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Speaker 2: Shermichael Singleton is in the mix with us today. Shermichael
Speaker 2: and I go way back. You know, I'm from TV
Speaker 2: CNN conservative commentator. He's a gun guy, so he's a
Speaker 2: man after my own heart. Uh, and he's doing great,
Speaker 2: great work these days. We'll talk to him about all
Speaker 2: all of the above. Let's start with this. You know,
Speaker 2: I occasionally get to see some fun clips of you
Speaker 2: on CNN, you and Scott Jennings. I would say standing
Speaker 2: for conservatism, but really just standing for sanity, I think
Speaker 2: is a more apt description of it. But what's it
Speaker 2: like these days? And when you see what the Democrats
Speaker 2: are trying to do, are they actually turning the ship
Speaker 2: around away from crazy town or are they just still
Speaker 2: going right into it?
Speaker 3: First of all, I like I gotta say Buck shout
Speaker 3: out to Scott Jenny's I mean, I love, love, love
Speaker 3: Scott Jenny.
Speaker 1: We text all the time.
Speaker 3: I mean I have a group text with a lot
Speaker 3: of my friends and Scott comes up a lot, and
Speaker 3: some of my friends aren't even Republican, and they respect
Speaker 3: Scott like guys respect Scott Jennings because they look at
Speaker 3: Scott Jennings like this is a guy's guy. And so
Speaker 3: I just want to say shout out to him because
Speaker 3: I have a lot of love and admiration for that guy.
Speaker 3: He's just a really, really good human being, and I
Speaker 3: really feel honored to sort of be on set with him.
Speaker 3: He's been at CNN for almost ten years now. I
Speaker 3: was there for a year, left and now I'm back,
Speaker 3: and so it's just sort of good to have that
Speaker 3: space with someone where you have like minded views about
Speaker 3: a lot of things. To answer your question though about Democrats,
Speaker 3: it's what Gavin Newsom said, the governor California. It's what
Speaker 3: Bennett the Senator of Colorado just said recently. I think
Speaker 3: we're Christen Welker on MSNBC that their party as toxic.
Speaker 1: That is a reality. And they have not learned anything.
Speaker 3: They haven't they haven't gather their thoughts, they haven't paused
Speaker 3: and said, well, let us recollect and figure out why
Speaker 3: did we lose Latino men and women, Why did we
Speaker 3: lose a subset of black men, Why did we lose
Speaker 3: younger men across the demographic board, and why did we
Speaker 3: lose even some young women, depending on what poll you
Speaker 3: want to look at. That they haven't stopped to sort
Speaker 3: of figure any of that out. And while you have
Speaker 3: some of these special elections, I think five of them,
Speaker 3: they may have done that I thought should have gone
Speaker 3: to a Republican And then they're saying, well, see that
Speaker 3: means we were right just last year.
Speaker 1: It was just a fluke.
Speaker 3: Well, I would say not necessarily because even in those races,
Speaker 3: it didn't change the shape of power in the legislature
Speaker 3: and those two stays, Pennsylvania being one. Then they want
Speaker 3: to bring a to say, oh, we're going to be
Speaker 3: a big deal for us. Nonsense, thirty plus our district. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the candidate there may underperform the president, not because people
Speaker 3: are pissed, to be quite frank, if you look at
Speaker 3: the reporter at the Hill, but you're down in Florida,
Speaker 3: this candidate, I'm gonna be honest, Buck, and I don't
Speaker 3: know what your thoughts are on this, but in my opinion,
Speaker 3: he's kind.
Speaker 1: Of been a lazy guy.
Speaker 3: That's why he's gonna slightly perform a little worse than
Speaker 3: President Trump. Has nothing to do with any other dynamics
Speaker 3: that the media and Democrats are trying.
Speaker 2: To if I could just be fair, I don't actually know,
Speaker 2: Randy Fine, we had them on the show recently. But
Speaker 2: when you think you're in a plus thirty, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm sure a lot of Democrats who are running in
Speaker 2: San Francisco and you know, like the northern part of
Speaker 2: Virginia that's right next to DC, they probably get a
Speaker 2: little lazy too, and so far as they're like, look,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna win this thing, right, So that's true, it's
Speaker 2: tough to get. No. I mean, I've s The point.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to make though a buck is that the
Speaker 3: way they're trying to create the narrative is like, oh,
Speaker 3: this person is going to underperform because.
