1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: I didn't say I was gonna show receipts, and trust me, 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: I had been asked never let me tell you, because 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: I knew that. 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 2: Would be a major question. 5 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: What I had done to basically rain on the fact 6 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: that I was a liar about my receipts. 7 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: I was not a liar. I just said it wasn't 8 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 2: about showing them. 9 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: I had clipped a copy of the receipts that I 10 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: had up under my train. 11 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 3: Stay tuned look into my conversation with Winter Williams right 12 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 3: after these quick asks. Welcome to Reality with the King. 13 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 3: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and 14 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 3: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality 15 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 3: television with over ten years of production experience. Twice a 16 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 3: week on Reality with the King, we'll sit down with 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: my across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows, 18 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 3: and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking and 19 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 3: tweeting about. Today's guest from Reality with the King is 20 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 3: a star Honey from Love and Marriage DC. This woman 21 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 3: I knew instantly she was a star the first moment 22 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 3: I met her. Yes, guys, I'm talking about a storm, 23 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 3: Honey that has been brewing for the past. 24 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 4: Couple of months. Miss Winter Williams. 25 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 3: On today's show, Winter and I get into so much tea. 26 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: We talk about how she was not supposed to be 27 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 3: on the show at all, and how Melody hoped getting 28 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: sick allowed Winter to tape a scene and the rest 29 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 3: is history. In addition to that, we also talk about 30 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 3: how Winter has been called the Danielle styub of Love 31 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: and Marriage DC. 32 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 4: So if you are Real Housewives of New. 33 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 3: Jersey fan, you know that Danielle came in on an 34 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: island on her own and she set things on fire. 35 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 3: So it's Winter the villain of Love and Marriage DC. 36 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: And if so, does she take credit for the success 37 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: of the season? 38 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 4: Boy? Oh boy? We get into. 39 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 3: Many, many, many things, including her current friendship with Monique 40 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 3: Samuels without further ADO, let's get into this conversation. 41 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 4: So, Winter, do you know who Danielle Style is? 42 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 5: I do. 43 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: Wasn't she on Real Housewives of What New Jersey or 44 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: New York New Jersey, New Jersey? That's what I thought. 45 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 3: So I worked on the first two seasons and Danielle 46 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 3: Style made it on my Top ten Greatest Housewives of 47 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 3: All Time list. So when people say you are the 48 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 3: Danielle Styb A Love and Marriage DC. 49 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 4: What does that mean for you? 50 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: I think it's a compliment because she's iconic. But when 51 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 3: you hear that, yeah, do you also take that as 52 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 3: a compliment. 53 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: I do, because she's almost like the moment that wasn't 54 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: expected to be. 55 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 4: A moment Winter Are you the moment? 56 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: I am the moment. I'm the season of the moment. 57 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: You know, I'm Winter year round apparently. So Hey, there are. 58 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: Some legends in reality TV, and I don't really watch 59 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: it all that much. I haven't watched it in a year, 60 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: to be perfectly honest. But you know, it's not a dig. 61 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: It's unlike, you know, some of the things I said 62 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: during the season that you know, we're certainly digs. That's 63 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: not a dig. That's a compliment, So I'll take it. 64 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: So, before we get into this amazing Season A Love 65 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: and Marriage, DC, I want my listeners to get to 66 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: know more about you Winter the woman. So obviously what 67 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 3: we saw the show was, you know, you in the 68 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 3: process of divorcing your now ex husband. Other than that, 69 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: let's get into who you are just as a woman 70 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: before you came on reality television. 71 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: So life for Winter before I came on Reality TV, 72 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: was really pretty much centered around being an entrepreneur, full 73 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: time student. 74 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 2: I'm in doctoral school, and being a full time mom. 75 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I have four kids, so that's a full 76 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: time job within itself, and really just building this platform 77 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: for supporting women. Being transparent and honest and authentic about 78 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: my story. I know that could be off putting for 79 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: some people, but I've just learned that you're better off 80 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: owning it, and so I've become comfortable with owning my 81 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: story and so I share, I speak. I've been a 82 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: public speaker for almost a decade now, and I'm a 83 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: page you know, public speaker. 