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Speaker 1: doing all right? How about you? We're doing good. Um.

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Speaker 1: We've been calling yesterday a signature win all morning. Is

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Speaker 1: if so, was it yesterday? Well, it's always good to win. Um.

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Speaker 1: Every win brings its own as its own dynamics and highlights.

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Speaker 1: Let's call it. So. Um, there were some things we

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Speaker 1: other things that we need to improve on, but UM,

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Speaker 1: I thought there were some areas that we we're good in.

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Speaker 1: Some areas we were inconsistent in. Um, but we'll learn

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Speaker 1: from all of them. And yes, so try to try

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Speaker 1: to get string days together here. Bill. One of the

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Speaker 1: So it was a big drive, UM. But we still

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, where you challenge that play, Well, what was

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Speaker 1: What did you think happened? And what were you guys

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Speaker 1: if it was trying to challenge whether it was a

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Speaker 1: holding in the end zone, possibly a safety. Yeah, well

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what I thought it was. So, I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously I'm made a mistake on that. I saw the

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Speaker 1: play and I saw the tackle seventy four Norton hold

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Speaker 1: I thought he held him in the end zone. Kyle

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Speaker 1: He tried to fold back towards the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 1: and Norton grabbed him and thought it was clearly in

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Speaker 1: the end Um they actually called the holding penalty, though

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Speaker 1: Um actually called the holding penalty on feeler Um, which

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Speaker 1: but I thought it was a hold on Norton, and

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Speaker 1: so UM I didn't get the Knout didn't get the

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Speaker 1: number rushes. I should have been more detailed. I found

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Speaker 1: out the holding was on who it was on. I

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Speaker 1: thought it was on Norton, but it was on Feeler.

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Speaker 1: Feeler clearly held on the four yard line. So there's

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Speaker 1: no question about that. UM. So, you know, should Norton

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Speaker 1: So I guess not that that was you know, that

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Speaker 1: was really a mistake on my part. And and play

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Speaker 1: would be a significant play if if it was a safety. UM.

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Speaker 1: But it was a It was a mistake. It was

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Speaker 1: a waste to challenge. You. At least we now know

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Speaker 1: what was going for the mind of Bill Belichick. That's

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Speaker 1: what it was. Yeah, that's what it was. It was

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Speaker 1: big impact on the game. I was turned out. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know all as well, that ends well, but that's

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Speaker 1: the next time that probably would would not work out

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Speaker 1: in our favor and just playing the odds. Celebrate that

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Speaker 1: win with another cold beer with a good night's sleep.

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Speaker 1: We're um, you know, we watched the film last night

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Speaker 1: and uh, the players are working out this morning. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a short meeting here this morning and then

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Speaker 1: um head back and we'll be grinding on Carroll on

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Speaker 1: a all day. And again that's a team we don't

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Speaker 1: know very well. Coaching changed since the last time we

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Speaker 1: played on. Coach Wool's got a whole you know. Uh,

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Speaker 1: but again the work to do on the team. So

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Speaker 1: we'll spend all day here and be ready to go.

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Speaker 1: All right, So good night's rest last night was good

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Speaker 1: for all of this. We usually didn't have, don't have

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Speaker 1: have it. Um have the opportunity to do it this time. Well,

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Speaker 1: we can't get we can't get by on just a

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Speaker 1: couple of hours sleep, Like Wiggy can't he's got that

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Speaker 1: that famino that um some others are not blessed with well,

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Speaker 1: I remember some coach telling me, say, don't let your

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Speaker 1: night job affect your day job. So there's one guy

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Speaker 1: down there Carolina that you guys might know. Well, we're

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Speaker 1: number nine, had a pretty good game against a Lama,

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Speaker 1: so you do a little research on him. That was

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Speaker 1: a lot a good player. And they're well balanced team

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Speaker 1: on all defense, special teams. We love Greaty for everything.

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Speaker 1: Uh set the Billington and you know, as I said

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, so um, yeah, well we'll

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Speaker 1: have to do a good job against you know, against everybody,

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Speaker 1: but again playing players, playing against players or coaches I

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Speaker 1: it is all right, Bil, great to talk to you,

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Speaker 1: and uh save trip backawool and h enjoy talking to

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Speaker 1: me in next Monday. Yeah that's good. Great were you

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Speaker 1: guys before we sign off? Just want to you know, say,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you know how much we're all gonna um

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Speaker 1: you know, are sad and by Jerry's passing and and

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Speaker 1: was to the fans, and um remember so much to

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Speaker 1: miss him. And uh, I know our fans are Jeremy

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Speaker 1: out to the Rammy family and and uh I want

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Speaker 1: to express my and all of our appreciation for all

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Speaker 1: that he did, you know, to make Boston sports enjoyable

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Speaker 1: we'll certainly miss him. All right, Bill, well said, thank

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Speaker 1: you very much, and we'll talk to you again coming

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Speaker 1: up on Monday. All right, sounds good, great, Well, you

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Speaker 1: have a good one, all right later. All right, there

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Speaker 1: he is, Bill Belichick.