WEBVTT - Jesus is King?

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<v Speaker 5>a deal by my mama house and a brand new car,

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<v Speaker 5>myself a crib pay all the bills. She never had

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<v Speaker 5>to work to live. She never had to work to

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<v Speaker 5>live all I ever wanted was a break, never wanted

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<v Speaker 5>a hand out.

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<v Speaker 6>I keep my head up.

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<v Speaker 4>I sweat.

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<v Speaker 5>I hate asking for a favor, even though I need help.

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<v Speaker 5>My God, it's me now, Mama race fol kids on

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<v Speaker 5>her own, two baby.

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<v Speaker 3>Daddies both welcome back to good mom's bad choices.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Erica and I'm Mila.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's Wednesday, bitches, Happy hump Day, Happy hump Day.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope somebody is getting humped tonight or this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Me too.

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<v Speaker 4>Speaking of humping, I was reading one of Beileed Jay's.

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<v Speaker 2>Posts and she was just saying that she sometimes she's

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<v Speaker 2>feeling like she wants really deep connections sexually, sometimes she

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<v Speaker 2>just wants like very.

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<v Speaker 4>Surface day physical connections.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, that's so interesting, because like we

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<v Speaker 2>actually really do go through seasons, you know, like sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>I want to have deep spiritual sex and sometimes it

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<v Speaker 2>could just be like a casual encounter. And that's fine too,

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<v Speaker 2>but sometimes I think you need different things.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree, because there was a time in a season

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<v Speaker 3>where all I really wanted was to have really.

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<v Speaker 1>What maybe say something go lay down.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to, but I have to told you, I

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<v Speaker 3>have to finish and then I'll be in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, please go lay down. She's so tired.

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<v Speaker 3>I know she's she's literally staring, like hanging on for

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<v Speaker 3>dear life as I'm talking about my sexual seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, go it there, Okay, good girl.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a point in like my entry into singleness

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<v Speaker 3>where I really just wanted to have like aggressive, disrespectful sex,

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<v Speaker 3>honestly and now, and that's really all I wanted. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I noticed that with every person that I had sex with,

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<v Speaker 3>that that's what I wanted, to the point where I

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<v Speaker 3>almost felt bad about it, Like I was like, what

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<v Speaker 3>does this say about me?

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<v Speaker 1>What's what's happening to me?

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<v Speaker 3>But and then like now I'm in a place where

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<v Speaker 3>like I still want that, but I like also need variation.

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<v Speaker 3>Then there's times where like all I want to do

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<v Speaker 3>is be like cuddled and romantic, and there's times where

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't even want to have sex, Like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't even feel like being touched. And yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 3>you have to like honor where you're at and try

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<v Speaker 3>not to judge yourself, because I definitely did.

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<v Speaker 1>And now looking back, I'm like, why.

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<v Speaker 2>Just do it, Just be in it, just do what

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<v Speaker 2>she fulfills you. In that moment, maybe explore why. But

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes it's just what you want, some weird, freaky, kinky

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<v Speaker 2>casual shit, some real deep, soul depth shit. I just

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<v Speaker 2>thought that was a cool subject. I hadn't thought about

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<v Speaker 2>it in that like, it's going to change your appetite

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<v Speaker 2>for and your needs are going to change. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think we've been taught to shame the part of us

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<v Speaker 2>that's like lusting, lusty and wanting just kinky casual sex.

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<v Speaker 4>But that is just a.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of the human nature. Sometimes it's what you need.

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<v Speaker 2>You do yourself a service, denying yourself. I feel like, anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>that's all because we said happy hump Day, we can

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<v Speaker 2>real deep already.

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<v Speaker 1>I can deep, bitch. I'm tired, Like I really, you

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<v Speaker 1>aren't getting deep at nine thirty pm.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what early?

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<v Speaker 1>Nine thirty isn't I thirty?

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<v Speaker 4>It feels much later, I know, but like.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, my daughter's awake.

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<v Speaker 2>God damn it.

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<v Speaker 4>I know I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Really Yeah, God, honestly, the school shit's kicking my ass.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm tired, bitch. I'm tired as fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the club.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I I've been like this morning. I woke up

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<v Speaker 3>at like six am, to try to exert what I

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<v Speaker 3>did well. I woke up at six, but I actually

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<v Speaker 3>didn't get out of bed till six thirty to try

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<v Speaker 3>to exercise. I'm like, my moms do this shit. They

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<v Speaker 3>wake up earliest buck and they work out or like

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<v Speaker 3>drink their coffee and like do things.

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<v Speaker 1>Early, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, I'm literally waking up to wake her

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<v Speaker 3>up to get together, to get her together, to try

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<v Speaker 3>to get me together, to get her there, to get

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<v Speaker 3>me here, to barely get shit done. I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe if I started waking up earlier, I just have

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<v Speaker 3>to make it a habit. I know once I do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I remember waking up around six am for a

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<v Speaker 3>while and it was fine. It's just it's like working

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<v Speaker 3>out and also not going to bed at two am.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the way I look dropping off londing to

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<v Speaker 2>school compared to the other moms. When I pick up,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel I have to really step my game up

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<v Speaker 2>because in the morning it's so I just literally roll out.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I'm just wearing a hood and like.

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<v Speaker 1>What are the other moms are like.

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<v Speaker 4>Stylish full dress?

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<v Speaker 1>Really, I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Most of my moms at her school are in like

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<v Speaker 3>workout gear. And I'm like, bitch, are you really going

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<v Speaker 3>to work out or you just able to work out

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<v Speaker 3>gear on? Because I know I'm wearing workout gear and

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<v Speaker 3>a bitch is not work it out well.

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<v Speaker 4>Workout gear is also La fashions.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just comfortable. Yeah, but that's like people people were

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<v Speaker 3>to work too.

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<v Speaker 4>No I think in La No, I know, we'll hang

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<v Speaker 4>out and work out gear. No workout happening, No, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>Because when I'm when anyone comes from New York, they're like,

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<v Speaker 3>you guys are so casual, wet, like we're like spandex.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like at four pm, like, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Almost if someone's like wearing a casual business business casually?

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<v Speaker 4>Like where the fuck do you work? Where are you going? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, come.

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<v Speaker 4>My life's super cash.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah we ro that week.

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<v Speaker 7>Girl.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just gonna make us more tired. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go to bed after this so tired.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 6>Sorry, guys, this is probably not id for anyone's listening

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<v Speaker 6>to this in the morning.

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<v Speaker 4>This is terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Get up, we got, we got come on, Like these

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<v Speaker 2>bitches are yawning on the podcast. Nobody wrote that in

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<v Speaker 2>the review We're up and we're pumped and we're ready

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<v Speaker 2>to go.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, baby poop and his diaper, guys, baby Jack Jack.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So how was your weekend?

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<v Speaker 3>I saw you went to Sunday service, Kanye West Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>I did go to Kanye West Sunday Service, you flake, dummy.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, I did want to go. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>I had priority.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was inviting my friends and like, you want

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<v Speaker 2>to have a Sunday service, and they're like church.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like, no, bitch, Kanye, no, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 4>to church.

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<v Speaker 1>It is church.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but I didn't realize it was church because

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<v Speaker 2>Zaia actually shout out to Zaya.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, Zia's if you listen to our song that opened

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<v Speaker 3>this episode, that is Zya Belle. She's bomb and also

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<v Speaker 3>she's a boy. Remember at Sunday Service. Sunday Service superbomb.

