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Speaker 1: I don't care what it is. Butt, say offs win

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Speaker 1: the game? Hook in hold the last play the game.

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Speaker 1: Let's say Off's win. Thirty eight thirty seven gits Somber

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Speaker 2: Catch Holy cow, perfect joyous messy call to a perfect

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Speaker 2: joyous night of football for the Seattle Seahawks. What did

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Speaker 2: we just watch? The Seahawks win thirty eight to thirty

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Speaker 2: seven in overtime to take control of the NFC West

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Speaker 2: of the NFC Wildcard race, and Jordan Rodrigue joins me

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Speaker 2: from across Los Angeles on a night where it felt

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Speaker 2: like we had an MVP moment for Matthew Staff with

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Speaker 2: about thirteen minutes left in the fourth quarter, and then

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Speaker 2: the game really started and the Seahawks somehow found all

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Speaker 2: their way, got all the way back, got the win,

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Speaker 2: and Sam Darnold, I don't know if it's his MVP moment, Jordan,

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Speaker 2: but he had his very best drive of the game.

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Speaker 2: I think their offensive line was great in that overtime

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Speaker 2: and they go for two to win it, and they

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Speaker 2: get the two and they vanquish the Rams, sweeping them

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Speaker 2: on the season.

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Speaker 3: Whoa man. So much happened during this game, Greg, Oh

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Speaker 3: my lord. We were watching thinking, okay, this is definitely

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Speaker 3: the game is drunk. This is definitely gonna end it

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Speaker 3: this time. It's definitely gonna end it this time. It's

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Speaker 3: definitely gonna end it. When Matthew Stafford in overtime hits

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Speaker 3: the vintage Matthew Stafford inbreaker to Puka Nakua for the touchdown,

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Speaker 3: that's when we thought, okay, of course, this is what's

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Speaker 3: going to ultimately and finally end this game. It was

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Speaker 3: almost too poetic. That is the quintessential Matthew Stafford throw.

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Speaker 3: He is the best on the planet at throwing that inbreaker,

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Speaker 3: a little dig of burying lengths, and then Sam Donald

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Speaker 3: had to say, Greg, Sam Donald had to say on

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Speaker 3: the other side.

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Speaker 2: It was an up and down game for Sam Donald,

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Speaker 2: Rashija Head helps to turn the game around and the

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Speaker 2: it's defense, and it's also a quick strike by Donald

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Speaker 2: to aj Barner to really make them go crazy, the

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Speaker 2: craziest two point conversion that you'll ever want to see.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I go back to that overtime drive, really

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Speaker 2: and you think about the drive starter to Jackson Smith

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Speaker 2: throw to Cooper Cup. And by the end of this game,

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Speaker 2: the Rams defense, which was game for so much of it,

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Speaker 2: was gassed. And all season we've talked about like, these

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Speaker 2: are the most two complete teams in the NFL, and

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Speaker 2: I think the Seahawks tonight kind of showed maybe they're

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Speaker 2: a little more complete because special teams counts. And even

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Speaker 2: though the defense struggled for most of the night, their

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Speaker 2: teams and their offense a chance to make that comeback

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Speaker 2: in regulation and then in overtime.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and how about Rashid Shaheed giving the spark when needed,

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Speaker 3: not just on the punt return for a touchdown. After

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Speaker 3: the Rams failed again to score any points another three

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Speaker 3: and out as their offense totally dried up, Seahawks increased,

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Speaker 3: the pressure increased, the different changed up, the different styles

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Speaker 3: of pressure. It looked to me, And I don't have

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Speaker 3: the exact numbers in front of it. Looked to me

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Speaker 3: to flip the game, and of course the Rams Special Teams.

