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Speaker 1: I actually started that. I actually broke down and parked
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Speaker 1: it's time to tuck some cowboys and some Seahawks. I
Speaker 1: know y'all did a great job with it yesterday, getting
Speaker 1: everybody ready for this matchup. The rematch of the game
Speaker 1: in September, that doesn't really look like a rematch because
Speaker 1: it was a changed since that. You remember the play
Speaker 1: I was watching this, I remember the last night. You
Speaker 1: remember the play out of bounce to Ezekia Elliott they
Speaker 1: got called back. Yeah, I was gonna write about that today,
Speaker 1: the one where he would or Dak rolled was right,
Speaker 1: and Zeke kind of kept drifting, drifting, drifting and then
Speaker 1: went out bouncing hit but it was a touchdown that
Speaker 1: got called back. You remember, I didn't sure. I mean
Speaker 1: that was remember that play? It was one yard touch
Speaker 1: oh yeah, called back. Uh. He had another fumble that
Speaker 1: they lost, and I think the game was out of
Speaker 1: reach kind of at that point. It was about twenty
Speaker 1: four to six. Sure, I think Dak was picked off
Speaker 1: when a ball bounced off Michael Gallops and yeah, and
Speaker 1: one off of Flake charge. Yeah. Yeah, really wasn't a
Speaker 1: great and the game was out of reach. But they
Speaker 1: had the chances in that game. They just you know,
Speaker 1: as much as their offense was struggling at that point,
Speaker 1: I think they can look back and you know, the
Speaker 1: touchdown they gave up to Locket, I think their coverage
Speaker 1: was okay in that situation. So you know, there's some
Speaker 1: correctable stuff from week three. I'm looking back at my
Speaker 1: play by play on it, Cavan Frazier late on the
Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett. Yeah, yeah, it was a busted coverage. Busted coverage.
Speaker 1: They had two busted coverages. Yeah, I gave up two
Speaker 1: big plays. But I just I forgot about the Zeke
Speaker 1: play that went out of bounce should have been a touchdown.
Speaker 1: That was the one where I was like going, oh, well,
Speaker 1: oh that's right, that's right, that happened. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: but anyway, I mean, yeah, you're right, Rob, I think
Speaker 1: they had some opportunities. They're good, you knew played really
Speaker 1: well in that game, Sean Lee. Going back and watching
Speaker 1: that game, maybe maybe this is one of those things
Speaker 1: where they you know, they can't get to linebackers, you know,
Speaker 1: guards and sinners can't get the linebackers, and we see
Speaker 1: vander Esh and Smith and Lee and those guys run
Speaker 1: into the football stopping the run game and stuff like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that's kind of where I need to think of.
Speaker 1: This thing needs to go. I wonder if they're resting
Speaker 1: offensive lineman or those guys that are really hurt. I
Speaker 1: think they're really hurt because d Dwayne Brown and Jr.
Speaker 1: Sweezy haven't practiced yet this week. I don't think Sweezy's
Speaker 1: gonna play, and Fluker's listed as ye. I think they
Speaker 1: expect Flucker back. Yeah, but they've they've had to in
Speaker 1: the In the Arizona game, they had Aya Fetti, who
Speaker 1: started at right tackle in the game that these two
Speaker 1: teams met last time, he was the right tackle. He
Speaker 1: was playing right guard, and then and then ethan postic
Speaker 1: postic practice yesterday. I know he didn't practice the day
Speaker 1: before post anybody got there. I didn't see their injury
Speaker 1: report yesterday. It did not come with our emailed it
Speaker 1: with the Cowboy injury, Yeah, but it came later. I
Speaker 1: didn't see us if he practiced then, because I don't
Speaker 1: think he practiced the day before. He had like a
Speaker 1: foot or an ankle injury that he was dealing with.
Speaker 1: But he was the starter at left guard. They're trying
Speaker 1: to replace Sweezy who's got a foot injury. I believe
Speaker 1: is yeah, he's not. He's not on their injury okay
Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, so keep an eye on that. That
Speaker 1: could be. And I remember and the last time these
Speaker 1: two teams made Justin Britt the center didn't play right.
Speaker 1: Joey Hunt was the center from TCU. But Britt Britt
Speaker 1: is Brits. Okay, he's okay. So yeah, there's there's a
Speaker 1: little little shaken up going on with their offensive line
Speaker 1: right now. And Chris Carson did have a one hundred
Speaker 1: yards rushing against the Cowboys the first time or on
Speaker 1: a million carries, yes, hundred and two was it? Yep,
Speaker 1: it was. I've got the exact number. Hey, Cowboys did
Speaker 1: a great job in that game of going back and
Speaker 1: watching the run fits. I was talking about the linebackers
Speaker 1: and how and Tyron Crawford had a really good game.
Speaker 1: Tyron Crawford playing defensive tackle. Tycho Charlton was the starter
Speaker 1: at right defensive end this game. Crawford's gonna be back practice.
Speaker 1: I'm sure Micky's gonna tell us in the injury report.
Speaker 1: All those guys were limited yesterday. But I feel like
Speaker 1: that these guys are going to line up and play
Speaker 1: the Martins, the Smiths, the Crawfords, all those guys. Carson
Speaker 1: was thirty two for one h two. Yeah. Yeah. Questions
Speaker 1: to Rod and Arronelli yesterday were about how do you
Speaker 1: slow him down this time? And they did a pretty
Speaker 1: good job I did. I think his longest rush was
Speaker 1: for thirteen yards. Yeah, And I think they've only given up.
Speaker 1: They've had one one hundred yard two run one hundred
Speaker 1: yard rushers against them this season. I think they had
Speaker 1: to run thirty nine times to gain one hundred and
Speaker 1: thirteen yards as a team. But as you said yesterday,
Speaker 1: make that they kind of did what they wanted to do.
Speaker 1: They were persistent with it, Yeah, and it kept the
Speaker 1: Cowboys off the field. Yeah. And then they hit the
Speaker 1: two big plays ball game yep. And they got the
Speaker 1: two turnovers, you know, or the two they got two
Speaker 1: pass interceptions in a fumble recovery and they won that
Speaker 1: battle as well. So yeah, it was That's been their
Speaker 1: recipe for success all season really a lot of time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they have very We've talked about yesterday. These are two
Speaker 1: very evenly matched teams, and it could very well come
Speaker 1: down to how well your quarterback plays against it. I
Speaker 1: worry about what I worry about what their quarterback is.
Speaker 1: You capture him in the pocket and then you go
Speaker 1: over the top of him and now he's running you
Speaker 1: know where they had some of those. That's this was
Speaker 1: a game also too. Remember early in the game they
Speaker 1: had the terrible roughing the passer penalley against Tyrn Crawford
Speaker 1: for hitting for hitting. Uh but but they were able
Speaker 1: to get pressure, you know, they're able to get pressure
Speaker 1: that the Seahawks were struggling with their protection at the time,
Speaker 1: and they got some good hits on on Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: I just worry about that, Oh, Randy, Randy Gregory, he's free,
Speaker 1: he's over the and he goes over the top, you know,
Speaker 1: Wilson ducks and now he's running around and all that.
