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Speaker 1: What is going on, everybody, John Middlecott, that's me rocking

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Speaker 1: But this stuff is not just made up clearly, So

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Speaker 1: But this trade is a good example of things change,

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Speaker 1: Like here's our offer, here's what other people are willing

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Speaker 1: big reason because I go back, why didn't they trade them?

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Speaker 1: Like if they knew that it was going to be

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Speaker 1: complicated because the offers weren't there because he's Brandon Ayuk,

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Speaker 1: He's not Tyreek Killer DeVante Adams. People were lined up

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Speaker 1: to give him a first round pick after the combine,

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Speaker 1: before free agency. That wasn't the case. They didn't have

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Speaker 1: a first round pick on the tape around the draft.

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Speaker 1: He can get mad. People can argue over the analytics

434
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Speaker 1: all you want, like the market's kind of speaking for itself,

435
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Speaker 1: and now they're hoping maybe a little desperation. Training camp

436
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Speaker 1: teams feel pressure, but like I said, I think this

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Speaker 1: situation is going to keep playing it out, which doesn't

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Speaker 1: help the forty nine ers, which clearly there feels like

439
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Speaker 1: they're more involved in this in Trent, like, hey, this

440
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Speaker 1: is one of the best players in the league. You

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Speaker 1: probably want to get him to the camp. He's thirty five

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Speaker 1: and you want him working out. And if you're a

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Speaker 1: Cowboy fan right now, you're like, what the hell's going

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Speaker 1: on with the forty nine Ers, Eagles and it's true,

445
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 1: and this is it's crazy, but all these other teams

446
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Speaker 1: are involved, and I can't imagine they're happy, especially the

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Speaker 1: teams where you're leaking. Their players might get traded. If

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Speaker 1: I'm the Browns, I'm like, come on, guys, don't don't leak.

449
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Speaker 1: We'd trade you with Marii Cooper. We need this guy

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Speaker 1: if the trade doesn't happen. Last, but not least, the

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Speaker 1: Lions and the Giants. Every clip I've seen of those

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Speaker 1: practices has been really, really enjoyable. It has been an

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Speaker 1: all out brawl in Jersey. Every other play feels like

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Speaker 1: just ten guys going at it from each side. And

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Speaker 1: then I started thinking, it's probably the perfect storm. It

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Speaker 1: really is. Obviously, fights happened in these training camp practies.

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Speaker 1: You're so used to hitting your own teammate you just

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Speaker 1: get tired of doing the same stuff over and over.

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Speaker 1: So finally you get to play another team. It's full speed.

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Speaker 1: Guys are hitting late, you don't know the guy. He

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Speaker 1: might push your head or whatever, and you're just you

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Speaker 1: get triggered and you fire. But think about this, The

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Speaker 1: Lions are now viewed as one of the best teams

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, and their coach. Remember on Hard Knocks

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. It's pretty nuts, and he

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Speaker 1: likes edginice and fighting. And I'm not saying he wants

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Speaker 1: guys swinging, but he wants you right on that line.

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Speaker 1: And that's the way he coaches. I would imagine that's

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Speaker 1: the way he was as a player. That's literally the

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Speaker 1: way he's run his operations, like we're gonna hit you

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Speaker 1: right in the teeth. Listen. He went viral for all this,

472
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Speaker 1: sayings like I'm gonna bite your kneecap and have a

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Speaker 1: lion on that, which is awesome. Yeah. I find Dan

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Speaker 1: Campbell one of the better characters of the NFL. So

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Speaker 1: they're this team, it's kind of like new Money or

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Speaker 1: maybe some new Found Muscles that walks around a little

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Speaker 1: cocky and shows up like we're gonna beat your ass.

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Speaker 1: And then you got the Giants, who everyone is making

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Speaker 1: fun of in New York in other states, on every network,

480
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Speaker 1: on every podcast, everyone thinks they're gonna suck. I don't

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Speaker 1: care who you are, I don't care if you even

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Speaker 1: kind of believe what other people are saying. If you

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Speaker 1: have any ounce of pride, eventually you go you gotta

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Speaker 1: fight for like your pride and your ego a little bit.

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Speaker 1: So you get this team that's walking around cocky as shit, rightfully,

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Speaker 1: so I think the line's gonna be really good. And

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Speaker 1: then you get this team that everyone's bad mouthing, ain't

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Speaker 1: a soul that ain't outside of that building, and they're like,

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Speaker 1: we're tired of this crap, and that's why I think

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Speaker 1: they're just fighting NonStop. It's like the perfect combination, right.

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Speaker 1: I take your A lot of people listening right now

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Speaker 1: probably have dogs, and you go on dog walks, and

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Speaker 1: depending on where you live, maybe you got a park

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Speaker 1: or maybe you got like a grass area and it

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Speaker 1: tends to be a meetup. And there's nothing worse than

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Speaker 1: a dog walk meet up if you're just you're just

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Speaker 1: in a bad mood, or you get your ear pods

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Speaker 1: in you're like, I do not want to talk to anybody,

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Speaker 1: and then you run into the chatty cathy of the neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: And it happened to me yesterday. It's like, oh my,

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Speaker 1: I can't take it. I'm like, Lolly, please just take

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Speaker 1: off and let me chase it, but she's just sitting

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Speaker 1: there watching us. It's like, oh, this is awful. You

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Speaker 1: got to think of a great excuse on the fly.

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Speaker 1: Or you know, in Arizona it's so hot, you gotta

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Speaker 1: try to take your dog on a walk really early

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Speaker 1: in the morning. So if you go like five thirty

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Speaker 1: six or whatever to the to the grass or the

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Speaker 1: dog park or just the wherever you're going, and you

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Speaker 1: just have had your coffee yet. I don't mind getting

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Speaker 1: up early, but I'm not a morning person in the

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Speaker 1: sense of I'm not happy in the morning. So like,

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Speaker 1: just give me. I need a coffee, I need a couple,

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Speaker 1: uh need a couple of nicotine patches. Ideally get a workout,

515
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Speaker 1: but like, if that's my first I don't want to

516
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Speaker 1: talk that the soul and you can't avoid it. And

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Speaker 1: there's just an edginess to it. And I don't even

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Speaker 1: know where I was going with it, but I just

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Speaker 1: think there's just just an edginess to this group and

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Speaker 1: to both sides. And it was just a perfect company.