84 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: So I'm really really okay. 85 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: With the things I've had to walk through, the lessons 86 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: I've had to learn, and I find that that has 87 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: been really the draw for growing the platform that a 88 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: lot of people see today that honestly was intact before 89 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: I came on the show. This show has just helped, 90 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: you know, expand my audience and my reach, but certainly 91 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: it was there before I came here. 92 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: So that's when as a woman, I'm fun, y'all. I 93 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: love to have fun. I love to laugh, I love 94 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 2: to have a good time. 95 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: I think it is shocked Monique to heck that I 96 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: have turned out to be as spicy as I am. 97 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: And that really kind of speaks to kind of you 98 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: said the off and on, but it's not really off 99 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: and on. It's more so maybe the lack of depth 100 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: that people notice throughout the season that we've had in 101 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: the friendship. But if it was there now, she might 102 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: not have brought. 103 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: Me on the show. I'm gonna be honest. 104 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: She might have on y'all can be coming at Winter like, 105 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: because this girl pop off if y'all catch on the 106 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: right day, like I think her maybe assuming that I 107 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: was this sweet little church girl and oh we pray 108 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: and that's great. I love Jesus too, but uh try 109 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: Jesus not me. That's really my motto. 110 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 4: Winter. How did you get cast to be on Love 111 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 4: and Marriage DC? 112 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: That's a great question I get asked a lot. So 113 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: I initially went through the cast and process with my 114 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: ex husband and we didn't finish because of everything that 115 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: went down, and was like, oh no, no, we can't 116 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: uh uh take us out. 117 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 3: Good? 118 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: We got so much mess going on. Girlfriend, let me 119 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: figure out what's going on over here. 120 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: Okay, So you guys moved forward with casting while I 121 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: was trying to figure life out, and so once I 122 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: saw the initial cast, I actually message money congratulated her. 123 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 2: I'm happy for you guys. I'll be watching. 124 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 4: It. 125 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: Just so happened that when you. 126 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: Guys begin filming, she reached out and said, Hey, I 127 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 1: need a speaker. Are you open to doing the scene? 128 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: And I was like, you know, sure, And so I 129 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: always liked to say that because she had to at 130 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: least experience me to recommend me and know what I 131 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: was capable of, and so it was at least enough 132 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 1: depth in our friendship there to say, you know what, 133 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: let's throw Winter in the mix. And so I appreciate 134 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: her for that, and that's really how I got at it. 135 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: I just was supposed to do one scene, y'all, one scene. 136 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: Andy'll about my business, and I was happy with that. 137 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: I was not here to try to get on the show. 138 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: I was good at my little scene. And so when 139 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: I got pulled aside and said, hey, will you come 140 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: in a few days of film again, I had no 141 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: idea you would be there, Carlos, Like literally I was shocked, 142 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: Like I honestly was like, wait, wait a minute. 143 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: Say who knows a minute. 144 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: Okay, So that's how I got at it. It wasn't 145 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: in the plan, It wasn't in the cards. I've never 146 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: auditioned for reality TV before. I've always had aspirations to 147 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: be in media, but more so, you know, I thought, 148 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, talk show things of that nature, but 149 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: not reality TV. 150 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: Who who want me? 151 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 3: When we decided to do Love and Marriage DC, Monique 152 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 3: and Chris obviously were a couple that we wanted to 153 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: anchor the show, right. 154 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 4: Yes, Because Monique had a. 155 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 3: Different experience on her other show, I wanted to make 156 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 3: sure that she was at least responsible for introducing me 157 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 3: to who the the other couples would be. 158 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 4: So she submitted I want to say, like seven couples. 159 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 4: And we looked at. 160 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 3: Winter's tape with Kevin, and it was a tape that 161 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 3: was very interesting because I don't know if you remember 162 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 3: this Winter, but went to talked about how his penis 163 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 3: was big girlfriend and how he was good at this 164 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 3: child and he will buy her all these gifts, and 165 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 3: for me, I was like, Wow, it's still gonna be 166 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 3: nice to have. 167 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 4: A couple who really is in love with each other. 168 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 4: Like they came across as like in the honeymoon. 169 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: Phase Winter Girl, you were googly I and I was like, 170 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 3: this would be great. You and Kevin were on the 171 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 3: top list amongst the other couples, and then we learned 172 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 3: that Kevin was going through this situation and we were like, well, girl, 173 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: we can't start a franchise with a couple who's going 174 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: through a divorce. 175 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 4: That's weird. 176 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 3: So we decided to move forward with other couples. Obviously, 177 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 3: but and I don't know if you ever knew this, 178 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: we were thinking about do we have three couples or 179 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 3: four couples, And if we would have four couples, we 180 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 3: were going to make you and Kevin a part of 181 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 3: that collective. 