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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast. What time does Sunday Night

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Speaker 1: Football start?

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Speaker 2: Jim from the Chris Nestling podcast studio. It is New

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Speaker 2: Year's Eve, Hey and Collinsworth and Tariko are in tuxedos.

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Speaker 2: We don't got that, but we do have Levi in

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Speaker 2: the house, Dan Hansas, Greg rosehal Mark Sessler.

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Speaker 3: Week seventeen, Baby Feels Good, feels clarifying, wash away, the

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Speaker 3: sins of the old year, wash away, some of these

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Speaker 3: teams eliminated today.

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Speaker 1: Let's go. I don't know about the.

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Speaker 4: Sins, but yeah, my goals just simply to get through

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Speaker 4: this episode.

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Speaker 1: My body has.

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Speaker 4: Sound great, but it has been falling apart hour by

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Speaker 4: hour since I got here at around nine am.

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Speaker 1: Well, way to keep the energy strong there.

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Speaker 2: Mark, We have a big show for you, because yes,

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Speaker 2: it is the an ultimate week of the regular season

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Speaker 2: and so much is being decided. We had both buys

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Speaker 2: and first round excuse me, number one seeds clinched in

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Speaker 2: each conference, and certain divisions somehow got more muddled, which

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Speaker 2: is wild, but that's the way it goes in this

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Speaker 2: crazy year. So we're gonna get through it all and

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Speaker 2: hopefully get home by the time of ball drops. Let's

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Speaker 2: do it right, all right, So let's get right into it,

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Speaker 2: starting with an A. That's what we're gonna do, by

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Speaker 2: the way, because the playoffs are what they are. And Greg,

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Speaker 2: you you better be ready tabulations. This is tabulation season now. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and that's a lot of pressure on you. That's your thing.

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Speaker 2: I understand, this is your thing.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you look nervous because yeah, it's all in my

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Speaker 3: head though, So that's a little worrisome.

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Speaker 1: So we'll try. We'll work with you, all right.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna do We're gonna go by conference here

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Speaker 2: because that just keeps it simple. Uh, Ending with yes,

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Speaker 2: the playing essentially a playing game where a loser goes home.

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Speaker 2: Match between the Vikings and Packers. Let's start though in

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Speaker 2: the AFC. Let's go through it all in with the

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Speaker 2: big matchup. It happened in the early window. It was

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Speaker 2: the Ravens coming off that's stomping of the Niners looking

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Speaker 2: to keep it going, and the Dolphins saying we have

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Speaker 2: a statement to make.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: Only one team was talking afterwards, and it was not

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Speaker 2: the one from Miami.

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Speaker 5: Eight flowers comes in motion, Lamar with Tom coming deep

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Speaker 1: He's got them open at the Bibi thirty makes the cats,

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Speaker 1: He's still twenty cuts back to the fifteen slip kind

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Speaker 1: of a tackles any Flowers touch then Ravens. That was

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Speaker 5: Seventy five yards and the Ravens extend the lead.

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Speaker 2: Oh Man, hide the women and children. The Ravens are

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Speaker 2: a force of terror roaming the hillside. Lamar Jackson now

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Speaker 2: the clear front runner for MVP. After five touchdown passes,

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Speaker 2: he had a perfect passer rating, and the Ravens embarrassed

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Speaker 2: the Dolphins fifty six to nineteen. They hung a fifty

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Speaker 2: burger on Miami on New Year's Eve.

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Speaker 1: That is mean.

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Speaker 2: That win secure as a first round by for Baltimore

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Speaker 2: as well as home field advantage throughout the AFC playoffs.

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Speaker 2: And this was a game where the Dolphins came out

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Speaker 2: have a shootout here, or maybe this is Miami's day

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Speaker 2: and people like me who've been doubting them, we're about

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Speaker 2: it very quickly became clear that Baltimore is just too

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Speaker 2: But I thought the offense today really put on an

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Speaker 2: And I thought greg was an interesting little wrinkle that

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Speaker 2: You know, he's going in motion and then going jet,

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Speaker 2: and that is the Dolphins play. And you would think

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Speaker 3: A devastating day for the Dolphins and their defense, who

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Speaker 3: So to have a game like this where yes they

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Speaker 3: They lose Xavian Howard to injury during this game, they

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Speaker 3: a what was it at that point it was forty

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Speaker 1: You know what, you got hurt in there. It's really

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Speaker 1: disappointing on contact. Looks like an Ac Elder saying.

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Speaker 3: Right, and McDaniel, you know, said they wanted to finish strong.

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Speaker 3: But you have to give credit to the coaching and

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson and the offensive line which has really been

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Speaker 3: Sell for twenty three, Flowers for seventy five, likely for

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Speaker 3: thirty five for a touchdown, thirty three for Beckham.

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Speaker 1: They are a big play offense.

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Speaker 4: It's their development on offense, and it's the scheme. You know,

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Speaker 4: kind of shaky out of the gate this season. But

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Speaker 4: to see what they've done and what they've developed into. Wow,

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Speaker 4: Like even a week ago, I was kind of questioning

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Speaker 4: the Lamar Jackson MVP journey.

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Speaker 1: I can't now, I just can't. He's become that guy.

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Speaker 4: But it's also like I'd point to someone like Isaiah Likely,

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Speaker 4: that might be like a lynchpin scenario that changes Baltimore.

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Speaker 4: Last year, I think it would have been like, You've

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Speaker 4: got all these guys stepping up. Odell Beckham made an

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Speaker 4: incredible cat. I'm just as cz Flowers operate the way

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Speaker 1: Justice Hill, Justice Hill.

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Speaker 4: And if you're and you know it's coming on special teams,

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Speaker 4: it's coming on defense, it's coming through their own offense.

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Speaker 4: And if you're Miami, because outside of the Dallas game,

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of reasons to doubt about their performance

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Speaker 4: against the better teams in the league, this is totally demoralizing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah and yeah the defense.

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Speaker 2: because the Ravens are like like the Niners.

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Speaker 1: Were earlier in the season. Before the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: Humble them, it just feels like no one's gonna stop

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Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill has.

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Speaker 2: A terrible end zone drop in this game, the worst

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Speaker 1: And on a great play there. He's been a great play.

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Speaker 2: And every time Miami cracked the door open, just like

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Speaker 2: Lamar with the MVP door open, they just kick it

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Speaker 2: beautiful all around game for Baltimore. And yes, the only

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Speaker 2: they were talking about. Lamar Jackson has talked about last

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Speaker 2: they had a long layoff and then get picked off

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Speaker 2: by Tennessee. That's the only concern I've had I have

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Speaker 2: is this an episode of rest stop too much rest?

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Speaker 2: That's and maybe some issues with their secondary I'll get

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Speaker 3: two with the forty nine ers. I wonder if they'll

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Speaker 3: who are still alive for the playoffs, and think, let's

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Speaker 3: play that game. You know, anyone that's hurt or on

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Speaker 3: the edge, don't play them. But then you also look

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Speaker 3: season can change when you lose a couple big time players.

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Speaker 3: So that is risky. And the ghosts of twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 3: you know, for the Ravens, I think loom pretty large

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Speaker 3: in their head because that was a devastating sequence for them.

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Speaker 2: It makes you wonder if they will maybe play Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Just like Mike McDaniel, mark saying we need to finish strong.

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Speaker 2: That's why my star defensive end is in the game,

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Speaker 2: like that's a that's a horrible, horrible setback for them.

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Speaker 4: I mean the Ravens are healthy right now, and I

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Speaker 4: don't see any connective DNA with that previous Ravens team

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Speaker 2: They feel completely different to me. They are not healthing

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Speaker 2: their secondary though. So here's the situation. They played this

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Speaker 2: He had the knee.

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Speaker 1: Cornerback Brandon Stevens missed it with the ankle, got hurt

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Speaker 1: during practice on Thursday or always bad.

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Speaker 2: And then today Marlon Humphrey goes out with a calf,

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Speaker 2: they're gonna need time to get that secondary right. But otherwise,

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Speaker 2: gorgeous and Dolphins sins.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna dunk on you here. I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to be that guy, but I think it does once again.

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Speaker 3: But he did lock against them, as did I. That's

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Speaker 3: not a dunk, that's just I'm just saying we need

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Speaker 1: At that that must be pointed out. Give us another

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Speaker 1: one there it is, Eric, are you back on this?

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Speaker 1: Like dueliing Banjo's thing. Now, in Dan's defense, he threw

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Speaker 1: it out there before me. It's true. That's true. Leaders

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Speaker 1: got to lead, Mark I.

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Speaker 2: Always doing it either way. But the Dolphins are good.

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Speaker 2: The Ravens are great, and you see it in a

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Speaker 2: game like this, and we'll.

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Speaker 3: See they're just a team that's better than the some

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Speaker 3: of their parts, Like they're not a star team outside

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Speaker 3: of Lamar It really there's something, there's something bigger going

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Speaker 3: just very solid. Every group is solid. Brokewn Smith is

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Speaker 3: John Harbaugh dancing in the locker room afterwards. Oh, let's

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Speaker 3: take a listen.

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Speaker 1: It's moved me pretty good. He does move well for

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Speaker 2: Not great podcast content, but I like the visual. Check

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Speaker 2: few years ago on this podcast, we're saying, oh, I

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Speaker 2: The Dolphins go down. That opens the door for the

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Speaker 2: They have a AFC East Championship game next Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Did they take care of business? Let's go to Orchard Park.

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Speaker 4: Takes his snap, looking to his left, fires quickly and

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Speaker 4: How about that trade for the Buffalo No, Razull Douglas

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Speaker 4: returned one of his two interceptions for a touchdown that

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Speaker 2: You also tipped the pass to cause a third turnover.

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Speaker 2: The Patriots had four turnovers before you could blink in

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Speaker 2: And yes they don't. They're not clinched in the playoffs yet,

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Speaker 2: need Greg for this. They do indeed steal the AFC East,

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Speaker 2: The Patriots ran the opening kickoff back for a touchdown,

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Speaker 2: So they do what they have to do in this game.

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Speaker 4: It's so important that Razul Douglas has worked out the

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Speaker 3: No chance Josh Allen is winning the mvpf Now game

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Speaker 1: Ball well and everything was just off.

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Speaker 3: Two in a row, really, I mean, he got it

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Speaker 2: Yes, And not much to say about the Patriots other

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Speaker 7: Guys that Bill's defense had more interceptions than Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: As bad as New England was playing on offense early

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Speaker 3: That, not just get a home game, but get the

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Speaker 4: And they're probably that they're going to be the Sunday

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Speaker 2: By then, Buffalo is two for five in the red

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Speaker 2: And you know, Miami's bounce back from adversity this season repeatedly,

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Speaker 2: This week, the Bills played like they've played the last

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Speaker 3: But you know what's crazy for the Dolphins, like if

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Speaker 1: Of course you on a home game, but I.

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Speaker 2: Don't know how goes you want to play an arrowhead

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Speaker 2: Also does I'll give one depressing pat stat before we

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Speaker 3: Oh, they got a little break with the draft pick

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Speaker 1: Come on, keep it going. Von Miller healthy scratch in

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Speaker 4: That would be poetic.

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Speaker 2: I wish you would walk back in on them. Anyway,

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Speaker 8: Backing up, the Bengals got to get to the thirty

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Speaker 1: He's throwing long down.

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Speaker 8: The right sideline, and the pass is gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Broken up, broken up, broken up.

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Speaker 8: T Higgins, the intended receiver, Shamari Connor, the rookie of

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Speaker 8: Chiefs are gonna win the AFC West for eight consecutive years.

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Speaker 8: That is second in National Football League history only to

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Speaker 1: I'm the interest that Pats love there. I like that.

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Speaker 2: Well, they that was history factual, and next year they

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Speaker 2: is with the call. They're still not right. The Chiefs

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Speaker 2: By the way, on that fourth and forever, they cut

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Speaker 3: Oh stop it. He's literally a Pro Bowler for sure.

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Speaker 2: He's the eleventh best tight end this year. He wasn't

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Speaker 2: She's going nuts. She knows what the stakes are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But Harrison Bunker was the star, not Travis, not

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Speaker 2: And the Chiefs hold the Bengals scoreless and their last

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Speaker 2: They clinched that eighth straight AFO West AFC West title.

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Speaker 2: So Greg, they do take care of business. They will

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they will be the three seed no matter

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Speaker 3: I mean by that is they're down seventeen to seven

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Speaker 1: They win twelve to nothing.

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Speaker 3: Granted it's all field goals, but they scored basically every possession,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like on a day where Travis Kelce was largely

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Speaker 4: this this defeat is that Browning had some excellent throws.

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Speaker 4: He did some stuff, you know, improvisational, ran well with

442
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Speaker 4: his feet a couple of times when they needed him to,

443
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Speaker 4: and it kind of just gets swept away. But this

444
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 4: was the Browning that gave you hope that if they

445
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Speaker 4: had made the playoffs.

446
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Speaker 1: They'd have a chance to compete. They are eliminated.

447
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Speaker 3: Yeah, halftime in this game, I was like, Wow, they

448
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,919
Speaker 3: got a real chance here to win this game and

449
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Speaker 3: maybe make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: But uh, I think they're up seventeen a half seven at

451
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Speaker 1: one point.

452
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it really did feel like they were going

453
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Speaker 2: to find a way, but then the offense just totally disappeared.

454
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Speaker 2: It is obviously the post mortem on the Cincinnati season

455
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 2: begins and ends with Joe Burrow's injury and the way this.

456
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Speaker 2: He gets injured in camp, He's slow to get going,

457
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Speaker 2: then he finally does, and then the wrist injury. And

458
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Speaker 2: although they did, you know, fight back and get back

459
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Speaker 2: into the playoff mix, it's really their defense that you

460
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Speaker 2: have to keep an eye on in the offseason.

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Speaker 1: What they're gonna do.

462
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Speaker 2: Captain lou An Arumo's he's going to be back, you imagine,

463
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Speaker 2: unless he gets a job, a head coaching job. But

464
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Speaker 2: they allowed They have allowed the most twenty plus yard

465
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Speaker 2: plays of any defense in the league this year.

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Speaker 1: So it's not just about Burrow's injury this year.

467
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Speaker 2: They got to get better and Cincinnati had six of

468
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Speaker 2: those plays totally yeah, like one hundred and twenty five yards.

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Speaker 4: They really have been dominated up front on defense too,

470
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Speaker 4: and I think that that's where the rebuild starts.

471
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Speaker 1: Kind of on offense too. On both sides.

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Speaker 3: They their offensive line is what killed Browning today. He

473
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Speaker 3: had he had no chance in the second half. Higgins

474
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Speaker 3: was in and out of that game. Might we'll see

475
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Speaker 3: if he gets the franchise tag, ends up with one catch.

476
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Speaker 3: Chase comes back but ends up only three catches, So

477
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Speaker 3: I guess Lagarious Sneve got the last laugh there after

478
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Speaker 3: Chase talks, Yes.

479
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Speaker 4: I do come out of this season, though, thinking a

480
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Speaker 4: lot differently about Zach Taylor, like I think he'd like

481
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Speaker 4: with what he did with Jake Browning was important, and

482
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Speaker 4: they came close to winning this game today and it

483
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Speaker 4: would have been a huge victory.

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Speaker 2: I think some of the shine came up these last

485
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Speaker 2: two weeks. But I know I agree with you. I

486
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Speaker 2: think he's a good coach, but they got to get better.

