WEBVTT - Ep. 170: A Podcast About THC Chapters with Luke Reeves 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:03.600 Hey, Phil, Hey Ben, what's up? We got a new song? 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:05.440 Remember that song from Kayla Ray that we said we 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:07.720 were going to play. Yeah, I was. I was wondering 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:10.079 because this episode just started without the theme song, and 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:13.280 I was really confused. Yeah, I know you're confused. Behind 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:15.960 the scenes, it's ready. Have you listened to it? Yes? 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:20.840 I have, and it's beautiful. She's great. I made She's great, 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:23.840 You're great. I'm not sure about me, but it is 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:26.440 a beautiful song. We're gonna play it in its entirety 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:28.720 for this episode, just so you guys get a flavor 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:31.160 of it, and we'll we'll splice it up to make 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:33.279 a little shorter for future episodes. But here it is. 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:36.400 Do we have a name for the song? Phil, what's 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:39.760 the name of the song? I don't know. Did Kayla 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:43.040 not name it? Come on, man, well I'm Phil the 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:47.159 anthem of Phil t Engineer. Here it is no here, 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:53.200 it is here, it is your bow Where the Hunt 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:57.840 clip show, Colin Hunters New and All Hunt clamp show, 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:03.040 Working he can Shuttle or working Ben in hand we 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:08.400 congregate nice lovers of the lame. I'm full and we're focused. 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:11.440 We're just living for the search and dreaming of the 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:15.720 fire and a salty Gilburn. But we ain't coming back 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:20.479 till it's colden Lake, taking it slow so we can 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:25.240 choose straight, clean your gun, Tune your Bowl, where the 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:29.319 Hunt Collected show, Calling Hunters new and all ain't no 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:34.560 cold time told, We're no one's too good, We're all good. 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:39.800 No we got guilty engineer calling any cheers, blow hard 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:45.440 times calling, and bitter vegans crying. Remember there's always been 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:51.080 old Bright ruled by reason. Is our collective bay taking 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:56.160 it slow so we can cheer straight, clean your gun 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:59.000 in Tune your Bowl, where the Hunt Collective show and 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:05.040 calling Hunter is new and all un collective show with 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:12.480 thanks for fanks that opinions are subjective. You're listening to 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:21.079 the collecting. Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of The 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:25.120 Hunting Collective. I'm, of course Benjamin, Patrick O'Brien and Philly 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:28.000 engineers here. Phil say hello, Hey, Ben, how are you. 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:32.399 I'm good. I'm good. I'm feeling really excited about this episode, 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:35.280 but I do need We've just listened to Kaylor Ray's 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:38.720 uh the ode the anthem of Filthy Engineer for the 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:42.160 very first time. I'm that that just like gets my 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:44.919 blood up. I'm ready. It's almost like a goblin turkeys 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:46.640 at like eight yards and we just gotta get him 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:48.959 the rest of the way. That's what this show is 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.680 gonna be for me. But um, I just gotta tell 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:53.320 you this is this show is a little bit different. 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:56.560 We're not going to have like a real uh, We're 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:58.880 not gonna have a guest from Cornell University. Let me 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:02.760 just say that our guest is probably smarter than than 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:05.520 one James Tantillo. But we're not going to have the 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:08.040 regular show format. We're going to talk about I feel 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:13.840 the need, Phil to address the chapter formation of THHC. 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:16.720 The chapters that have formed, and almost a ton of 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:19.040 states will find out the exact numbers here in a minute, 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:23.400 but I feel a need to address that topic and 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:25.959 give everybody all the information they need, probably too much 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:29.880 information to join these chapters if you would like, and 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:32.280 then we can move forward from there. But I just 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.160 felt like we need to have a whole episode really 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:39.360 talking about what's happening over on Mark Zuckerbert's Facebook. Um, Phil, 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:43.200 have you joined the Montana chapter yet? No? I am 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:48.600 not on Facebook, son of a bitch. What in the hell, Phil, 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:51.880 are you would you would you consider lighten up a 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.640 Facebook page just for this purpose, Like fill the Engineer 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:57.080 probably gonna need to have a fan page or maybe 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.480 some sort of live video game streaming thing that you do. 