1 00:00:11,697 --> 00:00:14,977 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 2 00:00:14,977 --> 00:00:17,977 Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 3 00:00:18,017 --> 00:00:19,737 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. 4 00:00:20,337 --> 00:00:23,857 Speaker 2: Shermichael Singleton is in the mix with us today. Shermichael 5 00:00:23,857 --> 00:00:25,937 Speaker 2: and I go way back. You know, I'm from TV 6 00:00:26,337 --> 00:00:29,857 Speaker 2: CNN conservative commentator. He's a gun guy, so he's a 7 00:00:29,857 --> 00:00:32,857 Speaker 2: man after my own heart. Uh, and he's doing great, 8 00:00:33,097 --> 00:00:34,817 Speaker 2: great work these days. We'll talk to him about all 9 00:00:34,897 --> 00:00:37,817 Speaker 2: all of the above. Let's start with this. You know, 10 00:00:37,857 --> 00:00:40,097 Speaker 2: I occasionally get to see some fun clips of you 11 00:00:40,217 --> 00:00:44,537 Speaker 2: on CNN, you and Scott Jennings. I would say standing 12 00:00:44,577 --> 00:00:48,297 Speaker 2: for conservatism, but really just standing for sanity, I think 13 00:00:48,377 --> 00:00:52,537 Speaker 2: is a more apt description of it. But what's it 14 00:00:52,617 --> 00:00:54,777 Speaker 2: like these days? And when you see what the Democrats 15 00:00:54,897 --> 00:00:59,297 Speaker 2: are trying to do, are they actually turning the ship 16 00:00:59,337 --> 00:01:02,737 Speaker 2: around away from crazy town or are they just still 17 00:01:02,737 --> 00:01:03,657 Speaker 2: going right into it? 18 00:01:04,497 --> 00:01:06,817 Speaker 3: First of all, I like I gotta say Buck shout 19 00:01:06,817 --> 00:01:09,457 Speaker 3: out to Scott Jenny's I mean, I love, love, love 20 00:01:09,497 --> 00:01:10,057 Speaker 3: Scott Jenny. 21 00:01:10,337 --> 00:01:11,857 Speaker 1: We text all the time. 22 00:01:12,297 --> 00:01:14,017 Speaker 3: I mean I have a group text with a lot 23 00:01:14,017 --> 00:01:17,177 Speaker 3: of my friends and Scott comes up a lot, and 24 00:01:17,297 --> 00:01:20,097 Speaker 3: some of my friends aren't even Republican, and they respect 25 00:01:20,137 --> 00:01:23,417 Speaker 3: Scott like guys respect Scott Jennings because they look at 26 00:01:23,457 --> 00:01:26,217 Speaker 3: Scott Jennings like this is a guy's guy. And so 27 00:01:26,297 --> 00:01:27,937 Speaker 3: I just want to say shout out to him because 28 00:01:27,937 --> 00:01:30,137 Speaker 3: I have a lot of love and admiration for that guy. 29 00:01:30,177 --> 00:01:33,817 Speaker 3: He's just a really, really good human being, and I 30 00:01:34,417 --> 00:01:36,657 Speaker 3: really feel honored to sort of be on set with him. 31 00:01:36,697 --> 00:01:39,257 Speaker 3: He's been at CNN for almost ten years now. I 32 00:01:39,337 --> 00:01:41,217 Speaker 3: was there for a year, left and now I'm back, 33 00:01:41,257 --> 00:01:43,297 Speaker 3: and so it's just sort of good to have that 34 00:01:43,417 --> 00:01:46,817 Speaker 3: space with someone where you have like minded views about 35 00:01:46,817 --> 00:01:50,417 Speaker 3: a lot of things. To answer your question though about Democrats, 36 00:01:51,057 --> 00:01:54,977 Speaker 3: it's what Gavin Newsom said, the governor California. It's what 37 00:01:55,057 --> 00:01:58,417 Speaker 3: Bennett the Senator of Colorado just said recently. I think 38 00:01:58,457 --> 00:02:03,537 Speaker 3: we're Christen Welker on MSNBC that their party as toxic. 39 00:02:04,257 --> 00:02:07,617 Speaker 1: That is a reality. And they have not learned anything. 40 00:02:08,017 --> 00:02:12,257 Speaker 3: They haven't they haven't gather their thoughts, they haven't paused 41 00:02:12,297 --> 00:02:14,977 Speaker 3: and said, well, let us recollect and figure out why 42 00:02:14,977 --> 00:02:18,577 Speaker 3: did we lose Latino men and women, Why did we 43 00:02:18,657 --> 00:02:21,657 Speaker 3: lose a subset of black men, Why did we lose 44 00:02:21,737 --> 00:02:24,537 Speaker 3: younger men across the demographic board, and why did we 45 00:02:24,577 --> 00:02:27,537 Speaker 3: lose even some young women, depending on what poll you 46 00:02:27,977 --> 00:02:29,857 Speaker 3: want to look at. That they haven't stopped to sort 47 00:02:29,897 --> 00:02:32,337 Speaker 3: of figure any of that out. And while you have 48 00:02:32,497 --> 00:02:35,057 Speaker 3: some of these special elections, I think five of them, 49 00:02:35,097 --> 00:02:38,297 Speaker 3: they may have done that I thought should have gone 50 00:02:38,337 --> 00:02:40,257 Speaker 3: to a Republican And then they're saying, well, see that 51 00:02:40,337 --> 00:02:42,137 Speaker 3: means we were right just last year. 52 00:02:42,137 --> 00:02:42,857 Speaker 1: It was just a fluke. 53 00:02:43,417 --> 00:02:46,417 Speaker 3: Well, I would say not necessarily because even in those races, 54 00:02:46,737 --> 00:02:51,057 Speaker 3: it didn't change the shape of power in the legislature 55 00:02:51,337 --> 00:02:54,777 Speaker 3: and those two stays, Pennsylvania being one. Then they want 56 00:02:54,777 --> 00:02:57,097 Speaker 3: to bring a to say, oh, we're going to be 57 00:02:57,537 --> 00:03:01,777 Speaker 3: a big deal for us. Nonsense, thirty plus our district. Yeah, 58 00:03:01,817 --> 00:03:05,257 Speaker 3: the candidate there may underperform the president, not because people 59 00:03:05,297 --> 00:03:07,137 Speaker 3: are pissed, to be quite frank, if you look at 60 00:03:07,177 --> 00:03:09,977 Speaker 3: the reporter at the Hill, but you're down in Florida, 61 00:03:10,137 --> 00:03:12,257 Speaker 3: this candidate, I'm gonna be honest, Buck, and I don't 62 00:03:12,257 --> 00:03:14,017 Speaker 3: know what your thoughts are on this, but in my opinion, 63 00:03:14,617 --> 00:03:15,257 Speaker 3: he's kind. 64 00:03:15,057 --> 00:03:15,977 Speaker 1: Of been a lazy guy. 65 00:03:16,257 --> 00:03:18,497 Speaker 3: That's why he's gonna slightly perform a little worse than 66 00:03:18,537 --> 00:03:21,777 Speaker 3: President Trump. Has nothing to do with any other dynamics 67 00:03:21,777 --> 00:03:23,497 Speaker 3: that the media and Democrats are trying. 