Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tory Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. Okay, so you
Speaker 1: guys know that I rarely do things for myself. It's
Speaker 1: been a thing and it's an issue that I'm working on,
Speaker 1: and unless it's like.
Speaker 2: Work based or kid based.
Speaker 1: You know, I never kind of like, I'm not the
Speaker 1: girl that ever like goes out for drinks with my
Speaker 1: friends unless you know, there's some connection with the kids
Speaker 1: or work or something. So my best friend Jess, she's
Speaker 1: pretty much the same, and she has two kids. I
Speaker 1: have five kids, obviously, and we always say we're going
Speaker 1: to do things. And the one thing that we actually do,
Speaker 1: and it's usually around this time of year, during the
Speaker 1: Halloween season because that's our season. We do these immersive experiences.
Speaker 1: So when you've listened to miss Spelling before, you know
Speaker 1: I've done an episode with my friend Darren Lynn Bousman
Speaker 1: and Morgan Rooms and Darren you know, miss the creator
Speaker 1: of Saw two, three, four and many other films. But
Speaker 1: I'm a huge horror fan and he started doing these
Speaker 1: immersive experiences predominantly in LA and that's you know, Jess
Speaker 1: and I that was like our one thing. We'd be like, okay,
Speaker 1: one night out and we would go and it's like
Speaker 1: our jam. Jess and I do this together. And during
Speaker 1: COVID and Lockdown, Darren even did this online one called
Speaker 1: Ie Confidant that people applied four thousands of people and
Speaker 1: they picked twenty people and Jess and I were in that.
Speaker 1: Just Halloween's are jam, Like this time rolls around every
Speaker 1: year and we're like, okay, what can we find? And
Speaker 1: it's usually mostly like taking the kids to look at
Speaker 1: lights and pumpkins and that type of stuff, but we
Speaker 1: always do like Halloween Horror Nights at Universal where there's
Speaker 1: a haunt you know, mazes you walk through, but these
Speaker 1: immersive things that Darren does are more think of it
Speaker 1: that way, like a haunted maze you walk through, but
Speaker 1: the actors are ready and willing to go any direction
Speaker 1: kind of that you want to take them in. You know,
Speaker 1: they're kind of been given a background as story. And
Speaker 1: just so you know, Exiled is currently playing right now.
Speaker 1: I think it's there till through the first week in November.
Speaker 1: And if you don't know what an immersive experiences, think
Speaker 1: of it, and this is how Darren would put it.
Speaker 1: There was a movie way back called The Game and
Speaker 1: it was essentially like everything. It's it's pretty much like
Speaker 1: choose your own adventure, but it's your life like. So
Speaker 1: he wanted people to beyond the horror genre thriller genre
Speaker 1: of seeing a movie and then going home when it's
Speaker 1: over watching it, you know, on the couch or streaming it,
Speaker 1: and then the experience is gone.
Speaker 2: And you have a jump scare you.
Speaker 1: Actually, he wanted people to be active participants in how
Speaker 1: they visually interpreted, let's say, the horror film. So he
Speaker 1: created immersive experiences where he full on productions and actors
Speaker 1: and he's that creator. He reminds me so much of
Speaker 1: my dad because my dad would always be so hands
Speaker 1: on like and Darren is literally in the trenches doing
Speaker 1: everything in the control room, telling each actor in their
Speaker 1: earpiece what to say to the participants, you know, us
Speaker 1: patrons that are walking through this experience. And he was
Speaker 1: doing this big one. He is from Kansas City, Missouri,
Speaker 1: and he had decided he was going to go back
Speaker 1: to his hometown and now that he's a big you know,
Speaker 1: director creator, bring the immersive horror experience to his hometown.
Speaker 1: So this has been like a year and a half
Speaker 1: in the making. It's called Exiled It's definitely something you
Speaker 1: don't want to miss because in la I feel like
Speaker 1: these experiences you know have to be in a big
Speaker 1: building downtown or you know, they have to rent someplace.
Speaker 1: This is like authentic, like it's in the woods, you guys,
Speaker 1: and Kansas City exiled in the woods on one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty acres in the woods that they literally transformed
Speaker 1: into like think of it a Halloween of Hornite's at Universal,
Speaker 1: but you don't have the safety of Universal. If you
Speaker 1: are looking for like the ultimate like haunting experience, this
Speaker 1: is really truly it, and there's different components of it.
Speaker 1: So there's like immersive stuff where you can have interactions
Speaker 1: with actors and they've given a whole backstory. So if
Speaker 1: you want to do the research, you can come into
Speaker 1: a blind and be fine. But you know, for anyone
Speaker 1: that wants to prepare for this experience, I don't prepare
Speaker 1: for trips or packing, but I do prepare for these
Speaker 1: types of experiences. So there's a backstory of like a
Speaker 1: story of why the family was there and anyway, none
Speaker 1: of this you guys don't care about. But it's like
Speaker 1: an extreme haunt where you like walk through the woods
Speaker 1: and you're like, you know, Halloween Horn Nights like Universal,
Speaker 1: it's amazing the mazes, but you know, like afterwards you're
Speaker 1: like okay, you know, you look to the right and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh cool, I can have funnel Cake and
Speaker 1: Harry Potter Land. You know, it's like safe this one.
Speaker 1: You're really like left out in the woods. So it's
Speaker 1: like it's all very safe, but it just feels more authentic.
Speaker 1: And Jess and I were like, Okay, we're going to
Speaker 1: do this immersive horror experience.
Speaker 2: But we felt guilty because it was like, oh.