Speaker 1: You know, that loose play, that's the kind of stuff
Speaker 1: that you get. You know, most quarterbacks like Eli Manning
Speaker 1: get him in that situation, just crumbles into the ground.
Speaker 1: This guy kind of ducks and dodges and you know,
Speaker 1: bales out and you know those are the kinds of
Speaker 1: things you worry about playing this cat. You know. The
Speaker 1: weird thing with Russell Wilson, He's only completed two eighty passes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: running the ball, but he's thrown thirty five touchdown pass
Speaker 1: second in the league at eight point two percent touchdown
Speaker 1: passes to completions or attempts. I don't know how they
Speaker 1: which one it is, but that's amazing. So it's a
Speaker 1: lot of big plays. Obo is huge, flat like they're
Speaker 1: I mean, he's thrown for thirty four forty eight dacks,
Speaker 1: thrown for thirty eight eighty five. Dack's completed three hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty six to his two eighty. But his quarterback
Speaker 1: rating right now is third in the league at one
Speaker 1: ten point nine. He's only got seven interceptions against those
Speaker 1: thirty five touchdowns. And this the Seahawks have only only
Speaker 1: lost four fumbles this year, so just eleven giveaways on
Speaker 1: the entire season, so pretty efficient. They're plus fifteen on
Speaker 1: turnalways at lead the league in rushing too, if I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken, right, they have the most yards. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So that's kind of their recipe right now. That's what
Speaker 1: they The biggest problems that they had the first two
Speaker 1: weeks of the season is they couldn't protect, they couldn't run,
Speaker 1: and now they seem like that they've kind of righted
Speaker 1: the ship. They're they're like the Cowboys at four and
Speaker 1: five one time Cowboys at three and five, and you know,
Speaker 1: found their way along the you know, started the last
Speaker 1: three weeks. Carson has said this yesterday, He's got one
Speaker 1: hundred nineteen yards Russian last three weeks. You know, that's
Speaker 1: that's that's that's the recipe. Run the football, play action,
Speaker 1: get the quarterback on the move, let him make easy
Speaker 1: throws when he can make them. It's kind of funny
Speaker 1: they've they've basically, excuse me, rush for five hundred more
Speaker 1: yards and the Cowboys, and the Cowboys have thrown the
Speaker 1: ball five hundred more yards than they have. So there's
Speaker 1: ways to win games. It's not about slinging it around,
Speaker 1: you know, scoring forty points a game, or having uh,
Speaker 1: you know, forty completions or whatever. But if you play
Speaker 1: efficient football, and that's what you need to do in
Speaker 1: the playoffs to be able to win. They have gone
Speaker 1: back to what was their recipe for success when they
Speaker 1: were going to Super Bowls. The last couple of years
Speaker 1: they ranked around twentieth in the league and rushing yards, right,
Speaker 1: And now they're up to the top again. And they
Speaker 1: had a four year period there and two of those
Speaker 1: years they went to Super Bowls with Marshawn Lynch and
Speaker 1: they would be in the top three in the league
Speaker 1: and rushing all those years, right, And Pete Carroll and
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll made no bones about it coming into this season.
Speaker 1: I heard several interviews with him where he's like, we're
Speaker 1: gonna run the football. We're going to run the football.
Speaker 1: If you look at Daryl Bebel was the OC before
Speaker 1: and they got away from what, you know, what was
Speaker 1: great for them. And then you get Brian Schottenheimer. Will
Speaker 1: the name Schottenheimer will tell you and you know his
Speaker 1: DNA is his father's DNA was run the football, running
Speaker 1: how our running play physical, be that type of a team.
Speaker 1: And I think that's why Pete Carroll it took. It
Speaker 1: took Russell Wilson in this offense some time before they
Speaker 1: really got used to Brian Schottenheimer and the way he
Speaker 1: was calling games. But they're they're on track right now.
Speaker 1: Kansas City. I mean, they scored a lot of points
Speaker 1: against Kansas Cya, but I thought Kansas City and watching
Speaker 1: the game, did some pretty good things against Russell, keeping
Speaker 1: him in the pocket on some of those throws. I
Speaker 1: broke down one of the plays for Dallas Cowboys dot
Speaker 1: Com and how you play him, you know, you keep
Speaker 1: the rush wide, but affect the middle of the pocket,
Speaker 1: get his eye level down. You could see him kind
Speaker 1: of looking at the rush a little bit. You know,
Speaker 1: when he's when he's looking at the rush, he's not
Speaker 1: looking at those guys running open downfield. I think that's
Speaker 1: what the key for the Cowboys is to try and
Speaker 1: find a way to affect him in the pocket when
Speaker 1: he does throw the football and getting his eye level
Speaker 1: down make him have to deal with that and so
Speaker 1: he can't see Baldwin and lock It and more and
Speaker 1: those guys running down the field kind of like breeze,
Speaker 1: kind of like when you face back short quarterback, keeping
Speaker 1: him in the well and to your point about the
Speaker 1: rushing attack for Seattle styles make fights. I mean the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have been i think fifth in the league in
Speaker 1: rushing defense all season long, in the top five. And
Speaker 1: as as Marinelli said yesterday, you know they stubbed their
Speaker 1: toe against Indianapolis. Yeah, physically beat up. Yeah, just just
Speaker 1: couldn't control you know, front seven, Yeah, got controlled. And
Speaker 1: other than that, they've been solid, and I think it
Speaker 1: speaks a lot to you know, the overall team speed
Speaker 1: they have on defense. They've got a lot of guys
Speaker 1: that can float on the ball quickly, and they're getting
Speaker 1: production out of their tackles too. They are helping the
Speaker 1: linebackers make plays. We've talked about Antoine Woods this season
Speaker 1: a lot, Crawford when he's been in there, MALIEK. Collins
Speaker 1: when he's been healthy. It's been a team effort and
Speaker 1: it's going to be a challenge this week. Malie Collins
Speaker 1: didn't play the last time these two teams met. That's right,
Speaker 1: you know that that's gonna be a big factor there
Speaker 1: because he is a big body guy that they're going
Speaker 1: to have to deal with. And they're kind of a
Speaker 1: catch and steer and push team. They're not really going
Speaker 1: to come off and blow. You know, Indianapolis will come
Speaker 1: off the ball and get into and climb in and
Speaker 1: move you around. This bunch is a little bit more
Speaker 1: of a catch steer and then let the backs make
Speaker 1: the cuts off off those blocks. You know. I remember
Speaker 1: doing this when when the Cowboys played the Seahawks in September.