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<v Speaker 4>She gotta just go check that out, Ziabelle.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone in that choir is fucking insanely talented. I heard

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<v Speaker 3>like when you were posting and like Ashley was posting,

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<v Speaker 3>it sounded amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>It does sound really good. The aesthetic was really beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all like fresh flowers and shrubbery and that orb

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<v Speaker 2>that or the orb in the ceiling with this light

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<v Speaker 2>ultra light beam ultimately, is that what that was? You

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<v Speaker 2>know it's not an ultra light beame. It was really beautiful,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know what, I actually, I'm going to keep

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<v Speaker 2>it all the way one hundred. I felt really guilty

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<v Speaker 2>about all my anti religious remark rhetoric rhetoric because I

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<v Speaker 2>do get beside myself with the anti religion, and I

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I know I keep saying it. But in

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<v Speaker 2>the eighth grade, I got very Christian.

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<v Speaker 4>I did was back in nineteen ninety eight, I believe this.

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<v Speaker 2>Two thousand and three, Yeah, you're right, I'm sorry two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and four, maybe now. Two thousand and three, I

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<v Speaker 2>was super into church and I was in the youth group.

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<v Speaker 2>We were like leading youth, fucking youth services. I went

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<v Speaker 2>to winter Camp Church winter camp and the music was

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<v Speaker 2>the part that I could get lost in and unexpectedly

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't really anything. I was signing up for this part.

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<v Speaker 2>But there was a pastor at Sunday service. There was

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<v Speaker 2>two and they had they were both men.

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<v Speaker 4>They were both men. I'm from Atlanta, one was from Compton.

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<v Speaker 4>And they preached a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>They did some word and it was it spoke to me,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was kidding, what was what was like the

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<v Speaker 3>theme of well, what service.

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<v Speaker 4>I've heard a lot of things, but specifically what I

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<v Speaker 4>remember was don't be burnished on fire?

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<v Speaker 1>It was on fire? Yeah, I think it's fine. Right?

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<v Speaker 4>Wait?

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<v Speaker 2>Was oh, basically like, you'll fall and you'll get back

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<v Speaker 2>up again, and you'll fall and you'll get back up again,

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<v Speaker 2>and you'll fall again. But Jesus always forgives. He's constantly forgiving.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't care about yesterday, I doesn't care about tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>But right now, as long as you're getting back up again,

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<v Speaker 2>getting back up again, then God is merciful, and then

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<v Speaker 2>He's always forgiving you. And I immediately felt like it

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<v Speaker 2>was speaking to me because I was just feeling like, fuck,

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<v Speaker 2>all this talking and I'm just scratching the surface of

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<v Speaker 2>all the shit I have to dig through, all the

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<v Speaker 2>like programming that I've experienced, all the the way I

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<v Speaker 2>all the things I how I react to things emotionally

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<v Speaker 2>body because that's what I'm used.

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<v Speaker 7>To, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just feeling like, when you know, sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>You just be doing a lot of the same shit

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<v Speaker 2>because that's what you're used to doing. And I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>it just spoke to me like you'll fall and you'll

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<v Speaker 2>get back up again, and every time he's forgiving and

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<v Speaker 2>forgiving and forgiving. And that's how gentle you have to

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<v Speaker 2>be with yourself, you know what I mean. And we

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<v Speaker 2>forget that. We're so hard on ourselves, we're so harsh

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<v Speaker 2>on our expectations of ourselfs, not realizing like we're human.

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<v Speaker 4>So that was a pretty powerful message. The music was powerful.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just the energy was really it was really dynamic,

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<v Speaker 2>and you felt that shit, You felt the presence of

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<v Speaker 2>God and you felt like everybody in the room is

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<v Speaker 2>feeling it. And I always say this, like I'm not religious,

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<v Speaker 2>but I feel like when any group of people puts

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<v Speaker 2>their intentions and their vulnerability and all to worship one

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<v Speaker 2>thing or into one room and inevitably going to feel

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<v Speaker 2>it when you're when you're going to seek, When you

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<v Speaker 2>go seeking message, no matter how it's delivered to you

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<v Speaker 2>from a stranger at a church, from a pastor from

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<v Speaker 2>a conversation, you're going to if you're looking, you'll and

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<v Speaker 2>you're seeking, you're going to find the message that you

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<v Speaker 2>need to hear at that time. So I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>if that's in church, if that's in you know, SRF

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever wherever you go, that if you're open to

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<v Speaker 2>finding the message that's in everyday life, then you'll be

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<v Speaker 2>able to receive.

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<v Speaker 3>I think really at the root of religion, like before

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<v Speaker 3>it became a means to control and you know, influence sway,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's really what it was. Like that's why

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<v Speaker 3>that's how they were able to package it in a way,

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<v Speaker 3>because we do we feel that whether we feel that

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<v Speaker 3>connection to one another to like, you know, a deeper

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<v Speaker 3>existence than just us, but also this this.

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<v Speaker 1>Like primal feel like.

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<v Speaker 4>Connecting to source.

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<v Speaker 1>Right and the need to feel.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, open enough to charge up from it,

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<v Speaker 2>to be filled up from the word, filled up from

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, the gospel.

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<v Speaker 4>Like there's all these like words that we were taught.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it was did he did Kanye Like do you

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<v Speaker 1>say anything? Or did he do music? Or did him

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<v Speaker 1>or what was he do?

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<v Speaker 4>He was there?

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<v Speaker 2>Does he lead it still or is it like no,

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<v Speaker 2>not lead it, but but he leads it at the

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<v Speaker 2>person in the center like leading the choir is another

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<v Speaker 2>man who talks throughout too.

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<v Speaker 4>And you and was like, you know, it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 4>what you did last night.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you smoked some stuff, I know, but maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>drank some stuff you shouldn't. Maybe you late, you woke

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<v Speaker 2>up with somebody didn't want to wake up with. No

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<v Speaker 2>matter what you've done last night, whatever you did yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>God doesn't care.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't matter. Today is what matters.

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<v Speaker 2>You're loved, you know, like, and I think people we

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<v Speaker 2>all need to hear that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, he was kind of off to the side.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he does like those you know, the buttons

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<v Speaker 2>the mixtape, like you know, and.

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<v Speaker 4>Then he got on he got on the mic.

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<v Speaker 2>He performed a lot of some of the songs from

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus's King you know that chick fil a song which

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<v Speaker 2>you would not stop singing after it.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't really.

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<v Speaker 1>Listened to his album.

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<v Speaker 3>I've listened to like maybe like the beginning of it,

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<v Speaker 3>because I'd like to listen to albums in their sequence.

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<v Speaker 1>And I started playing it and the like I think,

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<v Speaker 1>I like, I don't know what happened. I got distracted or.

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<v Speaker 3>Something, but when I heard him, he's he's an insanely

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<v Speaker 3>he's amazing. Like what I heard, I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he's always he's just so incredibly talented and unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 3>like we get bogged down by his views and all

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<v Speaker 3>that other shit, but you know, being able to put

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<v Speaker 3>that aside and like see, like what he There's one

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<v Speaker 3>thing you can say about Kanye West is that he

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<v Speaker 3>is able to rise and rise and rise and rise

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<v Speaker 3>again and reinvent and inspire and build and his vision

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<v Speaker 3>he is.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a genius in so many ways.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the annoyance for me is like the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that he always feels the need to have to like

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<v Speaker 3>get everyone's.