Speaker 1: It's not just like us going and telling the kids, hey,
Speaker 1: we'll be back in a few hours. Like we had
Speaker 1: to fly to Kansas City, which makes us both uncomfortable
Speaker 1: leaving our children. But you know, we kind of were
Speaker 1: like we didn't know if it was going to happen
Speaker 1: because I was on Dancing with the Stars, and when
Speaker 1: I signed up for Dancing with the Stars, you know,
Speaker 1: I kept thinking, okay, that goes through November if I
Speaker 1: was lucky enough to make it that far. So and
Speaker 1: Jess is the opposite of me, like she's a planner.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the flow type of girl. If
Speaker 1: you plan something too far in advance. I'll find a
Speaker 1: way to like tank it because I just can't deal
Speaker 1: with like scheduling things. I'm more like, sure, let's see
Speaker 1: where the wind blows us and blew us to Kansas City.
Speaker 1: So she said, do you think we're going to be
Speaker 1: able to do our im worsive horror experience? And I said,
Speaker 1: I don't know, because if I'm on Dancing with the Stars,
Speaker 1: we might not be able to. So silver lining getting
Speaker 1: eliminated from Dancing with the Stars. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, Jess, we can go do Exiled
Speaker 1: in Kansas City. And so we're like, okay, well, gosh,
Speaker 1: there's so much happening in October. October is not only
Speaker 1: our favorite month of the year because we love Halloween
Speaker 1: and we're horror girls, but two of our girls have
Speaker 1: have birthdays in October. So my daughter Hattie's birthday is
Speaker 1: October tenth, and Justin's daughter Sophia, her birthday's October eighteenth.
Speaker 2: So we're like, okay, how are we going to plan
Speaker 2: all this?
Speaker 1: And then Darren texted me and he said I think
Speaker 1: he texted me on a Tuesday and he said, can
Speaker 1: you fly out Thursday and do my experience here on Friday.
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my gosh, that's really quick.
Speaker 1: So I was like, cool, I don't have to worry about,
Speaker 1: you know, planning and thinking about a trip ahead of time.
Speaker 1: That plummeted Jess because she's a planner. She plans things
Speaker 1: literally like months a year in advance. So saying like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're going to do this. This is what we've dreamt
Speaker 1: of doing. You know, we talked about having me time
Speaker 1: and we need to do these things. And her husband Wolf,
Speaker 1: he's home, he can take care of the girls, and
Speaker 1: Diana's in La he can take care of our kids. Like,
Speaker 1: it's we should do this for us. And I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie I did. I'm still going to play this
Speaker 1: carful a little bit, you guys. I was like, and jests,
Speaker 1: I was just eliminated from Dancing with the Stars. Please,
Speaker 1: you're my best friend. We need this weekend.
Speaker 2: She's like, okay, so we booked our tickets.
Speaker 1: And we're going to go. And I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm scared of flying. I'm trying to get over that.
Speaker 1: This is the new Meet Tory two point zero. Still
Speaker 1: scared of flying. We're trying to find direct flights, so
Speaker 1: the only flight we could get because apparently everybody had
Speaker 1: this idea of going to do I want to say
Speaker 1: it was for the experience, but also I feel like
Speaker 1: since Taylor Swift, like, Kansas City's like on the map,
Speaker 1: so it's hard to get a flight there. Anyway, we
Speaker 1: found a flight. We booked it literally the day before,
Speaker 1: and Jess was panicked because she usually plans things. And
Speaker 1: she was like, Okay, what out to bringing?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, have you met my life? Like do
Speaker 2: you think?
Speaker 1: And she was like, I just I'm not sure what
Speaker 1: to pack? Do I need one out of two? I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, Like my life is chaotic,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. I have five kids. I don't even know
Speaker 1: what's happening tomorrow. Like I just got to throw my
Speaker 1: shit in a bag and go. That's the best plan
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 3: Wait, I have a question. So just for the record,
Speaker 3: I can't think of anything I would rather not do
Speaker 3: than one of these immerses. But my question is number one,
Speaker 3: how did you and Jess find out that you both
Speaker 3: liked to do this.
Speaker 1: That's a great question, And Jess is here now and
Speaker 1: we can ask her because I'm not sure how we
Speaker 1: even connected on that.
Speaker 2: I so I was like setting.
Speaker 1: Up the backstory of our immersive history and we plan
Speaker 1: and then we just get in the car and go
Speaker 1: for one night. But this was having to fly to
Speaker 1: another city.
Speaker 2: So you're so lucky. You haven't really missed.
Speaker 1: Any of the good stuff. Ruthanne had a good question.
Speaker 1: She's curious, as best friends, how did we find out
Speaker 1: that we both like had this mutual love of horror
Speaker 1: and intense like immersive and wanting to be in that world.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it started just with Halloween when.
Speaker 2: You see Yeah, I did say that.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's our season, Like, yeah, every year
Speaker 1: and we like spooky stuff and we wish it was
Speaker 1: Halloween all year round.
Speaker 5: Right, and we would do like the typical like haunt It,
Speaker 5: hay Rides and like god, what else is here? Like
Speaker 5: we did Creep, which is fun. We've done right, like.
Speaker 1: Halloween Horror Nights at Universal we always did. But hay
Speaker 1: Ride is a good one because we walked out of
Speaker 1: that and we're like, oh, I just.
Speaker 2: Wish it was scarier.
Speaker 1: I wish there was like some interaction or like what
Speaker 1: would scare us for?
Speaker 2: We're always looking to be scared.
Speaker 1: And it's really interesting because I feel our dynamic as
Speaker 1: best friends, Like if you had to think of the
Speaker 1: two of us, like I'm kind of the extrovert in
Speaker 1: our relationship, you're the introvert. But this is like the
Speaker 1: one place where we both can come together and kind
Speaker 1: of let go of all our inhibitions and feel kind
Speaker 1: of free. It's like our time. And because it's like immersive,
Speaker 1: it's not like real life really, right, but.
