Speaker 1: I didn't say I was gonna show receipts, and trust me,
Speaker 1: I had been asked never let me tell you, because
Speaker 1: I knew that.
Speaker 2: Would be a major question.
Speaker 1: What I had done to basically rain on the fact
Speaker 1: that I was a liar about my receipts.
Speaker 2: I was not a liar. I just said it wasn't
Speaker 2: about showing them.
Speaker 1: I had clipped a copy of the receipts that I
Speaker 1: had up under my train.
Speaker 3: Stay tuned look into my conversation with Winter Williams right
Speaker 3: after these quick asks. Welcome to Reality with the King.
Speaker 3: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and
Speaker 3: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality
Speaker 3: television with over ten years of production experience. Twice a
Speaker 3: week on Reality with the King, we'll sit down with
Speaker 3: my across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows,
Speaker 3: and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking and
Speaker 3: tweeting about. Today's guest from Reality with the King is
Speaker 3: a star Honey from Love and Marriage DC. This woman
Speaker 3: I knew instantly she was a star the first moment
Speaker 3: I met her. Yes, guys, I'm talking about a storm,
Speaker 3: Honey that has been brewing for the past.
Speaker 4: Couple of months. Miss Winter Williams.
Speaker 3: On today's show, Winter and I get into so much tea.
Speaker 3: We talk about how she was not supposed to be
Speaker 3: on the show at all, and how Melody hoped getting
Speaker 3: sick allowed Winter to tape a scene and the rest
Speaker 3: is history. In addition to that, we also talk about
Speaker 3: how Winter has been called the Danielle styub of Love
Speaker 3: and Marriage DC.
Speaker 4: So if you are Real Housewives of New.
Speaker 3: Jersey fan, you know that Danielle came in on an
Speaker 3: island on her own and she set things on fire.
Speaker 3: So it's Winter the villain of Love and Marriage DC.
Speaker 3: And if so, does she take credit for the success
Speaker 3: of the season?
Speaker 4: Boy? Oh boy? We get into.
Speaker 3: Many, many, many things, including her current friendship with Monique
Speaker 3: Samuels without further ADO, let's get into this conversation.
Speaker 4: So, Winter, do you know who Danielle Style is?
Speaker 5: I do.
Speaker 2: Wasn't she on Real Housewives of What New Jersey or
Speaker 2: New York New Jersey, New Jersey? That's what I thought.
Speaker 3: So I worked on the first two seasons and Danielle
Speaker 3: Style made it on my Top ten Greatest Housewives of
Speaker 3: All Time list. So when people say you are the
Speaker 3: Danielle Styb A Love and Marriage DC.
Speaker 4: What does that mean for you?
Speaker 3: I think it's a compliment because she's iconic. But when
Speaker 3: you hear that, yeah, do you also take that as
Speaker 3: a compliment.
Speaker 1: I do, because she's almost like the moment that wasn't
Speaker 1: expected to be.
Speaker 4: A moment Winter Are you the moment?
Speaker 2: I am the moment. I'm the season of the moment.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm Winter year round apparently. So Hey, there are.
Speaker 1: Some legends in reality TV, and I don't really watch
Speaker 1: it all that much. I haven't watched it in a year,
Speaker 1: to be perfectly honest. But you know, it's not a dig.
Speaker 2: It's unlike, you know, some of the things I said
Speaker 2: during the season that you know, we're certainly digs. That's
Speaker 2: not a dig. That's a compliment, So I'll take it.
Speaker 3: So, before we get into this amazing Season A Love
Speaker 3: and Marriage, DC, I want my listeners to get to
Speaker 3: know more about you Winter the woman. So obviously what
Speaker 3: we saw the show was, you know, you in the
Speaker 3: process of divorcing your now ex husband. Other than that,
Speaker 3: let's get into who you are just as a woman
Speaker 3: before you came on reality television.
Speaker 1: So life for Winter before I came on Reality TV,
Speaker 1: was really pretty much centered around being an entrepreneur, full
Speaker 1: time student.
Speaker 2: I'm in doctoral school, and being a full time mom.
Speaker 1: I mean, I have four kids, so that's a full
Speaker 1: time job within itself, and really just building this platform
Speaker 1: for supporting women. Being transparent and honest and authentic about
Speaker 1: my story. I know that could be off putting for
Speaker 1: some people, but I've just learned that you're better off
Speaker 1: owning it, and so I've become comfortable with owning my
Speaker 1: story and so I share, I speak. I've been a
Speaker 1: public speaker for almost a decade now, and I'm a
Speaker 1: page you know, public speaker.
Speaker 2: So I'm really really okay.