487
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Speaker 2: And I listen, you got plenty of time to talk

488
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Speaker 2: about this. But the Chiefs have a lot of potential.

489
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Speaker 2: Nobody believes in US juice going into the playoffs. For

490
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Speaker 2: all the doubting, they are an experienced team with a

491
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Speaker 2: very good defense with Patrick Mahomes. Can they win a

492
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Speaker 2: bunch of low scoring games and at least a couple, Yeah,

493
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Speaker 2: of course they can, So they're not dead. It just

494
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Speaker 2: feels like because even in this game, even we're just

495
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Speaker 2: saying all these positive things, all these twenty plus yard plays,

496
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Speaker 2: how many times did they not only get bogged down

497
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Speaker 2: in the red zone some of like the okay, third

498
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Speaker 2: and four, you know at the eight yard line and

499
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Speaker 2: like these a terrible checkdown. I remember Mahomes throwing getting

500
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Speaker 2: pressured time and time again. They were sending out the

501
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Speaker 2: kicker instead of finishing off drives.

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Speaker 1: That's been yeah, three for twelve on third down.

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Speaker 4: There was a moment in this game where Charles and

504
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Speaker 4: Manihew and Willie Gay were shouting at each other on

505
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Speaker 4: the sideline. MVS had one of the worst drops you're

506
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Speaker 4: going to see all season.

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Speaker 3: It's got to just motion that the Homes like that,

508
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Speaker 3: that it was behind them. Yeah, that was That was

509
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Speaker 3: when it was feeling like it might be Yes falling apart.

510
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Speaker 3: But through no, you know, through nothing more than just luck.

511
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Speaker 3: They're gonna get the bye week that they always get.

512
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Speaker 3: There's no they're getting the three seed regardless. It's just

513
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Speaker 3: random that they can't move up, can't move down, and

514
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Speaker 3: so they can't rest. Some people I would think they

515
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Speaker 3: as I mean, if you want, if you want to

516
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Speaker 3: be I don't think so. Isn't restop looking in the

517
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Speaker 3: in the rear sort of, But it's a nice little

518
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Speaker 3: break for the bonus for them that I think they'll

519
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Speaker 3: rest up for the plan franchise.

520
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Speaker 2: It is you, and you can have spin offs and

521
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Speaker 2: it can go in different direction. It's like a universe.

522
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Speaker 2: It's the rest Stop universe. Okay, so it goes in

523
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Speaker 2: a lot of different directions.

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Speaker 1: Exciting. All right, let's head next.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's start talking about the AFC South, which is very,

526
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Speaker 2: very funky.

527
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Speaker 5: Jacksonville troops to the left, one receiver right and a

528
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Speaker 5: shotgun for CJ beouts or tossed to the right to travel.

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Speaker 1: Got a little bit of a.

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Speaker 5: Lock forty forty five pull on the right sideline forty

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Speaker 5: thirty five thirty twenty five Premiacydn still on the street, prevaced.

532
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Speaker 1: It all up, touchdown.

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Speaker 6: Tramnesse et in an expulsive run in the first touchdown

534
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Speaker 6: of the game.

535
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Speaker 1: For the Jaguars. Jags needed this one.

536
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Speaker 2: Travis Etn scored twice, including that run, the longest of

537
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Speaker 2: his NFL career. The Jacks end of four game losing streak,

538
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Speaker 2: shutting out the moribund Panthers twenty six nothing.

539
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Speaker 1: A lot of people upset and frustrated after this game.

540
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Speaker 1: Now the Panthers correct clean me I picked them to win.

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Speaker 1: Where's the pick all year? What are you doing? You

542
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Speaker 1: hate the Jaguars so much and it's clouding you? What

543
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: what first time I picked up Panthers all season? The

544
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Speaker 1: week nine on the road they would be playing better

545
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Speaker 1: and CJ. Bethard was starting.

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Speaker 2: They got work today anyway, Yes, Greg, the Jags they

547
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Speaker 2: win for the first time in December, and with Trevor

548
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Speaker 2: Lawrence on the sideline.

549
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Speaker 1: CJ.

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Speaker 3: Bethard was good seventeen for twenty four, one to seventy.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he just was the point guard that you

552
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Speaker 3: would hope he would be not making any big mistakes

553
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 3: and their defense was dominant. Josh Allen of the Jaguars

554
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 3: is up to sixteen and a half sack. Wow, three sacks,

555
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 3: four quarterback hits. He's not a crazy DPOI candidate, Like,

556
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Speaker 3: there's no one really jumping up and saying it has

557
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Speaker 3: to be me. I think it's gonna be Garrett, but

558
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Speaker 3: I think Alan might be number two on my list.

559
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Speaker 1: Maybe it's Parsons.

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Speaker 2: I turned off that Thursday night game midway through the

561
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Speaker 2: second quarter. Did Garrett have a sack? He did get it, okay,

562
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Speaker 2: because he had been on a slump in that category,

563
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Speaker 2: which has opened the door.

564
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Speaker 3: Yes, just an awesome dominant performance by the Jaguars. And

565
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Speaker 3: I know it's against the Panthers, but hey, the Panther

566
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Speaker 3: has been playing better the last few weeks. Three hundred

567
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Speaker 3: and seventeen yards to only one hundred and twenty four

568
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Speaker 3: for the Panthers. There was a six drive stretch where

569
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Speaker 3: the Panthers had negative yardage over those It's the It

570
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Speaker 3: looked like the worst of the worst Panthers game.

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Speaker 4: It's the fewest out of yards they've had in the

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Speaker 4: game since twenty ten.

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Speaker 1: And I ended up watching.

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Speaker 3: You know, I drafted this partly because I picked the

575
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Speaker 3: What a stupid I.

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Speaker 2: Don't stop bringing it up, Greg, Like you're supposed to

577
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 2: be our smartest fall guy.

578
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: Hey, we need We're trying to protect you right now, Greg.

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Speaker 3: I'm still ahead of the game debut standings here at

580
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 3: discount towards, so still no. But they'll be in Cynthia's model.

581
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Speaker 2: We can't be We're going to edit this all out

582
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Speaker 2: of the show. Yes, absolutely, Greg, absolutely.

583
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Speaker 1: Did not pick the Panthers. Let's set it up.

584
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Speaker 2: Actually, Greg, Wow, well, just like you picked the Jaguars.

585
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Speaker 2: They take care of businesses, say some people in Cynthia's model.

586
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 3: Some people were thinking the Panthers could have a chance

587
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 3: in this game.

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00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 9: No.

589
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 1: One hundred and twelve yards for Bryce Young, he had

590
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: no hope whatsoever, just getting steamrolled. It was. It was

591
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: tough to watch.

592
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 3: They clinched the number one pick for the Bears, though,

593
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 3: so that's even more bad news for the Panthers.

594
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Speaker 1: Congratulations to the Bears.

595
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 3: The seventh downs the second fewest in the history.

596
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Speaker 1: There's no good news around the Panthers. There's nothing to

597
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: talk about that's good.

598
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 3: First shutout they've had, which is this is almost impressive

599
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 3: since two thousand and two, so they have not been

600
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Speaker 3: shut out for twenty one the years.

601
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Speaker 4: There's nothing to say about Bryce stung at this point.

602
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 4: It's just like, well, he had been trending up. So

603
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 4: that's why I was like, okay, but this was bad.

604
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 4: Good job by the Jacks, I really mean it. Backup, quarterback.

605
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Speaker 3: You win twenty six to nothing in your home field,

606
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 3: and if all they got to do now is win

607
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 3: next week against the Titans and they win the AFC South.

608
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: So it was a big time game for them on

609
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: a four game losing Oh yeah, I know, that's why

610
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: you got to pick the check. I know it's so stupid.

611
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: And yes, this is the moment where I love to

612
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Speaker 2: kick into one of my other favorite spin off shows

613
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Speaker 2: within this show. But I can't. We can't, but we

614
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: might be able to a little later in the week,

615
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 2: let's hope. So you guys get what I'm saying. All right,

616
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Speaker 2: let's move on. Let's keep rolling the AFC South. Like

617
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Speaker 2: I said, it's funky, let's head to Indianapolis.

618
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Speaker 1: Two receivers left, including a tight end guard. Make that

619
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Speaker 1: Kylon Grants on the left side. Play action.

620
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Speaker 4: Minshew feeling pressure taking a shotdown Phil.

621
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Speaker 1: For Alec Pierce. He's got it guards after they catch the.

622
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Speaker 6: Ten Angley right for the PIB and he's.

623
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Speaker 1: At the pylon. Touchdown.

624
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 8: Hey, it's a forty two yards strike up, pop the

625
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 8: gardner Minshew to Alec Pierce, touchdown for the Colts's thirteen

626
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 8: to three.

627
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: Like they keep that Garland up at Looks Oil Stadium. Now,

628
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: when do you take down the Christmas decorations? Some would

629
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: say they should already be done.

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Speaker 4: I like to keep them up about a week after

631
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Speaker 4: New Year's like next weekend, Zeuser is.

632
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Speaker 3: Gonna I'm lay I thought about this and now granted

633
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 3: I'm sadly by myself during the house at this point,

634
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 3: so maybe changes there, but uh, I think tomorrow.

635
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: Is the day. Tomorrow Year's day itself. Yeah, I feel

636
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: like a day of rest.

637
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Speaker 3: And well maybe okay then maybe the next But like you,

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Speaker 3: I think a Christmas tree, Greg, Yeah, and.

639
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 4: See tomorrow you're just gonna shred it and take it

640
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 4: down and throw it in the backyard.

641
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Speaker 3: Well it's fake, but uh yeah, I think I'll take

642
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 3: it down, take take it down.

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00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: It's time.

644
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 2: Very nice mask maybe Tuesday, very masculine taking down that tree.

645
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: I mean it's a plastic tree.

646
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 2: Matt Taylor with the call. Jonathan Taylor rush for ninety

647
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Speaker 2: six yards. That's the highest totals had all year. Yikes,

648
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 2: and Gardner Meinshew hits that fifty eight yard TD to

649
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: Pierce on third and one. The Colts get it done,

650
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: putting away Uh the Antonio Pierce Raiders twenty three to twenty.

651
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: So here we are. Gregy.

652
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Speaker 2: Indy will enter next week's AFC South showdown against Houston

653
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: on a three game home winning streak.

654
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Speaker 1: They are also tied at nine and seven with one

655
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Speaker 1: to go.

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Speaker 3: Right, and they are the seventh seed in the AFC

657
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Speaker 3: as we head for the final week. Pretty amazing story

658
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 3: that the embarring a tie you know they got they

659
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Speaker 3: can win in now. Whether they're in as a division

660
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Speaker 3: champer the wild card, we'll have to find out. But

661
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Speaker 3: that's exciting. And that highlight we heard, it's a freaking

662
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 3: awesome throw. I mean that the blitz worked. It gets

663
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 3: total pressure on Minshew on a third and one, a

664
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Speaker 3: gutsy call and he sort of back pedals as he's

665
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Speaker 3: about to get hit and lays it out there for

666
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Speaker 3: a fifty eight yard er. I think of that play

667
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Speaker 3: and then one other play there was a fourth and

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Speaker 3: two where again Max Crosby wins his battle immediately and

669
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Speaker 3: is right in Minshew's lap. It was a very bold

670
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Speaker 3: call for Stichen to go for it on this fourth

671
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Speaker 3: and two is a three point game at the time,

672
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Speaker 3: and Minshew hits a dime over the middle to keep

673
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Speaker 3: the drive going. I think that one was to Pittman

674
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Speaker 3: and they end up scoring a touchdown there, and there

675
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 3: wasn't a ton separating these two teams. But if you

676
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Speaker 3: get this mistake free, Minshew with a couple really nice throws.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was one of his best performances, and

678
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Speaker 3: as you mentioned, Dan Jonathan Taylor kept kept the chains

679
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Speaker 3: moving for the most part.

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Speaker 1: Taylor's been Taylor's been really good lately.

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Speaker 4: And like I guess, if you get the mistake free

682
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 4: version of Minshew and a play like this from Josh

683
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 4: downs from Alex Pierce from Michael Pippings, I don't love

684
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Speaker 4: their group of wideouts, but that's a when they're operating well,

685
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Speaker 4: that's a pretty solid group. Michael Pittman's the first Cults

686
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 4: receiver do I'll have one hundred plus catches in a

687
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Speaker 4: season since Reggie Wayne about a million years ago.

688
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Speaker 1: So there's something to work with there.

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Speaker 4: And I'm more I think Shane Steichen is still a

690
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Speaker 4: strong Coach of the Year candidate because this is not

691
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Speaker 4: a star studded offense, but he's found a way.

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Speaker 1: To court the defense for that much. Right, But they've.

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Speaker 4: Scored like twenty plus and like many many weeks in

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Speaker 4: a row, and it's like they've been consistent.

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Speaker 3: They were in control of this game, was fourteen to

696
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Speaker 3: three when that Pierce touchdn't happen, and they never really

697
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Speaker 3: let the Raiders have a chance. They got a very

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Speaker 3: late touchdown and it failed.

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Speaker 1: On Dafante Adams blew up today.

700
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Speaker 2: Good in the Fantasy Championship if you struggled throughout the season,

701
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Speaker 2: but somehow on a down DeVante Year got to the

702
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: finals today and he played like true Devonte.

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Speaker 3: Thirteen for one, six, three touchdouts, twenty one targets. Was

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Speaker 3: he was he O'Connell zero all.

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Speaker 1: Week, like four yards last week or something.

706
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Speaker 3: Maybe he was like, just throw me the ball man

707
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Speaker 3: AOC was a little erratic, but uh look he ended

708
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Speaker 3: up with two ninety nine and two.

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Speaker 1: That surprises me.

710
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Speaker 2: And if I was Antonio Pierce, I would have been

711
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: knocking on Mark Davis's door every day for a week

712
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: until this game, trying to get that intern label ripped off.

713
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Speaker 2: Now you got Now you gotta win next week against

714
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Speaker 2: the Broncos or it don't look so hot anymore.

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Speaker 3: He's four and four, but the defense wasn't as good today,

716
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Speaker 3: and more importantly for me, because I'm a dork, he

717
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 3: was ridiculously conservative with some brutal punting decisions. They punted

718
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Speaker 3: not once, not twice, not three times, four times in

719
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Speaker 3: colts territory three in the second half.

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Speaker 1: One of them.

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Speaker 3: He was bailed out because he got a penalty on

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Speaker 3: the punch. So people were like, oh, well they worked

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Speaker 3: out at that time.

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Speaker 1: You're punting on fourth and two down ten, you need

725
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Speaker 1: to go to the playoffs in like the fourth quarter?

726
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: What are we They're eliminated now right, they are eliminated

727
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: here by gone.

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Speaker 2: I think, just like with quarterbacks, because it happens every year.

729
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Speaker 2: We let's try not to get sucked in by the

730
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Speaker 2: last few games for quarterbacks.

731
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Speaker 1: Same thing with an interim coach. But who knows, we'll see.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break and when we get back,

733
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 2: we'll finish up this AFC South Maze and get Nick

734
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Speaker 2: Schuck in the building.

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Speaker 1: How about that? That sounds good. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 4: Oh, welcome back the New Year's Eve special around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Big plans anybody for uh? For tonight?

738
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Speaker 4: Mark, You're going to the hospital. About everybody else? I

739
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 4: don't think so, GREGI can I come over? You know

740
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Speaker 4: now we always welcome Well you can't mark next you

741
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 4: in a bubble?