68 00:03:23,297 --> 00:03:25,097 Speaker 2: To if I could just be fair, I don't actually know, 69 00:03:25,177 --> 00:03:27,057 Speaker 2: Randy Fine, we had them on the show recently. But 70 00:03:27,697 --> 00:03:29,657 Speaker 2: when you think you're in a plus thirty, you know, 71 00:03:29,657 --> 00:03:31,617 Speaker 2: I'm sure a lot of Democrats who are running in 72 00:03:31,897 --> 00:03:35,937 Speaker 2: San Francisco and you know, like the northern part of 73 00:03:36,017 --> 00:03:38,617 Speaker 2: Virginia that's right next to DC, they probably get a 74 00:03:38,617 --> 00:03:40,737 Speaker 2: little lazy too, and so far as they're like, look, 75 00:03:40,777 --> 00:03:43,217 Speaker 2: I'm gonna win this thing, right, So that's true, it's 76 00:03:43,297 --> 00:03:46,617 Speaker 2: tough to get. No. I mean, I've s The point. 77 00:03:46,457 --> 00:03:50,417 Speaker 3: I'm trying to make though a buck is that the 78 00:03:50,457 --> 00:03:52,857 Speaker 3: way they're trying to create the narrative is like, oh, 79 00:03:52,937 --> 00:03:55,337 Speaker 3: this person is going to underperform because. 80 00:03:55,017 --> 00:03:56,017 Speaker 1: We're doing so well. 81 00:03:56,017 --> 00:03:58,057 Speaker 3: And what I'm simply saying is that's not the case. 82 00:03:58,377 --> 00:04:00,537 Speaker 3: And then even in Wisconsin they said, oh, this is 83 00:04:00,577 --> 00:04:04,857 Speaker 3: another big bell weather. There is a retiring Democratic state 84 00:04:05,617 --> 00:04:09,977 Speaker 3: Supreme Court justice who's retiring. If Democrats win that sea, 85 00:04:10,737 --> 00:04:14,577 Speaker 3: they're not replacing a Republican. This isn't some big upset. 86 00:04:15,057 --> 00:04:17,857 Speaker 3: And the fact that we have spent in total eighty 87 00:04:17,937 --> 00:04:21,337 Speaker 3: both sides over eighty million dollars in this race if 88 00:04:21,377 --> 00:04:23,297 Speaker 3: they do win this seat, which I think there's a 89 00:04:23,297 --> 00:04:26,217 Speaker 3: good chance that they might. The fact that we forced 90 00:04:26,257 --> 00:04:30,337 Speaker 3: them to spend so much money buck suggests the strength 91 00:04:30,697 --> 00:04:35,617 Speaker 3: on our side, not necessarily this rebound of Democrats. So 92 00:04:35,857 --> 00:04:38,897 Speaker 3: I'm pointing out those examples and the other special elections 93 00:04:38,897 --> 00:04:41,777 Speaker 3: to simply say that, in my opinion, they have not 94 00:04:41,937 --> 00:04:43,897 Speaker 3: learned anything at all. 95 00:04:44,297 --> 00:04:46,417 Speaker 1: Even on immigration, they haven't learned anything. 96 00:04:46,417 --> 00:04:49,657 Speaker 3: You look at this issue with the signal gate nonsense, 97 00:04:49,977 --> 00:04:52,457 Speaker 3: and look I have said, and I think everybody said, look, 98 00:04:52,617 --> 00:04:54,817 Speaker 3: we could have done this a little differently. Even Walls 99 00:04:54,977 --> 00:04:56,257 Speaker 3: he came out and said, I think a week go 100 00:04:56,297 --> 00:04:58,737 Speaker 3: said look we could have done some things differently. Here 101 00:04:58,977 --> 00:05:01,737 Speaker 3: we acknowledge that the era. We're gonna look at it 102 00:05:01,777 --> 00:05:03,257 Speaker 3: and we're gonna figure out how we're gonna do things 103 00:05:03,297 --> 00:05:04,137 Speaker 3: better moving forward. 104 00:05:04,177 --> 00:05:05,417 Speaker 1: I respect that acknowledgment. 105 00:05:05,857 --> 00:05:08,657 Speaker 3: But anytime I or even Scott Jennings and I said 106 00:05:08,657 --> 00:05:10,777 Speaker 3: this on saying in last Sunday say to the Union 107 00:05:10,817 --> 00:05:14,057 Speaker 3: with Dana Bash I said, if you're going to make 108 00:05:14,097 --> 00:05:17,937 Speaker 3: a moral argument, people are on to keep looking backwards. 109 00:05:18,057 --> 00:05:20,097 Speaker 3: Well I have to look backwards, and I have to 110 00:05:20,097 --> 00:05:22,857 Speaker 3: look backwards because I want to know what credibility you 111 00:05:22,977 --> 00:05:26,497 Speaker 3: bring to this disposition that you're now for me when 112 00:05:26,537 --> 00:05:29,777 Speaker 3: you say, oh, this is hypocrisy. It's the worst thing 113 00:05:29,817 --> 00:05:32,377 Speaker 3: that we've seen in America's history in terms of leaks. 114 00:05:32,417 --> 00:05:34,737 Speaker 3: And I can't believe that they would talk like this 115 00:05:34,777 --> 00:05:38,137 Speaker 3: would highly classified information on an app that anybody could download. 116 00:05:38,617 --> 00:05:42,377 Speaker 3: Yet in twenty twenty one, when thirteen American troops were 117 00:05:42,457 --> 00:05:47,337 Speaker 3: murdered dozens more severely wounded, no one asked for anyone 118 00:05:47,337 --> 00:05:51,017 Speaker 3: to be fired Buck And even when one of the 119 00:05:51,057 --> 00:05:54,777 Speaker 3: president's senior advisors wanted to offer his resignation Joe Biden, 120 00:05:54,777 --> 00:05:57,937 Speaker 3: at this time, Sullivan said, I don't want to accept 121 00:05:57,977 --> 00:06:00,657 Speaker 3: your resignation. And so my point simple is if you're 122 00:06:00,697 --> 00:06:03,817 Speaker 3: going to frame an argument around something, have the moral 123 00:06:03,977 --> 00:06:06,537 Speaker 3: standing to say, well, this is what we did. We 124 00:06:06,617 --> 00:06:10,017 Speaker 3: help people to account four years ago, you guys do 125 00:06:10,457 --> 00:06:13,897 Speaker 3: that wasn't the case. And so again another example to 126 00:06:14,017 --> 00:06:17,377 Speaker 3: suggest to me as a strategy is that they have anything. 127 00:06:18,377 --> 00:06:21,057 Speaker 3: And I think whatever elections they may win here or there, 128 00:06:21,537 --> 00:06:25,577 Speaker 3: that to me isn't necessarily about a resurgence of democratic strength, 129 00:06:25,977 --> 00:06:27,377 Speaker 3: and not at all. 130 00:06:27,417 --> 00:06:30,537 Speaker 2: You know, our sponsor here is Birch gold and purchasing 131 00:06:30,577 --> 00:06:34,537 Speaker 2: gold continues to grow with so many Americans because you see, 132 00:06:34,617 --> 00:06:37,857 Speaker 2: we're going into some tough times with the stock market, 133 00:06:38,017 --> 00:06:41,857 Speaker 2: and inflation continues to be stubborn, and there's some disruption ahead. 