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Speaker 1: right here, right now. This its Eyes up Here, and
Speaker 1: you're listening to an all new Eyes of Mers exclusively
Speaker 1: on our Patreon channel on video and on the Creative
Speaker 1: Control Network later in the week in audio form. But
Speaker 1: if you didn't invite now, my name is Chad, and
Speaker 1: every single week I'm joined here by the Queen of
Speaker 1: extreme Fancy. We have red letters now here at the bottom.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I noticed that I changed the thoughts
Speaker 1: a little bit in the color because I'm still fancy,
Speaker 1: but fancy. Welcome to another week of Eyes up Here. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you, thanks for having me today. Chat You're welcome.
Speaker 1: I'm great to have you. You know, it's always a
Speaker 1: beautiful day here in Virginia. But what's going on in
Speaker 1: your neck of the woods? I have BedHead today, rolled
Speaker 1: out and came downstairs. Now I took a shower, but
Speaker 1: the hair's a little damp, but I'm still suffering. Lost
Speaker 1: another pound. Oh jeez, these these spacers are actually making
Speaker 1: me fly over the cuckoo's nest. I'm going insane. They
Speaker 1: are so painful, and I can't even tell you how
Speaker 1: painful it is to chew. I'm going on two weeks
Speaker 1: and I can't eat. I can't eat, and I'm miserable
Speaker 1: and I'm just drastically losing weight and it's crazy. But
Speaker 1: I think you tweeted a picture the other day of
Speaker 1: like what you were making soup that was It's like,
Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine have even like if I had a
Speaker 1: dental problem or so, I couldn't imagine just having all
Speaker 1: liquid yea and no hard, solid crunch. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: So is even when you talk, like, do you feel
Speaker 1: the the apes when you speak? I do. It's it's
Speaker 1: a It's it's that dull pain that never goes away.
Speaker 1: Do you ever have a pain that just is constant?
Speaker 1: My mouth has been this way for like two weeks now.
Speaker 1: It feels like you have food stuff between your teeth,
Speaker 1: Like when you eat a steak, you get a piece
Speaker 1: of meat stuff. You have to get floss, you know. No,
Speaker 1: it's there's eight pieces of meat stuff between my teeth.
Speaker 1: And then when I bite down, it feels like I'm
Speaker 1: biting a rubber and my teeth are actually bouncing off
Speaker 1: each other. I can't get a good bite. So when
Speaker 1: I'm trying to chew, I can't choose my food. I've
Speaker 1: been trying to chew with my front teeth and I
Speaker 1: look like a rabbit. I'm like, you know what I
Speaker 1: mean exactly, And I'm just I tried to eat, like
Speaker 1: the one day I tried to eat a chip file
Speaker 1: at sandwich and that was a disaster. I couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: I just couldn't do it. So I've been eating soups
Speaker 1: to for lunch. Hubs is gonna make me a protein shake.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna drink that and probably have some soup for dinner,
Speaker 1: and that's it. That's all I eat. How about mashed potatoes.
Speaker 1: I could probably eat mashed potatoes, but the kids don't
Speaker 1: eat mashed potatoes. Husbands or the diet he won't eat
Speaker 1: mashed potatoes. My mom will eat like this much. So
Speaker 1: if I make them, it's like I just have to
Speaker 1: make it for me. And you know, eggs, maybe I
Speaker 1: didn't even try it. Yeah, they would have to. I
Speaker 1: guess they would have to be like scrambled or some
Speaker 1: fried egg If you're feeling ever so inclined, you know,
Speaker 1: to have walk on a wild side, get those two
Speaker 1: pounds back with three pounds. Yeah, Well, eggs aren't that
Speaker 1: many calories, So I don't you know, I'm just hoping
Speaker 1: that on Monday when I go, he's gonna say, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take them all out. Now, the question I
Speaker 1: had because I've never had braces before, are the bottom
Speaker 1: ones in for a reason because I'm not getting braces
Speaker 1: on the bottom for four to six months? So are
Speaker 1: they going to bands or something? Or did we just
Speaker 1: do this for shifts and giggles, like I think, I
Speaker 1: think that. I think the latter. Well, I then guess
Speaker 1: what my dentsis is going to get into earful because
Speaker 1: I have been miserable. Don't brush your teeth, get back
Speaker 1: at him. Don't brush your teeth that morning? Oh my god, Well,
Speaker 1: you know what they had said, don't floss. I thought
Speaker 1: they meant like where the bands were, right. I attempted
Speaker 1: to floss and it was like a bloodbath. I couldn't
Speaker 1: because they shifted so much. Now I noticed my bottom
Speaker 1: teeth have moved and I couldn't get the floss between
Speaker 1: the teeth without the bands. So I'm pushing and I'm bleeding,
Speaker 1: and I said, oh, this is just a disaster. I
Speaker 1: need to I feel so bad for you. I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear how it goes after Well,
Speaker 1: maybe Wednesday. I'll check in with you. I'll give you,
Speaker 1: I'll give you a few days. But you know, like
Speaker 1: we said, your dude is sit in the chair next Friday.
Speaker 1: So I'm curious to see what the you know, the
Speaker 1: revamped smile is going to. I can't my next Friday,
Speaker 1: I know. And then they're like, well, my girlfriend. I
Speaker 1: was talking to her yesterday and she's like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: when you get these taken out and put the braces on,
Speaker 1: that's a whole different level of pain. I said, damn,
Speaker 1: but I think I can eat because they'll be on
Speaker 1: the top and not you know, nothing will be you know,
Speaker 1: preventing me from eating and chewing. So I just want
Speaker 1: to eat. I'm a cranky bitch who wants a sandwich. Well,
Speaker 1: well I believe it. I believe Yeah. So well let's see.
Speaker 1: So that's Monday, we're recording Friday. Of course that's Monday.
Speaker 1: So by next Friday will be five days in. I mean,
Speaker 1: this could be a new, whole new You might not
Speaker 1: be happy next Friday. You still might be in a
Speaker 1: little bit of pain. I'm not happy now, but look
Speaker 1: at me I have a smile on my face that
Speaker 1: I'm kid. I know how to turn it on when
Speaker 1: I need to. Maybe we should have some dental based
Speaker 1: content next week. Yeah. Although, hey, my little one lost
Speaker 1: her first tooth the other night and I had to
Speaker 1: leave the room because I can't be around the Oh
Speaker 1: that's right. We talked about this last time. I would
Speaker 1: a yank. That's sucker right out. You hear the pop
Speaker 1: when it comes out. Oh man, I look, I came
Speaker 1: downstairs and then she came and it's like the other
Speaker 1: one's already like half grown behind it. Now, how did
Speaker 1: it fall out? Did Liz have to pullis she had
Speaker 1: to pull? It was hanging on by a thread. It
Speaker 1: was it actually was nasty to get that the dangle
Speaker 1: than it was after it came out. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: know she was a trooper. It was Uh, it was good.
Speaker 1: Tooth Fairy came, took care of business. Oh tooth fairy.