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Speaker 3: I texted you this. I was like, we thought the

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Speaker 3: game was going to end, and I said, I never

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Speaker 2: All right, let's actually listen to that Rashid ja he'd play,

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Speaker 2: It gets even higher later in the game. In all

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Speaker 2: interception with about eight minutes and change to go and

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Speaker 1: Seahawks can jump right back into this game with a

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Speaker 1: Holy cap tout un chay Hawks. I'm telling you the

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Speaker 3: A great chriss and he's it's a great call. And

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Speaker 3: of course he's talking about the offensive and defensive coaches

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Speaker 3: right next to that. That was one of those moments, Greg,

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Speaker 3: I've seen a few of them in Ram's history, and

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Speaker 3: you could see it. The Rams are almost reeling like

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Speaker 3: something that they've struggled with all year. Greg is special

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and to me, it's more about one of the

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Speaker 3: That's a Harbaugh coaching down there.

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Speaker 2: Long touchdowns from scrimmage, he is top seven all time,

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Speaker 2: I'm totally blanking Cooper Cup.

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Speaker 3: No, No, that was Sharbonay picked it up.

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Speaker 2: Sharbonay picks it up. He's on top of it. No

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Speaker 3: That he does not really know what he's doing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the crowd. You could hear the crowd

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Speaker 3: Well, they First of all, the explosives did not help.

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Speaker 3: It just wasn't as effective. There were I think some

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Speaker 3: By the time we were talking about that Kenneth Walker touchdown,

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Speaker 2: And look, it's why I love football. It's why I

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Speaker 2: What do you think, like, Sean, you having covered the

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Speaker 3: His kicker probably that's so unfair, though he's I know

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you lose an offensive lineman Kevin Dotson early in

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Speaker 3: bit Sean McVay before in previous years, before he had

435
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 3: a run game like this where it would just be throw, throw, throw,

436
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 3: everything's on Matthew Stafford's shoulder an arm, which when it's great,

437
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 3: can be great, but when you're also missing one of

438
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 3: the best receivers in the NFL, and DeVante Adams and

439
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 3: certainly their highest scoring one. You saw them missing him

440
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 3: in a route that Terrence Ferguson ran that Matthew Stafford

441
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 3: threw the ball to the landmark and Terrence Ferguson came

442
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 3: out of the slot on the play. So you knew

443
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 3: that if DeVante Adams was in the game, that would

444
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 3: have been DeVante Adams's route and so and then the

445
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 3: it's sales and complete it could have been maybe a

446
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 3: walk in touchdown at that point, Just these little moments

447
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 3: that I think some of it being personnel driven, and

448
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 3: then also Seattle having the fortitude to capitalize on all

449
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 3: of the little things that potentially go wrong for the

450
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 3: opponent in the game. Seattle has this resilience to them

451
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 3: where they know how to capitalize on these things.

452
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 2: So there's so many little moments like look, the Rams

453
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 2: failed on a fourth and short on their very first

454
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 2: drive in Seattle territory. There's you know, a drive where

455
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: Tuka has a contested catch right along the goal line.

456
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Speaker 2: They end up not scoring a touchdown on that. Matthew

457
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 2: Stafford misses a deep shot where Pukinakua is wide open

458
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 2: going down the field that you just don't normally see.

459
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 2: You mentioned kind of the conservative decisions to take the

460
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 2: three points, which I didn't have a problem with in

461
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Speaker 2: this game for the most part, like Sean McVay was being, but.

462
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Speaker 3: It started so differently. Yeah, it's and once once they

463
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 3: once they missed Kevin dottson it changed.

464
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that was pretty early on in the game

465
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Speaker 2: where they're like their first six points are on those

466
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Speaker 2: field goals where they're settling for it. One of them

467
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Speaker 2: where they tried to like draw a delay of game

468
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 2: penalty and it was just so much energy. I mean,

469
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: have you see I mean, I can't remember Jehan McVay

470
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 2: gets pumped a lot, so that's not true. I would

471
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Speaker 2: say Sean McVay was peak pumped when they knocked the

472
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Speaker 2: ball out of Cooper Cup's hands for a forced fumble.

473
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Speaker 2: I believe it was Cam Curl on the play late

474
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Speaker 2: in the in the first half. Like, I was fearful

475
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Speaker 2: of anyone that was around Sean McVay because his veins

476
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: were just like coming out of his neck at this point.

477
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 2: And to lose this game is going to be a

478
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Speaker 2: big time lift down for them.

