WEBVTT - LAMDC: The Coldest Winter Ever 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:03.680 I didn't say I was gonna show receipts, and trust me, 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:07.360 I had been asked never let me tell you, because 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:07.840 I knew that. 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:09.039 Would be a major question. 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:13.960 What I had done to basically rain on the fact 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:15.480 that I was a liar about my receipts. 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:17.360 I was not a liar. I just said it wasn't 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:18.279 about showing them. 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:21.000 I had clipped a copy of the receipts that I 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:22.279 had up under my train. 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:29.640 Stay tuned look into my conversation with Winter Williams right 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:41.640 after these quick asks. Welcome to Reality with the King. 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:46.639 It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:50.800 one of the most sought after executive producers in reality 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:56.480 television with over ten years of production experience. Twice a 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:59.560 week on Reality with the King, we'll sit down with 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:05.800 my across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows, 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:10.000 and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking and 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:17.480 tweeting about. Today's guest from Reality with the King is 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:22.280 a star Honey from Love and Marriage DC. This woman 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:27.520 I knew instantly she was a star the first moment 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:32.240 I met her. Yes, guys, I'm talking about a storm, 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:35.680 Honey that has been brewing for the past. 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:39.200 Couple of months. Miss Winter Williams. 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:42.800 On today's show, Winter and I get into so much tea. 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:46.520 We talk about how she was not supposed to be 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:50.360 on the show at all, and how Melody hoped getting 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:54.760 sick allowed Winter to tape a scene and the rest 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:58.640 is history. In addition to that, we also talk about 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:03.320 how Winter has been called the Danielle styub of Love 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:04.480 and Marriage DC. 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:07.400 So if you are Real Housewives of New. 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:11.079 Jersey fan, you know that Danielle came in on an 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:15.160 island on her own and she set things on fire. 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:19.440 So it's Winter the villain of Love and Marriage DC. 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:25.320 And if so, does she take credit for the success 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:26.120 of the season? 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:29.000 Boy? Oh boy? We get into. 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:34.000 Many, many, many things, including her current friendship with Monique 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:39.239 Samuels without further ADO, let's get into this conversation. 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:44.400 So, Winter, do you know who Danielle Style is? 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:45.040 I do. 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:48.200 Wasn't she on Real Housewives of What New Jersey or 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:51.320 New York New Jersey, New Jersey? That's what I thought. 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:54.679 So I worked on the first two seasons and Danielle 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:57.520 Style made it on my Top ten Greatest Housewives of 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:00.120 All Time list. So when people say you are the 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:02.400 Danielle Styb A Love and Marriage DC. 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:03.959 What does that mean for you? 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:06.560 I think it's a compliment because she's iconic. But when 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:09.200 you hear that, yeah, do you also take that as 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:09.799 a compliment. 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:12.840 I do, because she's almost like the moment that wasn't 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:13.520 expected to be. 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:15.040 A moment Winter Are you the moment? 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:17.680 I am the moment. I'm the season of the moment. 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:22.120 You know, I'm Winter year round apparently. So Hey, there are. 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.519 Some legends in reality TV, and I don't really watch 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:25.920 it all that much. I haven't watched it in a year, 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:28.560 to be perfectly honest. But you know, it's not a dig. 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:30.720 It's unlike, you know, some of the things I said 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.000 during the season that you know, we're certainly digs. That's 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:35.240 not a dig. That's a compliment, So I'll take it. 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:38.800 So, before we get into this amazing Season A Love 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:43.000 and Marriage, DC, I want my listeners to get to 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:48.920 know more about you Winter the woman. So obviously what 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:51.720 we saw the show was, you know, you in the 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:55.760 process of divorcing your now ex husband. Other than that, 0:03:56.160 --> 0:04:00.000 let's get into who you are just as a woman 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:01.920 before you came on reality television. 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:04.960 So life for Winter before I came on Reality TV, 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:08.240 was really pretty much centered around being an entrepreneur, full 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:09.120 time student. 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:12.320 I'm in doctoral school, and being a full time mom. 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:14.760 I mean, I have four kids, so that's a full 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:18.719 time job within itself, and really just building this platform 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:22.440 for supporting women. Being transparent and honest and authentic about 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:24.880 my story. I know that could be off putting for 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:27.880 some people, but I've just learned that you're better off 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:31.719 owning it, and so I've become comfortable with owning my 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:34.440 story and so I share, I speak. I've been a 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.120 public speaker for almost a decade now, and I'm a 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:38.640 page you know, public speaker. 