WEBVTT - How Shareholders Are Destroying The Tech Industry

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<v Speaker 1>All Zone Media. Oh hello, fancy meeting you here. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>at Zetron and this is better offline. Also in the

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<v Speaker 1>previous episode, I walk through how General Electrics Jack Welch

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<v Speaker 1>created the disgraceful terms of modern capitalism. A corporate mindset

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<v Speaker 1>where thousands of people are laid off the boost revenues

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<v Speaker 1>when a company is making millions or billions of dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in profits, and an era of growth at all costs.

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<v Speaker 1>Corporations that create nothing but shareholder value, run by an

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<v Speaker 1>entire class of managerial pencil pushers that only really care

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<v Speaker 1>about hitting analyst targets. In this episode, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>show you how bad that's been, specifically for the tech industry.

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<v Speaker 1>As ever, please check out the episode details for an

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<v Speaker 1>URL that has sources for everything I'm talking about in

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<v Speaker 1>this and future episodes. Sorry to repeat myself on that one,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's really important. You know. I did not just

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<v Speaker 1>make all of this up anyway. A couple weeks back,

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<v Speaker 1>Open ai CTO, Mira Murati spoke for nearly an hour

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<v Speaker 1>at Dartmouth University, where she recently accepted an honorary which,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, means fake doctorate of Science for and

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<v Speaker 1>I quote, pushing the frontiers of what neural networks can do.

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<v Speaker 1>This is, by the way, very funny. It's very funny indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>because other than when she graduated with her Bachelor of

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<v Speaker 1>Engineering from the Thayer School of Engineering and for one

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<v Speaker 1>year of her career, Mira Murati has only ever been

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<v Speaker 1>a manager, specifically a project manager, somebody who doesn't write

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<v Speaker 1>code or build software, but points at things and says, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we should, we should do that. After graduating, Mira Murati

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<v Speaker 1>worked briefly at a French aerospace company called Zodiac as

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<v Speaker 1>an advanced concepts engineer before joining Tesla in twenty thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a product manager before moving to Leap Motion from

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen to twenty eighteen, where she was the VP

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<v Speaker 1>of Product and Engineering. A deceiving title again does not

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<v Speaker 1>mean she actually wrote code for a company that also

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<v Speaker 1>burned tens of millions of dollars on a gesture based

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<v Speaker 1>control system for a Mac, only to be acquired for

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<v Speaker 1>thirty million dollars in twenty nineteen at about a tenth

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<v Speaker 1>of its all time value. Her role would have undoubtedly

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<v Speaker 1>involved wrangling gang charts, weird product management stuff, just Google

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<v Speaker 1>it and spec sheets rather than lines of code in

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<v Speaker 1>a text editor. After leaving Leap Motion, mir Murti's career

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<v Speaker 1>trajectory accelerated in a way that's kind of hard to explain.

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<v Speaker 1>She moved to open Ai as its Vice president of

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<v Speaker 1>Applied AI in Partnerships, and was promoted to SVP of Research,

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<v Speaker 1>Product and Partnerships in twenty twenty, and then, at some

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<v Speaker 1>indeterminate time in twenty twenty two, became its Chief Technology officer,

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<v Speaker 1>despite having from what I can tell, exactly one academic

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<v Speaker 1>credit to her name in a list of twenty or

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<v Speaker 1>so people. By the way, open ai co founder Ilia Suitskaeva,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're curious, he has overall one hundred, and I

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<v Speaker 1>realized this is the kind of dick measuring stuff might

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<v Speaker 1>not matter, but in this specific case, for the CTO

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<v Speaker 1>of an organization that's about researching how to build AGI,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd think you'd have an academic But don't worry. There's

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<v Speaker 1>many more annoying things about mirror Murti. During her speech,

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<v Speaker 1>she spoke about how artificial intelligence could kill creative jobs,

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<v Speaker 1>and I quote that shouldn't have been there in the

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<v Speaker 1>first place, something you'd only say if you'd never created

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<v Speaker 1>anything in your entire goddamn life putting that aside, and

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<v Speaker 1>trust me, I'll get to it. Murti, much like Sam Altman,

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<v Speaker 1>seems like she's full of shit, rambling in the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>of ways about how the societal impacts of this work

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<v Speaker 1>are not an afterthought and that you kind of have

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<v Speaker 1>to build them alongside the technology. They are real fucking technical.

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<v Speaker 1>The chief technology officer of the most prominent startup in

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<v Speaker 1>America appears to not know that much about technology, to

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<v Speaker 1>the point that a couple months back, she was unable

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<v Speaker 1>to answer whether open AI's generator video product was trained

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<v Speaker 1>on publicly available data, making a face that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>looks like she was doing a vinegar flavored wasp. And

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<v Speaker 1>I've linked to this. You know the face if you've

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<v Speaker 1>looked it up already. It's not a great one. She

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<v Speaker 1>could have been lying, but Maurati rarely demonstrates any kind

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<v Speaker 1>of technical depth, dancing around answers with these vague, weird explanations.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're wondering why the host didn't push back

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<v Speaker 1>at her at all, it's because the host at Dartmouth,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, was Jeffrey Blackburn, a career manager at

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<v Speaker 1>Amazona recently joined door dashes, bored. Maurati's a weird one.

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<v Speaker 1>I've watched a lot of her interviews, a lot of them,

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<v Speaker 1>hours of them. They're all so boring. I cannot explain

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<v Speaker 1>how boring they are. But they're not boring because I'm stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>That's another problem. They're boring because they're meandering, they're nonspecific,

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<v Speaker 1>and the people interviewing her are just like, yeah, wow, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>that's crazy. Yeah, so you think AI is good, then

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<v Speaker 1>oh shit, that's the criticism she's got. She never, much

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<v Speaker 1>like mister Raltman, seems to be in front of anyone

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<v Speaker 1>who knows what they're talking about or is capable of

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<v Speaker 1>asking those questions. And yes, the media interviewing these people

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<v Speaker 1>are limited. They have remits about what they can and

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<v Speaker 1>can't say. I don't speak to the exact fundament of it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it isn't great. But it's very goddamn worrying that

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<v Speaker 1>the future of the tech industry is in the hands

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<v Speaker 1>of people who don't seem to know much about tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Open Ai is run by Sam Altman, an unqualified non

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<v Speaker 1>technical founder who has conned his ways to the heights

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<v Speaker 1>of Silicon Valley. Google is run by San darp As Shai,

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<v Speaker 1>an MBA and a former McKinsey management consultant that's overseen

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<v Speaker 1>the destruction of Google's core products, laid off tens of

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of people, and pushed Google to shoehorn generative AI

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<v Speaker 1>into the core search product with disastrous results including telling

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<v Speaker 1>you to put glue on pizza and eat rocks and

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<v Speaker 1>so on and so bloody forth. Microsoft is run by

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<v Speaker 1>sachy in Adela, yet another MBA that has in his

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<v Speaker 1>tenure overseen layoffs of over thirty thousand people and pushed

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<v Speaker 1>his company deep into the deeply unprofitable and unsustainable world

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<v Speaker 1>of generative AI while laying off people from the Xbox group,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one of the only beloved things Microsoft has left,

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<v Speaker 1>and also wasting a lot of time on the metaverse.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll get to him. Amazon CEO Andy Jesse, who

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<v Speaker 1>replaced Jeff Bezos. Surprise surprise, he's another NBA and he

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<v Speaker 1>started Amazon as a marketing manager in nineteen ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 1>To his credit, he came up with the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon Web Services, which is the cloud platform that a

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<v Speaker 1>chunk of the Internet uses. And by the way, ten

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<v Speaker 1>other people also came up with the idea, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he was made CEO of Amazon in twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>at which point a man called Adam Seleipski was made

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<v Speaker 1>CEO of Amazon Web Services and guess what, he also

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<v Speaker 1>has a Harvard MBA. But then he was replaced in

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<v Speaker 1>March by another guy who also had an MBA, this

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<v Speaker 1>time from Northwestern. It's always these management guys, the most

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<v Speaker 1>technical and one of the most profitable parts of Amazon,

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<v Speaker 1>their cloud storage and processing product. And I'm crushing it

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<v Speaker 1>down for the podcast Calm Down. If you super technical,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd think that would be a tech guy. You think

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<v Speaker 1>that would be someone who actually knew what they were

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<v Speaker 1>got down talking about other than the osmosis of being

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<v Speaker 1>in rooms with people who actually do the work. And

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<v Speaker 1>the reason I'm harping on about this is the founding

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<v Speaker 1>story of Amazon Web Services. Maybe one of the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>lies in texts history. I can find no maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>little specific evidence as to who the actual architect of

