WEBVTT - Buck Brief - Are Democrats Ready to Be Less Insane? with Shermichael Singleton 0:00:11.697 --> 0:00:14.977 You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 0:00:14.977 --> 0:00:17.977 you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 0:00:18.017 --> 0:00:19.737 wherever you get your podcasts. 0:00:20.337 --> 0:00:23.857 Shermichael Singleton is in the mix with us today. Shermichael 0:00:23.857 --> 0:00:25.937 and I go way back. You know, I'm from TV 0:00:26.337 --> 0:00:29.857 CNN conservative commentator. He's a gun guy, so he's a 0:00:29.857 --> 0:00:32.857 man after my own heart. Uh, and he's doing great, 0:00:33.097 --> 0:00:34.817 great work these days. We'll talk to him about all 0:00:34.897 --> 0:00:37.817 all of the above. Let's start with this. You know, 0:00:37.857 --> 0:00:40.097 I occasionally get to see some fun clips of you 0:00:40.217 --> 0:00:44.537 on CNN, you and Scott Jennings. I would say standing 0:00:44.577 --> 0:00:48.297 for conservatism, but really just standing for sanity, I think 0:00:48.377 --> 0:00:52.537 is a more apt description of it. But what's it 0:00:52.617 --> 0:00:54.777 like these days? And when you see what the Democrats 0:00:54.897 --> 0:00:59.297 are trying to do, are they actually turning the ship 0:00:59.337 --> 0:01:02.737 around away from crazy town or are they just still 0:01:02.737 --> 0:01:03.657 going right into it? 0:01:04.497 --> 0:01:06.817 First of all, I like I gotta say Buck shout 0:01:06.817 --> 0:01:09.457 out to Scott Jenny's I mean, I love, love, love 0:01:09.497 --> 0:01:10.057 Scott Jenny. 0:01:10.337 --> 0:01:11.857 We text all the time. 0:01:12.297 --> 0:01:14.017 I mean I have a group text with a lot 0:01:14.017 --> 0:01:17.177 of my friends and Scott comes up a lot, and 0:01:17.297 --> 0:01:20.097 some of my friends aren't even Republican, and they respect 0:01:20.137 --> 0:01:23.417 Scott like guys respect Scott Jennings because they look at 0:01:23.457 --> 0:01:26.217 Scott Jennings like this is a guy's guy. And so 0:01:26.297 --> 0:01:27.937 I just want to say shout out to him because 0:01:27.937 --> 0:01:30.137 I have a lot of love and admiration for that guy. 0:01:30.177 --> 0:01:33.817 He's just a really, really good human being, and I 0:01:34.417 --> 0:01:36.657 really feel honored to sort of be on set with him. 0:01:36.697 --> 0:01:39.257 He's been at CNN for almost ten years now. I 0:01:39.337 --> 0:01:41.217 was there for a year, left and now I'm back, 0:01:41.257 --> 0:01:43.297 and so it's just sort of good to have that 0:01:43.417 --> 0:01:46.817 space with someone where you have like minded views about 0:01:46.817 --> 0:01:50.417 a lot of things. To answer your question though about Democrats, 0:01:51.057 --> 0:01:54.977 it's what Gavin Newsom said, the governor California. It's what 0:01:55.057 --> 0:01:58.417 Bennett the Senator of Colorado just said recently. I think 0:01:58.457 --> 0:02:03.537 we're Christen Welker on MSNBC that their party as toxic. 0:02:04.257 --> 0:02:07.617 That is a reality. And they have not learned anything. 