182 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: Oh wow, So listen, I will never take that man's 183 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: side away. 184 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: That ain't me. I will never do that, you know, 185 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: I'm real about it. 186 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: I feel like you need to give honor for honors due, 187 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: and so I will never take that man size away. 188 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: It was other issue that came into play that kind 189 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: of sunk the ship. You know, people make it seem like, oh, 190 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: she's a gold digger, Like, let's be clear, winner. 191 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: Had her own before. So that was not the issue. 192 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 2: I can ride if I need to ride. 193 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: It was the things that compounded and made it difficult 194 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: to overcome, which was just finding out a lot of deceit. 195 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: This is how we get to the demidse of the divorce. 196 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: But I didn't know. 197 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: That we were in that top. But yeah, I mean 198 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: I went into the marriage earnestly. I really really did. 199 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: And I think that's that's important for people to understand. 200 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: This was not a joke for me. I was very serious. 201 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: If I was going to give them a chance, I 202 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: was gonna give them an ernest chance. It's just that, 203 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: you know, you can't move forward in something where you 204 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: honestly don't know the person that you're going to bed with, 205 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: and so you know, lies and deceit just kind of 206 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: changed the whole dynamics. So that's pretty that's pretty cool. 207 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I won't take anything away from it. 208 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie. I never hear me lie about it. 209 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: I don't lie about people penises. 210 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 3: So the thing about that scene you brought up where 211 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,479 Speaker 3: the world was introduced to you in the first episode, 212 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 3: the first scene Monique kind of pop up event and 213 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 3: you were a guest speaker. 214 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 4: What the world doesn't know is Melody. 215 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 3: Holt was supposed to be a speaker at that pop 216 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: up event, and the reason why Melody could not show 217 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 3: up is because she was sick. 218 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 4: She had the flu. But the show must go on. 219 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 4: We asked Monique to postpone the event. 220 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 3: Can we push it back a few days because I 221 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 3: was like, well, it will be fun to have Melody 222 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 3: in the first episode as a way to sort of 223 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 3: like pass the torch to Monique. Long story short, Monique 224 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 3: said Carlos, I spent money on this. It's not gonna happen, 225 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 3: so she said, but I'll invite somebody to do it, 226 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 3: and I believe you'll make it work. And you came 227 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 3: into the scene as the guest speaker. And this is 228 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 3: what I mean, guys when I say you have to 229 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: let the reality gods do it work. Because if Melody 230 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 3: Holt would have shown up for that scene, no shade, 231 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 3: you guys would have never met Winter. 232 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: Now true story, I didn't know who the guest speaker was. 233 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what she told me or not. Let 234 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: me let me not say that. I'm not sure you 235 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: told me or not. But I do know someone else 236 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: was supposed to do it, and I was the feeling. 237 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: So that's true. 238 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't. I would not be here if it 239 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: had not been for her not showing up. 240 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 4: Thank you, Melody, No, may may, may your. 241 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: Absence be restored unto you one hundredfold? 242 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 4: Is that the minister's side of you? Winter it is? Well, 243 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 4: let's get it to the messy side of you, honey. Yeah, 244 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 4: the minister and. 245 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,599 Speaker 2: The mess Lord help the saints is going to be 246 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: upset about this, but it's all good. 247 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 4: But the sinners won't. South. 248 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 3: Do you accept when people say you are the villain 249 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 3: of love and Marriage? 250 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 4: DC? 251 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 2: Hell no, I'm sorry. I sure don't. Sorry. That's an 252 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 2: exclusive these people and drove me to cuss God, dang it. No, 253 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 2: I have a twin in this role. I will not 254 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: take so responsibility for the villain. Absolutely not. I have 255 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 2: a twin. 256 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 4: Who's the twin, Ashley? 257 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 3: So you would say that you actually shared the duty 258 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 3: as the villains of love and Marriage DC? 259 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 2: Absolutely, fraternal twins, but we twins. Absolutely. I will owe 260 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: my part, Carlos. But now I got I had help. 261 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 3: What we saw this season was you navigating through this 262 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:24,359 Speaker 3: social group of Monique's friends. It appears that Monique has 263 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 3: made it very clear that in the fifteen years, y'all 264 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 3: were friends that you two weren't close. She said on 265 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: the reunion that she will always check in with you. 266 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 4: You will never check in with her. 267 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that it's never. I would say she's 268 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: definitely more prevalent. And I feel like this is where 269 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: I would love for her now to have a separate 270 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: conversation because this is a type of conversation we really 271 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: need to have, woman a woman like what were you anticipating? 