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Speaker 1: Oh I was gonna say, is you know there are

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Speaker 1: certain dogs? I was like, what was that? What was

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Speaker 1: the point of this story. It's because if you take

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Speaker 1: your you know, you get to know dog. Oh that's

525
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: a little sweetpea that's a little that's brody, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's that's a that's ah lily. You know, you get

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Speaker 1: to know all the dog, but there are a couple

528
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Speaker 1: of dogs you're like, you can't put the two together

529
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Speaker 1: because it's a brawl. And I think this is one

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Speaker 1: of those situations because I bet there are practices going

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Speaker 1: on that just fighting is just not gonna happen. And again,

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Speaker 1: there's a difference between a push and just all out

533
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Speaker 1: brawl after all out brawl, after all out brawl, after

534
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Speaker 1: all out brawl, And I just think it's pretty understandable

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Speaker 1: when you look at the plight of both these teams,

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Speaker 1: what's being said about each one, the way they carry themselves,

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Speaker 1: and the giants just kind of it's kind of fight

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Speaker 1: or flight, like you're just gonna take it and get embarrassed,

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Speaker 1: or you're gonna push back. And ideally in these situations,

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Speaker 1: no one breaks a hand or gets hurt because that

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Speaker 1: it's kind of pointless in a weird way, Like obviously

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Speaker 1: you want to see some fight in your guys, you

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Speaker 1: want to see them have an edge. Daniel Jones, I

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Speaker 1: thought Joe Shane run around one. It's it's very entertaining

545
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Speaker 1: but like big picture, like what are we getting out

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Speaker 1: of this? There's something about like supporting your quarterback or

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Speaker 1: supporting your running back or you know, being there for

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Speaker 1: your middle lineback or whatever. Totally, but there's also like

549
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Speaker 1: a fine line of like what productive happens after the

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Speaker 1: first shove? Only bad things can happen. Only an injury

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Speaker 1: can happen, a broken hand to like a dB or

552
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Speaker 1: something's pretty devastating. Oh, I don't know. I just all

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Speaker 1: I know is I really really enjoyed all the clips.

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Speaker 1: I can't get enough of them. I don't think I've

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Speaker 1: ever seen back to back practices with more viral clips

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Speaker 1: of fights. It feels like, at minimum Florio did an

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Speaker 1: article on Monday he had five clips. It's like here's

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Speaker 1: a clip, here's a clip. Here's Joe Shane in the clip.

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Speaker 1: Here's Daniel Jones in the clip. It was like it

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Speaker 1: was in like two sets of drills, and then I

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Speaker 1: saw more happen today. So Congress, those two teams for

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Speaker 1: entertaining us. Okay, let's do a little thing we call

563
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Speaker 1: the mailbag at John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff is the

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Speaker 1: Instagram firing those dms. Get your questions answered here on

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Speaker 1: the show. It's my Instagram. DM's wide open. You guys

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Speaker 1: know the drill. Let's start here with JT Sports. Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen is not better than Lamar. You make it seem

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Speaker 1: like Allen always plays well in the playoffs, when he

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Speaker 1: nearly gave the wild card game to the Dolphins with

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Speaker 1: Skyler Thompson with all those turnovers, then he played garbage

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Speaker 1: the following week and got embarrassed by the Bengals. He

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Speaker 1: also choked the fourth quarter of this past season against

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs Divisional round. But it's Sean mcdermot's fault. But

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Speaker 1: you put all the Ravens losses in the AFC Championship

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Speaker 1: on Lamar, but never talk about Zay Flowers fumble inside

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Speaker 1: the five that took away the game. Lamar is the

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Speaker 1: second best win loss record in the NFL since he's

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Speaker 1: been starting, right behind Mahomes, and the Ravens have had

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Speaker 1: the one seed twice when he's won the MVP. He's

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Speaker 1: also been a more efficient passer than Josh Allen is

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Speaker 1: a turnover machine. Lamar Jackson takes care of the ball.

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's not act like they both can't beat

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Speaker 1: Mahomes no matter who plays better. They both come up

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Speaker 1: short in the end. Well, here's my thing. I think

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen is better than Lamar Jackson. If you put

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen last year on the Ravens, who have had,

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Speaker 1: like you said, the number one seed, what happened once

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Speaker 1: they got worked by the Titans. Lamar was bad and

589
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: last year was embarrassing. The Chief scored seventeen points. Here

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Speaker 1: are the playoff stats for the two guys. If you

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Speaker 1: put Josh Allen on the Ravens these last five years,

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Speaker 1: I think they have a super Bowl. Josh Allen in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs sixty five percent, twenty one touchdowns, four interceptions,

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Speaker 1: and five touchdowns on the ground. He's played in ten

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Speaker 1: playoff games, partly because he's won more playoff games than Lamar.

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Speaker 1: Lamar in six six touchdowns, six picks, fifty seven percent

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Speaker 1: in three rushing touchdowns. The gap of these two guys

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Lamar is a fantastic regular season player.

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Speaker 1: So's James Harden. Who do you want to play in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs? James Harden? Now I don't think Lamar is

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Speaker 1: James Harden. He cares about football, he works hard at football.

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Speaker 1: I would want Lamar Jackson on my team. But this

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Speaker 1: is no longer an argument. We have objective facts. The

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Speaker 1: Ravens are a much better roster than the Bills. For example,

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Speaker 1: last year, losing that game, like you just don't shake

606
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: losing that Titans game a couple of years ago was

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Speaker 1: a fucking embarrassment. And the one quote unquote embarrassment by

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Speaker 1: the Bills was something Josh Allen had no control over

609
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Speaker 1: when he threw all those touchdowns on the road in

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Speaker 1: Kansas City and his defense blew it, and even Andy

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Speaker 1: Reid was like, yeah, this is unfair. Both teams should

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Speaker 1: touch the ball and that's what happens now. So we're

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Speaker 1: nitpicking the elite of the elite here. And I don't

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Speaker 1: think anyone could say with a straight face if you

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Speaker 1: gave every general manager who would you wanted your quarterback

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Speaker 1: for the next five years out of the thirty two guys,

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Speaker 1: I think the number would be close to thirty two

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Speaker 1: with Josh Allen. Now, Lamar would get picked over the

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Speaker 1: majority of other guys not named Josh Allen and Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: But give me a break, Like, we know what we've seen,

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Speaker 1: we have the stats, we've had the eye test. It

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Speaker 1: ain't fucking close. They're just not that close. Again, we're

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Speaker 1: nitpicking the best of the best here, the best of

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Speaker 1: the best. We do this a lot in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: It's why Steph Curry and Lebron James like they don't

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Speaker 1: have anything in common with Embiid and James Harden. They

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Speaker 1: both make hundreds of millions of dollars, have all these

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Speaker 1: all star games. Joel Embiid, you know, it's like the

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Speaker 1: gaps wide at the top of the mountain. It really is.

