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Speaker 1: Marire, Oh, I see you my own and look over

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Speaker 1: there is that the culture? Yes, Lost cultu ding Lost

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Speaker 1: Culturesa's calling.

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Speaker 2: It's the day of days, It's the days of our lives.

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Speaker 2: Oh so can I tell you growing up, my mom,

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Speaker 2: Katrina Rogers, was an ABC soap person. So in our

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Speaker 2: house was General Hospital all my children and what was

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Speaker 2: the other one? No passions and also passions had like

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Speaker 2: witch craft, vampires and which.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I'm forgetting the third one, but those those what

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Speaker 3: One life?

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Speaker 2: And so my intro to our guest was not soaps.

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Speaker 2: It was actually red carpet and hosting, which.

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Speaker 1: As we now know, yes, I mean now they're they're

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Speaker 1: really dipping into like an interesting talent. But we'll get

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Speaker 1: into this later. But it's like Gabby wedding doing the

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Speaker 1: red carpet, the VMA's slave. Also, that is a hard

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Speaker 1: job and very hard. This is hard work and we

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Speaker 1: will get into this, into the nitty gritty. That is

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Speaker 1: a really good first exposure. My first exposure, yes, Ronica

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Speaker 1: Mars with the amazing, hairy Harry Hamlin, and that was

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Speaker 1: when I knew. I was like, there's something about this actor.

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Speaker 2: It's one of those it's true pop culture iconography because

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Speaker 2: it's not just one thing, it's so many different things. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: our guest is a beloved, memorable fixture from the Real

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Speaker 2: Housewives of Beverly Hills and now has like I feel,

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Speaker 2: had this incredible new wind as like a fashion icon,

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Speaker 2: which always has been it was always true, but it's

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Speaker 2: truly walking in motion now and I think I could

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Speaker 2: call it the highlight of our awards show of our

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Speaker 2: lost culture is those culture Awards, particularly one moment, all

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Speaker 1: But you know, in the moment I'm talking about. There

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Speaker 1: were several highlights, much like Kelly Clarkson's hair during the

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Speaker 2: You really just went there. And by went there, I

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Speaker 2: mean showed that we are millennial gay guys.

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Speaker 1: But there were several highlights. I think one of the

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Speaker 1: most stunning streaks of the show was our guest truly

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Speaker 1: giving an embodied performance. This is where you go. That's right.

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Speaker 1: She's an actor, she is she knows how to play

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Speaker 2: I thought Moore was on stage. I thought I was,

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Speaker 2: like many people thought to me, more on stage. We

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Speaker 2: But I mean, I think there was just a lot

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Speaker 2: in the weeks after about that being a particular highlight

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Speaker 2: of the show. Absolutely, she's an Icontrius of fashion legend,

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Speaker 2: she's an acting legend.

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Speaker 1: We love her. She's a patron of theater. Because we

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Speaker 1: will get into this. This is our first meeting. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh yes, of course you told me about this immediately.

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Speaker 1: And podcaster as well. Let's not talk about the husband.

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Speaker 1: I listen to the pod.

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Speaker 2: It's presented by Deer Media alongside Yes, Harry Hamlin. They

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Speaker 2: continue to be a very rich duo in love, in life,

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Speaker 2: in podcasting, and more and more.

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Speaker 1: We're so thrilled to geez here, everyone give it up

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Speaker 3: That was so fun to just sit and listen to. Well,

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Speaker 2: You should, like you should. But the thing is, there

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Speaker 2: is so much to talk with you about, about like

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Speaker 2: You are truly what it means to be like a

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you. I certainly have survived for a very

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Speaker 2: Wow, But the word survive implies like perilies.

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Speaker 3: Damn, that's true. But this business can be like that,

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Speaker 1: It won't be the final thing.

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Speaker 3: No, it certainly isn't going to be the final thing

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Speaker 1: No, with the awards like you are, welcome.

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Speaker 3: Back, Oh great, fantastic. You're never going to get rid

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Speaker 3: fun because again, I think when I went to do

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Speaker 2: And I will say, like, when when I think people

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Speaker 3: It's complicated only because I think it's so weird, because

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's that's what I mean though. That's probably

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Speaker 1: Absolutely? We would you would be like yes? But so

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not up to us, it's not for us

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Speaker 2: Of this thing lately that I think is happening, which

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Speaker 2: even feel like that a little bit. With the Cultural Awards.

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Speaker 2: Like it's like, are people going to remember this reference?

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Speaker 1: But you don't think, but you don't think it's an

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Speaker 1: whatever years. You are making choices in your own life.

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Speaker 3: And thank you very much and thank god. I guess right.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the beauty of it all. And it's

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Speaker 1: But similar to you, and I went back and watched

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Speaker 3: That's the truth. But you still feel the way that

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Speaker 3: way has not changed. Nothing's really changed, to be honest.

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Speaker 3: I think they get a kick out of me, which

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Speaker 2: Well, also it's because it's they're probably now reaching the

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Speaker 3: Yes, there's a lot of that, especially Days of Our Lives.

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Speaker 3: I did that, so it really truly is it's fascinating

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Speaker 3: and it changes all the time, and it's because you.

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Speaker 1: Know, you know what the thing is.

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Speaker 2: And this is why we were so enthusiastic about having

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Speaker 1: The show was long. We recorded for about three hours.

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Speaker 3: It certainly did, and I didn't expect it. This kind

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Speaker 2: To say I couldn't believe that that I happened and

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Speaker 2: But still you're up there a human being being sued.

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Speaker 3: But you know, it's funny because I actually took it

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Speaker 3: So when I went out at first, It's funny because

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Speaker 3: In the back my mind because the wrestlers I used

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Speaker 3: It's real, real, real, Henny.

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Speaker 1: It's real. It's not like the underticker the rock Stone,

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Speaker 3: It's very thin like that.

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Speaker 1: But that must be that must affect you in some way.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's hard because if you come into it as

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Speaker 4: Well, I certainly did, do you know what I'm saying

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Speaker 3: But in my real life I never said how I

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like, because I remember when I started

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Speaker 1: It actually exactly.

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Speaker 2: To not become a more confrontational person. But it made

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Speaker 3: The beauty also of that show. If you can work

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Speaker 1: Do a whole lot right because you're not being forced to.

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Speaker 3: You're not being forced to and being forced to. I

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Speaker 1: No, it really it did help.

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Speaker 3: Me in many ways. It also helped me in my acting, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: for sure, because you really have to say how you feel,

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Speaker 1: Of course. But I think what you innovated in the

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Speaker 3: Break a glass note and to break.

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Speaker 2: A glass but thank god you did to make it

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Speaker 2: that is the actor in you.

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Speaker 3: Ah, well, that's true, and I can't help that. I

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Speaker 3: base to love me. I'm not one of those people

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Speaker 3: that go on Twitter and find out what everyone's saying

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Speaker 1: You and I mean started at the same time, which

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Speaker 2: Yes, So one of the things that I feel like

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Speaker 1: New jobs and that purpose. It's so different in what

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Speaker 2: But for a show like Housewives, where it is you're

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Speaker 2: you still close with not to say your allies on

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And to me, even though I don't see those women

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Speaker 3: in friendship, in all of that, because whether we're trauma

440
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 3: bonded or what we are the bond, there is a

441
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,199
Speaker 3: bond there. And I love a handful of those women.

442
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,800
Speaker 3: I think you all know which ones. I don't even

443
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 3: think I have to tell you which I really do.

444
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,239
Speaker 3: And I have dinner with them and you know, they

445
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,119
Speaker 3: did want to film me, and I said no. I

446
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 3: did say no to the filming at the wedding because

447
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 3: I didn't feel that that was what it was about.

448
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 1: I was there, Oh, they were shooting the wedding.

449
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 3: They shot it sort of a little bit. I mean

450
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 3: they had producer cameras there, which iPhones on steroids, you

451
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 3: know what I mean. But I felt, no, you're not

452
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 3: going to get me back that way. I'm going to

453
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 3: go and support my friend and her daughter and my

454
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 3: my other friends at this wedding. Yeah, I felt good

455
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 3: about that saying no, I'd love to come, but no,

456
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 3: you can't shoot me.

457
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 1: That's what you're in control. That's that's what you were

458
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 1: saying earlier. I'm going to show you this much, and

459
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 1: it gets to be on your terms.

460
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 3: Now, see, when you're doing that show, it really doesn't

461
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 3: get to be on your terms, you know, and on

462
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,679
Speaker 3: a lot of I mean, does it get to be

463
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,360
Speaker 3: on your terms? On Saturday Night Live question right.

464
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,360
Speaker 1: On weeks where you're like, I've got nothing, the well

465
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,199
Speaker 1: is bone dry, I still have to write a sketch

466
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 1: that probably won't be received. Well, then that's like docs

467
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: against me, you know, It's that kind of thing. This

468
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,679
Speaker 1: is like I want to talk about soap acting.

469
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 2: Oh, because this is you guys have to be off

470
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 2: book on reams of paper of.

471
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 3: Forty pages, sometimes of dialogue forty I would have twenty

472
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 3: to forty pages of dialogue a day.

473
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 1: How long did you do?

474
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 3: Three years?

475
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 1: Three years of days?

476
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:22,439
Speaker 3: Three years?

477
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's first job. Really, that's that's olympic.

478
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 3: It's olympic. But it trains you. You know, if you

479
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 3: don't get the chance to go to Juilliard or you know.

480
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 1: Yale, or do you get your education?

481
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,199
Speaker 3: Oh honey, you get your education. You learn how to

482
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,880
Speaker 3: be professional. Because you've got forty people waiting for you.