272 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: What were you expecting? Because if the situation has always 273 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: kind of been general surface and yeah, we have the 274 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: sisterhood and the connect then I would be interested to 275 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: know was there ever the desire for there to be more, 276 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: because again, a lot of it is how I deal, 277 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: you know, just be having a busy life, having a 278 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: busy schedule. If there was a desire to go deeper 279 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: and that was expressed, then it would definitely cause me 280 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: to move differently. 281 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 2: But understanding where we both lead busy lives, I can't 282 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: really accept that. 283 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: And I don't know that she's ever expressed that she 284 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: would love for there to be more. And I'll take 285 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: the l on not being the primary one to reach out, 286 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:28,359 Speaker 1: but I have reached. 287 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: Out, so I don't. 288 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: I don't think it's fair to paint the narrative that 289 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: I've never reached out. 290 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: That's just not true. 291 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: But I will definitely give her the badge and reaching 292 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: out more and definitely more surface. 293 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 2: You know, I reached out to her when everything. 294 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: Went down with you know, my last situation, So I 295 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: just you know, she has her view, I have my view. 296 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 2: I don't think either one of us are wrong. Perception 297 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 2: is everything. 298 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 3: A lot of people have said that Monique has distance 299 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 3: herself from you. Do you feel like Monique has this 300 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 3: in herself you because she wants to be friends with 301 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: the other couples. 302 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: I won't say that the reasoning is for being friends 303 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 2: with other couple, I can't. I can't speak for her 304 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 2: in that aspect. 305 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: But for me being the friend, I do feel like 306 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: there's been a side chosen and it's clearly not my side. 307 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 2: That's how I feel. 308 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: You know, you have to kind of process that, right 309 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: because even though we were not close coming into this situation, 310 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: she was the closest I had, and so surface or not, 311 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: there were things that I shared with her that I 312 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: certainly wouldn't just share with a stranger, and I certainly 313 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: just wouldn't share, you know, haphazardly, like she has receipts, receipts, 314 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: like things that I shared on the show were things 315 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: I was comfortable with. But there's another side that I 316 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: will talk to her about that I wouldn't necessarily talk 317 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: with the others about openly. And so, yeah, I think 318 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: I had to process that, but I will own my 319 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: part in it because I feel like one of the 320 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: things I've learned about myself coming out of this situation 321 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: with you know, the demise of my marriage and even 322 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: with Monique, like in our friendship, I've learned that sometimes 323 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: I personally have a tendency to inflate myself in the 324 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: eyes of people that I may feel are closer to me, 325 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: and it's not always mutual. And I don't really fault 326 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: her for that. I fought myself and I'm learning to 327 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: be more cognizant and pay attention, like it's not always 328 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: as mutual as you think, and she's entitled to feel 329 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: how she feels. But that is something I've certainly had 330 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: to process and it didn't feel good. 331 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie about that. 332 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: It's kind of like, well, dang, fifteen years and we're 333 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: kind of neutralized, right with people that you've known for 334 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, a year, a few months. I don't 335 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: know how long she's known everybody, with the exception you 336 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: know of Tasha. 337 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 4: Tasha, you forgot Tasha's name. 338 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: Winter y'all didn't help matters with cutting out of things. 339 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 2: So anyway, Tasha, So she's the only you Okay, you, okay, 340 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 2: you need some water. 341 00:15:55,880 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 3: I'm just drowning in the river of shade, go ahead, 342 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 3: says you know. 343 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: I feel like she's the only one that really would 344 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: have the title that would trump me in this situation. 345 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: So that was a little, I guess, disheartening to hear, like, basically, 346 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: we're all neutral, we're all starting from ground zero. 347 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: And so I wish I hadn't known that coming. 348 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: In, because I feel like that would have allowed me 349 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: to personally govern myself a little bit differently this season 350 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: instead of assuming that things were a lot more, you know, 351 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: tighter than they were. 352 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that we were best friends. I've 353 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: never said that. You can't find a scene where I 354 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: said we were best friends. But she is the person 355 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: that I'm closest to in this ecosystem, and so you 356 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 2: know that was like, dang, if I knew I was 357 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: going to be on an island, your girl might have 358 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: brought back up. I don't want to introduce some people, 359 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: but you. 360 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: Know, it is what it is. You live and you learn, 361 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: and I think moving forward? Should I move forward? 