Speaker 1: Just comparing Russell Wilson and Dak Prescott. I mean, Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson is what the Cowboys are hoping Dak Prescott becomes, right, sure,
Speaker 1: because if you look at early in his career, he
Speaker 1: was okay, but they were winning because they played so
Speaker 1: so well defensively and they ran the football. And now
Speaker 1: like what is he in his seventh year? About five
Speaker 1: years in six years in suddenly he's become a lot
Speaker 1: more efficient throwing the ball. U and he can still
Speaker 1: beat you running the ball. So, uh yeah, I think
Speaker 1: you're exactly right. It's some would tell me he's run
Speaker 1: less than Dak. He has sixty seven carries this year,
Speaker 1: Dac has seventy five. It's pretty close. Yeah. And how
Speaker 1: many yards does Dak have? Do you have it in
Speaker 1: front of you? Yeah, he's rushed for three oh five
Speaker 1: and he's like three twenty or something like that. He's
Speaker 1: rushed for three seventy six okay, six touchdowns. But how
Speaker 1: about this, he's been sacked fifty one time exact. Oh no,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's the problem too. They that's what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you're looking at mirror teams because they both had issues.
Speaker 1: They both have issues. I mean, he got sacked six
Speaker 1: times against Arizona. Top three teams that have been sacked
Speaker 1: this season all are in the playoffs. On the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Houston is one of them. Sixty two league, Yeah, Deshaun Watson,
Speaker 1: and then you got Dak Prescott fifty four is at
Speaker 1: what fifty sixty six, and then Russell Wilson's at fifty one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's unusual. So but here's the deal with those guys
Speaker 1: is they're extend the exactly they're guys that want to
Speaker 1: extend plays, and they're so confident that they can get
Speaker 1: out of trouble that sometimes they can't. And and so
Speaker 1: instead of throwing the ball away, they're they're going to
Speaker 1: try to use their athletic ability to keep the play alive,
Speaker 1: and it catches up with him or the fields or
Speaker 1: the flip side Mick is what you get on the
Speaker 1: Beasley play thirty two. Yes, exactly. It's the Giants. That's
Speaker 1: that's the that's the highs and the lows of of
Speaker 1: having a quarterback who I mean, it's an advantage at
Speaker 1: the end of the day to have a quarterback with
Speaker 1: that type of mobility, or maybe with that you just
Speaker 1: should be in fourth downmode all the time. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: I can't take a sack here, might as well just
Speaker 1: throw it up and see what happens. You know. The
Speaker 1: other thing they're similar Ish Dack's been intercepted eight times.
Speaker 1: He's been intercepted seven times. Yeah, well that's and think
Speaker 1: about I bet at least three or four Dack's interceptions
Speaker 1: have been dropped passes into interceptions. Oh he had he
Speaker 1: had to pick six going against him the other day
Speaker 1: if he got to go to the right church. Nors
Speaker 1: Jenkins had that one right and they right now, Oh,
Speaker 1: no doubt, Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right. Sometimes you had
Speaker 1: to be lucky that way. It helps Patty's day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Patty's day. Like in hockey, sometimes you hit a post,
Speaker 1: sometimes you hit the post. Hey, let me ask you
Speaker 1: this though, is the biggest bigger concern than the past
Speaker 1: protection this week or the run defense um pass protection,
Speaker 1: because because we've seen it all years, we've seen it
Speaker 1: and look, I mean, what can Sulphilo do today? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a key, that's a question mark. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, Garrett said yesterday he's got a couple of
Speaker 1: days left to kind of get ready and he's moving
Speaker 1: around better, but he hasn't practiced this week. And Connor
Speaker 1: Williams has looked better at guard when he's gone in there.
Speaker 1: I think what you have to hope is he could
Speaker 1: at least dress and be the backup guy. That's kind
Speaker 1: of what I was thinking, because I'm okay with Connor
Speaker 1: Williams going in there, but yeah, if he can dress
Speaker 1: and be the backup guy. And now Redmond wasn't that bad. No,
Speaker 1: but you'd rather have the big body standing there. But
Speaker 1: to play Seattle, it might be better to have Connor
Speaker 1: Williams play because he can move. Because he can move
Speaker 1: and where Seattle. And then this is just me watching
Speaker 1: them play. I was watching Kansas City. I love to
Speaker 1: watch Kansas Cy's offense because of their quarterback. But where
Speaker 1: Kansas City had success was pulling the center, pulling the guard,
Speaker 1: pulling the tackle and kind of getting them to go
Speaker 1: one direction and then take the ball back the other,
Speaker 1: you know, counters and boots and things like that. They
Speaker 1: had some really good success running the ball that way,
Speaker 1: and maybe having Connor Williams in the game running on
Speaker 1: the edge or out in space might be better than
Speaker 1: having Sue Philo in there, you know, who's gonna be
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a boxy square guy. But
Speaker 1: they've won how many games, win seven games with Suephilo playing? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Seven of eight? Right, So I mean run game in
Speaker 1: particular took off. Yeah, yeah, I mean the protection too.
Speaker 1: A little bit better though, right, yeah, a little bit better,
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, it's been here and there at times.
Speaker 1: Some of it's been you know, Tyrn's been banged up,
Speaker 1: Zack's been banged up. Both those guys back practicing this week.
Speaker 1: That's good. They'll be ready to go. I think I'm
Speaker 1: glad this game's at home. Dealing with that crowd up there,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean you could you just watching the game,
Speaker 1: you could tell what a struggle it is to communicate
Speaker 1: with the offensive line. Well, they need a little docy
Speaker 1: dough on that one and make those guys struggle exactly
Speaker 1: that they can't get off on the snap exactly like
Speaker 1: it causes. Oh, you've got some rushers, you know, you've
Speaker 1: got rushers like they do. I mean, that's that's that's
Speaker 1: a pretty even that's a pretty even deal right there.
Speaker 1: They've you've got a dynamic rusher, they've got one two,
Speaker 1: you know. And maybe they're not going to be able
Speaker 1: to see the ball well when they throw it because
Speaker 1: there's going to be that big white background in the dance.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's going to stimulate the crowd all white? Yep,
Speaker 1: watch out. I don't know. Owls will be waving. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just need to be loud. And it's a Saturday night
Speaker 1: those old reunion rowdies. Man, it's just not baton rouge.
Speaker 1: It's not not baton rouge. If it was baton rouge,
Speaker 1: I'd be really happy about that. But no. Could you
Speaker 1: imagine seeing ninety thousand people jumping up and down in
Speaker 1: the state Absolutely, I think I bet it's never happened.
Speaker 1: They able to try to do the wave, but they
Speaker 1: won't jump up and down the crowd. The crowd has
Speaker 1: been better this year though now it has it has
Speaker 1: been better. And trust me, I could be critical. I'm
Speaker 1: from Dallas. We are front runners. You know, we need
Speaker 1: to suck it up a little bit better and know
Speaker 1: what's going on with the situational football, and you know,
Speaker 1: and be loud. I just told those guys on the
Speaker 1: fan when they were talking about the crowd, I said,
Speaker 1: you know, I can go take you back to the
Speaker 1: mid eighties at Texas Stadium, late eighties, and people acted like, okay,
Speaker 1: entertain me. And if you entertain me, I've been excited, sure,
Speaker 1: but I'm not excited before that. You're in those noon
Speaker 1: games at Texas Stadium. I was like, these people just
Speaker 1: come from church. Yeah, you're not wrong about that, mickey,
Speaker 1: But you know what. The one of Amari's touchdowns was
Speaker 1: it Philly, the overtime game at Philly. That's the loudest
Speaker 1: I've ever heard that building, That that place exploded. Well,
Speaker 1: that's what it needs. But that's what they put off football.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know this is my saying. It's it's
Speaker 1: Brian's right. I think it's been better. It's been allowed,
Speaker 1: it's been better. But you know, again, being from Dallas,
Speaker 1: we need to get off ore, you know what, and
Speaker 1: and and get and get a little bit more involved.