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Speaker 1: And Josh almost lost to Skyler. He didn't. He didn't lose.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's played more playoff games. Why they've won more.

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Speaker 1: And let's face it, you guys have had two of

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Speaker 1: the worst losses at home in the last five six

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Speaker 1: years in the playoffs, the Titans game and the heavy favorites.

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Speaker 1: Part of losing as a favorite is way worse. It

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Speaker 1: just is. Now. Yeah, that loss to the Bengals was bad.

637
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Speaker 1: No arguing that it was ugly. It really was. What happened.

638
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: Then the Bengals beat the Chiefs, I'd say, age pretty well.

639
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: They got worked, so did the defense, ran it right

640
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: down the throat. I don't think the notion that is

641
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: not it's just he's a better player. He's just a

642
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: better player. I don't know how else to verbalize it,

643
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: And that sounds like a criticism Lamark, Like he's a

644
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: fantastic player who's had an incredible start to his career,

645
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: but a win loss record. The Ravens have been winning

646
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: for twenty five years. Everyone wins there. Joe Flacco won there,

647
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: Trent Dilfer won there, like quarterbacks are gonna win now. Lamar,

648
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: I think, is a better player obviously than Joe Flacco.

649
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Speaker 1: But Joe Flacco had moments in the playoffs that Lamar

650
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: simply has not had yet. Now there's a lot of

651
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Speaker 1: career left, but I don't think. I don't know if

652
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: this Ravens team is going to be quite as good

653
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: as last year's team. Definitely not. I mean, they have

654
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: the best defense in the league. The Ravens should have

655
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: won both games by double digit points. They should have

656
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: beat the Chiefs, and they should have been the forty

657
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Speaker 1: nine ers. But you can say Dave Flowers fumble. Lamar

658
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: was fucking terrible. I mean he was skipping balls on

659
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Speaker 1: wheel routes, which, as we're judging, the highest level of competition,

660
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: go around the sports. When Rory blows it. When you know,

661
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: when high end basketball players blow it like they get

662
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: criticized extra hard. Why because the expectations are super high.

663
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Speaker 1: No one cares that to his average beside the Dolphins,

664
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Speaker 1: like we kind of know it. I've listened to Cowards

665
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: since the beginning my travel sales career, right around college.

666
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: I came across your pod and I really enjoy it.

667
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Speaker 1: He said, I'm your favorite, but I didn't want to

668
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: boost my ego here. I love how you discussed the

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Speaker 1: entire operation. My dream career has always been an NFL

670
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: front office back question as a scout, who is one mid,

671
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: late or underrated player you love for the Eagles. I

672
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: saw Joe Ortiz, who worked in the I mean I

673
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: only worked in the NFL for three years, but there

674
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: the day and age of like finding guys in the

675
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: seventies and eighties that no one knows about, and all

676
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Speaker 1: of a sudden it's like, how did they get this

677
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 1: diamond in the rough? Those don't exist? And when you're

678
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Speaker 1: in a draft meeting, I would say, and Joe Ortiz

679
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: was on Rich Eisen he put this pretty well. Every

680
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: player on the draft board, obviously the top one hundred guys,

681
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: six seven people watch them, your GM, your assistant GM,

682
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: your college director, multiple scouts, the position coach, the coordinator,

683
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Speaker 1: the head coach. So within seven eight guys, there's not

684
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Speaker 1: like I'm banging the table harder. They're gonna be three

685
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Speaker 1: or four. Let's say it's a polarizing player. Half are

686
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: gonna like them half or not. But there's not a

687
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Speaker 1: player on a draft board in the Internet era, definitely

688
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: the last fifteen plus years. That's like, how did you

689
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: find this dude from Texas State, Western East South? It

690
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: just doesn't happen. It really doesn't. So even though this

691
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Speaker 1: was tw eleven, twenty, twelve, thirteen, it wasn't like that. Honestly,

692
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: when I was at Fresno State. It was the same

693
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 1: thing in recruiting. By the time the Internet had really

694
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: blown up, and rivals and some of these different sites,

695
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: it's really really hard to get a diamond. And the

696
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: moment guys come on the radar, other people come sniffing

697
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: around and so many people talk, so I think I

698
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: hear what you're saying, and I think there are legendary

699
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: stories about like he was the only guy that saw

700
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: Mickey Mannle play in high school like those days are

701
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: so over, I mean so over. If there is a

702
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: player that comes off the draft board on a given

703
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: year and of every team in the league doesn't have

704
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: multiple grades on on them. Obviously, once you get to

705
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Speaker 1: the six seventh round, maybe your GM isn't super locked

706
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Speaker 1: in on every player, but your college director, your scouts,

707
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: a couple of coaches. It's an NFL building. Maybe they're

708
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: getting bigger, just in a football building in general, isn't

709
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Speaker 1: that big. You have whatever, how many coaches you have,

710
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: you know, some assistant coaches to the position coaches, you

711
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: have your coordinators. You got multiple scouts in different regions

712
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 1: right six seven four to six seven kind of range.

713
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Speaker 1: You have several executives, and you're all kind of watching

714
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Speaker 1: the guys. And the other thing is right around after

715
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Speaker 1: the combine, you do these things called cross checks. So

716
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Speaker 1: every scout. Some do it by regions, some do it

717
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: by position, some do it by if somehow they group it.

718
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Speaker 1: You have so many grades on a player, Now I

719
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: might like a player more than the GM, no different

720
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Speaker 1: than you might like a player on your team more

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Speaker 1: than your brother or your best friend. And you just

722
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: kind of talk it out right now when you're talking

723
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Speaker 1: as a fan or like we are in a podcast,

724
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Speaker 1: there's not really a resolution. But eventually when the board

725
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: is getting set, that's where there's one decision maker and

726
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Speaker 1: he goes, well, I think we should slot this guy here.