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:03.200 I I'm I'm willing to create kind of like a 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:07.640 pseudo very light account for this for this purpose, I'm 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:09.600 not gonna there's that there will be no pictures of me. 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:11.640 I won't even use my real name. I don't even 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:13.360 think you can do that on Facebook. But I'm gonna 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:16.160 about Mango. What about Mango get to be in there. 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:19.760 If you see Mango Mango T Engineer on Facebook, that's 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:24.239 actually me, Mango T Engineer. That's a that's a T shirt. 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:27.640 Maybe we have so many talented illustrators out there. If 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:30.919 somebody wants to illustrate Mango T Engineer, I would happily 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:32.159 make a T shirt out of that. But that's what 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.359 we're gonna do, Phil, So we need you to get involved. 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:36.360 At this point. I've kept you at arms lengths from 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:38.720 the chapters because I didn't want you to get too 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:42.479 excited about what we were doing and um and try 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:44.200 to take control, because I now that's how you like 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:47.840 to do. But it's happening. It's happening. It's like an 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:51.320 underground movement, but a lot of people are talking about it. 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:54.600 So I'm i'm I want to keep it underground. But 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:57.719 for the listeners of this podcast, we're gonna we're now 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:02.240 joined by Now I'm not sure how to introduce this guy, Luke, 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:04.640 I'm not sure how to introduce you. You did tell 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:07.599 me that you and your lovely wife Lisa are the 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:11.080 first family of THHC. Do you want to expound upon 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:14.799 that at all? Well, I'm just uh, I just don't 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:17.200 think that any of the other guys that are running 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.599 these state chapters probably even ran by who they were 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.520 going to marry, you know, to you or Phil. I mean, 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:25.640 how many of their wives do you know, I dedicated? 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:28.440 I wouldn't call that dedication. I mean a point, they 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:31.240 could have just married any any old lady and just 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:34.120 with without even consulting you. And I mean, I just 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:37.600 I don't think that that would be the proper thing 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:41.040 for a follower of his cult to do. Yeah, No, 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:42.520 I agree with you. I agree with you a lot. 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:45.120 I mean, even if people came to be followers of 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:47.760 the cult with current wives, we should have some sort 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:52.440 of review process, uh to approve those wives. So you know, 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.320 I know you did call out air call as as 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:58.120 not having done that. So I do want to officially 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:00.760 say you're well, you're well welcome if you'd like it 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:04.200 to the first family Moniker now and you know, if 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:07.120 you should have additional offspring in the future or offspring 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:10.239 you know, your first offspring. We can then talk about 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:14.040 how that works at that point, but you you're welcome 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.640 to have that. So that let's make that official. Phil, 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:20.400 Can you give your blessing please? Oh? Of course, yeah, 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:24.440 thank you. Phil. So Luke Reeves in Nebraska, you are 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:30.159 the officially the Nebraska chapter leader UM and the first 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:34.720 father of THHC, the first Yeah, that's fine, that's fine, 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.479 let's go with that. So tell you like you're here too. 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:40.200 I asked on our we've created a Facebook page just 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:44.120 for the leadership of our chapter group and are called 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:48.120 and I asked you to represent that leadership group that 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:52.360 I think now is thirty people something like that, to 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:56.040 to address the entire audience about what's going on, what's 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:59.120 been progressing here, how the other people can get involved. 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:01.440 There's a lot of questions that we have people. I'm 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:03.960 sure we'll have, What is this? Why are you doing it? 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:07.400 The question I've asked many times is it legal? Are 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:11.200 we in any legal trouble? Um? Can we all get arrested? 