742
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: Sure next year?

743
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: All right, let's welcome in a man that I know

744
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 2: has big plans. Nick Schuck the pipe?

745
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Speaker 1: What's that, Bud? I don't know if I have a

746
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: big plants. They got small plans, but thanks for having

747
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Speaker 1: me on. Guys. A happy New Year.

748
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Speaker 2: Yeah, happy New Year to you. Hours before twenty twenty four?

749
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: Is your fiance are you, guys back in the same state.

750
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Speaker 2: I know she's a recent graduate and she's going to

751
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 2: be a major earner for you, allowing you to pursue

752
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 2: your sports career even greater.

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00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: I mean, she's not a race horse here. I mean,

754
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: let's let's going on two year old Philly here.

755
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 10: They're just gonna go win your millions. You could just

756
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 10: go screw around right about football for years. She's a doctor, right, Yeah,

757
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 10: she has earned her doctorate of physical therapy.

758
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Speaker 1: She back here.

759
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 2: That's a good I got a buddy, that's a moneymaker.

760
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: Shout out Michael Evangelist.

761
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 10: Prepping for the NPTE now, which is a massive test

762
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Speaker 10: that she's very stressed about.

763
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Speaker 1: You could just take your foot off the gas financially.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, yeah, Mike Evangelist to New Jersey

765
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Speaker 2: Jag physical therapy, big earners over there, good job show,

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Speaker 2: well done. All right, that's it for around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: All right, Nick, let's get into the games. It's time

768
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Speaker 2: now for Sunday Drive presented by the first ever Toyota

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Speaker 2: Grand Highlander. Yes, I teased it. Well, stay in the

770
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Speaker 2: AFC South. It is funky.

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Speaker 1: Here's a pistol set with Henry behind Levis. First aunt

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Speaker 1: Tuttan's at there twenty five yard line. Levis fakes to

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Speaker 1: give to Henry in the pocket.

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Speaker 8: Here comes Jerry Hughesta Perry the quarterback ball out and

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Speaker 8: here Sims.

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Speaker 6: A score for the Houston jacksons A's racings one to

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Speaker 6: then sco score.

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Speaker 1: How about that? Oh man, there's the call, Mark Vandermins shook.

779
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 2: You are the official, like Madden correspondent for NFL media.

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00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 2: That was like when you come around the edge and

781
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 2: you want to hit stick or you want to square

782
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: and hit him, but instead you just run into the guy.

783
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: That's what it looked like as Sheldon Rank and scooped

784
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 2: up the fumble after the.

785
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Speaker 1: Sack, took it to the house and C. J.

786
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Speaker 2: Stroud made a victorious return and the Texans twenty six

787
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Speaker 2: to three win over the last place Titans three nine

788
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 2: and seven teams and the buried Titans. That is the

789
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Speaker 2: AFC South. One week to play. Shookie, tell us about it.

790
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I had something similar happened to my Madden Game

791
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Speaker 10: a couple of nights ago, except they got the pass

792
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Speaker 10: off because it's the video game.

793
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, three nine and seven teams.

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Speaker 10: This is not how we saw the AFC South panning out,

795
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Speaker 10: maybe even as much as a couple of months ago.

796
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Speaker 1: And yet here we are the Texans gon a big win. CJ.

797
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: Stroud's return added a massive boost to their offense. It

798
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Speaker 1: was sorely needed.

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Speaker 10: They looked like a competent football team. Again, It's crazy

800
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Speaker 10: how a quarterback can do that for a team. The story,

801
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 10: of course that defensive touchdown. Look at the time stamp

802
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 10: on that. That's ten minutes to go in the second

803
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Speaker 10: quarter and they're already running away with it. They could

804
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 10: have stopped playing right there because the Titans were never

805
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 10: going to bring anything to the field that was much

806
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 10: of a threat. Will Levis got knocked out on that play.

807
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 10: Ryan Tannehill came in and played a solid game. But

808
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 10: these Titans are just to punchless offense right now. And

809
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 10: big day for Will Anderson two sacks. He's now set

810
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 10: the Texans franchise rookie sack record with seven sacks this season,

811
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Speaker 10: which is surprisingly low considering this is.

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Speaker 1: A team that's been a topic on Jenevian Clowney.

813
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Speaker 10: But here we are and it's gonna be a really

814
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Speaker 10: interesting final week in the division. Very excited to see

815
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Speaker 10: the Texans get back on track. I was worried we

816
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 10: were about to lose them there.

817
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Speaker 1: It's so CJ.

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Speaker 4: Stroud and what he's done this season makes them so appealing,

819
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Speaker 4: like Will Anderson on defense. And it's kind of crazy

820
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 4: to see where these two teams are compared to where

821
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 4: they were a couple of years ago. Mike Rabel very

822
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Speaker 4: good coach, no doubt about it, but they are in

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Speaker 4: their lack dating back to last season five and eighteen,

824
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Speaker 4: and I don't see a lot of player development. You're

825
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 4: probably done with Derek Henry after this season. You've got

826
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Speaker 4: issues at quarterback, and they're getting dominated up on both

827
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Speaker 4: sides of the line and especially on offense. So this

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Speaker 4: Texans team is exciting to me because of the young

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Speaker 4: players that have grown before our eyes.

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Speaker 3: I was wondering how did Stroud look in this game, Nick,

831
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Speaker 3: because like this season just feels like such a win

832
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 3: for them. It's almost we've almost now gotten so used

833
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 3: to it that it's not as shocking that they won

834
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,959
Speaker 3: nine they're nine and seven. They want to combine six

835
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 3: the last two seasons or whatever, even less the last

836
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Speaker 3: three seasons. It's insane and all these rookies playing well.

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Speaker 3: But did Stroud kind of look like earlier season Stroud?

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Speaker 3: Because that's a big game Colts Texans likely for a

839
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Speaker 3: playoff spot next week.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, what it was was the big play was missing,

841
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 10: but everything underneath us theres Stroud was the typically accurate quarterback,

842
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 10: you know, navigating the pocket well.

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00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: Had a little tiny bit of rust, but shook it off.

844
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Speaker 1: It was not a big deal with him. He looked comfortable.

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Speaker 10: It looked like the time away, you know, they gave

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00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 10: him enough time to come back out of the concussion

847
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 10: protocol and be back to form, and they received a

848
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Speaker 10: huge boost from him being out there. I mean, they're

849
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Speaker 10: night and day different with him on and off the field,

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Speaker 10: and I feel very confident going in the last week

851
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 10: the season.

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00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 3: Sorry about that. By the way, I shouldn't say likely.

853
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 3: I just thrown in the possibility of a tie. But

854
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 3: as long as one team wins, they're going into the playoffs.

855
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 1: We are tieless this year.

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Speaker 10: But yeah, it's an exciting moment for the Texans. Franchise

857
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 10: because you talk about Demiko Ryans and where they are

858
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 10: right now. He was a front runner for Coach of

859
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 10: the Year, and some other coaches have maybe surpassed him,

860
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 10: are gotten into the conversation and made it more complicated.

861
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Speaker 10: But I mean, if they finish off a playoff run,

862
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 10: all things considered, where they were the last couple of

863
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 10: years and where they are now, I have a really

864
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Speaker 10: hard time not picking him for that. I don't have

865
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Speaker 10: a vote, but if I did, hypothetically, I.

866
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Speaker 2: Will do a lot of good options as long the

867
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Speaker 2: Stroud gets out of even if things don't work out

868
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Speaker 2: next week, if he gets out of the season healthy,

869
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Speaker 2: this is a huge win for the organization. After some

870
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Speaker 2: down years and all the watts and drama and everything,

871
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 2: they are going in the right direction. That was the

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Speaker 2: Sunday Drive presented by Toyota Let's Go Places. Learn more

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Speaker 2: at Toyota dot com. Slash Ran Hilander Shooky. You are

874
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Speaker 2: also on the Chargers, Broncos tilt. Let's get into that.

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Speaker 11: Stidham's in the gun Burton the fullback two, He's right

876
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 11: for protection sake, six man rush. Stidham climbs the pocket,

877
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 11: throws on the run pass part strike thrown.

878
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 2: That is little Jordans Oh yeah, you spit him to

879
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: tackle Persson out of tell little Jordan, we go twenty

880
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: Little Jordan Hupper fifteen.

881
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: Oh, little Jordan five, Little Jordan's hell yeah, fifty four yards.

882
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: That's our dude, Stitham, Lil Jordan Humphrey, that's our best

883
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: friend who.

884
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: Has bit Jordan Humphrey on that catch and run.

885
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 2: Oh Dave Logan with the call yard Stidham, not Russell

886
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: Wilson threw for two hundred and twenty four yards and

887
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 2: that touchdown to as I said, best friend of the show,

888
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: Little Jordan Humphrey and the Broncos take care of the

889
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 2: visage of a team known as the Charger sixteen to

890
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 2: nine shook. The biggest storyline here was obviously the QB

891
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 2: switch for Denver. How did Stidham look and how many

892
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 2: shots to Russell Wilson did we see on the sideline?

893
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 11: Like?

894
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: What was the vibe there? A lot?

895
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 10: And for some reason Russe decided it was appropriate to

896
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 10: wear his helmet on the sideline the entire game.

897
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 3: Which I thought no way.

898
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: Well, he was active as the backup, but that doesn't matter.

899
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: No one wears a helmet when they're active.

900
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 2: As a now you hide from the world when yeah,

901
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 2: you know you've been terminated essentially, but you're still there.

902
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,959
Speaker 3: It's almost like a passive aggressive words.

903
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: It's very strange. What can someone explained to me? And

904
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to who cares?

905
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 2: But if the whole thing was we don't want to

906
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 2: risk the injury, messing with the guaranteed money, how is

907
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 2: he active and the backup behind Stidham? Was he going

908
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 2: to go in this game of yes, that's someone that.

909
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: Make it make sense? That part of it is super illogical.

910
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 3: Well, because I don't think it was go away Broncos,

911
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: go away, because I truly believe it was both. That

912
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,479
Speaker 3: was a big bonus. But I think at this point

913
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 3: they knew they were probably out of the playoffs. They

914
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 3: won this game and they are out of the playoffs,

915
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 3: So they were right about that. Uh, And they wanted

916
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 3: to see Stidham, who they thought might be better or or

917
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 3: just different, and wanted to see it and the money,

918
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 3: but they like, weren't gonna go too crazy and make

919
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 3: them the third quarterback, you know, just I mean.

920
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 2: That's if you really want to at least be consistent

921
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 2: in your messaging in the overall comprehensive plan of the team.

922
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: He doesn't sniff the field the rest of them.

923
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 3: And it was a very Russell Wilson like stat line,

924
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 3: like not not special, but good enough kept them moving.

925
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: Was that? Was that what it looked like? Pretty much?

926
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 10: I think Russ might have turned the ball over one

927
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 10: or two times if he'd been on the field, but

928
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 10: otherwise it was pretty much that. I mean, Stidham looked

929
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 10: like a guy who hadn't played since the end of

930
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 10: last season but still have the abilities that I would

931
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 10: go so far as to say seduced to coach, you

932
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 10: did believe that he should play in the starting lineup

933
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 10: and be a starting quarterback for the final two weeks.

934
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 10: I don't know what it is is you wear a

935
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 10: special cologne that just convinces his coach that with two

936
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 10: weeks left in the regular season and he's suddenly the guy.

937
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: I mean, two years in a row and this time around.

938
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 10: I mean, they won the game on like last year

939
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 10: when he played for the Raiders, but it wasn't super impressive.

940
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: That highlight that you guys just ran that was the

941
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: best play.

942
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 10: Of the game, and it was largely done by little

943
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 10: Jordan Humphrey, but he did enough. He missed some guys.

944
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 10: His accuracy was not on point for most of the game.

945
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 10: They missed some opportunities as a result. But again, they're

946
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 10: playing the Chargers, whose offense is only decent between the twenties,

947
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 10: so they had some room for air and they got

948
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 10: the job done. I'm not gonna lean on the win

949
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 10: as the defining metric here, but for a guy who

950
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 10: just came in after not playing all season, it's fine,

951
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 10: We'll go with it.

952
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 3: Sure why they only needed the Bengals or the Seahawks

953
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 3: to win in those late games, by the way, to

954
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 3: stay alive for next week, which you would have thought

955
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 3: they would have shared one of them. They did not

956
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 3: get one of those two results that they needed to

957
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 3: stay one.

958
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 2: I can tell you something. Fahrenheit Cologne. I might not

959
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: have done very well with women in high school, said I,

960
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 2: but I smelled great and I wish Fahrenheit was still

961
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 2: in vogue in the Cologne game because I would have

962
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: never stopped wearing it.

963
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: That is the best smelling stuff in the world. What

964
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 1: was your go to cologne? I wore Drakar. Oh, Yeah,

965
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 1: that's very It was the only one I even knew

966
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 1: about Pure Thanks, how about you, Shook.

967
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 10: Honestly, I still like to use a little bit from

968
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 10: time to time, but back in today is probably Chanelle Blue.

969
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 10: That was my big go to. I like that a

970
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 10: little bit of YSL. And then I got to tell you,

971
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 10: guys the story since we started with this. This is

972
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 10: how I'm going to get out of here with this.

973
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 10: Bridget decides to order some stuff from Nordstrom and they

974
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 10: accidentally throw in a bottle of cologne that's.

975
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: Worth four hundred dollars and you got it for free.

976
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: Wait what I'm using now? They accidentally threw it in.

977
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 10: It was not in the order, she was not charged

978
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 10: for it, and there it was, and it's a big

979
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 10: old bottle and I looked it up and I was like,

980
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 10: that is worth a lot.

981
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: I would not spend that money on Collogue found Money Fund.

982
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: Damn it, you smell like money. He's already earning for us.

983
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: There you go.

984
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 2: I'm telling you you've got the doctor. You're all set up.

985
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 2: Shook buddy. As twenty twenty three comes to a close,

986
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: we thank you for all your great work, and but

987
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: you're not going to get rid of us that easy.

988
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: We'll see into twenty twenty four as well.

989
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, hopefully four, maybe twenty twenty five. No day tomorrow's

990
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 10: not guaranteed. As Kyle Shanahan one said, we can all

991
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 10: be dead, but I'm happy to still be alive and

992
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 10: here on the pop with you guys.

993
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 3: We'll try to give you a better game next week

994
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four too.

995
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: I'm not counting on it, all right, Chuck, thank you, buddy.

996
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 2: All right, let us keep moving and uh yeah, let's

997
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: now get in in earnest. Let's get into the NFC

998
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 2: side of things, and let us start with an incredible finish,

999
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: incredibly frustrating if you're on the Detroit side of things.

1000
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: To Jarrow World, where the Cowboys and Lions went at

1001
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 2: it to the very end.

1002
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 8: The Lions are running out of two point plays, bradon

1003
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 8: having got it the head zone.

1004
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 12: Yet they're going from the baseboard line four to two,

1005
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 12: snap the golf look and throwing it to the left.

1006
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 13: It is s.

1007
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 12: Drop by the tight end, Mitchell and the Cowboys are

1008
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 12: gonna have a one point lad in the ball.

1009
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: That's one of the craziest on things.

