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Speaker 5: Nate?
Speaker 1: What'd you do in the bed? By eight?
Speaker 6: They're sleep by ten? Up at twelve? All the guns popping?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh they shooting five crackers? I said, there's a
Speaker 1: few guns. Lucky in the house, Kurt, pretty.
Speaker 5: Quiet home watching movies. Didn't do much.
Speaker 3: And what movies do you watch?
Speaker 7: That's Saturday Night Live one, the one that talked about
Speaker 7: the beginning first show.
Speaker 1: So I hadn't heard about that. It's good, sorry, Jesse Church.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all night, all night till what time to twelve?
Speaker 5: Wow?
Speaker 3: Really? Church to twelve?
Speaker 1: That's twelve to twelve, the house and the trouble over
Speaker 1: the twelve? What did you do? I?
Speaker 3: Gray was asleep at eight thirty. I thought he was
Speaker 3: going to wake up before midnight. He woke up at
Speaker 3: three thirty. So I played video games till three thirty
Speaker 3: and then we went back to sleep.
Speaker 1: So you know what, man did? You'll tell each other
Speaker 1: howpy new you own a game? Like why game?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 8: They so if you were playing the game? Nobody so
Speaker 8: many something at midnight?
Speaker 3: Backpack buddy, somebody we got a new owner of the backpack.
Speaker 3: Who he's upstairs?
Speaker 9: Okay, yeah, yeah, But if you were playing in the game,
Speaker 9: if you were in Fortnite in different time zones, every midnight,
Speaker 9: no matter what you were doing.
Speaker 3: Your guy would You could be in a battle and
Speaker 3: your guy would lock up and a disco ball would
Speaker 3: light up over his head and he would start dancing
Speaker 3: and fireworks would go off for about what five or
Speaker 3: ten seconds? Chris, Yeah, about and then whatever you were doing,
Speaker 3: you go rock that's dope.
Speaker 1: The top of my clothing line. Yes, you look nice.
Speaker 6: He had a clothes line at one point time. Yeah,
Speaker 6: this is clothing is what color is. But yeah, black
Speaker 6: clothing line. You can't see us.
Speaker 4: But he actually did have a clothes little We were
Speaker 4: actually dressed and when if you go back in the show,
Speaker 4: any clothes that we were dressed in outside of the
Speaker 4: uniform workout stuff was Michael Line yep?
Speaker 7: Interesting?
Speaker 3: Well, well with the old year, he saw the departure
Speaker 3: of his boy cowboy great Ezekiel Elliott for the second
Speaker 3: time asked for his release. I'm assuming he did that
Speaker 3: in case somebody wanted to pick him up going into
Speaker 3: the playoffs, right, he wasn't gonna be around here?
Speaker 1: Is that? What is that?
Speaker 3: What happens?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not sure who would pick him up? Commanders?
Speaker 1: You know what? You know what, at least.
Speaker 6: Everybody is going along with the same line. Yes, at
Speaker 6: least everybody's.
Speaker 1: Fellas the company.
Speaker 6: We did not make the playoffs because we were not
Speaker 6: a very good team. It ain't like this dude is
Speaker 6: Joe Burrows?
Speaker 8: Okay, so he if he could have changed his scene, well,
Speaker 8: the reality is you were.
Speaker 3: Second slash third stream.
Speaker 10: Running back on a come That's what I'm not good,
Speaker 10: thank you, And I'm saying to myself, finally got cured.
Speaker 7: Have had any kind of inclination that maybe there's a
Speaker 7: I mean, why else.
Speaker 1: Would he do it?
Speaker 5: It just doesn't want to.
Speaker 4: It was a musically my coach, my coach, my co
Speaker 4: host made a good point this morning, Jeff Cavanaugh. He said,
Speaker 4: probably because they came to him and was like, listen,
Speaker 4: last game of the season, we're probably gonna try to.
Speaker 1: Give yes, you know, cooks. And maybe it was a
Speaker 1: little tink tink, Dame.
Speaker 3: I would love love to suit Jesse up and line
Speaker 3: him up across ten yards across from tink tinking. You
Speaker 3: see who see who work.
Speaker 6: You get him because if you see how he built,
Speaker 6: he don't want no.
Speaker 1: POSSI gest you're getting one play after that? No, that's
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, yeah, you think you got one.
Speaker 4: I got, I got, I got, I got three plays
Speaker 4: in me about it.
Speaker 6: After I got to see that, the one play to
Speaker 6: get there, one place to actually do it, and one
Speaker 6: place to walk back.
Speaker 1: You'd be like Nate, would you say zero to four yards?
Speaker 1: You could beat anybody, that's right, You rode a four yard.