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.560 And is there cool it? All these things that we 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:16.960 need to be asking. So I did send you like 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:21.240 a list of questions, but first just describe, like why 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:23.400 you want to do that, why you want to be 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:26.960 a part of this thing that we're that we're embarking on, 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:28.680 and what it means to you. Because there were a 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:31.000 lot of people, more than I thought, posting on our 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:34.680 little Facebook group about how much this meant to them, 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:36.640 And I take that, you know, take that very seriously, 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:38.320 take that to heart. As much as it's hard for 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:41.800 me to be serious on this topic, I do take 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:44.720 the heart that you know, people gathering and connecting over 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:49.040 this particular topic is important. UM, So give the people 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:51.360 kind of how you came to want to I want 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:53.680 to do all this well. Um, I grew up in 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:57.000 a small town in Nebraska. Um, just about everybody that 0:07:57.040 --> 0:08:00.960 I was friends with, UM grew up on ing. Uh 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:02.680 you know, I went out with my dad and did 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:05.360 that kind of that kind of thing. But as we 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:09.360 grew up, UM, you know, around there it's all everybody 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:12.840 goes out to you know, their uncle's pasture or their 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:16.119 you know, their cousins got of cornfield where they accidentally missed, 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:18.360 you know, the Auger wagon with the combines. So there's 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:21.520 a nice grain pipe out there, and and essentially kind 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:24.880 of it, uh kind of turned into basically wherever you 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:26.680 could park your truck. You know, if you could park 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.240 your truck closest to the grain pile, you'd be the 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:31.960 guy that the guy that got the best deer. And 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:34.199 uh so I just kind of got kind of got 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:36.640 away from it as I got older, um got out 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:40.800 of hunting and everything. Actually majored in Wildlife and Resources 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:44.080 at the University Corny because I met a group of 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:47.040 guys there when I went I did like hunting, and 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:50.120 they kind of had the same sort of way I 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:52.320 like to look at the same sort of way. You know, 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:55.200 didn't it wasn't fun just to go out and shoot 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:57.080 your you know, it wasn't fun just to go. It 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.240 wasn't just about that. It was going and being in 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:02.120 the nature is kind of getting back to the old 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:04.520 ways of hunting, where you know, you went a lot 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:06.600 of spotting stock. I don't even have very many friends 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:11.440 and hunt more. So I really like that. But then, 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:14.640 of course, you know, uh I grew up watching them. 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:16.680 I'd wake up on Saturday mornings and watch all the 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:18.800 hunting shows and kind of the hunting media that was 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:22.080 out there, and uh, you know, there's only so many 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.480 episodes you can watch the guys, you know, Thanking the 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:27.120 Good Lord, that the Big Why they walked up under 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:29.760 their feet, and you know, they just can't keep doing 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.319 those same episodes. But then, uh, you know, I actually 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:35.120 saw you on Joe Rogan and telling the story about 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:38.320 seeing that baby up in the mountains and the wolf 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:41.920 that wasn't and uh so that actually drew me to you, 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:44.959 um through Joe Rogan. So I started listening to the 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:48.760 Hunting Collective as soon as you started posting enough episodes 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:50.600 and stuff. I think I've had it on my phone. 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:53.840 I think it's one of my longest recurring podcasts. And 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:58.240 you know, I'm obviously a member of like BHM, remember 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:01.559 Rocky mount Help Foundation, from a Wild Turkey Association, all 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:04.040 those things, and you know there's even some local ones, 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:08.160 um like the Nebraska Big Game Conservation Association and things 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:11.280 like that, and uh, I always kind of like those 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.240 but they always kind of all think, uh to be 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:16.360 the same thing. You know, it's come by a raffle 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:18.640 for a gun, eat a meal, and that's pretty much 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:21.000 what it is. And what I saw was this was 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:24.280 an opportunity for us to uh, you know, really have 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:27.000 a bunch of like minded individuals get together and focus 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:28.800 on what we really want to do, which is to 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:32.920 recruit keep people hunting. I think, uh, if I would 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:35.160 go as far as to guess what our goal would 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.880 be for this group, it would be that, um, you know, 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:39.560 in a couple of years, we can look and note 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:42.080 the difference of the amount of hunters that are out 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:44.120 there in every state, about the people that are actually 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:47.120 starting hunting from new you know, to be a new hunter. 