 3: what it's also the law.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I just told her everything, and slowly, by slowly,
Speaker 4: I was rebuilt because I was such such a low state.
Speaker 4: I felt so powerless, I felt so stuck. I felt
Speaker 4: like I was in these chains and I couldn't leave
Speaker 4: because I wanted this music stuff so bad and I
Speaker 4: was just going to do what it took, you know,
Speaker 4: and my freaking rent and ugh, it was just so bad.
Speaker 3: It was so bad. I was so unhappy.
Speaker 4: But yet she helped me rebuild myself and also just
Speaker 4: to shed these these limiting beliefs. This is what I
Speaker 4: gotta do. Like I I would say, this is what
Speaker 4: I gotta do. You think I want to do this,
Speaker 4: you think I want to sing that, You think I
Speaker 4: want to do that? And so she'd be.
Speaker 3: Like, but why, says who? And I literally couldn't answer.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, rebuilding slowly.
Speaker 2: When you saw the viral tweet asking what happened to
Speaker 2: Coco Jones, how did it make you feel?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: I'm right here?
Speaker 3: It was so embarrassed.
Speaker 4: I was so embarrassed at that time that I feel
Speaker 4: like I just kept getting hit hit with hit with embarrassments.
Speaker 4: And I remember that that it made me really upset.
Speaker 4: I called my mom and I was like, this is
Speaker 4: what they're saying about me. I cannot believe this is
Speaker 4: what the world thinks about me. I'm a has been
Speaker 4: I'm not even freaking twenty something.
Speaker 3: How now now? And I remember my mom.
Speaker 4: Said, what do you got to lose? Like literally, you're unemployed.
Speaker 4: So she was like, just tell them what happened. My
Speaker 4: mom not knowing how social media works at all. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Like it's not my homegirl down the street, this is
Speaker 4: the internet, she says, We'll tell them, tell the Internet.
Speaker 4: And I ended up that was my first time ever
Speaker 4: saying anything that didn't have to do with music that
Speaker 4: wasn't polished that wasn't you know.
Speaker 1: Because you would lie. I would lie and what I
Speaker 1: said you wouldn't lie.
Speaker 3: Oh I thought you said you would lie.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, you wouldn't lie. No, no, you didn't pre record.
Speaker 2: It's like so it's almost like it's kind of hard.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 4: And I was so scared because I was like, ooh,
Speaker 4: I don't want to be black bombed. I don't know
Speaker 4: how this works. To tell the truth, I had never
Speaker 4: done anything like that. I was just like, if it
Speaker 4: ain't cute, you don't say right. So but honestly, so
Speaker 4: much came from that. So much of because you know
Speaker 4: what's crazy. My homegirls would be like, you need to
Speaker 4: tell you need to talk more, like your personality is
Speaker 4: so sometimes right, and I'd be like, girl, anybody's trying
Speaker 4: to hear me, dogs, I just need to sing. So
Speaker 4: it was just so validating and it opened a lot
Speaker 4: of doors. The sound that I had in the video
Speaker 4: went viral on TikTok and then I was like, what's TikTok?
Speaker 4: And then I started doing shit on TikTok and then
Speaker 4: that popped off too.
Speaker 2: Whether the situation that you felt free after that because
Speaker 2: you mentioned about these change you mentioned about these strings
Speaker 2: you're rich about like being in bondage, and it felt
Speaker 2: like it seemed like to me and I'm just outside
Speaker 2: looking in. I'm not the therapist, but once you did that,
Speaker 2: you felt like you were free.
Speaker 4: I think what really made me free was what my
Speaker 4: therapist had said to me this one time. I was
Speaker 4: telling her what I can and can't do as a
Speaker 4: dark skin black girl, and I'm like, they don't let
Speaker 4: you do that, Like you can't do that, or like, nah,
Speaker 4: that's just not that's not realistic for me. And she
Speaker 4: was like, is this really the world you're going to
Speaker 4: live in? Like this world where you have all these
Speaker 4: limitations you didn't choose, Like is this really what you're
Speaker 4: gonna do? Because like why wouldn't you just create your
Speaker 4: own world? Like who said that? What rule is that?
Speaker 4: Where is that written? And it made me be like
Speaker 4: I literally don't know. I really only act the way
Speaker 4: the world has taught me I should and shouldn't act.