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<v Speaker 1>AWS was. Just this hindless muling about how Andy Jasse

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<v Speaker 1>and NBA built one of the most important pieces of

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<v Speaker 1>technological infrastructure of all time. It's just bollocks. And Jesse

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<v Speaker 1>regularly uses the Royal we to talk about how we

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<v Speaker 1>he built Amazon Web Services, despite the fact that he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't build shit. He didn't build anything at all. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a manager, managing managers. Jeff Bezos, who was the CEO,

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<v Speaker 1>who was another manager. It's all managers, all managers doing

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<v Speaker 1>a management centipedeugh And what little I can find suggests

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<v Speaker 1>that much of the actual technical work to build Amazon

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<v Speaker 1>Web Services was done by people like then CTO Alan

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<v Speaker 1>Vermulen and Brewster Kale, who founded a company called Alexa

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<v Speaker 1>Internet that Amazon acquired in nineteen ninety nine. There was

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<v Speaker 1>instrumental to spinning up the services that became Amazon Web Services,

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<v Speaker 1>two names that I've never really read in the many

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<v Speaker 1>many articles crediting Jasse as the architect behind Amazon's most

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<v Speaker 1>profitable service, yet arguably the most Welsh pilled management based

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<v Speaker 1>Silicon Valley staple is Meta, a company dominated by NBA's

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<v Speaker 1>like Sheryl Samdberg. It's first chief operating officer, who has left,

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<v Speaker 1>replaced by a guy called Javier Olivan who also has

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<v Speaker 1>an NBA. Facebook's Chief People Officer Lori Gohler, and the

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<v Speaker 1>chief privacy officer Michael Protty, all NBAS. Yet what makes

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<v Speaker 1>Meta such a Welshian nightmare is its dedication to making

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<v Speaker 1>its products worse in the search of growth, with career

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<v Speaker 1>product managers like CMO Alex Schultz and head of product

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<v Speaker 1>Naomi Glit dominating the company from its earliest days, and

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<v Speaker 1>creating a culture that focused entirely on gaming Facebook's metrics.

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<v Speaker 1>To please Mark Zuckerberg's demand for perpetual ten percent year

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<v Speaker 1>over year growth in core growth metrics, Meta has laid

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<v Speaker 1>off of a thirteen percent of its workforce in the

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<v Speaker 1>last year, over eleven thousand people, despite the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>the company has been profitable for over a decade, even

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<v Speaker 1>while plunging tens of billions of dollars into Zuckerberg's reality

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<v Speaker 1>Labs Metaverse division and authorizing fifty billion dollars in stock buybacks.

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<v Speaker 1>In many ways, Zuckerberg is Welsh perfected the CEO of

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<v Speaker 1>a company that provides a continuously deteriorating service that prints

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<v Speaker 1>money or gaming its metrics, such as no longer reporting

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<v Speaker 1>its monthly active users on earnings to make Wall Street

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<v Speaker 1>believe that it's a quote good company. It doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>that Meta has effectively given up on trying to solve

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<v Speaker 1>its massive problems with AI generated spam and scams and

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<v Speaker 1>four h four media reports that Meta has turned its

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<v Speaker 1>back on the experts that helped bolster its content moderation

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<v Speaker 1>services sadly, and this really matters because the markets still

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<v Speaker 1>love Meta, even though they punish the company briefly in

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<v Speaker 1>recent earnings for a and I quote light forecast, where

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<v Speaker 1>it quote raised investor expectations due to its improved financial

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<v Speaker 1>performance in recent quarters, leaving little room for error. According

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<v Speaker 1>to the NBC, a business network that Jack Welch owned

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<v Speaker 1>a large chunk of through his acquisition of NBC as

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<v Speaker 1>part of a deal the General Electric acquired RCA Corp.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen eighty five, it all goes back to Welch,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's also important to add that despite all of

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<v Speaker 1>these layoffs and these light forecasts, Meta executives received bonuses

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<v Speaker 1>when they fired thousands of people in twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Google isn't much better since san Dar Pashai, a career

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<v Speaker 1>product manager in NBA, came CEO in twenty fifteen. Google's

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<v Speaker 1>culture is soured, giving Android inventor Andy Ruben ninety million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in twenty eighteen to leave the company after credible

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<v Speaker 1>sexual misconduct claims causing a massive walkout over Google's forced

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<v Speaker 1>arbitration clauses over harassment and discrimination that muzzles victims and

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<v Speaker 1>empowers the fucking assholes to hide behind Google and gives

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<v Speaker 1>Google the ability to hide its failure to police these people.

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<v Speaker 1>This happened in the same year that others walked out

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<v Speaker 1>over Google's work with the Pentagon. Under Peshai, Google has

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<v Speaker 1>been fined billions of dollars by the European Union for

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<v Speaker 1>anti trust violations around its Android operating system, and has

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<v Speaker 1>found itself embroiled in a three year long anti trust

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<v Speaker 1>battle with the US Department of Justice around its anti

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<v Speaker 1>competitive approach to keeping Google Search on top, including paying

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<v Speaker 1>Apple twenty billion dollars in twenty twenty two to the

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<v Speaker 1>be the fault search engine on Safari, their web browser.

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<v Speaker 1>Under Peshai, Google has replaced hard working lifers that built

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<v Speaker 1>the very foundation of the company with contractors and on

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<v Speaker 1>the higher levels scumbags cretins like Prabagar Ragavan and Jerry Dishler,

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<v Speaker 1>the latter of which transparently intimidated the Google Search team

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<v Speaker 1>to increase ad revenue generate by search In emails revealed

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<v Speaker 1>in the trial from March twenty nineteen, you'll be shocked

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<v Speaker 1>by the way to hear that Jerry Dishler has an MBA. Yet,

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<v Speaker 1>as with Meta, and as with all of these companies

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<v Speaker 1>excluding open Ai, which is not public, Google prints money

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<v Speaker 1>knitting over twenty three billion dollars in its first quarter

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four earnings the same ones were announced its

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<v Speaker 1>first dividend, and a seventy billion dollar stock buyback program.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter that Google Search is incredibly broken as

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<v Speaker 1>a result of Google's constant drive to increase revenue, or

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<v Speaker 1>that Google has decided to generate results on Search using

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<v Speaker 1>unreliable generative AI that generates insane answers. Alphabet Google's holding

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<v Speaker 1>company has seen its stock continually rise since much of

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<v Speaker 1>this year, even after the eating rocks thing. Doesn't that

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<v Speaker 1>fill your veins full of bile? How doesn't it make you?

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<v Speaker 1>It just really really makes me angry. It makes you

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<v Speaker 1>very annoyed. I don't like this. I don't like that

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<v Speaker 1>you and I I guess I'm a podcast that's probably not.

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<v Speaker 1>But regular people like you. You go to a job,

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<v Speaker 1>you do the job. If you do the job badly,

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<v Speaker 1>you get shit canned. Fair enough, That's what happens, right,

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<v Speaker 1>These guys, they get paid through the nose for it,

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<v Speaker 1>they get appreciate it, they get a go get them

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<v Speaker 1>boy for fucking everything up. It's just disgusting. It makes

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<v Speaker 1>me very upset. And as I've said previously, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a special kind of financial nihilism that the market continues

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<v Speaker 1>to reward, one that's poisoned Silicon Valley and elevated men

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<v Speaker 1>and woman like Sam Altman and Mira Murrati the positions

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<v Speaker 1>of power, despite the fact that neither of them actually

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<v Speaker 1>seems to build technology. Altman himself is a CD charlatan,

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<v Speaker 1>one that's growing incredibly powerful in the valley despite not

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<v Speaker 1>really having done anything. And it shouldn't surprise anyone that,

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<v Speaker 1>as I mentioned previ one of Altman's nine recommended books

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<v Speaker 1>is Winning by Jack Welsch, a book where Welch claims

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<v Speaker 1>that Winning companies and meritocracies and lionizes Kenneth Yue of

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<v Speaker 1>three m's Chinese operations for and I quote throwing out

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<v Speaker 1>the phony ritual of annual budgeting and replacing it with

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<v Speaker 1>Sky's The Limit dialogue about Opportunities, claiming that budgeting at

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<v Speaker 1>three M is not about delivering good enough plans and

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<v Speaker 1>being them, but about having the courage and zeal to

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<v Speaker 1>reach for what can be done. And doesn't that sound

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<v Speaker 1>like more fun than budgeting? Yes, that last part is

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<v Speaker 1>a quote, and I imagine he must have been referring

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<v Speaker 1>to three M bribing Chinese government officials and means of

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<v Speaker 1>selling product between twenty fourteen and twenty seventeen, or the

