WEBVTT - I Wanna Be A Cowboy

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be a cowboy. It's one more thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm strong and getty, one more thing. So my kind

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<v Speaker 1>my kids are kind of in that age, Joe On.

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<v Speaker 1>My oldest son is in the where you like seriously

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<v Speaker 1>have to start thinking about what you might want to

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<v Speaker 1>do with your life. But my younger son is at

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of more fanciful age of what do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be when you grow up? And so we

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<v Speaker 1>have these conversations on a regular basis. You know, like

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<v Speaker 1>when you're a really little kid, you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>a I don't know, astronaut or a cowboy.

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<v Speaker 2>Rearranging cattle is honorable work. It is cowboy.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually ended up working in a place where I

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<v Speaker 1>could have been become a cowboy if that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 3>The end of a cowboy you wear boots on the beach.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the actual job was. I was working at

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<v Speaker 1>the feed lot and at some point you take the

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to do go the feed truck driver

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<v Speaker 1>route or do you want to go the cowboy route?

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<v Speaker 1>And I want the feed truck driver rout because I

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't planning on being a cowboys more like a

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<v Speaker 1>life profession. That's not something you just do for a year.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like you're going to be your life. But uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to ask everybody before I give. One

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<v Speaker 1>of my youngest son's current plan is, which is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of funny for you, what he wants to do his life.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you want to be when you grew up, Katie?

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to be a marine biologist.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good one because you saw Seinfeld and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what George Costanza said.

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<v Speaker 2>He was exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always wanted to pretend to be a marine biologist.

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<v Speaker 4>I think both of my daughters may have had a

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<v Speaker 4>time where they wanted to do that. You see dolphins

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<v Speaker 4>and sea turtles and all sorts of endearing creatures, and

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<v Speaker 4>you hear their at risk.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to do Yeah, it's fine profession.

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<v Speaker 1>And what at what point did you decide you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be that? Or maybe you don't even remember,

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<v Speaker 1>because like some of my stuff, I don't remember ever

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<v Speaker 1>making a decision, or it's not like I looked into

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<v Speaker 1>it now. It looks to me like according to the

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<v Speaker 1>actuary titles, that people die at a young age in

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<v Speaker 1>this profession, and he only make this much money, So

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<v Speaker 1>I'll turn my gaze so towards something else. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>the way it usually works.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that's not how it happened. I went from

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<v Speaker 3>marine biologist to.

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<v Speaker 5>Archaeologist, and then another good one ended up in radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Ended up in radio.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if that No, that's because what I

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<v Speaker 5>ended up actually wanting to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, okay, wanting to do that. At what point, at

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<v Speaker 1>what point in your life did you decide you wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be on the radio.

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<v Speaker 3>Around the time that I was a teenager, so thirteen, okish?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Interesting, fell in love of the morning show. I was

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<v Speaker 5>listening to Rush with my dad all the time. Found

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<v Speaker 5>out dad did some radio, and here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>It's awesome, cool Michael.

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<v Speaker 6>I also wanted to be in radio as a little kid,

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<v Speaker 6>believe it or not. But I like the technical stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>I used to take tinker toys and build tall towers

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<v Speaker 6>all the way to the ceiling of the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's interesting. We worked with you for twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>years and I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it was a little kid, but I would play

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<v Speaker 6>I remember I'd have a little record player of a

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<v Speaker 6>Fisher Price record player and now pretendo was a but

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<v Speaker 6>I always Yeah, I ended up wanting to play with

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<v Speaker 6>you know, buttons and things like that. So that's kind

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<v Speaker 6>of what I'm doing now.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool, Yeah, with.

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<v Speaker 4>Great skill and a plumb Joe Getty, Uh, fairly standard

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<v Speaker 4>American midwestern boy, a cycle of paleontologist, hockey player, baseball player.

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<v Speaker 2>Professional musician, lawyer than this dead end job.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you see?

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<v Speaker 2>You know there was definitely a progression.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember why you changed your mind on various stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I think running up against reality, honestly realizing I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>really good enough for that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have other interests. Now, I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>as simple as that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, if I go way back to the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was cowboy.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>For a very long time, I wanted to be a harpenter,

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<v Speaker 1>and I really liked working with building stuff and all

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of things. Still do. But like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember it any at any point deciding I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I probably hit my thumb a lot, so maybe I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just, you know, just stopped being my

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<v Speaker 1>interest for whatever reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's it. You just develop other interests,

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<v Speaker 2>get passion for something else.