Speaker 1: It has been leaving lots of money tooth fairy has
Speaker 1: tooth fairy. Tooth Fairy introduced her to Abraham Lincoln. It
Speaker 1: was pretty Uh, you know, that's the first one, first one,
Speaker 1: ser you know, first one special. That's a high. That's
Speaker 1: a high dollar tooth there. I just want to point
Speaker 1: out for I was just going to give you a
Speaker 1: tip for a few let's hear it, because it's difficult
Speaker 1: to get the tooth from under the pillow it. Indeed,
Speaker 1: so what I told my kids, because I'm brilliant, that
Speaker 1: they have to put it in a baggie because the
Speaker 1: tooth fairy doesn't want to mix up teeth. So when
Speaker 1: they put it in a baggie, it's easy to grab
Speaker 1: the baggy and slide it from under the pillow, and
Speaker 1: that gives the parent the opportunity to pretty brilliant. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to nice now. You would think the tooth
Speaker 1: fairy could be equipped with like DNA technology, so if
Speaker 1: there was to be some sort of mix up of teeth,
Speaker 1: all they have to do is test the tooth to
Speaker 1: see who it belost it. Well, we don't discuss that
Speaker 1: with the children. We just tell the children they need
Speaker 1: to put it in a little baggie and then we
Speaker 1: make the baggies brilliant the pillow and then you just
Speaker 1: pull it brilliant rather than tussle them while they're trying
Speaker 1: to sleep. Because in the beginning, it was like she
Speaker 1: put the tooth in the middle of the pillow, so
Speaker 1: my hand it's like trying to slide and get that
Speaker 1: tooth out there. It's difficult. And then I was like,
Speaker 1: there's to be an easier way, so put it in
Speaker 1: a zip block and then just pull it out. You're
Speaker 1: good to go. Mental note for for the next time.
Speaker 1: I just want to point out before we have our
Speaker 1: guests pop on. He's not on yet, but when he
Speaker 1: comes on, I don't want to take up all the
Speaker 1: time Later, I'm contemplating dropping think while he drinks Part
Speaker 1: one and two as one full episode on creative Control
Speaker 1: so that people see what they missed from like like
Speaker 1: like a like a bonus for them just to see
Speaker 1: what they missed because I have to reveal to you
Speaker 1: was it hilarious? I kept well. I kept drinking after
Speaker 1: we were done, and I had to count two shows
Speaker 1: to record after we were done. Were you bombed? Oh?
Speaker 1: I would By the last one. I was so out
Speaker 1: of it commercation, so I did. I actually had Hughesy
Speaker 1: came on and did my New Generation show. He was drinking,
Speaker 1: so I was drinking still, and then I had the
Speaker 1: Baseball one afterwards with a good buddy of mine who
Speaker 1: I've gotten to know over the last year or so,
Speaker 1: and I was trying so hard to focus. Oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: that was It was unbelievable. But our guest is joyous. Hey,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that later on, but it was very funny.
Speaker 1: Here we go, we want to introduce some latiris. This
Speaker 1: is a current r OH superstar, Matt Tavan. Everyone. Hello,
Speaker 1: I did. I feel like I came in right in
Speaker 1: the midst of a good story and I was ready
Speaker 1: to hear the rest of it. And I feel like
Speaker 1: I ruined everything in a nutshell. Last week we did
Speaker 1: a Patreon we have a Patreon group here, and we
Speaker 1: did a Drink While You Think, and so we were
Speaker 1: drinking for an hour and playing a game and chat.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry there was more drinking than thinking. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Chad proceeded to drink while he had two more podcasts
Speaker 1: to film, and he was bombed because he just kept
Speaker 1: consuming alcohol. So he was just telling me how drunk
Speaker 1: he was by the third and I had to be
Speaker 1: serious by the third one too, and it was so hard.
Speaker 1: So I tried so hard to focus and there were
Speaker 1: probably the best podcast as you ever did, because you
Speaker 1: loosened up. I'm looking at it right here, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at it. Sorry, on the left hand side. I have
Speaker 1: the I went thirty five minutes in eight seconds, drunk,
Speaker 1: stone faced, but drunk. Remember zero of it. I don't
Speaker 1: remember a thing about what I talked about. I really don't,
Speaker 1: but I was so I had like Wikipedia Baseball reference.
Speaker 1: I had all these screens up to keep me like looking.
Speaker 1: I was so guy. I have no idea. I can't
Speaker 1: listen to it back because it's going to be embarrassing.
Speaker 1: That is terrible. You should be ashamed of yoursel I'm sure. Matt.
Speaker 1: First of all, I feel bad because we were Matt
Speaker 1: and I were in Disney World at the same park
Speaker 1: on the same day, wow, and we never crossed paths.
Speaker 1: I heard this. I only heard this as I was
Speaker 1: exiting that you were there, and I was like, wait
Speaker 1: a second, I let's go back in the park to
Speaker 1: run into she Mary Kate. I believe you were with
Speaker 1: a good friend of both of ours. She had sent
Speaker 1: us a text, and I believe you guys were where
Speaker 1: we had just left from and we just got the
Speaker 1: kids snacks and we were exhausted and sweaty, and she's like, oh,
Speaker 1: come back to the other side of the park. No, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I don't know how you handle. I can barely manage
Speaker 1: Disney World by myself with kids and stuff. I don't
Speaker 1: know how you guys best let me tell you if
Speaker 1: you ever, I don't know if you want children or not.
Speaker 1: But when you got I'm sorry, that's okay to each
Speaker 1: the room. But when you go with your children and
Speaker 1: you see things through their eyes, it is the most
Speaker 1: rewarding feeling ever and it makes me so happy, and
Speaker 1: I'm just I don't know, I love it. On the
Speaker 1: other hand, I did go to Disney as a child
Speaker 1: with my father and my and my grandfather, I believe,
Speaker 1: and me and my cousin like went off to do
Speaker 1: something and my dad was like, come back to this
Speaker 1: very spot as soon as you're done. And of course
Speaker 1: we didn't do that because we were kids. If we're
Speaker 1: gone for about two and a half hours, and I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure I caused my dad like to have a
Speaker 1: heart attack that day. So, you know, the wonder of
Speaker 1: children at Disney. In Disney, that's scary because there's a
Speaker 1: million people there and if you hear mom, like when
Speaker 1: I hear mom at Disney, Yeah, even if my kids
Speaker 1: are next to me, I'm like, who said that? There's
Speaker 1: eighty seven million children there? Like, is it my kid?
Speaker 1: Is it someone else's kids? You don't know? Yeah, Well
Speaker 1: back up, after being missing for about two and a
Speaker 1: half hours with those giant turkey legs if they sell
Speaker 1: at Disney, thinking like, no big deal, my dad leg
Speaker 1: in your hand? Oh yeah, I'm like, I'm literally like
Speaker 1: in fifth grade. It's just after being gone for two
Speaker 1: hours with a giant turkey leg, my dad, I can
Speaker 1: see from far away sweating pacing. I'm like, oh, oh,
Speaker 1: we messed up right now? And were you? Oh? I
Speaker 1: thought we were leaving. I thought we were never going
Speaker 1: to come back. But you know, by the time we
Speaker 1: got to the gate, I think my grandfather talked to
Speaker 1: me out of being so bad. So what what normally
Speaker 1: happens with all bad kids is that you're you're you're
Speaker 1: forced to go to Epcot, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I think that's what you're bad at Disney, You're forced
Speaker 1: to go to Epcot. As an adult, I love Epcot,
Speaker 1: but as like, please nothing but Epcott. I'd rather go
Speaker 1: back to the hotel. But but back then, Epcot sucked.
Speaker 1: Now for kids. But I remember like back then it
Speaker 1: was like, oh, you want to learn go to Epcot,
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, And I didn't want to a good Epcot
Speaker 1: trip after that. Yeah, you have a point. See, I
Speaker 1: never went as a child. I never went to Disney
Speaker 1: as a child. We went to Wildwood, New Jersey every
Speaker 1: year for two weeks. That was our big vacation. I
Speaker 1: went as an adult for the first time when I
Speaker 1: was in a c W. Yeah, and fell in love
Speaker 1: with it. And then, you know, ever since I got mad,
Speaker 1: we just started going every single year. We go for
Speaker 1: two weeks and that's our big, big deal. But I
Speaker 1: felt so bad. I was like, man, if we weren't
Speaker 1: here already for like six hours and the kids were
Speaker 1: just melting, they were just sitting there with their popsicles
Speaker 1: and melting, And I said, I totally would have ran
Speaker 1: to say hello. So I apologize for that. No, no
Speaker 1: worries at all. I don't know how you juggle kids
Speaker 1: in Disney, so pulling that off, I love it. Are
Speaker 1: you a big mark for Disney? Now as an adult,
Speaker 1: I enjoy it so much more now you know, I'm
Speaker 1: a theme park guy in general, Like as a kid,
Speaker 1: you know, a big trip for us was always to
Speaker 1: go to a different theme park. I would go to
Speaker 1: the Six Flags in New Jersey a bunch. They had
Speaker 1: finally brought a six Flags up to New England, Busch
Speaker 1: Gardens of West Virginia. But I have to say, like, now,
Speaker 1: you know, as far as the Florida theme parks go,
Speaker 1: nothing touches Busch Gardens at Tampa. Are you a big
Speaker 1: bowler coster? Yeah, that's exactly why. Like you know, the
Speaker 1: coasters in that at that Busch Gardens, no one can
Speaker 1: touch it. Like the experience obviously at Disney and Universal
Speaker 1: is awesome. And like I went down Hollywood, are horror
Speaker 1: nights at Universal so good? I'm so scared it's worth it.