483
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 3: You can't fuck around. Nope, You're like, you better know

484
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 3: your lines. And most of the time I would be

485
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 3: working with people that have been on the show for

486
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 3: years and years and years that used cue cards, because

487
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 3: that's how after being on the show for twenty five

488
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 3: years you got to It's very hard to learn, of course,

489
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 3: of course, so to learn how to act with somebody

490
00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 3: who's looking over here while you're here was very difficult.

491
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 3: I could never do the que cards, so I had

492
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 3: to memorize my life.

493
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 1: Got it? I mean there is there's a common thing

494
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 1: among soap actors where Sarah Sherman said this when she

495
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 1: when she went on General Hospital, she was like, can

496
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 1: you guys cry on cue? All the actors go which I?

497
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 3: Which I?

498
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: They do?

499
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 3: It's true, yes, and that's why I want Oh didro

500
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 3: Hall could cry out it? She'd say, do you want

501
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 3: left or right?

502
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,199
Speaker 1: Which I is the title of that?

503
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:31,719
Speaker 3: Which seriously so cut to when I had the moment

504
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 3: with the bunny on Housewives.

505
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: Oh my god, did you which I here?

506
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 3: No, no, because I never could do it. It just

507
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 3: happened accidentally. I could never make that happen. But I

508
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 3: was so proud because I did it. But I didn't

509
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 3: really do it.

510
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: But I did it, No, because you were living accident.

511
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: You did it with the camera that is. I think

512
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 1: it's it's.

513
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 2: Top five all Bravo images. Is just you glaring at

514
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 2: her with that.

515
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 3: Telling you the genius of their editing at times, I mean,

516
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 3: come on, and the crackling of the cellophane.

517
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 2: I actually just every time we go into the clubhouse.

518
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 2: We've been lucky to go many times, but this last time,

519
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 2: everyone where we where we went to go promote the

520
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 2: Cultural Awards, I was like, not only am I looking

521
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 2: at the bunny, I'm holding the bunny.

522
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: She does crackle, she crackles.

523
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 3: And the way that they did that in the editing,

524
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 3: it's so good. You know, I didn't plan that. I

525
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 3: went and got a present and instead of wrapping it,

526
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 3: they were like, do you want it in cellophane with

527
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 3: a bow? Yeah, Like, there's no planning to it.

528
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: That's what butterfly effect, that's what that.

529
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 3: Is the magic. Anytime that can happen, that's the magic. Yeah,

530
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 3: you can't plan it. You're doing something actually good for

531
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 3: somebody or trying to and then it turns into this

532
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 3: meme that is never going to go away.

533
00:24:50,240 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 2: Really so, because I always feel whenever we have someone

534
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 2: on the show that's gone through the reality show process,

535
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 2: one of the things I think is the most interesting

536
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 2: is how it feels to see yourself edited into a character,

537
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 2: because they do have to do that, and of course

538
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 2: it's you, but it is there are edges they have

539
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 2: to give you depending on what they need season to season.

540
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 2: So leaving Housewives out of it because you move on

541
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 2: from Housewives and now we're going to see you on

542
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 2: the Traders, I wonder about, like what it was like

543
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 2: to I've obviously have that put to you and be like, look,

544
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 2: here's an opportunity to do the Traders. You know, it's

545
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: a fun show, but it's another opportunity for us to

546
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 2: edit you. So can you talk through what the process

547
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 2: was just without even getting into right now what happened

548
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: getting that offer and feeling like, okay, am I engaging? Well?

549
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 3: First I said I do not want to do it. No, no, no, no, no.

550
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: You said no, wow? Why?

551
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 3: Well, because I watched it and I thought it's enjoyable

552
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 3: to watch. I don't want to do it stressful?

553
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: Is that why?

554
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 3: And reality? And really I just was quite ready when

555
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 3: I first when they were first like dangling it, I

556
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 3: was like, I love to watch it, don't want to

557
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 3: do it. Yeah, But then then people started to say,

558
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 3: oh my god, I think you'd be so great on it,

559
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 3: Oh my god, have you really watched it? And I'd

560
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 3: only watched a little bit of it. My agent's my managing.

561
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 3: All those people are like, I think you should do it.

562
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 3: I think it'd be the greatest thing for you, and

563
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 3: here's why, X Y and Z. So I kept getting

564
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 3: a lot of that, a lot of that, and listen

565
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 3: it's not like I don't. I will listen if it

566
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 3: starts to make sense to me and I can start

567
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 3: to go okay, I authentically can understand that. And so

568
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 3: because it's won the Emmy, Alan just won I think

569
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 3: his second Emmy, So you know, I know how that

570
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 3: kind of stuff works. So I'm no dummy to go right.

571
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's different. It's a gameplay too.

572
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 3: And it's a game, and so I did a lot

573
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 3: of talking and research and asking questions, and they were

574
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 3: very open with me at Peacock if you need to

575
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 3: talk to us, you know, because I wasn't sure. What

576
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 3: really made me go, you know what I'm going to do.

577
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 3: It is that it's a game. It's not real. So

578
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 3: you're playing a game, which again in my mind is

579
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 3: like I can be an actor playing a character in

580
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 3: a sense. It doesn't have to be like I'm not

581
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 3: going to go in and be mean to somebody right now.

582
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 3: For real, it's a game.

583
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 2: You might have to be accusational, you might have to

584
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: try a trick someone into saying something, but it's a game.

585
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 3: And I didn't see any cruelness or meanness in a

586
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 3: sense that you can see it in the housewifranchise.

587
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: I didn't see it interesting because then is the gameplay

588
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: taking pressure off of you as an actor? To go

589
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: I don't have to worry about making good TV in

590
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: the same way that I did on Housewives.

591
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 3: Well, you know, unfortunately, I always worry about making I

592
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 3: always think about making that unfortunate.

593
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: That's not unfortunately what I do.

594
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 3: You know, it's in my mind. It isn't unfortunate, but

595
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: that's how my brain works. It's not like I'm trying

596
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 3: to make good TV.

597
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 2: The producing gisation is not correct, but it's just you're

598
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 2: just thinking about how to be entertaining exactly.

599
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 3: Because I'm an entertainer. At the end of the day,

600
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 3: I consider myself an entertainer. Yes, right, yes, that's what

601
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 3: I do. So going in was terrifying. I have to

602
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 3: be honest, it was terrifying because number One, I'm terrible

603
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 3: at playing games. I'm just not a good game player.

604
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: Game night is not your night.

605
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 3: No, I'm good at Uno, that's it, you know, the

606
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 3: Barlow God.

607
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 1: It's a pretty hard game to master.

608
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 3: But yeah, pretty good at Uno. But that's it. So

609
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 3: I'm not a master game player. I'm not a gamer,

610
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: which is usually the show's very stacked with gamers, and

611
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 3: those gamers know how to game man.

612
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: And this season, this upcoming season, you look at the

613
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 2: cast like they did pick some fearsome Survivor winners.

614
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 3: Of Survivor, like big time winners of Big Brother. So

615
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 3: I think that is the part that scared me. It

616
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: was like, I'm going to suck, but okay, why not,

617
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 3: Let's go try it. And again, I always think, if

618
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 3: you can get a good piece of real estate on television,

619
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 3: take it, take it, you take it. And that's what

620
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 3: Lisa Renna thinks, like this was a great piece of

621
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 3: real estate offered to me, take it or leave it,

622
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 3: and I took it. That's basically it, because I know

623
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 3: I can I can do something with good real estate.

624
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 3: I can't do that much with shitty real estate, but

625
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 3: I can do something with good real estate.

626
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 2: Of course, it's an investment. And honestly, you must have

627
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: known Alan, right, you knows.

628
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 3: No, I am so obsessed with him, talk about the

629
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 3: most professional, most awesome performer shows up, does his job

630
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 3: on time like wow, yeah, he's well yeah, and he

631
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 3: produces it also it matters to him. Yes, I can't

632
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: talk much about it. I love to but I was

633
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 3: so impressed with him. I don't even know if I

634
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 3: can say this, but I'm going to say it. Yeah,

635
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 3: when we do the round table, Sure, when Alan comes

636
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: in and it's such a big deal and they pipe

637
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 3: it all up and they get you all going, he

638
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 3: stands in the back the entire time, just standing there.

639
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: You don't see him on camera, but sometimes that goes

640
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 3: on for an hour, an hour and a half, he's

641
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 3: standing there listening.

642
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: I thought that was, well, it's pretty amazing, you know

643
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: what I mean.

644
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 2: Like, I think he probably takes it seriously as the

645
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 2: performer because it's he knows it's his job too. He's

646
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: the master of ceremonies and to speak, not dissimilar to

647
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 2: his iconic role as the MC and cabaret.

648
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: He knows what it means to set tone.

649
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 3: Oh and does he set that tone? Honey? And I

650
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 3: think you had to. I felt that you have to

651
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,959
Speaker 3: rise to that occasion also in your own way, like

652
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 3: everyone brings their own thing to it. And that is

653
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 3: what was exciting.

654
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: I thought, I think you hearing you talk about him,

655
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: you would be an incredible host of a show like that.

656
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 3: Would be fun. It would be fun. Now that I've

657
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 3: watched great a great host do it. Yeah, because boy

658
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 3: does he deserve those emmys.

659
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,479
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely. And you're in the drag Race family.

660
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 3: Yeah you guessed that four three three on Logo.

661
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: On Love.

662
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: I miss I missed her being a lube commercial, right,

663
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like there, it used to

664
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: really be for the community.