Speaker 4: But it was just like, we're probably not gonna dress
Speaker 4: you this week, and that's the case. It's probably like,
Speaker 4: you know, just let me go, let me go. I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't have to come to me to practice, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. If I'm not gonna play on Sunday,
Speaker 4: then don't don't. I don't want to stand on the
Speaker 4: sideline and the street clothes and you know, just just
Speaker 4: go ahead and do us hall of fever. Let me
Speaker 4: not be a bothersome to you this week.
Speaker 1: Let me not.
Speaker 3: That just seems if that, if that is the case,
Speaker 3: that just seems like a that is.
Speaker 6: More of a real case than what everybody else is
Speaker 6: putting up.
Speaker 3: That's the case. Though, that just doesn't seem finish out
Speaker 3: the season with the he probably your career, finish out
Speaker 3: your career with the team.
Speaker 1: That claimed in uh in waivers. So no one claimed him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that just seems like he was he was on
Speaker 3: the minimum, I believe, right.
Speaker 1: I want to say, you pick up their contract of
Speaker 1: you Yeah, I mean yeah, that just.
Speaker 3: Seems so question for you guys. I know my answer,
Speaker 3: but I'll throw it out there because Kurt put it
Speaker 3: in there. I think he's a Ring of Honor worthy
Speaker 3: because he had he had a good, solid career. But then.
Speaker 1: So all right, so here's the thing.
Speaker 4: Yes, so okay, And that's like the thing about the
Speaker 4: Ring of Honor. What makes it so unique it's there
Speaker 4: is no true criteria. No, no, no, it's what Jerry feels.
Speaker 3: It's like what's today, There's no there's.
Speaker 1: No criteria to what and who goes in. It's what
Speaker 1: Jerry did.
Speaker 4: Because if we're talking about criteria, then Jimmy should have
Speaker 4: been in long before.
Speaker 1: Was it last year? Year before?
Speaker 4: Lasts long before that. So it's it's all about because
Speaker 4: then you ask the question, well, if Zeke goes in,
Speaker 4: is dez Bryant ringavonad Worthy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: guys who you can actual. Yeah, I got asked about
Speaker 1: witting to I.
Speaker 4: Think I think Witton gets in. But like Zeke's right
Speaker 4: now is third all time on the Russian list. Right,
Speaker 4: well there's this number one in touchdowns, right and so
Speaker 4: like there's a Zeke's a two time Rush champion and yeah,
Speaker 4: so there's always it's all about who.
Speaker 1: And Jerry wakes up, what does he feel?
Speaker 3: Who is not in right now that you would put
Speaker 3: in my current players the last twenty years, fifteen, twenty years,
Speaker 3: twenty Witten.
Speaker 7: His time isn't up, kid, I mean, well, I guess,
Speaker 7: like I said, it's tiring.
Speaker 6: They prefer you put the guy in the ring on
Speaker 6: him before they Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: They preferred kind of.
Speaker 6: Like a prerequisite, right yeah, before or I like the
Speaker 6: Ring of honor.
Speaker 1: How it is, man and it ain't. Nobody did nothing.
Speaker 6: To get in there, none of them, none of them.
Speaker 5: What do you mean.
Speaker 6: Good? It's just great, nah, outstanding, excellent. Yeah, yeah, if
Speaker 6: you took that long to put the original number eighty
Speaker 6: eighty and he was excellent.
Speaker 1: He was a playmaker.
Speaker 6: He did it all. He made it all decadeen. Come on, now, bro,
Speaker 6: if he take you eighty years to put him in,
Speaker 6: he should take ninety five of the dudes.
Speaker 3: Should you have to win a super Bowl to be
Speaker 3: in the Ring of Honor?
Speaker 1: Not necessarily?
Speaker 3: Well, I guess if you were a transcendent guy like
Speaker 3: Calvin Johnson or somebody like that, obviously you go in.
Speaker 3: But you have to get close, right Marcus on one?
Speaker 1: No curse? Where what you mentioned in namespose? All right?
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's in. I don't I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't think he is. I think I think Romo's
Speaker 3: on the fence. If Romo goes in, I think Jerry
Speaker 3: would have to put him in because Jerry found him.
Speaker 3: I think that would be the reason why.
Speaker 1: Unless Jerry said so, it's all about.
Speaker 6: Who do he give that mantle to? And he eventually well,
Speaker 6: I'm just saying he's a Jerry guy.
Speaker 3: So if he doesn't get in with Jerry, I don't
Speaker 3: think he ever gets in after that.
Speaker 4: I think it's tough but Tony, because he's just the
Speaker 4: playoffs success isn't there, you know, Like it's just it's tough, is.
