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Speaker 1: not name it? Come on, man, well I'm Phil the

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Speaker 1: anthem of Phil t Engineer. Here it is no here,

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Speaker 1: it is here, it is your bow Where the Hunt

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Speaker 1: Working he can Shuttle or working Ben in hand we

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Speaker 1: congregate nice lovers of the lame. I'm full and we're focused.

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Speaker 1: We're just living for the search and dreaming of the

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Speaker 1: till it's colden Lake, taking it slow so we can

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Speaker 1: choose straight, clean your gun, Tune your Bowl, where the

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Speaker 1: Hunt Collected show, Calling Hunters new and all ain't no

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Speaker 1: cold time told, We're no one's too good, We're all good.

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Speaker 1: times calling, and bitter vegans crying. Remember there's always been

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Speaker 1: it slow so we can cheer straight, clean your gun

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Speaker 1: thanks for fanks that opinions are subjective. You're listening to

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Speaker 1: the collecting. Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of The

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Speaker 1: Hunting Collective. I'm, of course Benjamin, Patrick O'Brien and Philly

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Speaker 1: talking about what's happening over on Mark Zuckerbert's Facebook. Um, Phil,

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Speaker 1: of the ecosystem in which he or she hunts. Pretty simple.

427
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Speaker 1: We must prioritize fair kill over fair chase, never shy

428
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Speaker 1: away from discussing the ethics and morality of our actions.

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Speaker 1: Number four, hunting should always be viewed as the sustainable

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Speaker 1: use of a natural resource. And number five, the hunting

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Speaker 1: community should strive to inclusive by promoting a diversity of

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Speaker 1: ideas and backgrounds. Uh. Yeah, So those rules govern the

433
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Speaker 1: way I've come to think of it. Those rules are

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Speaker 1: subject to change daily, hourly. Should Phil send me a

435
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 1: cool link of something to read, I'm going to change

436
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Speaker 1: them at any time. But that's that's how I approach

437
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 1: them at this point. And um, I think it's it's

438
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Speaker 1: as we start these chapters and we start down this road,

439
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 1: it's important to understand kind of the origin story of

440
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 1: why we are doing this. So what other what other

441
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 1: things we need to do? Do on here, Luke, what

442
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 1: do we need to tell people? We need to tell

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Speaker 1: people how to find these pages, that's for sure, and

444
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,199
Speaker 1: how they can get up and who the leaders are.

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Speaker 1: You want to just run us down the list of

446
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 1: let's call out our chapter leaders if we can, do

447
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 1: you have that and then also kind of how they

448
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Speaker 1: can search and find their state chapter page. Give me

449
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 1: us a second here, Phil, you fill in this moment,

450
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 1: fill with some commentary. All right, So quiet quiet Phil,

451
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: Let Luke talk. Stop interrupting him. So we got these

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Speaker 1: now in alphabetical order. Alabama, you're gonna go with Patrick Ray,

453
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Speaker 1: and that's gonna be You're gonna all of these are

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Speaker 1: gonna be called the Hunt Collective and then your state's chapter.

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Speaker 1: Outside of UM. You know we have the Blue Ridge,

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Speaker 1: we have the Coastal Plains North Carolina, UM, mid Atlantic,

457
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 1: we have a military chapter, UM, the Mountain West, New England.

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Speaker 1: Those are all gonna be grouped together, and those are

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Speaker 1: all gonna have specific leaders as of right now. UM,

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Speaker 1: Like as of right now, we don't have any leaders

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Speaker 1: for either of the Dakotas. So what we've been talking

462
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Speaker 1: about is me taking over to the South Dakota one

463
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Speaker 1: until we can find somebody get up there. We're also

464
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Speaker 1: thinking about putting North Dakota in with Minnesota. But I'll

465
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Speaker 1: read you guys the the states and their leaders. Now

466
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 1: we have Alabama, we have Patrick Ray Alaska. We have

467
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Speaker 1: A B. Rich Arizona. We have Mark Dill Arkansas. We

468
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: have Jacob Davis Blue Ridge. That's North Carolina. We have

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Speaker 1: Eric Hall, the man, the myth, the legend himself. That

470
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Speaker 1: would probably be your inaugural chapter. That would be the

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Speaker 1: Phil Taylor Memorial chapter. Um, yeah, hold on, hold on, memorial.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what do you call it when they're

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Speaker 1: still alive? All I know is memorial. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: How do you how do you want someone that's awesome

475
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: and still alive? But I don't know. I like memorial.