665
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 3: I mean at the time, nobody knew what.

666
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: It was exactly.

667
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 3: And of course I was like, you bet, you'll do it.

668
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: I'll go to the competition.

669
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 3: Ever, but I'd never seen like it.

670
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: Same thing though real Estate Prime real Estate on TV

671
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: and like you you will do good with that real estate,

672
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: no matter, and like that must mean that you thought

673
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: our little show was the same.

674
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 3: I knew it. Very honored, of course I knew it.

675
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 3: Look at it's the two of you.

676
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: Stop, It's true.

677
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 3: I'm no dummy that way. I know those things.

678
00:31:59,640 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: You know.

679
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: Oh quickly. I have to say I caught up with

680
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: Eric Noam recently and he said that he had a

681
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: fabulous time. He really likes you. How has Lisa? He said,

682
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: Lisa's very good and he was very tight lipped about

683
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: it as well. You gotta be that's part of it.

684
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: Like whenever so.

685
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 3: I adore him.

686
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: He's wonders.

687
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 3: I adored everybody actually good like everybody it.

688
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: Did, but he was the show like a good cast

689
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 2: because even the housewives they had chosen. I got really

690
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: excited because there's been a couple of housewives that I've

691
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 2: been saying for a while would be really good. You've

692
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: been one of them. Candace was one of them. Love

693
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 2: Candace Love. Just like there was a really good vibe

694
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: and energy around it. But I just wanted to ask,

695
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: because another big opportunity with this show is the fashion

696
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: and now you are you are, you know, an icon

697
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: in this regard. So how long were you planning looks?

698
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: How long did you have to plan looks?

699
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: You have?

700
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 3: I had a while. I had a while. I thought

701
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 3: about it for a long time because I, okay, you

702
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 3: got Alan. Yeah, Alan is the king of the looks.

703
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: Absolutely he is.

704
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 3: He's it. Yeah, So I thought long and hard about it.

705
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 3: I could have brought fashion Renna in, I could have

706
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 3: brought Cotur Renna, and I could have brought all of that.

707
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: Didn't bring any of that in. Okay, Well, you're gonna

708
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 3: have to wait and see. You're gonna have to wait

709
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 3: and see. It's like a vibe that I put together

710
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 3: or that we put together that just felt like it worked.

711
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 3: We had a fitting and we just tried all this

712
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 3: stuff on and we just created outfits and we created

713
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 3: a vibe. There is a trader's vibe. It's nothing that

714
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 3: you've ever seen.

715
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 2: Oh that's so exciting. I mean, so I have to

716
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: imagine that you and your stylists. It must be the

717
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: most fun.

718
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 3: It is. It's the most fun. I love fashion and

719
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 3: expressing myself that way more than anything besides acting. Because

720
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 3: I can play characters. I can have so much fun.

721
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 3: And I'm not afraid. I'm really not afraid in fashion,

722
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 3: and I don't know where that comes from. I really

723
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 3: don't know why. I take the risks that I do

724
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 3: much more than most women would do, especially even most

725
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 3: women at my age. They just don't. They do the

726
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 3: same thing different. Well, they're afraid, right, It's just it's fear.

727
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 3: It's safer to like stay in your safe, you know. Lane,

728
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, fuck that. I want to just blow it

729
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 3: out of the water. I want to do everything, and

730
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 3: I've had the time of my life, so it's fun.

731
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 3: Every time. It's different. It's just different. Every time you.

732
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: So much like that in high school?

733
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 2: Like what like what what was your what was your

734
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 2: like sartorial vibe in like high school and being a

735
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: young person.

736
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: I wanted so badly to be that in high school.

737
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 3: But I grew up in a very very small town

738
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 3: in mer Medford, Oregon, and I was vilified for doing

739
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 3: it like I did at one time, and I was

740
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 3: so bullied that I was scared to death to do

741
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 3: it again. So I went back to like my you know,

742
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 3: short shorts, and.

743
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: Do you remember what it was?

744
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: You were exactly I know exactly what was it? I

745
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 3: got my first Fogue magazine at sixteen. I forget who

746
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: was on the cover. I should remember that, but there

747
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 3: was a picture inside a girl wearing a sweater dress,

748
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 3: a burgundy sweater dress, buttons down the back. I don't

749
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 3: think anyone had ever seen that. Sure, brown suede pumps. Yeah,

750
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: back in nineteen you guys, I wore that. It went

751
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 3: down to San Francisco, we went shopping. I literally found

752
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 3: that outfit. I wore it, and no, ma'am uh huh

753
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 3: never again.

754
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: So they were threatened, well, they were scared.

755
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 3: They didn't know I look like her freak to.

756
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: That because if she's rolling the dice, I might have

757
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 2: to roll the dice and I'm not ready to.

758
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: Oh.

759
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 3: No, whatever it was, it was too soon, too early,

760
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 3: too much, But it started then, it started even maybe

761
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 3: before that, I think.

762
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 2: So then you withdraw I withdrew safe. At what point

763
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: do you venture back out?

764
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 3: Well, let's see, not too far, not too far from now.

765
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 3: I mean it hasn't been that, you know, think about

766
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 3: it Housewives. I was still pretty safe in Housewives. I

767
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 3: started with the wigs and wearing some.

768
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 1: While you were on it. It did start to become

769
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: We're bringing glam on vacation.

770
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 3: Well, Erica Jane showed up definitely. Once Eric showed up,

771
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 3: we were like, oh. And then to Reach shows up

772
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 3: and we were like.

773
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't.

774
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 3: They forced us, and they forced all of us to

775
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 3: step up. That's when it happened.

776
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: It affected all the franchises. It did.

777
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 3: It really did. So then my eyes opened up and

778
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 3: I thought, oh, and then I started wearing wig and

779
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 3: then forget it. Then it was just like, this is

780
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 3: way more fun than doing the same thing I've always done.

781
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 2: You have one of the best spaces for wigs. Ever

782
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 2: you think you transformed. I'm always going to be on

783
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: record saying one of the worst because it's still me.

784
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 2: I think you can still tell that it's me.

785
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 3: It works though, really well.

786
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: Wearing a wig, and especially a mustache, is it must

787
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 2: mustache transforms me? You become sort of domb top bowe,

788
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: which we all appreciate.

789
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 3: Wait say that again, dumb dom top bow domb top bowing.

790
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: I get it.

791
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 3: I got it now, Wow, I just flow it down.

792
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: Is really but basically like the wig of it all, like,

793
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: does it.

794
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 3: Looks it looks when you when you look like that?

795
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: Does it change you lightly? But I'm saying there is

796
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: something transformative.

797
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 3: It's true. I agree, I agree. I look at myself

798
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 3: like who is that which I love? I love because

799
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 3: I want to be more than one, Lisa Rena, there

800
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 3: should be many, and there are, like they're all over

801
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 3: the place. You can pick which one you want.

802
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: An eminem for cristisake exactly. Well, speaking of characters.

803
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: We we were so excited when we found out, Uh,

804
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 2: the culture that made you say culture was for you

805
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: was we found out in advance this time. So now

806
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 2: we'll put it to you and we'll get into it.

807
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: At least Rina, what was the culture that made you

808
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: say culture was for.

809
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 3: You dynasty and it's such a perfectnast dynasty.

810
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 2: Can I say that answer ties together everything about you,

811
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 2: all of it?

812
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 3: Okay, there you go, there.

813
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: You go right there? Do you know what I mean?

814
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 3: I do? I absolutely do. That changed my life.

815
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 2: So fashion like being a like housewife and quote unquote

816
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: fighting yep.

817
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,959
Speaker 3: Crab, you know, cat fighting, all of it. Who knew

818
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 3: that that was going to even be my destiny when

819
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 3: I was watching it? But think about it.

820
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: But to talk us through the encounter with it at first,

821
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: whatever memories you have of just like tuning into that show, I.

822
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 3: Remember it was so life altering coming from the small

823
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 3: town in Medford, Oregon and seeing these iconic women, the

824
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 3: Glamor Crystal and Alexa, Alexis, Alexis, I was gonna say,

825
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 3: like such a christ come on. It was just so

826
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 3: visually exciting and then what they got to do and

827
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 3: the emotions and everything they were as women. We'd never

828
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 3: seen anything like it.

829
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: Of course, it felt like this like operatic thing where

830
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 2: you have an Alexis standing on a balcony and like

831
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 2: showing the fucking documents, you know, or was like Alexis

832
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: and the documents, the documents or Alexis and Diane Carroll

833
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 2: like saying Champagne has burnt like it's so.

834
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,959
Speaker 3: And the outfits, the clam like we had never seen

835
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 3: anything like it, and it embodied such fabulousness that it

836
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 3: was an escape, it was a challenge, it was it

837
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 3: was life.

838
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: And you knew it was a heightened reality that it

839
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: was not on this planet. Because I'm gonna say, as

840
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: someone who grew up there, it took place in in Denver.

841
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 3: That's right, because it took place in Denver.

842
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 1: No one in Denver looked like that, no one. But

843
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: here's what I'll say.

844
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 2: When you don't know, you believe it. You believe when

845
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 2: they said in Denver. Because I'm from Long Island. I

846
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: didn't know anything about Denver really until we met. You

847
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: just bought that as a glamorous place. I think because

848
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 2: you see the mountains in your mind's eye, you know

849
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: what I mean.

850
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: It's like they sort of think of it as colorad, right.

851
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 3: And if you thought Aspen, we didn't even know what

852
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 3: Aspen was after.

853
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: Wasn't as that I would have believed to get a

854
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: lot of real estate from.