Speaker 1: With the things I've had to walk through, the lessons
Speaker 1: I've had to learn, and I find that that has
Speaker 1: been really the draw for growing the platform that a
Speaker 1: lot of people see today that honestly was intact before
Speaker 1: I came on the show. This show has just helped,
Speaker 1: you know, expand my audience and my reach, but certainly
Speaker 1: it was there before I came here.
Speaker 2: So that's when as a woman, I'm fun, y'all. I
Speaker 2: love to have fun. I love to laugh, I love
Speaker 2: to have a good time.
Speaker 1: I think it is shocked Monique to heck that I
Speaker 1: have turned out to be as spicy as I am.
Speaker 1: And that really kind of speaks to kind of you
Speaker 1: said the off and on, but it's not really off
Speaker 1: and on. It's more so maybe the lack of depth
Speaker 1: that people notice throughout the season that we've had in
Speaker 1: the friendship. But if it was there now, she might
Speaker 1: not have brought.
Speaker 2: Me on the show. I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: She might have on y'all can be coming at Winter like,
Speaker 1: because this girl pop off if y'all catch on the
Speaker 1: right day, like I think her maybe assuming that I
Speaker 1: was this sweet little church girl and oh we pray
Speaker 1: and that's great. I love Jesus too, but uh try
Speaker 1: Jesus not me. That's really my motto.
Speaker 4: Winter. How did you get cast to be on Love
Speaker 4: and Marriage DC?
Speaker 1: That's a great question I get asked a lot. So
Speaker 1: I initially went through the cast and process with my
Speaker 1: ex husband and we didn't finish because of everything that
Speaker 1: went down, and was like, oh no, no, we can't
Speaker 1: uh uh take us out.
Speaker 3: Good?
Speaker 2: We got so much mess going on. Girlfriend, let me
Speaker 2: figure out what's going on over here.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you guys moved forward with casting while I
Speaker 1: was trying to figure life out, and so once I
Speaker 1: saw the initial cast, I actually message money congratulated her.
Speaker 2: I'm happy for you guys. I'll be watching.
Speaker 4: It.
Speaker 2: Just so happened that when you.
Speaker 1: Guys begin filming, she reached out and said, Hey, I
Speaker 1: need a speaker. Are you open to doing the scene?
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know, sure, And so I
Speaker 1: always liked to say that because she had to at
Speaker 1: least experience me to recommend me and know what I
Speaker 1: was capable of, and so it was at least enough
Speaker 1: depth in our friendship there to say, you know what,
Speaker 1: let's throw Winter in the mix. And so I appreciate
Speaker 1: her for that, and that's really how I got at it.
Speaker 1: I just was supposed to do one scene, y'all, one scene.
Speaker 1: Andy'll about my business, and I was happy with that.
Speaker 1: I was not here to try to get on the show.
Speaker 1: I was good at my little scene. And so when
Speaker 1: I got pulled aside and said, hey, will you come
Speaker 1: in a few days of film again, I had no
Speaker 1: idea you would be there, Carlos, Like literally I was shocked,
Speaker 1: Like I honestly was like, wait, wait a minute.
Speaker 2: Say who knows a minute.
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's how I got at it. It wasn't
Speaker 1: in the plan, It wasn't in the cards. I've never
Speaker 1: auditioned for reality TV before. I've always had aspirations to
Speaker 1: be in media, but more so, you know, I thought,
Speaker 1: I don't know, talk show things of that nature, but
Speaker 1: not reality TV.
Speaker 2: Who who want me?
Speaker 3: When we decided to do Love and Marriage DC, Monique
Speaker 3: and Chris obviously were a couple that we wanted to
Speaker 3: anchor the show, right.
Speaker 4: Yes, Because Monique had a.
Speaker 3: Different experience on her other show, I wanted to make
Speaker 3: sure that she was at least responsible for introducing me
Speaker 3: to who the the other couples would be.
Speaker 4: So she submitted I want to say, like seven couples.
Speaker 4: And we looked at.
Speaker 3: Winter's tape with Kevin, and it was a tape that
Speaker 3: was very interesting because I don't know if you remember
Speaker 3: this Winter, but went to talked about how his penis
Speaker 3: was big girlfriend and how he was good at this
Speaker 3: child and he will buy her all these gifts, and
Speaker 3: for me, I was like, Wow, it's still gonna be
Speaker 3: nice to have.
Speaker 4: A couple who really is in love with each other.
Speaker 4: Like they came across as like in the honeymoon.
Speaker 3: Phase Winter Girl, you were googly I and I was like,
Speaker 3: this would be great. You and Kevin were on the
Speaker 3: top list amongst the other couples, and then we learned
Speaker 3: that Kevin was going through this situation and we were like, well, girl,
Speaker 3: we can't start a franchise with a couple who's going
Speaker 3: through a divorce.
Speaker 4: That's weird.