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of usually a combination of the GM

728
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Speaker 1: and the coach, right, but there's not There was one

729
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 1: guy and I've told this story Andrewson Dajo who played

730
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Speaker 1: in the league for a long time, but he was

731
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Speaker 1: playing for the Sacramento Mountain Lions, who was one of

732
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,919
Speaker 1: those leagues that happened for a year. I bet now

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Speaker 1: with the XFL and the UFL or whatever the hell

734
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Speaker 1: of the league's called, that would be the only area.

735
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Speaker 1: But in the draft, there's no like fourth round pick

736
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Speaker 1: that only I graded and I'm screaming for and no

737
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Speaker 1: one wants. It just doesn't work like that. Lately, I've

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Speaker 1: been hearing a lot of talk about stadium atmosphere. I've

739
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: been a Ravens fan since two thousand. When they won

740
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in two thousand and one, I was

741
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Speaker 1: about twelve years old at the time. With no local

742
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Speaker 1: NFL teams in LA, I'm going to my first Ravens

743
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Speaker 1: game in November facing the Chargers at Sofi Stadium. I

744
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: bought VIP tickets at the hundred level. We've got a

745
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: guy doing well in life. How can I maximize my

746
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: first game with VIP level access? Would it be easier

747
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: to get players to sign my jersey? You know, football

748
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: is a little different than like baseball, for example, I

749
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: remember being a kid, you wanted to get to the

750
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: yard early. Maybe I get Matt Williams to sign my ball,

751
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: Maybe jose Canseco will sign my glove. Right In football,

752
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: it's not as lax on game day. You have to

753
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 1: get there really early, when the guys are warming up

754
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: kind of in shorts and a T shirt and you're

755
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Speaker 1: at one hundred level. Means you can get to the

756
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Speaker 1: front of kind of the railing. I've never done that,

757
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Speaker 1: so I can't really speak to that. I would say

758
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: Sofi is pretty sweet and stadium. Some people hit me,

759
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: obviously Philly when they're goods a great atmosphere, the Ravens,

760
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: the Lions now, and I think we all agree for

761
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Speaker 1: the most part, the the atmospheres in the pros relative

762
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: like it's just impossible to compare to LSU, you know,

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Speaker 1: to compare to Michigan, Ohio State to compare to some

764
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Speaker 1: of these collegiate atmospheres. So Far someone hit me up said,

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Speaker 1: so far as atmosphere is awesome. It's the best stadium

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Speaker 1: I've ever been to. But part of having an awesome

767
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: atmosphere is it should be if you go to a

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Speaker 1: Chiefs game, right, if you go to a Ravens game,

769
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Speaker 1: if you go to a Packer game, if you go

770
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Speaker 1: to a Lions game. This year, it's gonna be the

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Speaker 1: overwhelming majority. I mean, honestly, should be well over ninety percent,

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Speaker 1: ninety five percent hometown. You go to an LSU night game,

773
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: it's it's or a Michigan game, it's their home crowd.

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Speaker 1: Not one hundred percent, but much closer to one hundred

775
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Speaker 1: than like eighty. And that adds to the atmosphere. When

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00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: you go to SOFI, it's kind of split. Obviously if

777
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: they play the forty nine Ers, but if they play

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, if they play the Steelers, if they played

779
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: the Packers, you're not even talking fifty to fifty. The

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00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: other team will take over the stadium. The Ravens. I

781
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: don't know if they'll be fifty fifty, but there's gonna

782
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Speaker 1: be a ton of Ravens fans there, so like, you

783
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Speaker 1: go to a Ravens home game, especially a big home game,

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Speaker 1: be all Ravens fans, and I would just have a

785
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: good time. I don't know about you, guys, but one

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Speaker 1: thing I always regret in my life is I went

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Speaker 1: to the Warriors Game seven against the Cavs when Lebron

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00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: beat them and brought the championship home to Cleveland, and

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Speaker 1: I got too drunk in the sense of I should

790
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: have just had at most of beer or two, but

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00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: I probably had about fifteen. And I kind of regretted

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00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: looking back of not just it was a historic moment,

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00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 1: you didn't you don't know going to a game, what's

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00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: gonna happen. I mean you do a little bit more

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Speaker 1: like a playoff game or situation like that. But listen,

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Speaker 1: I have no problem if you want to go to

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00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: a game and get and get you know, get housed.

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00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: But I kind of regret that. And I've always gone

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Speaker 1: to games. I'm not a big like boozer. If I'm

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Speaker 1: going to a sweet game, I'll have a cocktail maybe,

801
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 1: but I would enjoy it. You want to be able

802
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: to remember everything that happened, like in one hundred level.

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Speaker 1: You're living well. I have a question for the mailbag.

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Speaker 1: Rather than preseason of extending the season, why do you

805
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: think of having a knockout Cup tournament as a second

806
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: trophy to win the NFL? You already have the perfect

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00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: number of teams thirty two, meaning it would be a

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00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 1: five round knockout all team ender enter in a random

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Speaker 1: draw and the winner stays until the final, with the

810
00:43:55,640 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 1: winner getting the trophy. Well, that the problem. It'd probably

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Speaker 1: be incredible year one. But what's the point of the

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00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: regular season, right? You just had a random draw. So

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Speaker 1: let's say you had a fifteen seventeen games at whatever

814
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: this season was. Why does it matter where you finish?

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Speaker 1: Because you could finish sixteen and one and play a

816
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: team with three wins, what if they beat you? Why

817
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: does that team get rewarded for being terrible? I think

818
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: there's a pushback. You know, are they letting too many

819
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Speaker 1: teams in the playoffs? I think that's a pushback in

820
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: sports in general. Right Baseball expanded their playoffs. It used

821
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 1: to be a really big deal to we won the Petnitt.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think if you ask the average like

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Speaker 1: twenty six year old in America, that like sports, what

824
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Speaker 1: it means to win the Pennant. They'd have absolutely no clue.

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Speaker 1: And they've expanded the playoffs obviously by a bunch of

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Speaker 1: wildcard teams. The NBA has a playing they've added four

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Speaker 1: total teams, obviously, the NFL added two total teams. Now

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Speaker 1: I get the other side. This is business. You're trying

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Speaker 1: to drive revenue, and the revenue is driven by the games.