Speaker 4: And that to me was kind of that shift that
Speaker 4: made me I would think, made my life change. And
Speaker 4: then of course telling that video and then that video
Speaker 4: and seeing people like my personality, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 4: so this is during the pandemic. I'm like, maybe they
Speaker 4: don't want me to sing anymore. Okay, I'll tell stories.
Speaker 4: So I started telling these stories on the internet. I
Speaker 4: was like, I would have just pressed record, and afterwards
Speaker 4: I'd be like, what am I doing? I just told
Speaker 4: stories on the internet. But it was working at the time.
Speaker 4: My engagement was back up. Then I'd throw a little
Speaker 4: song in there, and then the TikTok thing happened, and
Speaker 4: I started doing the covers on TikTok that were like that,
Speaker 4: if I was on this song, do my version of that.
Speaker 3: And slowly it just pivoted.
Speaker 4: And then I got acting management who would saw the
Speaker 4: video and they were like, we want to work with you.
Speaker 4: And I was like, okay, I haven't had an acting
Speaker 4: job in like a year and a half, but sure.
Speaker 4: He was like, I just like your personality, and yeah,
Speaker 4: it just.
Speaker 1: Y'all pay the acting mission.
Speaker 2: That's what I thought. You would have masked. Y'all pay
Speaker 2: for this gig. Okay, y'all, it doesn't.
Speaker 3: Work like that. They can commission. They're not paying for nothing. Dude, Oh,
Speaker 3: I think let me find out on tripping.
Speaker 1: But let mask you this.
Speaker 2: Why do you think TV executives believe that darkest complexed
Speaker 2: women aren't marketable.
Speaker 4: Aren't well. I think it's changing now. I don't think
Speaker 4: that is exactly the truth. I think you just have
Speaker 4: to show people that things work. But honestly, truly, I
Speaker 4: think our community has done a poor job at times
Speaker 4: of supporting our own work. And so if we're looking
Speaker 4: at just the numbers, if I'm an executive and I'm
Speaker 4: unbiased because I don't care, I.
Speaker 1: Just want the money, Yeah, I see green.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just.
Speaker 4: Looking at the green, like which way are you going?
Speaker 4: Where the people show up or where the people be
Speaker 4: Like eighteen dollars for a ticket? Cur you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So I do think as a community, we
Speaker 4: had to do a better We have to do a
Speaker 4: better job of supporting our own stuff. But I also
Speaker 4: feel like it's a matter of not knowing, not knowing
Speaker 4: what it's like over there. You know, you're in this
Speaker 4: position and you're this exec You don't know what that's
Speaker 4: like until you get somebody like a Shonda Rhimes or
Speaker 4: Issa Ray who's like, this is what it's like.
Speaker 3: Let me show you the script.
Speaker 4: It's really good and it's funny, and you're like, oh,
Speaker 4: what a different way of life, you know, and and
Speaker 4: kind of introducing people to the world of being black
Speaker 4: in different facets. I don't think it's necessarily that they
Speaker 4: don't think that that we're marketable. I think they don't
Speaker 4: think of us until somebody forces that into their heads,
Speaker 4: you know, and until we as a community force that
Speaker 4: that money, that revenue into our own world, you know.
Speaker 4: But I definitely think it's getting better from when I
Speaker 4: was a kid, Yes to me now watching these shows
Speaker 4: and so many different platforms, Ulu, Appletude, you know, AES,
Speaker 4: so there's so many more opportunities. It's just the best
Speaker 4: show wins at this point. Honestly, it's whatever can grab attention.
Speaker 4: Attention is currency now, it's not this look, and it's
Speaker 4: whoever can grab attention.
Speaker 2: Why do you feel you haven't come or do you
Speaker 2: feel the need to succumb to societal pressures and change anything?
Speaker 2: Plastic surgery, BBL, bigger.
Speaker 4: Have I felt that? No, I wouldn't say that I
Speaker 4: felt like that. I honestly, if anything, when I was younger,
Speaker 4: wanted to be like shorter, but I felt like all
Speaker 4: the guys, I mean, like, I'm not talking that young
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago, right, I felt like all
Speaker 4: the guy actors were shorter than me, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 4: they're not gonna choose me because I'm taller than him.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: That was the one of the only things I could
Speaker 4: think that I really wanted to change about myself. But
Speaker 4: for the most part, now, I come from an athletic family.