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<v Speaker 1>Approval on that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think maybe like it seems like he's I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't matter. The point is it is like I

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<v Speaker 3>think what.

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<v Speaker 1>He's doing is amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>A narcissist, there's that yes, Is that what you're gonna say?

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<v Speaker 1>No? No, no, no. I was just saying like, well, well,

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<v Speaker 1>part of it was this.

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<v Speaker 3>That is like I thought, I feel like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he's always needs to be validated as this genius.

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<v Speaker 1>He needs everyone to.

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<v Speaker 3>Saporate where it's like, dude, you we know right, you know, yes, baby,

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<v Speaker 3>you know where they are.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get him. I don't know what do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Just open them? Was that door?

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<v Speaker 2>But a part of feels like part of me feels

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<v Speaker 2>like it's low key his persona at this point, Like

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<v Speaker 2>even while I was there, he was performing church on

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday or whatever, and he's like, this is the greatest

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<v Speaker 2>song ever rap song ever made in history.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just how I feel. I'm like, Okay, Kanye, sure, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>You say, you know, I mean, he's still Kanye.

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<v Speaker 4>He is still Kanye.

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<v Speaker 6>But that's what I'm saying, Like that's almost like branding

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<v Speaker 6>a genius, like he's just turned you know, but that's

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<v Speaker 6>actually who he is and you have to love it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you could disagree with a lot of shit.

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<v Speaker 2>He does a lot of extra shit, but like at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, he's an incredibly talented artist,

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<v Speaker 2>and most people like that are like crazy mad geniuses,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, Like before you invited me to go to that,

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<v Speaker 3>to that, I had been like I was thinking, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. My mom said something recently to me,

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<v Speaker 3>not too much, just enough thank you. Maybe she'll that'll

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<v Speaker 3>translate to something the chance to shay. She listens pretty good,

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<v Speaker 3>she does.

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<v Speaker 1>I feeling she's gonna pour it. It's all gonna just

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<v Speaker 1>go everywhere. But whatever gets across that bridge, we'll get there.

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<v Speaker 3>She said something about like I remember like there was

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<v Speaker 3>a time like I grew up going to church with

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<v Speaker 3>my dad, like that was our thing. Like I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>see my dad a lot, but when he did pick

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<v Speaker 3>me up on Sundays, that was his thing, like he

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<v Speaker 3>was repenting for his sins of the week and also

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<v Speaker 3>picking up his daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>He hadn't seen.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to heaven. Yeah, period, And.

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<v Speaker 3>So I grew up like going to a black church

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<v Speaker 3>like that was my first entry into church.

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<v Speaker 1>The church was like the black the choir, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Music, and I remember before I even understood what any

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<v Speaker 3>of it was like that's what connected to feel it.

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<v Speaker 3>You felt like everyone coming together. You felt like everyone Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be learned one second. You felt everyone coming together,

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<v Speaker 3>You felt everyone's energy, You felt like people n you

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<v Speaker 3>felt like people needed help and people were getting help.

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<v Speaker 3>And it just felt like a place where I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>like it just felt like a place even w I

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<v Speaker 3>remember because there was a lot of like people being

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<v Speaker 3>saved and holy ghost and hands raised that never I

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<v Speaker 3>think because I I that never scared me.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember bringing my friends to church with me. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember bringing my little like two of my little

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<v Speaker 3>white home girls to church from like Archer School for Girls,

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<v Speaker 3>which is like the super real, like prestigious middle school.

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<v Speaker 3>My mom sent me to and I took them to

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<v Speaker 3>Church of the Harvest, which was at the Palladium at

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<v Speaker 3>the time. Yes, the Palladium was having church also a

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<v Speaker 3>place where people do drugs currently, Like that's where like

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<v Speaker 3>li so just performed.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's a concert a concert hall.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and people like passing out and ship and speaking

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<v Speaker 3>in tongues and they were all like scared, like first

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<v Speaker 3>was probably.

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<v Speaker 4>The most around of black people they've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 3>They were so scared, and I just kept I was

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<v Speaker 3>like proud. I remember being no, not just proud of

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<v Speaker 3>what It's fine, you guys, this is like totally like

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<v Speaker 3>and being like this is like I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't I just remember this feeling of like this is

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<v Speaker 3>how we do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Also church though too was like confusing to me though,

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<v Speaker 3>because my dad didn't pay attention much.

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<v Speaker 1>He would play games with me all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>And then then at the end would go talk to

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<v Speaker 3>like uh, the like the pre preacher or the pastor

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<v Speaker 3>at the end and go do his like secret like

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<v Speaker 3>private talk or forgiveness or some shit. But I remember like,

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<v Speaker 3>I think my really like, for me, church became negative

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<v Speaker 3>when I got to you know what, I think it

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<v Speaker 3>was my like when I got to high school, when

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<v Speaker 3>I started going to Catholic.

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<v Speaker 4>School, What do you think of it?

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<v Speaker 1>Why?

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<v Speaker 4>Because I think that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so different than anything I was used to.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so like, oh, oh, you're saying that your

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<v Speaker 2>church experience at Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's not even I didn't even go to church.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't grow up going to church every Sunday because

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<v Speaker 3>I just also didn't grow up with my dad my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>I also got a different perspective there.

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<v Speaker 5>You go.

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<v Speaker 3>I also got a different perspective because my mom then

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<v Speaker 3>started to go to church throughout on and off throughout

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<v Speaker 3>my life. I felt like started going whenever there was

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<v Speaker 3>like she was going through going through something, and it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was always it was. It was much different than the

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<v Speaker 1>church my dad would take me to. And I never

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<v Speaker 1>liked that church.

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<v Speaker 3>Was it Catholic or regular. It was like non denominational,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was very like it was in the valley.

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<v Speaker 3>It was very Caucasian, and I just remember it very boring.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't as exciting as the Black church. There was

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<v Speaker 3>no music like that right there weren't people like just

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<v Speaker 3>it was just like the energy that was in that

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<v Speaker 3>space was not in that space, and it just seemed

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<v Speaker 3>like and then I would go to Bible study, it

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<v Speaker 3>felt like I was in school, right, so then going

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<v Speaker 3>to Catholic school where it is school, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it just changed. It just changed.

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<v Speaker 3>And also like it really like the people that were

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<v Speaker 3>teaching me religion and high school, it was a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of shame involved. It was a lot of shame. It

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<v Speaker 3>was a lot of guilt. It was really guilt driven,

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<v Speaker 3>like if you don't do this, then this is what happens,

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<v Speaker 3>and if you don't like believe in this, then you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to hell or like you're not a good or

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<v Speaker 3>you need to do more work so you can be

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<v Speaker 3>a better person.

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<v Speaker 2>That was absolutely where I was like, ah, I'm cool

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<v Speaker 2>to the point where because I was doing bad things

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<v Speaker 2>and then I felt and then they would tell me

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<v Speaker 2>things like when you're in one of g when you're

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<v Speaker 2>one of God's children, he also will punish you when

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing.

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<v Speaker 4>Wrong, and like so stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I got caught like two times in a row

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<v Speaker 2>snaking a boy in my room, were having sex or anything,

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<v Speaker 2>and I got caught twice and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is cause I'm I'm a Christian. Now God is

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna let me get away with this. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like praying on my knees. Oh my God.