134 00:06:41,857 --> 00:06:45,217 Speaker 2: I think President Trump is making necessary changes and fixing 135 00:06:45,257 --> 00:06:48,897 Speaker 2: things structurally, but structural change can come with some disruption. 136 00:06:49,417 --> 00:06:51,937 Speaker 2: Now's the time to prepare and to take a portion 137 00:06:52,057 --> 00:06:54,977 Speaker 2: of your savings and put it into gold. Birch Gold 138 00:06:55,017 --> 00:06:57,417 Speaker 2: Group is who I trust, and whether there's volatility in 139 00:06:57,457 --> 00:07:00,737 Speaker 2: the markets, knowing you've got physical gold on hand is 140 00:07:00,857 --> 00:07:03,137 Speaker 2: just giving you peace of mind knowing that you've got 141 00:07:03,497 --> 00:07:08,137 Speaker 2: assets stored in something that is historically going to hold value. 142 00:07:08,497 --> 00:07:10,977 Speaker 2: And you can also take an existing IRA or four 143 00:07:11,017 --> 00:07:13,497 Speaker 2: oh one K and convert it with Birch Gold's help 144 00:07:13,657 --> 00:07:17,017 Speaker 2: into a tax sheltered IRA in physical gold for no 145 00:07:17,097 --> 00:07:19,657 Speaker 2: money out of pocket. Get your free info kid on 146 00:07:19,697 --> 00:07:21,697 Speaker 2: gold by texting my name Buck the number ninety eight 147 00:07:21,817 --> 00:07:25,257 Speaker 2: ninety eight ninety eight. No obligation, just useful information. Text 148 00:07:25,337 --> 00:07:28,857 Speaker 2: Buck do ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight and Birch 149 00:07:28,897 --> 00:07:30,697 Speaker 2: Gold will be there for you. That's who you should 150 00:07:30,737 --> 00:07:33,257 Speaker 2: go with. What do you think about tariffs? I was 151 00:07:33,297 --> 00:07:35,577 Speaker 2: just talking about the economy second ago and how that's 152 00:07:35,697 --> 00:07:38,137 Speaker 2: affecting the Market's a bit. You know, as you and 153 00:07:38,137 --> 00:07:40,377 Speaker 2: I are sitting here talking, we're twenty four hours away 154 00:07:40,537 --> 00:07:45,097 Speaker 2: from the big Trump Tariff Day speech. Fortunately not on 155 00:07:45,137 --> 00:07:46,697 Speaker 2: April Fool's Day, right, I think in the day that 156 00:07:46,697 --> 00:07:50,017 Speaker 2: they didn't have it on April Fools, So probably not 157 00:07:50,097 --> 00:07:52,537 Speaker 2: the best day for the tariff speech. So what do 158 00:07:52,577 --> 00:07:54,177 Speaker 2: you what do you think about this? Because this is 159 00:07:54,217 --> 00:07:56,337 Speaker 2: one of those areas where even a lot of Republicans 160 00:07:56,377 --> 00:07:59,177 Speaker 2: who do buy into the Trump agenda are like, look, 161 00:07:59,217 --> 00:08:02,297 Speaker 2: I love Trump, but why this. I hear that from 162 00:08:02,297 --> 00:08:04,017 Speaker 2: a lot of Republicans. I love Trump, I love what 163 00:08:04,057 --> 00:08:06,137 Speaker 2: he's doing on all these things. You know, forget about 164 00:08:06,177 --> 00:08:08,617 Speaker 2: like I'm talking about like Lincoln Project, fake Republicans, I 165 00:08:08,657 --> 00:08:11,657 Speaker 2: mean actual Trump support. They get a little worried about this. 166 00:08:11,697 --> 00:08:12,417 Speaker 2: What do you make of that? 167 00:08:13,737 --> 00:08:17,057 Speaker 3: I get worried before a different reason because I think 168 00:08:17,137 --> 00:08:20,977 Speaker 3: that's assessment and critique of free trade is spot on. 169 00:08:21,737 --> 00:08:24,217 Speaker 3: And if you go back to the early nineties, I mean, hell, 170 00:08:24,297 --> 00:08:26,657 Speaker 3: I was maybe four years old then, so I don't 171 00:08:26,697 --> 00:08:29,017 Speaker 3: remember this. I had to go back and read and 172 00:08:29,057 --> 00:08:31,297 Speaker 3: buck your only what and you're what thirty six, thirty seven, 173 00:08:31,297 --> 00:08:32,817 Speaker 3: so hell you were pretty young too. 174 00:08:33,097 --> 00:08:35,857 Speaker 2: So I'm forty three, sure, Michael. That's just this is 175 00:08:36,017 --> 00:08:38,497 Speaker 2: just a lot of you know, a lot of self 176 00:08:38,537 --> 00:08:40,377 Speaker 2: care over many years. But thank you for that. I 177 00:08:40,417 --> 00:08:41,137 Speaker 2: appreciate that. 178 00:08:41,657 --> 00:08:44,137 Speaker 1: Well, okay, hey bro, you got good genetings, my man. 179 00:08:44,217 --> 00:08:44,417 Speaker 2: Thank you. 180 00:08:45,857 --> 00:08:48,137 Speaker 3: But the thing I was going to make is the 181 00:08:48,217 --> 00:08:51,377 Speaker 3: promise of free trade was that having these free trade 182 00:08:51,377 --> 00:08:54,177 Speaker 3: agreements with Canada, Mexico NAFTA in particular, and there are 183 00:08:54,217 --> 00:08:56,137 Speaker 3: others that we have agreed to over the over the 184 00:08:56,177 --> 00:08:59,137 Speaker 3: time span, that these things would be a net benefit 185 00:08:59,257 --> 00:09:02,937 Speaker 3: to the American consumer of the American people generally speaking, 186 00:09:02,977 --> 00:09:05,337 Speaker 3: because it would lower the cost for a whole set 187 00:09:05,337 --> 00:09:08,537 Speaker 3: of goods. The problem with that is we have seen 188 00:09:08,617 --> 00:09:11,577 Speaker 3: over time is that it can letly destroyed a significant 189 00:09:11,577 --> 00:09:14,137 Speaker 3: sector of the middle class a lot of when you 190 00:09:14,177 --> 00:09:16,897 Speaker 3: talk about the rest belt, for example, you talk and 191 00:09:16,897 --> 00:09:19,697 Speaker 3: you look crisis there, you look at and I'm going 192 00:09:19,737 --> 00:09:21,777 Speaker 3: to bring this up because Democrats talk a lot about 193 00:09:21,857 --> 00:09:26,577 Speaker 3: the implications of tariffs on communities of color. Well, Buck, 194 00:09:26,977 --> 00:09:30,417 Speaker 3: there was a significant subset of black middle class that 195 00:09:30,617 --> 00:09:33,377 Speaker 3: rose out of the manufacturing sector, in part because a 196 00:09:33,377 --> 00:09:35,577 Speaker 3: lot of black men, in particular in some black women, 197 00:09:35,577 --> 00:09:38,097 Speaker 3: but certainly black men were able to get good paying 198 00:09:38,217 --> 00:09:42,097 Speaker 3: jobs for one k's working in those manufacturing plants. When 199 00:09:42,097 --> 00:09:46,337 Speaker 3: those businesses shipped overseas, you saw the complete erosion of 200 00:09:46,497 --> 00:09:50,097 Speaker 3: billions of dollars of net worth for white and black 201 00:09:50,177 --> 00:09:53,377 Speaker 3: working class Americans across this country. And that's why you 202 00:09:53,417 --> 00:09:56,897 Speaker 3: see many places, a lot of places in the rest 203 00:09:56,937 --> 00:10:00,977 Speaker 3: belt that are now desolate. They're almost like desert towns. 204 00:10:01,017 --> 00:10:03,497 Speaker 3: Now you couldn't even imagine that they were once upon 205 00:10:03,537 --> 00:10:07,257 Speaker 3: a time thriving towns. And so Donald Trump's critique that 206 00:10:07,417 --> 00:10:10,697 Speaker 3: tariffs can be an equilibrium if you will, to sort 207 00:10:10,737 --> 00:10:13,497 Speaker 3: of reset and bring at least a quarter of those 208 00:10:13,617 --> 00:10:17,137 Speaker 3: jobs back to the United States, he's right right, And 209 00:10:17,217 --> 00:10:21,977 Speaker 3: why many unions who are not traditionally Republican supporting groups 210 00:10:22,217 --> 00:10:24,737 Speaker 3: are saying, wait a minute here, this would bring back 211 00:10:24,857 --> 00:10:27,737 Speaker 3: potentially hundreds of thousands of jobs which are necessary. 212 00:10:27,777 --> 00:10:31,537 Speaker 1: This would increase pay for a lot of our union members. 213 00:10:32,217 --> 00:10:35,737 Speaker 3: Where I think the President has to be careful is 214 00:10:36,777 --> 00:10:38,897 Speaker 3: on that sort of pass through tax will be to 215 00:10:38,937 --> 00:10:41,337 Speaker 3: the consumers. So when you have tariffs, a manufacturer is 216 00:10:41,377 --> 00:10:43,257 Speaker 3: essentially going to pass it on by increasing the price 217 00:10:43,297 --> 00:10:45,417 Speaker 3: of goods. There are a couple of ways that I 218 00:10:45,457 --> 00:10:47,777 Speaker 3: have been thinking about that I would advise the President 219 00:10:47,777 --> 00:10:50,297 Speaker 3: Buck to consider. You can look at tax and centives 220 00:10:50,337 --> 00:10:53,177 Speaker 3: or credits, so the government can essentially offer tax credits 221 00:10:53,577 --> 00:10:56,817 Speaker 3: or deductions to companies that lower the prices for consumers. 222 00:10:57,097 --> 00:10:58,857 Speaker 3: If the cost to make goods is going to be 223 00:10:58,857 --> 00:11:01,737 Speaker 3: more expensive, you can look at subsidies. For example, let's 224 00:11:01,737 --> 00:11:03,977 Speaker 3: talk about cars. That's been a big conversation. Well, cars 225 00:11:03,977 --> 00:11:05,337 Speaker 3: are going to be more of up to two three 226 00:11:05,377 --> 00:11:08,777 Speaker 3: thousand dollars more. You can look at subsidies to lower costs, 227 00:11:08,777 --> 00:11:12,177 Speaker 3: similarly to what we've done to help reduce the price 228 00:11:12,217 --> 00:11:15,377 Speaker 3: of electric vehicles, which we're still sort of doing. That's 229 00:11:15,417 --> 00:11:18,417 Speaker 3: one potential way to not pass on costs to the consumer. 230 00:11:18,697 --> 00:11:21,577 Speaker 3: And then you have potential pass through pressures pressure, so 231 00:11:21,577 --> 00:11:25,017 Speaker 3: that essentially would be a tax benefit tied to passing 232 00:11:25,097 --> 00:11:28,937 Speaker 3: savings onto consumers. An example like that would be rebates 233 00:11:28,977 --> 00:11:32,497 Speaker 3: or price caps, so companies would essentially be incentivized to 234 00:11:32,657 --> 00:11:36,777 Speaker 3: lower prices to qualify for these rebates. Again, those are 235 00:11:36,937 --> 00:11:40,537 Speaker 3: a comprehensive economic strategies that the president could implement to say, look, 236 00:11:40,697 --> 00:11:44,577 Speaker 3: we understand that these terrors for a little while will 237 00:11:44,737 --> 00:11:47,657 Speaker 3: essentially increase the price of goods on the consumer. So 238 00:11:47,737 --> 00:11:49,817 Speaker 3: let us look at taxes, symtoms and credits for companies. 239 00:11:49,897 --> 00:11:51,897 Speaker 3: Let us look at subsidies lower costs. Let us look 240 00:11:51,897 --> 00:11:55,097 Speaker 3: at pass through such as rebates and price caps so 241 00:11:55,137 --> 00:11:58,137 Speaker 3: that the consumer doesn't have to the bulk of that. 242 00:11:58,297 --> 00:12:00,977 Speaker 3: And so I would advise President Trump but to look 243 00:12:01,017 --> 00:12:03,537 Speaker 3: at some of those measures, because overall, I think he's 244 00:12:03,577 --> 00:12:06,457 Speaker 3: one hundred percent right to focus on saying, hey, we 245 00:12:06,537 --> 00:12:09,577 Speaker 3: have to bring manufacturing back. It's in our national security 246 00:12:09,577 --> 00:12:11,777 Speaker 3: interest to much of our ship is made in China 247 00:12:12,017 --> 00:12:14,257 Speaker 3: that is not good for us. And then two, it 248 00:12:14,337 --> 00:12:17,057 Speaker 3: is good to rebuild the American middle class. Again, not 249 00:12:17,137 --> 00:12:20,057 Speaker 3: everybody is going to be wearing a suit and tie 250 00:12:20,097 --> 00:12:23,137 Speaker 3: and c suite. That that has never been the bulk 251 00:12:23,257 --> 00:12:26,257 Speaker 3: of how people in this country have thrived. So bring 252 00:12:26,337 --> 00:12:29,177 Speaker 3: back good paying jobs where again a lot of men 253 00:12:29,217 --> 00:12:31,457 Speaker 3: who work with their hands and get those trade skills 254 00:12:31,657 --> 00:12:34,057 Speaker 3: for this new burgeoning economy. And so I give the 255 00:12:34,057 --> 00:12:37,097 Speaker 3: President one hundred percent support. And what he's trying to do, 256 00:12:37,457 --> 00:12:40,137 Speaker 3: I just think he has to incentivize through the three 257 00:12:40,217 --> 00:12:43,537 Speaker 3: or four different plans, And I just articulated. So that again, 258 00:12:43,737 --> 00:12:46,457 Speaker 3: the bulk of that that hurt, that pain is it 259 00:12:46,537 --> 00:12:48,017 Speaker 3: felt on working class people. 