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Speaker 1: That's it's looking into the future. It's just planning for

477
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Speaker 1: the future. Hey, I'll tell you what, When you name

478
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Speaker 1: your first turkey, then that inaugural chapter will be named

479
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,959
Speaker 1: after your first turkey and it can be the Blank

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Speaker 1: Turkey Memorial chapter. Luke for the ideas, Hey, Luke, have

481
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: any engineering skills podcast? Absolutely none. I like what you're

482
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 1: bringing to the table here. Okay, continue, please continue, but

483
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 1: then you know, California right now is our heaviest hitter. UM.

484
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: It's got literally a quarter of our total membership is

485
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: just out of that state. UM. And they've got Jordan

486
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: Rigsby and Nuri Hong. Nuri Hong is also a member

487
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: of the Nebraska chapter. He's got a Facebook page called

488
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: Emergent Hunter Phil Yea And so I want to read something.

489
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: Thank you for that, because I want to read something

490
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Speaker 1: that he wrote here when you're done. But I was

491
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: one I was going to ask you who that exactly was. Yeah.

492
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: He because I blocked him like three times and I

493
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: was like, no, license, stay out of my page? Isis

494
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: this is so fake that doesn't even make sense? But

495
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: it wasn't. He does. Okay, it's good. It's good to

496
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,479
Speaker 1: know that's who that is, because I because he has

497
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: been posting it a couple of times that I didn't

498
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Speaker 1: I didn't know. Yeah, And if we have we actually

499
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 1: so we do have chapters down here in the United States.

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Speaker 1: We also are a multi nage group. It would be

501
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 1: multinational group because we do have two Canadian chapters. Uh.

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00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: They're led by Dave Campbell and Dan Koehler. Uh. Then

503
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: we have a Coastal Plains of North Carolina chapter, which

504
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: is read Darrel. We have Colorado that's Ryan. I'm a

505
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: butcher's last name, Supena. I'm just saying, like I know,

506
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: I'm just that's how just how I say it. I

507
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 1: don't know, that's just how I say. Florida has got

508
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: a guy named Mark Ernest Phil He did actually just

509
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Speaker 1: start Facebook for this group. He is one of the

510
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: few people that I actually didn't I didn't let him

511
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: in the admin group because I was like, oh, created

512
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: nineteen minutes ago with zero friends, you're definitely not a bot.

513
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: So I blocked him. So people are doing that field.

514
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 1: It's all a cool thing. It's worth it to let

515
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: the government track you to be a part of this group. Uh.

516
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: Georgia's leader is Mike Morris, and then we go all

517
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,719
Speaker 1: the way down to Iowa and that is Jim Slicener.

518
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: We got Kansas as Kelsey guy. We've got Michigan that's

519
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: Keith Sprague. Our military chapter is Eric Jobber. We've got

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00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: Minnesota that's UM Derek Storical. Missouri is Greg Moon and

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00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: Ben Peterson UM Nebraska, which, uh, it'll be it's just

522
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: me as of right now, but I will probably ask

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00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 1: a guy named Jordan to help me with that, especially

524
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: if we take over South Dakota, which probably way Shamon

525
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: Spencer near Hearth I don't know still still ran away,

526
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: but I was gonna say if he did end up

527
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: giving one of those cuzies from our wedding, take it

528
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 1: back because he doesn't have a group, so he can't.

529
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: I was very surprised, And let me just say that

530
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: I may have missed the email from someone in South Dakota.

531
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 1: Like I had a lot of emails, so there may

532
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: be somebody that if you're listening to this and you're

533
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: mad at us, like just just right back in and

534
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: tell me, hey, I had my hand up and you

535
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: missed me. Um. But I haven't seen anything from either

536
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: of the Dakotas, which I love hunting in your eights,

537
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: especially the southern one. And uh, I was very disappointed

538
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: in all of you in the Dakota sam Soholt is

539
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: over there. I just I don't understand. I understand. I

540
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: have a friend that played was actually Carson Wentz is

541
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: backup in North Dakota State, and uh, he hunts and stuff,

542
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: and he I said him all the information about it,

543
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: and he hadn't done anything, so well, maybe we'll get

544
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. We get Carson Wentz eventually his TV show. Yeah,

545
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: man can dream man. I think he wears Sitka through

546
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: to that. I can't do that. Hey. Oh, by the way,

547
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 1: I'm looking at my emails now we have an Australian

548
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: somebody with her hand up in Australia. Luke, I'm gonna

549
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: connect you with Zach. He's awesome Arrow On Instagram he

550
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,479
Speaker 1: said a good day Ben. I'm not gonna read it

551
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: in a but he said good day Ben, so I

552
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: just have to say it that way. He emailing about

553
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: we're coming to the the chapter leader of Australia. Mate. I've

554
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: been listening since episode three or four, and think discussions

555
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: you have the people you have on are very beneficial.