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<v Speaker 6>I know. But there's a lot of reasons I'm turned

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<v Speaker 6>off by it. The guilt, the shame.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so many things that come naturally to us as

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<v Speaker 2>women and as people, sexuality, sensuality, being in touch with that, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like to I don't think in any situation

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<v Speaker 2>you should be guilted in doing anything. There should be

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<v Speaker 2>no if you do this, you're gonna go to heaven.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't, you're gonna go to hell. That makes

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<v Speaker 2>me feel uncomfortable. I feel like it's like trying to

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<v Speaker 2>make a fearful people, and I think that's like a

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<v Speaker 2>fear tactic.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't believe in that, so I but also I went.

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<v Speaker 2>To that winter church camp and the last day they

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<v Speaker 2>started speaking in tongues and then they were like like

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<v Speaker 2>trying to really pressure us into catching our tongues too,

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<v Speaker 2>and we just weren't catching the tongues, and like to

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<v Speaker 2>the point they went on the way, like we went

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<v Speaker 2>back to the cabin and they were still trying to

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<v Speaker 2>force the tongue speaking.

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<v Speaker 1>That's too much.

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<v Speaker 4>It was too much. And then one time my youth

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<v Speaker 4>pastor said something.

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<v Speaker 2>About my cleavage. Of course, you know I'm gonna huci

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<v Speaker 2>since I came out the wound. So I was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>why are you looking at my cleavage? This is strange,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I wasn't even thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not, You're never thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Then there's then there's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the black side of me that like I associate

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<v Speaker 2>I associate like Christianity with like their their tactic to

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<v Speaker 2>make like slaves, like give them a little something, but

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<v Speaker 2>take away their freedom.

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<v Speaker 3>I totally cannot wait. So if you is your history

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<v Speaker 3>with the church in Catholicism.

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<v Speaker 1>No, did you go to church?

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<v Speaker 3>I went to Catholic schools, right, But did you go

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<v Speaker 3>to church like in Philly or did you I.

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<v Speaker 4>Went to I always went.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to church with my grandmother and I think

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<v Speaker 2>she I don't even know like Baptists. And then when

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<v Speaker 2>I moved here, my dad is and I grew up

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<v Speaker 2>in a very anti Christian family. My dad was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>no Jesus, some white man that is not like it

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<v Speaker 2>was like some some of white man made it that a

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<v Speaker 2>long time ago, and everybody believed it, and that made sense.

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<v Speaker 4>To me that as I got older, but then I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Eighth grade, I got into it, but as I became

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<v Speaker 2>more aware it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 4>It didn't sit well with me.

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:35.639
<v Speaker 2>This huge white, blue whyed, blonde haired figure looking really

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<v Speaker 2>sad down at me from the cross, Like when I

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<v Speaker 2>went to Lutheran school.

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<v Speaker 1>In seventh grade, I went to you know.

0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Catholics high school, and I just it just made me uneasy.

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<v Speaker 2>And the fact that like, I mean, black people are

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<v Speaker 2>really really into Jesus. And then like definitely in the South,

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<v Speaker 2>then I went to I went to church all the

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<v Speaker 2>way up into like college, but like towards the end

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<v Speaker 2>before I moved from Atlanta, I was like kind of

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<v Speaker 2>getting just after the music was over, I'd be like

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<v Speaker 2>kind of ready to go. They start talking about putting

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<v Speaker 2>money in the pan, and like sometimes I'd say shit

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<v Speaker 2>about gays, and then it would just turn me off,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because I don't believe in any religion there

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<v Speaker 2>should be any room for hating anyone marginalizing a people.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember watching my dad put money and it was

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<v Speaker 3>always he never put less than one hundred dollars, and

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<v Speaker 3>it was usually two or three. And I always remember like, WHOA,

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<v Speaker 3>that's like that's a lot of money. And I was

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<v Speaker 3>like thinking, like why.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we like?

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<v Speaker 3>And I'd see like because I'd see him put this

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<v Speaker 3>money and then I see the next person and be

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<v Speaker 3>like five dollars, and I see the next person it

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<v Speaker 3>might be like ten dollars, and I'm like, WHOA, why

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<v Speaker 3>does my dad feel like he must deliver this much?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, is he I mean, obviously he's giving what

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<v Speaker 3>his percentages?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they tell you, no, I know that's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I mean. But like he's really following that.

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<v Speaker 1>And my dad grew up in the South, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, he went he grew up in church, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was like, I feel like he went to church out

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<v Speaker 3>of just habit because that's what you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 3>And like for me, like when I when I went,

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<v Speaker 3>and I did enjoy it, like I enjoyed the energy.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't I wouldn't say I really like paid. I

0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:14.959
<v Speaker 3>guess I did pay attention to the message. But once

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:16.800
<v Speaker 3>we started opening up the book and reading shit, I

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:19.399
<v Speaker 3>got kind of lost and I remember Sunday school was

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<v Speaker 3>really a.

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<v Speaker 1>Time just to flirt with boys. But I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>like more more recently lately.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, in the past, I would say, I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 3>I think, like because I had Catholic school kind of

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 3>steered me away from religion and a say, in a

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<v Speaker 3>sense in my early twenties, I started like thinking thinking

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<v Speaker 3>more about what my like what I did believe in,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, Okay, I'm a spiritual person.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but what does that actually mean? What does it

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<v Speaker 1>mean to be spiritual?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it just that, like you know, I ask for things,

0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:58.920
<v Speaker 3>I talked to this imaginary thing every now and then,

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<v Speaker 3>or I believe that there's something bigger than me that

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<v Speaker 3>besides me. Who like, what is what exactly it is

0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:11.240
<v Speaker 3>my spirituality? How do I define it? And I've gotten

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:12.960
<v Speaker 3>in and out of like trying to figure that out.

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 3>But recently, I just I've been feeling called to go

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:24.879
<v Speaker 3>to church in some capacity, whether it's church or a

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:27.160
<v Speaker 3>space that I can go and.

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<v Speaker 2>Be committed to devote.

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<v Speaker 3>Devote to that, to figuring out what that means, what

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<v Speaker 3>that what the spirituality means, and exploring that more because

0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 3>there's just been too many times where I've been like, wow,

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 3>shit just is working out. Something is looking the fuck

0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 3>out for me. And it's not just by chance, and

0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:58.480
<v Speaker 3>it's not just by accident or because I'm a good

0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:03.920
<v Speaker 3>person or car or luck. And it's like I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like I've been feeling called to like honor that in

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<v Speaker 3>some way because I should, and I'm grateful for it.

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 3>I feel like, okay, if maybe there's more and more,

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 3>there's more to it, you know, and so but I've

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 3>been feeling conflicted about it. And that's why I really

0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:23.520
<v Speaker 3>actually was looking forward to going to Kanye's thing because

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 3>I did hear like it's it is although it is

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<v Speaker 3>like church in a way, like it's the church that

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<v Speaker 3>I think that I remembered and loved right and when

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<v Speaker 3>you put when I saw those videos and I heard

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 3>the music, it almost like feels like that kind that's

0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 3>what really unlocked it for me when I was a kid,

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:43.080
<v Speaker 3>and that's why I really loved it and I felt

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<v Speaker 3>connected to something.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you can.

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<v Speaker 3>Sprinkle some motivation some you know, some other like deep

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 3>shit in there, I am in. But I just I

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<v Speaker 3>have to find what that means to me and where

0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:56.160
<v Speaker 3>that means to me I'm like, where do I find

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<v Speaker 3>this perfect balance of all the things I need in la?

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<v Speaker 3>I think that hundred dollars Kanye, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, No, well no, I just I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't even think he charges.