Speaker 1: We're doing so well.
Speaker 3: And what I'm simply saying is that's not the case.
Speaker 3: And then even in Wisconsin they said, oh, this is
Speaker 3: another big bell weather. There is a retiring Democratic state
Speaker 3: Supreme Court justice who's retiring. If Democrats win that sea,
Speaker 3: they're not replacing a Republican. This isn't some big upset.
Speaker 3: And the fact that we have spent in total eighty
Speaker 3: both sides over eighty million dollars in this race if
Speaker 3: they do win this seat, which I think there's a
Speaker 3: good chance that they might. The fact that we forced
Speaker 3: them to spend so much money buck suggests the strength
Speaker 3: on our side, not necessarily this rebound of Democrats. So
Speaker 3: I'm pointing out those examples and the other special elections
Speaker 3: to simply say that, in my opinion, they have not
Speaker 3: learned anything at all.
Speaker 1: Even on immigration, they haven't learned anything.
Speaker 3: You look at this issue with the signal gate nonsense,
Speaker 3: and look I have said, and I think everybody said, look,
Speaker 3: we could have done this a little differently. Even Walls
Speaker 3: he came out and said, I think a week go
Speaker 3: said look we could have done some things differently. Here
Speaker 3: we acknowledge that the era. We're gonna look at it
Speaker 3: and we're gonna figure out how we're gonna do things
Speaker 3: better moving forward.
Speaker 1: I respect that acknowledgment.
Speaker 3: But anytime I or even Scott Jennings and I said
Speaker 3: this on saying in last Sunday say to the Union
Speaker 3: with Dana Bash I said, if you're going to make
Speaker 3: a moral argument, people are on to keep looking backwards.
Speaker 3: Well I have to look backwards, and I have to
Speaker 3: look backwards because I want to know what credibility you
Speaker 3: bring to this disposition that you're now for me when
Speaker 3: you say, oh, this is hypocrisy. It's the worst thing
Speaker 3: that we've seen in America's history in terms of leaks.
Speaker 3: And I can't believe that they would talk like this
Speaker 3: would highly classified information on an app that anybody could download.
Speaker 3: Yet in twenty twenty one, when thirteen American troops were
Speaker 3: murdered dozens more severely wounded, no one asked for anyone
Speaker 3: to be fired Buck And even when one of the
Speaker 3: president's senior advisors wanted to offer his resignation Joe Biden,
Speaker 3: at this time, Sullivan said, I don't want to accept
Speaker 3: your resignation. And so my point simple is if you're
Speaker 3: going to frame an argument around something, have the moral
Speaker 3: standing to say, well, this is what we did. We
Speaker 3: help people to account four years ago, you guys do
Speaker 3: that wasn't the case. And so again another example to
Speaker 3: suggest to me as a strategy is that they have anything.
Speaker 3: And I think whatever elections they may win here or there,
Speaker 3: that to me isn't necessarily about a resurgence of democratic strength,
Speaker 3: and not at all.
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Speaker 2: just talking about the economy second ago and how that's
Speaker 2: affecting the Market's a bit. You know, as you and
Speaker 2: I are sitting here talking, we're twenty four hours away
Speaker 2: from the big Trump Tariff Day speech. Fortunately not on
Speaker 2: April Fool's Day, right, I think in the day that
Speaker 2: they didn't have it on April Fools, So probably not
Speaker 2: the best day for the tariff speech. So what do
Speaker 2: you what do you think about this? Because this is
Speaker 2: one of those areas where even a lot of Republicans
Speaker 2: who do buy into the Trump agenda are like, look,
Speaker 2: I love Trump, but why this. I hear that from
Speaker 2: a lot of Republicans. I love Trump, I love what
Speaker 2: he's doing on all these things. You know, forget about
Speaker 2: like I'm talking about like Lincoln Project, fake Republicans, I
Speaker 2: mean actual Trump support. They get a little worried about this.