Speaker 1: It is awesome. I would need to depend. I would
Speaker 1: crap my pants, there's my life, well, you know, pack
Speaker 1: of diaper and head on down there for October because
Speaker 1: I think it's definitely worth it, even for you know,
Speaker 1: destroying a pair of pants or two. But I would
Speaker 1: love to do it and blog it or go live
Speaker 1: on Twitch, or do it for the site. Because I
Speaker 1: am the biggest bab I hate Halloween. I'm not gonna lie,
Speaker 1: like I know I hate it yet dresses up to
Speaker 1: the complete, like highest extent with you know, makeup. I
Speaker 1: do it for the people. I absolutely hate it. It's
Speaker 1: not my deal, but I think it would be funny
Speaker 1: if I did something like that, because my dream is
Speaker 1: to live in Florida. Like that's what we're working on.
Speaker 1: We want to relocate eventually, do it. And so I
Speaker 1: want to I want to like leave wrestling and be
Speaker 1: a blogger, you know, it's it's the way to go.
Speaker 1: I mean, more people are streaming and debuting stuff like
Speaker 1: twitch than than anything else these days. It seems like
Speaker 1: I think people would would fall if you're that terrified
Speaker 1: of Halloween. I think I will tune in for you
Speaker 1: walking around Horror Nights down at Universal because they do
Speaker 1: such a good job of it. It's uh, it's it's
Speaker 1: not terrifying, I don't think, but it's for someone that
Speaker 1: I think would be, you know, a little jumpy during Halloween.
Speaker 1: I would be pretty entertained watching you walk through some
Speaker 1: of those houses. It's not a little it's absolutely horrifying.
Speaker 1: I can't I went in one harnted house my whole
Speaker 1: life and we got kicked out. So it's not we
Speaker 1: almost got kicked out. Of a haunted house in Vegas
Speaker 1: one time as the Ring of Honor group and just
Speaker 1: as a quick story, you know, they they had all
Speaker 1: these people jump up and like grab you and whatnot,
Speaker 1: and they had a little person in a costume and
Speaker 1: come out of this tiny door and everyone thought it
Speaker 1: was just like a mechanical thing. So one of the
Speaker 1: guys like fake superkicked it, like slapped his n didn't
Speaker 1: come close to it, but I guess on their cameras
Speaker 1: it looked like someone just super kicked this little person
Speaker 1: as we were walking through. So all sense security came
Speaker 1: through and I had to be the dad of the
Speaker 1: group and be like, oh no, we're wrestlers. He didn't
Speaker 1: come anywhere close, please God. He took a lot of
Speaker 1: money when we went through. I went through with like Tommy,
Speaker 1: Dreamer and Sign guy Dudley and his girlfriend and it
Speaker 1: was the four of us and the guy from Scream
Speaker 1: with the white map, you know, that white pant had
Speaker 1: a knife and he went like this to me and
Speaker 1: he stabbed my arm like it's one of the that
Speaker 1: goes in. Yeah. Yeah, he kind of got me, and
Speaker 1: I remember Dreamer threatened him and while he was getting
Speaker 1: threatened Jason, is he the one with the mask? He whispered,
Speaker 1: in my ear, your friend's not that bright izzy, and
Speaker 1: I turned around. I started calling a promo on him,
Speaker 1: and they were just like, you have to leave through
Speaker 1: this stuff, like this whole group out of here. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like, you know, maybe we're
Speaker 1: we're not as compatible as I thought. I have a
Speaker 1: giant screen poster in my my theater room as I
Speaker 1: uh literally, that face is the I love horror movies,
Speaker 1: you know it's I love I Okay, I loved horror
Speaker 1: movies until I became a mother. Now because the kid's eyes, no,
Speaker 1: I envisioned bad things happening to my kids, like and
Speaker 1: it's I think. And I thought I was crazy, but
Speaker 1: I asked other mothers and they agreed with me. So
Speaker 1: it's it's a mother thing. I can't watch horror anymore.
Speaker 1: I was a big Trauma Mark too, Like I loved
Speaker 1: Lloyd Kaufman and Trauma and I had like forty of
Speaker 1: the movie sold the mall. I was like, I can't
Speaker 1: watch it. No, it makes me very nervous. I guess
Speaker 1: that's a little more understandable. See, I only have to
Speaker 1: worry about myself. So I'm like, I got you all
Speaker 1: our movies, well before we go into your career, because
Speaker 1: I want to talk about roh. I want to know
Speaker 1: the story because I just know this much. What is
Speaker 1: the third boob story? And you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny is that I just moved to
Speaker 1: a new place. So I was trying to actually when
Speaker 1: I knew I was going to do this, trying to
Speaker 1: find that photo so bad it must be still at
Speaker 1: my parents' house in New Hampshire. But like, well, so
Speaker 1: I grew up in the Northeast. I grew up in Hampshire.
Speaker 1: I lived in Boston after that, and you know we're
Speaker 1: out of New Hampshire. Jerry, New Hampshire, so literally next
Speaker 1: to the Ice and in Salem where you guys used
Speaker 1: to come for ECW because my dad's from My dad
Speaker 1: was from Manchester. Oh yeah, yeah, fifteen minutes up the road. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I'm a New Hampshire guy and you know my dad,
Speaker 1: I would talk him into driving me and my friends
Speaker 1: to go see ECW, whether it was at you know,
Speaker 1: at a beer at Wonderland or in Salem at the
Speaker 1: Ice Center. And my dad's not a wrestling guy or fan.
Speaker 1: He never understood why I loved wrestling so much. But
Speaker 1: he would drop us off at ECW as like a twelve, thirteen,
Speaker 1: fourteen year old kid, and he had no idea what
Speaker 1: he was dropping us off at. So by the way,
Speaker 1: he just thought it was wrestling, and he was in
Speaker 1: a wrestling fan. So he was like, Oh, I'll pick
Speaker 1: you guys up after the show or whatever, and I'll
Speaker 1: never forget. Like one time in particular, Steve Carino had
Speaker 1: threw his hair back and he was bleeding and he
Speaker 1: just got blood all me and so like, my dad
Speaker 1: picks me up. I'm like thirteen or fourteen. My dad
Speaker 1: picks me up, I'm covered in sweat and blood and
Speaker 1: I smell like someone's beer. That's where are what is
Speaker 1: this that I'm dropping you guys off at? So you know,
Speaker 1: my dad was already kind of weird now by ACW.
Speaker 1: But then my mom put I put this picture up
Speaker 1: that I happened to get at that show, and it's
Speaker 1: literally me and you and you. All you could do
Speaker 1: was like there was a table and they weren't letting
Speaker 1: like me get right next to you, so you had
Speaker 1: to like lean forward into the picture. So it's my
Speaker 1: head as like a thirteen year old and you're cleavage,
Speaker 1: So it just looks like like the size of my
Speaker 1: head is the same as as as your boobs there.