Speaker 7: The twenty first century Danny White.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm because the kick but didn't but Danny White did.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not saying Romo's going in. I mean you
Speaker 5: got Danny and Danny would I mean.
Speaker 3: Romo Bell broke all Danny's records, so passing records do this.
Speaker 3: I think he's on the I think Witton's in. I
Speaker 3: think Zeke is not. I think Romo's iffy, And then
Speaker 3: I think that's it. And then obviously Zach Martin.
Speaker 6: Last who was the last one to go into the
Speaker 6: rings won you Wire and Jimmy Johnson and for the
Speaker 6: next forty five years, that should be the last of it.
Speaker 5: There's no old time do you think should go in
Speaker 5: a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one hundred, but that's not it. It's people.
Speaker 6: If you check, a lot of these guys resumed in
Speaker 6: the years that they played and the outstanding players that
Speaker 6: they were there, what what resume resume whatever?
Speaker 1: Whatever? Yeah, but you know what it is the same.
Speaker 3: Well, that's how they feels about it. Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't know.
Speaker 6: You feel like, see how your boy looked that from No, No,
Speaker 6: I don't want to hear that. You you want to
Speaker 6: get you a good laugh.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get that in. We're gonna get the last.
Speaker 6: When you make your mistake, you let me know.
Speaker 1: There ain't no pass. If you didn't, would Ransom made yes,
Speaker 1: you didn't, you know, I would feel some kind of way.
Speaker 3: He wouldn't you know he wasn't paying attention to the
Speaker 3: show if you checked out.
Speaker 1: If you didn't, I'll be like you let me get
Speaker 1: away with that.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you no passes on this show.
Speaker 1: We we we when you keeping it real.
Speaker 6: The thing that has made the cowboys running the Cowboys,
Speaker 6: that's Super Bowls. The thing that made a special for
Speaker 6: a long time now is you know when you sell
Speaker 6: that right there so hard fans don't forget. So when
Speaker 6: you stopped putting people into your select ring of vonn
Speaker 6: and how you have to be glorified this those questions
Speaker 6: are gonna be the ones they put in the forefront. Well,
Speaker 6: he ain't do this, He ain't get to the MC championship.
Speaker 1: This guy is.
Speaker 6: Just freeze and let's see if you can get somebody
Speaker 6: going in the right direction.
Speaker 1: You know that's what I agree with you, all right?
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl five guys made it. Aubrey Lamb, Parsons, Smith.
Speaker 6: And Turps knew I was on the right world when
Speaker 6: I said it resume, I.
Speaker 3: Was gonna let it slide. Look at him and he
Speaker 3: was laughing.
Speaker 6: And then he figured out the spelling, and then Jesse over.
Speaker 4: And I was like, I knew what you meant, what
Speaker 4: you mentioned the groove.
Speaker 1: Don't forget the accent in that.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Don't forget the accent in that you gotta.
Speaker 3: I was like, see laughing, it's okay for me to know.
Speaker 1: It's if you laugh from the start. If you didn't
Speaker 1: say it twice, you just would have said it once. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it would would have been okay. But you doubled down
Speaker 1: or a.
Speaker 6: Double down that's when you you know, thanks.
Speaker 3: K what do they call it?
Speaker 6: Until d But if I had hit it three times,
Speaker 6: if I hit it, if I hit it three times,
Speaker 6: you would have let it go.
Speaker 3: Non stopped the show.
Speaker 1: I would have been more.
Speaker 6: Like, Hey, that package these people something that you said
Speaker 6: it was a note in this package.
Speaker 1: Where was the note?
Speaker 3: I don't know you now?
Speaker 1: Hours ago.
Speaker 6: No, No, my wife took the things when she moved it,
Speaker 6: so it went out of my sight. And so yesterday
Speaker 6: I'm like, okay, So I saw the box.
Speaker 1: And it was empty.
Speaker 6: I say, baby, it was a note in that box
Speaker 6: that I was supposed to get with these people. And
Speaker 6: I say, you took it out of my site. So
Speaker 6: I said, I gotta go apologize. Tell these people, you know,
Speaker 6: thank you for the gifts and apologize.
Speaker 3: I'll just give them to resent.
Speaker 1: It's in the whole box.
Speaker 6: Not the whole box, just to know. And I apologize.
Speaker 6: I really do, I really do apologize. You gave me
Speaker 6: that two weeks ago.
Speaker 3: No big deal.
Speaker 1: You be like you, you be tunnel vision. You lock
Speaker 1: in on what you lock in on, and if that
Speaker 1: thing is out of your periphery, you get out of
Speaker 1: my resume. You know what.