1010
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 2: You will yeah, Brad Sham, oh yeah, god yeah, and

1011
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: I guess the tight end dropped it, but it was

1012
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: not a good pass by Jared Goff either. But in

1013
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 2: the defensive everyone connected with the lines offense, they kind

1014
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: of had a two point conversion and the lead taken

1015
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: from him, but the officials made the ruling that reverberated

1016
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 2: through Pro Football that it was an illegal substitution or

1017
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: legal touching wiped away the two point effort and a

1018
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 2: third two point try from the Lions did not go,

1019
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 2: so the Cowboys hold on twenty to nineteen. A huge

1020
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,919
Speaker 2: win for the Cowboys after what happens Mark twenty four

1021
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 2: hours later with the Eagles losing.

1022
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: We'll get to that, but Cowboys got away with one here.

1023
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 2: Don't want to put it all on that play, but

1024
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 2: we should start there because the play involving Taylor Decker

1025
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 2: that gets waved off is something that is going to

1026
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 2: sick in the craw of Lions fans.

1027
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 4: I mean to have to be at this point in

1028
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 4: the season and come out of this game with this

1029
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 4: is the talking point because the officiating in general, globally

1030
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 4: league wide has been a problem and this is just

1031
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 4: feels about as unjust of an ending and and and

1032
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 4: frankly like completely changes obviously the NFC playoff picture, and

1033
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 4: it changes everything that the Lions hoped to accomplish in

1034
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 4: many ways, like and it's it was an inexcusable mistake.

1035
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: The one thing that I up to it or anything.

1036
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 2: They stand by their story that they was not properly

1037
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 2: handled by Detroit, right, which is refuted broadly by the

1038
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: team that they did check the boxes.

1039
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: But the NFL has not come out and said they

1040
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 1: made a mistake.

1041
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 4: So all of us, though, who watched the game, it's

1042
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 4: pretty clear. And I think the thing that we kind

1043
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 4: of learned. I don't think an average fan would know this,

1044
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 4: and sometimes you know it just covering the game that

1045
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 4: if you're Dan Campbell, one of the reasons that he

1046
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 4: was absolutely furious and beside himself was that you spend

1047
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 4: time before these games with officials, like literally in person,

1048
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 4: with like a grease board, showing them ahead of time so.

1049
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 1: That they understand what you're doing.

1050
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 4: Like if you're gonna run a fake punt like they did,

1051
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 4: you tell them about that ahead of time, and to

1052
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 4: play like this, here's our alignment, here's whoess who's going

1053
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 4: to be doing what, So it wasn't like you're catching

1054
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 4: the officials off guard.

1055
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: They knew this was coming. They knew this was coming.

1056
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 4: And I think that's one reason that Dan Campbell, it's

1057
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 4: not just, you know, a regular officiating mistake. It's like

1058
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 4: this was specifically laid out to the officials on who

1059
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 4: was going to be doing what, and then this happened,

1060
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 4: and there's no reversal of it.

1061
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 1: There's no chance to make it right.

1062
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you saw the same thing last week with a

1063
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 2: you know that led to Jay or Alexander being suspended,

1064
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 2: where he made the mistake and he wasn't the captain

1065
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: and he made the wrong call.

1066
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: And the only reason that didn't run in Green Bay

1067
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: was because.

1068
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 2: Bearded Boy had spoke to the officials ahead ahead of

1069
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 2: that coin toss. This stuff happens all the time. I

1070
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 2: watched a clip on the sideline. It was an NFL

1071
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 2: Films clip of Kyle Shanahan telling the sideline official, Hey,

1072
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 2: I think it was Kittle. Kittle's gonna run this route

1073
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 2: and then this linebacker is gonna grab him. Watch And

1074
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 2: then that's exactly how it played out. And then they

1075
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 2: called defensive holding, like there is this conversation that's happening

1076
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 2: that apparently if the lines are to be believed, was

1077
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 2: disregarded and it cost them a game.

1078
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 3: I think after hearing everything, and it was fascinating and

1079
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 3: also boring because it's just these procedural rules. It's like

1080
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 3: a game shouldn't be decided like that, I almost thought, like, Wow,

1081
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 3: I'm almost surprised this doesn't happen more often because it's

1082
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 3: all happening in the heat of the moment, and it

1083
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 3: seems very clear after hearing what the lion said afterwards,

1084
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 3: after watching the videos, after seeing everything that happen, it

1085
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 3: seems very clear what happened. And ultimately it was like,

1086
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 3: there's two guys that are six foot seven and above,

1087
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 3: white guys, Taylor Decker and Dan Skipper. One of them's

1088
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 3: not usually in the game, that Skipper, that's usually the

1089
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 3: guy who does check in and is the guy on

1090
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 3: the outside, an extra lineman, and he just got those

1091
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 3: two guys confused because Decker pretty clearly and there's every

1092
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 3: reason to believe them, went over and tried to tell

1093
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 3: them while while our buddy Brad Allen, who's been in

1094
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 3: the firing circle all season, Adam Schefter wrote a whole

1095
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 3: freaking article about how Brad Allen's officiating crew was under

1096
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 3: a lot of heat because they keep messing up calls,

1097
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 3: including some PI calls in a Saints Falcons game.

1098
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: He wrote that article weeks ago.

1099
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 3: Kansas City, so and he just I think he just

1100
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,919
Speaker 3: had a moment where he totally got confused which guy

1101
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 3: was which, and that cost them that two point conversion,

1102
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 3: which really sucks, because that's part of the reason why

1103
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 3: that play was so cool was they were kind of

1104
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 3: playing with me with Dallas of like, normally it's gonna

1105
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 3: be Skipper, but now we're gonna put Decker over there,

1106
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 3: and it freaking worked.

1107
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: All right, Let's listen to this.

1108
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell did a very nice job here avoiding being

1109
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 2: fined while also letting everyone in the world know he's

1110
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 2: royally pissed about the way that game ended.

1111
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 13: Two people can't report. I don't want to talk about it,

1112
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 13: all right, I explain everything pre game to a t Okay,

1113
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 13: I did that seventy reported, fifty eight didn't or sixty

1114
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 13: eight didn't. We threw at sixty eight. That was the explanation.

1115
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 13: What would you be would you be frustrated right now?

1116
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: Is it on the execution? Is it?

1117
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 13: I don't like losing Dave, and that's what happened. We lost,

1118
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 13: and that bothers me, you know, it bothers me. I

1119
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 13: don't like having an L So that's the frustration.

1120
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: And you know what.

1121
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 2: The thing about Campbell and why you love him so

1122
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 2: much is he was going for two no matter what.

1123
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 2: Now you can say he's already clinched vision, he's got

1124
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 2: the home game. There wasn't really a clear pav to

1125
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 2: getting the number one seed, but still you have just

1126
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 2: so in his DNA. And it's the whole team that

1127
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 2: they were going for two, even when it was backed

1128
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 2: up to the seven yard line briefly, they were going

1129
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 2: for two. And the fact to be able to then

1130
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 2: have the onions that you carry in a wheelbarrow, to

1131
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 2: then get it done and have it taken away on

1132
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 2: a technicality that was wrong. That's a bummer. But it

1133
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 2: does the other side of this is the Cowboys one.

1134
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 2: And I want to say, and it should be said,

1135
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 2: for the second straight week in big time, money pressure situations,

1136
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott led his offense to a big score. This

1137
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 2: time it was a touchdown drive to put them ahead

1138
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: in the final minutes. Now, Greg, you could say, geez,

1139
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 2: that's two straight weeks. The Dallas defense had a chance

1140
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 2: to close out a game and failed, and that's very

1141
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 2: true as well. But at the end of the day,

1142
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 2: Dallas is set up here to get a home game

1143
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 2: and get that two seed, right.

1144
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 3: I wish Golf had hit that threat. That was a

1145
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 3: bad throw by Goff. That was their fourth two point

1146
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,439
Speaker 3: conversion attempt, essentially because the Cowboys had taken a time

1147
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 3: out right as they were about to run the first one,

1148
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 3: and I was so impressed that that's when they threw

1149
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 3: the trick play out, so that wasn't even going to

1150
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 3: be their play, but they switched it up. So I

1151
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 3: wish GoF had hit that throw to the tight end

1152
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,240
Speaker 3: so we wouldn't have this whole conversation. But that doesn't

1153
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 3: take away what happened in the first fifty eight minutes

1154
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 3: in that drive that you're talking about.

1155
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right.

1156
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 3: I think the Cowboys, for the most part, offensively did

1157
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 3: a lot of good things in this game. I thought

1158
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 3: Dak played as well as you could have humanly played

1159
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 3: for a guy who did throw an interception, which was

1160
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 3: his fault, and they only scored twenty against the Lions. Otherwise,

1161
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 3: he had money throw after money throw against pressure. The

1162
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 3: ninety two yarder to Lamb was just magical. A bunch

1163
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 3: of other really good decisions when guys were getting after him,

1164
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 3: and you mentioned it, yes, getting that touchdown drive or

1165
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 3: the getting the lead with that touchdown drive to Cooks.

1166
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 1: That said that game never should have even been in

1167
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: that position because Mike McCarthy went crazy. I don't know

1168
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 1: what's going Mike Zaddy was on another planet, right, Terry

1169
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: Jared Gouff.

1170
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 3: It was a fascinating game, and we'll spend like thirty

1171
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 3: minutes talking about it on NFL Plus when he check

1172
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 3: us out on Tuesday. But Goff had a good game

1173
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 3: until he threw an interception with just over two minutes

1174
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 3: to go that felt like it ended the game. But

1175
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 3: Zaddy throws three straight passes, including one where Dak throws

1176
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 3: it deepen out of bounds. They hit two of them

1177
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 3: to get a shorter field goal. You should meant I

1178
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 3: should have mentioned that, But like, it's kind of crazy

1179
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 3: because the Lions would have had less than a minute

1180
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 3: to go and no timeouts needing a touchdown if Zaddy

1181
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 3: just calls a run there, but instead they have one

1182
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 3: forty and they get all the way back in that

1183
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 3: position to set up the madness.

1184
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, daddy, stop it, please stop it. It's a

1185
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: little like come back to us.

1186
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 4: McCarthy has been known for this for years and years.

1187
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 4: We soon predict You're right, I mean, he's got it.

1188
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 4: Like at some point you've got to take a he

1189
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 4: took that sojour in year and like you could have

1190
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 4: spent some time on the time management thing.

1191
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: He's done a great job this season.

1192
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 4: But that's what worries me about Dallas when they get

1193
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 4: into the playoffs. It's like they've had meltdowns two years

1194
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 4: in a row in the playoffs where they couldn't have

1195
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 4: looked more disorganized. And and I get it, like Ceedee

1196
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 4: Lamb had the game of his life last night, and

1197
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 4: there's a lot to like in thirteen for seven.

1198
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 1: I mean that is insane. But it's like they shouldn't

1199
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:31,479
Speaker 1: have won this game.

1200
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 4: Like I came away very I'm like interesting, pretty fired

1201
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 4: up about like the way that there's no accountability with

1202
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 4: you if they did.

1203
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 2: Though they did win the game, and I thought they

1204
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 2: played well. Yeah, it wasn't like they played poorly. They

1205
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 2: did catch a big break. But it should also be

1206
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 2: said that even if that place stands, Dallas does go

1207
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 2: back down on the field, and Dak goes back on

1208
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: the field with an opportunity to kick a field goal,

1209
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 2: and you have the best kicker in the world this

1210
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 2: year on your team.

1211
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: So twenty three second had a time out.

1212
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 4: You're right, Well, never know that, I like, I share

1213
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 4: get the frustration.

1214
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: I really do. I get the frustration of it all.

1215
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 2: I actually the Zaddy throwing the ball over and over

1216
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 2: again basically shocked Troy and Joe into silence right And

1217
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 2: it also it made me think it was kind of

1218
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 2: did he like a score?

1219
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: Like? It made a think like, does Mike know what's

1220
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: going on right now?

1221
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 2: So I don't know. Listen, you know I'm a Zadi fan.

1222
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: I like an unpredictable Zaddi. So you throw him in.

1223
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 2: He's a wild guard, but the Cowboys might not be

1224
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 2: a wild guard. They might be right champion.

1225
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: I don't.

1226
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 3: I'm with you, Dan, I mean mark that I don't

1227
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 3: trust him in the end in a close, crazy game

1228
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 3: like this. But he did a lot of good things,

1229
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 3: I swear, even going into the final two minutes, like

1230
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 3: before Golf through that interception that really set up how

1231
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 3: it ended. I was thinking, man, this is one of

1232
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 3: the best games of the year. It's two good teams.

1233
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 3: They're going back and forth. The Dallas defense actually had

1234
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 3: a lot of good moments on their run defense where

1235
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 3: they got a ton of tackles for loss. Goff fought

1236
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 3: back with that beautiful throw to Jamison Williams. Was like

1237
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 3: one of the best throws I saw all year. Was

1238
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 3: it was back and forth, and I thought both teams like,

1239
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 3: look good before that moment and that the Cowboys would

1240
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 3: have been a deserving winner, and then just everything kind

1241
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 3: of hit the fan.

1242
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 2: It should be said that, yes, Goff through the big interception,

1243
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 2: McCarthy kind of bailed him out a little bit. And

1244
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 2: if he does hit his tight end and stride there

1245
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 2: James Mitchell, that's a two point conversion.

1246
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: So, yeah, throws the ball low, it's not caught.

1247
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 2: But if he hits him in stride the way he

1248
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 2: ninety if he throws that ball one hundred times ninety

1249
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 2: eight times, I think it's right on the money. He

1250
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 2: was a little low in a big spot and that

1251
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 2: and that was the difference.

1252
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 3: And he took ownership. I'm always impressed by Gough how

1253
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 3: he talks to the media. But he set the perfect

1254
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,479
Speaker 3: tone I thought, like where he mentioned everything they did wrong,

1255
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 3: but also very pointedly pointed out how much the refs

1256
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 3: did wrong too.

1257
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 2: All Right, one last thing on this game. I don't

1258
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 2: know speaking like what's going on. Jimmy Johnson only got

1259
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 2: into the Ring of Honor for the Dallas Cowboys, uh

1260
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 2: yesterday December thirtieth, twenty and twenty three, like a quarter

1261
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 2: century after he was the most.

1262
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: Successful head coach of his era.

1263
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 2: Here he is his final words during the halftime ceremony.

1264
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: The guy still got the.

1265
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 12: Juice, cosse all of you what makes this game so great?

1266
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 12: Thank you, thank you, thank you.

1267
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: And I just got one more thing to say. Do it, dude.

1268
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: How about tamp Town with Irvin like fainting in the

1269
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: background was awesome.

1270
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 3: I love him, I love I love that moment, Like

1271
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 3: that's what it's all about.

1272
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: It almost made it sure.

1273
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 3: He wouldn't have wanted to wait it, but you could

1274
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 3: tell he he savored the hell out of that.

1275
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and.

1276
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 2: They now have a chance to win the division because

1277
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 2: of what happened in Philadelphia.

1278
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 5: Seven seconds left ball at the Philly forty nine Cardinals

1279
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 5: up thirty five to thirty one. Maybe the final play.

1280
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 5: Hurts backing up to throw four seconds left two, This

1281
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 5: will be the final play.

1282
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: Hurts takes a shot deep middle of.

1283
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 5: The end zone and it is intercepted in the back.

1284
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: Of the end zone.

1285
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 5: It's by Blunt and the Arizona Cardinals give Jonathan Gannon

1286
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 5: a signature victory in his first season with the Redbirds.