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of people that three MS laid off in the

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<v Speaker 1>last few decades, including in China. Sure that's what he meant.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Welsh wouldn't have just been talking I have his ass,

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<v Speaker 1>would he? No. Jack Welch is the man that Sam

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<v Speaker 1>Altman lionizes, a sleazy con artist that continually moved around

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<v Speaker 1>data as a means of making General Electric look bigger

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<v Speaker 1>and stronger than it really was. Kind of like how

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Mortmon regularly says things like an I quote that

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be able to ask our computer to solve all

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<v Speaker 1>of physics. Now, this came up on a previous episode

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<v Speaker 1>of the Interview with Nick the man who said he

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<v Speaker 1>of fucking pile drive. You've mentioned AI again. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to be clear that's actually what Sam Wrtman said.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, you can ask the computer to solve all

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<v Speaker 1>of physics. This kind of proves that he doesn't understand take,

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<v Speaker 1>but it also proves that he might just be really

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<v Speaker 1>goddamn stupid. How do you solve physics? Sam? What are

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<v Speaker 1>you solving? Physics? Isn't the solution, Sam? What do you?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you should have stayed in Stanford instead of dropping

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<v Speaker 1>out and becoming a carst Sam Altman is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble though, because behind the scenes, generative AI it

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<v Speaker 1>isn't moving the needle, with Isabel Busquette of The Wall

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<v Speaker 1>Street Journal reporting that companies are finding getting the full

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<v Speaker 1>value of AI assistance requires heavy lifting, including in her

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<v Speaker 1>article this hilarious quote from Google Cloud chief evangelist Richard Sirota,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, as a career product manager, where he

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<v Speaker 1>blames those not finding the value in AI for and

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<v Speaker 1>I quote, not having their data house in order, chirping

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<v Speaker 1>that you can't just buy six units of AI and

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<v Speaker 1>then magically change your business. And you know what, I

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<v Speaker 1>actually agree with him, in essence, it isn't generative AI's fault.

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<v Speaker 1>That it isn't adapting to your workflows or fulfilling anything. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's your faulty, nasty little pig. You didn't do the

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<v Speaker 1>work to make artificial intelligence smart, right, That's your fault.

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<v Speaker 1>Somehow you should feel ashamed. You should apologize to Sam Moltman.

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<v Speaker 1>Just kidding in all seriousness. The commonality between all of

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<v Speaker 1>these people Jack Welch, suned Up a Shai Mirror, Marati,

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Altmanmuk Zuckerberg, and honestly an alarming amount of CEOs

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<v Speaker 1>inside and outside of tech is that they, along with

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<v Speaker 1>their companies, have kind of escaped humanity. They've escaped the

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<v Speaker 1>human condition. They make their companies bigger for the sake

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<v Speaker 1>of making them bigger, making more money, to increase the

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<v Speaker 1>value of the financial instrument attached to the company, Abstracted

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<v Speaker 1>away from purpose or craft or creativity or production. These

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<v Speaker 1>management concerns MBA's product managers. They're not creators of anything

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<v Speaker 1>other than financial occultism, a dark heart. Whether financial value

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<v Speaker 1>of a company is often separated from what it does

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<v Speaker 1>or whether it's good at it. They're parasites meta calls itself.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still calls itself. Go on their website and look

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<v Speaker 1>a social metaverse company that's and I quote committed to

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<v Speaker 1>keeping people safe and making a positive impact. But at

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<v Speaker 1>its core. It's a near monopolistic social data and advertising

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<v Speaker 1>company that's testing the limits of how little connectivity it

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<v Speaker 1>can provide in its core products without sacrificing advertising revenue.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Zuckerberg has proven he'll do whatever he needs to,

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<v Speaker 1>including letting deadly misinformation spread on Facebook to keep showing

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<v Speaker 1>that meta is growing. One might be forgiven for thinking

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<v Speaker 1>that Mark Zuckerberg is the exception that he isn't a

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<v Speaker 1>management goon disconnected from the processes of writing code. This

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<v Speaker 1>guy coded Facebook right. This guy's a nerd. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>nerd with his keyboard. He types right wrong. Oh he

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<v Speaker 1>stopped coding eighteen fucking years ago, in two thousand and six.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the guy like just every time I think

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<v Speaker 1>I've really nailed how bad it gets? Hey wait a second,

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<v Speaker 1>hold up, wait second, I just thought about starthing for

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<v Speaker 1>a second though. Wasn't Sheryl Sandberg brought in to make

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook a real mature business. Ah fuck? She shared a

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<v Speaker 1>communications coach with goddamn Jack Welch. It all goes back

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<v Speaker 1>to the all right, sorry sorry sorry, Like Welch. Zuckerberg

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<v Speaker 1>has weathered numerous scandals the social network, a movie that

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<v Speaker 1>framed him as a sociopathic thief. A data leaking scandal

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<v Speaker 1>that may or may not have influenced Mark Paul elections,

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<v Speaker 1>a scandal where Facebook deliberately emotionally manipulated seven hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 1>users using the news feed in twenty fourteen. And that

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<v Speaker 1>is real, by the way, there's a link to it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's completely insane. Oh yeah, and a five billion dollar

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<v Speaker 1>FDC fine. And he's come out and scathed all as

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<v Speaker 1>he publicly destroys the company that was once globally beloved

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<v Speaker 1>in the name of endless growth. In fact, much like Welsch,

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<v Speaker 1>was applauded as one of the greatest business minds in

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<v Speaker 1>management for decades as he burned G to the ground. Zuckerberg,

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<v Speaker 1>a man who has taken a once profitable company that

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<v Speaker 1>once benefited society and made it both harmful and shitty

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<v Speaker 1>at providing its services, was named one of Barons's top

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<v Speaker 1>CEOs of twenty twenty four a couple of weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>where it credited him with a corporate course correction from

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<v Speaker 1>metaverse to artificial intelligence. Neither of those are making money.

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<v Speaker 1>Much like so many journalists in industry figures failed to

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<v Speaker 1>properly identify Welch, when he was right in their midst.

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<v Speaker 1>Barons failed to call Zuckerberg what he is another con

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<v Speaker 1>artist that took useful software and turned it into a

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<v Speaker 1>data collection firm with a shitty product attached. Zuckerberg is

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<v Speaker 1>trying something that Welsh could have only dreamed of, though

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<v Speaker 1>seeing how little he can actually make to convince the

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<v Speaker 1>markets that matter is valuable. It's almost a little on

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<v Speaker 1>the nose, and it fits, It perfectly fits shareholders. Supremacy

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<v Speaker 1>is the force currently driving the tech ecosystem, and one that,

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<v Speaker 1>as I've noted, and lacks any remaining hypergrowth markets funding

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<v Speaker 1>and proliferating technologies that exist not to provide an innovative,

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<v Speaker 1>useful service, but to create more growth. A phony sense

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<v Speaker 1>of progress that allows companies like Microsoft, Meta, Google, and

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon to create something that looks and smells sort of innovative,

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<v Speaker 1>even if their models are all extremely similar, as they're

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<v Speaker 1>all trained on the same quickly dwindling amount of training data,

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<v Speaker 1>and AI developers don't seem to really care what training

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<v Speaker 1>data they use, or indeed what data source they use

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<v Speaker 1>at all. Look at Google Search, which, as I've mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>took a Reddit post that made it recommend putting glue

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<v Speaker 1>on a pizza to keep cheese on, or claiming that

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<v Speaker 1>you should eat a rock each every day. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>every time I read this, it's so frustrating, it's so annoying,

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<v Speaker 1>and then putting aside how funny the Google AI search

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<v Speaker 1>was on top of it. These companies are running out

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<v Speaker 1>of data and they very clearly don't care about quality

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<v Speaker 1>at all. They're not doing the work, they're not doing

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<v Speaker 1>the things they need to do to make sure this

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<v Speaker 1>is done right. No, they must have it today. They

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<v Speaker 1>must have it now, even if it's bad, even if

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<v Speaker 1>it burns money. And it's not like the markets are

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<v Speaker 1>actually seeing if the shit does anything or whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>truly revolutionary. They didn't care that. Many tech products have

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<v Speaker 1>got increasingly worse over time as tech executives rewarded again

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<v Speaker 1>and again for pursuing growth overt delivering any kind of

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<v Speaker 1>quality product. Since becoming CEO of Google Sundopieschid has been

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<v Speaker 1>paid over half a billion dollars literally in the last

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<v Speaker 1>three years, by the way, taking home two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>eighty one million dollars mostly made up of stock in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen, fateful year that many of you might remember

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<v Speaker 1>from the man who killed Google Search, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>got paid two hundred and twenty six million twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>a year before Google laid off ten thousand people. Sundupisci's