Speaker 3: That should just be the default word, not anything. Doesn't
Speaker 3: even have to doesn't even have to be by the
Speaker 3: resume or resuming.
Speaker 1: Just you know, I got I need.
Speaker 3: I need to go down to the bathroom and resume myself.
Speaker 3: Anybody that should have made the Pro Bowl that didn't.
Speaker 3: Anybody that made it they shouldn't have.
Speaker 1: Uh, it's good, it's good.
Speaker 4: Is the best returner is the best kicker, Mica is
Speaker 4: my CD has been a dog, and you know, Toyler
Speaker 4: has just been quietly doing folks, so nobody else.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, okay this game.
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Speaker 3: we are the what is it the second to last show? Yeah,
Speaker 3: daily show of the season. Yes, did you start your
Speaker 3: past yet?
Speaker 1: You see it?
Speaker 3: How's it going so far?
Speaker 4: One day in I'm getting tired, Like I'm getting tired today,
Speaker 4: Like I can feel Did.
Speaker 3: You start yesterday? What's the just nothing but water?
Speaker 5: The next week?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: What's the where you hit? What day do you hit bottom?
Speaker 3: And then you start bouncing back? Day three's bottom, you
Speaker 3: bottom out in the day four, you start coming out.
Speaker 1: Of the three as hell Day three tomorrow.
Speaker 5: Tomorrow too.
Speaker 4: That just now, like that doesn't bother me, Like I
Speaker 4: walked down to the caf and got water. So like
Speaker 4: the food stuff doesn't bother me. Just your energy level.
Speaker 1: But it's just my energy level.
Speaker 3: And then like the headaches, I could, I could tell
Speaker 3: you dragging a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, your energy is alone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, lower tomorrow, so it'd be a good show tomorrow
Speaker 3: for our last show of the year.
Speaker 1: Just drag me. I don't have to backpack me. You
Speaker 1: don't have to, Nate, bring a backpack. You got to
Speaker 1: backpack me, big boy? Cool?
Speaker 3: Thanks Nate. Moving on a long week, Yeah, it's gonna
Speaker 3: be a long day tomorrow, Trey Lance, At this point,
Speaker 3: does it even matter? Would you start him? Would you not?
Speaker 3: Like I think you, I mean, you're kind of damned
Speaker 3: if you do. Damned if you don't. If you put
Speaker 3: him out there, you're gonna get You're gonna get some.
Speaker 1: Heat for.
Speaker 3: Again. It brings up though, why did we give up
Speaker 3: before th round? And then if he goes out there
Speaker 3: and he lights out, it's like, oh, yeah, why didn't
Speaker 3: you do this earlier? Why did you know? And then
Speaker 3: and then do you what's the point of putting him
Speaker 3: out there? Would you put him out there this game?
Speaker 13: Kurt?
Speaker 7: There's an interesting tweet out about.
Speaker 1: No, you got it, you got it, You on it.
Speaker 1: You're on it. You're on it.
Speaker 5: Cooper Rush.
Speaker 7: If he plays fifty five percent of the team snaps
Speaker 7: this year, he gets a five hundred thousand dollars bonus.
Speaker 7: Right now, he's at fifty two point five, so he
Speaker 7: basically has to play the entire game to get over
Speaker 7: fifty five percent.
Speaker 6: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Does that count against the cap yep?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 7: And do you let the show good faith and say
Speaker 7: thanks for you know, guiding the ship while we're down,
Speaker 7: and say here, take care of your your snaps, or
Speaker 7: do you say.
Speaker 4: I said, I know one person that wants all the
Speaker 4: snaps to want I think he just like two hundred
Speaker 4: and fifty thousand, like forty seven percent or something like that.
Speaker 1: She is.
Speaker 3: So how terrible would it be if they let him
Speaker 3: play like a half and then pulled him out where.
Speaker 14: He was like one percentage point snaps from I've never
Speaker 14: I never prayed for a player to get hurt before
Speaker 14: in my life, But if I was in that soilent
Speaker 14: they did that to me, I'll be I'll be invoking
Speaker 14: all of his prayers I can.
Speaker 1: And be like ankle, ankle, Hey God, I need to
Speaker 1: get back in there for just gave out. Would y'all
Speaker 1: play him?
Speaker 3: Is there any upside to play in him playing Trey? Yeah?
Speaker 3: No at this point. No, what's the point, right, there's
Speaker 3: no point, you're there's no point because if he goes
Speaker 3: out and the lights out, are you bringing him back?
Speaker 5: There could be a preseason game anyway. So what are
Speaker 5: you gonna learn?
Speaker 1: We learned already. We saw him in three of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he threw We saw him so five interceptions in one
Speaker 1: of them.