1287
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: Happy New Year, Dave fashioned Ron Wolfley.

1288
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 2: My god, you hear a pin drop at the link

1289
01:00:56,200 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 2: after that, hell Mary heave fails, and you know, you

1290
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 2: could say Jonathan Gannon deserves bongos because that former Eagle

1291
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator stunned his old team and may have terminally.

1292
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: Fouled up the Eagles Super Bowl hopes.

1293
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,439
Speaker 2: James Connor ran for a two yard touchdown with thirty

1294
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 2: two seconds to play, and then the Arizona defense holds

1295
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 2: coming back from fifteen down the Cardinals due to stun

1296
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 2: the Eagles thirty five to thirty one mark.

1297
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: The Eagles entered December at nine to one. Been a long.

1298
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 2: December, quote Durrance, they exited. They use a cesslerism, floating

1299
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 2: trash back man. They looked like it today on defense too.

1300
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 2: They gave up twenty nine points in the second half.

1301
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, the most points that the Eagles

1302
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 2: have allowed in the sewing in a decade since they

1303
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 2: made this sort of chaotic, bizarre switch to Matt Patricia,

1304
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 2: they have allowed seventeen plus in the second half and

1305
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 2: three straight games this year ago.

1306
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: So Matt Patricia didn't fix their defense.

1307
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 4: He did not fit what they And you know what,

1308
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 4: I've seen the Arizona Cardinals.

1309
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: On the ground, especializ do this.

1310
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 4: They've run, they ran well against the Niners, they beat

1311
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 4: up Philly today. They had elongated, stretched out drives, a

1312
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 4: flood of scoring drives of like ten plus plays. Kyle

1313
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 4: Kyler Murray looked fantastic. James Connor ran the ball so well,

1314
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 4: and it was just kind of impressive them to see.

1315
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 4: And I think that part of me was like wondering,

1316
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon knows a lot of these players, he knows

1317
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,439
Speaker 4: this defense, and did that help.

1318
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know.

1319
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 4: In this case, it was just Arizona beating them down

1320
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 4: and mistakes on offense. For Philadelphia, it's the most rushing

1321
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 4: yards they've given up all year. It looked like it.

1322
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 4: It was just an impressive performance. And you know, early

1323
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 4: on in the game, Philly looked like they could catch

1324
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 4: fire a little bit. Sidney Brown had an incredible ninety

1325
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 4: eight yard pick six. Sidney Brown is the player that

1326
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 4: they ended up drafting because of the draft pick they

1327
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 4: got because Arizona tampered with Jonathan Gannon.

1328
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: So I was like that, that's pretty spice. That feels

1329
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: pretty poetic.

1330
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 4: But then it just the Arizona just took control and

1331
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 4: I think it kind of for me sealed that, like

1332
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 4: Kyler Murray's gonna stick around, like there's a plan here,

1333
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 4: and like I think they're well coached.

1334
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 1: The record doesn't reflect it, but they're a well coached team.

1335
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 3: They it is outrageous the numbers and just you know,

1336
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to watching this one later in the week.

1337
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 3: But they scored Arizona on They only had seven real

1338
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 3: possessions in this game. That's that's as low as it gets.

1339
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 3: So they got thirty two first downs. That's outrageous. Four

1340
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 3: hundred and forty nine yards in six scores. So they

1341
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 3: scored six times on seven possessions, including those four touchdowns

1342
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 3: in the second half. The only time they were stopped

1343
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 3: the whole game was that interception, and even that play

1344
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 3: the receiver was opening. It was like a miscommunication where

1345
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 3: Kyler thinks he's going one way and the receiver, it's

1346
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 3: a young receiver who knows who messed up on it,

1347
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 3: goes the other way. It's like, yeah, he caught it,

1348
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 3: and he runs down the field. But they didn't even

1349
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 3: They truly didn't make a stop ball game. And as

1350
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 3: much as Hurts has struggled and relatively to where he

1351
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 3: was last year, and they're not like an amazing ovinse,

1352
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 3: the story for them is how do they have the

1353
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 3: worst defense in league right now to the front seventh

1354
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 3: right like with the money they have invested, it makes

1355
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 3: no sense.

1356
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 4: It's one other note, DeVonta Smith left the stadium on

1357
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 4: crutches and and the game ended with like you know,

1358
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 4: Aj Brown looking super frustrated again, DeVonta Smith limping off,

1359
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 4: and me wondering what the future of the Eagles is

1360
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 4: right now.

1361
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 3: When they took the lead because they had the Jake

1362
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 3: Elliott kick the field goal thirty one twenty eight, they

1363
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 3: had given up a twenty one to six lead, but

1364
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 3: they had taken the lead again two minutes ago. You figure, okay,

1365
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 3: now the Eagles are gonna win. I was like just thinking, like,

1366
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 3: has there ever been a less happy like twelve and

1367
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 3: four team? But now it's has there ever been a

1368
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 3: less happy e let in five team? They're the first

1369
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 3: team in thirty five years right to start ten and

1370
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 3: one and lose five games. So it's it's basically unprecedented

1371
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 3: to start ten and one and end up with five losses.

1372
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: And you hate to see it.

1373
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 2: Nick Siriannis, such a humble guy be going through these

1374
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 2: struggles and perhaps being exposed without a better coaching staff.

1375
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 1: It just you hate to see it. Also is a

1376
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 1: little curse of domin play here.

1377
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 4: Eh, it's been a disastrous since that happened, since they,

1378
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 4: you know, put him into exodus.

1379
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: That's a great point. Bring back Tom. I don't know

1380
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 1: if they did. No there, he's not allowed. I mean

1381
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: he's there, he's still working. Speak him in. He's a VP.

1382
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: Put him as a mask, make him a mask. You

1383
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 1: gotta get him back on the sidelines.

1384
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 3: Is that a bad deal for him? He's up in

1385
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 3: the owner's box. He doesn't have to work.

1386
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 4: It's an assistant to the GM. I mean he's good,

1387
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 4: like he does a lot of different stuff for them.

1388
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: So they're eleven and five Cowboys. There are eleven and five.

1389
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 3: If the Cowboys win next week, they win the NFC East,

1390
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 3: that the Eagles would need a loss from the Cowboys

1391
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 3: against Washington to try to get the NFC East back.

1392
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 1: You mentioned even the Cowboys can't blow this, No, Dad,

1393
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

1394
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 3: So it'll probably be the Eagles as the five seed

1395
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 3: at the NFC South winner. You mentioned how it really

1396
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 3: that result really changed the Lions season. I think it

1397
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 3: really changed the Cowboys season. The Lions now have a

1398
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 3: bit of a rallying cry. They're going to be the

1399
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 3: three seed most likely instead of the two seed, which

1400
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 3: is a difference. They could be traveling in the divisional

1401
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 3: round instead of being at home. They could have a

1402
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 3: tougher opponent like the Rams the first round. So it

1403
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 3: does it changes their season.

1404
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 1: Another crack at the Cowboys.

1405
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 3: Right, so it sets up that they could be on

1406
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 3: the road back in Dallas.

1407
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 1: But who knows a lot to get to before then.

1408
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 4: Well that's a big difference. Yeah, all right, let's keep moving.

1409
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 2: The forty nine ers they had had to beat the

1410
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 2: Commanders on Sunday and get a little bit of help

1411
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 2: to lock up the one seed.

1412
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 1: Everything once San Francis goes away. Here's third down.

1413
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 6: Purty looks right, Purty now chased out of the pocket,

1414
01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 6: Now going back the other way.

1415
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: Three sixty span, it said, throws for the end zone.

1416
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: A York is open touched film that Washington Secondary. Do

1417
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 1: they even have eleven guys on the field?

1418
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 9: You are you?

1419
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 1: Are you?

1420
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 2: Greg Popping, Tim Ryan Eman, A good old time a

1421
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 2: New Year's Eve. You know they brought back Anderson Cooper.

1422
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 2: I love Cooper and the other guy? Who's the other guy?

1423
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: The bravo done? Andy Cohen? Cohen, Oh Cohen, Okay, Don

1424
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 1: Lemon's history. He's done. Wait, Andy Cohen's.

1425
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 4: Back Cohen and no, but they they took away booze

1426
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 4: from them the last couple of years.

1427
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,919
Speaker 1: Well it got a little boozy. Some stuffy CEO said

1428
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 1: no more drinking. Drinking's back.

1429
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 2: And guess what Zeusser is tuning in to CNN's Coveragetif you.

1430
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 4: Do remember that, Greg and I jogged by Anderson Cooper

1431
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 4: and he said a little it's gonna have been, sir,

1432
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 4: very nice.

1433
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 1: So you watch, so you watch, you watch Cooper, and

1434
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: you watch his buddy.

1435
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 3: I forgot his name again? Cohen Cohen Cooper and coch

1436
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 3: I was hot right now. Then last fifteen years.

1437
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 2: You hit midnight and you switch over and you watch

1438
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 2: Miley Cyrus.

1439
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: I always think she does a nice job. And this

1440
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: year she's got a hit.

1441
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 2: In the last few years, she's doing a nice job

1442
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 2: on the Year's eve, right, but she hasn't had a

1443
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 2: hit in seven years. Hit Flowers this year. So she's hot.

1444
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 2: So we got a nice, nice lineup.

1445
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 1: You've got a huge night ahead of you. It's gonna

1446
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 1: be wild. What's her hit?

1447
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 2: She had, like the biggest hit of the year. Okay, Flowers, Okay,

1448
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,640
Speaker 2: check it out. I will Eric. Can you sing just

1449
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 2: a little bit of Flowers as the resident young man?

1450
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 7: No, I have no clue, no idea had last time

1451
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 7: I heard May Cyrus's voice.

1452
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 1: Acting by myself. Flowers. Now I know that song.

1453
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 2: Now I recognize something, something something, All right, let's get

1454
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 2: to it.

1455
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 1: That was the biggest hit of the year, monster hit.

1456
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 1: I can take my I don't know about that. That's

1457
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 1: the biggest. The biggest is this big statement.

1458
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 4: Very very Rosenthal moment. You don't you don't even know

1459
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 4: the song. I'm telling you, it's the biggest hit of

1460
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 4: the year.

1461
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:20,679
Speaker 1: Number even if it's not. It could be top five,

1462
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 1: but it wouldn't be the biggest. How do you measure

1463
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: that they have streaming numbers? They have all sorts of things. Well,

1464
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: there are measurables for that kind of Rock.

1465
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 2: Party threw two touchdown passes, moving past the worst game

1466
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 2: of his young career, and the Niners cruise to a

1467
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 2: twenty seven to ten win over the Commanders in Landover

1468
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 2: minutes after the win, those Eagles we just talked about

1469
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 2: were stunned by the Cardinals, and that allows San Francis

1470
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 2: to go to clinch the number one seed and the

1471
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 2: buy and home field throughout the NFC playoffs. Mark, the

1472
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 2: Niners got the dub, they got the buy, and they

1473
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 2: moved past their Christmas nightmare.

1474
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 1: They're back.

1475
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 4: Well, well, I drafted this game because I wanted to

1476
01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 4: see how Rock Party specifically would well. Sure, but like

1477
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 4: I really was, like the whole Brock Party narrative got

1478
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 4: on my nerves and did it was?

1479
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 1: Yes, it did.

1480
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 11: He was.

1481
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 1: I can barely talk about it.

1482
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 4: He was absolutely flawless today and I thought he when

1483
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 4: you go watch this and added element to his game

1484
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 4: and he became the leading single season yardage record passer

1485
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 4: for the Niners in their history, and there's some competition there.

1486
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 4: He started to do some things today, throwing the ball

1487
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 4: improvisationally on that throat to Ayuk and just seeing the

1488
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 4: field in a way that reminded me like, I'm so

1489
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 4: tired of people just acting like he's sort of a

1490
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:37,679
Speaker 4: vanilla standing.

1491
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 1: He looked great, everyone was back. There is one.

1492
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 4: Concern though, Christian McCaffrey left the game with a calf injury,

1493
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 4: was questionable, never returned. They did have a good game

1494
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 4: from Eli Mitchell, but that's obviously like a key thing

1495
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,680
Speaker 4: to monitor. And one thing about Washington because you know,

1496
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 4: it was assumed that Jacoby Brissette was gonna start this

1497
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 4: but did a hamstring issue before the game, and so

1498
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 4: Sam Howell, who had been benched, gets thrown back in there.

1499
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 4: And you know he he did all right early on,

1500
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 4: but then it went it turns to complete chaos and

1501
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 4: it just like the look on Howell's face was like,

1502
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 4: what am I doing in here?

1503
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 1: So unpleasant situation.

1504
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 3: For this meant a lot for the forty nine ers,

1505
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 3: and I think McCaffrey is a great example why just

1506
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 3: guys playing through injuries they want to rest macalfr At

1507
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 3: that point in the game, I think they had a

1508
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 3: two score lead and it appeared he was trying to

1509
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 3: get back in the game, and I think it was just,

1510
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 3: you know, unfortunately for his fantasy owners, after dominating all year,

1511
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 3: he has a rare game without a touchdown. Ninety one

1512
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 3: total yards. Uh, that was quiet. It is right, he's

1513
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:46,640
Speaker 3: gonna sit out Week eighteen. You would assume they have

1514
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 3: nothing to play for. It meant a lot to them,

1515
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 3: you could really tell. Trent Williams talked after the game

1516
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 3: that he's never had that happen before, and they really

1517
01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 3: celebrated this number one see it in a way that

1518
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 3: you could tell it compared to previous forty nine ers teams,

1519
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 3: like they've never had this and it meant a lot.

1520
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 1: This was their goal the whole season. Very nice.

1521
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 3: You know what else was very nice? What the old

1522
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 3: zeus there with his accurate pop culture knowledge.

1523
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:19,560
Speaker 1: The number one stream song of twenty twenty three according

1524
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 1: to Spotify Flowers. That's why they call me a geriatric millennial.

1525
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:33,560
Speaker 1: He nailed it. That's global, global, one billion streams.

1526
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 3: Global, And you're right, party is a great second reaction

1527
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 3: player here.

1528
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 1: Nice stuff. I thought some Ofa's best bros came today.

1529
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 4: I think the way things and Mark have gone gone out,

1530
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 4: how'd she get paid by the brock Party camp?

1531
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:49,680
Speaker 1: By the way, what is the I think he's got.

1532
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 1: It's not a spin.

1533
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 3: I think he's got to get MVP votes. We'll see

1534
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 3: if Lamar the thing is. It's probably over now in

1535
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 3: terms of those two guys playing. I think the vote's

1536
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 3: going to be more split than people think. I think

1537
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 3: Lamar will win. I think do a sandwich prop on that.

1538
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 3: I think perty McCaffrey, like I think people are going

1539
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 3: to do other votes.

1540
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 2: I think Lamar is gonna win, and it's not gonna

1541
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 2: be close now because of the stage on Christmas. And then,

1542
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 2: like I was saying before the Christmas game, Greg, I

1543
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:21,560
Speaker 2: thought he needed that, like a massive statistical game to

1544
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 2: clean up some of the counting numbers, and he got

1545
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 2: that today with the five touchdowns of the perfect passer rating.

1546
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 4: I just think he now has a pretty spark, probably

1547
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 4: pretty unbeatable right now, and he's maybe it's like thirty

1548
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 4: two to eleven to four, look something like that. That's

1549
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 4: all I'm saying, CMC.