Speaker 1: You need to bring in that import that song from
Speaker 1: LSU to jump around. That's the jump around song. Well,
Speaker 1: everybody starts jumping Wisconsin, wasn't it? What's what's kind of Washington?
Speaker 1: Years of Washington? Does that spy? Okay? That Washington place? Tequila?
Speaker 1: That's not? And then the fans get into that. Let's
Speaker 1: buy House of Pain, jump around jump around early ninety
Speaker 1: thank you? Yeah, there you go. Well they need to
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Speaker 1: us today from Pasadena is Jim. You are first up
Speaker 1: on Talking Cowboys. Hello Jim, Well, happy here, guys, How
Speaker 1: are you good? Right? Good? Hey? I am concerned about
Speaker 1: the defense. I don't think we're tackling as well as
Speaker 1: we did since the Saints game, and I don't think
Speaker 1: we can afford to do that against this team. They
Speaker 1: have a powerful runner, they also have a second guy.
Speaker 1: It's a good scat back from Russell Wilson. He's hard
Speaker 1: to tackle. But the defense has to carry us through
Speaker 1: this game, and they've got to play better to do it.
Speaker 1: In my view, I think Crawford coming back with Melee
Speaker 1: Collins together is going to bring nice pressure up the
Speaker 1: middle and take shows. If you can flush Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: to his left, He's not near as effective throwing the ball,
Speaker 1: especially if the ball has been placed on the left hash.
Speaker 1: Those are my thoughts. Thanks for taking my call. I
Speaker 1: don't Yeah, I don't agree with him about the non
Speaker 1: tackling stuff. I mean it's bad. In the Indianapolis game,
Speaker 1: Mary Ellie mentioned that and he said he would have
Speaker 1: liked seen better tackling last week against the Giants. Other
Speaker 1: than that, he's been happy with it. Yeah, it's the backup,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a backup guys playing in the game,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean they held the guy to forty
Speaker 1: one yards. Other than the one that that one play
Speaker 1: that yeah, you watched it back here, you could write,
Speaker 1: you could write a dissertation, a doctorate paper on what
Speaker 1: went wrong on that one play. But I think overall, no,
Speaker 1: I mean, I this defense, the one thing where they've
Speaker 1: had some problems. This guy's like a Woozier. Hasn't tackled
Speaker 1: as well as you have, but the money because he's
Speaker 1: team and it's usually pretty good at tackling. If there's
Speaker 1: been some breakdowns and stuff like that, I've kind of
Speaker 1: felt like it's been him. But you know, Xavier Woods,
Speaker 1: I don't know what Xavier Woods. I was very critical
Speaker 1: of Xavier Woods this year and his gotta tackle better. Hell,
Speaker 1: he knocks people out, you know, good for him. I
Speaker 1: you know vander Esh how many tackles has he had?
Speaker 1: One hundred? And he says it's the Saints game, right,
Speaker 1: That's what you say? Do you get that feeling? I
Speaker 1: just don't want people to throw stuff out there and
Speaker 1: and not get challenged on that a little bit. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a bad yeah that you gotta
Speaker 1: that one. Nothing went right for that Colts game was
Speaker 1: really bad. And I'll go with him on that one
Speaker 1: Vanderesh won seventy six. Yeah, and Chitabez's third at eighty
Speaker 1: four sixty six solo. By the way, now, a lot
Speaker 1: of that the corners are tackling guys that catch passes.
Speaker 1: But he's had a couple run fits that he hasn't
Speaker 1: really sure in there. But he on the unlike on
Speaker 1: the Challes game, a lot of it on the Colts game,
Speaker 1: I credit the Colts offensive line and where okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a linebacker might miss a tackle, but that was
Speaker 1: because he was late getting there, because he was tangling
Speaker 1: with an offensive lineman and he wasn't in real good
Speaker 1: position to take the tackle. I'll say this, Jeff Heath
Speaker 1: has not tackled as well as he has in the past,
Speaker 1: even though he on the sixty nine or sixty eight
Speaker 1: yard run, he was the reason why the guy got
Speaker 1: to the ground. But but maybe, you know, bouncing off
Speaker 1: some guys and stuff. I just don't maybe I'm I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm watching these games. I don't even I
Speaker 1: don't feel like that they're they've really been bad. Did
Speaker 1: you see Heath in the locker room after that game Sunday? No,
Speaker 1: I didn't without a shirt on was it bruised up bad?
Speaker 1: He looked like he had been in a knife fight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the bruises all over his body. Yeah, I don't cut
Speaker 1: up too. Looked like he might have had wayl all right,
Speaker 1: I just fr fight. He got, he got he was
Speaker 1: in a heavyweight battle. There you go. You go back
Speaker 1: and you watch what um colts running back? What was
Speaker 1: his name? Marlin Marlin Mac linebackers just getting taken out
Speaker 1: of plays and go back and he watched the big
Speaker 1: Barkley run a week ago. It really was the same thing.
Speaker 1: There really was create a big lane created for him
Speaker 1: and then an angle from the safety where he had
Speaker 1: an open space to run. It wasn't necessarily a tackling issue, right,
Speaker 1: so you know, it's it's just about your your gaps,
Speaker 1: your runfits and all that. Like Mickey said, oh he
Speaker 1: might rank high on those most Missed Tackles. Who might Mac? Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a tough back. Yeah that's right, that's right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to make sure the Tackles Avoided list where Zeke works
Speaker 1: twenty ranks twenty ninth and Todd Gurley thirty. Just give
Speaker 1: him credit. He played really well on that day. You know,
Speaker 1: it's fine, No he did. That's what I'm saying. He
Speaker 1: might right rank pretty high. Yeah, that's right, all right,
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott versus Russell Wilson. I brought it up last
Speaker 1: segment about the Cowboys would love for Dak to become
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. And it was really Russell Wilson's fourth year
Speaker 1: in the league. What Dak will be going into next
Speaker 1: year is where he really stepped up as far as
Speaker 1: throwing them. Maybe they trusted anymore, maybe they it was
Speaker 1: by necessity to make up the team, whatever it was,
Speaker 1: but that's where his numbers went up as far as
Speaker 1: touchdowns go. But get this a comparison first three years
Speaker 1: in the NFL, Dak Prescott versus Russell Wilson. Okay, if
Speaker 1: we all know one loss percentage is about the same.
Speaker 1: Of course, Da Dak ranks second in the league behind
Speaker 1: Tom Brady as far as quarter as wins by a
Speaker 1: quarterback the last three years at thirty two and sixteen.