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<v Speaker 1>job as CEO at Google is not to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that Google delivers great products such as a quick path

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<v Speaker 1>to an answer using Google Search. No no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you fool, you buffoon, you ignoramus. Why would you think that. No,

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<v Speaker 1>Sundai's job is to continually grow the amount of money

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<v Speaker 1>that Google's business units make. I have complete confidence that

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<v Speaker 1>if Sundar Pashai was able to make Google Search worse

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<v Speaker 1>than it already is and maintain double digit year of

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<v Speaker 1>a year revenue growth, he would not only do so,

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<v Speaker 1>but he would do so with a big smile on

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<v Speaker 1>his face and be rewarded with hundreds of billions of

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<v Speaker 1>dollars of stock options, pretty much in perpetuity. Sunda Pashai

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<v Speaker 1>is not judged for what he's done to Google, for

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<v Speaker 1>turning it into this Welshair nightmare, not by the markets,

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<v Speaker 1>not by Nile Patella, the verger, who pretty much gave

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<v Speaker 1>him softballs the whole time, And nobody's punishing him at all,

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<v Speaker 1>or really saying it to his face that he's burning

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<v Speaker 1>a genuine technological innovation that billions of people rely upon.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a heartbreaking tragedy that's happening in real time,

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<v Speaker 1>one where a bad person makes worse people richer in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that tangibly hurts us all. We're all forced

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<v Speaker 1>to suffer the consequences and mourn the loss of Google

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<v Speaker 1>Search in slow motion, with nobody really wanting to admit

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<v Speaker 1>the obvious that Goo Google intends to bleed this thing

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<v Speaker 1>out until regulation or the markets stop them. And I

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<v Speaker 1>realized it sounded a little bit dramatic describing this as

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<v Speaker 1>a tragedy. Google Search was always a for profit business,

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<v Speaker 1>and advertising would so obviously poison it that founders Brin

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<v Speaker 1>and Page warned about it in the original Google paper,

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<v Speaker 1>saying that they expected that advertising funded search engines would

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<v Speaker 1>be biased towards advertisers and away from needs of customers.

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<v Speaker 1>But Google Search was, for a while something magical. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a thing we all took for granted. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're being disingenuous if you pretend that this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>something you cared about or relied upon. And I'd argue

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<v Speaker 1>for the earlier days of Facebook and Instagram to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of fit this bill too. These are, or perhaps were, sadly,

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<v Speaker 1>institutions that helped many people my age and I'm an

0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:51.399
<v Speaker 1>ancient thirty eight years old become who we are today,

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<v Speaker 1>finding the things and the people we needed and the

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<v Speaker 1>connections we otherwise wouldn't have made or sustained. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>at least in my that social networking is how I

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<v Speaker 1>met the world. I was kind of a lonely kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't make friends easily. I never have. Really, I've

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<v Speaker 1>done a lot better thanks to the Internet. Pretty Much

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<v Speaker 1>everything that I found has been through on the Internet,

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<v Speaker 1>much of it from Google Search, much of it from

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<v Speaker 1>social networking from Facebook, from Instagram to extent Twitter to

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<v Speaker 1>a much larger Watching these things get burned sucks And

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<v Speaker 1>I think a problem that some people have with this

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<v Speaker 1>show is that they think I'm just pissy and I

0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:33.880
<v Speaker 1>hate all of this stuff, and I don't. I would

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<v Speaker 1>love it to go back to how it was, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe how it felt. I wish it was less craven

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<v Speaker 1>of a value exchange. These were companies that made billions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars in profit by providing a kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>social good, even if it was one where they realized

0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:51.080
<v Speaker 1>they could use it to create a monopoly and then

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<v Speaker 1>rug pull when they needed to for the shareholders. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do mourn the loss of these products, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think many of us. Maybe if I'm wrong, you can

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<v Speaker 1>email me easy at letter E, letter Z at better

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 1>offline dot com if you disagree. By all means, I

0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:10.760
<v Speaker 1>love to hear from you, even the haters one or

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<v Speaker 1>two of you. But in all seriousness, I'm more on

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff. I'm sad about this. I'm pissed off. Not

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<v Speaker 1>because I like being angry, I genuinely don't. I'm sad.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a broken hearted romantic. I love the tech industry

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<v Speaker 1>and what it used to do. Perhaps I was naive.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps now I'm realizing that a lot of that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that I thought was great wasn't. It wasn't this bad

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't Where Jack Welch destroyed multiple local economies in Massachusetts, Indiana,

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<v Speaker 1>and Pennsylvania by laying off thousands of workers in favor

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<v Speaker 1>of cheaper outsourced options. Sundar Pichai and Mark Zuckerberg have

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<v Speaker 1>realized that shareholder supremacy only means making a product as

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<v Speaker 1>useful as necessary and optimizing it at all times to

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<v Speaker 1>me analyst expectations of revenue. The unique problem that Sundar

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<v Speaker 1>Pishai and the rest of the rock barons currently faces

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<v Speaker 1>that there aren't any hypergrowth markets left, and they've been

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<v Speaker 1>so desperately adapting to that reality since twenty fifteen. And

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<v Speaker 1>now I've said later, but I think twenty fifteen is

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<v Speaker 1>the year so many promises, augmented reality, homo robotics, autonomous cars,

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<v Speaker 1>and even then artificial intelligence writ large never quite materialized

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<v Speaker 1>into these viable business units, making big tech that little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more desperate. I've repeatedly and substantively proven in my

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<v Speaker 1>newsletter and this podcast that both Meta and Google have

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<v Speaker 1>made their products worse in pursuit of growth, and they've

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<v Speaker 1>done so by following a roadmap drawn by Jack Welch,

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<v Speaker 1>a sociopathic scumbag that realized that he could turn General

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<v Speaker 1>Electric into a shambling monstrosity of a company that could

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<v Speaker 1>shape shift into whatever the street needed, even if the

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<v Speaker 1>product sucked. And I believe that this is the same

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<v Speaker 1>financial nihilism that empowers people like Mirror Marati and Sam Altman,

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<v Speaker 1>and also millions more middle managers and absentee CEOs. The

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<v Speaker 1>kind of been writing about and speaking about for the

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<v Speaker 1>last three years. Our economy is run by people that

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<v Speaker 1>have never built anything, running companies that they can taught

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<v Speaker 1>to make a number go up for showlders. They rarely

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<v Speaker 1>meet people like David Zaslav, the CEO of Warner Brothers Discovery,

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<v Speaker 1>who intentionally chose not to release Coyote Versus Acme, a

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<v Speaker 1>fully produced and ready to debut movie featuring Warner Brothers'

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<v Speaker 1>core brands, choosing instead to never release it ever in

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<v Speaker 1>exchange for a cut to its tax bill. Zaslav, a

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<v Speaker 1>CEO of Warner Brothers Discovery, has overseen one of the

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<v Speaker 1>darkest periods in the company's history, including endless cutbacks, and

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<v Speaker 1>through his own mismanagement, caused a five month long strike

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<v Speaker 1>in Hollywood. Zaslav continued to complain even after the strike ended,

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<v Speaker 1>claiming that studios overpaid for the strike to end as

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<v Speaker 1>he earned a fifty million dollar salary for driving his

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<v Speaker 1>company into the ground. Hey hey, just one moment, though,

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<v Speaker 1>where do you think David Zaslav learnt? Do you think

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 1>he learned it by reading books? Or maybe he learned

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:09.120
<v Speaker 1>his management philosophy a little more directly? Can you guess

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<v Speaker 1>who his close friend was. It was Jack Wells. Jack

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<v Speaker 1>Welch was his. Oh my god, but you know who's

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<v Speaker 1>not horrible our advertisers. During a commencement speech in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three where David Zaslav was booed by students, he

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<v Speaker 1>told the story of how, sometime after General Electric acquired

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<v Speaker 1>NBC through g's acquisition of RCA in ninety eighty five,

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<v Speaker 1>he sent a handwritten note to Jack Welch telling him

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<v Speaker 1>about himself, David Zaslav, and what he'd been doing he

0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:44.960
<v Speaker 1>was a lawyer, leading to a job running NBC in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty nine. This story doesn't make a ton of sense,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, based on any living history of David

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Zaslav's life. He joined NBC three years after the acquisition

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<v Speaker 1>of RCA closed. He claimed he was working for a

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<v Speaker 1>few years in cable news, but everything I found suggests

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 1>that he went straight from school to working at a

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<v Speaker 1>law firm called Lebooth LAMB Libyan McRae according to his

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<v Speaker 1>Warner Brothers profile when he graduated from Boston University in