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:42.520 So I'm really really okay. 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:44.200 With the things I've had to walk through, the lessons 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:46.400 I've had to learn, and I find that that has 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:49.600 been really the draw for growing the platform that a 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:52.720 lot of people see today that honestly was intact before 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:54.880 I came on the show. This show has just helped, 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:58.000 you know, expand my audience and my reach, but certainly 0:04:58.000 --> 0:04:59.320 it was there before I came here. 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:01.800 So that's when as a woman, I'm fun, y'all. I 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:04.240 love to have fun. I love to laugh, I love 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:05.159 to have a good time. 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:08.520 I think it is shocked Monique to heck that I 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:10.599 have turned out to be as spicy as I am. 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:13.200 And that really kind of speaks to kind of you 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:15.279 said the off and on, but it's not really off 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:18.320 and on. It's more so maybe the lack of depth 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:20.839 that people notice throughout the season that we've had in 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:23.560 the friendship. But if it was there now, she might 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:24.120 not have brought. 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:25.760 Me on the show. I'm gonna be honest. 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:28.200 She might have on y'all can be coming at Winter like, 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:30.280 because this girl pop off if y'all catch on the 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:33.800 right day, like I think her maybe assuming that I 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:36.839 was this sweet little church girl and oh we pray 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:40.520 and that's great. I love Jesus too, but uh try 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:44.040 Jesus not me. That's really my motto. 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:50.200 Winter. How did you get cast to be on Love 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:50.880 and Marriage DC? 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:53.680 That's a great question I get asked a lot. So 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.080 I initially went through the cast and process with my 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:59.200 ex husband and we didn't finish because of everything that 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:01.680 went down, and was like, oh no, no, we can't 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:02.800 uh uh take us out. 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:03.240 Good? 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:05.000 We got so much mess going on. Girlfriend, let me 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:06.320 figure out what's going on over here. 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:10.800 Okay, So you guys moved forward with casting while I 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:13.039 was trying to figure life out, and so once I 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:16.240 saw the initial cast, I actually message money congratulated her. 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:18.279 I'm happy for you guys. I'll be watching. 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:18.599 It. 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:19.880 Just so happened that when you. 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:22.440 Guys begin filming, she reached out and said, Hey, I 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.919 need a speaker. Are you open to doing the scene? 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.040 And I was like, you know, sure, And so I 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.080 always liked to say that because she had to at 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:32.240 least experience me to recommend me and know what I 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.880 was capable of, and so it was at least enough 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:36.919 depth in our friendship there to say, you know what, 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.080 let's throw Winter in the mix. And so I appreciate 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.840 her for that, and that's really how I got at it. 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:45.120 I just was supposed to do one scene, y'all, one scene. 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:47.800 Andy'll about my business, and I was happy with that. 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:49.800 I was not here to try to get on the show. 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:51.680 I was good at my little scene. And so when 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:53.360 I got pulled aside and said, hey, will you come 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:55.280 in a few days of film again, I had no 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:58.240 idea you would be there, Carlos, Like literally I was shocked, 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:00.920 Like I honestly was like, wait, wait a minute. 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:02.920 Say who knows a minute. 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:06.320 Okay, So that's how I got at it. It wasn't 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:08.320 in the plan, It wasn't in the cards. I've never 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:11.880 auditioned for reality TV before. I've always had aspirations to 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:13.720 be in media, but more so, you know, I thought, 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:15.880 I don't know, talk show things of that nature, but 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:16.880 not reality TV. 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:18.200 Who who want me? 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:23.560 When we decided to do Love and Marriage DC, Monique 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.960 and Chris obviously were a couple that we wanted to 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:29.000 anchor the show, right. 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.520 Yes, Because Monique had a. 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:34.720 Different experience on her other show, I wanted to make 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:37.680 sure that she was at least responsible for introducing me 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:40.960 to who the the other couples would be. 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.760 So she submitted I want to say, like seven couples. 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:45.960 And we looked at. 