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Speaker 1: So I understand it, but I wouldn't be in favor

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Speaker 1: of doing that. I like you thinking outside the box. Listen,

832
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: there are no stupid questions, just stupid people, and you're

833
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: not one of them. Clearly, you cannot win a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl without a top six to eight quarterback or a

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Speaker 1: stacked roster and a good quarterback on a rookie contract.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think teams who do not have a

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Speaker 1: top six or eight quarterback sign their quarterbacks to massive

838
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: extensions Dolphins now Cowboys in the recent past. Do you

839
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Speaker 1: think it would be better to stay mediocre but somewhat

840
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: relevant with a middle tier quarterback or let go of

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00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: them and bottom out for the chance of getting a

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00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: top quarterback, most likely in the draft. If you were

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00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: an NFLGM faced in a situation like this, would you

844
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: lose your other star players if bottoming out were to occur.

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Speaker 1: Where is the starting point to build up a Super

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00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: Bowl contending team coach, owner? I think it's very, very difficult.

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00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: And one major difference which is clearly benefited football is

848
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: tanking is not really a big thing. No one really tanks.

849
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: It's happened really one time. I would say, it feels

850
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: like over the last fifteen years, I'm not going to

851
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: start to finish tank like the Browns attempted to pull.

852
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: I have no problem ever tanking in December if you

853
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: have a couple wins, I'm all for, like controlling your

854
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 1: own destiny at that point. But I don't think there's

855
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: a team in the league if you talk to the

856
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: owner and coach. Clearly some teams know they're not as

857
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: good as others that don't plan on, Hey we might

858
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: not win the super Bowl, but can we get eight wins?

859
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,479
Speaker 1: Because winning in foot ball is a really big deal,

860
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: and when you start losing, you become a relevant so fast.

861
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: And the draft is a pretty big crap shoot. Like

862
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: for as much hype as there is on all these quarterbacks,

863
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: Caleb included, I'm recording this before hard Knocks, I saw

864
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: almost say Greg Olsen, but it was zach Ertz. I'd

865
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: forgotten he was on the Commanders, but he said, stop saying.

866
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels is gonna be good. He's good right now.

867
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: And the hype on Jaden, on Caleb on who else

868
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: Drake's the hype's not very big, and Pennexus on the

869
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 1: bench bo Nicks' third string. But I think on those

870
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 1: two guys that we know historically like, it doesn't work out.

871
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: It just doesn't like more than likely, Caleb or Jaden

872
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: Daniels is just not gonna be good. History tells us

873
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: that if you just pick those two players, the likelihood

874
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: that both those guys are like ah, both top ten

875
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks very very rare. So just because you have height prospects,

876
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: there's no you just never know. So I would do

877
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 1: what basically every other GM does, try to win desperately. Now,

878
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: once you're not winning, pivot sell players at the trade deadline.

879
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 1: But I would do everything in my humanly possible to win.

880
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: And I think winning, you know, really starts with the owner.

881
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: Is he willing to pay? Is he willing to cut

882
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: big checks for your own guys in free agency? Does

883
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: he give you the green light to be aggressive in

884
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: the draft, does he support your staff? Does he give

885
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: you the most money to hire assistant coaches? So it

886
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 1: starts there with his checkbook, and does he not meddle?

887
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: I mean, if he's telling you who to draft and

888
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: who to sign and who to hire, then you're gonna

889
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: have problems. And then obviously the impact of the coach

890
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: is there's not a sport like it, right, especially if

891
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: you get the right coach who also calls plays. The

892
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: impact he can have is just second to none based

893
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: on basically every other sport. So I think you just

894
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: try to win, you really do. Now, I think there

895
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: are situations where you go, can we play this out

896
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: another year? And that's where I think there's a balance, right.

897
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: I wouldn't if I ran the Dolphins, I wouldn't cut Toua.

898
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't trade him for nothing, But I'd go, can

899
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: we just play it out another year? Wasn't not on

900
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: his fifth year option? Wasn't his scheduled to pay him

901
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: well over twenty million dollars. Couldn't we just go let's

902
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: just see this year, this was a big year. Let's

903
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: just see how it goes. I'm never opposed to letting

904
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 1: it play out, gain more information. Like we've been winning,

905
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: so the owner's kind of happy, right, we've made the

906
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: playoffs a couple times. But what's the rush to kind

907
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: of hitch my wagon as an executive as a coach

908
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 1: to a player that I can't totally trust. I get

909
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: Dak more than TOA. I just don't get to A.

910
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: I don't. I let me rephrase that. I mean I

911
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: get two of the player. I don't get signing him

912
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: to the extension right now, I don't. His agent can

913
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: be pissed all he wants to, like, what's two are

914
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: gonna do? Like to it?

915
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 2: You play?

916
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: Well, you're looking at a two hundred million dollar pay

917
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: day and if if some reason, the Dolphins don't watch it,

918
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: three or four teams will be lined up go win

919
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: a couple of playoff games. We just talked about Lamar,

920
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: you know he struggles to do that using my girlfriend's

921
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 1: Instagram huge huge Hawks fan from Tennessee. Cool part about

922
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: I guess this is true in all sports. But you

923
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: meet people all over the country that are fans of

924
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: teams from other places. It's always cool, and it always uh.

925
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 1: I just I have a soft spot for that. Even

926
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: though I hate them immensely, I also have a huge

927
00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: respect for them. My question is about the Niners. To

928
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: do what they've been able to do consistently for the

929
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: past five years is something that I respect. You think

930
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: after five long years battling to get back to the

931
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: Super Bowl only to get back to lose in similar

932
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 1: fashion of the same team will take a toll on

933
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: them mentally. I know everybody's expecting them to run it back,

934
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: and rightfully so, but could you see them having a

935
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: similar season to the Rams the season after their Super

936
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: Bowl win a couple of years ago. With the constant

937
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: heartbreaks this team has gone through and the amount of

938
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: noise and chatter coming out of their locker room, it

939
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: seems plausible to me this could happen, considering they have

940
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: a lot of older key players. Well, if you remember

941
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: the Rams season when they fell apart, one main reason

942
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: was Matt Staffer got injured. If Brock Purdy were to

943
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: get injured and they would have to go to Joshua

944
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 1: Dobbs and Kyle Allen, who's definitely not josh Allen, they

945
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: would be in made your trouble if you told me

946
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: Purty has a major injury or misses a month or something,

947
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: they would be screwed. So I would say that they

948
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: just have too much talent on their roster. If Purdy's playing,

949
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: the other thing is their coach. Again, this goes to

950
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: party and the same with Stafford. If mcveigh's there and

951
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: Kyle's there and they have a good quarterback, they're just

952
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: gonna be good. They're gonna be competitive. Now, you never

953
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: know with injuries. I think they wear and tear. You know,

954
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: Kyle's like most teams, the OTAs are a joke. I

955
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: mean they really are in the Niners for training camp.