1550
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:39,719
Speaker 1: I thought.

1551
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 4: Believers, I feel like voters don't even remember four weeks ago,

1552
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 4: they'll remember today.

1553
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 1: Let's take one more break and then we will get

1554
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 1: you caught up in full. All right, we are back.

1555
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 2: Let's keep rolling its head to Seattle game with huge

1556
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 2: playoff implications between thee and Seahawks.

1557
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 9: Naji's alone setback Rudolph under center, reverse motion by Robinson

1558
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 9: back to the right.

1559
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 1: They give the Nagi side steps. A man finds his

1560
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 1: way inside the five CRIDs out to the one yard line.

1561
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 1: He didn't get in.

1562
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 9: I don't think yes, they really touchdown Nagie Harris there, unbelievable.

1563
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 9: Never say die, I want the end zone? And he

1564
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 9: got in from nine yards? Ze how did he do it?

1565
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 9: He said, a little bit like Barney from the Simpsons there.

1566
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 1: How did he do it?

1567
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 2: Could have been Bill Hillgrove and Craig Wolfley with the goal.

1568
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 2: We all have all the Wolfleys here, W DV E.

1569
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 2: Naj Harris. They did record that from Mose actually, so

1570
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:50,639
Speaker 2: it is possible. Nag Harris rushed for a season high

1571
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty two yards and he had that

1572
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 2: mean physical run one of two touchdowns. The Steelers keep

1573
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 2: their playoff hopes alive with a thirty to twenty three

1574
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:07,759
Speaker 2: win over the Seahawks. Tough one here, Gregie for Seattle,

1575
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 2: We're gonna get to them, but you gotta give out,

1576
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 2: just like Miley Cyrus flowers to Pittsburgh, who they looked

1577
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 2: dead and gone going into week sixteen, and then they

1578
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 2: stomp who was at Cincinnati. Yeah, and then they go

1579
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 2: to Seattle and their offense, which, let's face it has

1580
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:30,600
Speaker 2: never been overly impressive this year, but it, you know,

1581
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 2: it has kind of showed signs of life a life

1582
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 2: at time since Matt Canada exit the building. They were

1583
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 2: legitimately hard to handle in this game. Wasn't just Naj Harris,

1584
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 2: it was also Jalen Warren, who was really had a

1585
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 2: nice year for them. Mason Rudolph is not a game changer,

1586
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 2: but he is making plays for this team, and all

1587
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 2: of a sudden, the Steelers who once again have a

1588
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 2: winning record. Mike Tomlin, apologies to you, sir. They look

1589
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 2: pretty dangerous.

1590
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 3: Nine and seven, very much a lot. I've maybe Mason

1591
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 3: Rudolph is a game changer. I mean he's a season changer.

1592
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 3: He's an offense changer. Two hundred and seventy four yards

1593
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 3: and twenty four attempts the next Gen Stats had him

1594
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 3: plus seventeen completion percentage over expected, which is an extraordinarily

1595
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 3: high number. And when you he's had the two highest

1596
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 3: UH numbers for them this season by any Steelers quarterback

1597
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 3: and back to back weeks. And when you look at

1598
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 3: the spray chart, you know, the target chart or where

1599
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 3: he's thrown, it's like it looks like a different offense.

1600
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 3: The ball's just going deep down the field, and that's

1601
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 3: not what they were before.

1602
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 4: They had a one hundred yard rusher and receiver in

1603
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 4: the same game for the first time since twenty twenty one,

1604
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,560
Speaker 4: which tells you, like how an emick they've been. But

1605
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 4: I'm with you on like Mason Rudolph, who I had

1606
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:47,879
Speaker 4: written off as a non factor like has had absolute

1607
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 4: chemistry with their playmakers, and like Pickens is a completely

1608
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 4: different wide receiver with him at the quarterback.

1609
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 3: Seven for one thirty one, four hundred and sixty yards

1610
01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:00,759
Speaker 3: again only about eight possessions, which is crazy five for stuff.

1611
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 3: There's the most yards they've had since I think four

1612
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 3: years something like that for the Steelers. So it's it's

1613
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:10,599
Speaker 3: it's a long time.

1614
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 1: It wasn't just because Big Ben's stunk. The last two years.

1615
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 2: So it was those big ben Stinks years and then

1616
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 2: this uneven transition to pick it and beyond. Yeah, so

1617
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 2: any signs of life from Pittsburgh I think I said

1618
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 2: going into this week, id of like drafting them because

1619
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 2: they're so boring to watch and have been for a

1620
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 2: couple of years. I was watching this game, was like, okay,

1621
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 2: because Seattle at least early on as well, they're moving

1622
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 2: the ball as well.

1623
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 1: And you really actually saw, considering it's a.

1624
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 2: Game of all due respect Greg Gino Smith and Mason Rudolph,

1625
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 2: you were seeing some big time pocket throws.

1626
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 1: Rudolph had a throw where the pass rush.

1627
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 2: Is coming in on him, he hangs in the pocket,

1628
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 2: hangs a perfect ball down the sideline and Pickens makes

1629
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 2: a beautiful diving catch.

1630
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 1: It was one of the best kind of plays QB

1631
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 1: to wide receiver.

1632
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 3: You'll see the Seahawks give up those sort of plays

1633
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 3: and it was great throws, I thought, But they also

1634
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 3: gave up two hundred and two yards on the ground.

1635
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 3: This is why the NFL season is very confusing when

1636
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:10,719
Speaker 3: it comes to like numbers, the things can just change.

1637
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:14,600
Speaker 3: First five weeks of the season, Seahawks number one in

1638
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 3: the NFL in yards per carry allowed since then, the

1639
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 3: absolute worst run defense in the NFL. This defense has

1640
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 3: completely collapsed down the stretch. They are a bottom five

1641
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 3: defense in basically every metric over the last eight or

1642
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 3: nine weeks. And it's just a really disappointing loss. They

1643
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 3: are not out of it now, they're eight and eight,

1644
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 3: but they are going to need help. They are no

1645
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 3: longer in position to make the playoffs. They're gonna need

1646
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 3: the NFC North to Sunday Night winner to lose a game.

1647
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 3: And they also lost two offensive linemen in this game,

1648
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 3: which is maybe part of why Gina lost a fumble there.

1649
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 3: He played really well, I thought other but did lose

1650
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 3: a fumble on stripsack in the fourth quarter.

1651
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 2: That was big And I do not want to hear it.

1652
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 2: Tomlin is a sensible man. Will it be Kenny Pickett

1653
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 2: or Mason Rudolph, I do not want to hear No.

1654
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 2: This is not like will it be Mason Rudolph playing

1655
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:15,719
Speaker 2: too well the last two weeks? And it's twenty fourteen.

1656
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 2: Ben Roethlisberger ready to return after his tight rope ankle surgery. No, bro,

1657
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 2: Let's ride the hotthand and see see where things can.

1658
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 3: Go, and here's where they can go. For the Steelers,

1659
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:29,599
Speaker 3: much more alive than I expected. They need to win,

1660
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 3: but they're playing the Ravens.

1661
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:33,560
Speaker 1: He'd be tabulating.

1662
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 3: I'm tabulating, and the way it worked out for them

1663
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 3: pretty nice. Ravens thirteen and three, heavy favorites, you would think.

1664
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 3: But Ravens may be sitting next week. So the Steelers,

1665
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 3: they got to get that win. There's no scenario where

1666
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 3: they lose and get in. Gotta get their win and

1667
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 3: then they need either the Jaguars against the Titans or

1668
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:59,520
Speaker 3: the Bills against the Dolphins to lose. Okay, it's reasonable,

1669
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 3: it's pretty reasonable. It's probably the Bills. They're probably hoping

1670
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 3: for Miami and they're hoping for Tyler Huntley.

1671
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,679
Speaker 2: That's what they're based on everything that we're hearing around Baltimore.

1672
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 2: It totally feels like Lamar and company plays the first half,

1673
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:16,799
Speaker 2: stay in striking distance in that first half.

1674
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:18,679
Speaker 1: And then try to win the game in the final

1675
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 1: two quarters. Ooh oh. Nick Westling locked it up on

1676
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 1: Thursday night. As I understand, that could be a devastating

1677
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 1: blow there. Frush air.

1678
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 2: Nick Wesseling, well, he has to now go into hero

1679
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 2: ball mode and basically lock against you pretty much the

1680
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 2: rest of the way.

1681
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 3: What is he the greeback or four back? He's a

1682
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:43,639
Speaker 3: lot better lot of weeks, but did a fantastic job.

1683
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 3: It was great having Nick.

1684
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 1: Beautiful.

1685
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 2: Always good to have a Westling. Thank you Nick for

1686
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 2: your help on Thursday and all season. All right, let's

1687
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 2: go Happy New Year to the Westlings on the west

1688
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 2: side of Cincinnati and beyond. Let's head to the meadowlands

1689
01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 2: where the Rams are trying to keep their fit playoff

1690
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:02,799
Speaker 2: hops uh flickering, and it got pretty scary.

1691
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:10,720
Speaker 1: Middle of the field officially fifty four oh number there.

1692
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 1: Firstly in the final minute of regulation. Who is that Mason?

1693
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:17,679
Speaker 1: It clears the little is that Mason Crosby wearing number

1694
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 1: twenty one.

1695
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 2: It's get off my field, wo win, Get off the field,

1696
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 2: Mason Crosby, number twenty one.

1697
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 1: Mark. You do not abide by that. I thought JB.

1698
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 1: Long really deserved you know a little more, spot.

1699
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 4: J really that you do you love as much as

1700
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 4: anyone I noted to jump into these booths during these

1701
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 4: calls and go with your own threat of it.

1702
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 1: Would be weird if you do anyone else that did that,

1703
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:47,600
Speaker 1: because you Jabian. I will see him at Jack's barbershop,

1704
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 1: and we're gonna work. We're gonna work through.

1705
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 2: What just happened there because Mason Crosby, wearing number twenty one,

1706
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:58,640
Speaker 2: was wide left. That came after Tyrod Taylor had a

1707
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 2: hideous two point conversion and miss that allowed the Rams

1708
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 2: to stay ahead, and they end up escaping with the

1709
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 2: twenty six to twenty five win ob Regima and Los

1710
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 2: Angeles has clinched.

1711
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 1: Uh wait, Los Angeles clinched the playoff. Bers, they're in.

1712
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 1: They're in at that moment they happen, but with the

1713
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 1: Seahawks following them out as complicated.

1714
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 2: As Greg said, when the Seahawks fell, the Rams make

1715
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Quite a rise for the team across the sidewalk.

1716
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 3: Greg, Yeah, yeah, sometimes you need some luck, and I

1717
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 3: think the Rams played a good game, a good enough

1718
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 3: game to win for most of the game, and then

1719
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 3: started falling apart late. Special teams gives up a big

1720
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 3: return to Gunner ol Chevski with three twenty seven to go.

1721
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:46,719
Speaker 3: Their special teams has been a disasters that was wild.

1722
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 3: I mean they missed two extra points the Rams in

1723
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 3: this game. One of them was totally on Sean mcvagh

1724
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 3: after you had already missed an extra point and you're

1725
01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:00,679
Speaker 3: up seven late in the game, it was fourth quarter,

1726
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 3: you go for two to get.

1727
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: It to nine to make it a two score game.

1728
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 1: Plus you know Havershick, he doesn't have.

1729
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 3: Her shick, I didn't have anything, and so they go

1730
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 3: for the other extra way he missed another one. I

1731
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 3: got to assume that's the last time we see Havershick

1732
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 3: in a Rams uniform. McVeigh, I could even go through

1733
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 3: it more just drive me crazy with the game management.

1734
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 3: But then, yeah, a little bit of luck. Tyrod Taylor,

1735
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 3: you mentioned it missed a miss two point conversion, which

1736
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 3: again only happened because of a mess up on special

1737
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 3: teams by the Rams. They had a penalty on an

1738
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 3: extra point and Dable, I don't blame him, took the

1739
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 3: point off. It would have been a tie game went

1740
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 3: for the two because they was then at the one

1741
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,719
Speaker 3: yard line, had a perfect play dialed up and Tyrod

1742
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 3: just misses a total gimme. Dable then also assists the

1743
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 3: Rams there because the Rams at the end, after being

1744
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:52,680
Speaker 3: too conservative on offense, gives the ball back to the

1745
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 3: Giants one oh eight to go. Tyrod has a big

1746
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 3: run to put him in position to go win that game.

1747
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 3: But then Dable gets crazy because conservative, they spike it

1748
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 3: with thirty eight seconds left. Don't love wasting the time

1749
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,599
Speaker 3: down there. But okay, but then you called a run

1750
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:12,639
Speaker 3: the next play. Mystifying to me when you got Mason Crosby, you're.

1751
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 1: Setting up a film for twenty one fifty yarder and

1752
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 1: then McVeigh calls a time out.

1753
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 3: That was even more mistifying to me. But then the

1754
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 3: Giants ski they couldn't get it. Give the Rams defense

1755
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 3: some credit. The Rams defense played well in this game.

1756
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 3: I know it doesn't seem like it. They put up

1757
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 3: twenty five points to the Rams defense only gave up

1758
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:32,640
Speaker 3: thirteen points. Really in this it was turnovers by the

1759
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 3: Rams offense and special teams.

1760
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 1: What was going on? Sorry? This game was crazy?

1761
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 4: What was going on with the moment where McVeigh and

1762
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 4: Stafford seem to be going at each other.

1763
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 1: That was on the third down play before the.

1764
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 3: Giants you know, got the ball at the end they

1765
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:53,680
Speaker 3: run run pass there and I thought, again McVeigh was

1766
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 3: too conservative, not throwing on the first two downs because

1767
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 3: he just wanted to kill the clock. Was hoping to

1768
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 3: get out of there, and then wing Martindale, which was

1769
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:03,600
Speaker 3: kind of eating Stafford's lunch in the second half in

1770
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 3: a way that I haven't seen against This Rams offense

1771
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 3: just calls a blitz and there was total confusion. Everyone

1772
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 3: runs free, and so I think McVeigh and Stafford were

1773
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 3: like confused about that play caller, why Stafford didn't fix

1774
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 3: the protection or why mcvagh messed up. But it was

1775
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 3: kind of a meltdown by the Rams in the fourth

1776
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:24,600
Speaker 3: quarter after a good three first three quarters. But they

1777
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 3: survived anyway, That's how it works.

1778
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 2: So there's an exciting element to knowing that the Rams

1779
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 2: on the first weekend of the playoffs will lose in

1780
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:37,759
Speaker 2: horrific fashion. No special teams, Like there's something like exciting

1781
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 2: about just wondering like what will it be?

1782
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 1: Like, how will it happen?

1783
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 2: Be a missfield goal, will be a block punt, will

1784
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 2: be a hideous tripping penalty? Will you know the holder

1785
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 2: drop a snap? I mean, mark the mind. It just

1786
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 2: wanders all these different multiple choice tests. You know that

1787
01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:00,639
Speaker 2: the Rams will foul up their season on space teams.

1788
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 3: Kyrin Williams three more touchdowns up to fifteen another one

1789
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 3: hundred yardsgue winner and then Puka Nakua five for one

1790
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 3: to eighteen. He made a big eighty yard play like

1791
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:12,839
Speaker 3: he is their number one. Cup looks a little injured

1792
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:15,680
Speaker 3: and Poka now and granted he's getting the extra game.