Speaker 2: What do you make of that?
Speaker 3: I get worried before a different reason because I think
Speaker 3: that's assessment and critique of free trade is spot on.
Speaker 3: And if you go back to the early nineties, I mean, hell,
Speaker 3: I was maybe four years old then, so I don't
Speaker 3: remember this. I had to go back and read and
Speaker 3: buck your only what and you're what thirty six, thirty seven,
Speaker 3: so hell you were pretty young too.
Speaker 2: So I'm forty three, sure, Michael. That's just this is
Speaker 2: just a lot of you know, a lot of self
Speaker 2: care over many years. But thank you for that. I
Speaker 2: appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, hey bro, you got good genetings, my man.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: But the thing I was going to make is the
Speaker 3: promise of free trade was that having these free trade
Speaker 3: agreements with Canada, Mexico NAFTA in particular, and there are
Speaker 3: others that we have agreed to over the over the
Speaker 3: time span, that these things would be a net benefit
Speaker 3: to the American consumer of the American people generally speaking,
Speaker 3: because it would lower the cost for a whole set
Speaker 3: of goods. The problem with that is we have seen
Speaker 3: over time is that it can letly destroyed a significant
Speaker 3: sector of the middle class a lot of when you
Speaker 3: talk about the rest belt, for example, you talk and
Speaker 3: you look crisis there, you look at and I'm going
Speaker 3: to bring this up because Democrats talk a lot about
Speaker 3: the implications of tariffs on communities of color. Well, Buck,
Speaker 3: there was a significant subset of black middle class that
Speaker 3: rose out of the manufacturing sector, in part because a
Speaker 3: lot of black men, in particular in some black women,
Speaker 3: but certainly black men were able to get good paying
Speaker 3: jobs for one k's working in those manufacturing plants. When
Speaker 3: those businesses shipped overseas, you saw the complete erosion of
Speaker 3: billions of dollars of net worth for white and black
Speaker 3: working class Americans across this country. And that's why you
Speaker 3: see many places, a lot of places in the rest
Speaker 3: belt that are now desolate. They're almost like desert towns.
Speaker 3: Now you couldn't even imagine that they were once upon
Speaker 3: a time thriving towns. And so Donald Trump's critique that
Speaker 3: tariffs can be an equilibrium if you will, to sort
Speaker 3: of reset and bring at least a quarter of those
Speaker 3: jobs back to the United States, he's right right, And
Speaker 3: why many unions who are not traditionally Republican supporting groups
Speaker 3: are saying, wait a minute here, this would bring back
Speaker 3: potentially hundreds of thousands of jobs which are necessary.
Speaker 1: This would increase pay for a lot of our union members.
Speaker 3: Where I think the President has to be careful is
Speaker 3: on that sort of pass through tax will be to
Speaker 3: the consumers. So when you have tariffs, a manufacturer is
Speaker 3: essentially going to pass it on by increasing the price
Speaker 3: of goods. There are a couple of ways that I
Speaker 3: have been thinking about that I would advise the President
Speaker 3: Buck to consider. You can look at tax and centives
Speaker 3: or credits, so the government can essentially offer tax credits
Speaker 3: or deductions to companies that lower the prices for consumers.
Speaker 3: If the cost to make goods is going to be
Speaker 3: more expensive, you can look at subsidies. For example, let's
Speaker 3: talk about cars. That's been a big conversation. Well, cars
Speaker 3: are going to be more of up to two three
Speaker 3: thousand dollars more. You can look at subsidies to lower costs,
Speaker 3: similarly to what we've done to help reduce the price
Speaker 3: of electric vehicles, which we're still sort of doing. That's
Speaker 3: one potential way to not pass on costs to the consumer.
Speaker 3: And then you have potential pass through pressures pressure, so
Speaker 3: that essentially would be a tax benefit tied to passing
Speaker 3: savings onto consumers. An example like that would be rebates
Speaker 3: or price caps, so companies would essentially be incentivized to
Speaker 3: lower prices to qualify for these rebates. Again, those are
Speaker 3: a comprehensive economic strategies that the president could implement to say, look,
Speaker 3: we understand that these terrors for a little while will
Speaker 3: essentially increase the price of goods on the consumer. So
Speaker 3: let us look at taxes, symtoms and credits for companies.