556
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: I don't always agree with him, but I love what

557
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: you're doing. I'd like to be part of it. So

558
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say to his email, Luke, all right, we

559
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: will throw that shrimp on the barbie. And then we've

560
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: got uh Nevada. Their leader is Jared Adams uh then

561
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: New England is Dwayne Tribner and ab Rich. I imagine

562
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: that they will probably end up getting some guys to

563
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: help them as that's four states they've got in there.

564
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: New Mexico is Michael Nass and Sean Manucci. It's a

565
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: good one. New York is Martin Resnick, Ohio is Brian Howell,

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00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: Oklahoma is Aaron Shaw, Pennsylvania is Mike Barrick, South Carolina

567
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: is Ryan Waters. Tennessee it's cal and Harrold. Utah is

568
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: b J. Trickler, Washington is Chris Stalker, and Wisconsin are

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00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: Mike Peterson and John still Flew. And that would be

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00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,959
Speaker 1: all of your chapters that are up and running right

571
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: now as of today on Facebook. So yep. And I

572
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: don't like Phil, we could I mean, we chose Facebook

573
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: just because it's the easiest thing. But Phil, I mean

574
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: we could do something different for you. We're willing to

575
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: change this up. Like it's all about I. I will

576
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: make a a th HC chapter burner account. I'm fine.

577
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: I'm totally fine with that. Okay, good Man, go the engineer.

578
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: I like it all right. Well, that's that's awesome, man.

579
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: I mean for that to come together that quickly, it

580
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: is amazing to me. And I was telling Eric Hall

581
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: doing some message back and forth him that he said well,

582
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: you didn't know you were so popular. It was like,

583
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the case, but I feel

584
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: I feel like this is a good representation of where

585
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: a lot of people are at in our space and

586
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: when we try to and we try to define like

587
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: our own lane within hunting, this is a good way

588
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: to to define the fact that a lot of people

589
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: are either looking to bring in new folks or are

590
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: new folks themselves that would have that are in need

591
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: of a mentor um and so I know we're talking

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00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: about how you get that generational perspective of where you

593
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: sit in and what you bring to the party. Um.

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00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: I think this particularly is something that shows exactly what

595
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people need and what they want and

596
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: where their heads are at. I'm gonna find this post

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00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: by Nary Hong. Um I would like, I said, I

598
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: was confused that it was a mergent Hunter for a while,

599
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: and like, I wonder who that is. But I think

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00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: Neary made a good post about a manifesto or a

601
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: roadmap for what's possible. He said. Um, if I if

602
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: I may be so bold, I'd like to posit a

603
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: scaffold for an ambitious vision. This is coming from the

604
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: perspective of a non hunter aspiring to be a future mentor.

605
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: I believe my journey and my evolution in beliefs and

606
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: perspectives represent a data point of and equals one for

607
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: the feasibility of this plan. I like his approach. I

608
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: I am assuming this data point will be explained in time.

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00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: He said. One. Establish ourselves become the regional platform for

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00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: new hunters. Ben the leader, has outlined the core principle

611
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: we will live by. The group has already begun to

612
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: do amazing things in less than seventy two hours. Our

613
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: mentorship is exponential at this point and we need to

614
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: keep going. Thanks to Patrick Ray for creating an amazing tracker.

615
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: We've We've mentioned that uh number two build the army

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00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: mentor and educate emergent hunters on all aspects of hunting, conservation,

617
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: land policy, environmental policy, wildlife management, ethics, etcetera. Within our network,

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00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: we will be the leading hunting mentors and conservations each

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00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: regional Slush State chapter. We will actively recruit these people

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00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: to join. At some point our mentor our membership will

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00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: become compelling for others to use as a platform for education. Three.