1793
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 3: So he fell just short of the quote unquote sixteen

1794
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 3: game records, but he's four catches and thirty yards away

1795
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 3: from setting the rookie records for catches and receiving, and

1796
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 3: he's getting that extra We'll don't do it.

1797
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 1: Uh to Soldier field first.

1798
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 8: And goal fields, with Taylor motioning left then back to

1799
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 8: the right, takes the snap up the middle on the

1800
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:38,680
Speaker 8: delay fields, pusting left to the five.

1801
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:42,559
Speaker 1: To the pilot, puts the ball on the orange head

1802
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 1: into the paint. Touchdown bears justin fields. Fourth of the year.

1803
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 12: A nine yard touchdown caps off the drive at a

1804
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 12: thirteen to nothing Fairs league.

1805
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 2: If they wanted to say something, how you made me

1806
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 2: self catching Zip zipped it up an insight and like,

1807
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:02,719
Speaker 2: I just thought it seemed to be craving of yours.

1808
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 1: Zip locked roway the key.

1809
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 3: I feel like not liking it is just like a

1810
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 3: little implied in pointing of that, I mean just a

1811
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,520
Speaker 3: little little needle by me, a little needle.

1812
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 2: Jeff Johnnyack with the call a little Justin Fields throws

1813
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 2: for two hundred and sixty eight yards in a touchdown

1814
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:24,559
Speaker 2: pass he rushes for that score too, and what who

1815
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 2: knows that could be it for him in Chicago is

1816
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 2: a home player. The Bears stick it to the Falcons,

1817
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 2: who stink thirty seven to seventeen in a game that

1818
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 2: started with the snow coming down in Soldier Field. I

1819
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:41,560
Speaker 2: love it, and I tweeted this, and I I know,

1820
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 2: I think I'm on the I'm not in the majority here,

1821
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 2: but I'm watching Fields and I'm watching the connection he

1822
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 2: has with DJ Moore nine for one fifty nine in

1823
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:53,600
Speaker 2: a touch and that scramble for the touchdown, and the

1824
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 2: there was a Bears fans know exactly what I'm talking about.

1825
01:27:56,520 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 2: Another play where Fields gets out of a certain then

1826
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:04,679
Speaker 2: you know, Pirouet's away and most quarterbacks would be happy

1827
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 2: to get back to the line of scrimmage, but no,

1828
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 2: he ends up running for like fifteen yards and a

1829
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 2: first And I'm thinking all this stuff, and I'm like,

1830
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 2: do you really do you really want to just grade

1831
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:15,559
Speaker 2: that guy for a lotto ticket?

1832
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking as I'm watching this game, and

1833
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 1: I know that you can make the case for it,

1834
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 1: and we will talk about it. There's going plenty of

1835
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:23,720
Speaker 1: time to talk about that.

1836
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 2: But this is a game where you see the type

1837
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:29,720
Speaker 2: of play from fields that like, are they building something here?

1838
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:31,760
Speaker 2: And if they are, and I feel like they are,

1839
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 2: that there's been incremental progress here as the season's gone

1840
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:36,640
Speaker 2: along and the team's getting better and they're going to

1841
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 2: have the ability to spend money and bring in better players,

1842
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 2: you really want to blow it up for a lot

1843
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 2: of ticket.

1844
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:44,639
Speaker 1: That was my takeaway from this game. I mean, you've

1845
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 1: got the stadium chanting his name, yeah, and that matters.

1846
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 1: It does. Like I look opinion on the quarterback.

1847
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 2: I think I'm not saying that front offices should use

1848
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 2: that as the reason, but I think there is an

1849
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 2: energy around the team with field there and God just

1850
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 2: thrown it the other way. If they traded him to

1851
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 2: the Giants this offseason and he becomes a superstar for

1852
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 2: the New York team in the NFC, that would be

1853
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 2: an all time you know shot to the lower section

1854
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 2: of the fan base unless they you know, draft a

1855
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame or something.

1856
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 3: But still they've won four out of five. I think

1857
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 3: they're better than right now. Some teams that are going

1858
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:30,599
Speaker 3: to make the play lower section, like the the Afs,

1859
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 3: you know, like put them against the NFC South winner.

1860
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 1: I'm taking the Bears.

1861
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 3: The only time the Bears have lost in the last

1862
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:39,680
Speaker 3: five games was that heartbreaker versus the Browns or else.

1863
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:41,040
Speaker 1: They could very well.

1864
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:43,760
Speaker 2: Be about in this PLAYFF team in the South anc

1865
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 2: right right exactly.

1866
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:49,640
Speaker 3: Maybe not Texans, but yeah, but they would be right

1867
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 3: there because they they they are. They have put together something.

1868
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 3: It's a really good defense and enough playmaking on offense.

1869
01:29:56,800 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 3: And our guy in rapport, said eber Flus. He puts

1870
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 3: some caveats in it that needs to finish well, but

1871
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 3: this result obviously is a great start to that that

1872
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 3: he's going to end up keeping that Bears job.

1873
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 4: Ibraflus had no public identity to the vast majority of

1874
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 4: football watchers, and I think that's changed now.

1875
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 1: His defense has been among the best.

1876
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 3: It's been really good, and they were eliminated on Sunday

1877
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:27,639
Speaker 3: despite the win.

1878
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 1: But I think they're threatening the needle. They got the

1879
01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:31,639
Speaker 1: number one pick from the Panthers.

1880
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 3: They've looked good fields is helping his trade value if

1881
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:36,800
Speaker 3: they do want to trade him. Like, it's actually a

1882
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:39,200
Speaker 3: pretty good time to be a Bears fan, unlike the Falcons,

1883
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 3: who don't have a quarterback, who aren't probably going to

1884
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 3: make the playoffs in this terrible division, and who knows

1885
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 3: what they're going to do in terms of their head coach.

1886
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 4: I mean, there is there is some reporting that he's

1887
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 4: gonna stick around Arthur Smith, but I like, I can't

1888
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 4: think of a team that I felt more differently about

1889
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:56,559
Speaker 4: back in August.

1890
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 3: But that I hear you, But that reporting was also

1891
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:00,680
Speaker 3: before they lost by twenty of the Bears and then

1892
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 3: they play the Saints next week. If you lose by

1893
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 3: twenty to the Saints and you're seven and ten and

1894
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 3: the third place, we'll see they are still alive though

1895
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 3: for the division. The ESPN and bad incorrectly sent a

1896
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 3: tweet out that said they were eliminated and left it

1897
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:16,160
Speaker 3: up for thirty minutes. But no, they actually can win

1898
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:18,920
Speaker 3: the division if the Bucks lose next week and they

1899
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:19,559
Speaker 3: beat the Saints.

1900
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, the play calling from Smith was bad in this game,

1901
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:25,760
Speaker 2: and somehow they're still alive because of what happened in

1902
01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:27,599
Speaker 2: the last game. We're going to talk about before Sunday

1903
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:32,760
Speaker 2: Night football. Tampa Bay had a chance to hunch their

1904
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 2: ticket and they failed.

1905
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:38,679
Speaker 4: There's the snat here trumps pressure car throws it towards

1906
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:39,960
Speaker 4: he ends on looking for Taysom Hill.

1907
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 1: Chasom Hill makes the catch on the near side, and

1908
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:44,760
Speaker 1: that is a touchdown.

1909
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 8: To Taysom Hill, his second reception of the day.

1910
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 2: He's thrown a pass, caught a pass, thrown a pass,

1911
01:31:55,880 --> 01:32:00,080
Speaker 2: caught a pass. Mike Costs with the call ww we

1912
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 2: the NFC Salva is freaking hilarious. Derek Carr threw two

1913
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:07,559
Speaker 2: touchdown passes. The Saints beat the Bucks twenty three to thirteen.

1914
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 2: They climbed back into a tie with Tampa Bay for

1915
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:14,839
Speaker 2: first place in the NFL's only division without a winning record.

1916
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:18,800
Speaker 1: Mark Why why?

1917
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:23,000
Speaker 4: What a disappointing performance considering what the Bucks have been

1918
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:25,760
Speaker 4: for the past month, what bigger Mayfield's been. He had

1919
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:29,080
Speaker 4: about forty yards in the first half on Tampa's first

1920
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 4: eight drives.

1921
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 1: You had.

1922
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:36,400
Speaker 4: Four to three and ounce two interceptions in a fumble.

1923
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 4: They melted. They showed up also looking incredibly flat. Where

1924
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:45,639
Speaker 4: the Saints, who have been a chaotic mess in certain

1925
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:50,040
Speaker 4: ways and driving their fans crazy, and I started to

1926
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 4: see Saints fans saying, wait a minute, this is the

1927
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:54,400
Speaker 4: this is the version of Derek Carr that we've waited for.

1928
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:56,360
Speaker 1: He was ten for thirteen on third downs.

1929
01:32:57,400 --> 01:32:58,840
Speaker 4: They were a little banged up, and he made a

1930
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:01,559
Speaker 4: great use of Juwan Johnson and his tight ends. One

1931
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 4: hundred and thirty three of his yards and both touchdowns

1932
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:08,240
Speaker 4: went to tight ends, and they looked really functional. They

1933
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 4: lost Alvin Kamara in the middle of this game, but

1934
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:13,320
Speaker 4: they were the team that came out and stomped Tampa

1935
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 4: Bay from ward to war. The scorer is not indicative

1936
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 4: of what this game looked like for three plus quarters.

1937
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 4: I mean, Baker and the Bucks did the thing where

1938
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:22,840
Speaker 4: they kind of climbed back into it. But this was

1939
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:24,680
Speaker 4: not the Bucks team that I expected to see, And

1940
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:26,760
Speaker 4: this was not the Baker Mayfield I expected to see.

1941
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:29,640
Speaker 4: And the Saints, who maybe have a new coach a

1942
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:31,760
Speaker 4: couple of weeks from now, played very hard. At a

1943
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:35,679
Speaker 4: salon today, we keep saying that we padam Ellie aching

1944
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:37,760
Speaker 4: around the Saints this year, and they could watch them

1945
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:39,679
Speaker 4: hosting a playoff game in two weeks.

1946
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 2: I mean that it's certainly there's a chance of it now,

1947
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 2: and that's crazy. But I think maybe the lesson here

1948
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 2: for all of us, and Mark, I know you got

1949
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:53,800
Speaker 2: behind the Buccaneers on a a locular level.

1950
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 1: None of these teams are worthy of trust.

1951
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:00,920
Speaker 2: And even the ones that we'll string a couple of

1952
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 2: wins together like that, come back back.

1953
01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:05,799
Speaker 4: To Earth is always just around the corner. And for Tampa,

1954
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:09,160
Speaker 4: that was today, right, you know what, Mark? Unfortunately, and

1955
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 4: I was with you. I this was the game I

1956
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:16,680
Speaker 4: was really thinking of locking. And one thing you didn't do,

1957
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:18,920
Speaker 4: though I did, is I took a rest stop.

1958
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:21,719
Speaker 1: Stop. I went to a rest stop.

1959
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 3: And they get the Saints come back from that Thursday

1960
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 3: night game, look at their wounds, A nice long weekend

1961
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 3: there while the Bucks are working hard, and that little

1962
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:33,080
Speaker 3: extra rest.

1963
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 1: Such a good show because it's it just takes you

1964
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:42,599
Speaker 1: inside the game. Maybe the Bucks knew that all they

1965
01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:44,439
Speaker 1: have to do is beat the Panthers next week to

1966
01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 1: win the division, because that is still true.

1967
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 3: All they have to do is beat the Panthers next

1968
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:53,240
Speaker 3: week and they win the division. The Saints are probably

1969
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 3: still alive for the wild card, but barely at A

1970
01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:58,599
Speaker 3: and A, and this is a nightmare scenario for Saints fans,

1971
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 3: because you're right, I think the keep Dennis Allen if

1972
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:03,040
Speaker 3: they go nine to eight and they beat the Falcons

1973
01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:06,720
Speaker 3: and then move like they'll keep Dennis Allen, but they'll

1974
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:08,720
Speaker 3: miss the playoffs. That's kind of a bad combo. They

1975
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:10,800
Speaker 3: could get the wild card though, but they would need

1976
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 3: to win. They would need the Cardinals, uh to beat

1977
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 3: the Seahawks that is possible, and they would need the

1978
01:35:19,160 --> 01:35:25,479
Speaker 3: Bears to beat Packers. They're a live for the division

1979
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:28,719
Speaker 3: and the wild card eighteen three things.

1980
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:31,519
Speaker 2: Stick that in your pipe and smoke it like I'm

1981
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 2: gonna feel bad for anybody whose team is alive into

1982
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 2: the last week.

1983
01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 1: And Cars not going. He's played two of his best

1984
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:42,559
Speaker 1: games increasingly on Dan's radar. The car has been very good.

1985
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:45,080
Speaker 4: I mean he has multiple touchdown passes, like four games

1986
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 4: in a row or something he's played.

1987
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:48,600
Speaker 1: You're not allowed to say that. The strike it.

1988
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:53,639
Speaker 4: I mean, he has great but fine, I'm just saying

1989
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:57,920
Speaker 4: they could be a division champ. It's funny, all right. Uh,

1990
01:35:58,160 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 4: let's head to Sunday Night football.

1991
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:02,479
Speaker 1: To receiver stack on the left, off that stack read

1992
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 1: in motion to the right.

1993
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 5: It is second down and ten for the Green Bay

1994
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 5: Packers at the twenty five and Minnesota snap to love.

1995
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 1: He looks, he throws the middle. He's got red cutting left,

1996
01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 1: soup to defender, twenty turns corner, fifteen, ten to five.

1997
01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:20,680
Speaker 6: He has a touchdowns touchdown, Dada Reid. He is dominant

1998
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:29,400
Speaker 6: here tonight. Twenty five yard touchdown pass. It's twenty three

1999
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 6: to three.

2000
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:34,680
Speaker 1: Dayden Reid dominant. How about that.

2001
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:39,760
Speaker 2: We're back at our home studios now to close things out.

2002
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:43,479
Speaker 2: And it was Jayden Reid going for two scores, including

2003
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:46,680
Speaker 2: that game ice A really in the final seconds of

2004
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:50,439
Speaker 2: the first half in the Packers cruise from there, thirty

2005
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 2: three to ten over the whoebegone team of around the NFL,

2006
01:36:55,800 --> 01:37:00,479
Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings. The Vikings seven and nine and pretty much

2007
01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:03,759
Speaker 2: out of it now, but mathematically still alive. The Packers

2008
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:06,240
Speaker 2: eight and eight, and they have a lot on the

2009
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:13,760
Speaker 2: line heading into Week eighteen. This game, greg was not competitive.

2010
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:16,720
Speaker 2: This two teams in very different places.

2011
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:21,639
Speaker 3: Two quarterback situations that couldn't be more different. Jared Hall

2012
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:25,839
Speaker 3: starts gets benched at halftime. Wasn't like the worst quarterback

2013
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:28,439
Speaker 3: you've ever seen, but there was no way he was

2014
01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:31,639
Speaker 3: going to lead a three touchdown comeback. Nick Mullins wasn't either,

2015
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:35,680
Speaker 3: because Jordan Love just kept pouring it on. I just

2016
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 3: think you got to look at Jordan Love's first start

2017
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:39,840
Speaker 3: against the Vikings, where he was a hot mess. The

2018
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:42,040
Speaker 3: team around him was a hot mess. They're dropping eight

2019
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:44,400
Speaker 3: into coverage, he doesn't know what to do, blah blah blah.