Speaker 3: Let us look at subsidies lower costs. Let us look
Speaker 3: at pass through such as rebates and price caps so
Speaker 3: that the consumer doesn't have to the bulk of that.
Speaker 3: And so I would advise President Trump but to look
Speaker 3: at some of those measures, because overall, I think he's
Speaker 3: one hundred percent right to focus on saying, hey, we
Speaker 3: have to bring manufacturing back. It's in our national security
Speaker 3: interest to much of our ship is made in China
Speaker 3: that is not good for us. And then two, it
Speaker 3: is good to rebuild the American middle class. Again, not
Speaker 3: everybody is going to be wearing a suit and tie
Speaker 3: and c suite. That that has never been the bulk
Speaker 3: of how people in this country have thrived. So bring
Speaker 3: back good paying jobs where again a lot of men
Speaker 3: who work with their hands and get those trade skills
Speaker 3: for this new burgeoning economy. And so I give the
Speaker 3: President one hundred percent support. And what he's trying to do,
Speaker 3: I just think he has to incentivize through the three
Speaker 3: or four different plans, And I just articulated. So that again,
Speaker 3: the bulk of that that hurt, that pain is it
Speaker 3: felt on working class people.
Speaker 2: Let's talking about guns. You're a big gun glove guns love.
Speaker 2: He loves guns. He loves guns. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you saw I got. I got to train with former
Speaker 2: dev Group operator DJ Shipley.
Speaker 1: Can I cuss on your podcast?
Speaker 2: No, but we'll bleep that out.
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, man bad.
Speaker 2: That's okay, we'll bleep it. We'll bleep it. But that's
Speaker 2: a great reaction. Yeah, No, I got the train with DJ.
Speaker 2: It was do you know DJ? Dj is amazing?
Speaker 1: Of course, I know you kidding me, dude, That's why
Speaker 1: I said.
Speaker 2: No and weight that's yeah, you've got you do. I'll
Speaker 2: I know a guy I could put you in. Tell
Speaker 2: you gotta cause you know you've got your project going now.
Speaker 2: I mean, you guys should GBRS group. You should definitely
Speaker 2: do something with project with them. Yeah, So he was amazing.
Speaker 2: It was, Honestly, I've done I've trained with a lot
Speaker 2: of different UH operators from the past and including when
Speaker 2: I was in the CIA. We were trained by operators
Speaker 2: to be outgoing CIA officers, right, so they would bring
Speaker 2: in I mean they bring in Marsakuy, Seals, Delta, whomever,
Speaker 2: and they would run the basic basics of training for us, right,
Speaker 2: So it was a great foundation for us. You know,
Speaker 2: they can obviously take you all the way up to
Speaker 2: far more advanced stuff, but they were it was like,
Speaker 2: it's like learning how to drive from an F one driver.
Speaker 2: Like that was kind of kind of how it was
Speaker 2: in the CIA. I'm like, uh, I was like, you're
Speaker 2: Seal Team six and you're like teaching me how to
Speaker 2: or you know, they were Seal Team six and then
Speaker 2: was yeah, some of them were training me how to
Speaker 2: do stuff. Anyway, DJ Shipley's amazing. So anybody who wants
Speaker 2: to train would DJ Yeah, yeah, I would say, go
Speaker 2: go find a way to get yourself in a GBRS class.
Speaker 2: They are doing some classes now for the general public
Speaker 2: and I highly recommend it. Anyway. Tell me about what
Speaker 2: you're doing though, uh, and what what you're up to
Speaker 2: now in that space, because I think stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, before I get into that, I just I really
Speaker 3: have to ask, and I've never asked you this in
Speaker 3: terms of that direct training, what for you did you
Speaker 3: enjoy most?
Speaker 1: For me, We've had the I've had.
Speaker 3: The opportunity to train with a lot of socom guys
Speaker 3: doing a lot of CQB. I absofrecinlutely love CQB, whether
Speaker 3: it's with the team or whether it's my you know,
Speaker 3: by myself, just learning how to properly pie around corners,
Speaker 3: learning how to properly engage, learning how to expect the unexpected.