855
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 2: I think people not knowing the difference between Denver and aspect.

856
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 3: I think so too, and leave it to Aaron Spelling.

857
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 3: I mean, really, come on, look what he's given us.

858
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: But so then, like when you and I just keep

859
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: going back to this quote because I think it is

860
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: really defining for you in a way that is powerful.

861
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: Like when you when you think of making good TV,

862
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: like that's what you think of, you think of Dynasty

863
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: because that is the formative television and it's.

864
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 3: Also what I want to see. I think, yes, you know,

865
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,959
Speaker 3: deep down I want to see another Dynasty, Like that's

866
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 3: the escapism that I think. If Housewives can get back

867
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: to that, it's it's become a little bit meet Sure.

868
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 2: Well, do you know when it got closest in them

869
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: in recent memory? And we talk about this scene all

870
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 2: the time is when you and Denise sat down at

871
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 2: the end of that season.

872
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: And I know this was a.

873
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: Tough season, and I know that, like this is probably

874
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: a relationship that was meaningful to you at one point

875
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 2: and that makes it hard. But you guys really knew

876
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 2: what your assignment was when you sat down on that

877
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: couch and she said you're playing dirty and you said, ooh,

878
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: you're so angry. I mean, just the two of you

879
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 2: were were you were doing that and as yours.

880
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 3: It's true, Yeah, that.

881
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 2: Must have been a weird thing because it's like, here

882
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 2: you are and she's obviously, like you know, has a

883
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 2: storied career in her own right, and like came from

884
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,479
Speaker 2: you know, similar projects, and then you're both on this show.

885
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: It's a different five is a different flame. But you're

886
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 2: sitting there and you're on this couch and you guys

887
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: are both looking incredible and you're looking at each other

888
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 2: in the eyes, and you're doing this chess game, and

889
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 2: so it's like you're getting to actualize this thing.

890
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: But it's also.

891
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 4: Personal exactly, which made it so difficult, complicated, super complicated.

892
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 3: It's one thing, if you're playing a character, you can

893
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: go home. I was home, so I.

894
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: Was.

895
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 3: But you know that's what was so complicated. And that

896
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 3: scene went on for good two and a half hours.

897
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 3: You saw how much of it. Yeah, I don't even know,

898
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 3: really really complicated. You know, I wouldn't I wouldn't wish

899
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 3: working with any of my friends again, Yeah, in a

900
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 3: situation like that, right, because I don't think it behooves anyone,

901
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 3: It didn't serve any of us, right, I don't think ultimately, Ultimately, no,

902
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 3: it's better if you don't know people. Yes, of course

903
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 3: they want you to know people. So I feel that

904
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,240
Speaker 3: that's sad that we get into that situation on that show.

905
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 3: And again I go to, you know, I know how

906
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 3: to make a good show, and and that's my I'm

907
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 3: going to do that. Yeah, And then if your friendship

908
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 3: gets in the way of that, which you've seen mine

909
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 3: has a few times, it's just really sad, you know,

910
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 3: at the end of the day.

911
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: I mean, this is where like the boundaries start to

912
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: you know, be so undefined. But the corollary to that

913
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: is that you are able to have this beautiful, loving,

914
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: wonderfully collaborative relationship with Harry now a podcast like yeah, yeah,

915
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: but that's that's how you know, Like it's yeah, there's

916
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: no mechanism that's like flawed within you. It's like, you

917
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: know how to have a meaningful, loving relationship with something

918
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: that you work with, Yes, with Harry.

919
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 3: Yes, And it's just it's it's disappointing when that doesn't

920
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 3: work out. But that's life, baby, you know, sometimes it doesn't.

921
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 5: Sometimes it doesn't, And and you can never be in

922
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 5: someone's head like I always sometimes think like, oh, I

923
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 5: wonder if they walked away from that scene thinking well,

924
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 5: we just know that even though whatever, but.

925
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 4: Like, oh, it definitely wasn't that well and then and

926
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 4: then over time things reveal themselves and it's like you

927
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 4: never really do know what people are going through, which

928
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 4: is you know, a sad reality about all of that.

929
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, truly.

930
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: What I love about you and Harry's relationship is that

931
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: it feels incredibly authentic through the screen and now also

932
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 2: on the podcast because on the podcast you can just listen.

933
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 2: I listened to the episode when you had just come

934
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 2: back from from Traders, and I was like listening, and

935
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know this to be true,

936
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 2: but I was like, I bet she's not telling him

937
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 2: what happened in like even behind closed doors.

938
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 3: Oh not. At that point, he hadn't heard anything like

939
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 3: you have to be careful too, like how much because

940
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 3: he watches it also because he doesn't want to hear

941
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 3: about everything. Yeah, And it also doesn't translate. Yeah, it

942
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 3: doesn't translate very well when you're not there, when your

943
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 3: partner's not there and you've gone through a really intense experience.

944
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 3: Because it's intense. I think anybody that you talk to

945
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 3: that's gone.

946
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: It was the hardest thing you've done.

947
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 3: You believe that it's challenging. Yeah, it's super, super, super challenging.

948
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 2: I would say for me, I feel like The Traders

949
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: is like it's going to be so exciting and I'm

950
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 2: just like so excited for it. But just to talk

951
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,479
Speaker 2: about the podcast a little bit more, because I really

952
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 2: do feel like you and Harry are like such a

953
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 2: stand the test of time thing. And what I really

954
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: love about you guys is it does feel like, still

955
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 2: to this day, you're like into each other.

956
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say we are. I would say after

957
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 3: thirty three years, it's not crazy.

958
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 1: Always was it? What was it? What was the vibe

959
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: at first? Because he's Harry Hamler.

960
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 3: I mean he's Harry Hamlin. He was Harry Hamlin at first,

961
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 3: and I was I was just starting and so I

962
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 3: was a little bit starstruck. Huh when I first met him. Well,

963
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 3: of course, you know, it was like it's Harry Hamlin.

964
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 2: I think people in our generation don't really ununderstand that

965
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 2: he was a big deal.

966
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: He was like a brad pitt Ish.

967
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was, you know, on a huge

968
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 3: show that was watched by thirty million people. You know,

969
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 3: La Long was watched by thirty million people. There are

970
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 3: three networks at the time, so it was this huge show.

971
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: He'd been the sexiest man alive, he'd been in Clash

972
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 3: of the Titans. He was really a big deal. And

973
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 3: I was just like, oh no, no, no, I just

974
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 3: didn't even see myself in that position at all. So

975
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 3: it took a minute. And he had just been divorced.

976
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 3: It's just getting divorced, so that's not a real like

977
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 3: ooh yeah, I want.

978
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: That, sure, sure, So then cared about was like the

979
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 1: initial sort of like the courtship.

980
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 3: The courtship, well, it was all fucked up really. That's

981
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 3: why it's so interesting that we ended up staying together

982
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 3: because it wasn't like love at first sight. It wasn't

983
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 3: like it was complicated. It was fraught and it took time.

984
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 3: I mean, we didn't get married for five and a

985
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 3: half years.

986
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 2: Now. Was that because it was it was happening at

987
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 2: a bizarre time in Hollywood. Is this like small town

988
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 2: is like? Is No?

989
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 3: It was just he was fucked up by his marriage.

990
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 3: He s gotten out of it. Timing wasn't great and

991
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 3: he'd been married twice, you didn't want to get married again. Like,

992
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 3: I wasn't the stereotypical mother archetype that he usually would

993
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 3: go for. So at first he was like, well, you're

994
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 3: not what I'm used to. So it was challenging. We

995
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 3: did not come right together. We fell in love. It

996
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 3: took time we became friends first, Like he tried to

997
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 3: get me to go to Aspen for Christmas and I

998
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 3: said no, I was.

999
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: Like, too serious.

1000
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 3: I don't know you. I'm going to go home to

1001
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 3: my parents in Oregon. Most women would go to Aspen.

1002
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 3: Like could have been good for me in a sense. Maybe,

1003
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 3: I don't know, but it was authentic to me. It

1004
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 3: was just like, ew, I don't really know this guy.

1005
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 3: I mean, he was cute, he's gorgeous, but yet I

1006
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 3: was leary. At first. I was literally he drove.

1007
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: A Porsche yeah, yeah, and he was a little.

1008
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 3: Too likes maybe well, he was slick and he was

1009
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 3: gorgeously and he was a big star at the time,

1010
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 3: and I just wasn't used to it. I was just like,

1011
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 3: I don't know. And then I got to know him.

1012
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 3: He called me every day for two weeks while he

1013
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 3: was an Aspen Wow, And that's when I got to

1014
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 3: know him and thought, it's a really good guy.

1015
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: I guess this is what we're asking, like, yeah, you know,

1016
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: the beginnings of it obviously tumultuous. But when you're talking

1017
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: about then we fell in love, what was that like?

1018
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: It was the calling every day from asspan, Like, like,

1019
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,919
Speaker 1: how did you get to know each other? Because that's

1020
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: what that's what like laid the foundation for all that.

1021
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 3: That's it talking on the phone because we didn't have

1022
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 3: anything else. You just had the phone. Yeah, there's no

1023
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 3: cell phones, there's none of that. You just talked. We

1024
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 3: would call me and we would talk, and we got

1025
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 3: to know each other over a two week period. I

1026
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 3: think he called every day, God love him.