Speaker 5: The idea is to put yourself out there and feel
Speaker 5: like it is. And that's the only way to be
Speaker 5: fully immersed is if you actually you kind of have to.
Speaker 2: You have to play into it, right.
Speaker 4: It's just harder for me.
Speaker 1: Yes, and no, though I think you're really good at it. Well,
Speaker 1: it's not a game kind of it kind of is
Speaker 1: like a game. Well that's the other thing it came
Speaker 1: from is the movie The Game. It's our absolute favorite movie.
Speaker 1: There's nothing better, and both of us our dream is
Speaker 1: for the.
Speaker 2: Game to happen to us, right that, like one day.
Speaker 1: Things are just a little off and like things happen,
Speaker 1: but this happens to us constantly. Well, more happens to
Speaker 1: me and it's usually me texting like, you're not gonna
Speaker 1: believe what just happened. You're like, no, I would, and
Speaker 1: it'd be like the most random thing. But we always
Speaker 1: are like, one of these days, the weirdest, most random
Speaker 1: thing that just happened. It's actually going to be a
Speaker 1: game someone planned for us. And that's what Darren does
Speaker 1: do is he plans that for people to be able
Speaker 1: to have I mean he does one on ones, which
Speaker 1: we're still hoping for one day.
Speaker 5: Well have we On the flight home, we kind of
Speaker 5: thought that We're like, wait, it's all these exiled people
Speaker 5: in the same row, Like what if this is a plan?
Speaker 4: Like what if that wasn't remember? We were kind of
Speaker 4: like what happened?
Speaker 1: Because I think are into this world and our friends
Speaker 1: with Darren and Morgan like we just always think that,
Speaker 1: like whatever we're doing, we're like, but what if that
Speaker 1: person over there on the plane is like when you
Speaker 1: told me you can find any other.
Speaker 2: Flights except Southwest?
Speaker 1: I was like I did have a moment where I
Speaker 1: was like, did Darren like get all like the tickets
Speaker 1: and everyone on that plane is going to be an
Speaker 1: actor except for me and Jess, And Jess knows it's happening.
Speaker 2: And I don't know.
Speaker 5: You said that on the plane. You were like, is
Speaker 5: that Are you in on this? Like what's happening.
Speaker 2: Let's started at the airport.
Speaker 5: In the airport, we were like you were You had
Speaker 5: me freaking out. I'm like, there's no way at this point,
Speaker 5: it was almost three o'clock in the morning, Like it
Speaker 5: wasn't gonna happen, but you had me panicked. You're like
Speaker 5: looking around, You're hoodie up, your sunglasses on.
Speaker 2: You were ready for.
Speaker 1: It, right because Darren notoriously has done things like that
Speaker 1: and Morgan like with people that they'll just like grab you,
Speaker 1: please do it, like grab you from the airport, shove
Speaker 1: you in a van, and you're like, just go for it,
Speaker 1: like you don't know what's real and what's not. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So before you came on, I was just saying how
Speaker 1: you and I have a hard thing as guilty moms,
Speaker 1: that mom guilt ever like going beyond doing like we'll
Speaker 1: go out and have our worse of one night. But
Speaker 1: for us to go away was a tough thing for
Speaker 1: two days because we both we both feel really bad,
Speaker 1: but we decided to do it. It was last minute.
Speaker 1: Your packing was like it was interesting because you're a
Speaker 1: planner and a packer and like everything's thought out. But
Speaker 1: because you only had like a day's notice, I feel like.
Speaker 2: It was good. It was like the undoing that you
Speaker 2: need it done.
Speaker 5: No, I still stress out about it because I'm like,
Speaker 5: you know, I actually have thought about this.
Speaker 4: I'm like, what if she does this to me again?
Speaker 2: Today?
Speaker 5: I bought a tiny face washed travel size. If you
Speaker 5: do this, I'm ready, swear.
Speaker 1: To God it is if I do it to you again.
Speaker 1: You're a willing to participant.
Speaker 5: No, but you love your last minute stuff, so I
Speaker 5: have it ready. I have my mini face washed so
Speaker 5: I don't get like stuck Intosa again.
Speaker 1: It was really fun though. When I told you, why
Speaker 1: don't we just do a carry on and not check,
Speaker 1: You're like, wait, what what do you mean?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: That didn't work for me. And then you're like, I
Speaker 1: only packed one pair of shoes. I'm like, yeah, duh,
Speaker 1: me too.
Speaker 4: I ended up bringing too. You did so did you?
Speaker 4: But I only did one.
Speaker 1: I didn't ee second pair. They stayed in my bag
Speaker 1: the whole time. There you go, see goes to show. Okay,
Speaker 1: so what happened?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: We got to the airport, we flew, we landed, our
Speaker 1: flight kept being delayed, delayed, delayed, delayed, which I wasn't
Speaker 1: mad at because I got to stay home a little
Speaker 1: bit longer with the kids.
Speaker 4: Same Can I ask you a question about that?
Speaker 3: So yeahsives is it like, Okay, it begins at this
Speaker 3: time or it could begin anytime like that? How does
Speaker 3: that work?
Speaker 5: So this one, I mean, there's I guess it depends
Speaker 5: on what you're doing. There's some of them have an
Speaker 5: arg aspect to them where there's like different online things
Speaker 5: you can participate in. Prior this one, it was a
Speaker 5: specific timed event, but sometimes when you participate in the
Speaker 5: online portion, you don't really know what's going to happen.
Speaker 5: Like they could show up to your house, they could
Speaker 5: show up, throw us in a van at the airport.