Speaker 1: So it's just like, you know, three boobs in a row.
Speaker 1: And I had that like right up on top of
Speaker 1: my you know, like my desk at or my dresser
Speaker 1: at home. My mom was like, what are you guys
Speaker 1: doing where? Probably said, what a pig girl. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I was like coming home covered in blood pictures of
Speaker 1: me and you you know, a lot of cleavage in
Speaker 1: the picture. I was like, this is the greatest thing ever.
Speaker 1: You guys don't understand. ECW is the best and so uh,
Speaker 1: it's most memories from those shows have nothing to do
Speaker 1: with the matches themselves. It always has to do with like,
Speaker 1: you know, things like that or like Tommy, I had
Speaker 1: a WCW sucks sign one time because I thought it
Speaker 1: was so cool. It was like a thirteen year old
Speaker 1: and Tommy Dreamer like found me afterwards. It was like
Speaker 1: I saw you walking around with your WCW sucks sign
Speaker 1: and like, give me something else to sign. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to sign that, And like it was just so cool.
Speaker 1: I saw Ball's mahone again a fight with a fan,
Speaker 1: you know, this classic ECW stuff that. Yeah, Like I
Speaker 1: can barely remember the matches themselves, but it was the
Speaker 1: experience of always being something always went down at like
Speaker 1: Wonderland too and Revere that's where mass transit happened. Yet
Speaker 1: where the dog braces were. Yes, yeah, yeah, so I
Speaker 1: wasn't there for mass transit and uh but like after that,
Speaker 1: everyone knew that that you know, was that had happened.
Speaker 1: So everyone was so rowdy at those shows. I just
Speaker 1: remember being a kid like trying to survive as and
Speaker 1: not be trampled as Like guys would fight in the
Speaker 1: crowd and I'd be getting pushed and I'd be like,
Speaker 1: this is the greatest day of my life. I love it,
Speaker 1: And did you want to get into the business at
Speaker 1: that point. I've wanted to be a wrestler since I
Speaker 1: was six years old, Like, I saw wrestling on TV.
Speaker 1: My great uncle, I guess my grandfather's brother was like
Speaker 1: a huge wrestling fan, and he got me into it
Speaker 1: as a kid staying over our house one weekend just
Speaker 1: he was watching it and I like sat down and
Speaker 1: was hooked. Ever since my parents had no They did
Speaker 1: not get it at all. And I broke every piece
Speaker 1: of furniture they ever owned and made it even more,
Speaker 1: you know, doing all this wrestling every pillow I can
Speaker 1: find and stuff, and they never like they were always like, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: you want to be a wrestler, go to college. So
Speaker 1: once I was done with college and stuff, and I
Speaker 1: had like a I actually started working for the New
Speaker 1: England Patriots and the New England Revolution right after college,
Speaker 1: working in the office, and it just wasn't for me.
Speaker 1: Like I was at this cubicle every day, and even
Speaker 1: though it was cool, like the experience with the team,
Speaker 1: I'll never forget. Like I called my dad and was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I think I'm going to try to
Speaker 1: be a wrestler. And I thought he was going to
Speaker 1: talk me out of it and be like, go back inside,
Speaker 1: don't go back to your job. Stop stop calling me
Speaker 1: with this nonsense. And he was like, you're only young once,
Speaker 1: you know do if you want to go for it.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm walking inside right now to quit.
Speaker 1: And this is all in my mind that because I
Speaker 1: had the same epiphany. I was working in an insurance
Speaker 1: company in a cubicle and I called my dad and
Speaker 1: I said, I can't do this anymore. Now. If you
Speaker 1: think I'm lying, go back and listen to any interview
Speaker 1: I've ever done. And I knew I was going to
Speaker 1: probably start wrestling school that summer, and my Dad's like,
Speaker 1: go quit, come down the shore for a while, get
Speaker 1: your head clear, and then start what you want to
Speaker 1: do soon. It must be that new England blood and
Speaker 1: it must Dad, It must be because like I, honestly,
Speaker 1: you know, I had started kind of I knew someone that,
Speaker 1: like a friend of mine who I used to backyard
Speaker 1: wrestle with, had started wrestling on the indies, and so
Speaker 1: like I knew like someone that was doing it, and
Speaker 1: I was kind of checking out what he was doing,
Speaker 1: kind of figuring out if I could train here or there.
Speaker 1: And I remember like coming up with this game plan.
Speaker 1: But in the back of my mind, I was like,
Speaker 1: my parents are gonna say you're an idiot, and then
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at all the bills I have to
Speaker 1: pay and be like, what are you doing? And I
Speaker 1: couldn't believe that they were like, yeah, go for it.
Speaker 1: And my mom, who who's the sweetest, and but her
Speaker 1: biggest concern is always me getting hurt. You know, was
Speaker 1: always very like, uh do you want to do that?
Speaker 1: Why don't you try to be an actor or something?
Speaker 1: But now she's like my biggest band. Like everybody play something.
Speaker 1: That's like the first like I see is like my mom.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, you huh? Who ended up training you?
Speaker 1: When you decided this is what you're going to do? Well?
Speaker 1: Very e CW. This is a ECW all the way around.
Speaker 1: Spike Dudley trained me. So I got into like the
Speaker 1: New England indie scene and Spike Head was was training
Speaker 1: at Top Road Promotions, a place called the Lock Up Academy.
Speaker 1: He had had started running in Fall River, and I
Speaker 1: kind of didn't know what I was doing. I was
Speaker 1: just you know, bouncing around trying to get advice and
Speaker 1: have anyone train me. And someone came to me and
Speaker 1: was like, listen, if you really want to do this,
Speaker 1: Spike Dudley has a school and so I was living
Speaker 1: in Boston at the time, and then I just started
Speaker 1: driving you know, the hour down the Fall River every
Speaker 1: every other day to train with Spike and you know,
Speaker 1: it worked out in the end. I think I think
Speaker 1: you're doing pretty good for yourself, jeez is great and
Speaker 1: another and like, I didn't know what I was getting into.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't know anything about necessarily Spike as
Speaker 1: a human. I just knew what I saw on TV.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, man, I'm going to Spike Dudley School.
Speaker 1: What is this going to be like? Is it's going
Speaker 1: to be like easy? I know nothing At the time,
Speaker 1: I'm like, am I going to be you know, doing
Speaker 1: e c W hardcore type tring training? And Spike just
Speaker 1: blew my mind with the amount of knowledge that he
Speaker 1: he had about every like technical wrestling, that grappling, high flying.
Speaker 1: He knew everything. He was just so smart that he
Speaker 1: knew that this was his path to make money in
Speaker 1: the business, and you know, really went for it. But
Speaker 1: I always I always bring up there's a match between
Speaker 1: Spike and Rob Van dam that's like on a house
Speaker 1: show at ECW that I like found one time going
Speaker 1: through the VHS's at the Old School, and we're like,
Speaker 1: Spike looks more like Rob van Damn than Rob van
Speaker 1: dam does. He's doing all this high flying, so he's
Speaker 1: like blowing my mind. I'm like, Spike, where why didn't
Speaker 1: you do this all the time, He's like, because I
Speaker 1: wasn't going to make money being the small guy doing
Speaker 1: the same stuff rby D was doing. They I was
Speaker 1: going to make money, get it beat up. And I
Speaker 1: was like, yep, yeah, I know nothing about wrestling. Please. Yeah.