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<v Speaker 1>ninet eighty five, meaning that he would have had to

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<v Speaker 1>send that note while working at a firm that was

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<v Speaker 1>mostly not working in anything to do with Capernews at all,

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 1>just a liar, just lying. Regardless of whether Zaslav made

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<v Speaker 1>up an entire story about how he got his job,

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<v Speaker 1>he was and is one of Welch's most nasty cronies,

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<v Speaker 1>his most staunch acolytes, telling David Gellis, who wrote The

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<v Speaker 1>Man Who Destroyed Capitalism about Jack Welch, that Jack set

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<v Speaker 1>the path, that he saw the whole world, that he

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<v Speaker 1>was above the whole world, and that what Jack Welch

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<v Speaker 1>created at G became the way that companies now operate,

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<v Speaker 1>which is true. David Zaslav, a man who has caused

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<v Speaker 1>unfathomable damage to the entertainment industry while intentionally choosing not

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<v Speaker 1>to release two different movies, learned to do so from

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<v Speaker 1>the Michael Jordan of corporate destruction, and to Zaslav, Welch

0:29:56.760 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 1>was like an older brother that would pick people at

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<v Speaker 1>NBC with a hug when things were tough, and that

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<v Speaker 1>there was no better friend. According to an interview with

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<v Speaker 1>CNBC Jesus christ Man, it's like a poorly written drama.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope it ends with a big anvil falling on me. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I realize I'm oscillating between industries and names, but the

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<v Speaker 1>shareholder's supremacy is something that has poisoned almost every part

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<v Speaker 1>of global capitalism. Dedication to the shareholders, in many ways

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of like a religion. It isn't even about

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<v Speaker 1>a shareholder or the shareholder, just moving acids to make

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<v Speaker 1>a number go up and making another number look like

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<v Speaker 1>it might go up in the future. Welch Zaslav, Peshai, Zuckerberg.

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<v Speaker 1>They're all the same kind of monster, one divorced from

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<v Speaker 1>consequence and production and capable of contributing meaningfully to the

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<v Speaker 1>world at large because the market is shown it doesn't

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 1>really care if they do so. Sanda Pashai doesn't use Google,

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 1>and Mark Zuckerberg doesn't use Instagram, Facebook, or threads, at

0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 1>least not like a regular person does anyway, much like

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<v Speaker 1>how David Zaslav doesn't watch or care about TVs and

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<v Speaker 1>movies and doesn't even release them sometimes it's crazy. The

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<v Speaker 1>deep sea a nihilism means that they aren't users or

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<v Speaker 1>creators or even active participants in any part of society.

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<v Speaker 1>They're there to move the stuff around so that they

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<v Speaker 1>can keep the number going up. And I believe this

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<v Speaker 1>is all the consequence of Jack Welcher's legacy, where the

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<v Speaker 1>economy has been built on the back of a management

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 1>philosophy that no longer involves managing people or building things.

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 1>The business media and society at large elevates executives like

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<v Speaker 1>Zuckerberg and Peshai as they demolish their products, and they

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<v Speaker 1>are thousands of people because the terms of success are

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<v Speaker 1>no longer about making money by providing a good service

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<v Speaker 1>or a product people like. The markets don't reward steady growth,

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<v Speaker 1>nor that they punish executives for the quality of their

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<v Speaker 1>product because analysts and investors aren't really concerned about the product,

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<v Speaker 1>just the financial output. I don't think their users either.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point, theological rush to boost artificial intelligence makes

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more sense when you have a society and

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<v Speaker 1>economy dominated by people who don't create things or understand

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<v Speaker 1>the things they're selling. People that don't experience or respect

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<v Speaker 1>labor or talk to people. Of course, their natural thought

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<v Speaker 1>will be that any form of creativity or work can

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<v Speaker 1>and should be automated. It isn't about what's good, but

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<v Speaker 1>what's good enough, and artificial intelligence allows them to test

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<v Speaker 1>the boundaries of what enough can mean. Toys, r us

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<v Speaker 1>or at least what remains of it after a leveraged buyout.

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<v Speaker 1>Should feel an abundance of shame for releasing a horrifying

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<v Speaker 1>AI generated orision of Toys of Rus movie full of

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 1>ugly hallucinations and yanky animations. But what it's really trying

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<v Speaker 1>to see is how much it can get away with,

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<v Speaker 1>how shitty something can be without losing customers, or whether

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<v Speaker 1>the potential loss of customers is worth it to save

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<v Speaker 1>the money it would take to actually shoot a goddamn commercial.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's crazy, by the way, and you should watch

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 1>this thing. It's terrible. Is this video looks so bad

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 1>and they put it on the main Toys of US account.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't give a shit. They're trying to see what

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<v Speaker 1>they can get away with. And I think that's a

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<v Speaker 1>big thing theme. When Mirror Murarti said that AI might

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<v Speaker 1>kill creative jobs that shouldn't have been there in the

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<v Speaker 1>first place, it wasn't just the grotesque insult to those

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<v Speaker 1>actually working cret When Mirror Mourati said that AI might

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<v Speaker 1>kill creative jobs that should have never been there in

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<v Speaker 1>the first place, it wasn't just a nasty insult to

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<v Speaker 1>those working in the creative fields. It was also a

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<v Speaker 1>demonstration of an unchained sociopathy and this nasty kind of

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:26.080
<v Speaker 1>hubris that these tech people have, and the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>she believes that she, a woman of little actual accomplishment

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<v Speaker 1>and talent and the intellectual depth of a puddle on

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<v Speaker 1>a flat sidewalk, is singlely ordained to decide which jobs

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<v Speaker 1>are worthy and which ones should die. Really, it was

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<v Speaker 1>an insult to all of us. It was an expression

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<v Speaker 1>of her belief that consumers don't deserve things created by

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<v Speaker 1>a person who actually gives a shit. You don't deserve

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<v Speaker 1>to watch movies that only exist thanks to the combined

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<v Speaker 1>efforts of illustrators, sound engineers, composers, actors, directors, and countless

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<v Speaker 1>other uncelebrated roles, where each cog in the machine has

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<v Speaker 1>spent years honing their skills until they've reached a level

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<v Speaker 1>of honest mastery. You, yes, you don't deserve to use

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<v Speaker 1>software created by someone who actually thought about the problem

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<v Speaker 1>and at the very least made a best effort to

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<v Speaker 1>write secure, robust code. You don't deserve anything. In their eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>You deserve the minimum viable product. You deserve as little

0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:20.480
<v Speaker 1>as possible so that they can make as much as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>That is what Mirror Murti is saying. No amount of

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<v Speaker 1>two long tweet storms, no amount of vacuous blogs, no

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<v Speaker 1>amount of apologia is going to make up for the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that this is what these people think. They see

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<v Speaker 1>work and creativity as something to be optimized away, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's disgraceful. And even when you get to the more

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<v Speaker 1>workhorse roles, the coding roles, there are still these huge

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<v Speaker 1>problems and they don't care. As pointed out by cybersecurity

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<v Speaker 1>firms nick, Microsoft's get hub copilot tool routinely and unquestionably

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<v Speaker 1>outputs insecure code because, as said ad nauseum in other places,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't know anything a human being can look at

0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 1>a code based and identify, for example, areas where the

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<v Speaker 1>system doesn't check for SQL injection attacks, which could allow

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:14.320
<v Speaker 1>an attacker to steal and modify data from a database.

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<v Speaker 1>An AI tool merely guesses what code looks right probabilistically

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<v Speaker 1>given the prompt that was involved. When Murti gleefully brags

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<v Speaker 1>about how AI will eviscerate an unknowable amount of creative jobs,

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<v Speaker 1>which she is personally identified as expendable by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>what she's really saying is that people should be content

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<v Speaker 1>with using shitty broken AI generated software and watching shitty

0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:40.239
<v Speaker 1>broken AI generated films with a number of digits on

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<v Speaker 1>each hand fluctuates wildly that the line on a sisoscope

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<v Speaker 1>and where nothing new is said, but rather a machine

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<v Speaker 1>is regurgitating stuff created by other people solely based on

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<v Speaker 1>a mathematical model of probability. It's insulting, it's disgusting, and

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<v Speaker 1>it sucks. It just objective if he sucks. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>even like this stuff is any good. It's not even

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<v Speaker 1>like the things that it's producing are respectable. Not the

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<v Speaker 1>replacing people is good. But the amount of money they're

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<v Speaker 1>being given, the amount of compute they're using, the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of water they're boiling to make dogshare shows a complete

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<v Speaker 1>contempt for everything, for creativity and labor itself. And generative

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<v Speaker 1>AI is exciting to the disconnected business fucks running our

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<v Speaker 1>economy because it's a way to abstract and outsource even

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<v Speaker 1>more forms of labor. We have spent decades pushing young

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<v Speaker 1>people to get into management without ever teaching anybody about

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<v Speaker 1>what managers are meant to do, creating a class structure

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<v Speaker 1>in organizations where there are those that do things and

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<v Speaker 1>those that take the credit, and the latter are the

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<v Speaker 1>people in charge, disconnected from labor, disconnected from quality, disconnected

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<v Speaker 1>from production, and thus incapable of making informed decisions other

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<v Speaker 1>than what if we moved around this number here and

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:01.520
<v Speaker 1>what if we start paying these people. The AI bubble

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 1>has been inflated by people excited about the prospect of

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<v Speaker 1>not happening to deal with filthy laborers that do work,

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 1>and they ultimately aspire to make companies with as few

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 1>people as possible, with the CEO making the most money

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:16.480
<v Speaker 1>because they're the ones that move the numbers around for

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:20.360
<v Speaker 1>the markets. This also explains where they're so incapable of

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:24.400
<v Speaker 1>describing what AI is, what it does, and why it's useful.