Speaker 3: So we decided to move forward with other couples. Obviously,
Speaker 3: but and I don't know if you ever knew this,
Speaker 3: we were thinking about do we have three couples or
Speaker 3: four couples, And if we would have four couples, we
Speaker 3: were going to make you and Kevin a part of
Speaker 3: that collective.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, So listen, I will never take that man's
Speaker 1: side away.
Speaker 2: That ain't me. I will never do that, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm real about it.
Speaker 1: I feel like you need to give honor for honors due,
Speaker 1: and so I will never take that man size away.
Speaker 1: It was other issue that came into play that kind
Speaker 1: of sunk the ship. You know, people make it seem like, oh,
Speaker 1: she's a gold digger, Like, let's be clear, winner.
Speaker 2: Had her own before. So that was not the issue.
Speaker 2: I can ride if I need to ride.
Speaker 1: It was the things that compounded and made it difficult
Speaker 1: to overcome, which was just finding out a lot of deceit.
Speaker 1: This is how we get to the demidse of the divorce.
Speaker 2: But I didn't know.
Speaker 1: That we were in that top. But yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I went into the marriage earnestly. I really really did.
Speaker 1: And I think that's that's important for people to understand.
Speaker 1: This was not a joke for me. I was very serious.
Speaker 1: If I was going to give them a chance, I
Speaker 1: was gonna give them an ernest chance. It's just that,
Speaker 1: you know, you can't move forward in something where you
Speaker 1: honestly don't know the person that you're going to bed with,
Speaker 1: and so you know, lies and deceit just kind of
Speaker 1: changed the whole dynamics. So that's pretty that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: I mean, I won't take anything away from it.
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie. I never hear me lie about it.
Speaker 2: I don't lie about people penises.
Speaker 3: So the thing about that scene you brought up where
Speaker 3: the world was introduced to you in the first episode,
Speaker 3: the first scene Monique kind of pop up event and
Speaker 3: you were a guest speaker.
Speaker 4: What the world doesn't know is Melody.
Speaker 3: Holt was supposed to be a speaker at that pop
Speaker 3: up event, and the reason why Melody could not show
Speaker 3: up is because she was sick.
Speaker 4: She had the flu. But the show must go on.
Speaker 4: We asked Monique to postpone the event.
Speaker 3: Can we push it back a few days because I
Speaker 3: was like, well, it will be fun to have Melody
Speaker 3: in the first episode as a way to sort of
Speaker 3: like pass the torch to Monique. Long story short, Monique
Speaker 3: said Carlos, I spent money on this. It's not gonna happen,
Speaker 3: so she said, but I'll invite somebody to do it,
Speaker 3: and I believe you'll make it work. And you came
Speaker 3: into the scene as the guest speaker. And this is
Speaker 3: what I mean, guys when I say you have to
Speaker 3: let the reality gods do it work. Because if Melody
Speaker 3: Holt would have shown up for that scene, no shade,
Speaker 3: you guys would have never met Winter.
Speaker 1: Now true story, I didn't know who the guest speaker was.
Speaker 1: I don't know what she told me or not. Let
Speaker 1: me let me not say that. I'm not sure you
Speaker 1: told me or not. But I do know someone else
Speaker 1: was supposed to do it, and I was the feeling.
Speaker 2: So that's true.
Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't. I would not be here if it
Speaker 1: had not been for her not showing up.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Melody, No, may may, may your.
Speaker 2: Absence be restored unto you one hundredfold?
Speaker 4: Is that the minister's side of you? Winter it is? Well,
Speaker 4: let's get it to the messy side of you, honey. Yeah,
Speaker 4: the minister and.
Speaker 2: The mess Lord help the saints is going to be
Speaker 2: upset about this, but it's all good.
Speaker 4: But the sinners won't. South.
Speaker 3: Do you accept when people say you are the villain
Speaker 3: of love and Marriage?
Speaker 4: DC?
Speaker 2: Hell no, I'm sorry. I sure don't. Sorry. That's an
Speaker 2: exclusive these people and drove me to cuss God, dang it. No,
Speaker 2: I have a twin in this role. I will not
Speaker 2: take so responsibility for the villain. Absolutely not. I have
Speaker 2: a twin.
Speaker 4: Who's the twin, Ashley?
Speaker 3: So you would say that you actually shared the duty
Speaker 3: as the villains of love and Marriage DC?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, fraternal twins, but we twins. Absolutely. I will owe
Speaker 2: my part, Carlos. But now I got I had help.
Speaker 3: What we saw this season was you navigating through this
Speaker 3: social group of Monique's friends. It appears that Monique has
Speaker 3: made it very clear that in the fifteen years, y'all
Speaker 3: were friends that you two weren't close. She said on
Speaker 3: the reunion that she will always check in with you.