Speaker 1: I absolutely love that stuff.
Speaker 3: It gets the heart flow and the adrenaline pumping it
Speaker 3: as hard as hell, But I love it.
Speaker 1: But what for like? What for you?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: What did you love about that training?
Speaker 2: I'm just all it will just you're getting the best
Speaker 2: instruction imaginable in honestly a lot of the fundamentals which
Speaker 2: I think people sometimes sometimes people overlook. I mean I
Speaker 2: spent I mean DJ can sit there and did He'll
Speaker 2: sit there and he'll talk to you about GRIP. In
Speaker 2: the middle of a training session, He'll talk to you
Speaker 2: about GRIP for like ten minutes, just just talking about
Speaker 2: different and just you know, the level of knowledge. Like
Speaker 2: I've been around people who are at the top of
Speaker 2: their game in different things. You're around somebody who's are
Speaker 2: truly top of their and it's not all theoretical. This
Speaker 2: is a guy who's done many combat tours and has
Speaker 2: been in the most kind of real deal close quarters
Speaker 2: battle imaginable, right, I mean, he's a Seal Team six
Speaker 2: operator at the peak of the Global War on Terror.
Speaker 2: I know when I was a CIA what these guys
Speaker 2: are doing. So I mean he could It's like, how
Speaker 2: deep do you want to go on the subject? He
Speaker 2: can go that deep. And so for me, it was
Speaker 2: really just trying to lock down more fundamentals because look,
Speaker 2: here's the reality. This is a whole other conversation. But
Speaker 2: you and I both know most people and these are
Speaker 2: like a lot of our two way people that we
Speaker 2: love because they're you know, they believe the right to
Speaker 2: bear arms. They're doing their part. But for most people
Speaker 2: going to the range and you know, and I'm not
Speaker 2: casting any aspersions because I I've seen this and I've
Speaker 2: been in this situation too. You go, you bring your gun,
Speaker 2: there's ten people in a line, you know, maybe there's
Speaker 2: plexiglass next to you or whatever, and you're indoors and
Speaker 2: you take your gun out and you pop off some
Speaker 2: rounds and you're focused in on uh, you know, what
Speaker 2: is my what is my a grouping? Or you know,
Speaker 2: can I can I do what Mel Gibson did in
Speaker 2: Lethal Weapon and make a smiley face on this target
Speaker 2: or you know whatever? Right? And you know with one hand,
Speaker 2: by the way, I mean, the whole thing was like
Speaker 2: remember when he was doing the spinning around on the
Speaker 2: ground and shooting the spinning around on the on the
Speaker 2: floor shooting the guy, Like, the whole thing so absurd.
Speaker 2: But I love I love Mel Gibson, I love Leath
Speaker 2: the Weapon movies. But the thing is, when you go
Speaker 2: to the range, you do that that is not training
Speaker 2: you to do anything actually with your gun in any
Speaker 2: scenario whatsoever. That is the that's I would say, that's
Speaker 2: that's basic fam that you could really almost get in
Speaker 2: a classroom without doing live fire, right. I mean, you're
Speaker 2: really not getting very much out of that experience. You're
Speaker 2: not coming out of the draw. You're not learning to
Speaker 2: you know, you're not practicing at speed, You're not you're
Speaker 2: not doing bill drills, you're not doing tactical religion, right.
Speaker 2: I mean you and I see your drive, yeah, and
Speaker 2: so and and so. When you know, when when you
Speaker 2: start to add in these different pieces, I mean for me,
Speaker 2: I like, I mean, I love pistol shooting, I mean, look,
Speaker 2: I've got my I've got my ar here, and I
Speaker 2: got some fun stuff all you know, hit it up
Speaker 2: with it and whatever. But I like pistol shooting, and
Speaker 2: I like pistol shooting based on the you know, rather
Speaker 2: focusing on the fundamentals and what are the situations in
Speaker 2: which I would actually have to use a farm to
Speaker 2: found myself? God forbid I ever do. But I want
Speaker 2: to be at a place where I know that if
Speaker 2: I had to, I'm trained. And that's kind of much. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's my thing.