622
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: Deploy the Army. Let's be honest. Emerging hunters are often

623
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: stereotyped as democratic hunters. This is true for a state

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00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: like California, where I live. I was called this once

625
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: by a very generous local mentor. He loves folks like us,

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00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: quote unquote, and has taken many on hunts, even ones

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00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: who who wore man buns in their hair. His words,

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00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: not mine. I do not rock a man bun. That's

629
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: good to know. Although this is a judgment free zone

630
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: all the way around, man mun's are welcome, right Phil,

631
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: I would say they're encouraged from here on out. Okay,

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00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm adding. I'm adding to the list bullet point seven,

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00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: man bun required. No, Luke, that's don't let him. I

634
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: can go video games, but I can come man buns.

635
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: So Nuri. Nuri continues the point of all of this,

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00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: Our army is a bridge to people who do not hunt,

637
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: We do not understand, who do not understand hunting ethics,

638
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: who do not understand how conservation works, who do not

639
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: understand land policy, and do not do not understand everything else, etcetera. Essentially,

640
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: this was me before I started this journey. What I've

641
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: learned has changed my worldview. We can use this army

642
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: as a voice for educating others and crossing the political bridge.

643
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: We can unite what is divided in the name of

644
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: conservation and wildlife management policy. We don't have to convert

645
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: everyone to become hunters, we don't want that. But we

646
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: can get them to like us and to become allies

647
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: on common causes. We can use our army to achieve this.

648
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: Create the th h see emergent hunting training ranches for

649
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: wilder conservation, think back forty for new hunters. Establish a

650
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: new nonpartisan political movement, the Land of Nature Party. Elect

651
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: the presidential ticket of Ronnello Slash a lot being eagle

652
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: in select bend the leader for Secretary of Interior? Who

653
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: is in? Uh? Phil? Are you in for all of that?

654
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 1: There's six six really important points there? But yeah, yeah, sure,

655
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: I mean I think that there might be there might

656
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: be some competition for Secretary of the Interior. Um who

657
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: was second? Is that cow? It was it? I was

658
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: thinking Caw for Interior. That doesn't mean yeah, I'll be

659
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: maybe Uh, I don't know what I'll be. I'll just

660
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: be in there somewhere, hanging out. I'd like to be

661
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: maybe a lobbyist. You'll you'll you'll be transportation like Pete

662
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: Bododa Buddha. They just throwing him a bone. Here you go,

663
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: you get transportation, Secretary of Education. Well a lot of that,

664
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: even though number six I probably am not into the

665
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: other the other things, maybe not even number five. I

666
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,479
Speaker 1: don't think we need to start a land nature party,

667
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: although that'd be fun. Um, particularly what nerd he's saying

668
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: around deploying this activity is important to me and to

669
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: get it out there and have people understand that there's

670
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 1: a common cause here, regardless of however you label yourself

671
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: or are labeled by others. Uh So, I like that.

672
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,919
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of other really important messages from people

673
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: who are just talking about how this is has made

674
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: them feel. Um, I want to read John Stealth, You

675
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: Stealth Lou. I'm sorry everyone, I'll always get your name wrong.

676
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: That's just how it is. It's kind of a right

677
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 1: of passage here for me to funk up your name.

678
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: I said, hey, everyone, I just want to take a

679
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: minute and talk about what has happened in the last

680
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: few days. I've been doing this hunting and fishing thing

681
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: for about forty years. This quote unquote thing has re

682
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: energized me. I was telling Mike Peterson, the other Wisconsin

683
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: chapter leader, that I'm as excited for this as I

684
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: was when I booked my first paying guide date for

685
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: muskie fishing years ago. As the last few days have

686
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: went on, I feel like every one of us could

687
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: show up at an outing and shake hands and talk

688
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: like we've been friends for years. I think we're all

689
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: coming at this hunting and fishing thing from just about

690
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: the same place. Thanks for doing this. I'm I'm likely

691
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: the old man river in this group, but hey, someone

692
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: has to be. I really believe we can make a difference,

693
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: even if it is just picking up some trash in

694
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: a parking lot. This is going to be a hell

695
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: of a lot of fun. Uh yeah, man, I I

696
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: just want to make sure that like, those words are

697
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: probably more important than any words that I could say. Um,

698
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: and I said this on the page there, that I

699
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: that that gives me a little bit of a little

700
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: bit of hope for the future and some satisfaction in

701
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: the work. So I hope that does for everybody else. Now,

702
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: anything else that I'm missing, Luke, Before we get to