Speaker 4: So whatever you want to see in your in your body,
Speaker 4: that's like I was taught go working, go do it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and that's kind of that's what I like, working out
Speaker 4: and feeling strong.
Speaker 3: That's what I like on my body.
Speaker 2: So no, uh, CISLa recently came out and said she
Speaker 2: regretted getting a BBL. Have you talked to anybody in
Speaker 2: the industry that have regretted any cattle because I think
Speaker 2: that now the thing in the TV industry or the
Speaker 2: Hollywood movie industry is like this old this weight loss drugs,
Speaker 2: the a zipic, zeppetide and mclue tide that things like that.
Speaker 2: Have you talked to anyone that regret like whatever you do,
Speaker 2: don't do this.
Speaker 4: No, the girls that I talk to, they be like, girl,
Speaker 4: do I look good? I don't know about nothing, but
Speaker 4: that's eating right. Up.
Speaker 3: I'm like, let me feel that.
Speaker 4: No, I will say, though, I do feel like I
Speaker 4: have had some girls who do like the quick trying
Speaker 4: to lose weight. Yeah, all of like maybe you gotta
Speaker 4: shoot coming up and you trying to do something. But
Speaker 4: that is the only thing where I feel like it's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I just poisoned myself for no reason. But yeah, no,
Speaker 4: none of the girls that I really regret that. I
Speaker 4: think you gotta be careful though, because everything's a trend.
Speaker 4: So it's here today, gone tomorrow, but they be looking good.
Speaker 2: At Janet Jackson reposted one of your videos Scissa hit
Speaker 2: you up after?
Speaker 1: I mean, what did that Janet Jackson?
Speaker 2: Now, obviously Janet was Beyonce before Beyonce and so for
Speaker 2: and so on, and she was she was the it
Speaker 2: and for her to repost it or just have Scissa
Speaker 2: you know job, I mean, what how does that make
Speaker 2: Coco Field? How did that make Coco Field? And no,
Speaker 2: Janet Jackson reposted of your video.
Speaker 4: I think it's very rewarding, you know, because for such
Speaker 4: a long time nobody cared. So to have people care,
Speaker 4: first of all, is a blessing and crucial to success.
Speaker 4: Right then to also have you know, people you look
Speaker 4: up to and respect in your field to commend what
Speaker 4: you're doing is it's kind of like this sigh of relief, like, oh,
Speaker 4: maybe I am doing something really good. If they think that,
Speaker 4: then then maybe I am doing something really good. But honestly,
Speaker 4: I think for me, I feel like it's it's always
Speaker 4: been me who's got to be proud of what I'm doing. Okay,
Speaker 4: even when I even when nobody cared and it was embarrassing,
Speaker 4: I still knew.
Speaker 3: I hate that.
Speaker 4: I hate that, and I'm like, I don't know what's
Speaker 4: not what's not clicking for y'all?
Speaker 3: Right, but damn something over here?
Speaker 1: Uh do you believe you got the roller? Hailey?
Speaker 2: But Hillary? Hillary? So how was that audition? Tell me
Speaker 2: about that audition?
Speaker 4: So that was around the time where I had just
Speaker 4: started getting rerelevant in the world in any capacity, and
Speaker 4: I had this fan base now that was like, we
Speaker 4: support you. We didn't know you were going through this,
Speaker 4: We support you.
Speaker 3: I don't know your care. Thank you.
Speaker 4: So I get this acting management and they're like, we
Speaker 4: just like your personality, we want to work with you.
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, I haven't been a boy in
Speaker 4: a year and a half, but that okay. And so
Speaker 4: around that time, they were like, there's this audition, there's
Speaker 4: this opportunity going around the show bel air, and we
Speaker 4: think you should audition for Hillary. And I was like, y'all,
Speaker 4: what do I look like trying to audition for this
Speaker 4: light skined girl.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I was like, I telled you guys, been.
Speaker 4: A year and a half since I've had a job,
Speaker 4: and y'all gonna make me do this, like you know,
Speaker 4: and I was like, what if I read for Ashley?