Speaker 5: A lot of different things that happened. So we were
Speaker 5: kind of unsure because in the past we've been more
Speaker 5: active online doing a lot of that, so I think
Speaker 5: there was more reason for that to happen this time
Speaker 5: we were not. So it did start at the ticket
Speaker 5: of time and it ended at the you know what
Speaker 5: was it four hours later? So it was along it
Speaker 5: was longthand do you know what an ARG is?
Speaker 3: Nope?
Speaker 2: Are you googling it?
Speaker 3: Nope?
Speaker 1: In case you don't know, because the likelihood of me
Speaker 1: ever doing.
Speaker 3: This is zero.
Speaker 2: So arg alternate reality game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but when Okay, So when people say that, I think, like, naturally,
Speaker 5: my mind goes to like a controller like place.
Speaker 2: It's not like that at all.
Speaker 5: It's all like a mind fuck basically. It's it's just
Speaker 5: it's all like psychological and more like you're interacting with
Speaker 5: characters and that sort of thing than it is like
Speaker 5: an actual game, because sometimes there's not really any game
Speaker 5: aspects sometimes les or things like that.
Speaker 1: But then I don't think there was with this one,
Speaker 1: thank god, because you know, I suck at that. A
Speaker 1: lot of people ask me, oh, is it so it's
Speaker 1: like an escape room?
Speaker 2: No, not really at all.
Speaker 5: The best way to describe it would be the game
Speaker 5: like to watch the movie. I mean, I feel like
Speaker 5: that's the easiest way to describe like kind.
Speaker 4: Of what it is to an extent, don't you think?
Speaker 2: Definitely?
Speaker 1: But this one had portions to it, so there was
Speaker 1: like the haunted trails were like it would be like
Speaker 1: doing a haunted maze.
Speaker 4: Or yeah, horrorizers thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, jump out.
Speaker 4: We did have our little eating.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I forgot they made just and I
Speaker 1: eat dried maggots.
Speaker 5: We didn't know until after the fact. I'm like gagging
Speaker 5: in the corner, spinning it all out.
Speaker 2: Did you spit it out? And then ask do you
Speaker 2: think I spin it out? No, I'm hardcore. Yeah, when
Speaker 2: I'm in it, I meant it.
Speaker 3: I mean that is where I would be so out.
Speaker 3: I can't know that's.
Speaker 2: Where you would be out. Oh my god.
Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't have been in in the first place.
Speaker 3: But that's exactly the kind of thing that would keep
Speaker 3: me from doing something like that.
Speaker 5: I feel like that's the first time I've had to
Speaker 5: eat something like really actually like nasty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they never do that. It's not like fear factor
Speaker 1: like that. That was the first And that was.
Speaker 5: Just part of like the trail. That wasn't part of
Speaker 5: like the show prior the shit that was kind of.
Speaker 3: Like the.
Speaker 5: I don't I don't know how to describe that part,
Speaker 5: don't ask me, but it wasn't part. No, that was
Speaker 5: the like towards the end the appetizer was like there
Speaker 5: was like a whole other section.
Speaker 4: We were the other parts.
Speaker 5: We were there for maybe the three hours that was
Speaker 5: like the last hour kind of like get out here. Yeah,
Speaker 5: So there were three parts and we pulled up, we parked.
Speaker 2: We're with our.
Speaker 1: Friend Larry, who we know from all these immersive experiences
Speaker 1: because we made like a group of friends and it's
Speaker 1: all misfit, unlikely friends like that.
Speaker 2: We're all friends. It's kind of crazy.
Speaker 5: And a lot of them happened to be going to
Speaker 5: the event and he just hadn't getting there the same
Speaker 5: week r other friends went the weekend before, and I
Speaker 5: guess there's others going, you know, right in our immersive
Speaker 5: group what do we call them?
Speaker 2: What are we? I don't know, immersive groupies. Oh I'm
Speaker 2: a groupie for once.
Speaker 4: We neither.
Speaker 2: But it's all scared, no scared.
Speaker 5: That's the thing that is interesting is when I first
Speaker 5: found the first one tension, I was googling like the
Speaker 5: scariest haunted house that you could ever fought, Like just
Speaker 5: stupid things like that because I thought it was I
Speaker 5: wanted to be scared.
Speaker 4: But a lot of it is more vulnerability. No, I
Speaker 4: can't say it.
Speaker 5: So a lot of it's that, and it's just putting
Speaker 5: yourself out there in an uncomfortable space more than anything else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think we like scary stuff, but I think when
Speaker 1: we say it's like a horror thing, it's really not.
Speaker 5: No, I agree, right, vulnerabile, You're right, it is. It's
Speaker 5: all about being vulnerable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pushing yourself out of your comfort zone. And
Speaker 1: you know that's different for each person. And I think
Speaker 1: when you do something like that, it's not pushing yourself
Speaker 1: out of your comfort zone in an extroverted way. Like
Speaker 1: it's not like me when I was like, oh, dancing
Speaker 1: with the stars, this is one of my biggest fears. Like,
Speaker 1: that's a different type of fear, right, this is like
Speaker 1: just being able to be as much or as little
Speaker 1: out of your comfort zone and showing like your real self.
Speaker 1: For me, it's acceptance, Like I feel I don't feel
Speaker 1: accepted a lot. I think in the way I want
Speaker 1: to be accepted, And I feel like in this world
Speaker 1: I can be whoever I want to be and I
Speaker 1: blend in. I'm like, because you can go as far
Speaker 1: as you want, Like if you want to interact with
Speaker 1: all the actors there, you can. If you just want
Speaker 1: to walk through and do the trail, you can.
Speaker 2: So that day.
Speaker 1: So we fly in and I was our friend. Our
Speaker 1: friend Tim had done it the weekend before or two
Speaker 1: weekends before, and he had gotten doused in fake blood.