Speaker 1: His deal was just getting thrown in the audience and
Speaker 1: then the fans ate that up. It didn't matter if
Speaker 1: it happened once or a million times. They just that
Speaker 1: spot was like iconic and they loved it. So he
Speaker 1: was great. He was great to me, and still, you know,
Speaker 1: to this day, when if I go back up to
Speaker 1: Rhode Island or Massachusetts, you know, I'll try to find
Speaker 1: a way to see him here and there. But it
Speaker 1: seems like he's doing good. He's got a family now
Speaker 1: and yeah like that. So you know, thank you, Spike,
Speaker 1: thanks for having I love that. So so you start training,
Speaker 1: when do you get your first big break? And how
Speaker 1: do you transfer over to ro Oh? So like it's
Speaker 1: weird because I feel like a lot of things happened
Speaker 1: very quickly for me, and and it was I think
Speaker 1: more because New England had there were so many places,
Speaker 1: so many schools, so many shows, so many companies in
Speaker 1: New England, and then also in New York and New Jersey.
Speaker 1: That whole Northeast from Philadelphia to Boston is just a
Speaker 1: hotbed of wrestling, and you know, it's like almost like
Speaker 1: being born, like raised in a pressure cooker where it's
Speaker 1: like you got to kind of find your way out
Speaker 1: of here. And there's so much pressure in this in
Speaker 1: this little area that diamonds are going to just start
Speaker 1: shooting out of it. And there's so many good guys
Speaker 1: that came from that area, Mike Bennett, so Warbard Hanson
Speaker 1: or Ibar whatever he is now. And it's like all
Speaker 1: those guys, we're all at like the same age at
Speaker 1: the same time, in the same place, and we're all
Speaker 1: kind of we're like, I don't care how far it is,
Speaker 1: We're getting in the car together. We're going everywhere. And
Speaker 1: it just happened very very quickly. And there's a place
Speaker 1: up in the Northeast called Northeast Wrestling. It they get
Speaker 1: you know, they do baseball stadiums. They have great, huge
Speaker 1: shows up there. And I was just going to do
Speaker 1: Ring Crew one time and some guy ended up dropping
Speaker 1: out of the show last minute. I had my gear.
Speaker 1: Next thing I watch the most important thing. Always bring
Speaker 1: your gear bag with you. Of course, of course, so
Speaker 1: next thing I know, I'm in the ring with Big
Speaker 1: Daddy V getting like squashed. I'm like, I have no
Speaker 1: I'm so green. I have no business being in the
Speaker 1: ring with anyone at this point, And like, those pitches
Speaker 1: will be iconic for me forever, because it was like
Speaker 1: the first time that it was like something big that
Speaker 1: I did. And after that, I just started kind of
Speaker 1: rolling with Northeast Wrestling and really kind of my friendships
Speaker 1: with other people from Tomaso and Mike Bennett, and as
Speaker 1: they were they had been in the business a little
Speaker 1: bit longer, so as they were kind of going to
Speaker 1: other places, I would just really tag along and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: I know, if you need anyone here, I am And
Speaker 1: I would do that at a Ring of Honor, and
Speaker 1: it was just one of those things where same situation.
Speaker 1: After a certain amount of time, if you're that kid
Speaker 1: that's always around helping out and it's just there and
Speaker 1: has their gear, there's going to be a time where
Speaker 1: they need to fill a position. And the same thing
Speaker 1: happened with Ring of Honor, and I always kind of
Speaker 1: told myself, you know, these opportunities don't come every day,
Speaker 1: so like, if you have the chance to do it
Speaker 1: and get in front of people, yet you have to
Speaker 1: come ready to impress. So I did a bunch of
Speaker 1: darks for for Ring of Honor for a while, really
Speaker 1: almost for like a year and a half, two years,
Speaker 1: and then finally, you know, one day Jim Cornett came
Speaker 1: up to me and was like, like, Matt Tavian, I
Speaker 1: always thought you were a puppy with big pause. It's
Speaker 1: time for you to grow into those big paus. I
Speaker 1: think we want to sign you to a contract. I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know what any of that what
Speaker 1: you just said, besides you to a contract, I'm all
Speaker 1: for it. So I don't know what that means, but
Speaker 1: let's go. So what is this new Jim Cornett, Oh,
Speaker 1: this is twenty twelve. So like I signed, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: January one, twenty thirteen with Ring of Honor, And it
Speaker 1: was like it was crazy. There was so much of
Speaker 1: us that signed at the same as that time. Me
Speaker 1: Adam Page, Silas Young, We're still at Ring of Honor. Ah,
Speaker 1: we all signed on the same day, Q T. Marshall,
Speaker 1: and it was just kind of like a new class
Speaker 1: had come in and we were like and I look
Speaker 1: back at it now. I just was at Jay Lethos
Speaker 1: school last night and he's got all these old DVDs
Speaker 1: a ring of Honor, and I'm pulling them out and
Speaker 1: reading them, and I'm like, man, this is like year
Speaker 1: one for me. And I have no business being on
Speaker 1: this show with any of these, all these you know,
Speaker 1: it's like Kevin Owens and Claudio and and you know,
Speaker 1: Chris Heiro. It's like all these guys that are so good.
Speaker 1: I was like, I had no business being on that
Speaker 1: show at that time. But I'm glad I was able
Speaker 1: to stick it out and stick around for so long.
Speaker 1: See the thing with you and and I'm this the
Speaker 1: first time we're actually meeting, but you're you're humble, which
Speaker 1: is so nice to see. It's it's refreshing because a
Speaker 1: lot of these in your own gimmick by the way
Speaker 1: you're yourself. But it's very attractive to see because there's
Speaker 1: a lot of guys who come in and they think
Speaker 1: that they're the ship right away and they should be,
Speaker 1: you know, on top right away, and they don't want
Speaker 1: to pay dues and and you know, or they come
Speaker 1: they come from a you know, they were on TV
Speaker 1: as an actor or they did this or they did that,
Speaker 1: and they think they're entitled and right away they should
Speaker 1: be in the main event spot. So you you sound
Speaker 1: like you came in the correct way. You had your
Speaker 1: maith shut listened, you had your gear bag, you're ready.
Speaker 1: So it's nice to hear. I'm sure there'd be plenty
Speaker 1: of people that say I had my mouth open, because
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure I ruffled a plenty of others
Speaker 1: along the way. But I agree, I think that that's
Speaker 1: one of the most important things. And luckily as things
Speaker 1: started evolving in the New England wrestling scene, you know,
Speaker 1: there was opening for kind of like a new school
Speaker 1: to pop up with a promotion up there called the XIBA.
Speaker 1: So me and Mike Bennett started helping train at the school,
Speaker 1: and that was one of the biggest things that we
Speaker 1: would tell people, like, you're not entitled to anything in wrestling,
Speaker 1: like you know, and not to name drop, but I
Speaker 1: can remember Sean Michaels saying to like a group of
Speaker 1: us one time, like wrestling will make zero sense. It
Speaker 1: makes no sense, So stop trying to make sense of
Speaker 1: it because you'll drive yourself crazy. All you have to
Speaker 1: do is continue to try to do what you're doing
Speaker 1: and hopefully something breaks. And you know, I can't tell
Speaker 1: you how many guys come in, especially guys that and
Speaker 1: it's I understand it. Guys that come from at backgrounds
Speaker 1: or come from MMA or some shoot fighting. They'll come
Speaker 1: in thinking like I can beat everyone's ass here. Why
Speaker 1: am I not the champion exactly? Like it doesn't work
Speaker 1: like that. There's so much more than just the competition
Speaker 1: that comes in the ring that you know, it's nice
Speaker 1: to kind of pass those lessons down. And I have
Speaker 1: to really credit like guys like Mike Bennett who were
Speaker 1: always super humble and that they were, you know, bringing
Speaker 1: me along to places, and I was kind of seeing
Speaker 1: how humble they were and how people would respond to it.