703
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: our little uh the way, We're gonna round this all

704
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: out and give people a chance to do something cool. Um,

705
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: No you miss anything here. I think we got it

706
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: pretty much all squared away. One thing UM I had

707
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: talked about doing with Jordan here in Nebraska that I

708
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: was going to try to get your blessing for or

709
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: see what you thought about it is UM, a lot

710
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: of guys just on the group have been talking about

711
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: how to get membership and things like that. And Uh,

712
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: I happen to be lucky enough that just through the

713
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: kind of connections I made in college and stuff, I've

714
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: got friends that work in the Rocky Mountain Help Foundation

715
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: and then at work and fettans for everything's like that.

716
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: And so what Jordan and I were thinking about doing

717
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: is either for having like a podcast or a blog

718
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: that would just be talking to these groups about how

719
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: to how they recruit, you know, how how do you

720
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: go about having an auction, how do you go about

721
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: having a fundraiser, How do you work on your membership?

722
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 1: When do you start you know, when do you start

723
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: looking for When do you start you know trying to

724
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,959
Speaker 1: you know, actually like a have projects that you're gonna

725
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: do that will be in your name? Do you need

726
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: to be an LLC? All those kinds of things that

727
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 1: that you don't really think about when you just want

728
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: to get a bunch of people together who like to

729
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: hunt and to get people to start hunting. So I

730
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: don't know, Um, it would be one of those things.

731
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: We'd probably just make it available to the guys that

732
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: are on our our Facebook pages and on on our thing,

733
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: and we would just talk to them and like that

734
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: would just kind of be a thing we would do

735
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: to try to make it easier because I don't know

736
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: have any mostly for me, because I don't have any

737
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: idea how to recruit. I don't know how to do

738
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: anything like that it knew people to come on. I

739
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: think that's the problem is, Yeah, a lot of us

740
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: are really good at kind of understanding what this is about,

741
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: but not a lot of us really know how to

742
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: go about making it happen. And so that's kind of

743
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: something that I would like to learn how to do

744
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 1: because I think this could be huge. I think this

745
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: could be our version of the Rocky mountainel foundation of

746
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: that we could be. We could be that big just

747
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 1: with the momentum that we have kind of with everything

748
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: that you guys going, I think we could draw in

749
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: members the right kind of members and do just huge things.

750
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: I mean, look at the way that we affect the

751
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: ballot box. Now, just why you guys bringing up and

752
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: stuff you know on your podcast And just imagine now

753
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: if you've got a whole group to go besides go

754
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: with that podcast to help get these you know, the

755
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: bad bill around up, get all of those thrown out.

756
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: And I just think that, you know, this guy could

757
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: really be the limit with this and I'm just so

758
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: excited to be a part of it. I'm just just

759
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: super phil Phil. Uh, do we need to get We

760
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: should probably get a lawyer on legal representation? Yeah, Luke. Uh,

761
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: the ambition is incredibly inspiring. That's I mean, I I

762
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: at first I was gonna like say something sarcastic here

763
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: about a lawyer and how you know, meat Eater should

764
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: probably probably have a meeting with with Steve or somebody.

765
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: But I don't know, man, That's just that's just a

766
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: great thing to to to strive for. And I don't

767
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: I don't have anything. I don't have anything snarky to say.

768
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: I don't I don't listen this. Uh, when you start

769
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: down a path like this, you just gotta keep going forward.

770
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: That's that's the best you can do. That's about all

771
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: you can do. UM. So we'll keep doing that. But yes,

772
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: we're absolutely want to feed I. I sit on the

773
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: board of directors for b h A and we've seen

774
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: this exact thing happen in that group. Like you get,

775
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: people are passionate about this thing, they're passionate about gathering

776
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: UM and you just have to let that passion lead

777
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: the way. And you know, every once in a while

778
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: you'll trip and fall down, but as long as you

779
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: have that passion, you can get back up. So one

780
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: thing that we're going to try to do for everybody

781
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: is we're gonna have a little we're gonna call it

782
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 1: a Field Days program because obviously this all started because

783
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: somebody needed a mentor and everybody listening to this podcast

784
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: wanted to step up or or a large number of

785
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: people wanted to step up. So that was yeah, kind

786
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 1: of the beginning here. So hat tip to that beginning,

787
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: we started we want to start a Field Days program. Now,

788
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: this is each of the chapter leaders will be running

789
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: this themselves and they'll be compiling things. So if you're

790
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: not in these Facebook pages and part of the conversation,

791
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna miss out. But we do this at Meat Eater,

792
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: and we did this with First Light um internally, but

793
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: it's something I think we can we can make work

794
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: for this whole thing. And basically, um, we're going to

795
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: do something called I guess i'll call it Field Days.