0:02:08.017 --> 0:02:12.257 They haven't they haven't gather their thoughts, they haven't paused 0:02:12.297 --> 0:02:14.977 and said, well, let us recollect and figure out why 0:02:14.977 --> 0:02:18.577 did we lose Latino men and women, Why did we 0:02:18.657 --> 0:02:21.657 lose a subset of black men, Why did we lose 0:02:21.737 --> 0:02:24.537 younger men across the demographic board, and why did we 0:02:24.577 --> 0:02:27.537 lose even some young women, depending on what poll you 0:02:27.977 --> 0:02:29.857 want to look at. That they haven't stopped to sort 0:02:29.897 --> 0:02:32.337 of figure any of that out. And while you have 0:02:32.497 --> 0:02:35.057 some of these special elections, I think five of them, 0:02:35.097 --> 0:02:38.297 they may have done that I thought should have gone 0:02:38.337 --> 0:02:40.257 to a Republican And then they're saying, well, see that 0:02:40.337 --> 0:02:42.137 means we were right just last year. 0:02:42.137 --> 0:02:42.857 It was just a fluke. 0:02:43.417 --> 0:02:46.417 Well, I would say not necessarily because even in those races, 0:02:46.737 --> 0:02:51.057 it didn't change the shape of power in the legislature 0:02:51.337 --> 0:02:54.777 and those two stays, Pennsylvania being one. Then they want 0:02:54.777 --> 0:02:57.097 to bring a to say, oh, we're going to be 0:02:57.537 --> 0:03:01.777 a big deal for us. Nonsense, thirty plus our district. Yeah, 0:03:01.817 --> 0:03:05.257 the candidate there may underperform the president, not because people 0:03:05.297 --> 0:03:07.137 are pissed, to be quite frank, if you look at 0:03:07.177 --> 0:03:09.977 the reporter at the Hill, but you're down in Florida, 0:03:10.137 --> 0:03:12.257 this candidate, I'm gonna be honest, Buck, and I don't 0:03:12.257 --> 0:03:14.017 know what your thoughts are on this, but in my opinion, 0:03:14.617 --> 0:03:15.257 he's kind. 0:03:15.057 --> 0:03:15.977 Of been a lazy guy. 0:03:16.257 --> 0:03:18.497 That's why he's gonna slightly perform a little worse than 0:03:18.537 --> 0:03:21.777 President Trump. Has nothing to do with any other dynamics 0:03:21.777 --> 0:03:23.497 that the media and Democrats are trying. 0:03:23.297 --> 0:03:25.097 To if I could just be fair, I don't actually know, 0:03:25.177 --> 0:03:27.057 Randy Fine, we had them on the show recently. But 0:03:27.697 --> 0:03:29.657 when you think you're in a plus thirty, you know, 0:03:29.657 --> 0:03:31.617 I'm sure a lot of Democrats who are running in 0:03:31.897 --> 0:03:35.937 San Francisco and you know, like the northern part of 0:03:36.017 --> 0:03:38.617 Virginia that's right next to DC, they probably get a 0:03:38.617 --> 0:03:40.737 little lazy too, and so far as they're like, look, 0:03:40.777 --> 0:03:43.217 I'm gonna win this thing, right, So that's true, it's 0:03:43.297 --> 0:03:46.617 tough to get. No. I mean, I've s The point. 0:03:46.457 --> 0:03:50.417 I'm trying to make though a buck is that the 0:03:50.457 --> 0:03:52.857 way they're trying to create the narrative is like, oh, 0:03:52.937 --> 0:03:55.337 this person is going to underperform because. 0:03:55.017 --> 0:03:56.017 We're doing so well. 0:03:56.017 --> 0:03:58.057 And what I'm simply saying is that's not the case. 0:03:58.377 --> 0:04:00.537 And then even in Wisconsin they said, oh, this is 0:04:00.577 --> 0:04:04.857 another big bell weather. There is a retiring Democratic state 0:04:05.617 --> 0:04:09.977 Supreme Court justice who's retiring. If Democrats win that sea, 0:04:10.737 --> 0:04:14.577 they're not replacing a Republican. This isn't some big upset. 0:04:15.057 --> 0:04:17.857 And the fact that we have spent in total eighty 0:04:17.937 --> 0:04:21.337 both sides over eighty million dollars in this race if 0:04:21.377 --> 0:04:23.297 they do win this seat, which I think there's a 0:04:23.297 --> 0:04:26.217 good chance that they might. The fact that we forced 0:04:26.257 --> 0:04:30.337 them to spend so much money buck suggests the strength 0:04:30.697 --> 0:04:35.617 on our side, not necessarily this rebound of Democrats. So 0:04:35.857 --> 0:04:38.897 I'm pointing out those examples and the other special elections 0:04:38.897 --> 0:04:41.777 to simply say that, in my opinion, they have not 0:04:41.937 --> 0:04:43.897 learned anything at all. 0:04:44.297 --> 0:04:46.417 Even on immigration, they haven't learned anything. 