Speaker 4: You will never check in with her.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that it's never. I would say she's
Speaker 1: definitely more prevalent. And I feel like this is where
Speaker 1: I would love for her now to have a separate
Speaker 1: conversation because this is a type of conversation we really
Speaker 1: need to have, woman a woman like what were you anticipating?
Speaker 1: What were you expecting? Because if the situation has always
Speaker 1: kind of been general surface and yeah, we have the
Speaker 1: sisterhood and the connect then I would be interested to
Speaker 1: know was there ever the desire for there to be more,
Speaker 1: because again, a lot of it is how I deal,
Speaker 1: you know, just be having a busy life, having a
Speaker 1: busy schedule. If there was a desire to go deeper
Speaker 1: and that was expressed, then it would definitely cause me
Speaker 1: to move differently.
Speaker 2: But understanding where we both lead busy lives, I can't
Speaker 2: really accept that.
Speaker 1: And I don't know that she's ever expressed that she
Speaker 1: would love for there to be more. And I'll take
Speaker 1: the l on not being the primary one to reach out,
Speaker 1: but I have reached.
Speaker 2: Out, so I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's fair to paint the narrative that
Speaker 1: I've never reached out.
Speaker 2: That's just not true.
Speaker 1: But I will definitely give her the badge and reaching
Speaker 1: out more and definitely more surface.
Speaker 2: You know, I reached out to her when everything.
Speaker 1: Went down with you know, my last situation, So I
Speaker 1: just you know, she has her view, I have my view.
Speaker 2: I don't think either one of us are wrong. Perception
Speaker 2: is everything.
Speaker 3: A lot of people have said that Monique has distance
Speaker 3: herself from you. Do you feel like Monique has this
Speaker 3: in herself you because she wants to be friends with
Speaker 3: the other couples.
Speaker 2: I won't say that the reasoning is for being friends
Speaker 2: with other couple, I can't. I can't speak for her
Speaker 2: in that aspect.
Speaker 1: But for me being the friend, I do feel like
Speaker 1: there's been a side chosen and it's clearly not my side.
Speaker 2: That's how I feel.
Speaker 1: You know, you have to kind of process that, right
Speaker 1: because even though we were not close coming into this situation,
Speaker 1: she was the closest I had, and so surface or not,
Speaker 1: there were things that I shared with her that I
Speaker 1: certainly wouldn't just share with a stranger, and I certainly
Speaker 1: just wouldn't share, you know, haphazardly, like she has receipts, receipts,
Speaker 1: like things that I shared on the show were things
Speaker 1: I was comfortable with. But there's another side that I
Speaker 1: will talk to her about that I wouldn't necessarily talk
Speaker 1: with the others about openly. And so, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I had to process that, but I will own my
Speaker 1: part in it because I feel like one of the
Speaker 1: things I've learned about myself coming out of this situation
Speaker 1: with you know, the demise of my marriage and even
Speaker 1: with Monique, like in our friendship, I've learned that sometimes
Speaker 1: I personally have a tendency to inflate myself in the
Speaker 1: eyes of people that I may feel are closer to me,
Speaker 1: and it's not always mutual. And I don't really fault
Speaker 1: her for that. I fought myself and I'm learning to
Speaker 1: be more cognizant and pay attention, like it's not always
Speaker 1: as mutual as you think, and she's entitled to feel
Speaker 1: how she feels. But that is something I've certainly had
Speaker 1: to process and it didn't feel good.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie about that.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like, well, dang, fifteen years and we're
Speaker 1: kind of neutralized, right with people that you've known for
Speaker 1: I don't know, a year, a few months. I don't
Speaker 1: know how long she's known everybody, with the exception you
Speaker 1: know of Tasha.
Speaker 4: Tasha, you forgot Tasha's name.
Speaker 2: Winter y'all didn't help matters with cutting out of things.
Speaker 2: So anyway, Tasha, So she's the only you Okay, you, okay,
Speaker 2: you need some water.
Speaker 3: I'm just drowning in the river of shade, go ahead,
Speaker 3: says you know.
Speaker 1: I feel like she's the only one that really would
Speaker 1: have the title that would trump me in this situation.
Speaker 1: So that was a little, I guess, disheartening to hear, like, basically,
Speaker 1: we're all neutral, we're all starting from ground zero.
Speaker 2: And so I wish I hadn't known that coming.
Speaker 1: In, because I feel like that would have allowed me
Speaker 1: to personally govern myself a little bit differently this season
Speaker 1: instead of assuming that things were a lot more, you know,
Speaker 1: tighter than they were.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that we were best friends. I've
Speaker 2: never said that. You can't find a scene where I
Speaker 2: said we were best friends. But she is the person
Speaker 2: that I'm closest to in this ecosystem, and so you
Speaker 2: know that was like, dang, if I knew I was
Speaker 2: going to be on an island, your girl might have
Speaker 2: brought back up. I don't want to introduce some people,
Speaker 2: but you.