0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:27.520
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter that data centers might end up using

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<v Speaker 1>as much power as India by twenty thirty four, or

0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:33.799
<v Speaker 1>that generator of AI isn't actually that useful. It's a

0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:36.160
<v Speaker 1>chance for them to further disconnect themselves from having to

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 1>pay actual people to do actual work, a thing that

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:42.040
<v Speaker 1>they themselves consider the product of the underclass. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>care that the output is mediocre, that the product is unprofitable,

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<v Speaker 1>that there's a quickly approaching wall that generative AI can't

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<v Speaker 1>leap over as it runs out of training data, or

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<v Speaker 1>that the transformer based architecture of large language models has

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<v Speaker 1>hard limitations that are impossible to overcome. No, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a shiny new object that they can way of investors

0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:03.080
<v Speaker 1>that already don't know what any of this stuff means,

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 1>one that lets them dream of a world without labor.

0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Generative AI wants us to stop researching, or talking or thinking,

0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:14.440
<v Speaker 1>and eventually it will come for your livelihood if it worked.

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:17.680
<v Speaker 1>But even then, when it doesn't work, it's still taking

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:22.120
<v Speaker 1>money out of freelancer's mouths. It's replacing good coders with

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 1>shit generated code. There is a poison here, and it's disgusting.

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:31.239
<v Speaker 1>In some respects. Generative AI is morally worse than Jack

0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Welch's odious anti worker philosophy. Whereas Welch saw workers as

0:38:35.719 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 1>a cost center to be minimized and eliminated where possible,

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:42.200
<v Speaker 1>generative AI extends that idea to the raw materials necessary

0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:45.800
<v Speaker 1>to build apps like chat GPT, with must of Our Sulliman,

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 1>the CEO of Microsoft AI and the co founder of DeepMind,

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 1>declaring the existence of an unspoken social contract where and

0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I quote online content is freeware for building AI models.

0:38:57.280 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 1>The law I know it tends to regard actual contracts

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:02.920
<v Speaker 1>more seriously unspoken and let's face it, imaginary contracts. And

0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:05.399
<v Speaker 1>I desperately look forward to the day when Sulliman's ideas

0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:07.920
<v Speaker 1>are tested in court. But I don't fancy these chances.

0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:11.600
<v Speaker 1>And most of you come from my content. You're not

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:14.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna have words, mate. But that's the thing. In many

0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:17.160
<v Speaker 1>of my newsletters and podcasts, I've argued that the current

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:19.399
<v Speaker 1>trajectory of the tech industry will lead it to ruin

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:23.319
<v Speaker 1>the poison of the shareholder supremacy. This nihilistic intention of

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 1>contorting companies, the police, analysts, and investors is one that

0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:29.919
<v Speaker 1>will uniquely punish the tech industry, just like it did

0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 1>to General Electric. Google, Microsoft, and Meta have bet their

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<v Speaker 1>futures on generative AI, cramming it into their products with

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:40.600
<v Speaker 1>little regard for utility, all to show the markets that

0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:44.919
<v Speaker 1>they're futuristic rocket ship growth companies rather than at least

0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 1>in matter in Google's case, aging and decaying empires that

0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:50.440
<v Speaker 1>got too big and were corrupted by the forces of

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:54.760
<v Speaker 1>the MBA management sect. I realized that's master of business

0:39:54.800 --> 0:40:00.680
<v Speaker 1>administration management. This is the force behind everything. This is

0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:03.719
<v Speaker 1>it the dark hand that demanded you return to the

0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:06.520
<v Speaker 1>office in spite of the productivity gains of remote work,

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 1>The weight behind the people destroying the media, the people

0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:13.480
<v Speaker 1>the very same people who lied about cryptocurrency being the

0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:16.800
<v Speaker 1>future of finance, and the people that collapsed multiple banks

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty three. Because risk management, to quote Mark Andresen,

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:25.880
<v Speaker 1>is considered the enemy. These people will burn the world

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:28.400
<v Speaker 1>to a crisp in search of a profit, in search

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:31.879
<v Speaker 1>of eternal growth, in search of the things that will

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:36.600
<v Speaker 1>make them richer, richer, nastier, disconnected monsters even more capable

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 1>of escaping the drudgery of knowing and doing things. This

0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:44.360
<v Speaker 1>is a dark future where somehow all labor is automated,

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:47.960
<v Speaker 1>all money flows upwards, and society drained of taxes in

0:40:48.040 --> 0:40:51.759
<v Speaker 1>any kind of social safety net, does something with all

0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:53.879
<v Speaker 1>the children that Elon Musk is saying we need to have.

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:59.760
<v Speaker 1>The tech industry is dominated now by management consolants, product managers,

0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:03.320
<v Speaker 1>and middle management in general, with people that have written

0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:05.719
<v Speaker 1>few lines of code in their lives holding sway over

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:09.040
<v Speaker 1>the actual builders, instructing them to create things they don't

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:12.200
<v Speaker 1>understand as means of improving the bottom line, rather than

0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 1>solving an actual need or even addressing the obvious business

0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:19.880
<v Speaker 1>fundamentals like profitability and stability. A few episodes back, when

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:21.600
<v Speaker 1>I was talking with Nick Siesh, one of the very

0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:24.719
<v Speaker 1>basic things he said was, have you checked your backups?

0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:28.840
<v Speaker 1>This is a problem throughout the valley. We don't maintain

0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:32.160
<v Speaker 1>anything anymore as a society. We have a terrible approach

0:41:32.200 --> 0:41:35.280
<v Speaker 1>to maintenance. We have a terrible approach to business maintenance.

0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:38.239
<v Speaker 1>When you throw sustainability out in the window, you don't

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:42.239
<v Speaker 1>really check if everything's working well. And I think that

0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:44.800
<v Speaker 1>that's going to be the problem. That and the financial

0:41:44.800 --> 0:41:46.759
<v Speaker 1>precariousness of all of this, That and the fact the

0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:49.879
<v Speaker 1>markets just kind of turn on them when things don't

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:53.480
<v Speaker 1>work their way, and at some point things have to collapse.

0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that every tech company goes belly up,

0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:59.400
<v Speaker 1>but I believe that the generative AI boom is the

0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:03.040
<v Speaker 1>force that creates It's a massive reckoning in this industry.

0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:06.319
<v Speaker 1>It's almost a little too on the nose with the

0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:10.080
<v Speaker 1>wider shareholder supremacy. Generate AI. It's a tool that only

0:42:10.080 --> 0:42:12.960
<v Speaker 1>seems revolutionary to people that haven't written or coded, or

0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:16.360
<v Speaker 1>drawn or sang or created anything in years. The last

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 1>four years have proven that the tech industry is desperate

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:22.760
<v Speaker 1>for somebody to follow, and follow they have. Mark Zuckerberg

0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:25.439
<v Speaker 1>claimed the metaverse the future in the most flimsy way,

0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:28.520
<v Speaker 1>and the market, along with Microsoft and many other companies agreed.