0:04:46.417 --> 0:04:49.657 You look at this issue with the signal gate nonsense, 0:04:49.977 --> 0:04:52.457 and look I have said, and I think everybody said, look, 0:04:52.617 --> 0:04:54.817 we could have done this a little differently. Even Walls 0:04:54.977 --> 0:04:56.257 he came out and said, I think a week go 0:04:56.297 --> 0:04:58.737 said look we could have done some things differently. Here 0:04:58.977 --> 0:05:01.737 we acknowledge that the era. We're gonna look at it 0:05:01.777 --> 0:05:03.257 and we're gonna figure out how we're gonna do things 0:05:03.297 --> 0:05:04.137 better moving forward. 0:05:04.177 --> 0:05:05.417 I respect that acknowledgment. 0:05:05.857 --> 0:05:08.657 But anytime I or even Scott Jennings and I said 0:05:08.657 --> 0:05:10.777 this on saying in last Sunday say to the Union 0:05:10.817 --> 0:05:14.057 with Dana Bash I said, if you're going to make 0:05:14.097 --> 0:05:17.937 a moral argument, people are on to keep looking backwards. 0:05:18.057 --> 0:05:20.097 Well I have to look backwards, and I have to 0:05:20.097 --> 0:05:22.857 look backwards because I want to know what credibility you 0:05:22.977 --> 0:05:26.497 bring to this disposition that you're now for me when 0:05:26.537 --> 0:05:29.777 you say, oh, this is hypocrisy. 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That's who you should 0:07:30.737 --> 0:07:33.257 go with. What do you think about tariffs? I was 0:07:33.297 --> 0:07:35.577 just talking about the economy second ago and how that's 0:07:35.697 --> 0:07:38.137 affecting the Market's a bit. You know, as you and 0:07:38.137 --> 0:07:40.377 I are sitting here talking, we're twenty four hours away 0:07:40.537 --> 0:07:45.097 from the big Trump Tariff Day speech. Fortunately not on 0:07:45.137 --> 0:07:46.697 April Fool's Day, right, I think in the day that 0:07:46.697 --> 0:07:50.017 they didn't have it on April Fools, So probably not 0:07:50.097 --> 0:07:52.537 the best day for the tariff speech. So what do 0:07:52.577 --> 0:07:54.177 you what do you think about this? Because this is 0:07:54.217 --> 0:07:56.337 one of those areas where even a lot of Republicans 0:07:56.377 --> 0:07:59.177 who do buy into the Trump agenda are like, look, 0:07:59.217 --> 0:08:02.297 I love Trump, but why this. I hear that from 0:08:02.297 --> 0:08:04.017 a lot of Republicans. I love Trump, I love what 0:08:04.057 --> 0:08:06.137 he's doing on all these things. You know, forget about 0:08:06.177 --> 0:08:08.617 like I'm talking about like Lincoln Project, fake Republicans, I 0:08:08.657 --> 0:08:11.657 mean actual Trump support. They get a little worried about this. 0:08:11.697 --> 0:08:12.417 What do you make of that? 0:08:13.737 --> 0:08:17.057 I get worried before a different reason because I think 0:08:17.137 --> 0:08:20.977 that's assessment and critique of free trade is spot on. 0:08:21.737 --> 0:08:24.217 And if you go back to the early nineties, I mean, hell, 0:08:24.297 --> 0:08:26.657 I was maybe four years old then, so I don't 0:08:26.697 --> 0:08:29.017 remember this. I had to go back and read and 0:08:29.057 --> 0:08:31.297 buck your only what and you're what thirty six, thirty seven, 0:08:31.297 --> 0:08:32.817 so hell you