362 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: Oh? Hands down? 363 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: You know I think I would pack up blizzards and 364 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: some ice in my pop you know, yeah, you just 365 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: the storm would have to be for pay. 366 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 4: Maybe we are not done yet. 367 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 3: Stay tuned for more of my conversation with when Ter William. 368 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 4: We'll be right back after this quick break. 369 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 3: This is Reality with the King and I'm Carlos King. 370 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 3: Let's get back into my tail all chat with Winter William. 371 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 3: We saw on Twitter how during part one reunion you 372 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 3: felt that DJ Quick was aggressive towards you being a 373 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 3: man and you being a female. Absolutely, and Monique retweeted 374 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 3: and quoted herself saying, again I'm paraphrasing. 375 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 4: You know when her stop, He did not call you 376 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 4: to b word. 377 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 3: He was talking to the guy in question, which listen, 378 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 3: I'm the host and I can attest to the fact 379 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 3: that he never called you to be work because I 380 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: would not have stood up for that. 381 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 4: He did clarify that it was for the guy. 382 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 3: But you also retweeted moniques betweet and said something along 383 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 3: the lines of Monique, I know. 384 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 4: You have chosen a side, but this is how I feel. 385 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 3: Do you feel like Monique has pretty much made her 386 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 3: position stand to the point where she is way more 387 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 3: invested in her friendships with the Silvas and the talents 388 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 3: than you. 389 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 2: I do. I'm gonna be I'm giving you a honest answer, Harry, Yes, 390 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 2: I do. And for me, it's fine. 391 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: I think we can all recall the reunion where we're like, 392 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot going on. I got called a beet 393 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: so many times he could have said it to me, 394 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 1: she could. 395 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: It was a lot of bees being thrown at me. 396 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. But I will say this because I want to 397 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 4: be clear. I just want the world to know, and 398 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 4: I want you to know. Winter. 399 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 3: I will never allow a man to call you be word. 400 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 3: I would never have sat there and allowed that. That's 401 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 3: why we showed Chris checking quick the way he did. 402 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: Yes, pretty much. 403 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 6: Yes, you can't change what I This is what I 404 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 6: will say if you have come up, And that's why 405 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 6: we had to so quick say I'm not talking to her. 406 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,479 Speaker 6: I'm talking to him how his tooth sliss ask to 407 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 6: keep my mother. 408 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 4: I just want you to know, for me, I would 409 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 4: have never allowed that. 410 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: Now, Look, that's the thing a lot, and I want 411 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,479 Speaker 1: to be clear that I'm addressing the aggression part, like 412 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: we can't take that back, which is why he's getting checked. 413 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: And I think in that atmosphere, which is why I 414 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: retweeted her tweet, like you're defending him, but don't invalidate 415 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: how I felt. I'm speaking to the fact that in 416 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: that moment it was very aggressive and whether he was 417 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: directing that, the reality is that the person that's directed 418 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: at is not there. So in that aspect, I'm taking 419 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: the brunt and I did not think that was a 420 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: fair display. Yes, you can be angry, do whatever you do, 421 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: but I just feel like I shouldn't take the heat 422 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 1: for something that you're saying is not for me. And 423 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: so I felt like in that moment she invalidated how 424 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: I felt. Because you can't speak for me, you can't 425 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: tell me how I felt. It was a lot that night, 426 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: and I'm going to be the first to be completely transparent. 427 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 2: This is my first reunion. I don't know what to expect. 428 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: You know, I've talked the monique before this reunion, like, hey, 429 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: what do you think you know, how do these go? 430 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 2: And she was like, I've never been afraid for a reunion. 431 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: So she said, you know, make sure you have your 432 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: points you want to cover, be prepared for the points 433 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: they want to cover. 434 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, cool, Like I've seen a reunion 435 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 2: or three, right, right. I could have never predicted that, 436 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 2: Like I really couldn't have. Like I knew people were coming. 437 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 2: I knew people would come for winter. 438 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: I was prepared for that part, but the level I 439 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: was not prepared for. And that was a lot for me, 440 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: even with the number of bees that I mean. 441 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: She called me a lot that night. I don't speak 442 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 2: that way. I don't care how angry I am. I 443 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: really don't speak that way. 444 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: So that was a very what I would consider a 445 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: toxic and aggressive environment. 446 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 2: And I was just like, I didn't know what was 447 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: about to go down. 448 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: Let me just tell you while people were coming for me, 449 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,479 Speaker 1: because you know, as well as I know Carlos, I 450 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: have always maintained I said I heard Rubers, I didn't 451 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: say what those rumors. 