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<v Speaker 1>He does. Ashley bought tickets.

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<v Speaker 4>She did, yes, Oh I thought it was free.

0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:14.479
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, we could just go to the forum for

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<v Speaker 1>free and show up.

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<v Speaker 4>Well it was church. Wow, I'm one hundred dollars.

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, this was a new come up.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh wow, I didn't know that. I thought I was. Yeah.

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 4>I think that.

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<v Speaker 2>We rarely get to go to a space amongst other

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:34.520
<v Speaker 2>people and then like bear ourselves and like take off

0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 2>the load of the day, take off the stress, take

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<v Speaker 2>off what you did yesterday, take it off unloaded, and

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<v Speaker 2>bear it. Like there's not a lot of places that

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<v Speaker 2>were willing to be completely.

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 4>Naked.

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 3>Well, we're all here because we want to do something.

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:51.600
<v Speaker 3>We want to do some unpacking.

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 2>And I think that was which was what was really

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 2>beautiful about Kanye, because it is still Kanye.

0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 4>So it's like, is this a concert? Is his church?

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:01.080
<v Speaker 2>But people are like like that's another thing for raising

0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:04.680
<v Speaker 2>of hands, the dropping of knees. Like, to me, that's

0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 2>saying like I'm coming and I'm dropping all of my

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 2>everything that I have, like all the all the the

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 2>faces and the masks that we put up every day

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 2>all the time, not even realizing.

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 7>It just comes to a place and you could just

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:23.360
<v Speaker 7>like let go of all that and be like I'm

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 7>here and I'm laying down everything, and I'm asking for this,

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 7>and I'm you know what I mean, Like that's a

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 7>really beautiful thing.

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 2>I I think that wherever you go to seek, you

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 2>will find it. Like I've practiced Buddhism, I've chanted namio

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 2>hole range Kio. I've been to Buddhists like spaces and

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:46.920
<v Speaker 2>you go in front of a scroll and you ring

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 2>three bells and you nomio ho range geykio as many

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 2>times as you can, and that shit seems strange in

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:56.880
<v Speaker 2>a room full a lot of people. But then like

0:31:56.960 --> 0:32:01.959
<v Speaker 2>there's this powerful movement of this. It's like they call

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 2>it a miss this mystics being mysticness. And which other

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 2>place is like sr F, We've been there. It's by

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 2>Malibu and the Canyon Lake Shrine.

0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's what it's called.

0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:17.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, s re F. It's like self realization fellowship all

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 4>paths that oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I've walked over there. I did met it. Actually I

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 1>went there with my friend.

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 3>The lawn and we meditated there and then we went

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:26.960
<v Speaker 3>They have like this bookstore and they talk about like

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:29.160
<v Speaker 3>the guy who founded it actually have his booked, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I always see yeah and Pamahansa Yogananda. But

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:41.120
<v Speaker 2>I really feel like there is this omni present spirit

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 2>amongst all of us that connects us, that's in God,

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 2>that's in our ancestors, that's in our angels, that's in

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 2>our kids, that's amongst people. And I so whenever we

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 2>can acknowledge that and give it power, it's so it's

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:57.200
<v Speaker 2>also giving ourselves power and that you know, like there's obviously.

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 4>Something bigger than us.

0:32:57.920 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 2>But I think sometimes we get I get stuck on

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 2>the fact, like why we got to calm he him?

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Who?

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 2>Like like what, why does it have to be Jesus,

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:12.240
<v Speaker 2>Jesus Christ, our Lord, our savior. Those words make me uncomfortable.

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 2>And I know for some people that's like, oh no,

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:15.560
<v Speaker 2>she's a heathen.

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe that there's a lot of godly people that

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 3>have walked this earth, a lot of healers, a lot

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:27.960
<v Speaker 3>of people that possess supernatural abilities beyond the realm of

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 3>this world even tonight, like looking up at the like

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 3>I came outside while you were cooking, and I was

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 3>looking at the moon and it was just like, it's

0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 3>just this this orb that's connected to us and controlling

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 3>like I was saying, like controlling the ocean.

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:44.680
<v Speaker 1>How can we think.

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 3>That it doesn't control us that we're not connected to.

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 3>If we're connect we're If we're connected to that, how

0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 3>many other things are we connected to that we don't

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 3>even realize it? Then that's why energy is so important.

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:59.160
<v Speaker 3>We are all connected. Everything we're connected to. I'm connected

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 3>to this fucking because it came from a tree that

0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:02.840
<v Speaker 3>you know.

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:03.280
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean?

0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 4>Like, well, because they're all man out of the same shit.

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 3>I know, it's just we're particles and cells and atoms.

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 3>I just feel like I don't know, like there are

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:16.239
<v Speaker 3>I believe there have been holy men like Jesus or

0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:20.360
<v Speaker 3>Buddha or whoever. And there's not just one specifically that

0:34:20.920 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if there's one person or thing I

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 3>would worship.

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:26.360
<v Speaker 1>It's more like I honor energy.

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 4>I see the God in you.

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 2>I see the God, you know, like these are just

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:32.960
<v Speaker 2>you have the honor energy, you have the honor what

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 2>comes natural to you, and I don't. Sometimes I get

0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 2>stuck between, like, do we need like discernment? Do we

0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:42.479
<v Speaker 2>need discipline in certain areas? Absolutely, But I also feel

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:45.359
<v Speaker 2>like there's so much to learn and being free and

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 2>honoring all parts of yourselves because there's like, there's things

0:34:48.160 --> 0:34:50.880
<v Speaker 2>in Muslim culture I can really appreciate. There's things in

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 2>a lot of different cultures I can appreciate where But

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 2>then sometimes I see Muslim women all covered, and I'm like.

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:02.239
<v Speaker 3>Because I think inevitably that feeling eventually gets manipulated in

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:05.400
<v Speaker 3>some way no offense, like I somewhat in all religions

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:08.239
<v Speaker 3>and all in some ways there's a controlling.

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:09.960
<v Speaker 4>Aspect of any system. There's going to be people who

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:11.560
<v Speaker 4>take advantage of that system.

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:13.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I'm not saying that because there's beauty in

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:15.759
<v Speaker 3>all of it, and I get that there's discipline in

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 3>all of it, which you know could be argued, which

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:21.000
<v Speaker 3>is why women have to wear this and whatever. But

0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:28.040
<v Speaker 3>like I think that, I don't know, is it sad

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<v Speaker 3>to think that? Is it human nature to just want

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<v Speaker 3>to control?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:35.319
<v Speaker 2>I always battle this in my head. I battle what

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 2>is human that's our fault. Yeah, Like what is human nature?

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:40.719
<v Speaker 1>Is that our one fault? Like not one? But like

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:43.439
<v Speaker 1>obvious there's more? But is that the core of like.

0:35:43.080 --> 0:35:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Like no, but like if I give Erica a seventy

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 2>percent power over a system, are you going to inevitably

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:49.799
<v Speaker 2>abuse it?

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:50.480
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:53.520
<v Speaker 4>I would hate to say that, Like I would say, like,

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:55.319
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean.

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Does it just take one bad apple to ruin the bunch?

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:00.720
<v Speaker 4>Are they just some fucked up people?

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:01.439
<v Speaker 1>That's what I mean?

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:06.440
<v Speaker 2>Like, I don't know, Yeah, Like do do some people

0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:12.800
<v Speaker 2>actually need religion because they can't gauge just a regular

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:16.400
<v Speaker 2>ethical moral compass of love by fucking neighbor because it

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 2>seems pretty much given? But then we see that it's not.