Speaker 1: Know, it is what it is. You live and you learn,
Speaker 1: and I think moving forward? Should I move forward?
Speaker 2: Oh? Hands down?
Speaker 1: You know I think I would pack up blizzards and
Speaker 1: some ice in my pop you know, yeah, you just
Speaker 1: the storm would have to be for pay.
Speaker 4: Maybe we are not done yet.
Speaker 3: Stay tuned for more of my conversation with when Ter William.
Speaker 4: We'll be right back after this quick break.
Speaker 3: This is Reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
Speaker 3: Let's get back into my tail all chat with Winter William.
Speaker 3: We saw on Twitter how during part one reunion you
Speaker 3: felt that DJ Quick was aggressive towards you being a
Speaker 3: man and you being a female. Absolutely, and Monique retweeted
Speaker 3: and quoted herself saying, again I'm paraphrasing.
Speaker 4: You know when her stop, He did not call you
Speaker 4: to b word.
Speaker 3: He was talking to the guy in question, which listen,
Speaker 3: I'm the host and I can attest to the fact
Speaker 3: that he never called you to be work because I
Speaker 3: would not have stood up for that.
Speaker 4: He did clarify that it was for the guy.
Speaker 3: But you also retweeted moniques betweet and said something along
Speaker 3: the lines of Monique, I know.
Speaker 4: You have chosen a side, but this is how I feel.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like Monique has pretty much made her
Speaker 3: position stand to the point where she is way more
Speaker 3: invested in her friendships with the Silvas and the talents
Speaker 3: than you.
Speaker 2: I do. I'm gonna be I'm giving you a honest answer, Harry, Yes,
Speaker 2: I do. And for me, it's fine.
Speaker 1: I think we can all recall the reunion where we're like,
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on. I got called a beet
Speaker 1: so many times he could have said it to me,
Speaker 1: she could.
Speaker 2: It was a lot of bees being thrown at me.
Speaker 4: Yeah. But I will say this because I want to
Speaker 4: be clear. I just want the world to know, and
Speaker 4: I want you to know. Winter.
Speaker 3: I will never allow a man to call you be word.
Speaker 3: I would never have sat there and allowed that. That's
Speaker 3: why we showed Chris checking quick the way he did.
Speaker 2: Yes, pretty much.
Speaker 6: Yes, you can't change what I This is what I
Speaker 6: will say if you have come up, And that's why
Speaker 6: we had to so quick say I'm not talking to her.
Speaker 6: I'm talking to him how his tooth sliss ask to
Speaker 6: keep my mother.
Speaker 4: I just want you to know, for me, I would
Speaker 4: have never allowed that.
Speaker 1: Now, Look, that's the thing a lot, and I want
Speaker 1: to be clear that I'm addressing the aggression part, like
Speaker 1: we can't take that back, which is why he's getting checked.
Speaker 1: And I think in that atmosphere, which is why I
Speaker 1: retweeted her tweet, like you're defending him, but don't invalidate
Speaker 1: how I felt. I'm speaking to the fact that in
Speaker 1: that moment it was very aggressive and whether he was
Speaker 1: directing that, the reality is that the person that's directed
Speaker 1: at is not there. So in that aspect, I'm taking
Speaker 1: the brunt and I did not think that was a
Speaker 1: fair display. Yes, you can be angry, do whatever you do,
Speaker 1: but I just feel like I shouldn't take the heat
Speaker 1: for something that you're saying is not for me. And
Speaker 1: so I felt like in that moment she invalidated how
Speaker 1: I felt. Because you can't speak for me, you can't
Speaker 1: tell me how I felt. It was a lot that night,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to be the first to be completely transparent.
Speaker 2: This is my first reunion. I don't know what to expect.
Speaker 1: You know, I've talked the monique before this reunion, like, hey,
Speaker 1: what do you think you know, how do these go?
Speaker 2: And she was like, I've never been afraid for a reunion.
Speaker 1: So she said, you know, make sure you have your
Speaker 1: points you want to cover, be prepared for the points
Speaker 1: they want to cover.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, cool, Like I've seen a reunion
Speaker 2: or three, right, right. I could have never predicted that,
Speaker 2: Like I really couldn't have. Like I knew people were coming.
Speaker 2: I knew people would come for winter.
Speaker 1: I was prepared for that part, but the level I
Speaker 1: was not prepared for. And that was a lot for me,
Speaker 1: even with the number of bees that I mean.
Speaker 2: She called me a lot that night. I don't speak
Speaker 2: that way. I don't care how angry I am. I
Speaker 2: really don't speak that way.