Speaker 4: They were like Ashley's twelve in this get your on
Speaker 4: tape for Hillary, and so it was.
Speaker 3: I was very reluctant.
Speaker 4: And this was still when I was working on myself
Speaker 4: until my mental was not really good, and so I
Speaker 4: was basically expecting rejection. So I kind of did it
Speaker 4: in this I don't really care I'm doing this and
Speaker 4: I don't really care, but it kind of worked, you know.
Speaker 4: So I ended up getting on the phone with the
Speaker 4: director right after my audition, which I thought was just
Speaker 4: okay because in the back of my mind I wasn't
Speaker 4: really there. I was like, let's get this along so
Speaker 4: you can tell me no, we can move on. Thanks,
Speaker 4: and he kind of talks about how he had looked
Speaker 4: me up and how he knew me and how he
Speaker 4: wanted me to just really be myself. And I had
Speaker 4: never had anyone with any position of power tell me
Speaker 4: to do that, and so I was like, Okay, great,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do this next audition, and now I'm really excited.
Speaker 4: Now my heart's in it. You know, you normally you
Speaker 4: keep your guard up. And then he was like, actually,
Speaker 4: we're just gonna call you. We'll tell you whether or
Speaker 4: not you got it. So they were basing it off
Speaker 4: my first audition where I didn't really expect anything, and
Speaker 4: I was expecting rejection and I was like, oh, well,
Speaker 4: I'm not going to get this, okay, But they ended
Speaker 4: up calling me and telling me that I did get
Speaker 4: the role, and I was so so happy because I
Speaker 4: needed that money.
Speaker 1: Was about to be doing Gia huh man what.
Speaker 3: I was like, I'll sign anything.
Speaker 4: No, but it didn't work out, work out and we're
Speaker 4: on we're about to film our fourth and final season.
Speaker 4: So it's a blessing to think that was four years
Speaker 4: ago where I was like, hell, yes.
Speaker 2: Did you think think about this? You said you went
Speaker 2: in there and you're like, hey, I'm just gonna read.
Speaker 2: I don't care if I get it or not. As
Speaker 2: opposed to the other roles that you were actually trying
Speaker 2: to get. Do you feel like you relaxed and you
Speaker 2: allowed the best Coco to come out?
Speaker 4: No, No, I am my best when I am prepared,
Speaker 4: when I do my research, when I'm ready, then I
Speaker 4: can just get out of my head and just execute.
Speaker 1: But you said you like, I.
Speaker 2: Don't thought would you want to do this other role?
Speaker 2: But the other role was too young, and then you're like,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna do this and this like.
Speaker 3: I don't know. It was truly just my time.
Speaker 4: It was truly just my time because when I look
Speaker 4: back at it, I could see with the vision, but
Speaker 4: I can see myself and I know what I was
Speaker 4: thinking in my own head. So I'm like, I don't
Speaker 4: believe her. But people who don't know what's in my head,
Speaker 4: they could get it, you know. Yeah, But no, I'm
Speaker 4: my best prepared. When I practiced, when I rehearsed it,
Speaker 4: then I can just go eat it up.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: What's some of the best advice you've received since you've
Speaker 2: been in the industry. What's some of the best advice
Speaker 2: who's given you some of the best advice that you're like, Okay,
Speaker 2: this has really helped me.
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 4: Sisa had said something because I remember I had done
Speaker 4: this cover of Love Glory and this was years ago,
Speaker 4: and she had hit me about it, or maybe it
Speaker 4: was hit different.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: She had hit me about it because you know a
Speaker 4: lot of her fans were sending it to her. And
Speaker 4: I asked her, how did you get there? And she
Speaker 4: kind of said, like, be delusional in a way, like
Speaker 4: and honestly, truly, I do feel like you have to
Speaker 4: be a little bit delusional because you're trying to do
Speaker 4: something that nobody has done, especially the people around you,
Speaker 4: the people closer to you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So you have to like be delusional. And unless you
Speaker 4: have that support in somebody who believes in the vision.
Speaker 3: With you, you on your own with it. It's you on God.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think that actually has helped me so
Speaker 4: much to walk in rooms with my I had held
Speaker 4: high to seeing certain things, to try different, you know,
Speaker 4: things creatively, is like delusion?