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:50.040 Winter's tape with Kevin, and it was a tape that 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:54.560 was very interesting because I don't know if you remember 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:57.920 this Winter, but went to talked about how his penis 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:00.720 was big girlfriend and how he was good at this 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:04.760 child and he will buy her all these gifts, and 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:07.760 for me, I was like, Wow, it's still gonna be 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:08.480 nice to have. 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:10.800 A couple who really is in love with each other. 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:15.240 Like they came across as like in the honeymoon. 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:19.200 Phase Winter Girl, you were googly I and I was like, 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:22.760 this would be great. You and Kevin were on the 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:26.520 top list amongst the other couples, and then we learned 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:30.520 that Kevin was going through this situation and we were like, well, girl, 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:34.120 we can't start a franchise with a couple who's going 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:35.400 through a divorce. 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:36.000 That's weird. 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.680 So we decided to move forward with other couples. Obviously, 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:40.360 but and I don't know if you ever knew this, 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:42.800 we were thinking about do we have three couples or 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.960 four couples, And if we would have four couples, we 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:47.680 were going to make you and Kevin a part of 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:48.319 that collective. 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:51.000 Oh wow, So listen, I will never take that man's 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:51.560 side away. 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:53.800 That ain't me. I will never do that, you know, 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:55.000 I'm real about it. 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:57.120 I feel like you need to give honor for honors due, 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.120 and so I will never take that man size away. 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:01.200 It was other issue that came into play that kind 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:03.199 of sunk the ship. You know, people make it seem like, oh, 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:05.120 she's a gold digger, Like, let's be clear, winner. 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:07.000 Had her own before. So that was not the issue. 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:08.680 I can ride if I need to ride. 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.920 It was the things that compounded and made it difficult 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:14.679 to overcome, which was just finding out a lot of deceit. 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:16.920 This is how we get to the demidse of the divorce. 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:17.720 But I didn't know. 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:20.800 That we were in that top. But yeah, I mean 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:23.880 I went into the marriage earnestly. I really really did. 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.320 And I think that's that's important for people to understand. 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:28.720 This was not a joke for me. I was very serious. 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:30.120 If I was going to give them a chance, I 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:32.600 was gonna give them an ernest chance. It's just that, 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:35.240 you know, you can't move forward in something where you 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:37.520 honestly don't know the person that you're going to bed with, 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:40.400 and so you know, lies and deceit just kind of 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:43.480 changed the whole dynamics. So that's pretty that's pretty cool. 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:45.120 I mean, I won't take anything away from it. 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:47.480 I ain't gonna lie. I never hear me lie about it. 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:48.880 I don't lie about people penises. 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:54.320 So the thing about that scene you brought up where 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:58.479 the world was introduced to you in the first episode, 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:02.560 the first scene Monique kind of pop up event and 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:04.040 you were a guest speaker. 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:07.160 What the world doesn't know is Melody. 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:10.600 Holt was supposed to be a speaker at that pop 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:13.800 up event, and the reason why Melody could not show 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:15.280 up is because she was sick. 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:17.000 She had the flu. But the show must go on. 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:20.440 We asked Monique to postpone the event. 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:23.640 Can we push it back a few days because I 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.400 was like, well, it will be fun to have Melody 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:29.520 in the first episode as a way to sort of 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:34.520 like pass the torch to Monique. Long story short, Monique 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:37.760 said Carlos, I spent money on this. It's not gonna happen, 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:40.720 so she said, but I'll invite somebody to do it, 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.640 and I believe you'll make it work. And you came 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:46.320 into the scene as the guest speaker. And this is 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:48.160 what I mean, guys when I say you have to 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:51.400 let the reality gods do it work. Because if Melody 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:55.120 Holt would have shown up for that scene, no shade, 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:56.480 you guys would have never met Winter. 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:59.480 Now true story, I didn't know who the guest speaker was. 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:01.240 I don't know what she told me or not. Let 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:02.960 me let me not say that. I'm not sure you 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:04.640 told me or not. But I do know someone else 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:06.240 was supposed to do it, and I was the feeling. 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:07.360 So that's true. 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:09.560 Like I wouldn't. I would not be here if it 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:11.000 had not been for her not showing up. 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:15.000 Thank you, Melody, No, may may, may your. 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:17.640 Absence be restored unto you one hundredfold? 