were pretty young too. 0:08:33.097 --> 0:08:35.857 So I'm forty three, sure, Michael. That's just this is 0:08:36.017 --> 0:08:38.497 just a lot of you know, a lot of self 0:08:38.537 --> 0:08:40.377 care over many years. But thank you for that. I 0:08:40.417 --> 0:08:41.137 appreciate that. 0:08:41.657 --> 0:08:44.137 Well, okay, hey bro, you got good genetings, my man. 0:08:44.217 --> 0:08:44.417 Thank you. 0:08:45.857 --> 0:08:48.137 But the thing I was going to make is the 0:08:48.217 --> 0:08:51.377 promise of free trade was that having these free trade 0:08:51.377 --> 0:08:54.177 agreements with Canada, Mexico NAFTA in particular, and there are 0:08:54.217 --> 0:08:56.137 others that we have agreed to over the over the 0:08:56.177 --> 0:08:59.137 time span, that these things would be a net benefit 0:08:59.257 --> 0:09:02.937 to the American consumer of the American people generally speaking, 0:09:02.977 --> 0:09:05.337 because it would lower the cost for a whole set 0:09:05.337 --> 0:09:08.537 of goods. The problem with that is we have seen 0:09:08.617 --> 0:09:11.577 over time is that it can letly destroyed a significant 0:09:11.577 --> 0:09:14.137 sector of the middle class a lot of when you 0:09:14.177 --> 0:09:16.897 talk about the rest belt, for example, you talk and 0:09:16.897 --> 0:09:19.697 you look crisis there, you look at and I'm going 0:09:19.737 --> 0:09:21.777 to bring this up because Democrats talk a lot about 0:09:21.857 --> 0:09:26.577 the implications of tariffs on communities of color. Well, Buck, 0:09:26.977 --> 0:09:30.417 there was a significant subset of black middle class that 0:09:30.617 --> 0:09:33.377 rose out of the manufacturing sector, in part because a 0:09:33.377 --> 0:09:35.577 lot of black men, in particular in some black women, 0:09:35.577 --> 0:09:38.097 but certainly black men were able to get good paying 0:09:38.217 --> 0:09:42.097 jobs for one k's working in those manufacturing plants. When 0:09:42.097 --> 0:09:46.337 those businesses shipped overseas, you saw the complete erosion of 0:09:46.497 --> 0:09:50.097 billions of dollars of net worth for white and black 0:09:50.177 --> 0:09:53.377 working class Americans across this country. And that's why you 0:09:53.417 --> 0:09:56.897 see many places, a lot of places in the rest 0:09:56.937 --> 0:10:00.977 belt that are now desolate. They're almost like desert towns. 0:10:01.017 --> 0:10:03.497 Now you couldn't even imagine that they were once upon 0:10:03.537 --> 0:10:07.257 a time thriving towns. And so Donald Trump's critique that 0:10:07.417 --> 0:10:10.697 tariffs can be an equilibrium if you will, to sort 0:10:10.737 --> 0:10:13.497 of reset and bring at least a quarter of those 0:10:13.617 --> 0:10:17.137 jobs back to the United States, he's right right, And 0:10:17.217 --> 0:10:21.977 why many unions who are not traditionally Republican supporting groups 0:10:22.217 --> 0:10:24.737 are saying, wait a minute here, this would bring back 0:10:24.857 --> 0:10:27.737 potentially hundreds of thousands of jobs which are necessary. 0:10:27.777 --> 0:10:31.537 This would increase pay for a lot of our union members. 0:10:32.217 --> 0:10:35.737 Where I think the President has to be careful is 0:10:36.777 --> 0:10:38.897 on that sort of pass through tax will be to 0:10:38.937 --> 0:10:41.337 the consumers. So when you have tariffs, a manufacturer is 0:10:41.377 --> 0:10:43.257 essentially going to pass it on by increasing the price 0:10:43.297 --> 0:10:45.417 of goods. There are a couple of ways that I 0:10:45.457 --> 0:10:47.777 have been thinking about that I would advise the President 0:10:47.777 --> 0:10:50.297 Buck to consider. You can look at tax and centives 0:10:50.337 --> 0:10:53.177 or credits, so the government can essentially offer tax credits 0:10:53.577 --> 0:10:56.817 or deductions to companies that lower the prices for consumers. 