1027
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1028
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 3: And then when he came back, I said, he asked

1029
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 3: me out to dinner, and I said yes, And then

1030
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 3: it just blossomed from there because there was a sense

1031
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 3: of connection over I like who you are, and I

1032
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 3: think you felt the same about me. You'd have to

1033
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 3: ask him, and so it blossomed from that. Now, Yes,

1034
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 3: he's always been hot, and that's always helpful. When you

1035
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 3: have two people that two people that are attracted physically,

1036
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 3: it's helpful because down the line, you know, that's the

1037
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 3: first thing you start to devalue people. That's what happens

1038
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 3: in a relationship. It's very easy to do. They bug me,

1039
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 3: this is you know, and so we're very cognizant of that. Also,

1040
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 3: like if that starts to feel like it's happening, we'll

1041
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 3: go to therapy. I feel like we work on it

1042
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 3: because it's not easy.

1043
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: Do you do therapy as like upkeep or do you

1044
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: do regular therapy?

1045
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 3: Both depending, Like right now we're in therapy because I

1046
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,479
Speaker 3: just feel we both were like, let's do it right now.

1047
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 3: We've kind of grown in separate directions doing a lot

1048
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 3: of things. We need to come back together.

1049
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: Yep, yep.

1050
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 3: So helpful and I'm not afraid to do that.

1051
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would imagine too that.

1052
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 2: It's also like when your kids not only grow up,

1053
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 2: have become super successful and busy, like then.

1054
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 3: You're empty nesters.

1055
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: Do not only.

1056
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 2: Empty nesters, but also like empty nesters and like what

1057
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 2: they're doing it?

1058
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 3: Yeah they are, they're doing it. Thank God, they're out

1059
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 3: there doing it major way they are, And we're so proud.

1060
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 3: I mean, it's you know, listen, that's what we are

1061
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 3: the most proud of is that I think that whatever

1062
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 3: we did, because you know, as a parent, you don't

1063
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 3: know what you're doing, You really don't. You just do

1064
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 3: the best you can to be there for your children

1065
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 3: and give them the best upbringing that you can. But

1066
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 3: you don't. I mean, come on, our parents who knew

1067
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 3: what they were doing. Seriously, like, we're all lucky to

1068
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 3: still be alive, and.

1069
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 2: God love you do realize that at some point, I think,

1070
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 2: now I'm my dad's age when he had me, and

1071
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 2: I was like, that's interesting thinking about myself having a

1072
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 2: kid right now, and that's like you know of someone

1073
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 2: that I it's it's.

1074
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 3: Think about it, like, God love them, God bless them,

1075
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 3: and God loved them. And then listen, we have to

1076
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 3: figure out what happened to us, and then God forbid

1077
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 3: what those poor kids are going to have to go

1078
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 3: through in their own therapy. How we have, you know,

1079
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 3: helped them, but how also we have given them you know,

1080
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 3: bad habits. Who knows it happens with everybody, but both

1081
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 3: of us, Harry and myself, feel that whatever we did,

1082
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 3: because we really don't know what we did, we turned

1083
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 3: out some good humans, good human beings, kind, compassionate, good girls.

1084
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 3: And I'm very proud of that.

1085
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: They do. They remain really close.

1086
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 3: They do now, they weren't for a minute. Those girls

1087
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,760
Speaker 3: can fight, you know, girls can love and then hate

1088
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 3: each other.

1089
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: Difference again three years. Yeah, it's just that Goldilocks zone

1090
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: where like they love each they love each other forever.

1091
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 3: But also, oh we went through a couple of years

1092
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 3: and woo, yeah, very uncomfortable. But now they're very close,

1093
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 3: back together with their sisters, you know what I mean,

1094
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 3: but super supportive of each other in this business that

1095
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 3: they're both in, which can be very tricky.

1096
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: Is it still very very competitive?

1097
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 3: Yes, more than ever.

1098
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: I just I guess I never really That world is

1099
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: still in no foreign Yeah.

1100
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 3: Well it's foreign to me too, to be honest with you. Well,

1101
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 3: I love it and I just jumped right into it,

1102
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 3: of course to kind of watch it all and manage

1103
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 3: it all. And but I don't know that world. It's

1104
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 3: a vicious world, actually vicious. And it's about how you look, honey, periodiod.

1105
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, it is about

1106
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 3: who you are. It is about your personality. It is

1107
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 3: how you work with people and how well you work

1108
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 3: with people. Because if you're to choose from you know,

1109
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 3: ten gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous women. Do you want to work

1110
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 3: with a cunt? I don't know if I can say that,

1111
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 3: but I just like, do you want to work with

1112
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 3: a cunt? Or do you want to work with somebody

1113
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 3: who's really cool and game and kind?

1114
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 2: You go so and sometimes it's funny too, like when

1115
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: you real like I've been watching there's the new documentary

1116
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 2: on HBO Max about supermodels, and which one if there's

1117
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 2: one with Isabella Rossalini actually might have not seen that.

1118
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: A polinea porscope I believe is on it. It's got

1119
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 1: Jerry Hall.

1120
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good, it's and it's really it's it's talking

1121
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 2: a lot about the aesthetic changing. Like it's like from

1122
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: from when modeling kind of started, like in the forties

1123
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 2: when it was really just like women, you know, trying

1124
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 2: on clothes just so, and then it became more about

1125
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 2: like attitude, energy.

1126
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: The lifestyle.

1127
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 2: Yes, individuality in terms of the way you present the clothing,

1128
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 2: which leads into you know, the Victoria's secret of it

1129
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 2: all and like the et cetera. But it's just really

1130
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 2: interesting how personality, you know, like with Naomi Campbell, she

1131
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 2: has her reputation as being someone that's like always late,

1132
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 2: a diva, gonna throw something, But then it can't really

1133
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 2: be true because she's had the most last.

1134
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 1: In career of almost anyone all the entertainment industry.

1135
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 3: Right, I know. So it's like, I know, it's really

1136
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 3: interesting to watch, I have to say.

1137
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 2: But I think for you, you get to enter this

1138
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 2: space with ease, I would say, because you have a

1139
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 2: point of view already. And the reason we all have

1140
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 2: fashion as actors is because you are playing a character.

1141
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 3: Again, not all the.

1142
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: Models understand that. You have to find a way in

1143
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: that way. Yes, it might not be playing a character,

1144
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 1: but you already have a built in mechanism and be like,

1145
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put the clothes on, I'm gonna be someone else.

1146
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be Petro Pascal and to protect you, you

1147
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 1: know what I mean?

1148
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 2: That was your favorite of the looks to wear at

1149
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 2: the Cultural Awards.

1150
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 3: So hard to choose because I loved every single one

1151
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 3: of them.

1152
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: Besides that, you want what was that? What was that?

1153
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: Was that? Archivalrell the carpet.

1154
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 3: I did some random it's it's a name. I couldn't

1155
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 3: even tell you right now. Stunning, It's so fun, right,

1156
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 3: scup really was on the red carpet. I love it.

1157
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 3: I think Pedro was my favorite at the end of

1158
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,760
Speaker 3: the day, I do. I mean I love Timothy also

1159
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 3: because it was so fun to embody the vibe that

1160
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 3: I thought was him. I had so much fun. I

1161
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 3: went for it.

1162
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: I did.

1163
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm going to be these characters. It

1164
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 3: was so funny backstage getting ready because I was very particular.

1165
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 3: It had to look a certain way, and they wanted

1166
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 3: to throw like this kind of strange Gautier on me,

1167
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 3: and I was like, no, it's not right. And so

1168
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 3: I ended up drawing on the one for Timothy because

1169
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 3: the one because his was pretty sparse, and the one

1170
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 3: they had it was sick. And I was like no, no, no,

1171
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 3: no no, And the makeup boarders didn't want to hand

1172
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 3: me the pencil and I was like, no, you have

1173
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 3: to just let me do it. And I just did it.

1174
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 3: And then it worked out. I had to do it.

1175
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 3: The right had to be perfect.

1176
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: Well, you have to be you to subconsciously feel comfortable.

1177
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 3: That's right, otherwise you can't come out as fully as

1178
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 3: you did.

1179
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 2: I remember like we were we were like putting it

1180
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 2: together and It was in the script that the first

1181
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 2: one was gonna be Demean Moore's yellow coat and the substance,

1182
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 2: And I remember you came out looking so exactly like her.

1183
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 2: I was like, is this the right first one? Because

1184
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 2: it looks like to me? I was like, are people

1185
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 2: going to know that's Lisa Renna?

1186
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 3: That's right there?

1187
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 1: That I was like, I was like, is it.

1188
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 2: Should we switch it because or should we have it

1189
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 2: come out like so that people can really establish because

1190
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 2: the culture rewards just so I say this with love

1191
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 2: for us. It's so dumb that like it's like it's

1192
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 2: anything could have been, anything, could have.

1193
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: Been at any Yeah, I was like, are people going

1194
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: to think that's to me? Because it looks like to me? Right?

1195
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 2: But then like, honestly, I'm so happy because it landed her.

1196
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 3: It just worked.

1197
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I didn't established what the joke was

1198
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: it did.

1199
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 3: It just worked?

1200
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1201
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 3: And you know it's funny because I didn't know what

1202
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 3: I was going to be doing, right, And then I

1203
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 3: went to go do Traders, and.

1204
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: Then I come back from Traders.

1205
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 3: I'd just come back, and when i'd come back, they

1206
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 3: told me what I was doing. So when I went

1207
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 3: I knew I was going to be doing, but I

1208
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 3: didn't know till I came back, and I'll never forget

1209
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 3: getting the visuals and screaming out loud. I was so excited.

1210
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 3: It was like one of the first things. I was like,

1211
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 3: this is like a dream country. I loved it so much.

1212
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 3: And of course Tom was the first image.