Speaker 1: And it's like, Okay, I know nothing about wrestling, but
Speaker 1: I know that if you're you know, you know, Tony
Speaker 1: tough Nuts over here saying that you should be champ
Speaker 1: and like you're too good to set up the chairs,
Speaker 1: you're not going to get very far, right. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: this is funny. So I used to go to all
Speaker 1: those rh shows, you know, back in your early days
Speaker 1: when you were just you know, like you said in
Speaker 1: the dark matches and you could see, you know, as
Speaker 1: you worked your way up the card. But what was
Speaker 1: interesting about that is exactly what you're saying is you
Speaker 1: kind of saw r weights would always fill the gaps
Speaker 1: with whoever left, they would be that next guy up.
Speaker 1: Anybody who was in those early matches, they were there
Speaker 1: for a reason. And to see where you are now.
Speaker 1: It's fascinating because I was there at the beginning at
Speaker 1: those shows and you see those guys that you just
Speaker 1: mentioned as everybody kind of moved up, You see the
Speaker 1: guys who started the bottom move up with them. So
Speaker 1: they So how much did you really like kind of
Speaker 1: take stock in the spots that you were given at
Speaker 1: that point scene, how everybody in ROAH kind of progressed
Speaker 1: on as they went along. I mean, you're one hundred
Speaker 1: percent right. It still to this day you can see
Speaker 1: all the guys that are up, you know on ROH
Speaker 1: started down here underneath do in dark matches and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. And I personally was was picking up on
Speaker 1: the same thing that you're talking about, was Okay, they're
Speaker 1: putting you in these spots for a reason because they
Speaker 1: want to see if you can go, if you can
Speaker 1: move up the ladder here, and there's one match in
Speaker 1: particular that really I kind of owe my whole career
Speaker 1: on its. Mike Mondo was down and he was there
Speaker 1: at Ring of Honor at the time, and he kind
Speaker 1: of felt like he was a little bit stagnant that
Speaker 1: he needed to do something, and they put us in
Speaker 1: a match where I really was just to get Mike
Speaker 1: Mondo over and Mike was like, listen, both of us
Speaker 1: need to really kind of do something today to get
Speaker 1: on everyone's radar. And again, I'm still like, you know,
Speaker 1: like four years in, like show me whatever you think about,
Speaker 1: and he kind of came up with something that had
Speaker 1: like we're in Baltimore and I'll never forget, like I've
Speaker 1: never had anyone chant my name or anything like that,
Speaker 1: and there's people are chanted Tavin. I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: We had a six minute match that literally when I
Speaker 1: walked out, I was grabbed by the Ring of Honor
Speaker 1: guys and said like, okay, we're going to do something
Speaker 1: here and X y Z down the line. And it
Speaker 1: was really just because Mike Mondo saw something in me
Speaker 1: and said like I can do something with this that
Speaker 1: not only is going to get myself over, but we'll
Speaker 1: get him over as well. And I couldn't be any
Speaker 1: more gracious towards him for that night because there's who
Speaker 1: knows what would happen to me if if that match
Speaker 1: never happens. But without a doubt, the reason why I've
Speaker 1: been in Ring of Honor for the last eight years
Speaker 1: is because that one match underneath uh going with with
Speaker 1: Mike Mondo, and I think I was there for that,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, it triggered so no, it
Speaker 1: triggered something. And I just again, I remember you would
Speaker 1: see him on the cart in those early spots and
Speaker 1: you saw obviously he had something. And anybody that they
Speaker 1: put that emphasis on you had to put stock in
Speaker 1: as a fan because they had their eye on them.
Speaker 1: So whether they were telling you or not, and they
Speaker 1: were no selling you. You know, behind the scenes, you
Speaker 1: could just see from the product itself who was going
Speaker 1: to be the next minted guys of r O WAH.
Speaker 1: That was always something that I love to watch about it,
Speaker 1: you know when the R WAH really was. I mean
Speaker 1: it's still, you know, the great presence they have, but
Speaker 1: back then it was like, if it's a r H guy,
Speaker 1: you got to keep your eye on them, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: And it's funny because I have to have those same
Speaker 1: conversations with like younger guys today that are just getting
Speaker 1: into the Ring of honor. They're like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm doing. I'm like, there's a
Speaker 1: reason why you're in this spot, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: They see something in you in the future. They're just
Speaker 1: it's a slow builds, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 1: and and I I think I'm you know, I don't
Speaker 1: want to say I'm humble, but I think I come
Speaker 1: off as humble because I went up that slow build
Speaker 1: and I could. I felt like that was the way
Speaker 1: to go as a wrestling fan in general. You know,
Speaker 1: I've been a wrestling fan, like I said, since I
Speaker 1: was six five, six years old. The people that worked
Speaker 1: their way up. You know, I grew up a six
Speaker 1: year old in love with Brett Hard thinking he's the
Speaker 1: coolest guy ever. And to see him go from like
Speaker 1: the tag titles he hits to contact the title to
Speaker 1: when finally he was wrestled for the world title, it
Speaker 1: felt like, that's my guy. Here's the beginning. I made
Speaker 1: this happen so like I kind of always felt the
Speaker 1: same thing as like as as a wrestler that I
Speaker 1: want to be in my career. I always wanted to
Speaker 1: be that guy that worked his way up, and you know,
Speaker 1: luckily I was able to do that and Ring of Honor.
Speaker 1: There was some speed bumps along the way, some setbacks,
Speaker 1: but always got kind of back in the in the
Speaker 1: into the position I wanted to and and you know,
Speaker 1: I really always had in mind from that first day
Speaker 1: that eventually I wanted to be the Ring of Honor
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Speaker 1: so many homemade belts or you know, WoT the little
Speaker 1: plastic belts and stuff like that that I was like here, here,
Speaker 1: I am in Madison Square guarded, I'm the champion, and
Speaker 1: for like one day for that to finally come true.
Speaker 1: It's still you know, I talk about it a lot
Speaker 1: in interviews, but it doesn't feel real to me at
Speaker 1: the same time, you know what I mean, like it
Speaker 1: happened and all that stuff, But at the same time,
Speaker 1: it feels like almost like I watched a movie that
Speaker 1: I happened to the end, you know. It's it's I
Speaker 1: almost remember it more through the eyes of other people
Speaker 1: than I do. Right, Yeah, totally understand. I look back,
Speaker 1: because you know, I've been kind of semi retired. I
Speaker 1: do little things here and there, but I look back
Speaker 1: and I say, I don't know how to hell I
Speaker 1: did ninety percent of the stuff that I did, and
Speaker 1: it's like it's like a dream to me. It's like
Speaker 1: that really happened, because like at this stage, I'm a
Speaker 1: fifty years old I would never in a million years
Speaker 1: do anything like that at this stage in my life.
Speaker 1: But back then, you know you're invincible. You're in your
Speaker 1: twenties and thirties and you're above the law. No one
Speaker 1: can touch you, and you know it's it's surreally fifty,
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Speaker 1: thank you. Well, now, remember when we did the boot shot,
Speaker 1: I was probably like twenty five. Yeah, I know, and
Speaker 1: that just makes me think, like the years a going
Speaker 1: by on my end too. So I'm trying to be like, no,
Speaker 1: none of us. We're still young. We're very cen to't
Speaker 1: worry about it. You're fine. I asked this question to
Speaker 1: a lot of people. I already know the answer, but
Speaker 1: I want to hear you say it. Do you prefer
Speaker 1: heel or babyface? Heel? Of course? I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: so much fun, and like I've always kind of I
Speaker 1: don't know, I always have this weird relationship with the
Speaker 1: Ring of Honor fans. I'm very much mayby faced with
Speaker 1: the female fans, but like, come again, the male fans
Speaker 1: of a hated me no matter what. So like to
Speaker 1: be able to like tell them exactly how I felt
Speaker 1: for a long time. Oh that was good stuff. So
Speaker 1: why are we not healing the women? Mat what? What is?