Speaker 1: But anyway, all right, you look at the numbers for
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson his first three years in the league, both
Speaker 1: throwing the ball and running the ball, he had eleven thousand,
Speaker 1: eight hundred and twenty seven yards Okay, Dak Prescott running
Speaker 1: the ball and throwing the ball eleven thousand, eight hundred
Speaker 1: twenty yards Yeah, Russell Wilson by seven yards. Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: had nine thousand, nine hundred fifty passing eighteen hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy seven rushing. Dak has ten thousand and eight seventy
Speaker 1: six passing, nine forty four rushing, so he's got half
Speaker 1: the number of rushing yards as what Russell Wilson does. Now.
Speaker 1: Touchdowns produced Russell Wilson first three years seventy two passing touchdowns,
Speaker 1: twenty rushing touchdowns for ninety two. Dak had sixty nine
Speaker 1: or has sixty nine touchdown passes seventy two for Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson eighteen rushing touchdowns two fewer than Russell Wilson for
Speaker 1: eighty seven, So the touchdowns are ninety two to eighty
Speaker 1: seven in favor of Russell Wilson. Interceptions Russell Wilson twenty six,
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott twenty five. It's almost identical the production of
Speaker 1: the two quarterbacks the first three years in the league. Now,
Speaker 1: the key for Dak is to be able to step
Speaker 1: up as a pocket passer and be able to win
Speaker 1: football games like he did against the New York Football Giants. Yeah, Sunday, well,
Speaker 1: win playoff games. I think Russell play well. That's the
Speaker 1: other Russell And that brings us to the next top
Speaker 1: is Dak talked about it yesterday. The legacy that any
Speaker 1: quarterback has in this specially in this town, is what
Speaker 1: you do in the postseason. That's what Russell Wilson has
Speaker 1: been able to do. Oh no, next to Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys. I think he's got eight
Speaker 1: of them playoff wins, right if you look at it,
Speaker 1: so yeah, it's you know. And then also the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: and a lot has to do with that with Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson as he played with a team with incredible defense, right,
Speaker 1: a super Bowl winning defense. How many playoff wins did
Speaker 1: he have his first three years, Russell Wilson, I can
Speaker 1: find that here. They got quick. I think they got
Speaker 1: bounced his first year. He went one and one his
Speaker 1: first year, and in twenty thirteen they won the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl three and ozh and then they lost in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl the next year two and one. Overall, he's
Speaker 1: eight and four in the postseason as a quarterback, and
Speaker 1: the last couple of times they've been in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: he's gone. He's won one and lost one each time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's I mean, he's building a Hall of Fame career.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a high comparison to make. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know from the stats perspective, but again, it comes
Speaker 1: down to winning games. Dak said that yesterday. You know,
Speaker 1: he agreed with the reporter's question that your quarterbacks defined
Speaker 1: by whether you win big in the playoffs, and yeah, um,
Speaker 1: but I always couched that a little bit because there's
Speaker 1: a lot of great quarterbacks in this league that never
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl and some that never really got
Speaker 1: that close. You know, there's there's no bigger team game
Speaker 1: in sports than football. There's none. I mean, I can't
Speaker 1: make an argument for another one because you you rely.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got guys that don't play one side
Speaker 1: of the football, and so I don't know, but those
Speaker 1: that's interesting. The stats are interesting, and I think you
Speaker 1: make a good point, Bill, and that that's what the
Speaker 1: Cowboys feel about him. It's the time on task that
Speaker 1: he's had already. They've invested all his time in him,
Speaker 1: and he's gotten They feel like he's gotten better, he's
Speaker 1: grown the intangibles. Some of the things he did the
Speaker 1: other day. I haven't seen throws like that from him before. Sure,
Speaker 1: they just think he's gonna keep getting better, you know. Now,
Speaker 1: whether he can rise to that level of Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: we'll see. And then you know, they both came into
Speaker 1: the league starting games from day one, so they I mean,
Speaker 1: he's had Prescott obviously has not missed a game, and
Speaker 1: he started forty eight games in three years, and Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson has started every game in his career so far.
Speaker 1: I was just looking down to periscope. Somebody asked, why
Speaker 1: would we compare these quarterbacks through different quarterbacks? Are they
Speaker 1: different quarterbacks? Not really, no, I mean, but they come.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just I kind of consider them. The
Speaker 1: size is different, but are the same type of quarterbacks?
Speaker 1: I you know, I just looked down and again, these
Speaker 1: are people listening to our show. We just talked about
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that can extend plays. Yeah, I mean that they
Speaker 1: both can do that, you know, And and Cowboys have
Speaker 1: faced other guys like that this season. You know that
Speaker 1: Shaun Watson, Andrew Luck, Cam Newton, Alex Smith. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of Mariota all right, Mariota. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: guys in the league that have done that. Yeah, so no,
Speaker 1: I kind of think they're kind of the same guy
Speaker 1: and even but I mean, you're not the same angibles too,
Speaker 1: as far as leadership goes that sort of thing. Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson the third round pick, Dak Prescott a fourth round pick,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, I mean it was a was a good
Speaker 1: college quarterback. It was got consideration, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's had he's had a great career. I think there
Speaker 1: are very similar quarterbacks. I'm an interesting I'm just kind
Speaker 1: of looking at him and saying, no, this is people
Speaker 1: here saying, why are you comparing him? They're not the
Speaker 1: same quarterback. I don't know. I respect opinion, but I
Speaker 1: don't know how. But I'm just on our show and they're, yeah,
Speaker 1: wondering why we're talking about it. But I think they
Speaker 1: are the same quarterback. I don't know how you read
Speaker 1: off those stats. And now, no, I don't say they're similar.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, people saying that Dack's not as accurate
Speaker 1: at this point in his career. What's interesting is the
Speaker 1: stats say that he is accurate. Yeah, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: but we do see the miss throws. You know, well
Speaker 1: every quarterback has throws. You just don't see the other quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: You don't see everything from the other quarterback. Right, He's
Speaker 1: he's completed sixty seven point seven percent of his passes.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers completed sixty two point three this year, Tom
Speaker 1: Brady sixty five eight. Russell Wilson in his career is
Speaker 1: sixty four point two percent. Yeah, and Dak's over sixty.
Speaker 1: I just looked at it. The highest that Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: has been in twenty fifteen, he completed sixty eight percent
Speaker 1: of his passes. But you look at him last year
Speaker 1: it was sixty one percent, and that was a product
Speaker 1: of what he had around last year. He was as
Speaker 1: we saw in that game Christmas Eve last year, right,
Speaker 1: I mean the reason the Seahawks basically won that game
Speaker 1: was because of Russell Wilson. Absolutely absolutely game, you know.
Speaker 1: And yeah, he's sixty six point one percent for his career.
Speaker 1: Dak is Dak. Yeah. Yeah. So see that's why again
Speaker 1: I don't that's why I don't agree with him. He
Speaker 1: doesn't complete the ball down the field, and last week
Speaker 1: it was thirteen thirty two thirty. Got what the other
Speaker 1: touch down pass was the four touchdown passes were down
Speaker 1: the field. He could have had one to him already
Speaker 1: deep two Yeah, but every two of them, but every
Speaker 1: quarterback has that. Yeah. Pressure that was a bad I mean,
Speaker 1: that was a couple. He got stepped on one of them.