452 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 2: I didn't say I was gonna show receipts and trust me. 453 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: I had been asked, never let me tell you, because 454 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: I knew that would be a major question what I 455 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: had done to basically rain on the fact that I 456 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 1: was a liar about my receipts. 457 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 2: I was not a liar. I just said it wasn't 458 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: about showing them. 459 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: I had clipped a copy of the receipts that I 460 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: had up under my train. 461 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 3: What wait, hold up, that red dress you were wearing. 462 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 3: The reason why it was heavy, it had so much 463 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 3: garment is because you're saying to me exclusively on reality 464 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 3: with the King, that you had your receipts, your tangible 465 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 3: physical receipts taped or clip onto your dress, two. 466 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 2: Black paper clips. We have footage. We took a video 467 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 2: of it. Yes, that's what you're hearing. 468 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: And it was never to show them, but to I 469 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: was gonna flip my train over and be like, don't call. 470 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: Me a liar. 471 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: It's just that I'm trying to be respectful because I 472 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: would never embarrass anyone like that. 473 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 2: On national TV because of what I've been through. 474 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: You know, just because I haven't shown anything doesn't mean 475 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: I don't have it. I'm just trying to be respectful, 476 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: and so I actually reached out to Arena after the 477 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: reunion and told her that I would love to go 478 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: to coffee with her because this was the thing. I 479 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: never had an issue with them, and I really don't 480 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: have an issue with the Silvas. I just knew that 481 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: they would come for me about these receipts because that 482 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: was always the talk. But I actually reached out to Arena. 483 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: She never responded, but I offered to go out to 484 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: lunch with her to give her a copy of what 485 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: I had, because I felt like that was something woman 486 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,239 Speaker 1: to woman, like you don't want this stuff Eric on 487 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: National TV. But I said, hey, you and Jamie open 488 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: to a conversation. 489 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: Let me know. 490 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 1: I'm willing to go out with you and give these 491 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: to you. So you know what was sent to me, 492 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: Like these people were sending stuff like actually, as of yesterday, 493 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: somebody sent me something on another cast me like actual 494 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: tangible photo document. 495 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,959 Speaker 2: So this is the thing. These are the things that 496 00:22:59,040 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: happen in reality tea. 497 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: People don't realize once you get on these shows, you 498 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: honestly don't have to go find receipts. The receipts come 499 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: to you. People send them to you, and so it's 500 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: up to you, whether or not you choose to move 501 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: on these receipts or not. I just felt like I 502 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: have always maintained that was not my goal. When I 503 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: said I heard rumors, I'm just talking. I'm chopping it 504 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: up with Monique. I was very honest in that moment. 505 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: She said she heard rumors at that Ocean Prime, and 506 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: I said to Monique, I heard rumors too. That is 507 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: something I own that I said. But at the end 508 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: of the day, don't start making the narrative or creating 509 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: the narrative that, oh, she's lying, she ain't got nothing, 510 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: she ain't doing like, no, I'm just I don't feel 511 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: like that's necessary. I would never do that to someone. 512 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: And we can say we want all the receipts we want. 513 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: That's a different ballgame when they're actually out there. So 514 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: I personally didn't display them, but yes I had them 515 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: clicked under my train, and there's video footage that I 516 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: honestly was going to, you know, drop, because I knew 517 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: the conversation would be, oh, she lying, No I'm not. 518 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 2: I'm just not that person I could be but a nah. 519 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 3: Winter knowing that you feel this way, and you felt like, look, 520 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna embarrass you on national TV. But a 521 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 3: lot of people argue though, that you still tape them 522 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 3: on your dress. So when you would have unleash the 523 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 3: garments and show the receipts, would they have been pictures 524 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 3: that people would have been able to see or was 525 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 3: it all just like words? 526 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, these were pictures. 527 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: And the other thing that actually made me not flip 528 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: my train because you have to understand that the things 529 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: was clipped. Whether y'all liked it or not, y'all just 530 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: didn't know they were there. So what made me decide 531 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: not to say, hey, you know, I'm not lying, I'm 532 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: just not willing to show them was the toxicity because 533 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: I felt like, because of how aggressive and toxic, I 534 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 1: believe I would have got bought that night if I'd 535 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: have flipped that train, I believe I would have got flipped. 536 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 2: Over that chair. Absolutely. And I'm too little to fight 537 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 2: and too cute to fight too, so I don't fight. 538 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't allow fighting on Kingdom rank entertainment shows. 