Speaker 1: So that was a very what I would consider a
Speaker 1: toxic and aggressive environment.
Speaker 2: And I was just like, I didn't know what was
Speaker 2: about to go down.
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you while people were coming for me,
Speaker 1: because you know, as well as I know Carlos, I
Speaker 1: have always maintained I said I heard Rubers, I didn't
Speaker 1: say what those rumors.
Speaker 2: I didn't say I was gonna show receipts and trust me.
Speaker 1: I had been asked, never let me tell you, because
Speaker 1: I knew that would be a major question what I
Speaker 1: had done to basically rain on the fact that I
Speaker 1: was a liar about my receipts.
Speaker 2: I was not a liar. I just said it wasn't
Speaker 2: about showing them.
Speaker 1: I had clipped a copy of the receipts that I
Speaker 1: had up under my train.
Speaker 3: What wait, hold up, that red dress you were wearing.
Speaker 3: The reason why it was heavy, it had so much
Speaker 3: garment is because you're saying to me exclusively on reality
Speaker 3: with the King, that you had your receipts, your tangible
Speaker 3: physical receipts taped or clip onto your dress, two.
Speaker 2: Black paper clips. We have footage. We took a video
Speaker 2: of it. Yes, that's what you're hearing.
Speaker 1: And it was never to show them, but to I
Speaker 1: was gonna flip my train over and be like, don't call.
Speaker 2: Me a liar.
Speaker 1: It's just that I'm trying to be respectful because I
Speaker 1: would never embarrass anyone like that.
Speaker 2: On national TV because of what I've been through.
Speaker 1: You know, just because I haven't shown anything doesn't mean
Speaker 1: I don't have it. I'm just trying to be respectful,
Speaker 1: and so I actually reached out to Arena after the
Speaker 1: reunion and told her that I would love to go
Speaker 1: to coffee with her because this was the thing. I
Speaker 1: never had an issue with them, and I really don't
Speaker 1: have an issue with the Silvas. I just knew that
Speaker 1: they would come for me about these receipts because that
Speaker 1: was always the talk. But I actually reached out to Arena.
Speaker 1: She never responded, but I offered to go out to
Speaker 1: lunch with her to give her a copy of what
Speaker 1: I had, because I felt like that was something woman
Speaker 1: to woman, like you don't want this stuff Eric on
Speaker 1: National TV. But I said, hey, you and Jamie open
Speaker 1: to a conversation.
Speaker 2: Let me know.
Speaker 1: I'm willing to go out with you and give these
Speaker 1: to you. So you know what was sent to me,
Speaker 1: Like these people were sending stuff like actually, as of yesterday,
Speaker 1: somebody sent me something on another cast me like actual
Speaker 1: tangible photo document.
Speaker 2: So this is the thing. These are the things that
Speaker 2: happen in reality tea.
Speaker 1: People don't realize once you get on these shows, you
Speaker 1: honestly don't have to go find receipts. The receipts come
Speaker 1: to you. People send them to you, and so it's
Speaker 1: up to you, whether or not you choose to move
Speaker 1: on these receipts or not. I just felt like I
Speaker 1: have always maintained that was not my goal. When I
Speaker 1: said I heard rumors, I'm just talking. I'm chopping it
Speaker 1: up with Monique. I was very honest in that moment.
Speaker 1: She said she heard rumors at that Ocean Prime, and
Speaker 1: I said to Monique, I heard rumors too. That is
Speaker 1: something I own that I said. But at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, don't start making the narrative or creating
Speaker 1: the narrative that, oh, she's lying, she ain't got nothing,
Speaker 1: she ain't doing like, no, I'm just I don't feel
Speaker 1: like that's necessary. I would never do that to someone.
Speaker 1: And we can say we want all the receipts we want.
Speaker 1: That's a different ballgame when they're actually out there. So
Speaker 1: I personally didn't display them, but yes I had them
Speaker 1: clicked under my train, and there's video footage that I
Speaker 1: honestly was going to, you know, drop, because I knew
Speaker 1: the conversation would be, oh, she lying, No I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm just not that person I could be but a nah.
Speaker 3: Winter knowing that you feel this way, and you felt like, look,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna embarrass you on national TV. But a
Speaker 3: lot of people argue though, that you still tape them
Speaker 3: on your dress. So when you would have unleash the
Speaker 3: garments and show the receipts, would they have been pictures
Speaker 3: that people would have been able to see or was
Speaker 3: it all just like words?
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, these were pictures.
Speaker 1: And the other thing that actually made me not flip
Speaker 1: my train because you have to understand that the things
Speaker 1: was clipped. Whether y'all liked it or not, y'all just
Speaker 1: didn't know they were there. So what made me decide
Speaker 1: not to say, hey, you know, I'm not lying, I'm
Speaker 1: just not willing to show them was the toxicity because
Speaker 1: I felt like, because of how aggressive and toxic, I
Speaker 1: believe I would have got bought that night if I'd
Speaker 1: have flipped that train, I believe I would have got flipped.