Speaker 1: I know I saw it. You know you're you're right,
Speaker 1: your third left guards playing and he gets driven back
Speaker 1: in and he brushes the plant leg of Dak. Dad
Speaker 1: can't really step in. Not making excuses for him, but
Speaker 1: Mary Cooper was open a couple of times. It was
Speaker 1: Those have been two huge plays and one of the
Speaker 1: one of the big differences, I think, and it's not
Speaker 1: big difference, but it doesn't see Russell Wilson his yards
Speaker 1: per attempt and uh Dak I believes it's seven point
Speaker 1: four for this year is what he wound up and
Speaker 1: uh Wilson, uh eight point one. And but Dak's first
Speaker 1: year he was right around eight yards per attempt, right,
Speaker 1: He was down last year to like six point eight,
Speaker 1: which was bad, which was bad. Yeah, and the credit
Speaker 1: he's back up this year. He split that in half
Speaker 1: at seven point four. Well, Russell Wilson in his career
Speaker 1: has hovered between seven point seven to eight point two.
Speaker 1: Last year when he did not have a good team
Speaker 1: around him, it was down to seven point two. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what happens with quarterbacks. A numbers go down when
Speaker 1: you don't have got a team around Now, you tell
Speaker 1: you don't block for a guy, you don't catch the
Speaker 1: ball for a guy. You know, you don't run the
Speaker 1: ball for a guy. His quarterbacks looked pretty ordinary, although
Speaker 1: he did have a career high thirty four touchdown matched
Speaker 1: his career high with thirty four touchdown passes last year.
Speaker 1: And so that's that's where you're getting at. Where where
Speaker 1: I think last Sunday was a great experience for Dak
Speaker 1: when they did not have in their game plan the
Speaker 1: run threat, and they had to win that game with
Speaker 1: him throwing the football. And that's at times, that's what
Speaker 1: the last couple of years what Seattle's had to go to.
Speaker 1: And that's why this year they were adamant with hiring
Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheimer. Sure he's get back to that power running game. Yep.
Speaker 1: And the last eight weeks we've seen a more consistent
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. Yes, yeah, And what changed? Wait, I'll follow
Speaker 1: what change? What do you mean? Wh why was he
Speaker 1: more consistent the last eight games. Yeah, go ahead, Yeah,
Speaker 1: something tell me some guy named Amari Cooper. Sure, uh
Speaker 1: tight ends that grew up. Throw to the back and
Speaker 1: throw to the back. Yeah, I mean it's amazing, all right.
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Speaker 1: throughout this Cowboys turning the season around the second half
Speaker 1: of the year. I think it's been about that long
Speaker 1: since Mickey has had his copy for the Jack Black read.
Speaker 1: I think that has been a big plus. So if
Speaker 1: you believe in jinxes or yeah superstitions, that one of
Speaker 1: the keys to the Cowboys success is the fact that
Speaker 1: Micky's had to wing it Jack Black weeks, which means
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Speaker 1: He's had his back against the wall every time at
Speaker 1: forty minutes after the show, they've got more Jack Black
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Speaker 1: wandered over there and grabbed a bottle or two. Sounds
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Speaker 1: got that who's got that locker right next to the
Speaker 1: shower area? That's we kind of hang out over there,
Speaker 1: Zach Martin, there you go, all right. You know where
Speaker 1: the super Bowl is going to be played? Atlanta. I've
Speaker 1: got my reservations for Atlanta. I just got notification last
Speaker 1: night that they have been approved. I'm gonna be in
Speaker 1: Atlanta one way or another, one way or another because
Speaker 1: the game is wondering where. That's right. Tony Romo makes
Speaker 1: it to a super Bowl this year, CBS, he might
Speaker 1: be well ahead of all of us. Then well good,
Speaker 1: we'll see what we're going to make an adjustment. If
Speaker 1: the Cowboys make it to Atlanta, I will be there
Speaker 1: for there for a longer stay as it is right now.
Speaker 1: I'm Tuesday through Monday. Oh, there you go. That's pretty
Speaker 1: long stay. Actually was at Atlanta's first time to host
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl when the Cowy five years got there
Speaker 1: ninety three. Yeah, I was there. You were there. I
Speaker 1: was there, yep, when the ticket started. Yes, that was
Speaker 1: the kind of the first week. That's it was. I was.
Speaker 1: I was actually a member of that team. I like then,
Speaker 1: I know you were too, I was, no, I was
Speaker 1: two months away. All right. Speaking of Atlanta, the reason
Speaker 1: I brought up Atlanta is because Adam is in Atlanta
Speaker 1: and next up on Talking Cowboys. Hey, guys, how are
Speaker 1: you doing this morning? Great? Good? Yeah, nice segue. I
Speaker 1: appreciate that. You bet that's Bill Jones, buddy. We have
Speaker 1: a professional Bob Jones with us ab Jones in Atlanta
Speaker 1: and a bhil I will agree you would be a
Speaker 1: great voice for Big Text. Thank you, sir. In my
Speaker 1: past life, I was an age waiting birthday. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: I used to travel state fairs and my location was
Speaker 1: right under Big Text. I heard. That's awesome. Um. Question
Speaker 1: I have for you guys, you know, looking at the
Speaker 1: last match up with these guys, I kind of looking
Speaker 1: at whole season. Um, yeah, our special teams hasn't been
Speaker 1: the best like in past years in a field of
Speaker 1: position was used and that that first matchup. What can
Speaker 1: we do on special teams? I mean, is it a
Speaker 1: personnel issues that we're not just you know, getting down
Speaker 1: the field tackling quicker and you know, getting better returns
Speaker 1: or is it just us in execution or scheme that
Speaker 1: it's a good question. Coach was talking about that, yes, yea,
Speaker 1: that they just haven't really created anything or you know,
Speaker 1: they just don't they don't have a lot of salty
Speaker 1: veterans on those coverage teams. Either they're flyers, don't that's
Speaker 1: a product of the young roster. Yeah, they do miss.
Speaker 1: They do miss. What he was talking about though, the
Speaker 1: coach was that the way, And I asked this question,
Speaker 1: you know, because we see these guys, these kickers consistently
Speaker 1: put the ball into the end zone, and you get
Speaker 1: to a point in time where you're you're running, okay, touchback,
Speaker 1: you're running touchback, You're running oh my gosh, they're bringing
Speaker 1: it out and you kind of catch yourself. You kind
Speaker 1: of catch yourself, Oh my gosh, I gotta play blocks.