Speaker 1: And Jess and I had done something like three years
Speaker 1: ago where we played like the Shining Twins and we
Speaker 1: got fake blood and she's brunette. So it came out
Speaker 1: my blonde extensions like it didn't come out. I had
Speaker 1: like pink hair for a really long time. And I
Speaker 1: was really nervous because Tim got big blood dumped on him,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you know anything about extensions and hair,
Speaker 2: like oo, it's like now ex expensive.
Speaker 1: It's like you know, it's like a small rent. It's
Speaker 1: not a small rent, it's like a full size, like
Speaker 1: fire in those studio apartment. You put these suckers in.
Speaker 1: You want them to last as long as possible. So
Speaker 1: Laura had just put in my new twenty two inch extensions.
Speaker 1: I was super proud of them, fresh color. And then
Speaker 1: I was like, great, well, I know myself and I'm
Speaker 1: not going to hold back. Like when I'm into these things,
Speaker 1: I give everything anything I do in life. If I'm committed,
Speaker 1: I put my whole heart and soul into and so
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm.
Speaker 2: Never going to be like, wait, no, my hair.
Speaker 1: And then we knew if we said anything to Darren
Speaker 1: or Morgan that they do it even more and fuck
Speaker 1: with us. So it was a conundrum because we were
Speaker 1: like what should we do? And I had this gala
Speaker 1: had to present at and I was like, I can't
Speaker 1: come back with pink hair.
Speaker 2: So we had discussed maybe.
Speaker 1: Like getting beanies, wearing wigs like we wanted. We didn't
Speaker 1: know what to do, but because it was so rushed,
Speaker 1: we didn't get our beanies.
Speaker 5: No what she ordered eight I think instacart to the hotel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not at that point in the store yet. Okay.
Speaker 1: So we're at our hotel and the thing is happening
Speaker 1: that night and it's like midday.
Speaker 2: We got up.
Speaker 1: We're like, we should go explore the city. We walked
Speaker 1: for two blocks and we said, okay, cool, we saw
Speaker 1: the city and then we came back to our hotel
Speaker 1: and decided to have a drink instead and lunch. That
Speaker 1: we were sitting at the hotel bar and I'm like, shoot,
Speaker 1: we still haven't gotten the beanies yet.
Speaker 2: We don't know what to do.
Speaker 5: And then we start asking where, like are there stores
Speaker 5: around here?
Speaker 4: Are their little boutiques? Or like where can we buy bees?
Speaker 2: Right? Jess was like.
Speaker 1: She'd never been to Kansas City, Missouri? Or you had
Speaker 1: when you were three?
Speaker 2: Right? I have?
Speaker 4: I was like three, I was a flower girl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was But she was like, like, do
Speaker 2: you guys have a target?
Speaker 1: Like it's not a third world country, It's like of course.
Speaker 1: I was like, and you're like, no way, do they
Speaker 1: have Instacart here? I was like, they have Instacart everywhere.
Speaker 1: Life changing, big believer in Instacart. Instacart. If anyone wonders
Speaker 1: where my money is gone, it's intact. Yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it really is. And I don't apologize for it. I
Speaker 1: get everything on Instacart.
Speaker 2: It's so much.
Speaker 1: It's a game changer when you have five kids and
Speaker 1: not have to take them.
Speaker 2: Like school projects.
Speaker 1: I can instacart great instead of having to go to Michael's. Anyway,
Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, I think I found it,
Speaker 1: and so we started talking to the bartender.
Speaker 2: What should we call him?
Speaker 4: How about Mike?
Speaker 2: Perfect?
Speaker 1: No way, I don't know if you talk to a
Speaker 1: guy named Mike, I know, I don't know what I
Speaker 1: think I know Mike from years ago, but I don't
Speaker 1: really know.
Speaker 2: Who's guy you said.
Speaker 5: He looked like, no, he looks like oh, the the
Speaker 5: comedian guy, Matt Matt.
Speaker 1: Matt Matt was rife. Okay, so we start, Oh, I
Speaker 1: should have gone back that. When we checked into the
Speaker 1: hotel at three am, we thought it was haunted.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it was really sketch like sketch, like American
Speaker 5: horror story hotel sketch. We walk in like the gold elevators.
Speaker 5: Not a soul was there.
Speaker 4: The doors were locked.
Speaker 1: We couldn't even get in, No, couldn't get in, and
Speaker 1: it was all like the old, vintage looking furniture.
Speaker 4: So it just felt very haunted, which we kind of liked,
Speaker 4: but not at three It's kind.
Speaker 1: Of liked, but not really because we do like lucks,
Speaker 1: but we can roll with the punches. But it was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, and you booked a hotel. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we were worried.
Speaker 5: I was just worried of it was clean, and I
Speaker 5: was unsure when we checked in if it was clean. Yeah,
Speaker 5: just because you know how I am. I getting nervous
Speaker 5: when it's vintage, I get nervous.
Speaker 1: I was just worried for our lives. I didn't care
Speaker 1: about bedbugs. Like then it was like the shining Yeah.
Speaker 1: But anyway, the funny part is when we.
Speaker 2: Woke up and it was daylight, it was like the opposite.
Speaker 2: It was like a super chic boutique hotel.
Speaker 1: And we were like, oh my god, we had created
Speaker 1: because this is what we do, this whole game like
Speaker 1: story in our heads that was haunted. Anyway, back to
Speaker 1: the bar, so, I feel like the bartender Matt, We
Speaker 1: asked him, okay, oh, I think we were like do
Speaker 1: you know about Exile because we assumed like it's like
Speaker 1: Halloween horror nights if you live in La like you know,
Speaker 1: that's the place to go, and it's one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty acres.
Speaker 2: That they Yeah, so we were like, hey, have you
Speaker 2: heard of it? And he was like no, what is it?