539 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: But I but you also, you can't control a person's 540 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: re response like those are the type of things that 541 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: make people angry, Like I'm good, so when I saw that, 542 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: I said. 543 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 2: Oh, nobody, these things are staying in front of the skirts. 544 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 3: So when you reach out to Arena to deliver these receipts, 545 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 3: is it because the stuff that you allegedly know, you 546 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 3: think it's in Arena's best interest to know these things. 547 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: It's just it was a lot, and for me some 548 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: of the information it was very personal, like very very personal. 549 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 2: Also with a raina out of anybody on this cast. 550 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: You know, Ashley and I definitely have had our tension 551 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: in our back and forth, and I feel like, you know, 552 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. 553 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 2: You know, I've given ten, she's given a thousand. 554 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: Like that's you know, I feel like that's our personality, like, 555 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: and I know she feels like I kind of throw 556 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: my rock and hide my hand. 557 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 2: But with Arena, I felt like with her like. 558 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: She didn't like my response that to the question you 559 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: asked me on Nightcap, and so it was really like, hey, 560 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: you know he asked me. I gave an honest answer. 561 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: I didn't mean to offend you. I really was just 562 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: being honest. But at the end of the day, I 563 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: really have nothing against you because I wasn't saying it 564 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: to be mean, like I really was given an honest assessment, 565 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: and I just kind of moved on, said it moved on. 566 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 2: You know, and I just wanted to say, hey, this 567 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 2: is I'm gonna get us to you do with it 568 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 2: what you will. But I felt like that was something 569 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 2: I personally should let her know is out there. So 570 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 2: that was really what that was about. 571 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: It's not about save and face or anything like that, 572 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: like you know, goodness, once you do this is out there, 573 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: you got to own what you do. But that was 574 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: my reason for reaching out to Arena because I honestly, 575 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 1: out of everyone on this cast, I did feel like 576 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: for me, she was the most genuine I really did. 577 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 3: Ashley mentioned at the reunion that there's this alleged toothless guy. 578 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 2: He wasn't at who the toothless is as imaginary as 579 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 2: he was on a reunion, but. 580 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 3: Okay, without naming names, that he's not here to defend himself. Right, 581 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 3: They're saying, there is a guy who is well known 582 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 3: in the DC streets where he knows Qui, and that 583 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 3: you two are in a relationship and he is helping 584 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 3: you feed these lies. 585 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 4: What do you have to say about that accusation? 586 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: We're referring to my best friend, and it's interesting and 587 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: he has his teeth. That's the thing to get me. 588 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, who to please give me a look credit. 589 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: I know I went down the AARP situation and my 590 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: decisions might not can be trusted a man at this point, 591 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: but dang tooth this, But to assume that winter of 592 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: all people in the DMV, I am very well connected. 593 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: That he would be my plug. What I know did 594 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:36,719 Speaker 2: not come from him. 595 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: I can emphatically say that, but I will tell you Carlos, 596 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: with them being so upset with whatever they think he 597 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: knows or said or it's feeding. 598 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 2: Me, it did make me like go back to him and. 599 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 4: Be like, what the heck is going on? 600 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 2: Like I don't know what their connection is. 601 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 1: Even the whole conversation they were mentioning, I did not 602 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: honestly know what the heck they were talking about. At 603 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: the reunion, I'm like, you really need to talk to 604 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: him because you're saying something that I'm not pretty to. 605 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if any conversations or called like it 606 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: was just weird. So there was an accusation that we 607 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: have been sleeping together for months, and I'm like, okay, 608 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: let's just talk about the whole abstinence situation, because I 609 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 1: feel like a lot of that was thrown out to 610 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: call me a hypocrite and embarrass me. 611 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 2: But anyone who's a believer knows. 612 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: We all fall short, and if you fall in the bedroom, 613 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 1: which most passes and preachers are doing any way, tell 614 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: the whole truth of SHANEA deep. I would not be 615 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: this big announcement that all winners having sex. 616 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 2: If I made a decision to have sex, I would 617 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 2: just own it. It just really wasn't true. 618 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: So I was more concerned about what they felt like 619 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: he knew or didn't know. Like, I'm just like, I 620 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: don't understand why him, Like I got so many guys 621 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: around me that y'all could pick why this one. 622 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 3: Are you saying that you slipped in the mail pond 623 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 3: doing your absinute phase? 624 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 2: Well, no, I'm. 625 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: Saying that in my abstinent phase, I haven't always been abstinent. 626 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: So I'm saying that if that was the case and 627 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: I had a slip, I would have just owned it. 628 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 4: Did you have a slip with the guy who's toothless? 629 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 2: Allegedly, No, not the way they're claiming. 