479
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, Cooper Cup just had to dagger

480
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 3: him right back at the very end of the game

481
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Speaker 3: with that vintage Cooper Cup toe tap. And he had

482
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Speaker 3: a couple of misplays and especially that one. You know,

483
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Speaker 3: obviously he was sick to his stomach losing that fumble.

484
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Speaker 3: And then one of the nastiest, meanest play calls I've

485
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Speaker 3: ever seen in my entire life courtesy of Chris Shula.

486
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 3: It was Josh Wallace and basically he had the defense

487
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Speaker 3: lineup in man to man and Josh Wallace tracked Cooper

488
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Speaker 3: Cup across the stack in motion, so again a man

489
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Speaker 3: indicator showing that you are in man to man and

490
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 3: then instead of playing press man against Cooper Cup, he

491
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 3: basically jumped into the zone knowing that Sam Donald was

492
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Speaker 3: going to see a one on one on the left

493
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Speaker 3: side perimeter, and so Josh Wallace jumps inside the zone

494
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Speaker 3: and intercepts Sam Donald. And the most dastardly thing about

495
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 3: it is that the Rams still was sending a linebacker

496
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Speaker 3: to close over the top of Cooper Cup just in

497
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Speaker 3: case Sam Donald was able to adjust and throw into

498
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 3: the scene where Cooper Cup was going. But it was

499
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 3: like one of the meanest, most mean spirited complimentary play

500
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Speaker 3: calls I've ever seen in a game, and it was

501
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 3: done by like a undrafted free agent who's filling in

502
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Speaker 3: in Josh Wallace. And so Cooper Cup getting back in

503
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 3: a vintage way like that is a toe tap I've

504
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 3: seen a billion times right on the sideline, total situational

505
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 3: awareness understands exactly where that second foot needs to land.

506
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 3: I've seen it a bill million times, and he does

507
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 3: it right at the right moment for the Seahawks.

508
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Speaker 2: Let's listen to that interception by Wallace. It was sixteen

509
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 2: to thirteen This is in the third quarter. It quickly

510
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 2: became a two score game.

511
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Speaker 3: After this Rams showing let's let's see who comes. They

512
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 3: only rushed for Donald UT's.

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Speaker 1: Quickly it's intercepted right side. Joss Wallace fifty forty gets

514
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: a blot from Fisk, leaves inside to the five, extends

515
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 1: the football. He's down inside the one. Josh Wallace with

516
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: the takeaway a fifty five yard interception returned. The Rams

517
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Speaker 1: are on the doorstep with a two point lead.

518
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 2: It is now time for quarterback keeper presented by Snapdragon.

519
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 2: Let's dive into the ultimate Darnald game because he has

520
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 2: that interception.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

522
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 2: Football is so context Joe. He has the interception where

523
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: Kobe Turner picks him off on the goal line in

524
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. You know, just the next drive. If

525
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 2: you're watching on YouTube, you can see the pressure gets

526
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 2: to Donald quickly. He lets go of it, his receivers

527
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: not at all where he thinks he's gonna be, or

528
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 2: he just panics and throws it into coverage where they

529
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 2: drop the defensive lineman. And at that point in the game,

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Speaker 2: if the Rams offense takes care of business, or if

531
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Speaker 2: the Seahawks defense doesn't pick up their buddy Sam Donald.

532
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 2: We're talking for the next month about how Sam Donald

533
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: can't win a big game, that you can't trust him.

534
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: The Rams are Sam Donald killers. They have no chance

535
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: to win three straight road games in the playoffs. Maybe

536
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: they won't even win one road game in the playoffs,

537
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 2: but because the Seahawks defense gives him a chance, and

538
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: they get a wide open receiver to barner later, and

539
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: they get all those stops even when Donald can't cash

540
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: it in at the end of the fourth quarter, and

541
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Speaker 2: he gets to overtime and has a great drive. Different

542
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: about Sam Donald, and we should maybe we shouldn't, because

543
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 2: to me, this game it kind of is Sam Donald.