Speaker 3: Nate told us about what is about nine weeks ago
Speaker 3: that he wasn't talking about that anymore, and he's right,
Speaker 3: he's still not.
Speaker 4: Talking about It's just I don't I don't see there's
Speaker 4: nothing that he can do good.
Speaker 1: There's nothing he can do good enough that will change
Speaker 1: the thought process.
Speaker 4: Right, Like, if you're saying to me that in week
Speaker 4: eighteen that his performance will determine anything, then what were
Speaker 4: you doing in the last seventeen weeks? Like you you
Speaker 4: evaluate him in the classroom, you saw him on the
Speaker 4: scout team.
Speaker 6: You know what you have?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: Part of the reason, not a part of a large
Speaker 4: majority of the reason why Trey Lance isn't playing, because
Speaker 4: you know what you have and if he was, because
Speaker 4: remember we went a month, we went six weeks. If
Speaker 4: you add the buy into that where we didn't have
Speaker 4: a victory six weeks, we I don't think we won
Speaker 4: in the month of October.
Speaker 1: Was it October? Yeah, don't think we won the month
Speaker 1: of October. If you were looking for a change, a spark,
Speaker 1: a new wrinkle, or what have you, he would have
Speaker 1: been in there.
Speaker 3: Well did you have you have?
Speaker 6: You have?
Speaker 4: You had every you had every reason to go, hey,
Speaker 4: we need to change, we need a new spark, we
Speaker 4: need we need we need to do something different than
Speaker 4: what we've been doing the last six weeks where we
Speaker 4: did not get.
Speaker 1: A victory and they didn't. That is that is where
Speaker 1: it all.
Speaker 4: Yeah, tells a picture and and I don't I don't
Speaker 4: see the point. This is true, Cooper rush job. Let
Speaker 4: them go ahead and finish it.
Speaker 1: What do you think me now?
Speaker 3: I mean, there's no Like Jesse said, there's no to me,
Speaker 3: there's no upside. The only from the organizational standpoint, the
Speaker 3: only only bad juju can happen if you play them.
Speaker 3: It's like and I think you know what you guys
Speaker 3: kind of like Coach McCarthy, I think you know, I
Speaker 3: think they know what they're gonna do after the season.
Speaker 3: I don't think this game unless you just go out
Speaker 3: there and you lose sixty to nothing. I think they
Speaker 3: know what they're doing. They're gonna do the say the
Speaker 3: right things and follow the right protocols. But I think
Speaker 3: they know if they're I think they know who's coming
Speaker 3: back and who's not. You know, I don't think this game.
Speaker 3: I don't think this game means anything unless they just
Speaker 3: completely laid out and.
Speaker 1: Even there, I don't even meant I don't think that
Speaker 1: even matters.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they know what this game is.
Speaker 4: This is this is well week eighteen. This game means
Speaker 4: app literally nothing. I mean, it mean something to them.
Speaker 4: We can play, we can spoil and get give them
Speaker 4: a lesser seed and have them have to travel to Philadelphia,
Speaker 4: because right now, that's what Washington is at. It's it's
Speaker 4: they're trying to maintain that six or seven seed. Seven seed,
Speaker 4: you gotta go to Philadelphia, sixth seed, you gotta you
Speaker 4: gotta play the Rams, so.
Speaker 1: You pick your poison, you know what I mean. You
Speaker 1: gotta go with the Rams.
Speaker 3: So you know, that's that's the thing. So for them,
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't, I don't.
Speaker 4: It doesn't mean much to the cowboys. So whether they
Speaker 4: go out there and they may go out there and
Speaker 4: put up a stinker, they may not. But and then
Speaker 4: and then at the end of the day, how many
Speaker 4: guys can you rest? Can't rest that many with the
Speaker 4: six eight, can't rest that many. So a lot of
Speaker 4: you guys are gonna.
Speaker 1: Have to play. There's always a chance of injury.
Speaker 4: So you're gonna you're gonna dress out all your linemen,
Speaker 4: all your lineman gonna dress out. Got you gotta have
Speaker 4: ten of them, uh eight and whatever, but all of
Speaker 4: them gonna dress out. But I mean, we the trade
Speaker 4: lance experiment. It's got to just talk this, like Jerry
Speaker 4: said last week when he talked about basically making the
Speaker 4: mistake of you know, well just sometimes you just can't,
Speaker 4: you know, plug and play guys. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: draft him and all of a sudden he's you know,
Speaker 4: this is the next thing that you have to admit that.
Speaker 1: You were that just didn't go right for you.