Speaker 1: I've got to play. And I think that we don't
Speaker 1: have enough enough returns in the game anymore where people
Speaker 1: are are good enough reps on it. Yeah, you get
Speaker 1: enough reps because you can't practice it during the year speed.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna run down. I mean the only special
Speaker 1: teams coaches will kick the ball short just to get
Speaker 1: a look at some of their guys. But when you
Speaker 1: when you talk about okay, you have three kickoffs and
Speaker 1: or four kickoffs and three m R touchbacks, it's that
Speaker 1: one kickoff that all of a sudden you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: my gosh, we're not getting off blocks, we're not hustling
Speaker 1: down there. You know, we got oh, we got trapped.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it has to do with
Speaker 1: the way now that you're not allowed to cover. You know,
Speaker 1: they don't let you have a running start. You have
Speaker 1: to kind of start. They kick the ball, then you
Speaker 1: get the run, So you don't have that. You don't
Speaker 1: have that ability to go down there and attack the
Speaker 1: ball like they like they once did. Opponents have twenty
Speaker 1: five kickoff returns against the Cowboys this season. Cowboys have thirteen.
Speaker 1: Yeah the entire year. Yeah, now you do that, you
Speaker 1: put URMs out like, yeah, you put terms like that,
Speaker 1: wa ain't taking it? Yeah, see that's that's where that
Speaker 1: you know. And what Okay, where did they rank Mickey?
Speaker 1: He had the rankings, and from where they find it?
Speaker 1: Every one of those. It seems like every kickoff that
Speaker 1: people have brought back has ended up at the thirty
Speaker 1: three yard line or the thirty four yard line that
Speaker 1: they're they're averaging about extra ten yards per where the ball.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to me, that's something possession started. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it seems like that when they do have a
Speaker 1: kickoff return against him. You're it's like you're I can
Speaker 1: hold your breath, like, oh, you know, you're ready for
Speaker 1: that guy to go busting through there and watch watch
Speaker 1: them say that they're ranked fifth in the league. But
Speaker 1: it just appears though as it had been where and
Speaker 1: that's why you could see it. When we ask Garrett
Speaker 1: the question, he's like, hey, we're just not running. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a good answer. Yeah, he gave a great answer.
Speaker 1: He just basically he was I thought he was really
Speaker 1: honest about it. He's like, we have got to run,
Speaker 1: we have got to get through blocks, and we've got
Speaker 1: to get to the football. We cannot be hesitant running
Speaker 1: down there and need to be able to run the football. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: run to the ball, coach, that's what you said. You said,
Speaker 1: run to the foot, tackling him and tackling him hard.
Speaker 1: There we go. Yeah. Yeah, but that he was very
Speaker 1: he was very you know, I wasn't taken back by
Speaker 1: the question. He was very adamant that, hey, we're doing
Speaker 1: a horse bleep job of covering these kicks. So in
Speaker 1: kickoff return average, the Cowboys ranked twentieth. Okay, in their
Speaker 1: own their own return their own returns. On defense, they
Speaker 1: ranked thirty first. There you go. Hallelujah, I got one, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean it seems like to me, every time they're
Speaker 1: running the ball back, you're just like, I'm like, oh, damn,
Speaker 1: does it have an average starting position? I kick off?
Speaker 1: I don't think I've gotten there yet. I just found
Speaker 1: punts punt returned the Cowboys where thirty first, Yeah, there
Speaker 1: we go. And then defensively they're sixteenth, So yeah better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so kickoff returns thirty first, punt returns sixteenth, covering them. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: Tavon had one fair catch in his return last week. Now,
Speaker 1: the one time we had a punt return that actually
Speaker 1: worked out well was the Houston Games. Tavon brought it
Speaker 1: back to midfield. Really couldn't do it, you know, gave
Speaker 1: him a chance to go over to the games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. But this this special team's overall, and you
Speaker 1: could talk about the young guys and and all that,
Speaker 1: and I'm not busting on anybody for using that as
Speaker 1: a reason, but you need to somebody needs to make
Speaker 1: a damn play. Well, I mean, you have young guys, can't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you can't have the ball being at the third,
Speaker 1: you know, if but I would hit the ball in
Speaker 1: the end zone. I would argue, you've had young guys
Speaker 1: on special teams forever since the salary cap came in, sure,
Speaker 1: because that's how you fill out the back end of
Speaker 1: your roster. Yeah, you know, younger guys, draft pick maybe
Speaker 1: later round guys. You know. Yeah, your starters play less
Speaker 1: special teams than they did back in the day. There's
Speaker 1: a few starters out there. There's a few Jeff Heaths
Speaker 1: to the world. Ye Heath. Yeah, you know, there's a
Speaker 1: few like Joe Thomas. That's why he's here, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a veteran guy. But see, that's what that's why
Speaker 1: I worry. I worry about. Okay, if if in fact
Speaker 1: that we're you're not getting kicks, that's one less first
Speaker 1: down that teams are having to get, if you think
Speaker 1: about it. If they're if the balls and ended up
Speaker 1: at the thirty five yard line, that's you know, that's
Speaker 1: just fuel position right there. And they just haven't done
Speaker 1: a very good job with that. And again, coach was
Speaker 1: very Coach was adamant about that. And you're facing Tyler
Speaker 1: Lockett this week and he is a big play threat.
Speaker 1: But yeah, hope he kicks off seven times. That means
Speaker 1: you're really kicking their rears, you know. And if if
Speaker 1: he returns one of them back to mac, fine, but
Speaker 1: he's averaging twenty five point nine yards a kickoff return
Speaker 1: just five point seven on punt returns this year. You
Speaker 1: gotta kick it away from him on the punts. Don't
Speaker 1: let him, don't let him bring the ball back. You know.
Speaker 1: That's that. But people have been asking about the special teams,
Speaker 1: and then that was our callers question. He's absolutely right. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're talking about the reasons and everyone points to Amari Cooper.
Speaker 1: First off, is the reason for the turnaround at midseason?
Speaker 1: How much have you seen it when you study the
Speaker 1: offensive line? How big of an impact has the change
Speaker 1: in the offensive line coach made you think? Or oh, no,
Speaker 1: I think it's been good. I think it's been good.
Speaker 1: They've been they've been a more physical group up front.
Speaker 1: I think that's with you look at the way, you know,
Speaker 1: with the runner and the way that he finishes runs,
Speaker 1: and you know you're getting it's it's a far far
Speaker 1: different group than I and I'm trust me. I I'm
Speaker 1: one of those guys. Paul Alexander, I was like, oh, Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: but but you look at what Mark's come in and
Speaker 1: done and been able to accomplish so far. This is
Speaker 1: a totally looking different group, looking the way that they
Speaker 1: come off the football and the way they get into people. Well,
Speaker 1: Garrett says, not always perfect, but but that you could
Speaker 1: see you could see the difference and just the physicality
Speaker 1: which these guys playing. Now the holding calls and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, Now, some of that stuff is that's just
Speaker 1: technique work. That's Mark Colombo trying to say, Okay, hey,
Speaker 1: get your hands inside. You know, Tyrn Smith were right,
Speaker 1: you know those hands get outside. They're gonna call that
Speaker 1: on him every time because when he gets his hands
Speaker 1: outside on somebody, he just dominates them. It's like they
Speaker 1: can't even get off, you know. So they've they've you know,
Speaker 1: they he's done a nice job with a group that
Speaker 1: doesn't have their starting center, has kind of had some
Speaker 1: backups at left guard. You know, that's gonna say. They
Speaker 1: proved continuity has been much a real benefit for this
Speaker 1: unit for years. And I mean you go back to
Speaker 1: the start of training camp, I think Lyle Collins is
Speaker 1: the only one that started every game that from what
Speaker 1: you opened with and includes Travis Frederick before the illness
Speaker 1: popped up. So um yeah, I mean just kind of
Speaker 1: fighting through it. And it hadn't been perfect. Obviously. We
Speaker 1: talked about the sack numbers. They're high, but you know,
Speaker 1: you got your leading rusher in the league, and they're
Speaker 1: still doing what they want to do. First on offense,
Speaker 1: and a lot of that's the offensive line. So if
Speaker 1: I'm reading this kickoff analysis, right, I never knew this
Speaker 1: was here. Myers kicked off seventy seven times. They've returned
Speaker 1: twenty five and it says here opponent returns over twenty
Speaker 1: yards twenty three and the Cowboys have nine. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go. Run yeah, run faster, run fast, Yeah,
Speaker 1: run faster. Don't be breaking down, just what you need.