Speaker 1: I love that, bro. You want it to be reflexive,
Speaker 1: and and again I agree with you.
Speaker 3: Look, I say go to the range for the normal
Speaker 3: person to get used to the mechanical mechanism and operation
Speaker 3: of your firearm if it's on your nightstand or if
Speaker 3: you're carrying it.
Speaker 2: On that's a step one for sure. You gotta you
Speaker 2: gotta like loaded fire and see what that's like.
Speaker 1: But that's to your point, though, Buck.
Speaker 3: You you have to put yourself in scenarios, and that's
Speaker 3: why you have a lot of defensive pistol courses.
Speaker 1: You got to put yourself.
Speaker 3: In a scenario to know how in the hell would
Speaker 3: I react if I'm stressed through the roof, if I'm
Speaker 3: not thinking right, if there's a lot going on around me,
Speaker 3: I got to make sure I don't hit an innocent person,
Speaker 3: if you're being accosting. There's just so many things that
Speaker 3: goes into training. I highly recommend it. And this, you know,
Speaker 3: gets into your question you asked, you know what I'm
Speaker 3: working on right now. So I just launched this new
Speaker 3: network called We the Free. Obviously big Second Amendment guy,
Speaker 3: love freedom, freedom.
Speaker 1: Of speech, you know, tied to my right to keep it.
Speaker 3: It's a firearm streaming platform and we're looking at a
Speaker 3: couple of different things. So we have our gun training,
Speaker 3: we have our firearms sort of interactive entertainment shows.
Speaker 1: We have action oriented reality shows.
Speaker 3: And then we also have conservative podcast and political commentary.
Speaker 3: Then we have a weekly gun news show that strictly
Speaker 3: new news about only and so I would highly recommend
Speaker 3: your artists to check us out WTF dot tv. That's
Speaker 3: We are Free and we're excited about this buck because
Speaker 3: what I realized was one there isn't really a singular
Speaker 3: place to go if you're a gun person to get
Speaker 3: highly made curated content by gun people for gun people.
Speaker 3: YouTube is constantly demonetizing guys. I had, you know, we
Speaker 3: have a channel on YouTube and we don't even do
Speaker 3: a lot of content on there anymore because you don't
Speaker 3: make any money on it, and a lot of the
Speaker 3: big channels they struggle to make money on YouTube Instagram.
Speaker 3: Even though Zuckerberg has said that they're going to become friendlier,
Speaker 3: we haven't really seen that change. And I got to
Speaker 3: be honest, Buck, as much as I loved the heck
Speaker 3: out of Elon Musk for what he's doing in his ingenuity,
Speaker 3: you know X on occasion, and you even saw a
Speaker 3: couple of manufacturers, you know, have some complaints about this
Speaker 3: a couple of months ago.
Speaker 1: They still have.
Speaker 3: Some provisions at they need to sort of perfect as
Speaker 3: it attains to gun content and the monetization of gun
Speaker 3: content on X. So nevertheless, I sell that to say,
Speaker 3: we decided why not build something for gun people and
Speaker 3: for conservatives, people who care about the Second Amendment, who
Speaker 3: also care about the First Amendment, with a focus really
Speaker 3: on younger to middle aged.
Speaker 1: Men, because that is what we think will be our
Speaker 1: biggest demographic.
Speaker 2: When when can I come and shoot with the WTF
Speaker 2: dot TV folks like I mean, shoot guns while we
Speaker 2: shoot video, Like, when can we do this? You gotta
Speaker 2: tell me, we'd.
Speaker 1: Love to film something with you, whatever the hell you want.
Speaker 2: All right, that happened. This will be fun, all right?
Speaker 2: I got I got a couple of quick quickfire questions
Speaker 2: because we're we're at time, but a couple of quick
Speaker 2: fire questions. You only get one pistol for the rest
Speaker 2: of your life, for the range and one pistol for
Speaker 2: the rest of your life, well, one pistol for the
Speaker 2: zombie apocalypse, Like, this is the pistol that you're gonna
Speaker 2: have to use to defend yourself in every situation, every environment. Whatever.