Speaker 1: Why are we being a baby face to the ladies. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, I would try to be a heal
Speaker 1: to everyone. It just seems like they loved it, so
Speaker 1: I you know what I mean, Like, I didn't know
Speaker 1: how to to make them hate me. And at this point,
Speaker 1: no matter what I said, it would get a female
Speaker 1: cheer and a male hard male booth. So you mean
Speaker 1: to tell me, if you pick a lady out of
Speaker 1: the front row and you call her every name of
Speaker 1: the book, and you tell her she's so ugly and this,
Speaker 1: that and the other thing, you're going to get cheered.
Speaker 1: I might actually get cheered for that from the from
Speaker 1: the male guys. Guys. If I went and buried one girl,
Speaker 1: the other girls in the crowd would be like up,
Speaker 1: that's right, because I don't know. Girls aren't loyal to
Speaker 1: one another. Let's be honest, David, that's true. We can't
Speaker 1: roll over with the women. If I buried one chick
Speaker 1: in particular, that's hilarious. Well, you know, and for merch,
Speaker 1: I'm sure the ladies like to show off the merchandise
Speaker 1: as well. I mean, I you know, I have a
Speaker 1: lot of purple merchandise, which it's a lot better on
Speaker 1: women than it does men. It seems. Well. I I
Speaker 1: am so excited for you. What's coming up for you
Speaker 1: in r oh now what are Yeah, we're finally back
Speaker 1: back at it, you know, we we've sincly are broadcasting.
Speaker 1: I feel that it's such a good job during the pandemic,
Speaker 1: just making sure they you know, dotted, all their eyes crossed,
Speaker 1: all their t's, made sure that everyone a Ring of
Speaker 1: Honor not only was financially okay because they they didn't
Speaker 1: miss a beat, which is kind of crazy. That okay,
Speaker 1: And like and and this is something that you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know. And I try to
Speaker 1: get out there just because I feel like Ring Wander
Speaker 1: doesn't get the credit for it. But there was stuff
Speaker 1: right before the pandemic hit, like a women's tournament in
Speaker 1: April and these shows in March, the Past First Present
Speaker 1: show in March where they were bringing in a lot
Speaker 1: of people that weren't aren't weren't under Ring of Honor contracts,
Speaker 1: that were just coming in for one shots and stuff,
Speaker 1: All that stuff had to be canceled because of the pandemic.
Speaker 1: But Sinclair and Ring of Honor paid every single person
Speaker 1: that was booked for any single one of those shows,
Speaker 1: not even if you weren't under contract anything, if you
Speaker 1: had been contacted by Ring of Honor and they had
Speaker 1: told you they were going to book you, they made
Speaker 1: good on their word for every single person. That is
Speaker 1: a rarity in this and and you know, I've been
Speaker 1: in the wrestling business long enough at this point is
Speaker 1: to know how rare that is. And it's just it's
Speaker 1: crazy to see it. To see it done from from
Speaker 1: Sinclair were like no questions asked, almost like it was
Speaker 1: just not even a nope. Everyone's getting taken care of.
Speaker 1: And uh now we're we're you know, we're seeing the
Speaker 1: light at the end of the tunnel. We're finally having
Speaker 1: fans back in the building July eleventh on pay per
Speaker 1: view in Bolt. More so for me personally, it's it's
Speaker 1: been this weird time where the fans are everything you
Speaker 1: know for wrestlers, and it's it's really it's been so different.
Speaker 1: As much as I've loved the products that Ring Honor
Speaker 1: has been putting out, without the fans. It's just not
Speaker 1: the same, you know what I mean. You hit that
Speaker 1: Matt and you don't hear a response, and it's like, oh, oh,
Speaker 1: do I even want to get up at this point,
Speaker 1: especially as a heel, You're drawing your energy from the crowd,
Speaker 1: you know. So that was the other thing. So during
Speaker 1: the pandemic, I've had two surgeries, came back from injury,
Speaker 1: reunited with my tag partner who I haven't wrestled with
Speaker 1: in five years, turned Babyface now the first time, and
Speaker 1: for all of this, I'll be in front of a
Speaker 1: crowd for the first time. So it's like, my god,
Speaker 1: there's been you know, there's been some I don't want
Speaker 1: to say missed opportunities because like they were, they were
Speaker 1: still came off really well. But I just could only
Speaker 1: imagine what my return would have been. That would have
Speaker 1: been like in front of a crowd, what me and
Speaker 1: Mike Bennett reuniting after all this time would have been crowd.
Speaker 1: And so like now it kind of feels like we're
Speaker 1: gonna get in front of that crowd. I want to
Speaker 1: show you everything that we've been doing this this last
Speaker 1: couple of months. So I'm just so excited to kind
Speaker 1: of be back to normal life. And it seems like
Speaker 1: July July eleventh, you know that all starts, and then
Speaker 1: we'll be back in the ECW Arena for two nights
Speaker 1: in August as well, h twentieth and twenty first. And
Speaker 1: you know that Philly crowd if you've missed the if
Speaker 1: you've missed fans, that Philly crowd will really give you
Speaker 1: a shot of life in the arm one way or
Speaker 1: the other. You know, the usual, the biggest fans of
Speaker 1: that team. And so I'm sure I'll get a lot
Speaker 1: of booze, but at the same time, it will be
Speaker 1: like just hearing anything at this point exactly exactly, Well,
Speaker 1: it sounds like you have a lot on your plate,
Speaker 1: and I'm very very excited for you again everybody. June eleventh,
Speaker 1: r oh, pay per view, I'm sorry, July eleventh, Yeah,
Speaker 1: today's what the twenty four July eleven? What are you?
Speaker 1: What are you streaming on for this pay per view?
Speaker 1: What's we're on regular pay per view on all your
Speaker 1: cable providers. You know, the smartest thing to do is
Speaker 1: to sign up for Honor Club. It's only ten bucks
Speaker 1: a month. You get the pay reviews, you get the TV,
Speaker 1: you get all the house shows and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So can they got r o H dot com and
Speaker 1: the Honor Club. Yep, r o H Wrestling dot com.
Speaker 1: You can find the Honor Club and that way you
Speaker 1: don't you don't miss the shit. And it's a little
Speaker 1: tough for us because we don't have normal house shows.
Speaker 1: Every single thing goes up on the Honor Club, so
Speaker 1: you can't take a night off. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: it keeps us going one hundred and tent percent. All right,
Speaker 1: well that's exciting. July eleventh, all right, we're gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna tune into that. And where can people find you
Speaker 1: if they want to know more about Matt Tavan? So
Speaker 1: if you can spell Tavan, which it seems very easy,
Speaker 1: but I've had people screw this up so much over
Speaker 1: the years. It's not Tavin, it's Tavin. That's Tavern, not Tavern,
Speaker 1: not t Aven. I don't know. People screw it up anyway,
Speaker 1: right the first time, Ron's a raven and maven and
Speaker 1: you know all that good, right, So if you can
Speaker 1: spell Tavan a V and I'm on all social media
Speaker 1: platforms Matt Tavan on Facebook, on Twitter, be Matt Tavan
Speaker 1: on Instagram because some Melvin tried to take Matt taban
Speaker 1: from me and then hold it hostage. I said, screw
Speaker 1: that up. Be Matt Tavan, buddy. So I hope you're
Speaker 1: good with that handle. You know, Matt Taven up for
Speaker 1: wrestling tease. Like I said, if you can spell Tavan,
Speaker 1: you can. You can find me all right doing simple
Speaker 1: Google search, and he's a pop up. Well, hopefully we are.
Speaker 1: We'll be back in Disney the end of January February,
Speaker 1: so maybe I'll please we could go on a safe
Speaker 1: ride together. I don't do those big roller coaches scary ones. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: we'll go. Maybe we'll go Winnie the Poo or something
Speaker 1: that'll be. But it was a delight to finally sit
Speaker 1: down and chat with you. I wish you nothing but success.