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:24.120
<v Speaker 2>And I would like to say that's the route because

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:27.320
<v Speaker 2>people have been hurt and so they act out and

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:28.160
<v Speaker 2>hurt other people.

0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:33.720
<v Speaker 4>But are people just born that way? Like do people?

0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 4>Like do people need these systems to be moral?

0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:44.000
<v Speaker 1>This the systems of what we're religio religion? N I know,

0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. I don't think so.

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:48.839
<v Speaker 4>I don't think so either. I mean because I'm sure

0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 4>Christians kill?

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:52.399
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean You're sure? Right?

0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:57.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, yeah, so you're not exempt, No.

0:36:57.719 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 3>But I do believe that, Okay, I don't know. Like,

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:04.880
<v Speaker 3>so I battle this because I want to believe that

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 3>everyone is born pure, that we're all given the same

0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:12.239
<v Speaker 3>opportunity the like in like once we're born, like in

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:15.280
<v Speaker 3>a perfect world, right, I think even in a perfect

0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:19.839
<v Speaker 3>world you can have the perfect everything. I think just

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:24.440
<v Speaker 3>like there's people that are born and just I don't know,

0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:25.479
<v Speaker 3>I do believe like.

0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Evil can be born as well. Oh for sure, it's

0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 1>not like everyone is just pure.

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:32.760
<v Speaker 4>But then it's like, where does that come from?

0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:36.600
<v Speaker 2>That a past life, reliving something, living something out I

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:39.720
<v Speaker 2>just think, okay, and then that's another thing. Religion, So okay,

0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:44.239
<v Speaker 2>what is religion at its core? Religion is so quick

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:49.800
<v Speaker 2>to frown their nose that that really anything witchcraft, witchery

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:51.120
<v Speaker 2>like brew.

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<v Speaker 7>Ha.

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:53.760
<v Speaker 4>But at the end of the day.

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:54.840
<v Speaker 1>That depends what religion.

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:59.560
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, yeah, true, But like all of it is ritualistic,

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:04.200
<v Speaker 2>the blood of Christ, the blood and body of Christ.

0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:07.879
<v Speaker 2>Like that's strange, you know. So it's just like it's

0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:10.319
<v Speaker 2>circumclis and all of them. Yeah, oh God, don't get

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:14.360
<v Speaker 2>me started. I watched this documentary Orthodox Jews.

0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:16.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to talk about it. I told you no,

0:38:16.719 --> 0:38:17.719
<v Speaker 1>but I already know a lot.

0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:23.240
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, okay, I gotta say it. We're talking about religion.

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:27.480
<v Speaker 2>We can't skip over it. I don't think they do

0:38:27.520 --> 0:38:29.759
<v Speaker 2>it well. I know most people don't do it anymore.

0:38:29.480 --> 0:38:33.680
<v Speaker 6>But very early on, in very extreme situations, the rabbi

0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:36.239
<v Speaker 6>would cut the baby and then put his mouth on

0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:38.840
<v Speaker 6>the penis to I don't fucking know what.

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:41.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:43.360
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, I'm not.

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:45.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't mean to laugh, but like, no, it's not

0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:47.240
<v Speaker 3>it's it's not a laughing matter.

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 1>But that's their tradition.

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then there's another there's another Orthodoxy Jewish tradition

0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:54.800
<v Speaker 2>where they.

0:38:56.280 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 4>Match the husband in life. They get married, they.

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:02.279
<v Speaker 2>Go in another room while their entire wedding party waits

0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:04.719
<v Speaker 2>out in front of the dwarfs for her to consummate

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 2>the marriage. So essentially, your whole family is waiting for

0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:09.840
<v Speaker 2>you to fuck in the next room and then you

0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:12.080
<v Speaker 2>come out. No, they put a hole in your dress

0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:13.360
<v Speaker 2>so you can stick it through. Then they come on

0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:17.120
<v Speaker 2>like oh opah, and everybody knows. Basically just like your

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:18.880
<v Speaker 2>cherry pop in the other room, and then you have

0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:23.239
<v Speaker 2>a party and I was like, whoa, And I think that's.

0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Been going on for centuries.

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:27.759
<v Speaker 3>But there's different and many different religions though not just

0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:29.200
<v Speaker 3>orthodoxed no, but there's a.

0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Lot of like we've seen pedophilia, sexual magic and acts

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 2>that are taking place in religious like.

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:42.399
<v Speaker 4>So much. It can all get murky, It can get

0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 4>it can all get murky.

0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:45.960
<v Speaker 3>Even the witchiest of the witchy shit. It gets a

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:46.839
<v Speaker 3>little scary too.

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:49.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, No, that is scary when you're you can deal,

0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:51.400
<v Speaker 2>when you're dealing, when you're dealing.

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:52.320
<v Speaker 4>In harnessing energy.

0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:57.279
<v Speaker 2>It can get murky if you have bad intentions. But

0:39:57.640 --> 0:40:00.160
<v Speaker 2>at the very root of it, all the ritualistic and

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 2>the sacrifices, it all comes from some like rather pagan

0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:06.720
<v Speaker 2>ass shit. It's true.

0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 1>All it takes is one dark thought and then that

0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:12.160
<v Speaker 1>thought turns.

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<v Speaker 4>Into hmm, no, well everybody has dark thoughts.

0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:17.080
<v Speaker 1>No, but I mean, but some people act on them. Okay,

0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:21.960
<v Speaker 1>well some people don't, you know. That's the difference in sanity.

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of weird fucking thoughts. Okay, do

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:25.160
<v Speaker 1>I do them all?

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:25.719
<v Speaker 4>Thank God?

0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:27.160
<v Speaker 1>No? Okank god?

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 4>No, I don't know if we just confused ourselves bad now,

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:36.160
<v Speaker 4>I sound.

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:39.839
<v Speaker 1>Like a creep. What kind of thoughts? Is air? Fuck

0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:40.480
<v Speaker 1>is going on?

0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:41.920
<v Speaker 4>Everybody has crazy thoughts.

0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:45.400
<v Speaker 2>You're not alone and you're crazy thoughts.

0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:49.239
<v Speaker 4>Just don't act on them if they're crazy. Okay, So

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:53.200
<v Speaker 4>because I felt, okay, what would you do? What?

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:53.279
<v Speaker 1>What?

0:40:53.640 --> 0:40:57.600
<v Speaker 2>How are you going to instill spirituality or religion in

0:40:57.640 --> 0:41:00.680
<v Speaker 2>your child? Because I realized what I took. I mean

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:03.759
<v Speaker 2>Erica and I took Luna to Sunday service. She was

0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:04.480
<v Speaker 2>so over it.

0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:06.440
<v Speaker 1>She was like, how would she into it?

0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:10.120
<v Speaker 4>At first though, she was just like whatever, this is?

0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:10.839
<v Speaker 4>This the last song?

0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:13.120
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, and she would try to sing

0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:15.319
<v Speaker 2>some of the songs she knew, but she was well,

0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:16.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, she could have also been just trying to

0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 2>be a fret.

0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:22.839
<v Speaker 1>But could she sit or was she standing the whole time?

0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:23.360
<v Speaker 4>Okay?

0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:25.439
<v Speaker 6>I picked her up because sometimes other people were standing

0:41:25.520 --> 0:41:26.400
<v Speaker 6>so she couldn't see.