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:23.760 Is that the minister's side of you? Winter it is? Well, 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:27.360 let's get it to the messy side of you, honey. Yeah, 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:28.160 the minister and. 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:30.599 The mess Lord help the saints is going to be 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:32.480 upset about this, but it's all good. 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:34.280 But the sinners won't. South. 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:39.760 Do you accept when people say you are the villain 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:41.120 of love and Marriage? 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:41.480 DC? 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:45.680 Hell no, I'm sorry. I sure don't. Sorry. That's an 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:49.320 exclusive these people and drove me to cuss God, dang it. No, 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:51.720 I have a twin in this role. I will not 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:55.400 take so responsibility for the villain. Absolutely not. I have 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:55.839 a twin. 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:59.280 Who's the twin, Ashley? 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:02.520 So you would say that you actually shared the duty 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:05.240 as the villains of love and Marriage DC? 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:10.199 Absolutely, fraternal twins, but we twins. Absolutely. I will owe 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:13.280 my part, Carlos. But now I got I had help. 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:18.840 What we saw this season was you navigating through this 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:24.359 social group of Monique's friends. It appears that Monique has 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:28.440 made it very clear that in the fifteen years, y'all 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:31.680 were friends that you two weren't close. She said on 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:35.280 the reunion that she will always check in with you. 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:36.880 You will never check in with her. 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:39.400 I wouldn't say that it's never. I would say she's 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:42.440 definitely more prevalent. And I feel like this is where 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:44.400 I would love for her now to have a separate 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:47.280 conversation because this is a type of conversation we really 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.760 need to have, woman a woman like what were you anticipating? 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:53.559 What were you expecting? Because if the situation has always 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:56.120 kind of been general surface and yeah, we have the 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:58.920 sisterhood and the connect then I would be interested to 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:01.280 know was there ever the desire for there to be more, 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:04.320 because again, a lot of it is how I deal, 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:06.800 you know, just be having a busy life, having a 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:09.600 busy schedule. If there was a desire to go deeper 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:12.400 and that was expressed, then it would definitely cause me 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:13.240 to move differently. 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:17.559 But understanding where we both lead busy lives, I can't 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:18.360 really accept that. 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:20.880 And I don't know that she's ever expressed that she 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.880 would love for there to be more. And I'll take 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:27.240 the l on not being the primary one to reach out, 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:28.359 but I have reached. 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:29.040 Out, so I don't. 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:30.959 I don't think it's fair to paint the narrative that 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:32.000 I've never reached out. 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:32.920 That's just not true. 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:37.320 But I will definitely give her the badge and reaching 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:39.559 out more and definitely more surface. 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:41.840 You know, I reached out to her when everything. 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.880 Went down with you know, my last situation, So I 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:48.440 just you know, she has her view, I have my view. 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:50.439 I don't think either one of us are wrong. Perception 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:51.200 is everything. 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.600 A lot of people have said that Monique has distance 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:58.760 herself from you. Do you feel like Monique has this 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:02.400 in herself you because she wants to be friends with 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:03.240 the other couples. 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:06.480 I won't say that the reasoning is for being friends 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:08.320 with other couple, I can't. I can't speak for her 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:09.439 in that aspect. 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.920 But for me being the friend, I do feel like 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:16.360 there's been a side chosen and it's clearly not my side. 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:17.680 That's how I feel. 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:19.720 You know, you have to kind of process that, right 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:23.320 because even though we were not close coming into this situation, 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:27.400 she was the closest I had, and so surface or not, 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:29.960 there were things that I shared with her that I 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:32.480 certainly wouldn't just share with a stranger, and I certainly 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:36.360 just wouldn't share, you know, haphazardly, like she has receipts, receipts, 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:38.920 like things that I shared on the show were things 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:40.960 I was comfortable with. But there's another side that I 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.360 will talk to her about that I wouldn't necessarily talk 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.320 with the others about openly. And so, yeah, I think 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:49.120 I had to process that, but I will own my 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:51.200 part in it because I feel like one of the 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:53.960 things I've learned about myself coming out of this situation 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:56.720 with you know, the demise of my marriage and even 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:59.880 with Monique, like in our friendship, I've learned that sometimes 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:03.400 I personally have a tendency to inflate myself in the 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:05.760 eyes of people that I may feel are closer to me, 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:08.160 and it's not always mutual. And I don't really fault 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:10.880 her for that. I fought myself and I'm learning to 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:15.560 be more cognizant and pay attention, like it's not always 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:17.760 as mutual as you think, and she's entitled to feel 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:20.600 how she feels. But that is something I've certainly had 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:21.960 to process and it didn't feel good. 