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.160 And that's kind of what I'm what I'm going for 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:52.000 in it, and what brought me to it is the 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.760 opportunity to just get people out hunting and get people 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:57.000 back into it. Because that's what it did for me, 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:58.640 is it got me back into it and showed me 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:00.880 how great it can be. Look guys through a different 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:03.600 lens and a more educated kind of, like you said, 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:07.360 a more nuanced way of looking at hunting, And I 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:09.280 would like to you know, bring that to as many 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:12.480 people as we can. Yeah, yeah, I mean it. We 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:15.240 were talking about this on that on our Leader admin 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:18.520 page there about how it's kind of hard to see. 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:22.120 I mean, it's hard to see generational change in anything 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:25.000 really until you're a few, maybe at least a few 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:27.160 generations out from that change. Then you can start to 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:30.200 see how things have shifted. But from from the work 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:32.160 that I've done in the seat that I sit in, 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:35.600 I can tell you that there is real shift coming 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:38.080 from emerging hunters and people that are ran new and 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:40.439 bringing their own heritage to it. That's way different than 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:42.559 what I came up in or what even you came 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:48.320 up because I also watched ESPN outdoor shows every Sunday 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.800 morning when they came on, and I remember the day 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:54.360 when those got canceled, and I remember thinking, you know, 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:57.720 things are changing. I was just newly in the hunting 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:00.480 industry in fact when they got canceled, and so I 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:03.760 feel like things have changed for you know, for many years. 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:06.280 But now and what we've seen with this show and 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:09.599 with other other things that we do, Uh, there's a 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:11.240 lot of you you out there listening that are brand new 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:13.640 to this, and so every every step you take towards 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:18.120 our community with your own perspective, you're gonna change the tide. 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:20.840 You're gonna change the foundation on which we stand. So 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:23.040 that's I think that's a big part of of why 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:24.880 anybody would want to join something like this. So I 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:28.760 appreciate I appreciate that, and we're we're saying that. Jim 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:32.280 Fleischer on he wrote a message about that last night 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:36.600 to us um about exactly that. So that's so if 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:38.840 you want to be let's let's start by saying, if 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:41.000 you want to be a leader, you you won't find me, 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:45.840 particularly personally. Maybe you'll find Mango the engineer on some 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:47.920 of these chapter pages. Feels you feel like when you 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:51.040 create your page that you'll visit the chapter pages and 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:55.960 grace them with your evervescent presence and soul. Yeah I know, Yeah, 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:59.640 of course I'll check in and see what's up, say hey, uh, 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:02.360 this whole thing is just yeah, it's really it's really cool, Ben, 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.800 And I think I don't know, no, if I'm going 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:06.640 too far is to say it might be the coolest 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.800 thing to come out of this podcast. I don't know, Man, 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:13.760 you're pretty cool, Like, oh, yes, that's right. I did 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:16.120 come out of this podcast. You're right, yeah, you were 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:20.880 nothing before this. Um. But you know what, it's also 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:24.080 cool you get to play video games with That is 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:29.040 that came out of I take it back, me me 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:32.319 me finding a Destiny two friend to play with. That 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:37.280 was the coolest thing to come out of this podcast. Yes, Um, 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:39.319 all right, man, Well let's try to start at a 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:43.920 point that makes sense again to recap for everyone. We 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:46.839 made a joke about possibly having a regional chapter when 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:49.120 we had a gentleman in the Blue Ridge Mountains that 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:51.760 needed help and we had so many people put their 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:53.960 hand up to help him. I made the joke at 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.800 all that could be our first regional chapter. And UM, 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:59.320 fast if you allow me to fast forward to this moment, 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:03.080 here we are. Um, that's that's how this began. Now 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:06.880 where we are. You're here Luke to to represent all 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.280 the leaders of our chapters. So we have a lot 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.680 of questions about like where are we I lost track 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.280 of where we were long ago. UM, and I'm hoping 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:17.400 you've got some you've been keeping track how many actual 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:21.080 Facebook pages are out there that are hunting collective chapters? 