1213
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: It was actually, did you do you know? You must do?

1214
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: You know? To me, I know her?

1215
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean I don't know her. I know she did.

1216
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 3: Come on, when that happens, you go, okay.

1217
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank god And Pedro commented on the patre One too.

1218
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: I certainly did he did.

1219
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 2: It was such a thrill waiting for comment from timoth Ay.

1220
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 3: This was freedom, honey. I could just go and play.

1221
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1222
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: I will say. The only thing that was cut out

1223
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 1: after some pushback was you and the Pedro outfit kissing

1224
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: Andy Cohen, and that was the special moment that we

1225
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,439
Speaker 1: got on camera about. Unfortunately we had to lose from

1226
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: from the broadcast. I know, but it was a very

1227
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: important it was to be there. I know, at the

1228
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: end of the.

1229
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 3: Day, everything happens for a reason, and at the end

1230
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 3: of the day I was okay with it all. Because

1231
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 3: I did it there we had that moment. It was

1232
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 3: kind of a nice power play switch that I came

1233
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 3: up with at the very I don't even know how

1234
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 3: I came up with that at the last minute. We're

1235
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 3: I mean, we're good, you know, I mean we're I've

1236
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 3: been good with Andy. I'm good, You're good, and then

1237
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 3: you're you know, you're not good, and you're good. I've

1238
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 3: always been pretty good with Andy, Like, I'm not afraid

1239
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 3: to say, you know what, I didn't like that you

1240
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 3: just said that to me on your sure on your

1241
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 3: show that we just did on your radio show, and

1242
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 3: he'll be like, oh, I thought you really liked that,

1243
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 3: and I was like, no, I didn't, and here's why.

1244
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 3: Or he'll say to me something criticism and I'll take

1245
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 3: it and I'll be like, you know, you're right. So

1246
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 3: we have that relationship.

1247
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: Conflict and resolution. But that's something that you learned from

1248
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: the show. I certainly did, and that's something that you

1249
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: can both handle as adults.

1250
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 3: I think so and Andy and I I think always

1251
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 3: have been in on the joke in a sense. I

1252
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 3: have respect for him, and I think he has respect

1253
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 3: for me, and so we have that mutual respect that

1254
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 3: over that pre succeeds or what's the.

1255
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: Word of seeds or supersede, superceeds.

1256
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 3: That's the word supersedes all the bullshit because the rest

1257
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 3: of it's all bullshit. At the end of the day, anyway.

1258
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: It's a long life, you know what I mean.

1259
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 3: It's like it is you're going to.

1260
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: See him at like your daughter's wedding or something. Well,

1261
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: if he's lucky.

1262
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 2: I feel like, but I also feel like the thing,

1263
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 2: the thing, the thing with like your relationship with him too,

1264
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 2: and like and I feel like you you and like

1265
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 2: the whole Housewives of it all, which is why the

1266
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 2: Bravo thing with the Culture Awards felt so good, is

1267
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 2: because it does feel like you're done with all of that,

1268
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 2: and it feels like something that's like in your past

1269
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 2: is a completed thing at least being a housewife or yeah,

1270
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 2: you know. And I feel like there's this, oftentimes this

1271
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 2: idea from the fan community which is like, oh, they

1272
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 2: want to come back, or they must want to come back,

1273
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 2: like like as if it can't be a.

1274
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: Conscious choice to leave that show.

1275
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 2: But I feel like with you, you've shown that, like

1276
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 2: and obviously from being such an industry figure for such

1277
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 2: a long time, like this was a chapter.

1278
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: It had its ups.

1279
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 2: And downs, and that is going to be what it is,

1280
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 2: and it's learned from and now you're moving forward. And

1281
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of the fan community almost

1282
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 2: doesn't know what to do with the fact that someone

1283
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,439
Speaker 2: might not want to come back and be a real house.

1284
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 3: It's true. And you know, I have great affection even

1285
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 3: though it's a difficult show to do. I have great

1286
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 3: affection for those eight years and what it brought to

1287
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 3: me and what it brought to my career and how now,

1288
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 3: which is very interesting, I'm doing like endorsements and things

1289
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 3: that have to do with the things that I said

1290
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 3: on that show, right that became moments. So I'm like,

1291
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 3: thank you, wow, Kachin Kuching. Like it just keeps moving

1292
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 3: on because people enjoyed that, they like those moments, they

1293
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 3: get a kick out of it, they're entertained by it.

1294
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 3: So at the end of the day, it was a

1295
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 3: great thing.

1296
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: It was the investment, it was the real estate. You

1297
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: took your time in that lot, you.

1298
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 2: Know what I mean.

1299
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it runs its course I think for everyone,

1300
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 3: and it's kind of you know, it's gonna they'll come

1301
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 3: a day for everyone, even for Kyle Richards. Do you

1302
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 3: know what I mean? When you've been on from the

1303
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 3: beginning where you have to make the decision do I

1304
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 3: continue or do I take a risk and go out there.

1305
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 3: It's very hard for most housewives to do that, you know,

1306
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 3: because it is a steady gig.

1307
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing too, is its works a check structure.

1308
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 1: I know what my fall is going to look like

1309
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,479
Speaker 1: because I've been doing this right and.

1310
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 3: There's something really comforting and also challenging if you've been

1311
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 3: doing it for a long time, you know, to get

1312
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 3: excited about it. But at the end of the day,

1313
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 3: I wouldn't change a thing. I wouldn't I wouldn't change

1314
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 3: a thing. I would do it again. Oh, I wouldn't

1315
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,439
Speaker 3: do it again right now, you know what I mean?

1316
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 3: Like it's part of my history, it's part of just

1317
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 3: like Veronica Mars, just like melrose Place and days of

1318
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 3: our lives. Like everything I've done has brought me here,

1319
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 3: and it's exciting to see what's next.

1320
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 2: You know.

1321
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 1: We're talking about this with our other guests, but it's

1322
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 1: like the through line comes into view after the fact,

1323
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: which is always weird.

1324
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 3: Really does isn't it true?

1325
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: Dynasty is like the perfect origin spot for you where

1326
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 1: it all connects to everything that comes after. I will say,

1327
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: just before we do it on things soony, I will

1328
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 1: bring it back to our first meeting, which was I

1329
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: was in We mussed. It was intermission for Sweeney Todd.

1330
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 3: I remember like it was yesterday.

1331
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: Waiting for my friend Hunter, and I was just like

1332
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 1: on my phone, just like downstairs in the bathroom, waiting

1333
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: in line.

1334
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 3: We were in the line where I'd come out of

1335
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 3: the bathroom.

1336
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: I was waiting and then you had come out of

1337
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: the bathroom. And then and then I get to tap

1338
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: on my shoulder and I look up and I go

1339
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, it's someone maybe wanting a picture

1340
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 1: or something. I look up and my jaw dropped. It

1341
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: was Lisa looking so chic and a Prada bucket house,

1342
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: big shades, huge covered shades, looking studing.

1343
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 3: Oh my god, no, I was Lily like, dressed down,

1344
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 3: I'm going to the theater, you know, bringing Prada.

1345
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 1: You're dressed down with wearing Prada. And I was like, oh,

1346
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: I'm just such a fan.

1347
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 3: And I just.

1348
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 1: I remember it like it was yesterday, and anyway, it

1349
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: was just to see.

1350
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 3: You and to meet you in person. I'm such a

1351
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 3: huge fan. Are you kidding your genius?

1352
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 1: Stop? At least you are stop.

1353
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,439
Speaker 3: I was so I was like, oh my god, I'm

1354
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 3: meeting the Oh my god. So we had the same moment.

1355
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: We had the same moment, and so I wanted to

1356
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 1: because you're a fan of theater. I love it, love it,

1357
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: love it. I think we got to see you back

1358
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 1: on the boards against them. Yeah, can we see you

1359
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 1: back on the boards.

1360
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 3: Yeah? You know what I thought of the other day.

1361
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 3: I'm not sure I could do it. I'm not sure

1362
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 3: it would even be in my capacity at this point.

1363
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 3: But you know what came up? The MC in Cabaret,

1364
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 3: which is usually played by a man.

1365
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 1: A man. How did it come up? I don't know.

1366
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 3: It just popped into my head.

1367
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: Oh, that it would be cool for you to do.

1368
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 2: Someone was talking about like the different ways in which

1369
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 2: you can take that role, and someone said that it

1370
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 2: wouldn't be out of a question for the for a

1371
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 2: woman to do it. I was like, that would be

1372
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 2: really interesting. I think there was even someone who said

1373
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 2: they were they wanted to do it, and then they

1374
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 2: ended up playing Sally Bowles.

1375
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: I'm losing it right now. I mean not to not

1376
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: to put this out there and like put pressure on anybody,

1377
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 1: but Lisa Rinna as Mary Todd Lincoln.

1378
01:04:53,080 --> 01:05:00,080
Speaker 3: Oh, I've seen it. I can't. I thought of that.

1379
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 1: That would be a pretty good fit. I love it.

1380
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 3: It really could. But it's a hard role, isn't it.

1381
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: I think you could do it really hard?

1382
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 2: You remember I forty pages of dialogue and day on

1383
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 2: on days of our lives.

1384
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 3: Oh my god, will I be going back to Broadway?

1385
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 3: I might be just my day?

1386
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 1: This this is the origin.

1387
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 3: Oh, it always starts somewhere starts. That's not a bad idea.

1388
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 1: Maybe, I don't know.

1389
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 3: You never know, You never ever ever know.