796
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: What we could be? Tell me it's right into t

797
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: a c to meet here and tell me that could

798
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: be something cooler for a name. Maybe Phil has a name.

799
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: The Inaugural Filthy Engineer Mentor Contest Memorial Tournament. Yeah, we'll

800
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 1: we'll turn that into a an AFRONAM. It'll be fine. Well, yeah,

801
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: we'll workshop it. We'll workshop it anyhow. What this is

802
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: gonna do is incentiveive people go out there at the

803
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: very at the very least, go out there and teach

804
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: people what they need to know about hunting. Bring bring

805
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: new people in and then teach them. That's that's basically

806
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do as a foundational effort here. So, UM,

807
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: here's what's gonna work. If you go out if you're

808
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: are a member or are you're part of a Facebook

809
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: page for one of the forty plus the chapters we've

810
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: got going out there, uh, and you join and you

811
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: take someone hunting someone brand new. They don't have to

812
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: be brand new, they have to be in need of membership.

813
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: But brand new would probably be what we're shooting for.

814
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: But somebody is in need of mentorship, and you're out

815
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: there and you're willing to do the mentoring, join one

816
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: of these chapter pages. Take that person or person's hunting,

817
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: Take a picture of yourself, send it in to that

818
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: Facebook page that's associated with the state or regional chapter.

819
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: Once you've done that, describe the hunt, what was the

820
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: hunt about, Where did you go? How long? If you

821
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: do an all day hunt, you accumulate what's called two

822
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 1: raffle tickets. If you do a half day hunt or

823
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: a part of a day hunt, you get one. Over time,

824
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: each chapter will amass a number of let's say raffle

825
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: tickets or days in the field, and each chapter will

826
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: then be able to come to us at the end

827
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: of the year and say we've counted this many days

828
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: mentoring in the field, and we will have five awesome prizes,

829
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: including all types of things we're currently working out. Some

830
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: chapter leaders had a bunch of good ideas for prizes,

831
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: but at the end of the year, we'll draw these

832
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: prizes based on the number of field days total for

833
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: each chapter will be the number of raffle tickets you

834
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 1: get in the hat. So then we will draw raffle

835
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: tickets out of the hat, and if the chapter is drawn,

836
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 1: the top mentor of that chapter will get that prize.

837
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: So hopefully that's that's a little bit convoluted field. Does

838
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: that make sense to you? I know this is the

839
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: first that you're hearing it, so as always, you're my

840
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: proxy for everyone else listening. No, that's a great idea. Okay,

841
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: Now we have a reason for being right. We have

842
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: the general reason that that these chapters are built to

843
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 1: mentor people, built to bring in new hunters along the way.

844
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: As Luke mentioned, we're we're gonna go probably down a

845
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: million rabbit holes and have all kinds of things to

846
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 1: figure out. But but that's the basis. So if you

847
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: joined one of these Facebook pages, it doesn't take much.

848
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: If you have to make a Facebook page, just do it.

849
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: It's fine. Turn off the tracking and the data, don't

850
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: watch what's that, don't watch the social media dilemma or

851
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: whatever that. Don't watch that because you won't want to

852
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 1: join um. But get in there and join, and then

853
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: all you gotta do is track your hunting with a

854
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: new hunter and you'll be entered to win some cool

855
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: stuff and um, you'll be entered into an awesome program

856
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: that kind of knows where it's going, but you'll be

857
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: a part of the beginning of it. Any commentary, Phil

858
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: official comments, Uh, as an employee of Meeting Incorporated, No,

859
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 1: this was I still can't believe this is happening for

860
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: something that started as a joke about a cult. Um.

861
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 1: I got so many messages from people back then saying,

862
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 1: please tell Ben to stop with the cult bullshit. Um,

863
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: but I think it's flowered into something real and uh

864
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: and you know, just below cult status. So I think

865
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: we're in. I think we're clear. I think we're in.