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:22.920 I'm not gonna lie about that. 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:26.480 It's kind of like, well, dang, fifteen years and we're 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:29.320 kind of neutralized, right with people that you've known for 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:32.000 I don't know, a year, a few months. I don't 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:35.280 know how long she's known everybody, with the exception you 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:37.000 know of Tasha. 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:38.880 Tasha, you forgot Tasha's name. 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:42.720 Winter y'all didn't help matters with cutting out of things. 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:53.000 So anyway, Tasha, So she's the only you Okay, you, okay, 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:53.680 you need some water. 0:15:55.880 --> 0:16:01.600 I'm just drowning in the river of shade, go ahead, 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:02.480 says you know. 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.200 I feel like she's the only one that really would 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:07.360 have the title that would trump me in this situation. 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:11.240 So that was a little, I guess, disheartening to hear, like, basically, 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:13.360 we're all neutral, we're all starting from ground zero. 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:15.960 And so I wish I hadn't known that coming. 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:18.760 In, because I feel like that would have allowed me 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:22.120 to personally govern myself a little bit differently this season 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:27.360 instead of assuming that things were a lot more, you know, 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:28.440 tighter than they were. 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:30.320 And I'm not saying that we were best friends. I've 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:32.080 never said that. You can't find a scene where I 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:35.680 said we were best friends. But she is the person 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:39.280 that I'm closest to in this ecosystem, and so you 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:41.480 know that was like, dang, if I knew I was 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:43.080 going to be on an island, your girl might have 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:46.000 brought back up. I don't want to introduce some people, 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:47.480 but you. 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:49.320 Know, it is what it is. You live and you learn, 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:53.240 and I think moving forward? Should I move forward? 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:54.960 Oh? Hands down? 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:58.240 You know I think I would pack up blizzards and 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:02.160 some ice in my pop you know, yeah, you just 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:06.800 the storm would have to be for pay. 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:09.840 Maybe we are not done yet. 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:13.480 Stay tuned for more of my conversation with when Ter William. 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:18.040 We'll be right back after this quick break. 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:25.920 This is Reality with the King and I'm Carlos King. 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:33.360 Let's get back into my tail all chat with Winter William. 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:38.000 We saw on Twitter how during part one reunion you 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:42.159 felt that DJ Quick was aggressive towards you being a 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:45.560 man and you being a female. Absolutely, and Monique retweeted 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:49.480 and quoted herself saying, again I'm paraphrasing. 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:51.919 You know when her stop, He did not call you 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:52.720 to b word. 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:56.359 He was talking to the guy in question, which listen, 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:58.600 I'm the host and I can attest to the fact 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:00.879 that he never called you to be work because I 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:02.240 would not have stood up for that. 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:04.480 He did clarify that it was for the guy. 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:09.639 But you also retweeted moniques betweet and said something along 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:11.840 the lines of Monique, I know. 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:15.040 You have chosen a side, but this is how I feel. 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:18.360 Do you feel like Monique has pretty much made her 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:22.320 position stand to the point where she is way more 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:24.920 invested in her friendships with the Silvas and the talents 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:25.199 than you. 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:28.680 I do. I'm gonna be I'm giving you a honest answer, Harry, Yes, 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:31.119 I do. And for me, it's fine. 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:33.520 I think we can all recall the reunion where we're like, 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:35.600 there's a lot going on. I got called a beet 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:37.760 so many times he could have said it to me, 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:38.400 she could. 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:40.320 It was a lot of bees being thrown at me. 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:42.040 Yeah. But I will say this because I want to 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:43.840 be clear. I just want the world to know, and 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:44.720 I want you to know. Winter. 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:46.840 I will never allow a man to call you be word. 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:49.680 I would never have sat there and allowed that. That's 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:52.360