260 00:12:48,737 --> 00:12:52,177 Speaker 2: Let's talking about guns. You're a big gun glove guns love. 261 00:12:52,457 --> 00:12:55,297 Speaker 2: He loves guns. He loves guns. I don't know if 262 00:12:55,297 --> 00:12:58,257 Speaker 2: you saw I got. I got to train with former 263 00:12:59,537 --> 00:13:02,257 Speaker 2: dev Group operator DJ Shipley. 264 00:13:03,817 --> 00:13:05,417 Speaker 1: Can I cuss on your podcast? 265 00:13:05,657 --> 00:13:06,737 Speaker 2: No, but we'll bleep that out. 266 00:13:07,697 --> 00:13:09,777 Speaker 1: Oh sorry, man bad. 267 00:13:10,137 --> 00:13:12,097 Speaker 2: That's okay, we'll bleep it. We'll bleep it. But that's 268 00:13:12,137 --> 00:13:14,297 Speaker 2: a great reaction. Yeah, No, I got the train with DJ. 269 00:13:15,017 --> 00:13:16,777 Speaker 2: It was do you know DJ? Dj is amazing? 270 00:13:16,817 --> 00:13:19,057 Speaker 1: Of course, I know you kidding me, dude, That's why 271 00:13:19,057 --> 00:13:19,617 Speaker 1: I said. 272 00:13:19,417 --> 00:13:22,137 Speaker 2: No and weight that's yeah, you've got you do. I'll 273 00:13:22,777 --> 00:13:24,297 Speaker 2: I know a guy I could put you in. Tell 274 00:13:24,337 --> 00:13:26,857 Speaker 2: you gotta cause you know you've got your project going now. 275 00:13:26,897 --> 00:13:29,897 Speaker 2: I mean, you guys should GBRS group. You should definitely 276 00:13:30,057 --> 00:13:33,817 Speaker 2: do something with project with them. Yeah, So he was amazing. 277 00:13:33,857 --> 00:13:35,937 Speaker 2: It was, Honestly, I've done I've trained with a lot 278 00:13:35,977 --> 00:13:39,057 Speaker 2: of different UH operators from the past and including when 279 00:13:39,057 --> 00:13:41,177 Speaker 2: I was in the CIA. We were trained by operators 280 00:13:41,217 --> 00:13:43,817 Speaker 2: to be outgoing CIA officers, right, so they would bring 281 00:13:43,897 --> 00:13:47,577 Speaker 2: in I mean they bring in Marsakuy, Seals, Delta, whomever, 282 00:13:47,617 --> 00:13:50,697 Speaker 2: and they would run the basic basics of training for us, right, 283 00:13:50,737 --> 00:13:53,377 Speaker 2: So it was a great foundation for us. You know, 284 00:13:53,377 --> 00:13:54,857 Speaker 2: they can obviously take you all the way up to 285 00:13:54,977 --> 00:13:56,937 Speaker 2: far more advanced stuff, but they were it was like, 286 00:13:57,217 --> 00:13:59,297 Speaker 2: it's like learning how to drive from an F one driver. 287 00:13:59,417 --> 00:14:01,537 Speaker 2: Like that was kind of kind of how it was 288 00:14:01,617 --> 00:14:03,537 Speaker 2: in the CIA. I'm like, uh, I was like, you're 289 00:14:03,777 --> 00:14:05,857 Speaker 2: Seal Team six and you're like teaching me how to 290 00:14:05,937 --> 00:14:07,777 Speaker 2: or you know, they were Seal Team six and then 291 00:14:08,337 --> 00:14:09,697 Speaker 2: was yeah, some of them were training me how to 292 00:14:09,737 --> 00:14:12,857 Speaker 2: do stuff. Anyway, DJ Shipley's amazing. So anybody who wants 293 00:14:12,857 --> 00:14:16,177 Speaker 2: to train would DJ Yeah, yeah, I would say, go 294 00:14:16,177 --> 00:14:18,777 Speaker 2: go find a way to get yourself in a GBRS class. 295 00:14:18,817 --> 00:14:21,777 Speaker 2: They are doing some classes now for the general public 296 00:14:22,377 --> 00:14:25,497 Speaker 2: and I highly recommend it. Anyway. Tell me about what 297 00:14:25,537 --> 00:14:27,897 Speaker 2: you're doing though, uh, and what what you're up to 298 00:14:28,017 --> 00:14:30,937 Speaker 2: now in that space, because I think stuff. 299 00:14:30,977 --> 00:14:32,777 Speaker 3: Yeah, before I get into that, I just I really 300 00:14:32,777 --> 00:14:35,017 Speaker 3: have to ask, and I've never asked you this in 301 00:14:35,097 --> 00:14:38,737 Speaker 3: terms of that direct training, what for you did you 302 00:14:38,937 --> 00:14:39,737 Speaker 3: enjoy most? 303 00:14:39,817 --> 00:14:41,577 Speaker 1: For me, We've had the I've had. 304 00:14:41,537 --> 00:14:43,817 Speaker 3: The opportunity to train with a lot of socom guys 305 00:14:44,097 --> 00:14:49,737 Speaker 3: doing a lot of CQB. I absofrecinlutely love CQB, whether 306 00:14:49,777 --> 00:14:52,217 Speaker 3: it's with the team or whether it's my you know, 307 00:14:52,257 --> 00:14:55,457 Speaker 3: by myself, just learning how to properly pie around corners, 308 00:14:55,537 --> 00:14:59,417 Speaker 3: learning how to properly engage, learning how to expect the unexpected. 309 00:14:59,817 --> 00:15:01,177 Speaker 1: I absolutely love that stuff. 310 00:15:01,257 --> 00:15:03,537 Speaker 3: It gets the heart flow and the adrenaline pumping it 311 00:15:03,617 --> 00:15:05,777 Speaker 3: as hard as hell, But I love it. 312 00:15:05,817 --> 00:15:06,857 Speaker 1: But what for like? What for you? 313 00:15:06,937 --> 00:15:07,017 Speaker 3: Like? 314 00:15:07,017 --> 00:15:08,457 Speaker 1: What did you love about that training? 