2020
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:48,400
Speaker 3: And then tonight two fifty six, three touchdowns, so many

2021
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 3: good throws, you know, one where he's jumping up in

2022
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:53,600
Speaker 3: the air and throwing it, but a couple that are

2023
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:56,640
Speaker 3: crossed his body. But more than anything, just like reacting

2024
01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 3: to all the blitzes that were his way and just

2025
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:02,800
Speaker 3: looking like a very composed veteran quarterback despite not having

2026
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:06,400
Speaker 3: don Tavian Wicks, Luke Musgrave. That play we heard from

2027
01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:08,000
Speaker 3: Reid was the last one on the night. He left

2028
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:10,880
Speaker 3: with a chest injury from that play and Christian Watson,

2029
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:13,679
Speaker 3: and it doesn't matter. The Packers were freaking rolling, even

2030
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:15,720
Speaker 3: in the second half when they had the big lead.

2031
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 3: He's just so impressive and they are one win away

2032
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:21,120
Speaker 3: against the Bears. That is a spicy game next week.

2033
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:24,559
Speaker 3: The Packers are one win away from making the playoffs

2034
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:26,479
Speaker 3: in a very fun playoff team and.

2035
01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:29,599
Speaker 4: I love has had you know, some reps in practice

2036
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 4: dealing with banged up wide receivers. It seems like that's

2037
01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:36,200
Speaker 4: been a theme for them for a while. Now there's

2038
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 4: such a diff it's him and it's what he's done

2039
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:41,639
Speaker 4: and what he's become, but also like to have Aaron

2040
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:44,320
Speaker 4: Jones go off for one hundred and twenty yards like

2041
01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:46,360
Speaker 4: they were missing him for so long. I think the

2042
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 4: surprise in this game for me is really just the

2043
01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 4: Vikings defense collapsing, like they they've been a good defense

2044
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:56,680
Speaker 4: and they were just victimized from the start tonight. And

2045
01:38:56,800 --> 01:38:58,640
Speaker 4: I you know, I'm with you that Hall wasn't a

2046
01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 4: complete disaster. But I think, you know, even on the

2047
01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 4: Thursday preview show, I just Nick Mullens is Nick Mullins,

2048
01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 4: and I get that, but it's like.

2049
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:08,120
Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't like this decision.

2050
01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:12,120
Speaker 4: There was a risk attached to it, more risk to

2051
01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:14,400
Speaker 4: me than having Nick Mullins in there, who, at least

2052
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:17,120
Speaker 4: through his mistakes, seems productive and a bit more like

2053
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:19,479
Speaker 4: a gunslinger. And when he came in, you know, he

2054
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:21,960
Speaker 4: got Justin Jefferson going a little bit, and I thought

2055
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:25,240
Speaker 4: that they responded to him, and so if you're Kevin O'Connell.

2056
01:39:25,479 --> 01:39:27,040
Speaker 4: You're in a tough spot. You have been all year

2057
01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 4: at quarterback. But a bit of miscalculation in my book.

2058
01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:32,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Mullins average.

2059
01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:34,960
Speaker 2: He was in the Gabbard zone as well, so and

2060
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:36,960
Speaker 2: the you know, they didn't light it up in the

2061
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:38,759
Speaker 2: second half, but you know, I think.

2062
01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:41,200
Speaker 3: With they never got the ball back because the defense

2063
01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:42,400
Speaker 3: just couldn't get off the field.

2064
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:45,360
Speaker 2: No, it was the disastrous game, and they were missing

2065
01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 2: a couple of guys DJ want Byron Murphy Junior. But

2066
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:53,599
Speaker 2: that doesn't explain a no show like this, I think.

2067
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 2: And the reason why, even though I didn't necessarily agree

2068
01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:01,320
Speaker 2: with go to Hall, you knew and the way O'Connell

2069
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:05,000
Speaker 2: seems to be wired like he couldn't wait. He could

2070
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:07,200
Speaker 2: not wait to get Dobbs out of the lineup after

2071
01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 2: those turnover marred games, and Mullins was playing so careless

2072
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:13,280
Speaker 2: with the football that I think he just I guess

2073
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:16,679
Speaker 2: that's part of his checklist of a quarterback. You can't

2074
01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 2: be someone who turns the ball over. And if they

2075
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:21,679
Speaker 2: bring back Kirk Cousins next year, which I fully expect,

2076
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:24,400
Speaker 2: I believe that they will, he was playing so well

2077
01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:26,600
Speaker 2: and he's really now established himself in that city in

2078
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 2: a lot of ways, like they'll get the quarterback.

2079
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:32,160
Speaker 1: Position calmed down. But yeah, I think Greg, I think

2080
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:32,920
Speaker 1: you put it well that.

2081
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:36,200
Speaker 2: When we were back at the office that O'Connell was

2082
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:37,920
Speaker 2: in his head a little bit by then because he

2083
01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:42,240
Speaker 2: had everyone, including us, the team of ATN kind of

2084
01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:46,000
Speaker 2: got sucked into the idea of what this defense that

2085
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:48,680
Speaker 2: was on the rise and the skill players at Jefferson

2086
01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 2: coming back, and then Dobbs what he brought to the

2087
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 2: picture that maybe in a wide open.

2088
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 1: NFC you can make something happen.

2089
01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:57,599
Speaker 2: But once Dobbs fell off, and then you turn into

2090
01:40:57,680 --> 01:40:59,640
Speaker 2: Mullins and then you turn into the and you just

2091
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:03,040
Speaker 2: get into that really dark place that that teams do

2092
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 2: when you're just churning through quarterbacks looking for an answer.

2093
01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:09,680
Speaker 2: So the Vikings, you know, it's it's sad, but at

2094
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:12,760
Speaker 2: least at least we'll always have the memories of two

2095
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:16,560
Speaker 2: two time failures team of at N. Uh you know,

2096
01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:23,080
Speaker 2: ful fool us once a fool us twice, Shame on us.

2097
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:25,040
Speaker 2: It will not happen a third time.

2098
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 1: Vikings.

2099
01:41:29,479 --> 01:41:32,920
Speaker 3: We promise you your time as team of at N

2100
01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:36,160
Speaker 3: is over. They're one in five in their last six.

2101
01:41:36,280 --> 01:41:39,680
Speaker 3: I think they're two and five since we chose them.

2102
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:41,519
Speaker 3: I could be wrong on the date. I'm pretty sure.

2103
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:42,040
Speaker 1: I think you're right.

2104
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:45,080
Speaker 4: They won the first game and then things started getting weird,

2105
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 4: And yeah, Mark, I know it's a tough blow for

2106
01:41:48,240 --> 01:41:54,520
Speaker 4: you especially, but like that, you know it's been disappointing.

2107
01:41:54,640 --> 01:41:58,800
Speaker 4: But Greg, what is the there is a pathway playoffs?

2108
01:41:59,240 --> 01:42:01,559
Speaker 3: They will not make the playoffs. I'm just gonna say

2109
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:04,200
Speaker 3: right here because I think there's many reasons why. But

2110
01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:08,479
Speaker 3: they need to beat the Lions. Lions, uh could be

2111
01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:14,439
Speaker 3: resting players. They need the Bears to beat the Packers

2112
01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:16,880
Speaker 3: because the Packers are now winning in are really doing this?

2113
01:42:17,640 --> 01:42:20,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. And they need the Cardinals to

2114
01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:22,840
Speaker 1: beat the Seahawks. That's gonna be tough.

2115
01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:25,240
Speaker 3: And then they need either the Panthers to beat the

2116
01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 3: Bucks or the Falcons to beat the Saints. So Tarico

2117
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:31,080
Speaker 3: was trying to talk it up as like, hey, you've

2118
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:34,040
Speaker 3: seen crazy, you know this actually isn't that difficult a

2119
01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:36,040
Speaker 3: path I'm like, what, I don't expect any of these

2120
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:36,759
Speaker 3: things to happen.

2121
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:39,120
Speaker 1: Stop it. How about to Rico and Collins are within

2122
01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:40,040
Speaker 1: the tuxes tonight.

2123
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:44,120
Speaker 4: I liked it like nice little I don't know why

2124
01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:46,479
Speaker 4: you tagged me as like anti tucks. I thought they

2125
01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:49,680
Speaker 4: looked you know, it was. It was memorable, as Keith

2126
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:51,559
Speaker 4: Hansas will say, oh yeah, they will look good shop.

2127
01:42:54,479 --> 01:42:57,200
Speaker 3: By the way, the Vikings defense started collapsing two weeks ago.

2128
01:42:57,280 --> 01:42:59,200
Speaker 3: This is their third straight pretty bad game. They've had

2129
01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:01,640
Speaker 3: injuries and stuff, but they've also been a little bit

2130
01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:05,160
Speaker 3: of a gimmicky defense in terms of just always sending

2131
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:08,400
Speaker 3: pressure in the zone behind that mayod good quarterbacks have

2132
01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:11,280
Speaker 3: maybe kind of figured out. It just feels like everything,

2133
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:14,479
Speaker 3: you know, just ended at the same time. Jake Browning

2134
01:43:14,600 --> 01:43:16,760
Speaker 3: kind of ended their season. I really feel that game

2135
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:18,720
Speaker 3: was the turning point for them.

2136
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:21,200
Speaker 4: Jake brown Oh yeah, they're up seventeen to three in

2137
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter, I think, but you know, yeah, I

2138
01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 4: think we should give a little credit if we're gonna

2139
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:29,080
Speaker 4: be killing Joe Barry most weeks, and it's deserved.

2140
01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:32,200
Speaker 1: The Packers defense has been switched. Cheese. You give him

2141
01:43:32,240 --> 01:43:34,800
Speaker 1: a little credit today. He shook up the rookie and

2142
01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:37,120
Speaker 1: so they you know, the Packers.

2143
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:39,320
Speaker 3: Here's the thing I've seen a couple of cornerbacks do

2144
01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:43,080
Speaker 3: without Alexander and without another one of their starters.

2145
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:45,719
Speaker 1: Right, So I think I put I put the Packers.

2146
01:43:46,640 --> 01:43:50,080
Speaker 2: The standard is higher because it's Green Bay, but I

2147
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:52,280
Speaker 2: put the Packers in a similar bucket to Houston where

2148
01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:56,280
Speaker 2: you got your quarterback. Like Love has established himself this

2149
01:43:56,439 --> 01:43:59,760
Speaker 2: year as certainly a guy who they bet on and

2150
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:04,040
Speaker 2: he's stuck with and he is now their established starter,

2151
01:44:04,160 --> 01:44:06,320
Speaker 2: and he could be a star in the league.

2152
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:09,160
Speaker 1: So even he's playing like a star, that's what I mean,

2153
01:44:09,240 --> 01:44:11,000
Speaker 1: like he could be all right, he could be a superstar.

2154
01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:12,920
Speaker 2: I mean he's he's put enough on tape where you

2155
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:15,880
Speaker 2: could see a ceiling for him that is, uh, you know,

2156
01:44:16,080 --> 01:44:18,599
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl level or perhaps even All Pro. Something really

2157
01:44:18,640 --> 01:44:22,679
Speaker 2: clicks in and and so regardless of how this season ends,

2158
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:25,200
Speaker 2: I would I would say this first post, Aaron Rodgers

2159
01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:27,439
Speaker 2: season is successful for that reason alone.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And like I think we learned a lot about

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Speaker 4: Matt Laflore because it was easy just to tag his

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Speaker 4: success or attach his success to Aaron Rodgers, and you

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Speaker 4: had to your it was your job. And it's essentially

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Speaker 4: like the reason that he was hired was to develop

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Speaker 4: a young quarterback like this. And you're also saddled with

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Speaker 4: Joe Berry's defense, and he's coached some really great games

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Speaker 4: amid all that in like, uh, I don't know, I'm

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Speaker 4: open tonight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like they they they've done a great job.

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Speaker 3: He has more yards and touchdowns that this season, Love

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Speaker 3: does than any Bears quarterback has ever had in the season,

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Speaker 3: which is just a little stick. But now he has

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Speaker 3: to play the Bears defense. It's a kind of a

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Speaker 3: perfect Week eighteen. Game reminds me exactly of Lions Packers

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Speaker 3: a year ago, with the Lions having the chance to

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Speaker 3: knock out the Packers. Now it's the rising Bears with

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Speaker 3: the chance to knock out the Packers. And that is

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Speaker 3: what that's a that's an early Is that an early

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Speaker 3: game next week? No, that's a four to twenty five game.

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Speaker 3: That's going to be the game people watch the most.

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Speaker 1: Anything else. Boys, it's New Year's Eve.

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Speaker 2: It's a quarter to midnight on the East coast, almost

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Speaker 2: nine o'clock here. We don't need to continue to talk

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Speaker 2: into microphones anything to put a.

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Speaker 1: Bow on things.

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Speaker 2: Tabulations wise, greg Or markin now, but we got to

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Speaker 2: talk the Sunday night announcement.

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Speaker 3: It is Bill's Dolphins. We're wrapping up week eighteen, or

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Speaker 3: it always made sense. Bill's Dolphins on Sunday night. And

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Speaker 3: then I think what was probably the number two choice

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Speaker 3: for this game is going to be Saturday night an

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Speaker 3: early playoff game Texans Colts. Loser goes home, winner makes

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Speaker 3: the playoffs. That's a spicy little Saturday night game too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll take it. We'll take it very good. Jay Stroud,

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Speaker 1: go go make a playoff rookie season, get in primetime

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Speaker 1: for the first time, and go in a playoff game

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Speaker 1: in that game. That's a nice little spot. Got Steelers

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Speaker 1: Ravens on Saturday too. M that's right, less exciting and to.

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Speaker 2: Our listeners, it is at the end of another year

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Speaker 2: of around the NFL, and we thank you for.

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Speaker 1: Hanging around. You've given us a great life and we

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Speaker 1: appreciate you. Know what. You know what we got it

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Speaker 1: We had hip hop Santa Eric.

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Speaker 2: We got something else with a little more bizaz, a

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Speaker 2: little more heat, a little more contemporary.

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Speaker 1: We have the rights to that song. I think it's

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Speaker 1: like seven hundred years old.

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Speaker 3: Okay, ooh, I thought you were going to play Flowers

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Speaker 3: by Miles.

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Speaker 2: Now that we do not have a right, but I'll

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Speaker 2: be having a nice night with Miley Cyrus and friends

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Speaker 2: and family, and I hope everyone else has a great

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Speaker 2: night and a great tomorrow in twenty twenty four. It's

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Speaker 2: gonna be a good one. Maybe this year will be

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Speaker 2: better than the last. Another durance.

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Speaker 10: I like that.

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Speaker 1: I love our listeners all right here. I guess I

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Speaker 1: said it, and they don't say it all for me.

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Speaker 1: I love you. I love you the most, very weird.

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Speaker 1: That's that's basically what my two young sons do to

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Speaker 1: each other, you know, but I do it the most.

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Speaker 2: It's like, all right, all right, thank you to everybody again,

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Speaker 2: and have a great beginning of twenty twenty four, and

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Speaker 2: we'll be back on Tuesday. Another funky week because of

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Speaker 2: the holidays, but the playoffs and week eighteen right around

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Speaker 2: the corner and will be there until then.

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Speaker 1: Heed the call, Happy New year. N DI

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Speaker 10: P.