Speaker 1: Is there a scene that you won't do? Is there
Speaker 1: anything that you won't do?
Speaker 2: I don't know about you know, intimacy on screen or
Speaker 2: being naked on screen, is there something that cochld like, Nah,
Speaker 2: that isin't your girl.
Speaker 3: Ah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like honestly, truly a lot of the
Speaker 4: intimacy scenes are super choreography. They're five six, seven, eight,
Speaker 4: one two three four, do it again, and you just
Speaker 4: get into this little habit.
Speaker 1: To me, it's like mob watching.
Speaker 4: Uh my mama, no, not to be learned. The hardware
Speaker 4: she got to protect herself. But I think for me,
Speaker 4: I don't want it to ever lean to porn by
Speaker 4: you know, like if it's a tasteful moment, like I
Speaker 4: always say the Notebook, that was obviously them having sex,
Speaker 4: but it was so tasteful and the storyline was so good,
Speaker 4: and I was just like, I respect this.
Speaker 1: You know what you got out of that tasteful?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: What did you get out of it? Was tasteful?
Speaker 3: You don't even know what I'm talking about. When you
Speaker 3: come back to the gear. He built that packing house
Speaker 3: for her, He built that house.
Speaker 2: Nah.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think that would have to be the
Speaker 4: world that's in it, because sometimes I'm like, what now,
Speaker 4: why is this scene here? I'm reading the script and
Speaker 4: I'm like, what does this have to do with anything.
Speaker 4: Did this make me like the characters more at all?
Speaker 4: Or are they just wanting some views because I'm not
Speaker 4: doing it that bro, it would have to be tasteful.
Speaker 1: Have you ever turned down the road because it made
Speaker 1: you feel uncomfortable?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I have turned down roads where I didn't want to
Speaker 4: be depicted in that light, you know. And sometimes most
Speaker 4: of them, like if you get an audition and it's
Speaker 4: something crazy, they say that at the beginning, before you
Speaker 4: even read for it will require nudity, will require this,
Speaker 4: da dah da da da, and you.
Speaker 1: Ain't get new it on camera.
Speaker 3: Uh, it depends, it depends.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to do like okay, So I feel
Speaker 4: like if it's like a silhouette and you can see
Speaker 4: that it's obviously in my body, but I don't want
Speaker 4: it to give like.
Speaker 3: You don't want to look at bco Jones boobs. You
Speaker 3: don't get that correct? You know what I'm saying. You're
Speaker 3: getting that cropped out. That's not my vibe, that's not
Speaker 3: my boby.
Speaker 2: Uh are you going to play to your man? I
Speaker 2: love all you do. I did I saw it. I
Speaker 2: did you.
Speaker 3: Watch it with your kids or something?
Speaker 1: I was by myself.
Speaker 2: I know I used to go to a lot of
Speaker 2: animated and I know people looking around like and they
Speaker 2: probably thinking if I wasn't who I was, they probably
Speaker 2: think I would have purved, because I mean there with
Speaker 2: everybody parents and with their keys.
Speaker 6: You a little side, I bet you know, whatever your
Speaker 6: passions are, your passion, I would definitely pass with my
Speaker 6: large and blessings guide him on his way. But you
Speaker 6: know what, I love animation too.
Speaker 4: Yes, I think they're so cute and the way they
Speaker 4: like they like emote is so cool to me. I
Speaker 4: do love animation. It's one of my favorite like types
Speaker 4: of movie. But yes, people ask me, am I gonna
Speaker 4: play Princess Sanna.
Speaker 3: And y'all come on, I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 3: what's in the cards.
Speaker 4: Like even if I was sitting right now knowing that
Speaker 4: I just filmed it, I wouldn't be able to say
Speaker 4: that those non disclosures be tight like my therapey.
Speaker 3: So no, I don't know. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I
Speaker 3: wouldn't be opposed, of course.
Speaker 4: I think it would be like an honor to one
Speaker 4: day have like a film like that. And my daughter
Speaker 4: watched me as a princess.
Speaker 3: He'll be amazing.
Speaker 4: But I don't know. I don't know how that's working.
Speaker 4: I don't know what they got going on over there,
Speaker 4: but they know where to go to find me. They
Speaker 4: got my number and my mom and number.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. I'll see you in a
Speaker 2: new movie. Country Wayne, Loretta Devine, Tabitha Brown, Miss Pat Yeah,
Speaker 2: I had Miss Pat.