Speaker 1: And I feel like we were like, oh, it's just
Speaker 1: like this immersive experience where you go to this extreme
Speaker 1: haunt lost in the woods and you come home like
Speaker 1: saturated in blood. Yeah, and he looked terrified, like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we're just kidding. We're just kidding kind of and ish
Speaker 1: and we're like no, no, no, it's just it's totally safe.
Speaker 2: Our friend does it.
Speaker 1: He's from here and he's putting this whole thing on
Speaker 1: and that's why we flew in. And then he asked
Speaker 1: where it was taking place, and we told him because
Speaker 1: it was outside of the city, and he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I grew up there, right, yeah, and they were like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then we were like, do you know where to
Speaker 1: find beanies?
Speaker 5: He didn't even He was kind of unsure what a
Speaker 5: beanie was, or he said, who even says beanie?
Speaker 4: Something weird like.
Speaker 1: That, right, yeah, something, And so yeah, he wasn't, and
Speaker 1: I was like, we explained the hair situation. So I
Speaker 1: guess where it kind of starts to get interesting is
Speaker 1: we're drinking, we're having fun. And then I think it
Speaker 1: was mainly you were like whispering to me. He's cute, right,
Speaker 1: I think that's where it started going, Right, he's cute.
Speaker 2: Talk to him. No, I don't even remember. And I'm
Speaker 2: so not the.
Speaker 1: Type that like, I've never seen you do this ever, right,
Speaker 1: like talks to someone one because I'm just not confident
Speaker 1: enough to do that. And yeah, he was strikingly good looking,
Speaker 1: I don't know, young, yeah, very very young.
Speaker 4: He has no idea.
Speaker 5: Who she is, right, And I think you're trying to
Speaker 5: play that on the fact that.
Speaker 4: Hopefully he would.
Speaker 2: But I think he was so that what wasn't I
Speaker 2: mean he I love it?
Speaker 1: Not at first it was I mean, I'm going through
Speaker 1: a divorce, I've been married for eighteen years. Like I
Speaker 1: think it did feel nice because I think I said
Speaker 1: to you at one point, like do you feel like
Speaker 1: he he's learning with me? And you said yes, right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So the thing with him was he he was so
Speaker 5: young that you could tell he was just uncomfortable feeling
Speaker 5: that there was any kind of attention on him, Like
Speaker 5: he kind of didn't know how to act.
Speaker 4: And at first I'm like, does he know who she is?
Speaker 4: Is that why he's being weird?
Speaker 5: But I think he was just uncomfortable by you just
Speaker 5: talking to him normally, because then we find out he
Speaker 5: has no idea who you are, right, And.
Speaker 1: It was nice that you know, you could tell when
Speaker 1: someone Yeah, he didn't know who I was. But in
Speaker 1: my mind, I was like, I feel the response I'm
Speaker 1: getting from him is he feels like I'm attractive as well,
Speaker 1: Like the same thing I'm thinking he's cute.
Speaker 2: He thinks I'm.
Speaker 1: Cute anyway, we tell him we're doing this experience or
Speaker 1: we're going to have to go, and but he was
Speaker 1: going to be there at the bar all night, and
Speaker 1: we're like, oh, you know, maybe afterwards we'll come back.
Speaker 1: Depends on, you know, if we can find beanies and
Speaker 1: if I are going to be bloodstained everywhere. Like so
Speaker 1: we leave, and I did find beanies on instacart, eight
Speaker 1: of them, well, because one pack wouldn't be enough because
Speaker 1: what if it was the wrong color.
Speaker 2: It was like one of those.
Speaker 1: Two pack colors, like so, yes, there's eight, so and
Speaker 1: they didn't fit our heads and they looked horrible and
Speaker 1: we left them behind. So whoever got those, they're brand new,
Speaker 1: so you're welcome.
Speaker 2: So we get.
Speaker 1: Ready, we meet our friend Larry for dinner, and then
Speaker 1: Larry drives us.
Speaker 2: We park on the dirt road, we walk in.
Speaker 1: Immediately they stay to Jess and I you two over
Speaker 1: here stand in the salt circle, and then Larry's taken from.
Speaker 2: Us, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we didn't see him the rest of the night.
Speaker 1: Rest of the night, like he went through the whole
Speaker 1: experience by himself, which he doesn't mind, like he goes
Speaker 1: for himself.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 1: So yeah, literally, they're not knowing we were going, but
Speaker 1: they know Justin, I don't like to be like I
Speaker 1: feel like it's one of those things you can't even
Speaker 1: tell at experiences. You can't say like they have one
Speaker 1: on one experiences at different companies and stuff that you
Speaker 1: can do, Like justin, I never do those.
Speaker 2: We always do the groups like, but they try to us,
Speaker 2: they do. But yeah, but I feel.
Speaker 1: Like they know at this point in the game that
Speaker 1: you know, in their lives that we come as a
Speaker 1: package deal. So I feel like we do get special
Speaker 1: treatment that way. They rarely split us up. Although someone
Speaker 1: took you from me on the trail, which you thought
Speaker 1: I abandoned you.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm coming out of here. You left me.
Speaker 4: I just caught up with you.
Speaker 2: She's like, you left me, Like that was at the end.
Speaker 1: That was at the end. You were gone from me
Speaker 1: for a really long time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because we drugs alone, we didn't know, you didn't
Speaker 5: know I had them, right.
Speaker 1: And I was in a group of strangers and I
Speaker 1: was alone, not a soul with me.
Speaker 2: Oh that sounds really fun.