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<v Speaker 1>I was hardcore. I was going to join the Marines

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<v Speaker 1>for most of high school. I mean, this wasn't even

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<v Speaker 1>when I was a little kid. I mean, that was

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<v Speaker 1>just absolutely my plan to change that. I don't know, huh,

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly don't know. It has something to do with

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<v Speaker 1>hearing about a radio program. I think I was I

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<v Speaker 1>was in I never did any sort of like drama

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<v Speaker 1>musical stuff until my senior year of high school. And

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<v Speaker 1>I did that and I got kind of sucked into

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<v Speaker 1>that world of performing entertaining the adulation that comes with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I heard about a radio program at a

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<v Speaker 1>nearby community college where practically everybody who went there found

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<v Speaker 1>a full time job in radio. At least that was

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<v Speaker 1>the stat at the time, which is amazing now. It

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<v Speaker 1>was true then but impossible now there's not three full

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<v Speaker 1>time radio jobs available in the country. But I just thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that'd be awesome. I always had listened to I always

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<v Speaker 1>liked the idea of being on the radio, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I was full speed on that after that. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember why I changed my mind, Like you would

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<v Speaker 1>think you'd remember that, but I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>The Marines thing, yes, unless it's you know, as I said,

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<v Speaker 4>you just develop other passions and you kind of get

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<v Speaker 4>led away, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I've sometimes wondered what my life would have been like

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<v Speaker 1>if I had gone that direction. I kind of wish

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<v Speaker 1>I would have, just for the challenge of it and

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<v Speaker 1>everything that comes with it. But I'm really happy with

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<v Speaker 1>the way things turned out in my career this way,

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<v Speaker 1>so I wouldn't want to mess with it too much.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, sometime, when Elon gets the right rocket, I

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<v Speaker 1>will travel to the parallel universe where I joined the

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<v Speaker 1>Marine Corps, see where I ended up. Here's my son's

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<v Speaker 1>current plan. He wants to double up on his school work.

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<v Speaker 1>Currently he does a combination of homeschool and independent study.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not in a traditional school setting, he is. He

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<v Speaker 1>wants to double up on his school work. He wants

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<v Speaker 1>to pass the GED at sixteen so he'll have his

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<v Speaker 1>high school education. Then he wants to spend two years

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<v Speaker 1>getting jacked.

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<v Speaker 2>And then wow, there was a twist there. Did not

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<v Speaker 2>see that coming?

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<v Speaker 3>Did not That was not on my Bengo card.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean either.

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<v Speaker 1>It made me laugh out loud, just like this yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>when he told me this is my plan. Now, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna double up my studying so I can get my

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<v Speaker 1>GED at sixteen, then I'm gonna spend two years getting jacked.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, all right, So now he's educated in Swollen and

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<v Speaker 4>then what next?

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<v Speaker 1>And then he's going to join the military because he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to do like my brother Jeff, who was career military,

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<v Speaker 1>because he's seen somebody do the other end of it.

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<v Speaker 1>He also is just an odd He's a different sort

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<v Speaker 1>of human being in it. He seems to understand like

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<v Speaker 1>Time Orrie as a kid, the way that you only

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<v Speaker 1>usually do as an adult. But to him, twenty years

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<v Speaker 1>in the military, where you get, you know, the all

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<v Speaker 1>the benefits that come with him, he thinks I'd only

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<v Speaker 1>be thirty eight, so it's just see, I'd have all

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<v Speaker 1>these other opportunities to do this and that It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not usually the way you think when you're young.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, being thirty eight seems like you might as

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<v Speaker 1>well be dead, So there's no way I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>commit to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's the way he looks at things that is

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<v Speaker 2>utterly unique.