315 00:15:08,457 --> 00:15:12,737 Speaker 2: I'm just all it will just you're getting the best 316 00:15:13,017 --> 00:15:17,257 Speaker 2: instruction imaginable in honestly a lot of the fundamentals which 317 00:15:17,297 --> 00:15:20,857 Speaker 2: I think people sometimes sometimes people overlook. I mean I 318 00:15:20,937 --> 00:15:23,617 Speaker 2: spent I mean DJ can sit there and did He'll 319 00:15:23,617 --> 00:15:26,217 Speaker 2: sit there and he'll talk to you about GRIP. In 320 00:15:26,257 --> 00:15:27,857 Speaker 2: the middle of a training session, He'll talk to you 321 00:15:27,857 --> 00:15:31,017 Speaker 2: about GRIP for like ten minutes, just just talking about 322 00:15:31,057 --> 00:15:35,257 Speaker 2: different and just you know, the level of knowledge. Like 323 00:15:35,297 --> 00:15:36,937 Speaker 2: I've been around people who are at the top of 324 00:15:36,977 --> 00:15:38,977 Speaker 2: their game in different things. You're around somebody who's are 325 00:15:39,017 --> 00:15:41,417 Speaker 2: truly top of their and it's not all theoretical. This 326 00:15:41,457 --> 00:15:45,457 Speaker 2: is a guy who's done many combat tours and has 327 00:15:45,497 --> 00:15:48,177 Speaker 2: been in the most kind of real deal close quarters 328 00:15:48,177 --> 00:15:50,657 Speaker 2: battle imaginable, right, I mean, he's a Seal Team six 329 00:15:50,697 --> 00:15:53,537 Speaker 2: operator at the peak of the Global War on Terror. 330 00:15:53,657 --> 00:15:55,257 Speaker 2: I know when I was a CIA what these guys 331 00:15:55,257 --> 00:15:57,377 Speaker 2: are doing. So I mean he could It's like, how 332 00:15:57,417 --> 00:15:59,017 Speaker 2: deep do you want to go on the subject? He 333 00:15:59,057 --> 00:16:01,977 Speaker 2: can go that deep. And so for me, it was 334 00:16:02,057 --> 00:16:05,017 Speaker 2: really just trying to lock down more fundamentals because look, 335 00:16:05,177 --> 00:16:07,257 Speaker 2: here's the reality. This is a whole other conversation. But 336 00:16:07,577 --> 00:16:09,817 Speaker 2: you and I both know most people and these are 337 00:16:09,817 --> 00:16:11,697 Speaker 2: like a lot of our two way people that we 338 00:16:11,737 --> 00:16:13,977 Speaker 2: love because they're you know, they believe the right to 339 00:16:13,977 --> 00:16:16,137 Speaker 2: bear arms. They're doing their part. But for most people 340 00:16:16,537 --> 00:16:19,097 Speaker 2: going to the range and you know, and I'm not 341 00:16:19,137 --> 00:16:21,977 Speaker 2: casting any aspersions because I I've seen this and I've 342 00:16:21,977 --> 00:16:24,577 Speaker 2: been in this situation too. You go, you bring your gun, 343 00:16:25,017 --> 00:16:27,137 Speaker 2: there's ten people in a line, you know, maybe there's 344 00:16:27,177 --> 00:16:30,897 Speaker 2: plexiglass next to you or whatever, and you're indoors and 345 00:16:30,937 --> 00:16:33,217 Speaker 2: you take your gun out and you pop off some 346 00:16:33,377 --> 00:16:36,777 Speaker 2: rounds and you're focused in on uh, you know, what 347 00:16:36,857 --> 00:16:39,977 Speaker 2: is my what is my a grouping? Or you know, 348 00:16:40,017 --> 00:16:41,577 Speaker 2: can I can I do what Mel Gibson did in 349 00:16:41,657 --> 00:16:43,857 Speaker 2: Lethal Weapon and make a smiley face on this target 350 00:16:43,977 --> 00:16:47,537 Speaker 2: or you know whatever? Right? And you know with one hand, 351 00:16:47,577 --> 00:16:48,617 Speaker 2: by the way, I mean, the whole thing was like 352 00:16:49,257 --> 00:16:51,057 Speaker 2: remember when he was doing the spinning around on the 353 00:16:51,057 --> 00:16:53,417 Speaker 2: ground and shooting the spinning around on the on the 354 00:16:53,417 --> 00:16:55,297 Speaker 2: floor shooting the guy, Like, the whole thing so absurd. 355 00:16:55,337 --> 00:16:57,177 Speaker 2: But I love I love Mel Gibson, I love Leath 356 00:16:57,177 --> 00:16:59,657 Speaker 2: the Weapon movies. But the thing is, when you go 357 00:16:59,697 --> 00:17:01,337 Speaker 2: to the range, you do that that is not training 358 00:17:01,377 --> 00:17:03,137 Speaker 2: you to do anything actually with your gun in any 359 00:17:03,137 --> 00:17:06,497 Speaker 2: scenario whatsoever. That is the that's I would say, that's 360 00:17:06,577 --> 00:17:09,897 Speaker 2: that's basic fam that you could really almost get in 361 00:17:09,937 --> 00:17:12,257 Speaker 2: a classroom without doing live fire, right. I mean, you're 362 00:17:12,297 --> 00:17:15,977 Speaker 2: really not getting very much out of that experience. You're 363 00:17:16,017 --> 00:17:18,257 Speaker 2: not coming out of the draw. You're not learning to 364 00:17:18,377 --> 00:17:21,857 Speaker 2: you know, you're not practicing at speed, You're not you're 365 00:17:21,897 --> 00:17:24,657 Speaker 2: not doing bill drills, you're not doing tactical religion, right. 366 00:17:24,697 --> 00:17:26,657 Speaker 2: I mean you and I see your drive, yeah, and 367 00:17:26,737 --> 00:17:28,897 Speaker 2: so and and so. When you know, when when you 368 00:17:28,937 --> 00:17:31,057 Speaker 2: start to add in these different pieces, I mean for me, 369 00:17:31,897 --> 00:17:34,657 Speaker 2: I like, I mean, I love pistol shooting, I mean, look, 370 00:17:34,657 --> 00:17:36,417 Speaker 2: I've got my I've got my ar here, and I 371 00:17:36,457 --> 00:17:38,457 Speaker 2: got some fun stuff all you know, hit it up 372 00:17:38,497 --> 00:17:41,377 Speaker 2: with it and whatever. But I like pistol shooting, and 373 00:17:41,577 --> 00:17:45,417 Speaker 2: I like pistol shooting based on the you know, rather 374 00:17:45,737 --> 00:17:49,377 Speaker 2: focusing on the fundamentals and what are the situations in 375 00:17:49,377 --> 00:17:51,097 Speaker 2: which I would actually have to use a farm to 376 00:17:51,177 --> 00:17:53,737 Speaker 2: found myself? God forbid I ever do. But I want 377 00:17:53,737 --> 00:17:55,337 Speaker 2: to be at a place where I know that if 378 00:17:55,337 --> 00:17:59,857 Speaker 2: I had to, I'm trained. And that's kind of much. Yeah, yeah, 379 00:17:59,897 --> 00:18:00,377 Speaker 2: that's my thing. 380 00:18:00,497 --> 00:18:02,577 Speaker 1: I love that, bro. You want it to be reflexive, 381 00:18:02,617 --> 00:18:03,777 Speaker 1: and and again I agree with you. 382 00:18:03,857 --> 00:18:06,417 Speaker 3: Look, I say go to the range for the normal 383 00:18:06,457 --> 00:18:10,977 Speaker 3: person to get used to the mechanical mechanism and operation 384 00:18:11,057 --> 00:18:14,137 Speaker 3: of your firearm if it's on your nightstand or if 385 00:18:14,137 --> 00:18:14,777 Speaker 3: you're carrying it. 386 00:18:14,737 --> 00:18:16,697 Speaker 2: On that's a step one for sure. You gotta you 387 00:18:16,697 --> 00:18:18,937 Speaker 2: gotta like loaded fire and see what that's like. 388 00:18:19,057 --> 00:18:21,457 Speaker 1: But that's to your point, though, Buck. 389 00:18:22,137 --> 00:18:25,097 Speaker 3: You you have to put yourself in scenarios, and that's 390 00:18:25,097 --> 00:18:27,097 Speaker 3: why you have a lot of defensive pistol courses. 