544
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: And it's why, like, the path is obviously narrower to

545
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl with Sam Donald as your quarterback

546
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: than it is with Matthew Stafford. But it is a

547
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 2: team game, and you can win games in all sorts

548
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 2: of ways, and it depends on which defenses you're gonna

549
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 2: face if they're going to be the right ones to

550
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: be able to expose Donald for who he is. The

551
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: thing you have to love about Donald, I think, is

552
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: that he always keeps firing, and sometimes the keeps firing

553
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 2: does land in four interceptions, but tonight, the ability to

554
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: keep firing did help them win this game. And he

555
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: was not high on the list of reasons they won

556
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: this game, but he was part of them winning this game,

557
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 2: and now they have a much better chance to go

558
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 2: on a Super Bowl run.

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Speaker 3: Here's why I think the Seahawks can win the Super Bowl,

560
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 3: right because I don't really buy the I understand what

561
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 3: some of the tape looks like, and the turnovers are

562
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 3: not good. Obviously, there are certain types of pressure, and

563
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 3: it's not just pressure, it's certain types of pressure. That

564
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: interception that he threw Chris Hula rushed a defensive back,

565
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 3: an inside linebacker and drop the flip and nose tackle

566
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Speaker 3: into zone coverage to get that like I would not.

567
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Speaker 3: I mean, come on, like, a lot of quarterbacks are

568
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 3: throwing an interception against something like that, against the first

569
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Speaker 3: against the Josh Wallace look. A lot of quarterbacks are

570
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 3: throwing an interception against that type of thing as well.

571
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 3: So for me, it's yes, it's specific types of pressure,

572
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 3: not all pressure against Sam Darnold. But here's why I

573
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Speaker 3: think that he can co lead the Seahawks to a

574
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 3: super Bowl, at least a Super Bowl appearance is because

575
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 3: the Seahawks play matchup football, and you saw it tonight,

576
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 3: especially on defense, almost better than anybody else in the

577
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 3: NFL right now, because they adjust so quickly, the communication

578
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 3: along that entire coaching staff, and the expertise and the

579
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Speaker 3: knowledge and the IQ of those players, and the physical

580
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 3: nature of those players, and like everything they're able to do,

581
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: they adjust so quickly and combine that with pure actual resilience.

582
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 3: If you want to know what resilience as an intangible

583
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 3: trait looks like, it is what Sam Darnold did tonight,

584
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 3: which was fail a bunch and then keep keep swinging

585
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 3: and trust that at the right time, at the exact time,

586
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 3: not only was his entire team gonna help set him

587
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 3: up to make the play, but he was then going

588
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 3: to reciprocate and make that play and in the playoffs

589
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 3: and in making a deep Super Bowl run. It does

590
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 3: not always matter how complete of a team you were

591
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 3: in the regular season, and this is a very complete team,

592
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 3: but how you play matchup football and how you show

593
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 3: specific resilience and strategy in key moments, and that is

594
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 3: exactly what Seattle showed tonight.

595
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Speaker 2: I know when they when Puka and Akua scored that

596
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: you just figured the Rams are gonna find a way.

597
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: But it's one of the reasons you have to give

598
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: the Seahawks credit for winning the toss in overtime, not

599
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 2: doing what the forty nine ers did in the Super

600
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: Bowl in deciding to give the ball to the Rams first.

601
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: The Rams understandably just kicked the extra point, but the

602
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: Seahawks knew that they could not have a tie in

603
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: this game. I most misspoke, of course, earlier, when I

604
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: said that there was a sweep. I think of that

605
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: first game and how much like the Seahawks dominated the

606
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage and they outgained the Rams. But the

607
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: Rams of course won that game. So you know, a

608
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: tie was not going to help the Seahawks in this situation.

609
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: They needed to get that tie breaker back on their side,

610
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: and so after giving up the touchdown, they knew exactly

611
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: what they had to deal with. And the forty nine

612
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 2: ers are watching and they're thinking, are X forty nine

613
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: ers and I'm stealing this from the comment section, maybe

614
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 2: are the ones who are going to come through with

615
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: the biggest two point conversion of the season. Yes, famous

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Speaker 2: X forty nine ers. Sam Darnold to Eric Cybert, who

617
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: did not have a catch, like he's like not in

618
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 2: the box score. They don't put the two point conversions

619
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Speaker 2: in the box score. But he caught that two point conversion.