Speaker 1: Well, I could have like waited, you know, you do
Speaker 1: Halloween whoror nights and like if you can stay back
Speaker 1: a little bit so that you don't see what's coming up,
Speaker 1: and people are going through the experience. So I got
Speaker 1: with this group and when I'm in one of these things,
Speaker 1: you know, we're pretending like, oh, they're coming. You know,
Speaker 1: they had chainsaws out, no blades, like coming at us,
Speaker 1: and you have to when they tell you to run,
Speaker 1: run and one way's a dead end, so you know,
Speaker 1: we go for it. So I'm like into this and
Speaker 1: then this guy just like pushes past me and goes
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what is happening? Like you always say
Speaker 1: the lady, like if this was real life. And then
Speaker 1: so he kind of just pushes me out the way
Speaker 1: because he's scared and he's like running, and I.
Speaker 2: Was just like, that's so weird because if.
Speaker 1: I'm ever in these things with people, and by the way,
Speaker 1: if there's ever an emergency and you're with me, like
Speaker 1: I'm a good person to be with because I will
Speaker 1: never leave you alone, like like no troll left behind.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, that was an original thing, but we're moms,
Speaker 1: so we watched trolls. So anyway, I caught up to
Speaker 1: him and I was like, he's like I was like,
Speaker 1: you totally bailed on me. I was like, we're in
Speaker 1: a group, like you're supposed to all be look out
Speaker 1: for each other. And this guy was very nice, but
Speaker 1: he was like, I'm really drunk. He's like, I'm drunk.
Speaker 1: I've never been to one of these before. I don't
Speaker 1: know what's happening. And I was like, I got you.
Speaker 1: So I forget what his name was, but I said,
Speaker 1: grab my hand. So I took his hand and then
Speaker 1: there were like people running at us with machetes and stuff,
Speaker 1: and I was like run and I totally took care
Speaker 1: of him, and then I don't know, he left me
Speaker 1: again at some point. He wasn't meant for this immersive world.
Speaker 1: But I finally found Jess and it was near the end,
Speaker 1: and then they put blood on us.
Speaker 2: But it wasn't like crazy.
Speaker 5: Bad that was done in the in the Carnival, Yes,
Speaker 5: what about the Carnival?
Speaker 2: Oh, talk about the Carnival.
Speaker 5: Okay, So the Carnival was the second portion, I guess
Speaker 5: the three levels. If you buy level two, you get
Speaker 5: to go to the carnival and the trail. If you're
Speaker 5: level three you do the tent, the carnival, the trail.
Speaker 2: So we did all three.
Speaker 5: But the carnival, you were very into the apothecary tent.
Speaker 5: It was really fun, like we're going around to the
Speaker 5: little areas, like there was what like food cards. But
Speaker 5: everyone in on the show, it's like it's a carnival.
Speaker 5: But they're all actors.
Speaker 2: You know, they're not vendors. They're actors.
Speaker 1: Darren Morgan are in their earpieces telling them what to
Speaker 1: say and like go with the storyline. And they do
Speaker 1: have certain storylines. They're even like they've rehearsed how to
Speaker 1: go right right.
Speaker 2: Like a spider.
Speaker 3: They can.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they'll play ball with you.
Speaker 1: But you seem shocked that I was like this, But
Speaker 1: I'm like this in every immersive experience.
Speaker 2: Balls to the wall.
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm trying to be nice as always.
Speaker 2: I start now.
Speaker 5: Because I'm trying to protect you publicly always.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I tell all of your deepest dark secrets.
Speaker 4: So we were drinking.
Speaker 5: Obviously we were drinking before we were drinking there because
Speaker 5: in the other tent, like the first tent, they were
Speaker 5: serving you drinks like there was a guy like making
Speaker 5: sure you had to drink in your hand at all times.
Speaker 4: So safe to say we.
Speaker 2: Were drunk, right, I've seen this worse ish.
Speaker 4: So she we finally make it to the apothecary.
Speaker 1: Tent and the guy there's like a fortune teller tent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was all actors, all apathet carry.
Speaker 5: Go to Apotha Carry and there's this young guy there,
Speaker 5: and she's just like, you're like fixated on young guys
Speaker 5: throughout this episode.
Speaker 2: It's not like I'm some old hag or you're not.
Speaker 5: But I mean they were young guys, Like what else?
Speaker 5: What am I was supposed to call them?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know the guy's name.
Speaker 1: I don't know that is I think never Apothecary, I
Speaker 1: like essential oils.
Speaker 2: You guys like great.
Speaker 4: So she just got very fond of this young.
Speaker 5: Gentleman, Jessica kind of more than kind of.
Speaker 1: We've done so many immersive experiences. I've never heard you
Speaker 1: call any of the actors, including like Billie Eilish's ex
Speaker 1: boyfriends one like you never referred to him as like young.
Speaker 5: We've never talked about him afterwards. We just for now
Speaker 5: you're making me do a podcast about them, So what
Speaker 5: do you want me.
Speaker 2: To call them?
Speaker 1: There was an actor author carry wise. He's suddenly a
Speaker 1: young actor.
Speaker 5: You were quite fine, You were quite fond of him,
Speaker 5: so you were very into trying.
Speaker 1: To evoke his storyline exactly and see how far I
Speaker 1: could push it exactly.
Speaker 5: So she was told to go find a scone in
Speaker 5: the main tent or something. So we were running around
Speaker 5: trying to find that, and then we were kind of
Speaker 5: like splitting off doing our own thing. And there was
Speaker 5: in my perspective, every time I'm turning around looking for you,
Speaker 5: I felt.
Speaker 4: Like a mom. I'm like, where is she? Where is she?
Speaker 5: You kept ending up back to this tent, and the
Speaker 5: story was kind of over with him.
Speaker 1: Well, that sounds like a hymn problem. That's not a
Speaker 1: me problem. Like if you're going to be involved in
Speaker 1: this world and you're an actor and this is your thing,
Speaker 1: like go with the storyline and if a participant is
Speaker 1: like pushing the envelope.