Speaker 1: And if you ever could find the old picture, we'll
Speaker 1: take a new one and we can do a side
Speaker 1: by side and it'll be hilarious and we'll show your
Speaker 1: mother and she'll love it. My mom would be She'll
Speaker 1: be like, something's just never changed with you. Huh. But
Speaker 1: I literally have to I told myself I have to
Speaker 1: find this picture just to recreate it. So I'm going
Speaker 1: to hold you to that. I'm going to find it.
Speaker 1: We're going to redo this. My husband is the coolest
Speaker 1: man on the planet. He's just like he doesn't care
Speaker 1: so well. I mean, you're literally like there's a table
Speaker 1: between us, so there's plenty of social distance between us,
Speaker 1: so we can It's more of like I'm leaning like
Speaker 1: a little kid and you're leaning forward, and it's just
Speaker 1: magic happened. I love it. I can't wait to do
Speaker 1: it perfect well, Honey's pleasure, Thank good luck with everything.
Speaker 1: Can't wait to see you on the July eleventh. And
Speaker 1: we'll keep in touch for sure. Yes, thank you guys
Speaker 1: so much for having me. Hopefully we'll talk soon and
Speaker 1: hopefully i'll see him Disney sounds good. Special look to
Speaker 1: you you met, take care. I love that. And there
Speaker 1: he goes, here's where the missed opportunity was. That's where
Speaker 1: he should have said, and that's the night I wanted
Speaker 1: to become a pro wrestler. The blood, the picture, the
Speaker 1: whole perfect recipe to become a wrestler. Yeah, I can't
Speaker 1: remember if he said where the signing was, but it
Speaker 1: was probably at a mall. We probably had sunglasses on
Speaker 1: and indoors because we were obnoxious like that back then,
Speaker 1: which made no sense. We've been seeing a lot of
Speaker 1: those pictures popping up too. I love that. I know,
Speaker 1: it's so funny. I saw another one recently. Somebody put
Speaker 1: one up and I was just like, there's another one.
Speaker 1: Where where are they? I was in a video store
Speaker 1: there he just tapes behind me. That was awesome personally,
Speaker 1: I love that one the most. Okay, very good. But yeah,
Speaker 1: he seems like a hell of a nice guy. So yeah,
Speaker 1: hopefully you know, bigger and better things for him, and
Speaker 1: it sounds like he's doing a great job. You want
Speaker 1: a road trip to Baltimore in July? Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe you never know. I'll take the picture. You guys create,
Speaker 1: create the picture. Yeah, if I wish there was something
Speaker 1: else to do down there for me and you, it
Speaker 1: would be cool. That would be cool, A little short notice,
Speaker 1: all kind of only what it was, I know, not
Speaker 1: even you never know a couple of weeks away, look
Speaker 1: underneath the something here. You never know in this business,
Speaker 1: never know, you never know. Good for him, good for him,
Speaker 1: very cool, very cool. All right, you want to talk
Speaker 1: about Patreon, Sure, absolutely do with my brand new read
Speaker 1: lettering here. It's really punching me in the face, just
Speaker 1: out there. It's really cool. It's so simple. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was so easy. I pulled up a quiz and it's
Speaker 1: my favorite. It's from BuzzFeed. They're the best. You know,
Speaker 1: BuzzFeed There always were always at the end of it,
Speaker 1: we're like, who who thought of this? So stupid? I
Speaker 1: can sum up your whole personality in five words with
Speaker 1: only fifteen random Now I happen to think that I
Speaker 1: have a great personality. I'm gonna put myself over and
Speaker 1: I'm very personable. So let's see if BuzzFeed agrees with me.
Speaker 1: The questions are a little you know, they can be
Speaker 1: they could be weird, and these like easy questions and
Speaker 1: like odd ones like I don't know how to answer that,
Speaker 1: So okay, if it gets you get your thinking, okay,
Speaker 1: this one I go either way. Literally, I typed wrestling
Speaker 1: memes into Google and seventeen million things came up, and
Speaker 1: we're going to scroll through the memes and read them.
Speaker 1: And I was laughing by like, yeah, yeah, I'll put up.
Speaker 1: I was laughing like five in because they're so stupid.
Speaker 1: But some of them are so damn funny. I was
Speaker 1: like this, this could be perfect. But it's a wrestling meme,
Speaker 1: so you might even pop up in one for all
Speaker 1: I will I don't know, exciting and then for the
Speaker 1: rest and I watch along went back to the fan
Speaker 1: Camwell had to continue what we did from the previous
Speaker 1: week because I liked it so much. How about this? Okay,
Speaker 1: Chris Candido with Shane Douglas and Francine versus Lance Storm
Speaker 1: from Wilkespare, Pennsylvania eight seven ninety eight. Don't remember it's
Speaker 1: see that's interesting because the building is so unique looking.
Speaker 1: I would love to see if it toggles your memory
Speaker 1: just based off of how the building looks. It's a
Speaker 1: very weird shape building. I think let me say the
Speaker 1: name of it was, and I thought I had it.
Speaker 1: I think it's some it's like the you know, the
Speaker 1: National Guard Armory or the Wilkes Spare, Pennsylvania Armory, something
Speaker 1: like that. But the building is so uniquely designed. I
Speaker 1: wonder if it's going to toggle anything for you. I'm
Speaker 1: wondering if if Shane is Shane injured, it can't work. Okay,
Speaker 1: so that's going to be the reason why. Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: look at it. And we'll see because it's not ringing
Speaker 1: a bell. The only thing that thinks about it is
Speaker 1: when you guys cut the promo at the beginning, you
Speaker 1: can't hear a word because the acoustics of the building
Speaker 1: with the microphone and the PA it just sounds like
Speaker 1: shangleing and you're just in there and he's saying this stuff.
Speaker 1: We don't know what the heck he's talking about, and
Speaker 1: you're just like, yeah, well we can fast forward about
Speaker 1: if you blink or that. That's when I can look
Speaker 1: around the room and see, well, we get the whole,
Speaker 1: we get the whole entrance. That's why I like it.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, perfect, So looking forward to another thing I
Speaker 1: don't remember, so fun And that's it. That's the way
Speaker 1: I like it. So if you want to follow me,
Speaker 1: it's at Chad E and B on Instagram and Twitter.
Speaker 1: My website is ibexclusives dot com. I've got a lot
Speaker 1: of signings going on on ibexclusives dot com. And I
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Speaker 1: Do you know I was actually asked to do a
Speaker 1: perfectly rated podcast where you give them list of people
Speaker 1: who may be deemed under or over. I won't say
Speaker 1: the words connected anymore, and I kind of like debunk
Speaker 1: why they are? They are not interesting? Are we doing it?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Maybe a one off. I don't. I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't commit to anything else right now. I've got
Speaker 1: too much's going on. You have like eighty seven podcast
Speaker 1: you need to like you can't go a day without
Speaker 1: hearing my dumb voice. There was actually the other night
Speaker 1: I did our our Buddy rad Rob who was on
Speaker 1: our Patreon. I did a show for him. We watched
Speaker 1: the Let's Go Mets music video of the mid nineteen eighties.
Speaker 1: The Mets did a like a We're the greatest team
Speaker 1: in the world video, like this super Bowl shuffle exactly.
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite things in my childhood. After
Speaker 1: I was done talking, my wife was talking to my
Speaker 1: mom and my mom goes, I could hear you from downstairs.
Speaker 1: I was so loud. I go, you know what I go.
Speaker 1: I'm tired of hearing my own voice at this point,
Speaker 1: so I'll keep it down next time. Were you drunk
Speaker 1: is the question? I was not. I was drinking, but
Speaker 1: I was not drunk. Not I can't, I can't listen.
Speaker 1: We've since talked and he I guess he didn't catch on,
Speaker 1: but I was. I was fearing my my relationship with
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm supposed to tell you this
Speaker 1: or not, but it really encourage them. Tell them it
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Speaker 1: they take fifty five. That's an extra thirty percent in
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Speaker 1: All you have to do is click the link in
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