620
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: And the thing that stands out in that two point

621
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 2: conversion and the other you know assist I think should

622
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: go in the fourth quarter is the offensive line played

623
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: much better. Even even though I know Kobe Turner had

624
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 2: a number of splash plays and was incredible in this game.

625
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 2: In that overtime drive, the offensive line one, and they

626
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: had moments of dominance in this game, including the opening drive.

627
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: And so like they've had their share of injuries, they

628
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: did not have their left tackle tonight. That was a

629
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: huge factor in this game. And on the biggest play

630
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Speaker 2: of the season, Like was that Donald's third read? I

631
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: mean he was back there forever before he found him.

632
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And man, I I've sort of thought this a

633
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 3: couple of times tonight. I hope this incredible Kobe Turner

634
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 3: aka All Star Vibes team member just does not have

635
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 3: this game wasted. And at least it's an island game

636
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 3: so everybody can actually see, you know, but it's just, yeah,

637
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: it was they held up at the right time. Again,

638
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 3: Sam Donald was calm at exactly the right time. I

639
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 3: did not realize that about the forty nine ers connection,

640
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 3: because you know, the forty nine ers were absolutely ecstatic

641
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 3: about this one, considering you know, they're still lurking around

642
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 3: in the NFC, and also probably ecstatic watching the Rams

643
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 3: miss a kick, considering now the Niners apparently have all

644
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,479
Speaker 3: their kicking problems solved, and it's the other NFC West

645
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 3: teams it seemed to have some issues with their kicks.

646
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Speaker 3: So you know, the universe is a giant arc, you know, Greg,

647
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 3: it works.

648
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 2: In mysterious ways. And the chances of Seattle San Francisco

649
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Speaker 2: being the Sunday Night er in week eighteen went up

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Speaker 2: because what the forty nine ers have is the tiebreaker

651
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: over everyone. Right now, they're four and one in the division. Jones, right,

652
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: they're four and one in the division. The problem is

653
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: they're at Indianapolis this week on Monday night. We'll be

654
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 2: recapping that live on YouTube afterwards, me and Nick Schook,

655
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 2: and then a very difficult game hosting the Bears before

656
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 2: playing Seattle. So they have a lot of work to

657
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: do to stay on. You know, they have to win

658
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: those two games to get to the Seattle game. But

659
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 2: if they went out, they're the one seed, which is

660
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 2: which is just a crazy situation. And like I said,

661
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 2: the Rams are gonna have basically an impossible time passing

662
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: the Seahawks at this point because Seattle, you know, plays

663
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: at Carolina next week. Carolina's been the giant killer. I guess,

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Speaker 2: I guess we can't completely rule them out, but you know,

665
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: the Rams will need a lot of help. They're gonna

666
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 2: need a forty nine Ers loss and they're gonna need

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00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 2: two Seahawks losses to try to get to that one seed.

668
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: If not, we're just gonna have the NFC maybe looking

669
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 2: a little more like the AFC than we expected, which

670
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 2: is basically everyone can win it, except maybe those that

671
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 2: NFC South team. I cannot wait.

672
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 3: Us West Coasters getting to watch NFC West football. We

673
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 3: just exist in an embarrassment of wealth. Frankly minus minus

674
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 3: the Cardinals, but they're in Mountain time.

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Speaker 2: So I love you Flexen on the NFC West, your division.

676
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: It really is where the best of the teams are

677
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: this year. Although I guess the NFC North and what

678
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Speaker 2: we're going to see Saturday night will have a discussion

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00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: with that. That was Quarterback Keeper by the Way, presented

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Speaker 2: by Snapdragon. Learn more at snapdragon dot com slash laptops.

681
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 2: I by the way, I know Stafford didn't get the

682
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 2: win tonight. He did not hurt his standing for the MVP.