956
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: Like Bosa McCaffrey technically is injured right now, but Trent Williams,

957
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: these guys practice like twice a week so that they

958
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: get treated pretty well. That this is not the junction boys,

959
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: Bear Bryant. That's where I think it could wear you down.

960
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: I think if you make all these runs and you

961
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: know the rules that used to be hitting the double days,

962
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: you just kind of run out of juice. I don't

963
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: think he do anymore, especially when you have guys under thirty.

964
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: It's like Tesla. You know, you just recharge it and

965
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 1: you just hope the charger doesn't catch on fire and

966
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: burn your house out. Last episode, I heard you say

967
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: you think Jaden Daniels could struggle in Washington, part due

968
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: to him having a defensive head coach in dan Quint.

969
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: But didn't Cliff Kingsbury walk away from a deal with

970
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: Vegas to come to DC. Washington had to have to

971
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: know Jaden was gonna be theirs with a second overall pick.

972
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 1: Cliff has coached up many successful quarterbacks, especially Mobile Ones Caleb.

973
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: I think Jayden is in a better situation. I know

974
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: Jaden had neighbors in college, but he will have scary

975
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: Terry and zach Ertz. So my question is, do you

976
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: think Shane Waldron is a better oca than Cliff? Secondly,

977
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: do you think Milik Neighbors will be a better pro

978
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: than Terry McLaurin. Malik Neighbors is more talented then Terry.

979
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: If Malik Neighbors hits, you're looking at like a more

980
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: physical Odell Beckham in the in his prime. I mean,

981
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: you're looking at an elite player if he hits, but

982
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: you never know. It's football, Daniel Jones, I wouldn't bet

983
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: on it, but Malik Neighbors. The highlights come out of

984
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: Giants Camp. I mean he's got it. He's got Jamar

985
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 1: Chase physicality, but the high end speed, the ball skills.

986
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a pretty special talent. Terry's a really

987
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: good player. I mean, Malik has the upside. Terry's an

988
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: excellent player, but I don't think most people, nobody considers

989
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: him like a top five or six white out in

990
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: the league. Malik Neighbors if it works out in like

991
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: three or four years, could be right up there with

992
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,479
Speaker 1: the best in the NFL at the position. But that's

993
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: a big if. I would say Shane Waldron, I like

994
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 1: that style of offense. I don't like Cliff's style of offense.

995
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: It's not for me. We talked about this the other day.

996
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: You're just kind of of a product of what you know,

997
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: being around Pat Hill, old school offense, Jim Harbaugh, and

998
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: he throws it more, but there's a physical edge to him.

999
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: Cliff's not my cup of tea when it comes to football.

1000
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: But like you said, like he is Taylor made for

1001
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: guys like Jayden. I think comparing him to Kyler, who

1002
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: talking with my guy from Fantasy Pros yesterday, Pat Fitzmorris,

1003
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: Kyler's one of the more talented prospects in recent memory. Like,

1004
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: I don't think Jaden's is talented him. One, he's not

1005
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: as fast. Two he's not as elusive. Kyler has an

1006
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: elite arm. He's just now. Obviously Jayden's taller, but that's

1007
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 1: the only thing that Jaden Daniels has over Kyler. He's taller.

1008
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: Kyler does everything better to me if Jaden Daniels becomes

1009
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. Washington's in really really good shape. And when

1010
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 1: I say struggle, I just don't think they're teams that good.

1011
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a big, big struggle and

1012
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: the division's good. Like we nitpicked the Cowboys, they're dramatically

1013
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 1: better than Washington. Obviously the Eagles are, and the Giants

1014
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,280
Speaker 1: are pretty good on defense. So Washington's O line sucks,

1015
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: and what are the Giants good at defensive line? So

1016
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: I also think I get very concerned with players, and

1017
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm not anti Jayden Daniels, but when you have a skill,

1018
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: people think I'm sure I'd hate Lamar. I do not.

1019
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: I think Lamar is an awesome player. No guys that

1020
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: have been around him, the character stuff, I love everything

1021
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: I've ever heard about the guy and one thing Lamar

1022
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: does a really good job of is when he runs

1023
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: around avoiding hits, partly because he's so elusive and so fast,

1024
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: but he doesn't take a lot of huge shots. When

1025
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: I was with the Eagles, Michael Vick was probably the

1026
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 1: worst in NFL history at avoiding hits. Honestly, he like

1027
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: like looked like he was looking for him and he

1028
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: got injured a lot. And we talked about this yesterday

1029
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: on the Fancy Podcast. Jayden took shots shots in college

1030
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: and the SEC's you know, the light version of the

1031
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: NFL obviously elite defensive players, and they played Florida State

1032
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: and he got crushed there too. You can't do that,

1033
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 1: But I think that's a hard skill to teach. Either

1034
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: kind of have it or you don't. And I think

1035
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: Kyler's pretty good at this too, And again part of

1036
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: it their skill set that they're a little more explosive

1037
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: than Jayden. Laterally, there's just like an innate quality with

1038
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: them to kind of know. I feel like Jayden is

1039
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: a good athlete, clearly, but you watch him run around,

1040
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: I just maybe there's a combination of fearlessness and just

1041
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: the instincts of avoiding that just don't exist like they

1042
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: do for Lamar and Kyler. But saying that Cliff made

1043
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: Kyler a great player, Kyler's a better player. He was

1044
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: a better player coming out of college. I think if

1045
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: Kyler was in this draft, Washington would have taken him

1046
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: too over Jayden Daniels if he was coming out of Oklahoma

1047
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: and he was coming out of LSU. Say what you

1048
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: want about Kyler in the video games, I will never

1049
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,919
Speaker 1: dispute his ability because when he gets humming, holy shit,

1050
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: he's fun to watch because he's just an elite. He's

1051
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: an elite talent. I don't know if Jaden Daniel is

1052
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: an elite town He's a really good prospect. I mean

1053
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: the only knock on Kyler was height, which is a

1054
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: big knock. I mean he's really small, but elite arm.