Speaker 2: Over that chair. Absolutely. And I'm too little to fight
Speaker 2: and too cute to fight too, so I don't fight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't allow fighting on Kingdom rank entertainment shows.
Speaker 1: But I but you also, you can't control a person's
Speaker 1: re response like those are the type of things that
Speaker 1: make people angry, Like I'm good, so when I saw that,
Speaker 1: I said.
Speaker 2: Oh, nobody, these things are staying in front of the skirts.
Speaker 3: So when you reach out to Arena to deliver these receipts,
Speaker 3: is it because the stuff that you allegedly know, you
Speaker 3: think it's in Arena's best interest to know these things.
Speaker 1: It's just it was a lot, and for me some
Speaker 1: of the information it was very personal, like very very personal.
Speaker 2: Also with a raina out of anybody on this cast.
Speaker 1: You know, Ashley and I definitely have had our tension
Speaker 1: in our back and forth, and I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways.
Speaker 2: You know, I've given ten, she's given a thousand.
Speaker 1: Like that's you know, I feel like that's our personality, like,
Speaker 1: and I know she feels like I kind of throw
Speaker 1: my rock and hide my hand.
Speaker 2: But with Arena, I felt like with her like.
Speaker 1: She didn't like my response that to the question you
Speaker 1: asked me on Nightcap, and so it was really like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know he asked me. I gave an honest answer.
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to offend you. I really was just
Speaker 1: being honest. But at the end of the day, I
Speaker 1: really have nothing against you because I wasn't saying it
Speaker 1: to be mean, like I really was given an honest assessment,
Speaker 1: and I just kind of moved on, said it moved on.
Speaker 2: You know, and I just wanted to say, hey, this
Speaker 2: is I'm gonna get us to you do with it
Speaker 2: what you will. But I felt like that was something
Speaker 2: I personally should let her know is out there. So
Speaker 2: that was really what that was about.
Speaker 1: It's not about save and face or anything like that,
Speaker 1: like you know, goodness, once you do this is out there,
Speaker 1: you got to own what you do. But that was
Speaker 1: my reason for reaching out to Arena because I honestly,
Speaker 1: out of everyone on this cast, I did feel like
Speaker 1: for me, she was the most genuine I really did.
Speaker 3: Ashley mentioned at the reunion that there's this alleged toothless guy.
Speaker 2: He wasn't at who the toothless is as imaginary as
Speaker 2: he was on a reunion, but.
Speaker 3: Okay, without naming names, that he's not here to defend himself. Right,
Speaker 3: They're saying, there is a guy who is well known
Speaker 3: in the DC streets where he knows Qui, and that
Speaker 3: you two are in a relationship and he is helping
Speaker 3: you feed these lies.
Speaker 4: What do you have to say about that accusation?
Speaker 1: We're referring to my best friend, and it's interesting and
Speaker 1: he has his teeth. That's the thing to get me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, who to please give me a look credit.
Speaker 1: I know I went down the AARP situation and my
Speaker 1: decisions might not can be trusted a man at this point,
Speaker 1: but dang tooth this, But to assume that winter of
Speaker 1: all people in the DMV, I am very well connected.
Speaker 2: That he would be my plug. What I know did
Speaker 2: not come from him.
Speaker 1: I can emphatically say that, but I will tell you Carlos,
Speaker 1: with them being so upset with whatever they think he
Speaker 1: knows or said or it's feeding.
Speaker 2: Me, it did make me like go back to him and.
Speaker 4: Be like, what the heck is going on?
Speaker 2: Like I don't know what their connection is.
Speaker 1: Even the whole conversation they were mentioning, I did not
Speaker 1: honestly know what the heck they were talking about. At
Speaker 1: the reunion, I'm like, you really need to talk to
Speaker 1: him because you're saying something that I'm not pretty to.
Speaker 1: I don't know if any conversations or called like it
Speaker 1: was just weird. So there was an accusation that we
Speaker 1: have been sleeping together for months, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: let's just talk about the whole abstinence situation, because I
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of that was thrown out to
Speaker 1: call me a hypocrite and embarrass me.
Speaker 2: But anyone who's a believer knows.
Speaker 1: We all fall short, and if you fall in the bedroom,
Speaker 1: which most passes and preachers are doing any way, tell
Speaker 1: the whole truth of SHANEA deep. I would not be
Speaker 1: this big announcement that all winners having sex.
Speaker 2: If I made a decision to have sex, I would
Speaker 2: just own it. It just really wasn't true.