Speaker 3: Have I seen some of them clips?
Speaker 2: Lloyd have Mercy? I had Tabitha also. Country Wayne has
Speaker 2: also been on.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, I saw Country Wayne's too.
Speaker 4: Actually when I was on set, that's when I watched
Speaker 4: it because he was telling me a story.
Speaker 3: I was like what and yeah, I wouldn't watch this
Speaker 3: episode with you.
Speaker 1: What what? What are they like?
Speaker 4: On?
Speaker 1: Said? What was that set?
Speaker 3: Like? They're all different personalities.
Speaker 4: Loretta is like this respectful legend, tasteful Country Wayne. You know,
Speaker 4: he is that that swag, that that voice, and he's
Speaker 4: super chill.
Speaker 3: But he's a very hard worker, very hard worker.
Speaker 4: Miss Pat is you know, she's hilarious.
Speaker 3: She's a little bit so funny.
Speaker 4: But I think we all did a really good job
Speaker 4: of like making it feel very authentic and you know,
Speaker 4: adding our two cents and things.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's kind of one of those movies.
Speaker 4: Where like you hope that it could have that black
Speaker 4: culture stamp effect, you know, so everybody was contributing in
Speaker 4: their different ways too, you know, hopefully get that outcome.
Speaker 2: Have you ever had a mistaken identity?
Speaker 1: Look like, are you Gabrielle Jennifer Hudson.
Speaker 4: Absolutely yes, Gabrielle Union Jennifer Hudson, do you say yes?
Speaker 3: It depends on how It depends on how I'm feeling
Speaker 3: that day.
Speaker 4: But sometimes, more than likely, I'll do this thing where
Speaker 4: I'm like, people be like, oh my god, you look
Speaker 4: like Jones, and I'll be like, who is that? Because
Speaker 4: I want to see what they say, and nobody said
Speaker 4: anything bad. Yeah, so that's good.
Speaker 3: But then I'll tell them yeah I am, but yeah, of.
Speaker 1: Course you got a new song.
Speaker 3: Yeah taste? Can you hear?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah? How could that go? Oh?
Speaker 4: I got my phone right here? Yeah, I'm like, let
Speaker 4: me see, I thought you want to be playing? Okay,
Speaker 4: so yeah, so Chase, I'm really excited. It's you know,
Speaker 4: of course me with my r V vocals. But then
Speaker 4: I'm also sampling Britney Spears Toxic and it's really dope.
Speaker 4: So you want me to sing some of it. Look,
Speaker 4: I'm like, should I sing the Britney part? A?
Speaker 3: Taste kiss me and places I'm chasing? I can't race it.
Speaker 3: Taste me, boy, you don't taste you.
Speaker 4: That's a way I feel, And I'm slipping under and
Speaker 4: then it goes into the time. I'm all right, it's
Speaker 4: really dope. I'm excited. Man, Oh it's out now. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I gotta pretend to this out out.
Speaker 2: You said you was in a toxic relationship the guy.
Speaker 2: He was controlling that. Yeah, okay, you do Hey, you
Speaker 2: don't do this like.
Speaker 1: That video? I don't know rip hey looking good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I did have my little phase of that. I did
Speaker 4: have my little face of that. I think it's kind
Speaker 4: of something you have to go through to, you know,
Speaker 4: character develop and learn what you do and don't like.
Speaker 3: But I mean, he wasn't the only toxic one. I
Speaker 3: will say that. I was also talking to my ways.
Speaker 4: I had my waist. I was I feel like everybody was.
Speaker 4: And so you get healed and they're like, I just
Speaker 4: want to love authentically.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I have my fair share of moments. What is this?
Speaker 1: What is this? Uh uh? This rumor that was going
Speaker 1: on about you and Donovan Mitchell.
Speaker 3: What what rumor?
Speaker 1: I mean, y'all showed up at a car.
Speaker 2: I mean you said it was nothing, but it's I
Speaker 2: think it's odd holding hands dressed and dressed alike. I'm
Speaker 2: just it could have been innocent, yo, But normally most
Speaker 2: people don't show up at.
Speaker 1: The concert holding hands.