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:25.720 We have we have thirty nine pages. Um, but Nevada 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:28.800 as a chapter leader without a page yet. So that'll 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:31.640 bring us to forty. Um, so then we only have 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:35.840 ten states that weren't represented. Shout out to Patch from 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:39.200 Alabama for throwing together our Google doc sheet that's got 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.960 all of our information with track all that stuff. Can 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:45.080 you believe that, Phil, we got a Google doc? Wow? 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:47.160 Would you like to be a part of that Google doc? 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:50.120 I mean you're welcome to You're invited. You don't have 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:52.520 to be, it's just it's an open invite. If you 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:55.040 would like to be added to the Google duck. Oh yeah, 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:58.000 of course, throw me on, Throw me on that dock, baby, 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:01.240 all right, remember getting somewhere? All right, Look, so we 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:04.720 have forty pages now, um, do we have like a 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:07.800 total membership number? Now? I would counsel. I have yet 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:10.440 to counsel all the leaders that I do feel as 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:13.080 though we should grow very slowly, like we should take 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:15.560 this very We don't want this to be a thing 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.400 just for anybody to come in that wants to as 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:21.040 we've we've seen already like get dope on a good 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:25.200 hunting spot or um or just you know, just come 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:26.800 in to sell their wares or whatever it might be. 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:30.880 So I would counsel everyone. Let's let's let's grow slowly. Um, 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:33.360 but we gotta start somewhere. So where are we right 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:37.240 now with those pages? Well, I actually posted that on 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:40.240 our our admin Facebook group, and we had a guy 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:44.640 that was already trying to schedule a local public lands 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:46.880 clean up, and I said, I don't even think we 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:50.920 know how we're supposed to get members yet, let alone, uh, 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:52.880 you know, get people to go and clean public lands. 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:54.920 So I think you should slow down. But as of 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:59.560 right now, we're at eight hundred and sixty total members. 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:04.200 California's leading that with two members, and that's a shout 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:08.320 out to Jordan Rigsby and Nury Home. Um. After that, 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:12.160 we got Wisconsin with eighty seven, Arizona's got eighty four, 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:16.200 and then Washington and Colorado both have seventy six. Um, 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:19.600 those are the that would be the five biggest chapters. 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:23.840 Here in Nebraska, we've got three. Um. I've noticed a 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:25.560 lot of guys in the bigger states with a lot 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:29.080 of members are starting to double up or even some 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:31.600 chapters were talking about getting three guys to be kind 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:35.040 of the admin, uh, the kind of the mentors of 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:38.760 the mentors. What I did in Nebraska is um. Everybody 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:41.920 I added when I started the group was somebody who 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.640 and I consider I would consider an expert in some 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:48.840 aspect of the outdoors. Um I got. I got really lucky. 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:51.840 Of one of my older old friends is a guy 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:55.560 named Jordan Dameth and he actually works with He's worked 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:59.040 with Cabela's and he works with Pheasants Forever and he's 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:00.920 got his own I think they got their own clothing 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:03.840 brand called out the Obsession. But he's a you know, 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:06.640 he's worked with these big companies before, and he knows 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:08.800 how to kind of draw members and stuff like that, 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:12.240 especially coming in from Pheasants Forever. And uh, he's a 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:14.520 huge fan of the podcast. And so when I reached 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:16.679 out to him and talk to him about kind of 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:19.320 helping me with his page, he just freaked out. And 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.320 so it's pretty he's pretty excited, and I'm pretty excited 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:25.160 about that because he's one of the best hunters I've 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:28.199 probably probably ever met in my life just in the 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:30.199 way he does it. He's got young kids and he 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:31.919 