0:10:57.097 --> 0:10:58.857 If the cost to make goods is going to be 0:10:58.857 --> 0:11:01.737 more expensive, you can look at subsidies. For example, let's 0:11:01.737 --> 0:11:03.977 talk about cars. That's been a big conversation. Well, cars 0:11:03.977 --> 0:11:05.337 are going to be more of up to two three 0:11:05.377 --> 0:11:08.777 thousand dollars more. You can look at subsidies to lower costs, 0:11:08.777 --> 0:11:12.177 similarly to what we've done to help reduce the price 0:11:12.217 --> 0:11:15.377 of electric vehicles, which we're still sort of doing. That's 0:11:15.417 --> 0:11:18.417 one potential way to not pass on costs to the consumer. 0:11:18.697 --> 0:11:21.577 And then you have potential pass through pressures pressure, so 0:11:21.577 --> 0:11:25.017 that essentially would be a tax benefit tied to passing 0:11:25.097 --> 0:11:28.937 savings onto consumers. An example like that would be rebates 0:11:28.977 --> 0:11:32.497 or price caps, so companies would essentially be incentivized to 0:11:32.657 --> 0:11:36.777 lower prices to qualify for these rebates. Again, those are 0:11:36.937 --> 0:11:40.537 a comprehensive economic strategies that the president could implement to say, look, 0:11:40.697 --> 0:11:44.577 we understand that these terrors for a little while will 0:11:44.737 --> 0:11:47.657 essentially increase the price of goods on the consumer. So 0:11:47.737 --> 0:11:49.817 let us look at taxes, symtoms and credits for companies. 0:11:49.897 --> 0:11:51.897 Let us look at subsidies lower costs. Let us look 0:11:51.897 --> 0:11:55.097 at pass through such as rebates and price caps so 0:11:55.137 --> 0:11:58.137 that the consumer doesn't have to the bulk of that. 0:11:58.297 --> 0:12:00.977 And so I would advise President Trump but to look 0:12:01.017 --> 0:12:03.537 at some of those measures, because overall, I think he's 0:12:03.577 --> 0:12:06.457 one hundred percent right to focus on saying, hey, we 0:12:06.537 --> 0:12:09.577 have to bring manufacturing back. It's in our national security 0:12:09.577 --> 0:12:11.777 interest to much of our ship is made in China 0:12:12.017 --> 0:12:14.257 that is not good for us. And then two, it 0:12:14.337 --> 0:12:17.057 is good to rebuild the American middle class. Again, not 0:12:17.137 --> 0:12:20.057 everybody is going to be wearing a suit and tie 0:12:20.097 --> 0:12:23.137 and c suite. That that has never been the bulk 0:12:23.257 --> 0:12:26.257 of how people in this country have thrived. So bring 0:12:26.337 --> 0:12:29.177 back good paying jobs where again a lot of men 0:12:29.217 --> 0:12:31.457 who work with their hands and get those trade skills 0:12:31.657 --> 0:12:34.057 for this new burgeoning economy. And so I give the 0:12:34.057 --> 0:12:37.097 President one hundred percent support. And what he's trying to do, 0:12:37.457 --> 0:12:40.137 I just think he has to incentivize through the three 0:12:40.217 --> 0:12:43.537 or four different plans, And I just articulated. So that again, 0:12:43.737 --> 0:12:46.457 the bulk of that that hurt, that pain is it 0:12:46.537 --> 0:12:48.017 felt on working class people. 