0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:29.719
<v Speaker 1>But I'm being that small having all these people stand around.

0:41:29.560 --> 0:41:33.839
<v Speaker 4>You sounds.

0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:36.440
<v Speaker 2>Are we supposed to be taking the kids to church

0:41:36.520 --> 0:41:38.759
<v Speaker 2>so they know some sense of the Lord. Because I

0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:40.319
<v Speaker 2>was like, she doesn't know anything about church?

0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:42.279
<v Speaker 1>She was like, what's happening? I always been asked them

0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 1>about God lately too? Oh my gosh, what did she say?

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:51.040
<v Speaker 3>Said the sweetest thing the other day, which also touched

0:41:51.080 --> 0:41:53.040
<v Speaker 3>my heart in a way where I was like, okay,

0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 3>like I'm letting her lead this conversation. In some ways,

0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:00.319
<v Speaker 3>I want to see what her like. I know that

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:03.279
<v Speaker 3>people or there's inevitably someone has told her what God is,

0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:04.799
<v Speaker 3>whether or not I know it or not, whether it's

0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 3>at school or you know. But right like, we were

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:09.880
<v Speaker 3>looking at the sun and she was like, look at

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:12.560
<v Speaker 3>the sunset, mommy, and she was like, how is it

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:16.439
<v Speaker 3>that color? And I was like I don't. I couldn't think,

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:18.719
<v Speaker 3>and I was like I don't know. She's like I know,

0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:22.719
<v Speaker 3>and I was like what. She's like, it's God and

0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:26.960
<v Speaker 3>I was like, wow, yes, it is God. And the

0:42:27.000 --> 0:42:31.239
<v Speaker 3>other day she asked me there was something else and

0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:33.759
<v Speaker 3>she had said something about God or is.

0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:37.040
<v Speaker 1>That what God is? Is God in the sky? Where

0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:37.479
<v Speaker 1>is God?

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:40.160
<v Speaker 4>Imagine her child? How foreign and strange is.

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Is he coming to dinner? Who can keeps on talking

0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:45.960
<v Speaker 1>about him?

0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:46.400
<v Speaker 4>I haven't seen it?

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:48.319
<v Speaker 1>When do we meet him? What the fun do you mean?

0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:48.400
<v Speaker 7>Like?

0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:49.880
<v Speaker 4>Why does he look like a bird.

0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:53.120
<v Speaker 3>She hasn't asked me all those questions yet, but I

0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:58.640
<v Speaker 3>think she understands that it's bigger than us, that it's

0:42:58.719 --> 0:43:02.320
<v Speaker 3>not like someone that's gonna that's coming over anytime soon, right,

0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:05.480
<v Speaker 3>you know that he you know that he's around and

0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 3>he's or she is responsible or it or whatever is

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:13.960
<v Speaker 3>responsible for you know, beauty and things we can't explain.

0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:19.000
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, it's interesting. I don't know. I

0:43:19.480 --> 0:43:24.520
<v Speaker 1>want her to believe that. I want her to I

0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 1>want her to believe in the power of energy me too, and.

0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:33.120
<v Speaker 4>Really the power of beautiful things happening.

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:37.399
<v Speaker 3>Beautiful things happening in connection, and really that it's all

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:42.320
<v Speaker 3>inside of you, because truly, that's what it is. And

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:47.279
<v Speaker 3>it's just like, I don't know, we spend so much

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:51.280
<v Speaker 3>time looking outwardly and trying to find this bigger purpose

0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:54.000
<v Speaker 3>going on all these that not to knock anything or

0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:57.880
<v Speaker 3>about trying to go on retreats or like, you know,

0:43:57.960 --> 0:44:01.520
<v Speaker 3>trying to find something because we all get to that

0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:05.799
<v Speaker 3>in different ways. But really it's just it's always here.

0:44:05.840 --> 0:44:10.840
<v Speaker 3>It's always been here, and it's just trying to remember

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:12.840
<v Speaker 3>that or know what that even feels like when you

0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:14.720
<v Speaker 3>find it, being like, oh that's.

0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:16.880
<v Speaker 4>It, right, Oh, I feel connected.

0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:17.279
<v Speaker 5>Hm.

0:44:22.280 --> 0:44:27.360
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know if I don't know. I'm gonna

0:44:27.760 --> 0:44:30.040
<v Speaker 1>if anybody is listening right now, if.

0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:33.520
<v Speaker 3>You live in the LA area and you know of

0:44:33.840 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 3>some sort of place of worship, I should explore.

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:37.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm going on a tour.

0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:39.920
<v Speaker 4>I feel like all the black people and m I

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:40.960
<v Speaker 4>go to one particular sho.

0:44:41.280 --> 0:44:43.840
<v Speaker 1>I know it's called like the one, the one right, Yeah, No,

0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:44.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm cool on that one.

0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 4>It was nice when I went. I was too high

0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:48.920
<v Speaker 4>that day to like be into religion.

0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, it seems I feel like that's

0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:52.480
<v Speaker 1>also a scene.

0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:53.479
<v Speaker 4>It is a scene.

0:44:53.520 --> 0:44:56.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to go to LA everything is No.

0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:58.320
<v Speaker 3>It's not I want to go to the SRF. Okay

0:44:58.400 --> 0:45:01.000
<v Speaker 3>a is bomb that seeing like a scene when.

0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:02.279
<v Speaker 4>I went, But the music is not going to be

0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:03.000
<v Speaker 4>like what you're trying to get.

0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:03.440
<v Speaker 3>I know.

0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:05.960
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing. Where do I get the whole balance

0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:06.319
<v Speaker 1>of it all?

0:45:06.440 --> 0:45:14.839
<v Speaker 8>Is can Kanye Kanye like I even Kanye Choir elaborate

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:19.240
<v Speaker 8>with self Realization's fellowship at Lake Shrine.

0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:21.920
<v Speaker 4>Let's put that out in the universe.

0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to start my own quo Sia, starting my

0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:29.239
<v Speaker 1>own choir? Is that is my first.

0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:31.800
<v Speaker 4>Know when you're.

0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:37.080
<v Speaker 5>No.

0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:39.960
<v Speaker 3>Honestly though, I mean, I I think, I think, I'm

0:45:40.000 --> 0:45:44.000
<v Speaker 3>like I honestly like, there's been so many times, especially

0:45:44.239 --> 0:45:46.719
<v Speaker 3>the last time was in Atlanta, like when we were

0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:49.880
<v Speaker 3>out there, like I finally just surrendered and I believed.

0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:54.120
<v Speaker 3>I was like, something bigger is going to make this okay.

0:45:54.480 --> 0:45:57.799
<v Speaker 3>It's going to be fine, and I know it's not

0:45:58.080 --> 0:46:03.040
<v Speaker 3>a coincidence when it happens. And then it happened, and

0:46:03.120 --> 0:46:05.480
<v Speaker 3>I told myself, if it happened in a way, made

0:46:05.480 --> 0:46:07.960
<v Speaker 3>a promise, not a promise. But I was like, like,

0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:11.800
<v Speaker 3>I can't ignore this anymore. I have to do something

0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:14.399
<v Speaker 3>about this. I feel called to do something about it.

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:17.520
<v Speaker 3>So that's why even when you invited me, it felt like, whoa,

0:46:17.600 --> 0:46:22.920
<v Speaker 3>that's weird because I've been literally thinking about this and

0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:24.880
<v Speaker 3>we don't talk about religion, I mean you, because we

0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:28.440
<v Speaker 3>don't talk about talk about religion, you know, so I

0:46:28.480 --> 0:46:29.640
<v Speaker 3>hadn't told you that yet.