683
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: You never know what's going to happen over the next

684
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: two weeks. He's got to keep playing well. They can't

685
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: stub their toe in two games. They're going to be

686
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: heavily favored in Atlanta and Arizona. But he entered tonight

687
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: as the MVP favorite. I think he left tonight as

688
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 2: the MVP favorite because he had an outstanding game overall,

689
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 2: they just didn't get the win.

690
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 3: Can I tell you my favorite Stafford moment? You would

691
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 3: think it was the no look pass, which never gets old.

692
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 3: The first time I ever saw that was in training

693
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 3: camp where he was throwing it to Darryl Henderson and

694
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: Darryl Henderson was like in the wash up the middle

695
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 3: of the field in the red zone, and I yelled

696
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 3: three curse words, and that's those are the three curse

697
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 3: words I think every single time I see that. And

698
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 3: you know, my favorite moment of his though, because he

699
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 3: is playing outside of his body really like he's kind

700
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 3: of in that. I call it the soul Steeler darkly

701
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 3: chaotic Matthew Stafford I coined the term during their Super

702
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 3: Bowl run. And my favorite part though, was when he

703
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 3: was getting really stressed about Sean McVay giving him a

704
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 3: really long play call in the helmet and he started

705
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 3: doing this like hand gesture where you could It's what

706
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 3: I do when I am really stressed out by small talk.

707
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 3: I do it sort of close to my sides and

708
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: very subtle. When I'm really stressed out when small talk

709
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 3: is just continuing and continuing, continuing, and I really want

710
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 3: to interrupt, but I don't want to be rude, so

711
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 3: I get really anxious about it and I start doing

712
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 3: this with my hands. I saw it, and then when

713
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 3: they ran the play, I was like, Oh, I get

714
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 3: why the play call was so long, because it was

715
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 3: like a tight end screen off of a flea flicker.

716
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 3: So I was like, yeah, that one must have been

717
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 3: pretty long winded because then you have to get two

718
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 3: play calls in, and that one's probably pretty long itself

719
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 3: with all the blocking.

720
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Speaker 2: That was how I was feeling when this game went

721
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 2: to overtime and I realized I was not.

722
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 3: Craig started going like.

723
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: This, gonna be able to drive my family to the

724
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 2: airport where they're going right now for the holidays, although

725
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 2: if we finish this thing soon enough, I might still

726
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: drive there and try to say goodbye. The last thing

727
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: I did want to mention is pukin Akua is weak

728
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: because we have not been able to address that. And

729
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 2: first of all, pukin Akua, like had over two hundred

730
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 2: yards in this game. He is making a strong bid

731
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Speaker 2: to win Offensive Player of the Year as great as

732
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: Jackson smith in Jigba has been, and he was fantastic

733
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: in this game. After being basically shut out in the

734
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 2: first half, smith in Jigba finishes with eight and ninety

735
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 2: six in a touchdown. Pooka on a night without DeVante

736
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 2: Adams was twelve for two hundred and twenty five yards

737
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 2: and two touchdowns, just like a ridiculous performance. One of

738
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: the best contested catch seasons of all time, one of

739
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: the best receiver seasons like that we've seen, and he's

740
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 2: playing out of his mind. But it was in a

741
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: week where I think he lost a lot of fans.

742
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: I'm sure Rams fans are gonna more than stick by

743
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 2: him and there'll be a segment that will be cheering

744
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: him for what happened in his week. But he apologized

745
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 2: on Thursday, and I will quote Pukinakua for his apology

746
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: for what he did on a live stream during the week.

747
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 2: When I appeared the other day on a social media

748
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 2: live stream, it was suggested to me to perform a

749
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 2: specific movement as part of my next touchdown celebration. At

750
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 2: the time, I had no idea this act was anti

751
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 2: Semitic in nature and perpetuated harmful stereotypes against Jewish people.

752
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: Nikoua said it was in an Instagram post that he

753
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 2: sent out, I deeply apologe to anyone who is offended

754
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 2: by my actions, as I do not stand for any

755
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: form of racism, bigotry, or hate of another group of people.