Speaker 1: Bill Bates going back. I think it has something to
Speaker 1: do with the way they allow you to cover, and
Speaker 1: I think it's also the fact that you get into
Speaker 1: a rhythm that end zone, end zone, end zone. Oh eight,
Speaker 1: got a cover and then now the balls the thirty two.
Speaker 1: I think one day they'll just throw it out. Does
Speaker 1: not have it, No, I think they'll always have the
Speaker 1: kickoff return. Yeah, because people it's a chance to it's
Speaker 1: it's your chance to maybe win a game with limited time.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe you could throw the ball. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't take an element out. Yeah, what happens. If
Speaker 1: you want to see what the XFL does, Yeah, what
Speaker 1: Vince McMahon does. Maybe the XFL will set the trend
Speaker 1: for what they do for going forward. Don't tell them
Speaker 1: what the number one. They used to have like a
Speaker 1: steal the bacon thing at the beginning of the game.
Speaker 1: And yeah, the very first game, a guy separated his shoulder. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like one of the guys went in for the ball
Speaker 1: and you gotta he got a separated shoulder. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then they steal the bacon. Yeah. They put the ball
Speaker 1: in the middle, in the middle of the field, and
Speaker 1: some guys just run at the ball and whoever gets
Speaker 1: the ball, it's like dodgeball, you know, when you go
Speaker 1: to the middle, you try and get the ball. That's
Speaker 1: kind of what they had, a dodgeball rule. Whoever recovers
Speaker 1: it gets the ball gets possession of flipping a coin.
Speaker 1: And they did that on each possession or just beginning
Speaker 1: the beginning of the game, the very first the very
Speaker 1: first game, a guy separated shoulder is that. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: it's a pretty tricked up league and he's coming soon
Speaker 1: to a global live park near you next year. Did
Speaker 1: you play dodgeball in elementary school? Yeah? Kids playing now
Speaker 1: trampolines and you had to run to get to the
Speaker 1: ball first. Yeah. Yeah, my friends had to go up
Speaker 1: against each other and I got there just before he
Speaker 1: did it, and he tripped on the ball, his head
Speaker 1: on the ground. It was knocked himself. I've seen some
Speaker 1: massive collisions playing dodgeball. And it funny how Bicky tard
Speaker 1: that story around. Bake it sound like the other kid
Speaker 1: did that, But hey, that Nike was the one my fall.
Speaker 1: He was the one who actually on the ball faster.
Speaker 1: Yeahs on like tyle floor or whatever it was. It outside.
Speaker 1: Hedn't playing a gym for Mickey's men. Somehow we brought
Speaker 1: the show that minute. We had a wreck room. We
Speaker 1: didn't have a gym in elementary school. Keep going. That's it.
Speaker 1: That's the end of the store. Year. Was it what year? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like nineteen sixty early sixties. Yeah, Well the cowboys are
Speaker 1: in existence, then so's they're trying trying to get in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Welcome to you off the tracks. Yeah, now,
Speaker 1: I bet I was in Junior High by time they
Speaker 1: got in the playoffs. Did we do this on this show?
Speaker 1: Pick who we think is gonna be in the super Bowl?
Speaker 1: Yeah we did. You wrote them all down. I had
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Minnesota. That shows you what I know. No, No,
Speaker 1: I'm talking after the rig like this week, like reracket
Speaker 1: play tomorrow, right, I don't we have a show tomrow? Yeah,
Speaker 1: yes we do. You want to do that tomorrow from
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season. Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 1: I picked Jacksonville in Minnesota. So that's a big two
Speaker 1: els for me. Let's see if I get it written
Speaker 1: down in here, I think we had all the playoff
Speaker 1: teams I had. I know I had. Well, if I
Speaker 1: did the same on this show that I did on CBS,
Speaker 1: I had New England and Green Bay in the Super Bow,
Speaker 1: England beating Green Bay. Believe I had the Saints and
Speaker 1: Steelers don't. Yeah you did? You did? I had New
Speaker 1: England in Minnesota. Yeah you wrote that down one day, Bill,
Speaker 1: So we all were wrong. Yeah, I Saints still have
Speaker 1: a chance, Yeah, Steelers don't. Well in half Jacksonville and
Speaker 1: Minnesota have a chance for good draft picks. Maybe yeah,
Speaker 1: well not Minnesota're kind of picking in the middle of
Speaker 1: the draft, who did you have, Rob Pats and Vikings.
Speaker 1: I want to see who we had as division winners.
Speaker 1: I think you need to find that, Bill. I think
Speaker 1: that'll be what I'd do. Then that twenty four hours,
Speaker 1: try to figure out what we picked that would be
Speaker 1: good Cowboys ten and six, we went by division two.
Speaker 1: We picked division champs. Yeah right, I got picked Philly.
Speaker 1: I think I did. I think I picked Dallas. I
Speaker 1: guess because I picked the eleven five. I picked Dallas.
Speaker 1: Nine and seven, no playoffs. I think it's what I did.
Speaker 1: You had ten and six, What do you have? I
Speaker 1: had nine and seven? I think jump around? Can't set
Speaker 1: up to the stadium called Corey. Can we steal that
Speaker 1: from the college game for Saturday night? Why not? Hand Man?
Speaker 1: That is that is good and it happens in the
Speaker 1: end zone at LSU. So you've got to get the
Speaker 1: people above the bunkers in the first level to start
Speaker 1: jumping up and down. There you go, that'd be good.
Speaker 1: I like that. Make sure you where you're white, see
Speaker 1: your rows jumping up and down, and I'd be Mickey
Speaker 1: can lead it. Yeah, I would let me go up
Speaker 1: there on top of the bunker. Right, we're putting on
Speaker 1: top of the kettle. Turn the kettle over and have
Speaker 1: it jumping up and down on the kettle. You could
Speaker 1: be in the kettle and if I jumped me all
Speaker 1: you'll see it with my head to see the hand
Speaker 1: to be like mickey, do it. Let's do it. There
Speaker 1: you go, all right, all right, all right, we'll talk
Speaker 1: at you tomorrow. So yeah. This has been a production
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