0:12:48.737 --> 0:12:52.177 Let's talking about guns. You're a big gun glove guns love. 0:12:52.457 --> 0:12:55.297 He loves guns. He loves guns. I don't know if 0:12:55.297 --> 0:12:58.257 you saw I got. I got to train with former 0:12:59.537 --> 0:13:02.257 dev Group operator DJ Shipley. 0:13:03.817 --> 0:13:05.417 Can I cuss on your podcast? 0:13:05.657 --> 0:13:06.737 No, but we'll bleep that out. 0:13:07.697 --> 0:13:09.777 Oh sorry, man bad. 0:13:10.137 --> 0:13:12.097 That's okay, we'll bleep it. We'll bleep it. But that's 0:13:12.137 --> 0:13:14.297 a great reaction. Yeah, No, I got the train with DJ. 0:13:15.017 --> 0:13:16.777 It was do you know DJ? Dj is amazing? 0:13:16.817 --> 0:13:19.057 Of course, I know you kidding me, dude, That's why 0:13:19.057 --> 0:13:19.617 I said. 0:13:19.417 --> 0:13:22.137 No and weight that's yeah, you've got you do. I'll 0:13:22.777 --> 0:13:24.297 I know a guy I could put you in. Tell 0:13:24.337 --> 0:13:26.857 you gotta cause you know you've got your project going now. 0:13:26.897 --> 0:13:29.897 I mean, you guys should GBRS group. You should definitely 0:13:30.057 --> 0:13:33.817 do something with project with them. Yeah, So he was amazing. 0:13:33.857 --> 0:13:35.937 It was, Honestly, I've done I've trained with a lot 0:13:35.977 --> 0:13:39.057 of different UH operators from the past and including when 0:13:39.057 --> 0:13:41.177 I was in the CIA. We were trained by operators 0:13:41.217 --> 0:13:43.817 to be outgoing CIA officers, right, so they would bring 0:13:43.897 --> 0:13:47.577 in I mean they bring in Marsakuy, Seals, Delta, whomever, 0:13:47.617 --> 0:13:50.697 and they would run the basic basics of training for us, right, 0:13:50.737 --> 0:13:53.377 So it was a great foundation for us. You know, 0:13:53.377 --> 0:13:54.857 they can obviously take you all the way up to 0:13:54.977 --> 0:13:56.937 far more advanced stuff, but they were it was like, 0:13:57.217 --> 0:13:59.297 it's like learning how to drive from an F one driver. 0:13:59.417 --> 0:14:01.537 Like that was kind of kind of how it was 0:14:01.617 --> 0:14:03.537 in the CIA. I'm like, uh, I was like, you're 0:14:03.777 --> 0:14:05.857 Seal Team six and you're like teaching me how to 0:14:05.937 --> 0:14:07.777 or you know, they were Seal Team six and then 0:14:08.337 --> 0:14:09.697 was yeah, some of them were training me how to 0:14:09.737 --> 0:14:12.857 do stuff. Anyway, DJ Shipley's amazing. So anybody who wants 0:14:12.857 --> 0:14:16.177 to train would DJ Yeah, yeah, I would say, go 0:14:16.177 --> 0:14:18.777 go find a way to get yourself in a GBRS class. 0:14:18.817 --> 0:14:21.777 They are doing some classes now for the general public 0:14:22.377 --> 0:14:25.497 and I highly recommend it. Anyway. Tell me about what 0:14:25.537 --> 0:14:27.897 you're doing though, uh, and what what you're up to 0:14:28.017 --> 0:14:30.937 now in that space, because I think stuff. 0:14:30.977 --> 0:14:32.777 Yeah, before I get into that, I just I really 0:14:32.777 --> 0:14:35.017 have to ask, and I've never asked you this in 0:14:35.097 --> 0:14:38.737 terms of that direct training, what for you did you 0:14:38.937 --> 0:14:39.737 enjoy most? 0:14:39.817 --> 0:14:41.577 For me, We've had the I've had. 0:14:41.537 --> 0:14:43.817 The opportunity to train with a lot of socom guys 0:14:44.097 --> 0:14:49.737 doing a lot of CQB. I absofrecinlutely love CQB, whether 0:14:49.777 --> 0:14:52.217 it's with the team or whether it's my you know, 0:14:52.257 --> 0:14:55.457 by myself, just learning how to properly pie around corners, 0:14:55.537 --> 0:14:59.417 learning how to properly engage, learning how to expect the unexpected. 