630 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: No, I did not, And I'm like y'all trying to 631 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: get all of my business. I don't give you, honey, 632 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: lest I'm getting a check. Well, my last check came 633 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: three weeks ago. 634 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 2: Carlos, I love you just so quick on your feet? 635 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 4: Baby? Are you still abstinent today? 636 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 2: Cat's winter had sex today? No? I have not, so 637 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 2: I'm abstinent today? No, I honestly, I honestly. It's interesting. 638 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: I've been having this conversation with friends of mine who 639 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: practice abstinence, and how we address. 640 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 2: This is really just day by day, it's not. Is 641 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 2: it hard to stay abstinent? Yes? Do I have difficulty gests? 642 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 2: Have I fallen short at times? Yes? 643 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: Have I fallen short in the last three four or 644 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: five years that I've been accident, Oh, yes I have, 645 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: and I'm. 646 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 2: Not ashamed to say it. 647 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 4: What about the last three four or five months? 648 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: No, and I can honestly say I have not fallen short. 649 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: While y'all over here trying to add stuff, honey, I listen, 650 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: I would I have earned any fall shorts after what 651 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: I've been through? 652 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 4: You do? I want you to have some good sex. 653 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 3: I don't think it's fair that Charae is having good 654 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 3: love it with Martel holt. Hey you out here single, 655 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 3: So do you want me to hook you up with 656 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 3: a loving marriage? 657 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 4: Huns noo. 658 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 2: Guy, I don't have any problems, spinnaman, Carlos. 659 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: I'm dating now, so I feel like there if I 660 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: want to get some, I know how to get some. 661 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 3: When you came out with your paddle that said friend 662 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 3: to the show, was that friend to the show paddle 663 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 3: a sort of like, you know, messy way of telling 664 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 3: your castmates this friend of the show caused so much 665 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,719 Speaker 3: conversation that I actually am more than that. 666 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: I feel like the conversation has been from my castmates 667 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: like why is she causing so much drama? Why is 668 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: she here? We don't need her here? And stop making 669 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: me relevant the relevance here. So it was to say, 670 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: if I'm a friend of the show, let me be 671 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: a friend of the show. Because the other friend of 672 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: the show was not at the reunion. Help me understand, Carlos, 673 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm checking a heartbeating a posse. 674 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 6: See. 675 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 4: Okay, No, I'm not. 676 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 3: Would you like to come back to the show. Shall 677 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 3: we get another season and stay friend to the show 678 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 3: or would you like to be main cast? 679 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 2: I have earned my flag in DC. 680 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 4: You came in and you shook it up? 681 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 3: Can you give us a little alcapella version of your 682 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 3: hit single? 683 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 5: Sign? Absolutely, you be lying. That's how we got here, 684 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 5: you be lying. For the last two years, you been 685 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 5: a sign my papous and give my DeVos buggage. 686 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I t Spotify, sxam anywhere you can stream 687 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 2: music and it's downloadable. So sign my papers to the 688 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 2: name of the single and you can find me on 689 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 2: simply Winter dot com or I'm simply Winter on Twitter, 690 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 2: ig and Facebook. 691 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 3: That was suck a messy, shady, but insightful conversation with 692 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 3: Winter Boy. All I can say is if we get 693 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 3: a season two, we have a lot to address. So 694 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 3: stay tuned, and tonight we have the second episode of 695 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 3: my latest aunt Bell Collective. Thank you guys so much 696 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 3: for tuning in to the season premiere last week. Our 697 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 3: show trended and it did well in the ratings, so 698 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 3: thank you so much. Also, this second episode, Guy is. 699 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 4: So good and so juicy, you do not want to 700 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 4: miss it. 701 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 2: My name is Aikeisha. I am the real Queen of Jackson, Mississippi. 702 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if Aikeisha is a woman of empowerment 703 00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 3: or if she's a woman who. 704 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 2: Has to be in power. Kysha and Demand are having 705 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 2: an affair. 706 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 3: What do you think I'll bringing another? David Tioth, I'm 707 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,959 Speaker 3: at zero on want to have a baby. I need 708 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 3: tell me the true Tonight at nine o'clock A Central. 709 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 4: On the Oprah Winfree Network. 710 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 3: Thank you for listening to Reality with the King. New 711 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 3: episodes drop every Wednesday and Friday. Share, comment, follow, and 712 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 3: subscribe to Reality with the King. Wherever you get your podcast, 713 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 3: visit Reality withthe King dot com and be sure to 714 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 3: follow me at the Carlos King Underscore on Instagram and Twitter. 715 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 3: Reality with the King is a production of Worksoft by Sitcher. 716 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 3: It is executive produced by Me, Carlos King, and Jasmine 717 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 3: Henley Brown. We are also produced by Sierra s Grady 718 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 3: brick Laporta. Thomas was the associate producer on today's episode. 719 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 3: Engineering and music by Marcus Ham Moi Sauce