Speaker 2: I love when they played ball.
Speaker 1: So anyway, in the main tent, the actor that played
Speaker 1: the milk maid milk not milkmaid. In fact, I think
Speaker 1: there's a picture of you online when says the Stars
Speaker 1: come to Exile Kansas, Kansas City, there's a picture of
Speaker 1: you and the milkman.
Speaker 2: I saw Jessica, you're a star.
Speaker 1: You didn't even hear that though when he when he first,
Speaker 1: because we had to do an offering, right and bring
Speaker 1: a personal offering, and I thought it was really kind
Speaker 1: to me, since these are new and very expensive extensions,
Speaker 1: to give up one of my own.
Speaker 2: So I did. I took out one of my extensions
Speaker 2: and offered it up.
Speaker 4: Well, it fell out on the plane on the way.
Speaker 2: There, and that as well happened, so it just worked
Speaker 2: out perfectly. It did.
Speaker 1: But when I went up to do the offering and
Speaker 1: they're all in suits and it's all very formal, I
Speaker 1: don't even remember what the guy said because you didn't
Speaker 1: even hear it. But he did start to say that
Speaker 1: he thought I was robbed when I was ELIMINAI and
Speaker 1: I'm dancing with the stars and I should keep dancing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I heard kind of the end of it.
Speaker 5: I didn't hear the whole thing because we had we
Speaker 5: were separated, well not separated, but they were clearly.
Speaker 1: Darren and Morgan told him to say that. But it
Speaker 1: was really nice.
Speaker 4: How do you know the milkman wasn't watching you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, I don't know. Yeah, maybe maybe he
Speaker 1: was a big fan. Who knows, because it definitely wasn't.
Speaker 1: The bartender had no idea who I was. So after
Speaker 1: the whole show, we decide to go back to the bar.
Speaker 1: We're with our friend Larry. Now Larry drives his home.
Speaker 1: We didn't see Larry the whole show. We go back
Speaker 1: to the bar and I'm trying to explain the way
Speaker 1: I'm uncomfortably explaining on the podcast today to Larry to
Speaker 1: catch him up. Yeah, it was hard bartender like in,
Speaker 1: I think he was larring me. And Larry, who was
Speaker 1: a writer, was very into this and he was like, ah,
Speaker 1: I just I love this storyline.
Speaker 2: Let's go. So we get there.
Speaker 1: MAT's still there and I'm like we walk in and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, look we're back and didn't wear beanies
Speaker 1: and my hair's still fine. I did have blood, like
Speaker 1: fake blood all down my chin, and I look like
Speaker 1: a vampire or something. It was cute though, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that look. So how did it even come up?
Speaker 1: Like he started talking to us and we were talking
Speaker 1: about the experience and all that, and then how did
Speaker 1: we realize that he knew who I was or didn't
Speaker 1: know who I was?
Speaker 4: I think it was the realm. I'm trying to think. Honestly,
Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I just.
Speaker 5: At one point, I think he went to the bathroom
Speaker 5: and he was googling you, and he was.
Speaker 2: He had to google to see who it was. You
Speaker 2: had already googled to.
Speaker 4: Show him it was real or something weird like that.
Speaker 1: So once he did find out who I was, he
Speaker 1: was like, what would I know you from? And what
Speaker 1: was the last show you were on?
Speaker 2: What was the last show you were on? Good one,
Speaker 2: Good one, good one?
Speaker 1: And I said, oh, I was just on Dancing with
Speaker 1: the Stars, and he said, oh, my mom used to
Speaker 1: watch that.
Speaker 2: And I was like, but I don't watch that.
Speaker 1: But I don't watch that, And no, he didn't know
Speaker 1: my last name. He just knew my name was Tori,
Speaker 1: and that I think he thought, because he was young
Speaker 1: and never.
Speaker 2: Watched the show, that it was like a show that
Speaker 2: I was starring on.
Speaker 1: It's not like he didn't understand that you get cast
Speaker 1: on that show because you are someone relevant or famous
Speaker 1: or whatever in your field. So the night he just
Speaker 1: kept calling me Torri from Dancing with the Stairs.
Speaker 4: It was so good, and I want to call you
Speaker 4: that for the rest of your life, right, and.
Speaker 1: You know, we were all just like hanging out and
Speaker 1: I was just like it was just fun and cute
Speaker 1: and harmless, and I was just like this is great,
Speaker 1: Like I feel validated again, you know, like I keep
Speaker 1: like chuck chuck chug up that hill. And I was
Speaker 1: feeling really confident, and you know, I was sad, rang
Speaker 1: up photo off dancing with the stars. But then we
Speaker 1: came here and never would have happened. And then look
Speaker 1: this guy like is flirting with me. Yay, somebody's flirting
Speaker 1: with me. And then I asked about his family, and
Speaker 1: this is the point in the program where Larry said
Speaker 1: he saw my soul get crushed. Uh, when he was like, oh,
Speaker 1: he started Oh, Larry started asking him about his family
Speaker 1: because he grew up here there and anyway, it was
Speaker 1: the part when I heard that.
Speaker 2: His mom is fifty, so she's.
Speaker 1: A year younger than me that Larry said he saw
Speaker 1: like your soul get crushed, and my soul get crushed
Speaker 1: and drained from my body.
Speaker 2: It kind of did.
Speaker 4: And I was dying laughing in the corner when I
Speaker 4: heard that.
Speaker 2: I couldn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so yeah, that was pretty much all right.
Speaker 1: So it was like harmless and fun and now i
Speaker 1: know I'm attractive.
Speaker 2: Two men have mommy issues, so yay winning. Fuck me,