391 00:18:27,257 --> 00:18:28,377 Speaker 1: You got to put yourself. 392 00:18:28,097 --> 00:18:30,377 Speaker 3: In a scenario to know how in the hell would 393 00:18:30,377 --> 00:18:33,537 Speaker 3: I react if I'm stressed through the roof, if I'm 394 00:18:33,577 --> 00:18:36,017 Speaker 3: not thinking right, if there's a lot going on around me, 395 00:18:36,697 --> 00:18:39,017 Speaker 3: I got to make sure I don't hit an innocent person, 396 00:18:39,057 --> 00:18:41,017 Speaker 3: if you're being accosting. There's just so many things that 397 00:18:41,097 --> 00:18:44,777 Speaker 3: goes into training. I highly recommend it. And this, you know, 398 00:18:44,817 --> 00:18:46,977 Speaker 3: gets into your question you asked, you know what I'm 399 00:18:47,017 --> 00:18:49,617 Speaker 3: working on right now. So I just launched this new 400 00:18:49,657 --> 00:18:53,217 Speaker 3: network called We the Free. Obviously big Second Amendment guy, 401 00:18:53,417 --> 00:18:54,817 Speaker 3: love freedom, freedom. 402 00:18:54,537 --> 00:18:57,537 Speaker 1: Of speech, you know, tied to my right to keep it. 403 00:18:58,257 --> 00:19:01,097 Speaker 3: It's a firearm streaming platform and we're looking at a 404 00:19:01,097 --> 00:19:03,177 Speaker 3: couple of different things. So we have our gun training, 405 00:19:03,617 --> 00:19:07,497 Speaker 3: we have our firearms sort of interactive entertainment shows. 406 00:19:07,537 --> 00:19:09,977 Speaker 1: We have action oriented reality shows. 407 00:19:09,777 --> 00:19:14,017 Speaker 3: And then we also have conservative podcast and political commentary. 408 00:19:14,057 --> 00:19:16,377 Speaker 3: Then we have a weekly gun news show that strictly 409 00:19:16,457 --> 00:19:20,257 Speaker 3: new news about only and so I would highly recommend 410 00:19:20,257 --> 00:19:22,657 Speaker 3: your artists to check us out WTF dot tv. That's 411 00:19:22,697 --> 00:19:25,217 Speaker 3: We are Free and we're excited about this buck because 412 00:19:25,217 --> 00:19:28,337 Speaker 3: what I realized was one there isn't really a singular 413 00:19:28,377 --> 00:19:30,377 Speaker 3: place to go if you're a gun person to get 414 00:19:31,057 --> 00:19:36,137 Speaker 3: highly made curated content by gun people for gun people. 415 00:19:36,577 --> 00:19:39,777 Speaker 3: YouTube is constantly demonetizing guys. I had, you know, we 416 00:19:39,857 --> 00:19:42,097 Speaker 3: have a channel on YouTube and we don't even do 417 00:19:42,137 --> 00:19:44,017 Speaker 3: a lot of content on there anymore because you don't 418 00:19:44,017 --> 00:19:45,617 Speaker 3: make any money on it, and a lot of the 419 00:19:45,617 --> 00:19:49,177 Speaker 3: big channels they struggle to make money on YouTube Instagram. 420 00:19:49,257 --> 00:19:52,217 Speaker 3: Even though Zuckerberg has said that they're going to become friendlier, 421 00:19:52,817 --> 00:19:55,097 Speaker 3: we haven't really seen that change. And I got to 422 00:19:55,137 --> 00:19:57,697 Speaker 3: be honest, Buck, as much as I loved the heck 423 00:19:57,737 --> 00:20:00,217 Speaker 3: out of Elon Musk for what he's doing in his ingenuity, 424 00:20:01,097 --> 00:20:03,897 Speaker 3: you know X on occasion, and you even saw a 425 00:20:03,937 --> 00:20:06,217 Speaker 3: couple of manufacturers, you know, have some complaints about this 426 00:20:06,297 --> 00:20:07,137 Speaker 3: a couple of months ago. 427 00:20:07,697 --> 00:20:08,857 Speaker 1: They still have. 428 00:20:08,897 --> 00:20:11,617 Speaker 3: Some provisions at they need to sort of perfect as 429 00:20:11,617 --> 00:20:15,537 Speaker 3: it attains to gun content and the monetization of gun 430 00:20:15,577 --> 00:20:18,297 Speaker 3: content on X. So nevertheless, I sell that to say, 431 00:20:18,337 --> 00:20:21,937 Speaker 3: we decided why not build something for gun people and 432 00:20:21,937 --> 00:20:24,337 Speaker 3: for conservatives, people who care about the Second Amendment, who 433 00:20:24,417 --> 00:20:28,097 Speaker 3: also care about the First Amendment, with a focus really 434 00:20:28,137 --> 00:20:29,897 Speaker 3: on younger to middle aged. 435 00:20:29,617 --> 00:20:31,457 Speaker 1: Men, because that is what we think will be our 436 00:20:31,497 --> 00:20:32,417 Speaker 1: biggest demographic. 437 00:20:32,857 --> 00:20:35,377 Speaker 2: When when can I come and shoot with the WTF 438 00:20:35,457 --> 00:20:38,497 Speaker 2: dot TV folks like I mean, shoot guns while we 439 00:20:38,537 --> 00:20:40,497 Speaker 2: shoot video, Like, when can we do this? You gotta 440 00:20:40,537 --> 00:20:42,177 Speaker 2: tell me, we'd. 441 00:20:41,817 --> 00:20:44,137 Speaker 1: Love to film something with you, whatever the hell you want. 442 00:20:44,697 --> 00:20:47,777 Speaker 2: All right, that happened. This will be fun, all right? 443 00:20:47,817 --> 00:20:50,297 Speaker 2: I got I got a couple of quick quickfire questions 444 00:20:50,337 --> 00:20:52,057 Speaker 2: because we're we're at time, but a couple of quick 445 00:20:52,057 --> 00:20:55,417 Speaker 2: fire questions. You only get one pistol for the rest 446 00:20:55,457 --> 00:20:58,377 Speaker 2: of your life, for the range and one pistol for 447 00:20:58,417 --> 00:21:01,177 Speaker 2: the rest of your life, well, one pistol for the 448 00:21:01,257 --> 00:21:03,457 Speaker 2: zombie apocalypse, Like, this is the pistol that you're gonna 449 00:21:03,497 --> 00:21:07,057 Speaker 2: have to use to defend yourself in every situation, every environment. Whatever. 450 00:21:07,377 --> 00:21:08,897 Speaker 2: What are your go tos right now? 451 00:21:10,137 --> 00:21:16,577 Speaker 3: I am going to go with the sam Viper by Terran. 