866
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: We're still green. Everything's fine. Um, but it's it's just

867
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: it's really it's I mean, honestly, it's wild to see

868
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: this happen. Sometimes I forget the reach of your show,

869
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: Ben and everything that everything that you've talked about on

870
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: this podcast throughout the last couple of years. So it's

871
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: it's cool, It's it's awesome, Okay, Luke anything. Well, Actually,

872
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: we had some guys get locked out of their pages

873
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: and stuff for using the cult language, I know came

874
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: back to bite as finally, So uh, to go back

875
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: to what you were we were talking about at the beginning,

876
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: um with you know, the First Family and everything. You've

877
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: had one guy on the page who said that we

878
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: should change the name, and then you had another guy

879
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: on the page who posted a gift of William Wallace

880
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: yelling hold and said never give in to Facebook. And uh,

881
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: I would think that the guy who posted a gift

882
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: of William Wallace would be your the guy you'd want

883
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: to follow, you know, the leader probably of those fans,

884
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: not the guy who's just changing the name. Yeah, I'm

885
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: picking up who that guy might have been. Yeah, I

886
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: mean you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, listen, I

887
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: I you know, I'm not gonna let Zuckerberg hold us

888
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: down if we want to be A cult is just

889
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 1: a word. It doesn't have to be. It's a bad connotation,

890
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: you know, just like air fifteen or trophy hunting. It's

891
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 1: just a word. Was a group of crows is called

892
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: a murder, No one gets at them for that be Yeah,

893
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: we wouldn't be you know, THHD murder. Yeah, like we're

894
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,479
Speaker 1: not doing that, So you can be grateful for that's

895
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: all right, Well listen if you're here for some kind

896
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: of like you know, in depth conversation about a very

897
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: important issue. I'm sorry we took a break from that,

898
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: but we felt like this needed to be addressed, This

899
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: needed to be explained away, and we need to kind

900
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: of set a path forward. So what we're gonna do

901
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: from now on in the show is give weekly updates.

902
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: We're gonna bring somebody on that's a leader, can ask

903
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: him what the hell is going on, what they're doing,

904
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: why they're doing it, um, and where to continue our

905
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: little field days competition throughout the year. And we'll continue

906
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: checking in and seeing where this goes. Uh. Eventually we

907
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: may have to have a lawyer on to give an

908
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: official statement on behalf of Phil and I. We may

909
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: I may and be in j I may be jailed

910
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: and you guys may have to bail me out. You

911
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 1: might have to raise money via some sort of Venmo

912
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: account or something. I don't know. Uh, these are this

913
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: is just me. I'm just talking out loud. Phil, just

914
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: talking out loud. Okay, we got anything here? Well, I

915
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: mean I gotta say this. You say you're just talking

916
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: this out that that was a lot of detail. It's

917
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: almost like you've kind of this is premeditated, like like

918
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: you've you've you've you've run this through your head and

919
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 1: you've got some sort of master plan. Unnever you speak

920
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: on that, please no comment. But every call has a martyr,

921
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: and Uh, if I gotta go down, I'll go down

922
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: the swinging alright, Phil, it sounds great. I'll miss you. Alright, Well,

923
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 1: say bye to everybody and listen to for the second

924
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: time in this uh brief episode, Kayla Ray singing the

925
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: Phil t Engineer memorial theme song. I swear to gay,

926
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 1: but I swear to God benefit if if someone plays

927
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: us at my funeral, I'm gonna be curious. Say bye, Phidbye, Clean,

928
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: You're gone, and tune your bowl Where the hun clecked

929
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,959
Speaker 1: show calling Hunters New and all the Hunt collect show,

930
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: Working pig and shovel or working paining hand. We call

931
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: agate nice lovers. I'm Bela and we're focused. We're just

932
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: living for the search, dreaming of the fire and a

933
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: saltic gilburn By. We ain't coming by to hell. It's

934
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: colden Lake taking its slow, so wen shoes straight. Clean,

935
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: You're gone. Tune your bowl Where the Hun clecked show,

936
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: calling hunters new and all ain't no cold, I'm told

937
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: we're knowing's too good. We're all good. No, we got

938
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: fuelty engineer calling any shooters, blow ared times calling and

939
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: bitter vegans crying. Remember there's always been Old Brian ruled

940
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 1: by reason. Is our collected bay taking it slow so

941
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: we can shoot straight? Clean your gun to your ball.

942
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: Where the huncollective show and calling hunters new and all

943
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: the uncollective show where facts or facts and opinions are subjective.

944
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: You're listening night to the Collecting