Speaker 4: You you you gamble on a guy who you thought
Speaker 4: and whether that whether that gamble had anything to do
Speaker 4: with you were trying to level the playing field or
Speaker 4: gain some leverage with Dak Prescott to see if he
Speaker 4: would fold or not if that was that was the case.
Speaker 1: But you you gambled the dude who did not come
Speaker 1: up the way you thought he would.
Speaker 3: You know something that's was mind blowing to me today
Speaker 3: when I heard it, and I just looked it up
Speaker 3: to see some other guys that you heard on Instagram. No,
Speaker 3: I heard it on the radio.
Speaker 1: You one for one on you one for one on that.
Speaker 1: I am though.
Speaker 3: Isn't that a crazy status? Like there's no way that's
Speaker 3: possible you want for one of that? Thanks Kurt for
Speaker 3: backing me up, because we would have just dismissed that.
Speaker 3: If you want to back me up. Sam Darnold's younger
Speaker 3: than both Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson. I thought Sam
Speaker 3: Donald was an old dude. Other quarterbacks that are that
Speaker 3: are older than Sam Donald, Kyler Murray. That makes sense,
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen Baker, Mayfield, Jared Goff.
Speaker 1: So what are the ages?
Speaker 3: Sam Donald's twenty seven, Burrow's twenty seven, Lamar's twenty seven,
Speaker 3: But I guess by and so it was Kyler Murray,
Speaker 3: but by years, I guess by months.
Speaker 1: He's he's younger.
Speaker 3: So that blew my mind when I heard it earlier today.
Speaker 3: So let's talk about the quarterback position. Jade and Daniels
Speaker 3: another young guy. When we come back from our break.
Speaker 3: I want to get y'all thoughts. Is he the real
Speaker 3: deal and is what he's doing sustainable with the way
Speaker 3: that he plays the game. Also a pro bowler when
Speaker 3: we come back on Hanging with the Boys.
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Speaker 1: I gotta do a shout out. I gotta give a
Speaker 1: shout out to Lee Lee.
Speaker 4: I saw Lee at the movies. This man a couple
Speaker 4: of days ago, maybe a week ago.
Speaker 3: Male or female?
Speaker 1: Male? Male? Okay male? So he watches the show. Big fan,
Speaker 1: what's up? Shout out to Lee?
Speaker 4: Uh, appreciate your brother took a picture and everything, all
Speaker 4: that good stuff.
Speaker 3: They're everywhere our listeners.
Speaker 1: Thanks for you.
Speaker 6: Never know.
Speaker 1: My p's and q's. Man, I'm always my best behavior.
Speaker 3: What movie did you see?
Speaker 1: Are you allowed to do? Close?
Speaker 13: It?
Speaker 3: Was it a I didn't know if it was one
Speaker 3: of those black light theaters or what's.
Speaker 1: A black light theater. Don't worry about you, Oh black light.
Speaker 1: Oh I thought he was being racist my fault. No,
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, what's that?
Speaker 3: Not at all, not that you are racist.
Speaker 1: The other time, but I just didn't, like, you know,
Speaker 1: anyway to.
Speaker 3: Show okay, visible all right, Jade Daniels real deal, real,
Speaker 3: real deal? Or do you think is what he's doing
Speaker 3: is sustainable? Do you think he's or is this a
Speaker 3: is he going to have a sophomore slump after this
Speaker 3: year now that there's tape out on him and people
Speaker 3: kind of figured out because he's been playing really well,
Speaker 3: runs really well, seize the field really well. I didn't
Speaker 3: think he was going to be a good NFL quarterback
Speaker 3: because he's so he's so thin, man, he just looks frail.
Speaker 3: But proved me wrong. He had a hell of a year.
Speaker 3: What do you guys think?
Speaker 1: I think? I think.
Speaker 4: I don't think the running at that the way he
Speaker 4: runs is sustainable. But he's more than good enough now.
Speaker 4: It's it will be it will be very important that
Speaker 4: going forward for dan Quinn to continue to put good
Speaker 4: talent around him, because that's when these guys begin to struggle.
Speaker 4: It's it's when I when I when I don't have
Speaker 4: the pieces now right now. You have Terry McLaurin, and
Speaker 4: you have Diami Brown, you have Zach Ertz was getting
Speaker 4: older and the cash you know, Luke McCaffrey.
Speaker 1: But you know, you got to just.
Speaker 4: Continue to find ways to put talent around him, keep
Speaker 4: that roster building, keep that roster growing. H If he
Speaker 4: has a talent around him, Yeah, I think you know,
Speaker 4: Washington has found their guy. They found their guy for
Speaker 4: the next ten twelve years.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: His only thing that I think that will hinder him
Speaker 4: is the is the body breaking down. And it's it's
Speaker 4: easy when you're young, but those hits are they take
Speaker 4: a toll.