1390
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 1: If you're listening, you know, they don't cast it. They

1391
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 1: don't cast it. I'm sure they have a heavy hand

1392
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: in deciding anything else to talk about before we do.

1393
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, why have anything you want to

1394
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 1: say about Ronica Marris? Oh my god, just I mean,

1395
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: what a stacked show between obviously Christians be first after me.

1396
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Harry kills her. Harry kills her.

1397
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 1: Harry kills her, kills her.

1398
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 2: So you probably have like I would imagine that, like

1399
01:05:58,040 --> 01:05:59,919
Speaker 2: you get people coming up and they hear they come,

1400
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 2: you can different what they're going to say. And then

1401
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 2: when they say Veronica Mars, that has to be a

1402
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 2: special like I.

1403
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 3: Like that one. I like the Veronica Mars and the Entourage.

1404
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 2: You have.

1405
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 3: To somehow YouTube it. See it. It's really fun.

1406
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 1: Probably HBO Max has it, probably definitely memore see it.

1407
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 3: Just it's not a big it's it's not huge. It's

1408
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 3: memorable though, it's a memorable. It's a memorable memorable episode

1409
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 3: for sure. I will say I get to be really sassiny,

1410
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 3: are you kidding? I just had Amelia. I can't remember

1411
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 3: how old she was. She was very young, and my

1412
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 3: agent at the time was like, you have to do

1413
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 3: this and it's really it's really nasty and quite saucy

1414
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 3: and all of it. And I was a new mother

1415
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 3: and I was like, I can't do this. There's no way.

1416
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 3: I mean, now, of course I wouldn't, I'd be like

1417
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 3: fine here, but at that time, I was like, I

1418
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 3: just can't do this. It's like I'm too vulnerable. He's like,

1419
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 3: you're doing it. I don't care what you say. It's

1420
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 3: entour and you're doing it. And so I did it.

1421
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 1: Wow, it's fine.

1422
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 2: So that was a time when like we had HBO

1423
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 2: on demand when I was when I was younger, and

1424
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 2: I remember my parents would leave. My parents would leave,

1425
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 2: and like I would like mainline Sex and the City

1426
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 2: and then just kind of like Sex and the City

1427
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 2: for boys. So clearly I was not that into it.

1428
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 2: I was like, I want to watch this other thing.

1429
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 2: But I peaked it on some episodes. I used to

1430
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 2: think Kevin Connolly was hot.

1431
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 1: They were all pretty good, and.

1432
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 3: They were so nice. It was gray, it was fun.

1433
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 3: It's just it's super rauchy.

1434
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's time we're transiting into I don't think so, honey.

1435
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 2: This is our one minute segment where we take that

1436
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 2: long to absolutely tear something up in culture.

1437
01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: Mine. It's a throwback, but it's it's relevant. Okay, this

1438
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: is okay, this is Matt Rogers. I don't think so

1439
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: many his time starts now.

1440
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey. Years ago, my parents took

1441
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 2: me to Los Angeles, California, after I graduated college. I

1442
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 2: had never been there before, and we went on a

1443
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 2: celebrity homes tour in one of those jeep safaris, and

1444
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 2: the guy was from New Zealand and he was riding

1445
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:17,759
Speaker 2: us down.

1446
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 1: By the Beverly Hills Hotel.

1447
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 2: And I don't think so honey that he almost killed

1448
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 2: me and my family trying to track down Adrian Grenier.

1449
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 2: He said, it's Adrian Grenier from Entourage.

1450
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: And this is my sort of New zeal And. He

1451
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: gundam as hard as he could, flying through. He literally

1452
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 1: pulled up next to this car. It was not Adrian Greneer.

1453
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 2: So what I want to say is, I don't think

1454
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 2: so honey to any of these people out there on

1455
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 2: the roads with families of four in the back.

1456
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 1: They don't know who Adrian Grenier is. Okay, first, I

1457
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 1: want to say that. Second of all, you can't kill

1458
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 1: me trying to see Adrian Greneer.

1459
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 2: You can kill me trying to run down seat like

1460
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 2: I don't know at the time, like he was like

1461
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 2: justin Biba, it was all about Bieber.

1462
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 3: Sure.

1463
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 2: I can't die trying to track down Adrian Greneer.

1464
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 1: From Entourage, not with my one precious light, real or fake.

1465
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 1: And that's one minute I'll never forget my first trip

1466
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: to Hollywood.

1467
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 3: Wow, did you buy the map?

1468
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 1: We did the whole thing.

1469
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 2: It was I'm telling you what we did that, you know,

1470
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 2: those tacky like Safari jeep cars.

1471
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 1: We got in one.

1472
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 2: I was mortified because I was like, oh, God, like

1473
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 2: me thinking at some point maybe I'll be one of

1474
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 2: these people, Like I wouldn't want.

1475
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 1: To like hunt them down. My parents wanted to go.

1476
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 1: And actually it was kind of interesting Aguilera's house it

1477
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: used to be as Osbourne's house.

1478
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 2: Like I was like, oh, that's interesting. Then when we

1479
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 2: almost died, you were I was like, get me out here.

1480
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 2: And the guy wasn't even Adrian Greneer gosh, but I

1481
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 2: Matt Rogers almost died in a car trying to find

1482
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 2: and we're.

1483
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 1: So happy you've lived.

1484
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, really good full circle. To bring that together.

1485
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 2: With the ento very Hollywood yes, bringing back the very

1486
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:06,919
Speaker 2: very good, very good paparazzi culture.

1487
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:09,640
Speaker 1: I've got a bit of a throwback as well.

1488
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 3: Okay, this is a hard one, by the way, you guys.

1489
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 1: Know, it's very hard, especially when we get from the heart.

1490
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 3: So it's hard.

1491
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 2: Oftentimes we'll do like two or three in the day

1492
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 2: and it becomes really difficulty.

1493
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 1: Believe Ultimately you do.

1494
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 2: I find always have something to complain about it. I

1495
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 2: think you do all right, So this is bon yangs.

1496
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. At times, I don't think

1497
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:28,679
Speaker 1: so honey.

1498
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 2: That they have since closed the restaurant where the Amsterdam

1499
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 2: trip happened on the.

1500
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills episode.

1501
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 2: That is a historical site that is next to another

1502
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:41,879
Speaker 2: historical site, which is the Anne Frank House. But anyone

1503
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 2: who goes to Amsterdam now cannot go to the site

1504
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 2: of the restaurant and where Lisa're gonna broke the glass

1505
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 2: and wave in front of Kim Richard's space and Kyle

1506
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:53,600
Speaker 2: and Kyle Flatt and we need to re enact the

1507
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 2: Kyle fleeing scene when you're in Amsterdam.

1508
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 1: That's like what we as game and want to do

1509
01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 1: in this day and age. We can't do it anymore.

1510
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 1: And now you go to the n Frank House, it's

1511
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 1: a bunch of teens with their little harvedboards loitering by

1512
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:08,679
Speaker 1: the river. We it could have been overrun with gay

1513
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 1: men and gorgeous women wanting to see that historic site,

1514
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 1: that amazing moment in housewives history. It's just gone. Now.

1515
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 2: We need we need to commemorate and landmark these places

1516
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 2: or else we will lose history. Second, and history is

1517
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,719
Speaker 2: the only thing that we have or else it will

1518
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 2: repeat itself or rhyme and.

1519
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 1: That's one minute.

1520
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 2: Wow, it's closed. You used to be able to do

1521
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 2: and Frank House and that in one day, and now

1522
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 2: now you can't. And now you can't.

1523
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:44,600
Speaker 3: I have people sending me like the area, yea, that

1524
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 3: it is, but it's not there. It's not there, the

1525
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 3: area or something else is there? Now I know.

1526
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 2: Have you seen the uh the like asmr whispered.

1527
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 3: Genius, So genius. It's one of the funniest you know,

1528
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 3: I enjoy these things. I will never not enjoy this.

1529
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 3: It is so funny to me. Are you kidding me?

1530
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1531
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 3: It is some of the greatest television ever made. That

1532
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:13,839
Speaker 3: didn't even know we were making it, does you guys?

1533
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:16,679
Speaker 3: It was five minutes we sat down, It happened five

1534
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 3: minutes later. You don't know that.

1535
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 1: So wait, that was a quick scene.

1536
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,600
Speaker 3: No, we came into this restaurant to sit down. You

1537
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 3: would think that we had been sitting there for.

1538
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 1: A long time.

1539
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 3: Got your drinks, We sat down, and five minutes.

1540
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 1: Later that happened.

1541
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 2: That's the editing, because they catch all the talking heads,

1542
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:35,440
Speaker 2: they cut the confessionals.

1543
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 3: We sit down and boom, the whole conversation starts. I

1544
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,480
Speaker 3: mean it took a minute to get to the glass.

1545
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 3: I we didn't have drinks even, I mean I think

1546
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 3: they brought them as we were talking. You didn't see them.

1547
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 3: But when I sat down five minutes later, that whole

1548
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:55,759
Speaker 3: conversation started. And I would probably say ten more minutes

1549
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 3: in so fifteen more minutes. I was across the table.

1550
01:12:59,439 --> 01:12:59,759
Speaker 1: Wow.

1551
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 2: And I always wonder, like, do they take your food

1552
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:03,440
Speaker 2: order beforehand?

1553
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 3: They do now they didn't. Then they used to take

1554
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 3: it like a couple of days before. I don't think

1555
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,679
Speaker 3: the food ever came at that point, Like that year

1556
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 3: of the show, you never ate there's no food gift,

1557
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 3: Like there might be food, but you're lucky. Hence the

1558
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 3: you know, most of the drinking. I hadn't even had

1559
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 3: a glass of wine. I was not drunk, but they

1560
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 3: worked you up. Oh, it didn't take long. It was

1561
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 3: already building though.