Speaker 1: So I was more concerned about what they felt like
Speaker 1: he knew or didn't know. Like, I'm just like, I
Speaker 1: don't understand why him, Like I got so many guys
Speaker 1: around me that y'all could pick why this one.
Speaker 3: Are you saying that you slipped in the mail pond
Speaker 3: doing your absinute phase?
Speaker 2: Well, no, I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying that in my abstinent phase, I haven't always been abstinent.
Speaker 1: So I'm saying that if that was the case and
Speaker 1: I had a slip, I would have just owned it.
Speaker 4: Did you have a slip with the guy who's toothless?
Speaker 2: Allegedly, No, not the way they're claiming.
Speaker 1: No, I did not, And I'm like y'all trying to
Speaker 1: get all of my business. I don't give you, honey,
Speaker 1: lest I'm getting a check. Well, my last check came
Speaker 1: three weeks ago.
Speaker 2: Carlos, I love you just so quick on your feet?
Speaker 4: Baby? Are you still abstinent today?
Speaker 2: Cat's winter had sex today? No? I have not, so
Speaker 2: I'm abstinent today? No, I honestly, I honestly. It's interesting.
Speaker 1: I've been having this conversation with friends of mine who
Speaker 1: practice abstinence, and how we address.
Speaker 2: This is really just day by day, it's not. Is
Speaker 2: it hard to stay abstinent? Yes? Do I have difficulty gests?
Speaker 2: Have I fallen short at times? Yes?
Speaker 1: Have I fallen short in the last three four or
Speaker 1: five years that I've been accident, Oh, yes I have,
Speaker 1: and I'm.
Speaker 2: Not ashamed to say it.
Speaker 4: What about the last three four or five months?
Speaker 1: No, and I can honestly say I have not fallen short.
Speaker 1: While y'all over here trying to add stuff, honey, I listen,
Speaker 1: I would I have earned any fall shorts after what
Speaker 1: I've been through?
Speaker 4: You do? I want you to have some good sex.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's fair that Charae is having good
Speaker 3: love it with Martel holt. Hey you out here single,
Speaker 3: So do you want me to hook you up with
Speaker 3: a loving marriage?
Speaker 4: Huns noo.
Speaker 2: Guy, I don't have any problems, spinnaman, Carlos.
Speaker 1: I'm dating now, so I feel like there if I
Speaker 1: want to get some, I know how to get some.
Speaker 3: When you came out with your paddle that said friend
Speaker 3: to the show, was that friend to the show paddle
Speaker 3: a sort of like, you know, messy way of telling
Speaker 3: your castmates this friend of the show caused so much
Speaker 3: conversation that I actually am more than that.
Speaker 1: I feel like the conversation has been from my castmates
Speaker 1: like why is she causing so much drama? Why is
Speaker 1: she here? We don't need her here? And stop making
Speaker 1: me relevant the relevance here. So it was to say,
Speaker 1: if I'm a friend of the show, let me be
Speaker 1: a friend of the show. Because the other friend of
Speaker 1: the show was not at the reunion. Help me understand, Carlos,
Speaker 1: I'm checking a heartbeating a posse.
Speaker 6: See.
Speaker 4: Okay, No, I'm not.
Speaker 3: Would you like to come back to the show. Shall
Speaker 3: we get another season and stay friend to the show
Speaker 3: or would you like to be main cast?
Speaker 2: I have earned my flag in DC.
Speaker 4: You came in and you shook it up?
Speaker 3: Can you give us a little alcapella version of your
Speaker 3: hit single?
Speaker 5: Sign? Absolutely, you be lying. That's how we got here,
Speaker 5: you be lying. For the last two years, you been
Speaker 5: a sign my papous and give my DeVos buggage.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I t Spotify, sxam anywhere you can stream
Speaker 2: music and it's downloadable. So sign my papers to the
Speaker 2: name of the single and you can find me on
Speaker 2: simply Winter dot com or I'm simply Winter on Twitter,
Speaker 2: ig and Facebook.
Speaker 3: That was suck a messy, shady, but insightful conversation with
Speaker 3: Winter Boy. All I can say is if we get
Speaker 3: a season two, we have a lot to address. So
Speaker 3: stay tuned, and tonight we have the second episode of
Speaker 3: my latest aunt Bell Collective. Thank you guys so much
Speaker 3: for tuning in to the season premiere last week. Our
Speaker 3: show trended and it did well in the ratings, so
Speaker 3: thank you so much. Also, this second episode, Guy is.
Speaker 4: So good and so juicy, you do not want to
Speaker 4: miss it.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if Aikeisha is a woman of empowerment
Speaker 3: or if she's a woman who.
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Speaker 2: an affair.
Speaker 3: What do you think I'll bringing another? David Tioth, I'm
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