Speaker 5: So he has to learn sixth or something in sacks.
Speaker 5: Taking something like that pretty high.
Speaker 3: So all right, and uh, the other pro bowler or
Speaker 3: another pro bowler on their team. What do you think
Speaker 3: about Daniels Nate.
Speaker 6: Everything everything? Jesse said, that kid is accurate, man, Yeah,
Speaker 6: the kid is accurate. That's what we look for in
Speaker 6: the league. Anticipation, accuracy. You know, if he if he knows,
Speaker 6: if he makes up his mind, he can get it
Speaker 6: there and he can put it there on time. I
Speaker 6: like to and to be honest, I did not know
Speaker 6: anything about this kid coming out of l s U
Speaker 6: from Arizona. I didn't, and uh every way he's being
Speaker 6: coaches are spoken highly of him. So uh, I just think, man,
Speaker 6: you know will like the kid down off the Texas kid.
Speaker 6: Everybody's trying to put well, he ain't this his second
Speaker 6: year where his offensive line ain't either, And that goes
Speaker 6: to what Jess said, that's your premium man.
Speaker 1: You know he can be very special where you keep
Speaker 1: him special.
Speaker 6: That that that bothers me about this about this league,
Speaker 6: they always find a way to take their best talent
Speaker 6: and destroy it like Cincinnati is trying to do.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take a hard left turn since we're talking
Speaker 3: about quarterback position. If you're the Cowboys, you've got Dak,
Speaker 3: you sign him to all the You sign him to
Speaker 3: the big contract, right, you sign him all the money.
Speaker 3: He's starting to have a history of injuries, right, he's
Speaker 3: starting to get bitten by the injury bug, right, and
Speaker 3: they're and they're not small injuries. One more big injury
Speaker 3: and you really have to start, I think, looking at
Speaker 3: the quarterback position, right, like, Okay, this is becoming a pattern,
Speaker 3: regardless how much money you have tied up, you have
Speaker 3: to start thinking about, like, what are we doing in
Speaker 3: the future? Right if you're the Cowboys, are you thinking
Speaker 3: about that? You have to be thinking about that now, right,
Speaker 3: like because it ruins your season, Like you would have
Speaker 3: made the playoffs if Dak even all the other injuries.
Speaker 3: I think you would have made the playoffs with the
Speaker 3: way the season wound up if he would have been healthy,
Speaker 3: because I think he's worth what two to three games
Speaker 3: by itself, maybe three to four just him. So if
Speaker 3: he gets hurt again next year, that wrecks another season.
Speaker 3: And you have all these assets and all this invested
Speaker 3: around him. But when he goes down, your season goes
Speaker 3: down the toilet. Are you starting to think about.
Speaker 1: How do you address that?
Speaker 3: Because Cooper Rush is not the answer to get you
Speaker 3: into the playoffs. Trey Lance obviously isn't the answer. Do
Speaker 3: you go sign a really good, solid veteran guy. Do
Speaker 3: you address it in the draft? Do you have so
Speaker 3: much money he tied up with him that you can't
Speaker 3: do either one?
Speaker 13: Like?
Speaker 3: What are you doing if you're the Cowboy? Do you
Speaker 3: wait till after this year? Where Stevens already said twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four and twenty twenty five. We're gonna are gonna
Speaker 3: be tough. You know, they're not gonna go make a
Speaker 3: big investment at the backup spot. Like how are you
Speaker 3: how are you thinking that through as an organization?
Speaker 4: And see the frustrating is the frustrating thing is is
Speaker 4: And Jeff said this this morning as well. You smoke
Speaker 4: away these fourth round picks, and this is the round
Speaker 4: where you can go and get that backup quarterback. That's
Speaker 4: where you got that guy, right, Like, that's when you
Speaker 4: go find a guy like that, But you smoke it away.
Speaker 4: You put it out there on a mingo who's I
Speaker 4: don't know how much his value will return on that, but.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: You don't come into the season thinking about injury, right,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like no team truly prepares
Speaker 4: themselves for a backup quarterback situation. You try to have
Speaker 4: the guy that you're most familiar with and that you
Speaker 4: know maybe can best run your system, or who played
Speaker 4: the best out of the guys that you had in
Speaker 4: training camp.
Speaker 1: But I forget who it was it was. It was
Speaker 1: it was a Cults.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was. It definitely wasn't It
Speaker 4: definitely wasn't what's the black coach from the Colts. I
Speaker 4: think it was more whoever was before him, Dungee. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it wasn't Dungee. But they said, you know, like, we don't,
Speaker 4: we don't prepare, we don't we don't game plan for
Speaker 4: the backup quarterback. Like we lose that quarterback, we're screwed.