Speaker 3: Dressed up, dressed alike. That's hilarious. You know what.
Speaker 4: I love the Internet because they definitely clocked my tea.
Speaker 4: I love that, you know, it's a little spies everywhere.
Speaker 4: I like a detective movie. But you know what, I'm happy,
Speaker 4: and I will say my music is the outlet that
Speaker 4: I used to tell most of my my stories and
Speaker 4: my truth and and some things. I keep your bodys
Speaker 4: out because this is my life too. But yeah, I
Speaker 4: say some things that you can hear in my album.
Speaker 1: You can ask you this dating.
Speaker 2: Are you a public I mean, obviously you a public figure,
Speaker 2: but are you private?
Speaker 1: Because a lot of times, because a lot of times.
Speaker 2: You know you, they date, they're public figure, then they date,
Speaker 2: they do everything publicly. But do you like having privacy?
Speaker 2: Do you like having some anonymity, like some secrecy? To Coco, I.
Speaker 4: Think secrecy is not what I prefer. I don't want
Speaker 4: to ever feel like I have to be somebody's secret.
Speaker 3: I won't.
Speaker 4: I don't want to make anybody feel like their mind.
Speaker 4: I think for me, I'm trying to protect myself, right,
Speaker 4: and I'm trying to protect you know, my family and
Speaker 4: whoever I love, and so yeah, I am more private.
Speaker 3: Also, I just feel like I give so much.
Speaker 4: I work so hard and I will always do my
Speaker 4: part on the business side, on the coco side, on
Speaker 4: the singing side, on the acting side. So why do
Speaker 4: I also have to give y'all, you know, something that
Speaker 4: is sacred to me? When I give so much on
Speaker 4: that side, you know, I just feel like it has
Speaker 4: to be balanced otherwise it's not fair.
Speaker 3: Then when is it? When what do I get from me?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: How the dating a celebrity? Could you a celebrity? Obviously?
Speaker 2: If you date somebody, could you I'll ask you this
Speaker 2: before we get to that part. Could you date someone
Speaker 2: that's not a celebrity?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I think for me, I don't really like the
Speaker 4: celebrity lifestyle myself, so to be with somebody that was
Speaker 4: more normal would never have been, you know, like an
Speaker 4: issue to me has never been like an issue to me.
Speaker 4: I think for me, what's always been important is okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: you do your big one there, I do my big
Speaker 4: one there whatever, field, public, not public, whatever. But I
Speaker 4: want to feel seen and heard as Courtney. I don't
Speaker 4: want to feel like there's any other motive to being
Speaker 4: with me if I walk away from.
Speaker 3: All of that. Are you cool with that?
Speaker 4: You know? I don't want to feel like I have
Speaker 4: to be on because I have one job, and so
Speaker 4: I want to feel seen and understood, and I want
Speaker 4: to feel like, you know, I'm with somebody else who's
Speaker 4: normal as well, and we just happen to do whatever
Speaker 4: for our fields are. So that's always been what's important
Speaker 4: to me, not whether you're relevant or not.
Speaker 1: What's the best place to take Coco on the first date?
Speaker 4: The best place to take me on a first date.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be asking a lot of questions, so quiet.
Speaker 1: What can't be the movies cause.
Speaker 3: You would never want to say it by stranger?
Speaker 2: Okay, uh, dinner, I would take dinner.
Speaker 4: I think it would be dinner because one I do
Speaker 4: like me a good food and a good meal and
Speaker 4: a good last one.
Speaker 3: Okay, but also it's it's quiet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nice, quiet, dimly lived.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love candles.
Speaker 2: I like a good So it's like more one on
Speaker 2: one everybody and in your business like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, for sure, for sure, I definitely like to
Speaker 4: be secluded and to Also, I don't want.
Speaker 3: It to be like a group thing. I will see
Speaker 3: who you are.
Speaker 1: So one, what are you? No double date?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: What for a first date? Uh?
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to deal with that because then also
Speaker 4: if I bring my homegirl and she didn't somebody, Now
Speaker 4: I gotta hear him to clock his teeth, and it's
Speaker 4: too much going on.
Speaker 3: I can't be inspected, gain what focus on?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: The maskw this fifty fifty? Where are you on the
Speaker 2: fifty fifty relationship? It's always interesting to hear we had
Speaker 2: Cheryl and Cheryl like man at the head of the house.