1055
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: He's actually pretty accurate, elite speed, elite elusiveness, elite scramble

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00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: and throw ability. As the quarterbacks are getting paid, I

1057
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: tend to really project what they can do with the

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00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: team around them. If you had to guarantee one of

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00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: these guys Love Hurts, Golf or Lamar will win the

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00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: Super Bowl in the next five years, who would it be.

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00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: It's a good question. I'm sorry Ravens fans, but until

1062
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 1: Lamar approves me, otherwise, you can't bet on him because

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00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: I've seen him with the best of the best team

1064
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: and can't get it done. Goff, their team is pretty stacked.

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00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: This year is kind of wide open for him. I

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00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: would say they got a pretty good chance this year

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00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: to get to the super Bowl. If you get to

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00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, you can win it. I would say

1069
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: something similar to Jalen Hurts. I mean, their team's pretty

1070
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: good on paper right now. I would say the difference

1071
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: to Jalen and Jared is Jared's had the same coordinator

1072
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: for his whole career in Detroit, really, so advantage Jared.

1073
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: Goff there to me, Jordan Love. Until I see the

1074
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: Packers defense good, you just they can't win with the

1075
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: way they've been playing defense. Now clear they may have changed,

1076
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: but until we see it on Sundays, you just never know.

1077
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: Because we thought they'd be better on defense some years

1078
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: and it just didn't materialize. So if I had to

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00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: rank it, I would go golf. Jalen one A and

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00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: one B. Both guys have been to a Super Bowl,

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00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: so they've proven they can get there. They've won playoff

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00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 1: games Lamar two and Jordan Love three. I'm not saying

1083
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: Jordan Love can't do it. We saw him play well,

1084
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: but you can't make these runs if your defense is

1085
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: shitty and the packers. To me, the pressure is not

1086
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: on the offense. And really, Jordan Love this year, I

1087
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be fine. It's like, can you go

1088
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: toe to toe with some of these other physical defenses.

1089
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: Just recently been getting into golf and going out playing

1090
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: with buddies. Any recommendations for someone starting out, have a

1091
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 1: good time, enjoy yourself, have some beers, get you know,

1092
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 1: play five dollars aside. I'd say practice, but you're not

1093
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: a pro. Practicing sucks. Let's go play, have fun. And

1094
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: if you really get into it and you suck, I mean,

1095
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: maybe find a guy around where you live and get

1096
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: a lesson. Fan from Australia actually just read on the

1097
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: New York Post that this guy was on a camping

1098
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: trip next to way where the biggest crocs in Australia live,

1099
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: and fell into the water and his wife was reaching

1100
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: down to help him out and she was only lifeline

1101
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: out but she started to slip too, so he let

1102
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: go of her hand. Because he didn't want to drag

1103
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: her in and obviously got eaten. And they found and

1104
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: euthanized the croc, and the croc was sixteen feet long.

1105
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this, if you were gonna go down,

1106
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 1: would you rather get eaten by a crocodile or a shark? Now,

1107
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 1: the thing with the crocodile, they're gonna eat you. The shark,

1108
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: you're just gonna bleed to death because it bites you

1109
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: and you're not a seal. But that initial bite and

1110
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: the power of the shark and then just beat out

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01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: there in the water. Tough question to ask or answer.

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01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the crocodile would be worse.

1113
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: I really in a river or some grimy lake, which

1114
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: just crocodile's chomping on you, doing the spin, ripping your

1115
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: bones apart. At least Jaws just takes one bite and

1116
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 1: then takes off. Listen to your convo with Jake Rosenberg

1117
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 1: made me think Kirk cousins contract of one hundred and

1118
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: eighty million with fifty million dollars signing bones. Could that

1119
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 1: mean after this year he might have around three years

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01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: one hundred million left of owing, assuming he is healthy

1121
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: post Achilles. Would that become an attractive to a trading team.

1122
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: I know Atlanta would have a big dead cap, but

1123
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: could they expect a decent draft compensation as a trading

1124
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: team with Cousins three years one hundred million dollars left

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01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: owing sounds a lot more attractive than two hundred millions

1126
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: for four years that people are talking with Dak Prescott. Well,

1127
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 1: there are a couple of variables here. Kirk Cousins is

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01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 1: a no trade clause. But if they were gonna bench

1129
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 1: him and go with Pennix, that would get waived. You'd

1130
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: have to look. One thing Jake talked about is the

1131
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: way cash goes. So if over the next I don't

1132
01:02:55,640 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: know six months, the Falcons have paid, let's just pick number,

1133
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 1: because I think ninety guaranteed. Let's say they've paid, I'm guessing,

1134
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: I don't know the contract in front of me, seventy

1135
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: of it. You're not on the hook for that much

1136
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: as the trading team now his value. If you're benching him,

1137
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 1: the question would be why so did he get benched?

1138
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: Because you're just you're kind of doing a far of

1139
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 1: Rogers or Rogers love. I know Rogers didn't get bench,

1140
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, you just like we

1141
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: think this guy's gonna be better Mahomes Alex Smith. Let's

1142
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 1: just pivot. If that's the case, and he's played well

1143
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 1: and you guys won ten games and we're in a

1144
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 1: playoff game and won the division, he would have value.

1145
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 1: If you're going to penix because he doesn't look as

1146
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: good as he's looked, then I don't think he has

1147
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: as much value at all. Doesn't mean you can't unload

1148
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: the contract, but I don't think he would get any

1149
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: trade compensation of any importance. Question for the mailbag, what's

1150
01:03:56,720 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 1: your take on fantasy football? Do you participate in any leagues?

1151
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: Do you think their popularity will decline due to the

1152
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 1: vast legalization of sports betting full transparency. I've never been

1153
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: a big fantasy guy. I've never played. Maybe I did

1154
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 1: play in one league one time, like the radio station,

1155
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: I mean a decade ago. It's never been my thing.

1156
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 1: For whatever reason now I have When I lived in

1157
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: California and DraftKings kind of came on the scene, remember

1158
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: the year when DraftKings and fan Duel DraftKings podcast. So

1159
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: pretend I didn't even say that other name. We're just

1160
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 1: every other ad. It was incredible. I mean they spent

1161
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 1: a lot of coin early on. Well, obviously gambling wasn't

1162
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 1: It wasn't legal then anywhere beside the like Vegas or whatever.