Speaker 2: What are your go tos right now?
Speaker 3: I am going to go with the sam Viper by Terran.
Speaker 3: Love Terran, He's a good friend. I have the sad Viper.
Speaker 3: I was gonna go with maybe the Chaccato EXL because
Speaker 3: I really really love the Chacado EXL. It's a beautiful pistol,
Speaker 3: but the sad Viper, it just runs like a fine
Speaker 3: tuned machine.
Speaker 2: So that's your range everything, sand Viper Terran range gun.
Speaker 2: What is your zombie what is your zombie apocalypse handgun?
Speaker 2: Like this is the one that you.
Speaker 3: I'm absolut frecolutely bringing the Chicago exl. Absolutely, you're talking
Speaker 3: about what a four and a half inch barrel length,
Speaker 3: so my great line of sight, huge oversized mag well.
Speaker 1: Great, this is this is funny because I have a
Speaker 1: trigger grip, I believe.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it sounds it sounds like we're like sponsored
Speaker 2: by Stacado. Maybe you are. I'm not. I'd love to be.
Speaker 2: I love Staccato because I was gonna say for me
Speaker 2: the range gun, no question, my staccato C two. I
Speaker 2: love that gun. I shoot that gun lights out. It's
Speaker 2: so fun. It's just like and the problem is when
Speaker 2: I shoot that and then people like, hey, do you
Speaker 2: want to try my I'm like, oh no, that peasant tool.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. But because I know it's a
Speaker 2: people call it a rich man's gun. I'm like, look,
Speaker 2: it's expensive. It's a great gun. Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2: But from my zombie apocalypse man, and I know people
Speaker 2: make fun of me, and this is almost it's almost
Speaker 2: like telling somebody I would have like a snubnosed revolver,
Speaker 2: like a thirty eight, you know, old school, like a
Speaker 2: like a detective in the eighties. I'd go glock nineteen man,
Speaker 2: I just feel like I can. I can take that
Speaker 2: thing apart and put it together in the dark. I
Speaker 2: know it will always one. I know what it feels
Speaker 2: like in my hands. To me, it's like the you know,
Speaker 2: it's the it's the equivalent of having like a baseball
Speaker 2: bat with some nails through it. Like it's gonna get
Speaker 2: the job done. You know, you swing that thing, it's
Speaker 2: gonna get the job done.
Speaker 3: So I mean, look, Buck, I can't I can't disagree,
Speaker 3: and I and I gotta add.
Speaker 1: You can always make some adjustments and updates to your glock.
Speaker 1: You can update the trigger. You could put a different
Speaker 1: spring in. You could put in different barrels. You can
Speaker 1: put a sro or whatever they dot you want to put.
Speaker 1: You can you can put a mag wol on it.
Speaker 3: Also, you can do some stipplings so that the grip
Speaker 3: is more textured in your hand, which is something I
Speaker 3: personally prefer. So I actually wouldn't be opposed to a glock.
Speaker 2: Here we go.
Speaker 1: They make good guns.
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like I remember Tim Kennedy told my brother.
Speaker 2: My brother's like, yeah, I got a cold nineteen eleven.
Speaker 2: He's like, did did you get that with your walker?
Speaker 2: We were like, oh.
Speaker 1: Dang, talk about shots fired.
Speaker 2: Good heaven shots fired. Like we were like laughing at it,
Speaker 2: you know when you laugh and it hurts at the
Speaker 2: same time, I was like, damn shot down. That was
Speaker 2: very funny from Tim Kennedy. Anyway, all right, man, hey, Shermichael, guys,
Speaker 2: go go look for him on CNN off obviously follow
Speaker 2: him on social, but go to WTF dot tv and
Speaker 2: maybe you'll see you bucking Shermichael doing like the Keanu
Speaker 2: Reefs thing out at the Tarran Tactical Range at some point,
Speaker 2: you know. Two definitely, dude, let's do some two gun drills.
Speaker 2: I'll text you. It'll be fun. Great to see you,
Speaker 2: my friend. We'll talk soon. Okay, good to see you, Bud.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, man,