0:14:59.817 --> 0:15:01.177 I absolutely love that stuff. 0:15:01.257 --> 0:15:03.537 It gets the heart flow and the adrenaline pumping it 0:15:03.617 --> 0:15:05.777 as hard as hell, But I love it. 0:15:05.817 --> 0:15:06.857 But what for like? What for you? 0:15:06.937 --> 0:15:07.017 Like? 0:15:07.017 --> 0:15:08.457 What did you love about that training? 0:15:08.457 --> 0:15:12.737 I'm just all it will just you're getting the best 0:15:13.017 --> 0:15:17.257 instruction imaginable in honestly a lot of the fundamentals which 0:15:17.297 --> 0:15:20.857 I think people sometimes sometimes people overlook. I mean I 0:15:20.937 --> 0:15:23.617 spent I mean DJ can sit there and did He'll 0:15:23.617 --> 0:15:26.217 sit there and he'll talk to you about GRIP. In 0:15:26.257 --> 0:15:27.857 the middle of a training session, He'll talk to you 0:15:27.857 --> 0:15:31.017 about GRIP for like ten minutes, just just talking about 0:15:31.057 --> 0:15:35.257 different and just you know, the level of knowledge. Like 0:15:35.297 --> 0:15:36.937 I've been around people who are at the top of 0:15:36.977 --> 0:15:38.977 their game in different things. You're around somebody who's are 0:15:39.017 --> 0:15:41.417 truly top of their and it's not all theoretical. This 0:15:41.457 --> 0:15:45.457 is a guy who's done many combat tours and has 0:15:45.497 --> 0:15:48.177 been in the most kind of real deal close quarters 0:15:48.177 --> 0:15:50.657 battle imaginable, right, I mean, he's a Seal Team six 0:15:50.697 --> 0:15:53.537 operator at the peak of the Global War on Terror. 0:15:53.657 --> 0:15:55.257 I know when I was a CIA what these guys 0:15:55.257 --> 0:15:57.377 are doing. So I mean he could It's like, how 0:15:57.417 --> 0:15:59.017 deep do you want to go on the subject? He 0:15:59.057 --> 0:16:01.977 can go that deep. And so for me, it was 0:16:02.057 --> 0:16:05.017 really just trying to lock down more fundamentals because look, 0:16:05.177 --> 0:16:07.257 here's the reality. This is a whole other conversation. But 0:16:07.577 --> 0:16:09.817 you and I both know most people and these are 0:16:09.817 --> 0:16:11.697 like a lot of our two way people that we 0:16:11.737 --> 0:16:13.977 love because they're you know, they believe the right to 0:16:13.977 --> 0:16:16.137 bear arms. They're doing their part. But for most people 0:16:16.537 --> 0:16:19.097 going to the range and you know, and I'm not 0:16:19.137 --> 0:16:21.977 casting any aspersions because I I've seen this and I've 0:16:21.977 --> 0:16:24.577 been in this situation too. You go, you bring your gun, 0:16:25.017 --> 0:16:27.137 there's ten people in a line, you know, maybe there's 0:16:27.177 --> 0:16:30.897 plexiglass next to you or whatever, and you're indoors and 0:16:30.937 --> 0:16:33.217 you take your gun out and you pop off some 0:16:33.377 --> 0:16:36.777 rounds and you're focused in on uh, you know, what 0:16:36.857 --> 0:16:39.977 is my what is my a grouping? Or you know, 0:16:40.017 --> 0:16:41.577 can I can I do what Mel Gibson did in 0:16:41.657 --> 0:16:43.857 Lethal Weapon and make a smiley face on this target 0:16:43.977 --> 0:16:47.537 or you know whatever? Right? And you know with one hand, 0:16:47.577 --> 0:16:48.617 by the way, I mean, the whole thing was like 0:16:49.257 --> 0:16:51.057 remember when he was doing the spinning around on the 0:16:51.057 --> 0:16:53.417 ground and shooting the spinning around on the on the 0:16:53.417 --> 0:16:55.297 floor shooting the guy, Like, the whole thing so absurd. 