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:33.280
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, this is so weird non religious relationship.

0:46:33.360 --> 0:46:37.440
<v Speaker 1>I guess to me our parents we're also on our

0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:38.520
<v Speaker 1>religion together.

0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:43.400
<v Speaker 4>Jesus Christ, Oh my goodness.

0:46:44.360 --> 0:46:46.880
<v Speaker 2>I just think, really what it is is like for

0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:49.640
<v Speaker 2>for me, for Lunin, for the kids. It's just letting

0:46:49.680 --> 0:46:54.359
<v Speaker 2>her know that divine things happen when you allow them to.

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<v Speaker 2>There have been so I'm not really like religious, but like,

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<v Speaker 2>there are things.

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<v Speaker 4>That happen all the time where I was like, it's yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that name that popped up when we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh right, right, that was so weird. It's God, like, Hai,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm around, it's me here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm showing myself believe it.

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<v Speaker 6>Even that moment that you're talking about in Atlanta when.

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<v Speaker 4>We were bad, we were in.

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<v Speaker 2>A bad situation and Erica usually be stressing the fuck out,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is a good valid reason to stress the

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<v Speaker 2>funk out, Like they're gonna come get this ship. We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have to pay another day and we don't have

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<v Speaker 2>the money for this ship, and you're like everything else

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<v Speaker 2>has worked itself out, It's gonna work out. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, hmm, that's new, but you're right, so okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm always like, well, if you can't do anything

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<v Speaker 2>about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You just be.

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<v Speaker 6>And literally that was the defining moment in our in

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<v Speaker 6>our fucking manifesting of shit happening for us, because looking

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<v Speaker 6>for Jamel not having, not having, like he'm not answering the.

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<v Speaker 4>Phone for hours or at all.

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<v Speaker 6>We've only met him like twice at this point, and

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<v Speaker 6>we see this man walk through this place.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just so crazy. I mean, I want our

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<v Speaker 2>kids to know that's there's something someone rooting for you.

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<v Speaker 2>So have faith in that and follow that and don't

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<v Speaker 2>miss any messages from anyone and any small thing that

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<v Speaker 2>seems a little bit missed it.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a question, irin, what is God?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh kind of people? That makes people?

0:48:49.520 --> 0:48:56.080
<v Speaker 1>People? That makes people? Because God as people? Okay, where's God?

0:48:56.800 --> 0:49:01.839
<v Speaker 1>And God in God? God is in God? Kay? Does God?

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<v Speaker 1>Where God? Where does God live in God?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 7>Cool? I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a good description. Well, on that note, it's late.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta put this little one to sleep.

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<v Speaker 4>No, yes, but I love you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you're out. I love you too.

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<v Speaker 4>Ooh it's here, Oh my god. Oh oh more.

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<v Speaker 2>If you are in the LA area, come hang out

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<v Speaker 2>with us on Saturday nights at a simple bar off

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<v Speaker 2>a Kawenga in Hollywood Hills actually.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Studio City, not what like. I don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>how they got across it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it goes up. It's like the hill Us. It's

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<v Speaker 4>in a little plaza. It's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a dope.

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<v Speaker 2>Bar.

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<v Speaker 3>They play hip hop and the drinks are good, and

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<v Speaker 3>we'll be there. We'll be there hanging out nine thirty

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<v Speaker 3>ish nine pm nine.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we already committed to nine Yeah you know

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<v Speaker 2>really yeah, we'd be late nine thirty.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't get there and not say hi. That's weird.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, please don't do that, Like, just come say hi. Work,

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<v Speaker 3>That's why we're all there. We're all there to say hi.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, bring a single friend, bring a tender date, a

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<v Speaker 2>hinge date.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that person that's been in that inbox that you're like, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know should I do it? Where should we meet?

0:50:40.480 --> 0:50:43.359
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to like be weird. Just invite them there,

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<v Speaker 3>simple bar. We'll vet them for you.

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<v Speaker 1>We're professionals, professional tender vetters.

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<v Speaker 2>Any other announcements, Oh yeah, we have a big announcednage.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, dude, after one complete year of really strategic have

0:51:07.280 --> 0:51:09.920
<v Speaker 3>been one year, it's been a minute, I think, so

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even think we It doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>The point is we stalked and stalked and stocked like

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<v Speaker 2>we always do.

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<v Speaker 1>The point is is just do it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's God.

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<v Speaker 7>Just ask.

0:51:20.840 --> 0:51:23.239
<v Speaker 1>If you don't ask, then you'll never know. This is

0:51:23.400 --> 0:51:26.120
<v Speaker 1>We're proof of that. Okay, this podcast is proof of that.

0:51:26.719 --> 0:51:29.160
<v Speaker 3>Just everything that we're doing is proof that if you

0:51:29.280 --> 0:51:33.920
<v Speaker 3>just try and just fucking ask and don't just do it,

0:51:34.360 --> 0:51:38.520
<v Speaker 3>just do it like Nike. Anyway, we have fucking Sean

0:51:38.719 --> 0:51:40.560
<v Speaker 3>King coming on our podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's right, you heard her.

0:51:42.600 --> 0:51:47.320
<v Speaker 2>Sean King is coming on Good Mom's Bad Choices.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and we're so excited because we've been following him

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<v Speaker 3>for a minute. I just have so many questions, and

0:51:55.239 --> 0:51:58.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure maybe you guys do too, So please please email,

0:51:58.680 --> 0:52:03.000
<v Speaker 3>please email us any question, you have, anything you want,

0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:04.040
<v Speaker 3>just go for it.

0:52:04.080 --> 0:52:06.280
<v Speaker 1>This is your time. If you've ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Wanted to ask Seaun King anything, or social activist or

0:52:09.440 --> 0:52:13.719
<v Speaker 3>a black man, or a father or just an overall

0:52:14.200 --> 0:52:17.320
<v Speaker 3>just educated human some shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Here you go. You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Seaun King baby will be in New York.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, next week we will. So if you're out there,

0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:30.680
<v Speaker 3>let us know. Okay, let's go do some shit.

0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:31.879
<v Speaker 4>Let's go get into some shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, are we gonna have a New York

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<v Speaker 1>meet up?

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like we don't have any time, but we

0:52:35.400 --> 0:52:37.759
<v Speaker 4>need to maybe just like a just like a bar,

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<v Speaker 4>a happy hour, meet us a happy hour.

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<v Speaker 2>We actually have to we just announced it, so if

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<v Speaker 2>you have any happy hour suggestions.

0:52:45.640 --> 0:52:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Please let us know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, anyway, anyway, we will catch you guys next week.

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<v Speaker 1>I told you I'm your littery.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't need some ticketsh mama, Please, you're comforted with my

0:52:59.520 --> 0:53:01.480
<v Speaker 3>sheep found It's like a crush appreaching.

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<v Speaker 1>Never led on me, My mama, she inspired me like you.

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<v Speaker 3>Good woman.

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<v Speaker 5>She could say the world, but tell me who gone

0:53:11.760 --> 0:53:12.399
<v Speaker 5>save her?

0:53:14.520 --> 0:53:15.839
<v Speaker 4>Who gone save her?

0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:19.800
<v Speaker 2>Blessing woman.

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<v Speaker 1>She could say the world, but tell me