1562
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 2: You know.

1563
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 3: It's the kind of thing that you know, she was

1564
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 3: vibing me on the plane. We already had like really

1565
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 3: like it was bubbling, bubbling, bubbling, bubbling, And I'll never

1566
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 3: forget because she's like right here, like she's pretty far.

1567
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the hut.

1568
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 3: When she started in on that, I was already in

1569
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 3: your jet legs. Of course you're jet legged. I'm not

1570
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 3: going to blame it on that, but you're like jet

1571
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 3: lag and you're not at your you know best. But

1572
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 3: I'll never forget her. Just like poking and poking and

1573
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 3: me thinking to myself, Okay, that's it. And I remember

1574
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 3: flying across the table and stopping myself mid lunch and

1575
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 3: this is what I said. And most people have never

1576
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 3: heard this. I said to myself, if you touch her,

1577
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,440
Speaker 3: you're going to jail in Amsterdam. You're in Amsterdam.

1578
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, remember, And so then I.

1579
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 3: Pull back and I had so much rage that I

1580
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 3: picked up the glass and smashed it.

1581
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah good TV. Did you just see her at Alexia's wedding?

1582
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 3: Nope, she wasn't there. But I've seen her and we

1583
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 3: have like worked through I've worked through most of it

1584
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 3: with most of them, because you have to. I don't

1585
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 3: want to carry that.

1586
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 1: You're a human being.

1587
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 3: We're all humans. Were doing the best we could at

1588
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 3: the time. Whatever. But I've already had that. I've worked

1589
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 3: through it with Kathy Hilton. All is fine.

1590
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 2: It feels like that must have gotten calmer because it

1591
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 2: all come down between Kathy and Kyle.

1592
01:14:57,640 --> 01:14:59,639
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, and that's where it all began.

1593
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 1: Are you okay with Garcela or is that kind of

1594
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 1: in the past too? Now? Wow, here we go. This

1595
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 1: is Lisa Renna. Do you have something?

1596
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 3: I said almost everyone?

1597
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:15,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's fine.

1598
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 2: I feel really sad about this, the Sutton and Garcela

1599
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 2: of it all. At the end there, I was really

1600
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 2: that didn't feel great.

1601
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 3: Two people I knew before. See, it never works when

1602
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 3: I know you before about it, Denise Sutton, garcel.

1603
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 1: That's a bummer.

1604
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 3: Didn't work with the people that I actually knew, and

1605
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 3: well I knew Kyle before.

1606
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: So that worked. Yeah, Okay, there are exceptions.

1607
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 3: I'm going to try one. I don't know if I

1608
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 3: are going to do great. I don't know if I

1609
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 3: actually have it, but since we're on Amsterdam, I'm going

1610
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 3: to go down a road there, Okay, Okay, I'm gonna

1611
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 3: try And what do I say first?

1612
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey, And then I'll play you

1613
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 2: in the clock. This is Lisa Reyna's I don't think

1614
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 2: so many her time starts now.

1615
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 3: I don't think so, honey. We're in Amsterdam and we're

1616
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 3: going around and we're walking around and yes, there are

1617
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,759
Speaker 3: sex clubs and there are women in the windows and whatnot.

1618
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 3: And everyone is like, hey, let's go into this because

1619
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 3: I want to see a woman shoot a banana out

1620
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 3: of her vagina. And I'm like, I don't think so, honey,

1621
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 3: but I had no choice. It was like two in

1622
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,719
Speaker 3: the morning, and so we go downstairs into this cave,

1623
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,679
Speaker 3: into this club and I'm already I think I've already

1624
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 3: done the broken glass part and I'm already traumatized. And

1625
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 3: they're like, yes, you really need to see this. This

1626
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 3: woman shoots a banana out of hergina.

1627
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 1: I don't really need to see it.

1628
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 3: And sure enough, this way it takes a little banana.

1629
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 3: It's not even a big banana. It's this little banana

1630
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 3: and she somehow shoots it across the room over vagina.

1631
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 3: And I never, honey, needed to see that ever in

1632
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 3: my life.

1633
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:47,799
Speaker 1: I can't get it out.

1634
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,639
Speaker 3: Of my mind. And I wish I said, no, fuckers,

1635
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 3: I'm not going to see the banana come out of

1636
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 3: the vagina in Amsterdam. And that's that. No, thank you, honey.

1637
01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 3: Ever again, that's Erica Jane the producers.

1638
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this was pre she would have been ready

1639
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 2: to go.

1640
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 3: She would have. It was I was a group of us.

1641
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 3: We were bored. We weren't even filming of the cameras.

1642
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 3: Down the cameras, do go down, get down. We went

1643
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 3: down and Aspen and they went down here for the

1644
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 3: banana shooting out of the vagina.

1645
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that would have been good to see. It

1646
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 1: would have been great to.

1647
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 3: Have been actually very exciting. There wasn't, no, honey, you still.

1648
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: Think about it, which is tough. It's like it's like

1649
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 1: a stress stream that you're gonna have.

1650
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 3: I should never have seen it. I should have closed

1651
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 3: my eyes and said, no, damn, there you go.

1652
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 1: Well you're stronger because of it. You are no regrets.

1653
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 1: You said, no regrets from that time, and that includes me.

1654
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 3: Well, I feel like I've seen a lot.

1655
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, this has been such a joy.

1656
01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 3: It's like so excited. I was like, I can't wait

1657
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 3: to come and play with the boys because that's I

1658
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,719
Speaker 3: feel like it's just so easy with you. And thank

1659
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 3: you again for the Awards show. It was the time

1660
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 3: of my life. It changed a lot of things. Just

1661
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 3: so you guys know, I'm going to tell you. My

1662
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 3: agents were like, I'm telling you that show has has

1663
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 3: raised your your value and everyone is calling they love.

1664
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:23,720
Speaker 3: I was like, that's you nice at this point, that

1665
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:27,600
Speaker 3: is so thank you, thank you well listen, I know

1666
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 3: you gave me the opportunity and I just had fun

1667
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 3: doing it. So thank you.

1668
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 2: We have enjoyed you in all of your forms in

1669
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 2: this entertainment industry. Watching you now getting to meet you

1670
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 2: is so fun and we're just like so happy to

1671
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 2: meet you. And I don't know if I told you this,

1672
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 2: but our best friend Jared years ago was walking in

1673
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 2: Frieman Canyon and he would always run into you, and

1674
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 2: he had a dog, and I guess Harry went down

1675
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 2: one time to pet the dog and he Jared said

1676
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 2: to Harry Hamlin, hey, congrats on the sauce.

1677
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 1: And I always thought that was the funniest thing ever.

1678
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:05,679
Speaker 2: I was like that Harry Hamblin now like superstar Harry

1679
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 2: Hamlet is now being congratulated about the sauce.

1680
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 3: It's the truth, he said. People stop him and say

1681
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 3: where's Lisa, And I love your sauce and congrats on

1682
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 3: the sauce.

1683
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, we love the sauce.

1684
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 3: You can I'll send you the sauce.

1685
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 1: I love bolon as.

1686
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 3: Okay, Well there's bowlon as. Now there's Marinara, there's vodka sauce.

1687
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 1: Now there's four I love it.

1688
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 3: And he just got into Gelson's. Come Colations, got into Gelson's.

1689
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Gelson breaking through in Hollywood. I mean, it's.

1690
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go there, got into thirty Gelson's. So it's beginning.

1691
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:50,600
Speaker 3: Is that the name of the sauce Harry's Famous. You

1692
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 3: can get it at Harry's Famous dot com or Amazon

1693
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 3: right now until you can get it in Gelson's and

1694
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 3: then god knows where else.

1695
01:19:56,640 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 1: And we didn't even get into QVC. Lisa, that's best.

1696
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:03,679
Speaker 3: Next time we have watch listen. We have a lot

1697
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,679
Speaker 3: to say. I obviously have much. I could have ranted

1698
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 3: on that. I could rant on a lot of things,

1699
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 3: but we'll be good.

1700
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 2: Let's not talk about The Husband is a podcast presented

1701
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,839
Speaker 2: by Dear Media, Thank you and Harry Hamlin.

1702
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 1: It's really fun.

1703
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 2: If you miss watching those interactions on TV, you can

1704
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 2: hear them every week in your ears. And do you

1705
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:27,639
Speaker 2: know when The Traders comes out?

1706
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:28,639
Speaker 3: It's January.

1707
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 2: That's what I love about Traders too, is it premieeres

1708
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:32,919
Speaker 2: right after the New Year.

1709
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 3: And it always Yeah, Yeah, we're starting, our can start. Yeah,

1710
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:43,719
Speaker 3: just you wait. I'm well, Jan you wait.

1711
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 1: Every episode with the song come Home Babe, Why don't wait?

1712
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:54,440
Speaker 1: To pay the town and all that jazz rude monies

1713
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 1: and docks down.

1714
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 2: And all that as and if you want to hear

1715
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 2: more of that, you can see Chicago on Broadway.

1716
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 1: It's not going anywhere, Followers it lost culture. Reacis is

1717
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 1: in production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players in iHeartRadio podcasts.

1718
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:16,520
Speaker 2: Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yeg, executive

1719
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 2: produced by Ana Hasnia and produced by Decor Ramos, edited

1720
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 2: a mix by Doug Bain and our music is by

1721
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 2: Henry Komerski.