finds a way to get them out there into the 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:34.360 outdoors with them and they have success. And I think 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:37.600 just a lot of people our age well who are 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:39.440 wanting to get into emergent hunting will be able to 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:40.880 learn a lot from him. And I know a lot 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:43.400 of other guys and other chapters are starting out doing 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:46.119 that too. Is they're trying to reach out to guys 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:49.000 who know probably more than them. Almost everybody I reached 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:52.680 out who knows more about hunting or fishing or anything 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:56.960 than me. Um, nobody in Nebraska knows more about gardening 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:59.080 and canning than me, though, So I can be the 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:02.080 expert in that and help people with that stuff. That's right, man, 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:06.520 that's that's yeah. Right. I'll just like stumble through how 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:11.240 to articulate how cool that is. But it is very cool. Um. 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:13.320 We've had a lot of people across like a lot 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:18.240 of people over time trying to even have people say like, 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:21.920 here's the manifesto, here's the roadmap, here's what's possible. Right, 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:24.000 And obviously, when you start something like this, you and 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:26.800 you don't really know what the roadmap looks like. There 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:29.720 are a number of questions, right, Uh, what are we 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:33.280 trying to do? Like, what do we actually do? Are 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:35.239 we just a bunch of people I want to hang 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:37.360 out and go hunting? Have you thought about that at all? 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:39.560 Have you talked to any other leaders of other chapters 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:42.760 about this kind of stuff, because I have, Like I said, uh, 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:45.800 there's lots of posts on our Facebook page of people 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:49.480 want wanting to answer those things. Well, Um, what I 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:52.000 always kind of went back to was that outdoor recreation 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:55.920 adoption model, you know, the recruit, retain, recactivate, And I thought, 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:58.119 if we were going to take and look at anything 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:00.919 in you know, our group, it would be just focus 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:03.080 on the recruit and then the reactivate. You know, our 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:06.000 biggest focus would be on recruiting new people. And I 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:08.480 think the best thing to do would be to for 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:10.879 people in these states. You know, the more experts you recruit, 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:13.399 you have those experts go out and find people or 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:15.720 you know, they know people. Now with social media, you know, 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:17.879 everybody's got a thousand friends out there, and you'll be 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:21.159 able to find, you know, people that are interested in 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:23.760 some aspect of what we're doing in these groups. And 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:25.760 I think that's a better way to grow organically than 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:28.119 to just get on and add all your friends. And 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:31.080 so I think that's what we're trying to do into 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:33.719 recruit new members and then people who who are like me, 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:35.560 who used to hunt when they were little kids. You know, 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:37.680 they'll say, hey, there were these guys are starting this 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:39.399 group and this is kind of what it's all about, 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:42.719 and so they'll get back into it. Yeah, I like it. 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:44.760 I mean I did send out to all the leaders 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:46.560 a few rules we live by and some of our 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:50.680 rules for hunting conservation. Again I was I'm gonna say 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:53.320 three four white clause. Deep can put these together as 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:55.760 a bullet points. So Phil, I'm gonna need your reaction 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:57.480 to this as well, if you'd like to add anything. 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:00.000 I really just want to engage you in this process 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:02.960 this because right now I feel like you're on the 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:05.280 outside looking in and I need you here. I need 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:09.159 you to be my confidant. An then, I I appreciate 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:11.760 you reaching out, but I, as I said on the podcast, 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:14.159 probably too many times, I don't know if I'm the 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:21.680 person fail doing that. I want this there there there, 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:24.879 there's a time and place for the non hunter's perspective. 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:28.280 Uh this further this, I'm gonna step aside. I'm gonna 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:30.280 step aside. I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna tell you 0:20:30.320 --> 0:20:32.560 to be quiet right now, and then I'm gonna bring 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:35.000 you back in later and you're gonna have a different attitude. O, yes, sir, 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:38.360