452 00:21:17,617 --> 00:21:20,857 Speaker 3: Love Terran, He's a good friend. I have the sad Viper. 453 00:21:21,137 --> 00:21:23,657 Speaker 3: I was gonna go with maybe the Chaccato EXL because 454 00:21:23,657 --> 00:21:26,337 Speaker 3: I really really love the Chacado EXL. It's a beautiful pistol, 455 00:21:27,097 --> 00:21:30,977 Speaker 3: but the sad Viper, it just runs like a fine 456 00:21:31,057 --> 00:21:32,097 Speaker 3: tuned machine. 457 00:21:32,137 --> 00:21:35,857 Speaker 2: So that's your range everything, sand Viper Terran range gun. 458 00:21:36,057 --> 00:21:38,857 Speaker 2: What is your zombie what is your zombie apocalypse handgun? 459 00:21:39,337 --> 00:21:40,457 Speaker 2: Like this is the one that you. 460 00:21:40,897 --> 00:21:45,257 Speaker 3: I'm absolut frecolutely bringing the Chicago exl. Absolutely, you're talking 461 00:21:45,257 --> 00:21:47,857 Speaker 3: about what a four and a half inch barrel length, 462 00:21:47,897 --> 00:21:53,337 Speaker 3: so my great line of sight, huge oversized mag well. 463 00:21:53,737 --> 00:21:55,657 Speaker 1: Great, this is this is funny because I have a 464 00:21:55,657 --> 00:21:56,777 Speaker 1: trigger grip, I believe. 465 00:21:56,857 --> 00:21:59,457 Speaker 2: So yeah, it sounds it sounds like we're like sponsored 466 00:21:59,457 --> 00:22:01,697 Speaker 2: by Stacado. Maybe you are. I'm not. I'd love to be. 467 00:22:01,777 --> 00:22:03,737 Speaker 2: I love Staccato because I was gonna say for me 468 00:22:03,857 --> 00:22:06,617 Speaker 2: the range gun, no question, my staccato C two. I 469 00:22:06,657 --> 00:22:09,297 Speaker 2: love that gun. I shoot that gun lights out. It's 470 00:22:09,297 --> 00:22:12,017 Speaker 2: so fun. It's just like and the problem is when 471 00:22:12,017 --> 00:22:13,337 Speaker 2: I shoot that and then people like, hey, do you 472 00:22:13,337 --> 00:22:15,657 Speaker 2: want to try my I'm like, oh no, that peasant tool. 473 00:22:15,697 --> 00:22:19,097 Speaker 2: I don't think so. But because I know it's a 474 00:22:19,257 --> 00:22:21,137 Speaker 2: people call it a rich man's gun. I'm like, look, 475 00:22:21,177 --> 00:22:24,017 Speaker 2: it's expensive. It's a great gun. Yeah, I love it. 476 00:22:24,457 --> 00:22:26,577 Speaker 2: But from my zombie apocalypse man, and I know people 477 00:22:26,697 --> 00:22:28,377 Speaker 2: make fun of me, and this is almost it's almost 478 00:22:28,457 --> 00:22:30,937 Speaker 2: like telling somebody I would have like a snubnosed revolver, 479 00:22:31,057 --> 00:22:32,977 Speaker 2: like a thirty eight, you know, old school, like a 480 00:22:33,377 --> 00:22:37,217 Speaker 2: like a detective in the eighties. I'd go glock nineteen man, 481 00:22:37,337 --> 00:22:39,217 Speaker 2: I just feel like I can. I can take that 482 00:22:39,257 --> 00:22:41,617 Speaker 2: thing apart and put it together in the dark. I 483 00:22:41,657 --> 00:22:43,497 Speaker 2: know it will always one. I know what it feels 484 00:22:43,537 --> 00:22:46,937 Speaker 2: like in my hands. To me, it's like the you know, 485 00:22:47,737 --> 00:22:49,937 Speaker 2: it's the it's the equivalent of having like a baseball 486 00:22:49,977 --> 00:22:51,937 Speaker 2: bat with some nails through it. Like it's gonna get 487 00:22:51,937 --> 00:22:53,737 Speaker 2: the job done. You know, you swing that thing, it's 488 00:22:53,737 --> 00:22:54,697 Speaker 2: gonna get the job done. 489 00:22:54,857 --> 00:22:57,657 Speaker 3: So I mean, look, Buck, I can't I can't disagree, 490 00:22:57,657 --> 00:22:59,137 Speaker 3: and I and I gotta add. 491 00:22:59,497 --> 00:23:02,937 Speaker 1: You can always make some adjustments and updates to your glock. 492 00:23:03,017 --> 00:23:05,657 Speaker 1: You can update the trigger. You could put a different 493 00:23:05,737 --> 00:23:08,257 Speaker 1: spring in. You could put in different barrels. You can 494 00:23:08,257 --> 00:23:11,537 Speaker 1: put a sro or whatever they dot you want to put. 495 00:23:11,697 --> 00:23:13,537 Speaker 1: You can you can put a mag wol on it. 496 00:23:13,577 --> 00:23:15,697 Speaker 3: Also, you can do some stipplings so that the grip 497 00:23:16,057 --> 00:23:18,217 Speaker 3: is more textured in your hand, which is something I 498 00:23:18,297 --> 00:23:21,537 Speaker 3: personally prefer. So I actually wouldn't be opposed to a glock. 499 00:23:21,617 --> 00:23:22,057 Speaker 2: Here we go. 500 00:23:22,097 --> 00:23:23,017 Speaker 1: They make good guns. 501 00:23:23,257 --> 00:23:26,217 Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like I remember Tim Kennedy told my brother. 502 00:23:26,297 --> 00:23:28,177 Speaker 2: My brother's like, yeah, I got a cold nineteen eleven. 503 00:23:28,257 --> 00:23:30,297 Speaker 2: He's like, did did you get that with your walker? 504 00:23:30,417 --> 00:23:32,977 Speaker 2: We were like, oh. 505 00:23:32,177 --> 00:23:35,257 Speaker 1: Dang, talk about shots fired. 506 00:23:35,297 --> 00:23:38,217 Speaker 2: Good heaven shots fired. Like we were like laughing at it, 507 00:23:38,257 --> 00:23:39,657 Speaker 2: you know when you laugh and it hurts at the 508 00:23:39,697 --> 00:23:43,937 Speaker 2: same time, I was like, damn shot down. That was 509 00:23:44,017 --> 00:23:47,457 Speaker 2: very funny from Tim Kennedy. Anyway, all right, man, hey, Shermichael, guys, 510 00:23:47,497 --> 00:23:49,537 Speaker 2: go go look for him on CNN off obviously follow 511 00:23:49,617 --> 00:23:54,257 Speaker 2: him on social, but go to WTF dot tv and 512 00:23:54,377 --> 00:23:56,937 Speaker 2: maybe you'll see you bucking Shermichael doing like the Keanu 513 00:23:56,977 --> 00:23:59,137 Speaker 2: Reefs thing out at the Tarran Tactical Range at some point, 514 00:23:59,137 --> 00:24:02,777 Speaker 2: you know. Two definitely, dude, let's do some two gun drills. 515 00:24:02,777 --> 00:24:04,817 Speaker 2: I'll text you. It'll be fun. Great to see you, 516 00:24:04,857 --> 00:24:07,337 Speaker 2: my friend. We'll talk soon. Okay, good to see you, Bud. 517 00:24:07,337 --> 00:24:08,297 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, man,