0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Even if the metaverse was barely conceived pipe during by

0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:34.360
<v Speaker 1>a guy who hasn't written code since two thousand and six,

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Generative AI is the next step up a trend with

0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:40.520
<v Speaker 1>a natural product, a superficially impressive do dad that can

0:42:40.560 --> 0:42:44.399
<v Speaker 1>sell cloud compute access and proliferate more software, even if

0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:48.200
<v Speaker 1>the underlying technology is so remarkably unprofitable and unreliable that

0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:51.040
<v Speaker 1>big tech firms are having to calm down their salespeople,

0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 1>which happened a few months ago with Amazon, and big

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 1>tech was so desperate for something new to follow, something

0:42:57.239 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 1>new to do with themselves that would sustain the value's

0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:03.839
<v Speaker 1>thread facade is a crucible of innovation and progress. Rather

0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:07.040
<v Speaker 1>than doing the hard work to actually invest in and

0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:11.920
<v Speaker 1>research and develop important technologies that people like and would

0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:15.680
<v Speaker 1>use and would care about, Sam Altman gave them all

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:18.360
<v Speaker 1>something to do with themselves, and he packaged it in

0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:20.080
<v Speaker 1>a way that told them how to think about it,

0:43:20.160 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 1>and of course lie about it. At some point, something

0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:27.480
<v Speaker 1>has to give. The markets are fickle and demanding and

0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:32.279
<v Speaker 1>engineered to demand endless growth and endless returns. GENERATIVAI is

0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:35.239
<v Speaker 1>hitting a wall. I'll go into that in the next episode,

0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 1>and any future improvements will be marginal and cost billions

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:41.880
<v Speaker 1>of dollars to achieve. The transformer based architectures like the

0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:45.480
<v Speaker 1>kind used in open aised GPT models are gigantic maths,

0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:48.800
<v Speaker 1>machines that know nothing and will never, ever, ever ever

0:43:48.920 --> 0:43:53.080
<v Speaker 1>create the artificial general intelligence the conscious tech being that

0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Sam Altman has been claiming it will. GENERATIAI does not

0:43:56.920 --> 0:44:00.040
<v Speaker 1>appear to provide the kind of easy business return and

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 1>it's reminiscent of the cloud computing boom and mobile app

0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:06.719
<v Speaker 1>store booms. And once that becomes clear, the markets will

0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:10.319
<v Speaker 1>punish those most deeply invested in quite a painful way,

0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:13.680
<v Speaker 1>and once they do, the real thumb will begin as

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:16.480
<v Speaker 1>big tech reconciles with the lack of innovation and leadership

0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:19.920
<v Speaker 1>teams stuffed with management consultants, product managers, and sick evans

0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:24.600
<v Speaker 1>that lank any real ideas or expertise that might inform

0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:28.360
<v Speaker 1>what actually might be next, not least because they've sequested

0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:31.760
<v Speaker 1>themselves away from creators and pretty much any normal person

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:35.040
<v Speaker 1>or anyone who does an actual job. I don't really

0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:37.080
<v Speaker 1>know when this reckoning will happen, though, but I do

0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:40.640
<v Speaker 1>know this. When I started writing this script, it was

0:44:40.719 --> 0:44:42.920
<v Speaker 1>a brief way to connect the past to the present.

0:44:43.000 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 1>And as with everything I've written, it seems I found

0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:47.680
<v Speaker 1>my argument as I wrote it, searching as I went.

0:44:48.400 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 1>There's no prompt that could have told a generative AI

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:53.040
<v Speaker 1>to write what I've written, Nor is there a prompt

0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:56.600
<v Speaker 1>that would let me delightfully enrage myself in a tiny

0:44:56.680 --> 0:45:00.040
<v Speaker 1>sound proof in my garage and all of that. That

0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:03.040
<v Speaker 1>is the magic that creates things like this podcast, things

0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:05.320
<v Speaker 1>like my news there, things like you're writing, you're singing,

0:45:05.400 --> 0:45:08.800
<v Speaker 1>your coding, and everything like that. The process of creation,

0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:12.399
<v Speaker 1>the actual labor of considering what you should do next,

0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:15.400
<v Speaker 1>the mistakes you make, the finding the theories behind the

0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:19.280
<v Speaker 1>decisions you make, is what creates great work. What creates

0:45:19.360 --> 0:45:23.839
<v Speaker 1>great writing, not the probabilistic formulation of whatever you might

0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:26.239
<v Speaker 1>create if you trained on billions of words of other

0:45:26.280 --> 0:45:30.040
<v Speaker 1>people's stuff. It kind of reminds me chat GBT, especially

0:45:30.080 --> 0:45:32.480
<v Speaker 1>reminds me of the kind of writing i'd read in college,

0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:35.560
<v Speaker 1>where it was very much people saying things in the

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:37.880
<v Speaker 1>order that they thought they should say them. The structures

0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:41.120
<v Speaker 1>like intro, body, conclusion. It was the same words, it

0:45:41.160 --> 0:45:43.480
<v Speaker 1>was the same things. And this was quite a long

0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:47.080
<v Speaker 1>time before chat GBT, and it was because people were

0:45:47.080 --> 0:45:49.319
<v Speaker 1>writing to spec they were doing what they thought they

0:45:49.320 --> 0:45:53.000
<v Speaker 1>should do, rather than writing a lot and coming out

0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:54.879
<v Speaker 1>with something at the end and no offense them. They're

0:45:54.880 --> 0:45:57.720
<v Speaker 1>college students. They should have been told. They shouldn't have been taught. Writing,

0:45:57.719 --> 0:46:00.480
<v Speaker 1>should be taught, talking, should be taught. They there are

0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:03.920
<v Speaker 1>social things that we learn, but we learn through making mistakes.

0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:06.319
<v Speaker 1>I can't code, but those people that I know can

0:46:06.520 --> 0:46:08.200
<v Speaker 1>have messed up so many times to their code. They've

0:46:08.200 --> 0:46:11.360
<v Speaker 1>broken things tons and tons of times. Part of the

0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:14.319
<v Speaker 1>great thing of creation is the destruction that you have

0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:17.640
<v Speaker 1>to go through to get there. I've written about seven

0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:20.160
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand words in the last four years, and I

0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:22.759
<v Speaker 1>only really became good I'd say in the last two

0:46:22.800 --> 0:46:27.680
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand, maybe one hundred and fifty thousand. I couldn't

0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:30.400
<v Speaker 1>have got there just by reading that many words. You

0:46:30.520 --> 0:46:33.080
<v Speaker 1>need to put in the time But if you don't

0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:35.920
<v Speaker 1>put time into anything, if you don't create anything, of

0:46:35.960 --> 0:46:37.879
<v Speaker 1>course you don't respect that, And of course you don't

0:46:37.880 --> 0:46:41.800
<v Speaker 1>know what good looks like. But these people, these people

0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:45.120
<v Speaker 1>who are so disconnected, they will demand, as Jack Welch did,

0:46:45.200 --> 0:46:47.880
<v Speaker 1>that we burn whatever we need in pursuit of growth.

0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:51.920
<v Speaker 1>We must divert billions of dollars, exobites of data, endless

0:46:51.960 --> 0:46:54.839
<v Speaker 1>acres of data centers. Also that we could maybe create

0:46:54.880 --> 0:46:58.480
<v Speaker 1>a future they don't understand or care about. It doesn't

0:46:58.480 --> 0:47:01.319
<v Speaker 1>matter if generat if AI actually does anything, just as

0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:03.560
<v Speaker 1>long as they can convince shareholders and an analyst that it

0:47:03.600 --> 0:47:07.399
<v Speaker 1>might one day do so. It's hard to consider any

0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:09.279
<v Speaker 1>of this a grift, because doing so would be it

0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:12.160
<v Speaker 1>to admit how much of the economy is controlled by grifters.

0:47:12.880 --> 0:47:14.320
<v Speaker 1>But you know what, I'm gonna leave you with a

0:47:14.400 --> 0:47:16.560
<v Speaker 1>quote from Nick shi Rash, who I interviewed a few

0:47:16.560 --> 0:47:19.000
<v Speaker 1>episodes ago about it, and this is a quote from

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:21.719
<v Speaker 1>his excellent blog. I will fucking pile drive you if

0:47:21.760 --> 0:47:25.120
<v Speaker 1>you mention AI again. Not gonna do an Australian accent.