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<v Speaker 4>I now continually reminded my kids of of that reality,

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<v Speaker 4>because it does not seem that way when you're young.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember being practice not panic stricken, but extremely concerned

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<v Speaker 4>at age twenty two and a half that I wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>completely certain what I wanted to do, right, right, go

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<v Speaker 4>off and do something for five years, then you'll be

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<v Speaker 4>twenty seven and a half. Oh you know, from this perspective,

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<v Speaker 4>it's crazy. But man, that is that is so nuts

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<v Speaker 4>that he's in a good way that he's got that perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, because we all just went through all

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<v Speaker 1>our different iterations of things we want to do. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't him to stay on this plan, but he's been

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<v Speaker 1>with it for quite a while. He's always asking my

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<v Speaker 1>brother about the military. This military then, and it would

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually a good plan if you if you can

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<v Speaker 1>handle the idea at a young age of twenty year

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<v Speaker 1>commitment or something, and you don't have to commit for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years at a time. You sign up for chunks

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<v Speaker 1>at a time.

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<v Speaker 5>But uh, boy, understanding that age is that's amazing because.

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<v Speaker 1>You're so young when you're thirty eight, good lord, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh.

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<v Speaker 3>I just had a conversation with a girl over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 5>She lost her job unfortunately on Friday, and she's losing it.

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<v Speaker 3>She is twenty six years old.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh boy, She's like, I'm already twenty six I went,

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<v Speaker 5>first of all, shut up about already.

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<v Speaker 1>Being twenty six. Okay, not of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, Second, you're fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Go find the twenty three year old who wants to

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<v Speaker 4>hear that the rest of us not so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's pretty funny. But I had never heard anybody

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<v Speaker 1>who had the plan of taking two years off to

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<v Speaker 1>get jacked.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So just as in aside on a semi serious note,

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<v Speaker 4>it's one of the reasons I really believe in mentoring

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<v Speaker 4>programs and am like crazy super passionate about not papering

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<v Speaker 4>over deficiencies in schools in like inner city areas, rough

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<v Speaker 4>areas wherever schools are suffering, and then just admitting the

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<v Speaker 4>kids anyway, because my and Jack knows this story, the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that it didn't even occur to me to pursue

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<v Speaker 4>a career in radio until I was at a band

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<v Speaker 4>rehearsal and one of the guitar players said he was

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<v Speaker 4>going to his radio class, and I thought, oh, is

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<v Speaker 4>that how you do that? I'd be better than him,

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<v Speaker 4>and I enrolled in a radio class. It was as

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<v Speaker 4>if I'd spent my entire life wandering around saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'd really like to cure people of disease, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>fascinated by pharmacology and knives don't bother me, and I

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<v Speaker 4>understand that surgery is important, and boy oh boy, I

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<v Speaker 4>like science and again healing people. And it never occurred

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<v Speaker 4>to me to be a doctor. I mean, it was

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<v Speaker 4>that dense that it had never occurred to me. It

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<v Speaker 4>just didn't For some reason. I thought they import space

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<v Speaker 4>aliens to do that, or you're hatched or I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>summoned by God. It never occurred to me. No, you

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<v Speaker 4>just make a couple of basic steps and then you

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<v Speaker 4>explore it. And the fact that I could have that

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<v Speaker 4>that's lack of vision just because I didn't know what

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<v Speaker 4>those steps were. I realized there are lots and lots

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<v Speaker 4>of kids like that that are kind of doomed to

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<v Speaker 4>not pursue their dreams or even understand what their dreams

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<v Speaker 4>are because they haven't seen somebody do it. And so

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<v Speaker 4>that's what's so important about mentoring programs. And like the NFL,

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<v Speaker 4>one of the best Super Bowl ads this is the

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<v Speaker 4>day after the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>We're taping this.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the best ones was that I am somebody thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Or they go into neighborhoods and they tell kids, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>this is a real possibility.

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<v Speaker 2>People like you do this. I think those are great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a weird thing about the human mind. It's

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<v Speaker 1>putting limitations on yourself just for like things you aren't

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<v Speaker 1>aware of, right a A variety of area areas, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just odd.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't explain it. It's just weird.

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<v Speaker 4>Little kid walking around in a lab coat and just

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<v Speaker 4>fascinated by disease, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I just wish you could do something with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess I'll go manage a grocery store.

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<v Speaker 6>I remember in high school, I wasn't getting very good grades,

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<v Speaker 6>and I was at the guidance counselor and he said,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, what kind of career do you think you're gonna,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, have with this kind of grades. I looked

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<v Speaker 6>at him and said, how about a guidance counselor?

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<v Speaker 1>Very poorly?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh man, it's funny, true, it's funny, youth full trolling

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<v Speaker 4>at its best.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess that's it.