1163
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 1: But you could play daily fantasy. And I used to

1164
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: play that all the time. And I don't. I'll dabble,

1165
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: like play some five ten dollars daily fantasy games on

1166
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 1: a given week just to be entertained. But I don't

1167
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: play leagues like the fantasy pros guys like a lot

1168
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 1: of you guys, you know, Matt berry Field, g Eight's

1169
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 1: all those guys. I the thing with gambling, and I

1170
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: do agree that over the next decade, because ultimately what

1171
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: fantasy is. I think fantasy brings an element that gambling doesn't.

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01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: I know some guys that play in leagues that are

1173
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 1: like thousand dollars buy ins. Obviously there are some legendary

1174
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 1: leagues with multi millionaires. Some of you guys playing leagues

1175
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: that I don't know, one hundred dollars buy it. Whatever

1176
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: the buy in is. There is a communal play with

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01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 1: your friends aspect. I do think the older you get,

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01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 1: you get married, you have kids, it is it can

1179
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 1: be more. It's easier to gamble. It's easier to like,

1180
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 1: goh shit, I kind of like this team plus four

1181
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 1: this week. Then to set your line up, follow it

1182
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 1: waiver Wire. I think it's it's it's tailor made for

1183
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: younger dudes with less time or more time and less

1184
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: things going on. I do think it gets more difficult,

1185
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: which is where gambling comes in. Which also the older

1186
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 1: you get, ideally you should have a little more money,

1187
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 1: easier to get involve. So I think fantasy football has

1188
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: played a huge, huge role in the casual popularity of

1189
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 1: the NFL. But to me, it's like, and this is

1190
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 1: no disrespect because I respect it because I know it's

1191
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: important to the game that I love and all of

1192
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: us love to watch and talk about. As gambling gets

1193
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: bigger and bigger, it's gonna feel this is a guess,

1194
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 1: a little like JV vers Varsity. Now, that doesn't mean

1195
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: fantasy is gonna go away. It doesn't mean that these

1196
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 1: leagues are gonna stop. But I do think that gambling

1197
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: is just It's always been important to football. It's the

1198
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 1: sport that we gamble on first and foremost in this country.

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Speaker 1: But the access has been difficult. I mean, you could

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01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: have a bookie trust me. I've made some payments in

1201
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 1: the back of a Burger King parking lot, but those

1202
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 1: days are kind of over. And the ability to do

1203
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: everything on our phone, you just don't have to follow

1204
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 1: as much. I think part of fantasy what makes it

1205
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: difficult is if you have like you're an accountant or

1206
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 1: your doctor or whatever, and you love football, it can

1207
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: be difficult. And how often do you hear, especially people

1208
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 1: my age, like once you get in your late thirties forties,

1209
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 1: like I didn't even know this guy was injured. I

1210
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 1: didn't have a quarterback this week. I think that happens

1211
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 1: more and more, and I think those guys kind of

1212
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: phase out and get more into gambling. But the element

1213
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 1: of doing it with your buddies, there's nothing like that, right,

1214
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what's the point of living if you

1215
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 1: can't have some activities with your close friends or your close colleagues.

1216
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: So that's something that gambling. Let's face. When I gamble,

1217
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 1: I like to watch the game by myself and pace around.

1218
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 1: It's a very isolated act where fantasy, if you're in

1219
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 1: a league, is much more communal. Right, you can be

1220
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: on a text chain with everybody, so that there are

1221
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 1: elements that gambling can never quite bring to the table.

1222
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 1: But I do think there are elements of I mean,

1223
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: you can win, you name the price, depending on what

1224
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: you're willing to bet in four hours. That's not really

1225
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 1: the way fantasy works. Daily fantasy works that way. But yeah,

1226
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 1: we'll end on that one. That was a good question,

1227
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: So respect to my fantasy people, I think it's difficult.

1228
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 1: The hard part for me is the way we talk

1229
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 1: about football, the importance of football, and then you get

1230
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:24,839
Speaker 1: to fantasy and the running back is the most important

1231
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: player and I get it, the way it's scored and everything.

1232
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 1: That always threw me off. I guess it was a

1233
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 1: little more normal back and like if you're playing in

1234
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 1: two thousand and two, but always talk about now as

1235
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. They're all making the most money. They clearly

1236
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 1: are the most important player on a given team to

1237
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,680
Speaker 1: have success, that guy has to play well for you

1238
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 1: to succeed. And it's like, hey, you get this guy,

1239
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 1: you get like Jared Goff, you know, on the whatever

1240
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: round I think you do with just a pro bowler

1241
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: and you're taking his backup running back over him. I

1242
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 1: don't know if that's the case. You know what I mean,

1243
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 1: but it is what it is. It's always been that way.

1244
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,600
Speaker 1: I know this. It's fantasy for podcasts, the do we

1245
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 1: add on for fantasy pros. It's a big business. It

1246
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 1: is so I you're a big business. You're doing a

1247
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 1: shitload of downloads, your top ten podcasts, and you're making

1248
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 1: I respect you. I don't do it, but it doesn't

1249
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: mean I don't respect it right Like I'm not. I'm

1250
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 1: not ordering every UFC fight. I have nothing but admiration

1251
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 1: for Dana in that business and what they've built. It's

1252
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:31,799
Speaker 1: fucking incredible. Hell, I loved wrestling growing up, like probably

1253
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 1: a lot of people boys my age. Because of Stone

1254
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 1: Cold in the Rock, I do not watch it anymore.

1255
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 1: I have a lot of admiration for the way that

1256
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 1: business operates. You know, Vince Obviously it's got some shit

1257
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 1: going on, but Triple H and every time I see

1258
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: him and Collins old Agent Nick con like, that thing's

1259
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 1: a big boy business for a reason. It's a well

1260
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 1: run thing. I don't watch it, but I'm not one

1261
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: of those people that doesn't respect the following, the interest

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Speaker 1: in the revenue capabilities they have and just the bohemoth

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Speaker 1: that has been built. Uh, and it's continuing to roll,

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Speaker 1: you know, keep the train on the tracks, you know,

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Speaker 1: rolling on down, no slowing down. It's impressive in fantasy

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Speaker 1: kind of feels kind of similar. It's it's it's big,

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Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's massive. I'm an outlier. I do

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Speaker 1: all this stuff with football, talk about football, watch football

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Speaker 1: for a living. I'm just don't play the volume.