Speaker 2: I don't care who I am, I don't care what
Speaker 2: I make. He's the head of the house. Bread winner,
Speaker 2: No bread winner man, head of the house. It's interesting
Speaker 2: to hear women younger this. I guess y'all millennials, maybe
Speaker 2: y'all gen z whatever, y'all, but where are you on this?
Speaker 3: So my opinion to me is that I feel like women.
Speaker 4: Have it harder hormonally, I mean, in the world in
Speaker 4: all the ways, and so a man will never feel
Speaker 4: internally what I feel. You know, they're just living their
Speaker 4: life like it's calling love that for you. So to me,
Speaker 4: I feel like it could never really be equal because
Speaker 4: we both ain't going through the same challenges.
Speaker 3: Take the job out of it, you know. Yeah, So
Speaker 3: for me, I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think there would have to be some compensation on
Speaker 4: both things. I also feel like who's taking care of
Speaker 4: the house if everybody's going to work, Like, what are
Speaker 4: the choices? I feel like it may not be completely
Speaker 4: equal when it comes to the finances wherever that ying
Speaker 4: and yang needs to come in, Like I don't want
Speaker 4: to feel like I have to work and clean and
Speaker 4: cook and be hot and want to be sexy, Like
Speaker 4: come on now, Like what's going on?
Speaker 3: That's just not fair.
Speaker 4: Maybe in a numbers way, we're splitting things, but I'm
Speaker 4: going through a lot on the side, So I feel
Speaker 4: like there needs to be some compensation.
Speaker 3: In that way.
Speaker 1: You okay with the man being the head of the house.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do feel like that is my tea because
Speaker 4: I do come from like a very southern and very traditional,
Speaker 4: and that's what I saw, And I think for me,
Speaker 4: I don't want to.
Speaker 3: I don't want to have to do that.
Speaker 4: There's too many on this side in my own career,
Speaker 4: there's too many questions, too many decisions, too much brain
Speaker 4: hower going to that that I don't want to also
Speaker 4: have to do that for a family. No, thanks, no thanks,
Speaker 4: that that's on you, sir, that's on you.
Speaker 1: Limit. Have you ever.
Speaker 2: Introduced one of your boyfriends to your dad?
Speaker 3: Not? Not? No, no?
Speaker 5: Not?
Speaker 3: What is what am I saying? Corney? Uh?
Speaker 4: Not commonly and not often, only as I have gotten older,
Speaker 4: and like it's only it hasn't been a lot, right,
Speaker 4: could not.
Speaker 3: That for be?
Speaker 2: Do they when you said, well, I want you to
Speaker 2: I want you to meet my dad, do they get
Speaker 2: nervous because I'm pretty sure they probably googled your dad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say it's a thing of nervous because I'm
Speaker 4: probably picking somebody who has a lot of confidence in
Speaker 4: themselves because I have a lot of confidence in myself too.
Speaker 1: So speak huh he thinks he thinks he chose you,
Speaker 1: but you chose him?
Speaker 3: What one when? But yeah? So no, I don't think
Speaker 3: that they would get scared or anything.
Speaker 4: And also, I feel like I feel like my my
Speaker 4: choices hold enough respect that if my family happens to
Speaker 4: meet anybody I'm dating, they're probably like, whoa what, who
Speaker 4: are you?
Speaker 3: You gotta be good? I just don't. I just don't
Speaker 3: bring anybody around because it's just not that serious to me.
Speaker 1: We'll wrap up on this new album out What do
Speaker 1: you want to Yes?
Speaker 4: Okay, So Taste my single is out, my video I'm
Speaker 4: super excited, and my debut album it's called Why Not More,
Speaker 4: and it comes out on April twenty fifth.
Speaker 3: I'm so exciting.
Speaker 2: Taste is the song the album Why Not More? Miss
Speaker 2: Coco jokes, thank you, say thank you, thank you.
Speaker 5: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, Hustle Price,
Speaker 5: want to slice all my life, grinding all my life,
Speaker 5: all my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, Hustle Price,
Speaker 5: one side Dot the boll Dies.
Speaker 3: Just work all my life.
Speaker 5: I've got it all my life, assass