0:16:55.337 --> 0:16:57.177 But I love I love Mel Gibson, I love Leath 0:16:57.177 --> 0:16:59.657 the Weapon movies. But the thing is, when you go 0:16:59.697 --> 0:17:01.337 to the range, you do that that is not training 0:17:01.377 --> 0:17:03.137 you to do anything actually with your gun in any 0:17:03.137 --> 0:17:06.497 scenario whatsoever. That is the that's I would say, that's 0:17:06.577 --> 0:17:09.897 that's basic fam that you could really almost get in 0:17:09.937 --> 0:17:12.257 a classroom without doing live fire, right. I mean, you're 0:17:12.297 --> 0:17:15.977 really not getting very much out of that experience. You're 0:17:16.017 --> 0:17:18.257 not coming out of the draw. You're not learning to 0:17:18.377 --> 0:17:21.857 you know, you're not practicing at speed, You're not you're 0:17:21.897 --> 0:17:24.657 not doing bill drills, you're not doing tactical religion, right. 0:17:24.697 --> 0:17:26.657 I mean you and I see your drive, yeah, and 0:17:26.737 --> 0:17:28.897 so and and so. When you know, when when you 0:17:28.937 --> 0:17:31.057 start to add in these different pieces, I mean for me, 0:17:31.897 --> 0:17:34.657 I like, I mean, I love pistol shooting, I mean, look, 0:17:34.657 --> 0:17:36.417 I've got my I've got my ar here, and I 0:17:36.457 --> 0:17:38.457 got some fun stuff all you know, hit it up 0:17:38.497 --> 0:17:41.377 with it and whatever. But I like pistol shooting, and 0:17:41.577 --> 0:17:45.417 I like pistol shooting based on the you know, rather 0:17:45.737 --> 0:17:49.377 focusing on the fundamentals and what are the situations in 0:17:49.377 --> 0:17:51.097 which I would actually have to use a farm to 0:17:51.177 --> 0:17:53.737 found myself? God forbid I ever do. But I want 0:17:53.737 --> 0:17:55.337 to be at a place where I know that if 0:17:55.337 --> 0:17:59.857 I had to, I'm trained. And that's kind of much. Yeah, yeah, 0:17:59.897 --> 0:18:00.377 that's my thing. 0:18:00.497 --> 0:18:02.577 I love that, bro. You want it to be reflexive, 0:18:02.617 --> 0:18:03.777 and and again I agree with you. 0:18:03.857 --> 0:18:06.417 Look, I say go to the range for the normal 0:18:06.457 --> 0:18:10.977 person to get used to the mechanical mechanism and operation 0:18:11.057 --> 0:18:14.137 of your firearm if it's on your nightstand or if 0:18:14.137 --> 0:18:14.777 you're carrying it. 0:18:14.737 --> 0:18:16.697 On that's a step one for sure. You gotta you 0:18:16.697 --> 0:18:18.937 gotta like loaded fire and see what that's like. 0:18:19.057 --> 0:18:21.457 But that's to your point, though, Buck. 0:18:22.137 --> 0:18:25.097 You you have to put yourself in scenarios, and that's 0:18:25.097 --> 0:18:27.097 why you have a lot of defensive pistol courses. 0:18:27.257 --> 0:18:28.377 You got to put yourself. 0:18:28.097 --> 0:18:30.377 In a scenario to know how in the hell would 0:18:30.377 --> 0:18:33.537 I react if I'm stressed through the roof, if I'm 0:18:33.577 --> 0:18:36.017 not thinking right, if there's a lot going on around me, 0:18:36.697 --> 0:18:39.017 I got to make sure I don't hit an innocent person, 0:18:39.057 --> 0:18:41.017 if you're being accosting. There's just so many things that 0:18:41.097 --> 0:18:44.777 goes into training. I highly recommend it. And this, you know, 0:18:44.817 --> 0:18:46.977 gets into your question you asked, you know what I'm 0:18:47.017 --> 0:18:49.617 working on right now. So I just launched this new 0:18:49.657 --> 0:18:53.217 network called We the Free. Obviously big Second Amendment guy, 0:18:53.417 --> 0:18:54.817