0:47:25.160 --> 0:47:31.040
<v Speaker 1>That's rude. You see, Well, hype is nice. It's only

0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:35.319
<v Speaker 1>nice and small burst for practitioners. We have a few

0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:37.839
<v Speaker 1>key things that a grifter does not have, such as

0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:42.680
<v Speaker 1>job stability, genuine friendships, and souls. What we do not

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:45.920
<v Speaker 1>have is the ability to trivially switch fields the moment

0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:48.440
<v Speaker 1>the gold rush is over due to the sad fact

0:47:48.440 --> 0:47:52.960
<v Speaker 1>that we've actually needed to study things and build experience. Grifters,

0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:54.840
<v Speaker 1>on the other hand, wield the omni tool that is

0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:58.839
<v Speaker 1>self aggrandizingly called politics. That is to say, it turns

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:01.839
<v Speaker 1>out that the core competency smiling and promising things that

0:48:01.880 --> 0:48:07.560
<v Speaker 1>you can't actually deliver, is highly transferable. Generative AI is

0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:10.440
<v Speaker 1>an active theft in and of itself, perpetuated by people

0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:13.640
<v Speaker 1>that have stolen innovation in the name of shareholder supremacy,

0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:17.279
<v Speaker 1>creating a degenerative form of innovation that optimizes the tech

0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:20.360
<v Speaker 1>industry to create things that sound cool rather than actually

0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:23.799
<v Speaker 1>do things and help people. And the people perpetuating these

0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:29.680
<v Speaker 1>acts sundarp Isshai, Mark Zuckerberg, Andy Jesse Sachy Nadella, Sam Lman,

0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:33.319
<v Speaker 1>Mirror Marati are all the same kind of charlatan, the

0:48:33.440 --> 0:48:36.240
<v Speaker 1>ultimate manager, one that has created the means to escape

0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:39.520
<v Speaker 1>the workforce and ultimately having to create anything of any kind.

0:48:41.160 --> 0:48:45.480
<v Speaker 1>These people, the crave the ultimate business where it's just

0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:48.840
<v Speaker 1>them and all the money flows up, kind of like

0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:52.440
<v Speaker 1>the final shade from Destiny Too or the Ultimate Sukiyomi

0:48:52.440 --> 0:48:55.560
<v Speaker 1>from Narutau. And I won't spoil the fun Fantasy seven

0:48:55.600 --> 0:48:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Rebirth collection either, But there is this thing in fiction

0:48:59.040 --> 0:49:02.000
<v Speaker 1>about this idea of a final shape, of an ultimate

0:49:02.080 --> 0:49:05.080
<v Speaker 1>dream where everything's locked under one eye, And as crazy

0:49:05.120 --> 0:49:07.440
<v Speaker 1>as that sounds, this really feels like what they want

0:49:07.719 --> 0:49:09.879
<v Speaker 1>as few people as possible to make them as much

0:49:09.920 --> 0:49:12.160
<v Speaker 1>money as possible, and the people who invest in them

0:49:12.440 --> 0:49:16.600
<v Speaker 1>as much money as possible. And it's gross. It's frustrating.

0:49:18.080 --> 0:49:19.799
<v Speaker 1>They could make a tenth of what they do and

0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:25.000
<v Speaker 1>still be so incredibly rich and probably not destroy their companies.

0:49:25.200 --> 0:49:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Google could putter around a two to five percent profitability

0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:31.240
<v Speaker 1>each quarter, it doesn't matter. It would still be fine,

0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:35.360
<v Speaker 1>but the markets don't care. It sucks. It makes me angry,

0:49:36.600 --> 0:49:40.080
<v Speaker 1>and I don't claim to have any answers or truly

0:49:40.160 --> 0:49:43.640
<v Speaker 1>know how to unwind all of this. I don't know

0:49:43.960 --> 0:49:46.960
<v Speaker 1>how to change things other than loudly saying what I

0:49:47.000 --> 0:49:48.879
<v Speaker 1>see in front of my eyes and how it makes

0:49:48.880 --> 0:49:51.520
<v Speaker 1>me feel, and wanting others to at the very least

0:49:51.560 --> 0:49:53.920
<v Speaker 1>have more clarity into the things that are being done

0:49:53.960 --> 0:49:56.280
<v Speaker 1>to them and the ways in which others have twisted

0:49:56.280 --> 0:49:58.879
<v Speaker 1>the system to make more money than anyone's ever had,

0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:03.880
<v Speaker 1>transforming company into these horrifying nihilist engines for growth, anti

0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:06.640
<v Speaker 1>companies that create value by reducing what they contribute to

0:50:06.680 --> 0:50:11.040
<v Speaker 1>the world. But I encourage you not to be nihilistic yourself.

0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Do not lose faith in the power of sunlight in

0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:18.920
<v Speaker 1>calling these people what they are. Parasites. Sam Altman is

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<v Speaker 1>a parasite, Sundar Pishai is a parasite, satch Nadella is

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<v Speaker 1>a parasite. Every single one of these people, these people

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<v Speaker 1>who have taken good companies that built good things that

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<v Speaker 1>people like that still made money and made them more

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<v Speaker 1>money while making the things worse, they are parasites, and

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<v Speaker 1>calling them that is necessary. If you Sundar Pishai or

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<v Speaker 1>one of your ilk here's this and are offended, fix

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<v Speaker 1>your goddamn company, make good things again, stop laying people off,

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<v Speaker 1>pay yourself less, and do more for the world. Otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>you are a parasite and you're deliberate in doing so.

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<v Speaker 1>Be clear and concise when speaking about these people. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, be continually outraged damage they are doing to society.

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<v Speaker 1>And I encourage you all to catalog everything you see.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know posting through it doesn't sound like much,

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<v Speaker 1>but believe me, these people see it. These people know,

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<v Speaker 1>and these people have names. Sam Aortman, Sandra Pishai, Mark Zuckerberg,

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<v Speaker 1>Satya Nadela, Andy Jasse, all of these people diverting the

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<v Speaker 1>world's most talented engineers into an unsustainable, unprofitable boondoggle that

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<v Speaker 1>does nothing that they don't understand. All of them can

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<v Speaker 1>at least be held accountable on record, if not in

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<v Speaker 1>real life. Believe your eyes. You are being given less

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<v Speaker 1>so that others can have more. You are having things

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<v Speaker 1>taken from you by corporations because they must always please

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<v Speaker 1>the nebulous form of the shareholder. As I said, don't

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<v Speaker 1>give into nihilism. Though these people do read all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>They are aware of things like this podcast, but they

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<v Speaker 1>also see social media. They see the clouds of people

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<v Speaker 1>talking about how bad Google is now thanks to AI.

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<v Speaker 1>Even before that. Public pressure does work. Loud public pressure

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<v Speaker 1>consist in public pressure, but also Sunda Pishai, Prabagar Ragavan,

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<v Speaker 1>zach In Adela, Sam Altman say the goddamn name. Say

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<v Speaker 1>them repeatedly, loudly everywhere when you don't like something with

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<v Speaker 1>Google mention, Prabagar Ragavan mentioned sundar Pieshai engrave their names

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<v Speaker 1>to their bad acts. When you talk about how shitty

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook is, Mark Zuckerberg, Javier Olivan, Alex Schultz, Naomi gLite,

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<v Speaker 1>put their names by them. Let them not hide behind

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<v Speaker 1>the names of their corporations. Let history show that they

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<v Speaker 1>made so much money while doing so much damage, because

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<v Speaker 1>that is how they've gotten away with it. These people

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<v Speaker 1>have no more worldly concerns. They don't worry about bills,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't worry about the mortgage, they don't worry about

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<v Speaker 1>any of that crap. They don't have real problems. All

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<v Speaker 1>they have is their legacy and their goddamn name. So

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<v Speaker 1>take it from them. Take their name. Say the Cheryl Samberg,

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<v Speaker 1>a McKinsey operator an MBA is the reason that Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>started going downhill. Then Mark Zuckerberg, Javier Oliven, Naomi gLite,

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<v Speaker 1>Alec Schultz, Andrew Bosworth. All these people our why Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>is full of AI generated spam, say Sam Altman, Mirror

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<v Speaker 1>Marathi of open Ai. They are the people that are

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<v Speaker 1>stealing the entire internet to train models most of Varsuliema,

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<v Speaker 1>the Microsoft CEO of AI. Guess what, that guy is

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<v Speaker 1>also stealing your data. He is also training models on it.

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<v Speaker 1>He is the one perpetuating the great theft. As long

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<v Speaker 1>as their names are attached these acts, it'll be scarier

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<v Speaker 1>for them. I can't promise it will stop them. But

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<v Speaker 1>giving them a level of accountability, no matter Howell Thinn,

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<v Speaker 1>is necessary and the first step to fixing things. And

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate companies that make good shit. Celebrate things like the

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<v Speaker 1>steam Deck, one of the best consoles I've ever used.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that thing. So break companies like Anchor great

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<v Speaker 1>battery packs. There are things in tech that are still cool.

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<v Speaker 1>There are things in tech that are still good. You

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<v Speaker 1>just have to look for them, and you're not finding

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<v Speaker 1>them in big tech. And you're not finding them in

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<v Speaker 1>big tech because you are not the customer. You are

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<v Speaker 1>not the person that Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Sachin at

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<v Speaker 1>Deel or sand Uppishi cares about. No, they care about

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<v Speaker 1>the nebulous form of the shareholder, the markets and analyst targets.

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<v Speaker 1>You deserve better, so give them so much worse. Thank

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