Speaker 4: That's just about it. You know, mostly all the teams.
Speaker 4: So I don't know how you truly prepare it. Because
Speaker 4: anybody who is close to your starter will be a
Speaker 4: starter somewhere else. So anytime you get to the backup,
Speaker 4: you're screwed. Like you're just screwed that that's just the
Speaker 4: nature of the beast. You can hope and Cooper Rush,
Speaker 4: I mean he's like, I think Cooper Rush might be
Speaker 4: like twelve and five in his seventeen starts that he's
Speaker 4: had so far, he has a winning percentage as a starter,
Speaker 4: or twelve and six or something like that. But I mean,
Speaker 4: Cooper Rush has been fine in the sense of just
Speaker 4: idea with the backup quarterback. But you don't go into
Speaker 4: the year thinking Dak's gonna get hurt again. You're going
Speaker 4: in saying let's keep him healthy, because if he is healthy,
Speaker 4: he gives us the best.
Speaker 5: Chance to win rush is nine and five. Jim Caldwell
Speaker 5: was that the coach.
Speaker 3: Jim Cardwell, Yeah, but don't you have to at some
Speaker 3: point soon start thinking about or I guess the question
Speaker 3: would be how how soon do you start thinking about
Speaker 3: the next step? Because the next may.
Speaker 4: Think about it every year like it's it's a it's
Speaker 4: a conversation every year. You like, now, how much how
Speaker 4: many of the research you want to put into it? Again,
Speaker 4: like I said earlier, that fourth round pick is usually
Speaker 4: a good spot where you can go get a guy.
Speaker 4: He becomes your career backup or whatever.
Speaker 1: But you.
Speaker 4: And this goes back to proper team building. If your
Speaker 4: team is built right and you've done things the right
Speaker 4: way the season before, barring any major injuries that will
Speaker 4: keep guys out from the season starting, you're not drafting
Speaker 4: for so much so much need, and that the Cowboys
Speaker 4: coming in this draft, you're drafting because you need offensive lineman,
Speaker 4: you need defensive lineman, you need another corner, you need
Speaker 4: another receiver, you need a running back, you need another linebacker.
Speaker 1: So you go in with so much need, is that
Speaker 1: you don't have a chance.
Speaker 4: To throw that dart at that quarterback in the fifth round,
Speaker 4: because you need for your fifth round pick to be
Speaker 4: a part of what you're doing going forward. And so
Speaker 4: that's that's that's the part where the Cowboys put themselves
Speaker 4: in a bad situation. And that's why I think Cooper
Speaker 4: Rush keeps a job because they find themselves with so
Speaker 4: much need that you can't throw a dark at the
Speaker 4: guy in the fourth or fifth round because those picks
Speaker 4: have become essential in your roster building.
Speaker 7: I would think unless they replaced coaching staff and all that,
Speaker 7: the Rush did one rush back bad. I mean, who
Speaker 7: knows what happened. They got a new coordinator, new offense,
Speaker 7: all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously, I mean they're thinking about it because they
Speaker 3: gave away that fourth round and for Trey Lance didn't
Speaker 3: work out. But you're, you know, I guess you're always evaluating,
Speaker 3: trying to see what's out there. Just one of y'all's
Speaker 3: thoughts on you know, do you do you try to
Speaker 3: get a guy? Are you looking next year in the
Speaker 3: draft or this draft?
Speaker 1: This year?
Speaker 3: I guess all that year, all the above. All thanks
Speaker 3: for resuming your attendance on the show. Nate Noy, is
Speaker 3: there anything you want to talk about the last two
Speaker 3: minutes of the show.
Speaker 1: You know, I just really like how you guys have
Speaker 1: handled yourself today. Yes, been in order.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you, Curt. Anything you want to add
Speaker 3: to the show?
Speaker 5: How can I top all this?
Speaker 3: Well, I think we're done, Jesse, good show. I hope
Speaker 3: you feel better. Nate, thanks for contributing and wearing your
Speaker 3: Michael Urban line of clothing.
Speaker 1: One thing, but the one thing that was very good
Speaker 1: and very consistent was just giving man Jess.
Speaker 3: Jesse, thank you low energy, but right on. Boy got
Speaker 3: a little cloudy there at the end. He got that
Speaker 3: brain five going, But you can do yep. Chris, thanks
Speaker 3: for keeping us on the air. Thanks for all the
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Speaker 3: don't know if you're back there today because they haven't
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Speaker 3: and we will see you tomorrow for the last show
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