756
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: The NFL also released a statement, and a lot of

757
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 2: people want to kind of give pokin Akua a pass

758
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 2: because he's young and dumb. But our friend Patrick Clayban

759
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: I think put it well like, if we're giving a

760
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: pass for people who do hateful things because they're dumb,

761
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 2: that's going to take care of a lot of the

762
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 2: population that that's doing stuff that he doesn't need to

763
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,479
Speaker 2: be doing, and that was far from the only dumb

764
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: thing that pokin Akua you know, said on on the

765
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: live stream, including that he doesn't believe concussions are real,

766
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: that it's that you can control them with your mind. So,

767
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: just a rough week for Pukinakua and h typical of him.

768
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 2: He plays great on the field. But you know, we

769
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 2: did want to hit that because that that's been the

770
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 2: biggest story around the Rams all week and we thought

771
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 2: they'd be celebrating when instead they're going back and dealing

772
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 2: with all this coming off of a loss.

773
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and tough questions after a loss too, because they

774
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 3: had not addressed the media other than a statement on

775
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 3: a short week. Normally a Wednesday is an off day

776
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 3: or a rest day or at least a no media

777
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 3: like very light walk through day, so wasn't a chance

778
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 3: to and it was a lot of no comment at

779
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 3: that time. As they were deciding what to do, I

780
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 3: would say, you know, I think with everything, actions speak

781
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 3: louder than words, and I think obviously that being the

782
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 3: most serious of what occurred, there's also the you know,

783
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 3: trying to sneak people into or trying to get people

784
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 3: into the football building. YouTuber you know of a certain

785
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 3: reputation trying to get into the football building on a

786
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: short week when you're playing for the division, and some

787
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 3: of the comments about officiating that you know, dumb decision

788
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 3: or not, like you are aware you're not supposed to

789
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 3: do that as a player in any platform.

790
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 2: He was aware that he will get fined. They talked

791
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 2: about it.

792
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, any will, And so I think that that's where

793
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 3: the again, aside from you know, at best is a

794
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 3: huge learning moment. Otherwise that's also something that the situational

795
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 3: awareness needs to needs to improve. And you know, a

796
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 3: twenty four year old young man with a baby, so

797
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 3: situational awareness moving around in the world as the face

798
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 3: of a franchise as the star, you know, I hope

799
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 3: for the best for all of that.

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00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's annoying whenever fans or media try

801
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: to tie something that's serious and off the field and

802
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 2: completely unrelated to things that are happening on the field,

803
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: Like he is dealing with that situation now, and it

804
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: puts Pooka in a different light for this season and

805
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: we'll see how that that all goes. And this RAM

806
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: season now is in a different space. They are very

807
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: much Super Bowl contenders. They can win the Super Bowl

808
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 2: as a five seed or a six seed, whatever it

809
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 2: ends up being. They still have a chance to be

810
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 2: the one or the two seed. They just are gonna

811
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 2: get it. Gonna need a little help. They just were

812
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: pushed back tonight on a night where it looked like

813
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: it felt like it was going to be a big

814
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: time coronation and MVP moment for Stafford, who still might

815
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 2: win the award. They just got a little more adversity

816
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 2: and they're gonna have to try to try to go

817
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl from a lower seed like they

818
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 2: did back five years ago. We gotta get it.

819
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 3: I can already. I can already hear the spin coming

820
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 3: into my text messages. This is perfect. It's just like

821
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one. You know, I can already hear the copium.

822
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: That's great for you. We just came back on you

823
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: in a game that we're down thirty to fourteen and

824
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 2: you had the freaking ball midway through the fourth quarter.

825
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 2: Let's go Seattle fans. This team has been a lot

826
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: of fun. What a surprise this Seahawks season has been.

827
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 2: They were expected to be a five hundred team. They

828
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Speaker 2: are at tolight the NFC. We will be back in

829
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Speaker 2: your feed on Friday with the Weekly Pick Show. Eleven

830
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: straight weeks. I've had winning picks. This will never be

831
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Speaker 2: topped again, so check out with it.

832
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Speaker 3: You know who else entered tonight eleven with eleven wins.

833
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: Oh that's true Seahawks, because they're big time winners. We

834
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Speaker 2: will see you with the Pick Show on Friday. See then,